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MINUTES OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
Naples, Florida, February 9, 2023
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, the Collier County Coastal Advisory Committee, in and
for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 1:00
P.M. in REGULAR SESSION at Administrative Building "F," 3rd Floor, Collier
County Government Complex, Naples, Florida, with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN: David Trecker
VICE CHAIRMAN:
Joseph Burke
Steve Koziar (excused)
Thomas McCann
Jim Burke
Robert Raymond
Robert Roth
Raymond Christman
Erik Brechnitz (excused)
ALSO PRESENT: Andy Miller, Coastal Zone Manager
Colleen Greene, Assistant County Attorney
Farron Turner, Management Analyst I, Coastal Zone
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Anyone in need of the verbatim record of the meeting may request a copy of the video recording from the
Communications, Government & Public Affairs Division or view it online.
I. Call to Order
Chairman Trecker called the meeting to order at 1 p.m.
II. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
III. Roll Call
Roll call was taken and a quorum of seven was established.
IV. Changes and Approval of Agenda
Mr. McCann moved to approve the agenda. Second by Mr. Raymond. The motion passed unanimously,
7-0.
V. Public Comments
[Comments not related to the Army Corps of Engineers or Emergency Berm Project]
Shelley McKiernan, Mermaid of Naples, told the CAC:
• Water is important to her.
• She learned about our water and that we have major issues.
• We also have an issue with sand, but there's not enough information to determine if it's a major
problem.
• Bacteria, mold and fungi exist in sand, although it's killed in water. She'd like to believe the sun kills
it in sand.
• People get nail fungus and immune -compromised people are being warned by doctors to avoid
beaches.
• She's requesting that the county look into studies about sand, especially due to the hurricane.
• People are having reactions to sand.
• The sand should be tested.
Chairman Trecker told her that part of the CAC's responsibility is to look at water, which is related to what
she's discussing. We're resurrecting the CAC Water -Quality Subcommittee and he recommends that she meet
with them and the Pollution Control Department to ask for a response.
Ashley Jenkins, an environmental advocate, told the CAC:
• The Gulf of Mexico has been affected by the hurricane and has taken on debris and organic matter.
• She and Shelley have been on a hunt for clean water. They spoke with the City of Naples and tried
to speak with Rhonda Watkins in county Pollution Control.
• Turning sand over isn't alleviating the problem.
• There were 20 deaths in the country for vulnificus, with one in Collier County.
• We are renowned for tourism and visitors come for our beaches.
• This sand problem has been swept under the rug.
• Councilwoman Petrunoff told her that hydrogen peroxide is one of the simplest, most natural
ingredients and can do wonders to disinfect pathogens such as fungus and bacteria.
• Ecolab, which is in Cape Coral, has biological materials that can be put on sand for an economical
rate. It's already used in city lakes.
• Beaches are our cash cow, but she won't walk barefoot on them since the hurricane.
• She's seen people's feet contaminated with flesh -eating bacteria after being on beaches. That's one of
the many pathogens afflicting people.
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• Residents contacted her this weekend to ask what she's doing for local advocacy in the county.
• The beaches smell horrendous, a culmination of red tide and debris washing up on beaches and killing
animals.
• Category 3 waste hit our area from Everglades City due to its impaired water treatment plant.
• Dilution is not the solution. This problem won't go away.
Chairman Trecker said he'd give her the same advice as the speaker before her, to meet with the CAC
Water -Quality Subcommittee and Pollution Control staff.
Mr. Roth noted that Dr. Dabees is in the audience and asked what they could do. He agreed wastewater
contains many pathogens and many are long dead or can't live in salt water. What can we do other than testing
sand?
Vice Chairman Burke said there's a sieve criteria for particle size.
Mr. Roth asked if they could test the material for quality. In New York, when it's moved, it must be sampled.
Chairman Trecker noted that they have a time certain item coming up in a few minutes and asked if they
could continue the discussion after that.
VI. Approval of CAC Minutes
January 12, 2023
Mr. Burke noted that Farron's last name should be changed to her married name, Turner, in future
minutes.
Mr. Burke moved to approve the minutes of the January 12, 2023, meeting. Second by Mr. McCann. The
motion passed unanimously, 7-0.
