EAC Minutes 10/03/2007 R
October 3, 2007
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
Naples, Florida, October 3,2007
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Environmental
Advisory Council in and for the County of Collier, having conducted
business herein, met on this date at 9:00 AM in REGULAR SESSION in
Building "F" of the Government Complex, Naples, Florida, with the
following members present:
CHAIRMAN: William Hughes
Lee Horn
Dr. Judith Hushon
Roger Jacobsen
David Bishof
Nick Penniman
Michael V. Sorrell
Dr. Llew Williams
Mark Fenton
STAFF PRESENT:
Jeff Wright, Assistant County Attorney
Mac Hatcher, Environmental Specialist
Stan Chrzanowski, PE, Planning Review
Catherine Fabacher, Principal Planner
Summer Araque, Senior Environmentalist
Stephen Lenberger, Senior Environmental Specialist
Barbara Burgeson, Principal Environmental Specialist
Joe Thompson, Comprehensive Planner
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ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
AGENDA
Wednesday, October 3, 2007
9:00 A.M.
Commission Boardroom
W. Harmon Turner Building (Building "F") - Third Floor
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Approval of Agenda
IV. Approval of September 5, 2007 meeting minutes
V. Upcoming Environmental Advisory Council Absences
VI. Land Use Petitions
A. Rehearing of Planned Unit Development PUDZ-2005-AR-8416
"Pezzetino Di Cielo RPUD"
Section 12, Township 48 South, Range 25 East
B. Planned Unit Development PUDZ-2006-AR-10171
"Brandon RPUD"
Section 13, Township 48 South, Range 25 East
VII. New Business
A. Project Greenscape - Alberto Chavez
B. Belle Meade Stormwater Management Master Plan - Clarence Tears
(rescheduled from September 5, 2007 meeting)
C. Watershed Management Plan considerations for setting priorities - Mac Hatcher
Environmental Services
D. Cycle 2, 2007 LDC amendments - Stephen Lenberger
VIII. Old Business
A. Update members on projects
B. Alternate Members roll, attendance, and definition by LDC
C. Carryover discussion SFWMD coordination
D. Mission Statement
E. Reminder - December 5,2007 meeting will be at CDES Room 609/610
IX Subcommittee Reports
X. Council Member Comments
XI. Public Comments
XII. Adjournment
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Council Members: Please notify Summer Araaue. Environmental Services Senior Environmental Specialist
no later than 5:00 p.m. on Tuesdav. SeDtember 25. 2007 if vou cannot attend this meetina or if vou have
a connict and will abstain from votina on a petition (530-6290).
General Public: Any person who decides to appeal a decision of this Board will need a record of the
proceedings pertaining thereto; and therefore may need to ensure that a verbatim record of proceedings is
made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.
October 3, 2007
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chairman William Hughes at 9:01 A.M.
II. Roll Call
A quorum was established.
III. Approval of Agenda
Mr. Penniman moved to approve the agenda subject to granting a continuance
to the applicant of Item #VIB. Second by Mr. Jacobsen. Carried unanimously
9-0.
IV. Approval of September 5, 2007 minutes
On page 1, Mr. Penniman was excused
On page 12, line #1, she also should not be bolded
On page 12, line # 1, to read "South Florida Water Management District"
On page 12, line #4, SWFWMD to read SFWMD
On Page 8, paragraph 7 - motion to read the "...definitions in the proposed LDC
amendments are not yet clearly stated and the EAC.......
Vote recorded on page 8 will reflect change as Carried 5-1. Dr. Hushon voted
no.
***Note: After review of tape, the September 5th minutes are correct
with wording of motion on Page 8. Motion can be amended to state changes.
Dr. HusllOn moved to approve the minutes as corrected. Second by Mr.
Jacobsen. Carried unanimously 9-0.
Dr. Hushon noted that her 'no' vote in the above mentioned motion on
September 5th, 2007 was based on "the opposition of allowing the discharging
of storm water that is potentially untreated into preserve areas during major
storm events. "
V. Upcoming Environmental Advisory Council Absences
Dr. Hushon will be unable to attend the November 2007 meeting therefore
excused.
Mark Fenton introduced himself as a new member of the Council.