VIL Staff Reports
[Heard following Old Business]
Extended Revenue Report
"FY22 TDT Collections Revenue Report" dated December 31, 2022.
Mr. Miller detailed a PowerPoint presentation and reported that:
• There's an actual to budget variance of almost 57% in the positive, which is good.
• The trajectory is down slightly, but still well above our budgeted numbers.
• For the last couple of years, it's been that way and we're hoping for a continuation.
Chairman Trecker noted that there was some slow down, but it's still a good, positive variance.
Mr. Raymond asked what category the Paradise Coast Sports Complex falls under. Does it fall under
TDC capital?
Mr. Miller said he wasn't certain and would find that answer.
Vice Chairman Burke said he was shocked that revenues were only slightly down since Hurricane Ian.
Mr. Roth noted that the blue line showed the budget and the red line shows actual. Can we put another
line for last year to show a comparison to last year? He noticed they were up in November and down in
December compared with last year.
Mr. Miller said he'd ask the team that puts together that report. At the least, they could give the CAC that
information superimposed on this report.
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VIII. New Business
1. Executive Summary - CSA Ocean Sciences, Inc. - 2023 Hardbottom Monitoring
Proposal
Mr. Miller reported that:
• This is an annual item that we bring to the CAC about monitoring of the hardbottom to gauge the
impacts that our beach renourishment projects have on the near -shore hardbottom.
• The amount, $378,000 plus, is substantially different from what we had last year by about $100,000.
• The extra effort we're talking about doing this year is a side -scan sonar effort. Our previous side -
scan sonar was in 2009 and it's ever -changing because of the shifting sands offshore. We want to get
a fresh data set so we can enhance our monitoring.
Chairman Trecker noted that would be particularly important this year because of the sand redistribution
from the hurricane.
Mr. Miller agreed and outlined the recommendation.
Recommendation to approve a proposal for CSA Ocean Sciences Inc. to continue the required post -
construction hardbottom monitoring for the Collier County Beach Nourishment Project in summer
2023 for time and materials not to exceed $378,594.35 from the Tourist Development Tax funds
under Contract No. 17-7188 and make a finding that this item promotes tourism (Fund 195, Project
No. 90033).
Mr. McCann moved to recommend approving a proposal for CSA Ocean Sciences Inc. to continue the
required post -construction hardbottom monitoring for the Collier County Beach Nourishment Project
in summer 2023 for time and materials not to exceed $378,594.35 in Tourist Development Tax funds
under Contract No. 17-7188 and made a finding that this item promotes tourism (Fund 195, Project
No. 90033). Second by Mr. Raymond. The motion passed unanimously, 7-0.
2. Executive Summary - Rick Croft Enterprises Inc. dba Texas Trailers - 2 Mobile Cargo Units
Quote
Mr. Miller reported that:
• This is related to Hurricane Ian. Our Coastal Zone staff rakes our beaches on Marco Island and
Vanderbilt Beach and we keep one tractor at Tiger Tail Park and one at Vanderbilt Beach parking
garage.
• Staff did a tremendous job this year prior to the hurricane. We have a lot of expensive equipment in
these areas, including $100,000 tractors and beach -raking equipment, and they brought all the
equipment that was mobile up to higher ground, closer to our offices at South Horseshoe Drive and
by the courthouse.
• Unfortunately, we have two small storage sheds that are bolted to the ground that contain equipment
and we couldn't move the sheds, materials and equipment out, so they were damaged.
• Staff did a great job afterward coming up with a plan to help mitigate that. Instead of installing
permanent sheds, we could get similar -sized trailers to keep in the same locations. In the event of a
storm, they can drag them to higher ground and save taxpayer money.
He outlined the recommendation:
Recommendation to approve an expenditure of $26,220 in Tourist Development Tax funds to Rick
Croft Enterprises Inc., dba Texas Trailers, under Contract Number FSA20-EQU18.0 — Heavy
Equipment (Piggyback Contract 251) for the purchase of two mobile cargo trailers for the storage of
equipment and supplies used for beach maintenance activities and make a finding that this
expenditure promotes tourism.
Mr. Raymond moved to recommend approving the expenditure of $26,220 in Tourist Development
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Tax funds to Rick Croft Enterprises Inc., dba Texas Trailers, under Contract No. FSA20-EQU18.0 —
Heavy Equipment (Piggyback Contract 251) for the purchase of two mobile cargo trailers for the
storage of equipment and supplies used for beach maintenance activities and made a finding that this
expenditure promotes tourism. Second by Mr. McCann. The motion passed unanimously, 7-0.
XI. Old Business
1. Update - USACE Collier CSRM - I :I5 p.m. Time Certain
Chairman Trecker told the CAC:
• This is an important project, a 50-year, multi -year study to provide protection against major storms
to coastal buildings and infrastructure.
• The program started years ago and never reached the end of the first stage, the feasibility study,
which is being restarted.
• It's critical that we understand the ground rules so we can provide input.
• Although we've been critical of the Army Corps of Engineers, it's the best agency in the country,
and possibly the world, for this type of analysis.
• We're lucky to have them and want to provide guidance as they restart this critical study.
Michelle Hamor, Chief of the Policy Branch of the ACE Norfolk District, introduced herself.
Chairman Trecker told her Andy Miller is here, as well as some stakeholders who will be impacted by
the study. He asked her to handle her presentation in three stages: the presentation, answer questions by the
CAC and then questions by the audience.
Ms. Hamor detailed a PowerPoint presentation, Re -initiation of the Collier County Coastal Storm Risk
Management Stud
Chairman Trecker told the public he has copies of the study if anyone wants one. He commended the Army
Corps of Engineers for its extensive, thorough work and asked about the beaches that were discarded from the
earlier study. Are you now proposing that the reinitiated study be based on Course Of Action No. 4, no
hardening, or will it start from a blank sheet of paper?
Ms. Hamor told the CAC:
• We estimated that we would formulate the plan to focus on the beaches, dunes and nonstructural,
given the environmental compliance and the limited experience with storm -surge barriers and flood
walls in this area.
• It would be an interim response, so if more hardening was recommended later, we have not fully
responded or provided a complete solution with just beaches and non-structural.
• When we look at plans, we are looking at maximizing that benefit. When we explain why we have to
invest this money in Florida, the feds want to know that they're getting a good return on their
investment, so we look at what plans maximize that net benefit.
• That net benefit is damages reduced minus the cost of that plan. That's our goal when we look at the
federal interest.
• It will include structural as we move forward.
• If that's not something Collier County supports, there's an opportunity to evaluate a Locally Preferred
Plan, which is a subset of a recommended plan that maximizes the net benefit and does not include
structural measures. We can identify that early and it can be part of the analysis.
Chairman Trecker asked if the options that were discarded earlier in Course of Action No. 4 are back on the
table and if hardening will be re-evaluated.
Ms. Hamor said that was right. We'll have to evaluate that as we look at the federal interest plan, the one that
maximizes that net benefit. The option is that we can include the Locally Preferred Plan so that we can
evaluate both options together.
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Chairman Trecker said that has a direct bearing on some of the original environmental objections to this and
called the Conservancy's and other groups' attention to that.
A discussion with Ms. Hamor ensued and the following points were made:
• The hardening is going to be re-evaluated and is not completely off the table.
• Feasibility studies are generally a 50-50 cost share, but this is 100% federally funded.
• As we move into design and construction, assuming the identified plan has federal interest or we have
been approved to recommend the Locally Preferred Plan, that cost share is generally 65/35, with 65%
federal funding.
• That's a major incentive for the county, even if we don't get everything we want.
• Federal money can't be used for a project that provides a cost that exceeds the value of the structure
being protected. When the Army Corps of Engineers formulates for alternatives, it works to identify a
plan that maximizes that return.
• The plan is to achieve environmental compliance.
• The Army Corps is required to be justified at a BCR (Benefit -Cost Ratio) of one or more, but the plan
will look at what maximizes that net benefit and what modifications can maximize that benefit.
• The original study stopped because the Army Corps was told to go back and evaluate costs due to
supply and demand issues after COVID. There was one area that was very close on the benefit -cost
ratio, so it was possible that if we were able to get through that cost analysis, we might have to go
back and reformulate. That would require more time than we had allotted. But we were also waiting
to get an answer from the Assistant Secretary of the Army for Civil Works on whether we were able
to push that environmental compliance into PED (about 47: 00 on the video) and when that answer
came back as no, we didn't have enough time remaining in the study to be able to reevaluate the
recommended plan based on the updated cost. And we didn't have enough time to complete the
environmental compliance and that's when the study expired.