VI. Land Use Petitions
A. Rehearing of Planned Development PUDZ-2005-AR-8416 "Pezzetino Di
Ciello RPUD"
Section 12, Township 48 South, Range 25 East
Mark Minor ofQ. Grady Minor and Assoc. represented the applicant.
Presenters were sworn in.
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Mr. Minor summarized the detailed design of the water management system. He
noted the following:
· The project is adjacent to Mediterra and a base elevation of 12.70 feet
was established for the wetland preserve via the Mediterra data and the
survey data performed on the site.
. The natural ground area in the preserve is 11.70 feet
. All stormwater runoff is collected and conveyed to the retention lakes
via catch basins or culverts
· The water will drain from the retention lakes to a bubble up catch basin at
an elevation of 11.70 feet into a spreader swale before entering the
preserve
· A flap gate device will be installed in the catch basin to ensure water
from the preserve will not backflow into the lake
· The ultimate discharge of the project is along Livingston Road
Dr. Hushon asked if the on-site storm water retention design was based on the
requirements of section 2.1A of the Conservation Coastal Management Element
recently adopted which requires the retention ponds (lakes) to be sized to the 150
percent volume requirement of section 5.2lA.
Mr. Minor responded that the system has been sized to the 150 percent volume
requirement.
Mr. Bishof asked what the overflow elevation of the retention lake is.
Mr. Minor noted the following design elevations:
Top of berm (overflow) = 15.70'
Natural Ground at Preserve = 11.7'
Control Elevation (Lake/Preserve) = 12.70'
Bubble catch basin discharge = 11.70'
Mr. Bishofnoted the elevation of the baffle in the pond is below the control
elevation of the pond and the water elevation in the detention pond would begin
discharging at an elevation of 11.7' +/- (approximately I foot below control
elevation) as opposed to the control elevation of 12.7'
Mr. Minor noted that the untreated stormwater flows into the opposite end of the
pond at elevation 12.7' allowing the stormwater to mix and treat with the existing
water in the pond before it is discharged into the preserve area.
Mr. Bishof noted a discharge elcvation of 12.7' would allow for more thorough
treatment of storm water before discharging it into the preserve area because the
ultimate discharge orifice out ofthe preserve area adjacent to Livingston Road is
12.7' and the reserve will serve as a littoral area for the retention pond.
Mr. Minor stated that there is a location to provide a "rain garden" along the area
adjacent to the north side of the preserve area that would provide treatment via a
spreader swale before the stormwater ultimately enters the preserve area
providing additional water treatment.
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Mr. Chrzanowski noted that the calculations allow for 8-10 day retention of
water in the lakes; therefore the stormwater has received treatment before entering
the preserve area.
Mr. Williams noted that the ultimate discharge point into the preserve is a
maximum distance from the entrance point of the stormwater system maximizing
treatment capabilities of the pond.
Mr. Hughes and Dr. Hushon noted utilizing the "rain garden" area in the design
is a favorable idea.
Mr. Hughes noted that it is important to conduct monitoring of preserves
following completions of developments to ensure water quality is in accordance
with issued permits.
Public Speakers:
Nicole Ryan, Conservancy of Southwest Florida, stated the 150 percent
requirement referred to by Dr. Hushon requires the 150 percent volume be treated
within the storm water treatment system which is not part ofthe preserve area.
The South Florida Water Management District has allowed the additional 50
percent volume to be treated within the preserve; however Collier County is more
restrictive. Also it should be clearly demonstrated that the volume of water
entering the preserve is not creating a negative impact on the preserve.
Mr. Bishof moved to approve the petition with the following condition:
The storm water not be discharged into tile preserve area until it has been fully
treated in accordance with Collier County and Water Management District
standards.
Second by Dr. Hushon. Motion carried unanimously 9-0.
Mr. Chrzanowski noted that the 150 percent volumetric requirement is causing
some delays for developers as it is required by the permitting authorities in Collier
County, not the South Florida Water Management District and the District is not
enforcing the 150 percent requirement for applications submitted to them that are
located in the Collier County jurisdiction. If applicants obtain permits from the
District before submitting to Collier County they are required to return to the
District for re-permitting.
Dr. Hushon noted that a consistent policy would be favorable for all parties.