• The direction from the Assistant Secretary of the Army for Civil Works has directed that the Army
Corps will achieve environmental compliance. Once a plan is formulated and the more complex it is,
including structural measures, the more work is necessary to achieve environmental compliance. It's
very important for our partners and resource agencies to identify what's necessary to achieve
compliance.
• The federal interest in the project is based on depreciated replacement value. When the Army Corps
evaluates structures, those are the damages that are being reduced. The Army Corps looks at a
structure in the condition it is in today, so it may be a lower value than what's seen on Zillow or
parcel data. We look at how much would it cost to replace it in its existing condition. That's the
benefit the Army Corps developed.
• There are other features that the Army Corps evaluates, such as if a beach reach is identified as
having a benefit -cost ratio, such as recreation and tourists coming to the beach, which is an economic
driver in Collier County. The Army Corps reaches a threshold for each feature to allow those benefits
to be included, but it's primarily to reduce damage within that area.
• The Army Corps is not looking at the flood insurance $250,000 exposure limit. For each structure, the
Army Corps looks at the age and occupancy type and then develops low, average and high values for
that structure type to calculate an appreciated replacement value for that structure.
• Mr. Roth and Vice Chairman Burke agreed hardened structures are probably needed and hope the
community's feelings have changed about that since the flooding from Hurricane Ian.
• The original study bombed in the City of Naples and residents were unified in their opposition, but
Hurricane Ian was a game changer for the county and city, so it's good to move forward on this.
• 75% of the public beaches involved are in the City of Naples, so the city wants a stake in this study as
a full partner and wants more community engagement for Naples and Marco Island.
• The community wants not just meetings, but the ability to understand the context of their choices so
they can make mindful choices and provide good input throughout the process.
• It's important for this study to move forward because of the impacts of sea -level rise and because
there will be more storms.
• All options — physical and natural structures — need to be considered, and we'll probably need a mix
to be successful.
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• Dan Hughes' presentation was based on the original study, that not every area is going to be protected
due to the criteria the Army Corps must follow. The county likely will have to come up with money
to support other structures.
• The recommended (original) plan will reduce future damages to structures in Collier County by 36%,
so 64% of future damages remain after the plan's implementation. This project is not designed to be a
complete and singular solution to eliminate coastal storm risk and prevent all effects of storm risk.
The county should move forward with its own resiliency efforts.
• That was based on the structural measures at Doctor's Pass and Wiggins Pass, so if structures are
removed from consideration, the county's residual risk likely will increase because it will not keep
the water out of those areas.
• Community input is needed to determine the level of residual risk the community is comfortable with
accepting. When you remove beaches, dunes and non-structural, residual risk may increase as the
Army Corps looks at other options.
• The original Course of Action No. 4 said that Pelican Bay would be reevaluated because the initial
study omitted some of the beach buildings, such as the Ritz -Carlton, which have considerable value
and weren't considered.
• The original guidance suggested that areas like Pelican Bay and perhaps part of Marco Island could
fund some of these efforts and be included in the actual implementation of the program.
• Private beaches could be renourished at the same time, but funding cannot come from the federal
government. It would have to come from the county.
• The community needs digestible information, such as graphics to show flooding, and to prevent the
misinformation about hurricane barriers that are needed that occurred the last time. Hopefully, the
damage caused by Hurricane Ian will help change public perception.
• The county could help with communicating simple, digestible information.
Mr. Miller introduced another member of Ms. Hamor's team, Abby Preddy, a project manager and planning
team lead for the Collier County CSRM feasibility study.
Ms. Preddy told the CAC:
• Board of County Commissioners approval was set for last week or this week.
• That Army Corps requested that they move forward with a course of action for beach and
nonstructural only.
• Even though the Assistant Secretary of the Army Office approved the schedule and the budget for
that Course Of Action, they did not approve it moving forward for us to go full steam ahead with that
Course Of Action or removing structural components from the design.
• That's why they want to reformulate the plan. We're not just moving forward with beaches and non-
structural only. We need to manage expectations as we do that formulation and bring in public
feedback and input to make screening decisions because there are many trade-offs between structural
or non-structural.