Clarence Tears of South Florida Water Management District addressed the
Council and stated that the Environmental Advisory Council should notify the
applicants to submit an application to the District with the 150 percent volumetric
requirement. He will discuss this with District staff members and direct them to
be supportive of the County. He now has an office in Collier County.
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B. Planned Unit Development PUDZ-2006-AR-IOl71 "Brandon PUD"
Section 13, Township 48 South, Range 25 East
The application was continued.
VII. New Business
Mr. Penniman moved to nominate Mr. Hughesfor Council Chairman and Dr.
Hushon for Vice Chairman for a term of 1 year. Second by Mr. Horn. Carried
unanimously 9-0.
A. Project Greenscape- Alberto Chavez
Alberto Chavez of Project Greenscape and Tabitha Stadler, Rookery Bay
National Estuarine Research Reserve Coastal Training Program provided a
handout entitled "Project Greenscape, Update October 2007". Project
Greenscape trains and certifies landscaping professionals in proper
landscaping practices. The core curriculum incorporates "The Green
Industries Best Management Practices (BMP) for Protection of Water
Resources in Florida", developed by the University of Florida And Green
Industries in 2002.
Dr. Hushon noted they were requested to appear in front of the Council as the
County has been considering a "fertilizing" ordinance.
Mr. Hnghes noted that a future ordinance is important for protecting the
environmental quality of the resources of Collier County.
Ms. Stadler noted that they have conducted vast amount of research statewide
on this topic and are available as a resource for the County.
Mr. Chavez presented a power point presentation regarding the "Best
Management Practices" (BMP) certifications. Included in the presentation the
following points were highlighted:
. They fully endorse the BMP certifications and provide training and
certifications to Landscape professionals in proper landscaping practices
as well as continuing education
· There are approximately 1200 companies conducting this work in Collier
County
. Educating homeowners is equally as important
. It supports the "Florida Yards and Neighborhood Program"
. The training has been well received by professionals
. BMP's started as voluntary practices but are now incorporated into
ordinances and regulations in other areas
· Rookery Bay National Estuarine and Research Reserve in Collier County
is one of only 3 areas in the State providing BMP certifications
. The training is 6 hours in length
. Upon certification a decal is displayed on the vehicle as a future
enforcement tool
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. This program will help improve water quality standards
Mr. Hughes volunteered his services in preparing a 2-hour training video for the
certification program.
Mr. Sorrell noted that education and certification requirements are important, but
the key step is enforcement of licensed/unlicensed contractors. Enforcement of
this profession within the County has been limited.
Mr. Jacobsen noted that the City of Naples is working hard to enforce their
licensing requirements.
Mr. Hughes moved to notifY Occupational Licensing of the issues raised
regarding enforcement. Without a second, the motion was not considered.
The Council directed Mr. Hughes to draft a letter and send it to Occupational
Licensing regarding the enforcement issues.
A discussion occurred on Collier County adopting regulations that would regulate
the sale and use of certain pesticides and fertilizers.
Mr. Penniman noted new statewide water classifications that are proposed would
diminish the quality of water in the areas of ditches, canals and catch basins and
this program is important on the local level as it is aimed at these discharges.
Break 11 :00 A.M.
Reconvened 11: 17 A.M.
B. Belle Meade Stormwater Management Master Plan - Clarence Tears
Clarence Tears, Director of Big Cypress Basin for the South Florida Water
Management District appeared before the Council to provide a presentation on
the Belle Meade Storm water Management Master Plan. On a related note, he
requested that if the Environmental Advisory Council has questions or
concerns on a particular project, draft a letter to the District requesting a
written response. Individual members may contact the District if they have a
question.
The Council viewed a power point presentation on the Master Plan. The
following points were noted:
. It is important to identify, maintain and restore the natural flow ways to
help improve water quality.
. A goal is to reduce the flows to Naples Bay by restoring and re-hydrate
areas. Historically, the goal was to drain the land.
. The deep water aquifers of Collier County are not directly affected by
surface water
. The District's provides information to the local utilities so they may
determine how they will meet future demands over a 20 year projection.
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· Currently, Collier County can meet the future demands based on the 20
year plan.