• There are tradeoffs for performance and actual risk management, as well as cost for damage actually
reduced.
• The Tamiami Trail Flood Wall is a special structural measure from our recommended plan because it
is the only measure proposed in Planning Area 5 and it protects the county's socially vulnerable areas,
is not economically justified and it wasn't in the previous study.
• We primarily look at economic damages in that NED (National Economic Development) benefit, but
because of the number of structures, residential communities and socially vulnerable communities
that the floodwall protected, we requested and were accepted for an exception.
• As we move forward to discuss with the county and the community the potential of screening those
structural measures, residual risk, costs and benefits, that will all come into play and be important.
We can't screen some structural measures based on cost alone because there are many other things to
consider, such as comprehensive benefits, social equity, environmental impacts, etc.
[Public speakers]
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Kathy Worley, director of Environmental Science, Conservancy of Southwest Florida, told the CAC:
• The Conservancy appreciates that the county and the Army Corps are considering steps to mitigate
sea -level rise and storm surge impacts. If you are proceeding with the same plan alternative that was
recommended by the Army Corps in 2018 without any changes there will be a high probability of
negative impacts, not just to our natural resources.
• The Army Corps admitted that its plan only addresses attenuating storm risk, storm surge and, to
some extent, beach erosion, but very little at the time was focused on natural solutions that work with
Mother Nature instead of against her.
• It also does not look at other innovations that have occurred since that time.
• The approach doesn't consider the ramifications of all aspects of climate -change challenges that
we're facing today. Both inland and coastal areas must work together. Looking at this in isolation of
just the coast could be a mistake because it could trigger other unintended flooding challenges inland.
• Alternative 4A has a heavy reliance on the hardened structures and this approach could have
significant environmental, water quality and quality -of -life implications.
• Impacts to the surge barriers, sluice gates and flood walls on hydrology and water quality have the
potential to be significant when you close them or build these structures. You've got to think about
what's happening inland to fresh water. During storms, you don't just get water coming in from the
Gulf, it's coming down from the sky, causing increased flooding. We already have flooding problems
in roadways when we have heavy rains.
• Will these structures cause further impoundment inland?
• We ask that modeling be done to see what happens to the inland areas if there is storm surge and sea -
level rise in combination with heavy rains that accompany storms with the proposed structure and
hardenings, so we don't end up flooding other areas to save the coast. It must be looked at together.
• That is outside the Army Corp's purview, but we can't afford to get that wrong.
April Olson, Senior Environmental Planning Specialist, Conservancy of Southwest Florida, told the
CAC:
• The Conservancy represents 6,500 member families.
• How much of the 2021 draft feasibility report in EIS will form the basis for the 2023 feasibility study
and EIS. She heard words like "revisit, reformulated and re-evaluated," so it sounds like the 2021
alternatives will serve as the baseline for this new report.
• According to the timeline, the planned milestone is due in October 2023, which appears to be when
the county will be asked formally to support this TSP. Would a Locally Preferred Plan have to be
submitted well before October 2023 for it to be considered?
• By what date does a Locally Preferred Plan have to be submitted and what is the process?
• Based on what was stated at the January 24, 2022, Board of County Commissioner meeting, it sounds
like the Army Corps would discourage the county from requesting any major changes to the study
and tentatively selected plan after the TSP milestone and after the draft feasibility report. An EIS
comes out in December 2023. The Army Corps would only be open to minor changes after the draft
report is published. If so, isn't that counter to NEPA (Natural Environmental Policy Act) rules?
• What happens if critical issues are discovered in the draft feasibility report and EIS during the 45-day
comment period starting December 2023 and these issues necessitate significant changes to the plan
and study?
• The Draft -Feasibility Plan states that "the construction of the jetties at Wiggins Pass' storm surge
barrier would result in anticipated significant impact to the natural barrier, island hydrology,
bathymetry and sediment transport." How much of this part of the plan will be reconsidered?
Ms. Hamor responded that:
• For the timeline, the TSP we're looking at is October 2023.
• If the goal is to do a Locally Preferred Plan, we identify that early so it can be included in our analysis
and won't delay completion of the study as it moves forward. It is always the right of the non-federal
sponsor to identify a Locally Preferred Plan, which can be early or later. When it's identified, it
impacts the schedule.
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As the focus of developing the NED plan, the one that maximizes net benefits, we can formulate a
Locally Preferred Plan, but we will still need to request permission to recommend it when we go into
our draft report. Formulating it early and defining what it looks like, the future -with and the future -
without analysis will be helpful in telling the story.
In the final report, NEPA is what guides us toward getting environmental compliance. If an issue
needs to be addressed, we have to stop and address that. We cannot complete the final report until
those issues are successfully addressed.
As we roll out the charrette and public meetings, we would consider comments from resource
agencies and the community regarding significant impacts or effects that would be show -stoppers in
terms of a measure, such as if we could not overcome the environmental compliance for a barrier at
Wiggins Pass. We do develop mitigation when we formulate our measures, but we're really looking
for input from the community and resource agencies.
Chairman Trecker asked if there were any comments from Pelican Bay.
Dr. Dabees, speaking on behalf of Pelican Bay and other parts of Collier County, said:
• We appreciate the re -initiation of the study and look forward to being more inclusive in the next
phase.
• The Pelican Bay area is within the Collier County analysis and previous study. We had issues with
some of the recommended action.
As we move forward, we welcome the engagement with the county and the Army Corps of
Engineers as they develop this plan.
We also had some concern about how Marco Island was formulated in the previous plan.
We look forward to working with the county on this.
Mr. Christman presented the following points to Ms. Hamor:
• The Army Corps has a very clear and specific timetable and process, including the completion of the TSP
by October and the draft plan by December.
• A Locally Preferred Plan is a relatively recent concept that's been promoted by a lot of groups nationwide
and he wasn't certain how often, if at all, it's been implemented.
• It seems like local residents would best determine whether a Locally Preferred Plan, which might include
alternatives to Army Corps plan, is needed, but that could only be determined when there is a draft plan.
• It appears that if Collier County and the City of Naples wanted to pursue a Locally Preferred Plan, they
would need to begin work on that well before October.
• Can she shed light on that process procedurally? If a Locally Preferred Plan is pursued, is that onus,
financially and otherwise, on the non-federal sponsor or can it be added to the scope of work for the Army
Corps and local sponsors to carry out?
Ms. Hamor responded that:
• When we evaluate alternatives, we're looking for those in the NED plan that are economically justified,
engineeringly feasible environmentally and socially acceptable and Corps compliant. That would be the
focus for the alternatives.
• When we get comments on structural measures, the reason we're not able to just pull those out or screen
those measures out is that we need to work through them. Are they engineeringly feasible or are they
environmentally acceptable, so they may not fall out immediately, but may fall out later.
• If the expectation is that there is a subset the county would like, then we would want to identify what that
is based on public comment as we go through alternatives.
• That might get modified as we work through the planning iteration, but that would be part of the scope of
work that we would focus on for the feasibility study and it would be included within the Army Corps'
scope of work.
• We would have to request approval to recommend that later.
• Some findings and recommendations in the alternatives analysis may score higher than others for the
Army Corps of Engineers, but there may be other preferences that could constitute the Locally Preferred
Plan.
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Vice Chairman Burke noted that:
• The Corps has established criteria, so if the county wants to pursue other activities outside of that, it
needs to replicate that flood -model criteria to get a direct comparison.
• We could ask the Army Corps if it's worse to be 36% protected or if the county pays X dollars more,
how can it get 50% protected?
• If we're going to evaluate other options, we need to start with the same base model, so we all need to
agree this is the flood inundation under a Category 3 at this angle hitting the coast.
• This is all very specific in the current Army Corps plan. If you change any of those variables, you come
out with a totally different answer.
Chairman Trecker said that because of the proposal for the extended study, he was led to believe that this
would be the COA No. 4 with no hardening. And now you're saying no, that's too narrow, it's now going to be
somewhat broadened as you reevaluate?
Vice Chairman Burke said we experienced the real -world event (Hurricane Ian) where even if we had the no -
hardening, we were at risk, a significant risk. The Army Corps was thinking the county was limiting costs and
was very anti -hardened structure.
Mr. Christman said the city certainly was. The biggest worry all residents have is will the Army Corps be
flexible and will residents have an opportunity for true input and citizen engagement in the new plan? The fear is
that they will be boxed into solutions they may not prefer.