. Master Plans are reviewed on a regular basis comparing projections to
actual data with safeguards in place to reduce demands on aquifers.
. Florida Statutes require the District to meet future water supply demands
and provide tools to the local utilities
. An example of historic restorations is the Picayune Strand Restoration
Project.
. These restorations aid in increasing groundwater levels, preventing
wildfires and promote the return of native vegetation (as opposed to
exotics)
· It is important for developers to contact the District in the initial stages of
planning so District concerns can be incorporated into the design
process.
C. Watershed Management Master Plan Considerations for setting
Priorities - Mac Hatcher, Environmental Services
Mac Hatcher provided a handout entitled "Watershed Management Plans
Prioritization for Discussion". The Council viewed a power point
presentation on the handout. Contact staff for a copy of this handout. The
presentation also contained draft maps indicating impaired water areas for
dissolved oxygen, fecal coliform, iron, copper and other metals. A future
release of the maps will identify the cause of the impairments. Another
analysis will be prepared for the next meeting to provide prioritizations to
forward to the Board of County Commissioners.
Break 12:36P.M
Reconvene 1: 15 P.M.
Mr. Fenton, Mr. Horn and Mr. Bishof did not return
D. Cycle 2, 2007 LDC Amendments - Stephen Lenberger
Catherine Fabacher, LDC coordinator introduced the proposed amendment
requests and provided copies to the Council.
1. Section: 1.08.02,2.03.07 D.4.c; Page 2:36
Presented by Mr. Thompson who noted current references do not
accurately describe administrative process oflanguage to align procedural
terminology and the change will add definition for 'Redemption' and
changing various segments oflanguage to align with procedural
terminology
Mr. Penniman moved to recommend the amendment. Second by Dr.
Hushon. Carried unanimously 6-0.
Mr. Bishofreturned at 1:31 PM
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2. Section: 10.02.04 Submittal Requirement for Plats; Page 10:62.1
Presented by Mr. Chrzanowski who noted setback information shown on
the final plats will assist designers as well as County staff in determining
appropriate setbacks and the change would add requirements for setback
information to be shown on final plats.
Dr. Hushon moved to recommend the amendment. Second by Mr.
Penniman. Carried unanimously 7-0.
3. Section: 1.08.02,3.05,10.02.06; Pages: 1:35,1:36,3:28,10:89,10:91
Presented by Mr. Lenberger who noted the change is to address the
concerns of the Environmental Advisory Council and Collier County
Planning Commission, and to prevent the unauthorized removal of
vegetation containing nests or cavity trees or protected or listed animal
species.
Mr. Lenberger reviewed the proposed amendment which sets standards
for removal of trees with listed species nest or cavities. It was noted that
on Page #7, item #4 was left blank and this section needs the "exceptions"
added.
Mr. Bishof noted that these regulations are already in place at the State
and Federal level and the problem lies in errors of administration of the
regulations.
Ms. Burgeson noted that the County will ensure not only other Agencies
approvals have been obtained, but also a Collier County approval
providing for enforcement at the local level. When they contact various
outside Agencies for input on the issue, they receive a variety of responses
regarding interpretation, enforcement and permit requirements for
vegetation removal. The Environmental Advisory Council and Planning
Commission directed staff to propose this amendment.
Public Speakers
Nicole Ryan stated that the problem is the administration at the State and
Federal level. The amendment will give the County authority of enforcing
its own regulation and recommends approval.
Mr. Jacobsen moved to recommend the amendment. Second by Mr.
Penniman. Carried unanimously 7-0.
4. Section: 3.05.07; Page 3:28.1, 3:28.2
Presented by Stephen Lenberger who noted it is required as part ofthe
2007 EAR-based amendments to the CCME of the GMP to change priority
for preserved native vegetation as required by the 2007 EAR-based
amendments to the Conservation and Coastal Management Element
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(CCME) of the GMP. The text change is in accordance with
Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Bishofnoted the score of "at least 7.0" in Section A.3.c is to be
accepted by the South Florida Water Management District and they are
prohibited from accepting scores, and the County will not receive an
official document from the District.
Ms. Burgeson, stated that the scores are submitted by the County to State
for "acceptance" by the State staff and that they are in agreement that the
area is a high quality wetland. They are not submitted for "approval".