Ms. Hamor said we heard the public from the last feasibility study and will increase our public outreach. That
will include briefings to committees like the CAC and others, as well as providing opportunities for additional
public comment. We will increase that opportunity so we can get community feedback. We need to ensure that
the meeting dates are widely published so we can get the turnout we need to get that feedback.
Chairman Trecker thanked Ms. Hamor for her input. He noted that this won't be the last of these sessions.
2. Update — Emergency Berm Project
Chairman Trecker said we discussed this extensively at the January meeting and the minutes were
thorough. The various stages are spelled out. Kudos to Andy for all the work. Where does it stand now?
Mr. Miller told the CAC that:
• We're trying to get contracts for the sand supplier to the BCC and approved. They're expected to go
to BCC's second meeting in February.
• That will allow us to have three sand suppliers, Stewart Materials (Immokalee), Vulcan (Materials
Co.) mines in Moore Haven and Garcia Mining Co. in Clewiston.
• We need a lot of sand this year to do this berm project. One single mine is not going to be able to
provide that amount of sand in the time we need the work done. Two mines will have to work in
parallel with two different contractors.
• He's reviewing the final engineering documents from APTIM engineers, who have been working
since December/January, putting together the berm project and coming up with quantities.
• If we can get those plans and specifications finalized and sent to Procurement to put out to bid, our
target is to do a 10-day construction bid, get the bids in, award the contracts and start hauling sand.
• We hope to be close to that effort by the end of February or the beginning of March, possibly mid -
March, but we're doing everything we can to get it started as soon as we can.
Chairman Trecker asked if the plan was to get an extension from FEMA.
Mr. Miller said in all likelihood, yes. The clock is ticking and every day lost will probably push us into
April or May.
Chairman Trecker said that will take us into turtle -nesting season, but you can work around that.
Mr. Miller said yes, we'll do extra monitoring and if we have to relocate nests or avoid them or add a pile of
sand to fill in the gap after the turtles hatch, then we'll do that too.
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Chairman Trecker asked if Naples and Park Shore would be first because they need the most sand.
Mr. Miller said that was correct. Naples' and Park Shore's sand requirements are larger than the beaches
to the north volume -wise, so we want to start that project first, then we will probably follow a couple of
weeks later with Vanderbilt, Pelican Bay and Barefoot Beach and Marco Island.
Chairman Trecker commended the support by the BCC to approve the $24 million.
Attorney Greene noted that there was one public speaker on this item.
Ashley Jenkins, told the CAC:
• She's heard rumors since 2000 that Florida would be under sea level and called that nonsense because
physics shows it's not possible.
• There is less area to boat in due to depths rising.
• Did the sea levels rise or has our sand merely migrated, offsetting levels and causing a false rise?
• She's been told it would cost millions to dredge our bays, considering that the benthic mat from all
the nutrients ... cause a decrease in coastal water tides being at levels we witnessed one year ago as
sea levels, so it appears that the sea levels have risen.
• Sea levels in our areas have not engulfed us in any model proposed since the United Nations invented
global warming.
• In the past month, she and Shelley McKiernan advocated for an equipment -free dredging project with
the Big Cypress Water Basin affecting Golden Gate Canal and Henderson Creek.
• This has impacted coastal waterways, such as the passes that lead to the Gulf of Mexico.
• She encourages the CAC to hold an intercounty meeting to treat the bays in a five-year plan and
retrieve the displaced sand, saving us millions of dollars.
• Because much of this damage was created by sand displacement during Hurricane Ian, it would be of
interest to secure funding from FEMA to conduct this endeavor.
• The FDEP also has issued a statement that all Collier County estuaries are currently impaired for
nutrients in the absence of criteria for nitrogen and phosphorus in the upstream watersheds. Meeting
the downstream merit criteria and the estuaries that feed the Gulf of Mexico are impossible via
existing regulatory mechanisms. They have encouraged us to seek solutions in-house in Collier
County.
• These excess nutrient levels feed red tide, which impacts the health of our coastal waterways and
beaches, but you feel a berm is necessary.
• As a resident for the past six years, she disagrees. Water will find the lowest area to intrude and this
merely is a symptom cure instead of a solution.
• If you put these sand dunes on our coast, if we were to have another surge, the water will simply
move into the intercoastal waterways and then hit the islands or the land from behind.
• This is a Band-Aid to the problem.
• Can she assist the CAC with facilitating an intercounty meeting to come up with a solution?
Chairman Trecker asked what group she wanted them to work with.
Ms. Jenkins said there are various solutions and she could put together a white paper on cost-effective
solutions that cost less than millions of dollars that would solve a benthic mat. That's when all the bacteria
breaks down and you get sludge, which forms almost like a firm area that then pushes water up because all the
debris has formed a sediment at the bottom. That's occurring in many of our bays due to constant nutrient
overload.
Chairman Trecker asked her to put that together and he'd send it to Coastal Management.
Ms. Jenkins said she'd do that.
Chairman Trecker said we've made the point that reimbursement of tourist -tax dollars would apply to areas
like Pelican Bay that were covered. He asked Lisa Jacob (in the audience), of Pelican Bay Services, to tell
Pelican Bay Services that some private expenditures are probably going to be needed. You've got a 75%
reimbursement from FEMA and other federal money is likely. The governor has made it clear there's going to
be state money. But Pelican Bay Services Division may be asked to contribute funds.
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Mr. Christman said the city and FEMA have been working very hard to get this project going, but the
timetable has slipped. Last week, City Council discussed this beginning closer to mid -February or late
February and now it may be mid -March. Once it starts, the public will probably react because it will be noisy
and invasive enough that there will be issues. We've got to do it, but the conflicts with turtle nesting season
are more substantial than we thought. Residents are going to be concerned because there are few things that
are more important to the average city and county resident than annual turtle -nesting activity. He wanted to
sensitize them to that as the county moves forward.
Mr. Miller said we've already been working with our county turtle monitoring people, making them aware
that this is a possibility and they've given us guidance on certain options, including avoiding the nests and
potentially relocating them. It's important to get as much of the work done prior to the May 1 st deadline and
we'll make every effort to do that. They may have guidance on what beaches we need to tackle first, but from
the reports we saw last year, the turtles were all over the place and very abundant, so we don't know if we'll
have the same issue this year, but we'll get through it.
3. Update - Tigertail Lagoon / Sand Dollar Island Ecosystem Restoration
Mr. Miller reported that:
• After your approval, we took it to the TDC, which approved it and made a recommendation about
additional sand that was required in the change order for 85,000 yards of additional sand to be
dredged.
• Hideaway Beach Taxing District asked for reimbursement for 60,000 of the 85,000. When it went to
the Tourist Development Council, they asked why we didn't kick in the extra 25,000 to cover it all.
• They made a recommendation and approved that.
Mr. Roth noted that Dr. Dabees was in the audience. He saw something about the Hideaway project on social
media recently. There's a natural breach that occurred in an unnamed storm around 2020 that is refeeding the
lagoon by the parking lot and Hideaway, where people wade across. Will the new island that's being built
seaward of that affect it or will that breach be closed off or filled in? How will that all come together?
Dr. Dabees said the breach that occurred almost a year ago has been flushing or circulating water on the
south part of the lagoon, but that also comes at the expense of a lot of sand moving in inside the lagoon,
covering valuable resources, and on seagrasses and other things, and also destabilizing the beach in front of
the Gulf shore of the park. When we continue construction of the protective berm along the middle section of
Sand Dollar Island, that will close that meandering breach. We're close to working in that area now and that
breach will be closed. Instead, we're recreating the flow channel within the lagoon that will act as the main
source of tidal water to go throughout the two -mile -long lagoon.
Mr. Roth asked if it will continue to feed that section of the lagoon.
Dr. Dabees said yes, a big part of that design was dictated by the condition at the at the dead-end of the
lagoon, the water quality. We're installing a real-time CIM (Continuous Instream Monitoring) that collects
water quality and flow measurements, which will be part of our future monitoring for the health of the lagoon.
X. Announcements
XI. Committee Member Discussion
XII. Next Meeting
March 9, 2023, 1 p.m.
XIII. Adjournment
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by order of
the Chairman at 2:53 p.m.
Collier County Coastal Advisory Committee
David T c r, Chairman
These minutes were approved by the Committee on 1 t Z � 1(check one) as presented, X or
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