Dr. Hushon moved to recommend the amendment with the following
change:
Page #2 3.05.07.A.3 read Native Vegetation is to be retained......
Second by Mr. Jacobsen. Motion carried 6-1. Mr. Bishofvoted no.
5. Section: 5.05.02
Presented by Mr. Lenberger who noted the change is to exclude the length
of shoreline within conservation easements when calculating the maximum
number of boat slips in accordance with Manatee Protection Plan. It was
directed by the Board of County Commissioners omitting the lands in
conservation easement in calculating the number of wet slips.
Public Speakers
Nicole Ryan of the Conservancy of Southwest Florida - stated it is a
concern that previous applications through the South Florida Water
Management District relocated the conservations offshore and then utilized
the strip between the easement and the preserve for boat slip density
calculations ("stripping").
She recommended to add language that would include "shorelines" if other
Agencies allow this practice.
Ms. Burgeson noted it would be helpful to develop some language to
preclude this issue.
Mr. Bishof noted that it is a concern that this amendment may preclude an
applicant's willingness to provide a voluntary conservation easement if
they are not allowed to utilize the area for boat slip calculations.
Ms. Burgeson noted whatever portion is identified as a preserve through
the permit process is required to have conservation easements for shoreline
protection and the directive is to exclude all shorelines placed under these
conservation easements.
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Mr. Penniman moved to recommend the amendment subject to the
following:
The amendment include a stipulation added by staffwith clear an
unambiguous language that does not permit the "stripping" of
conservation easement lands for the purpose calculating boat slip
densities.
Second by Mr. Williams. Carried unanimously 7-0.
6. Section 3.07:6,05.01;10.02.02A.4.f; IO.02.03A.3b.vi
Presented by Mr. Chrzanowski who noted the most important change in
3.07.02 Interim Watershed Regulations Section A. that requires a project
shall meet 150% of the water quality volumetric requirements ofthe South
Florida Water Management District.
Nicole Ryan of Conservancy of Southwest Florida requested that the
amendment contain language that 150 percent volumetric requirement be
treated within the designed stormwater system and not allow utilizing the
preserve areas for storm water treatment.
Mr. Penniman left at 2:45 P.M.
Mr. Jacobsen moved to recommend the amendment subject to the
following:
That the 150% storm water volumetric requirement prohibits utilizing
preserve areas for the calculations and water quality treatment.
Secol1d by Mr. Bishof. Motion carried ul1animously 6-0.
Mr. Hughes requested and the Council agreed that the staffreview lighting
standards in the Land Development Codes.
Ms. Burgeson stated the staff previously worked on LDC lighting
amendments and after various meetings (police, public, transportation,
recreation depts., etc.) developed the current standards.
She recommended the Council draft a letter to the Board of County
Commissioners requesting staff to review lighting standards.
VIII. Old Business
A. Update members on projects
The November 7 meeting will be in Room 216 of the Health Building.
B. Alternate Members roll, attendance, and definition by LDC
Mr. Wright, Assistant County Attorney provided a handout regarding
alternates and noted the following:
. Alternates will receive materials for each meeting
. Meeting attendance is not required by an alternate unless he is notified by
staff that another Council member cannot attend
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. Alternates may only discuss matters and vote if they are activated for the
meeting
. Alternate members can attend and participate as "public"
. The Chairman will determine and indicate if a member is excused or
absent
. The Council is composed of 9 regular members with 5 required for a
quorum and 5 votes necessary for official action
C. Carryover discussion SFWMD coordination
Addressed under Item VIII, B. Notify staff if you are interested in
attending any SFWMD meetings.
D. Mission Statement
To be placed on the next agenda
E. Reminder - December 5, 2007 meeting will be at CDES Room 609/610
IX. Subcommittee Reports
Dr. Hushon requested the members attend the October 4, 2007, the October 11,
2007 and the October 31, 2007 LDC Subcommittee meetings.
X. Council Member Comments
None
XI. Public Comments
None
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by the order ofthe Chair at 3:31 PM.
COLLIER COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL
ADVISORY COUNCIL
Chairman William Hughes
These Minutes were approved by the Board/Chairman on
as presented , or as amended
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