CCPC Minutes 03/02/2023 (5:05 pm)
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
COLLIER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
Naples, Florida
March 2, 2023
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier
County Planning Commission, in and for the County of
Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date
at 5:05 p.m., in SPECIAL SESSION in Building "F" of the
Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the
following members present:
Edwin Fryer, Chairman
Paul Shea
Randy Sparrazza
Chuck Schumacher
ABSENT:
Joe Schmitt, Vice Chair
Robert L. Klucik, Jr.
Christopher T. Vernon
Amy Lockhart, Collier County School Board Representative
ALSO PRESENT:
Mike Bosi, Planning and Zoning Director
Derek Perry, County Attorney's Office
P R O C E E D I N G S
MR. BOSI: Chair, you have a live mic.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: Thank you, Mr. Bosi.
Good evening, everyone, and welcome to the evening
session of the March 2, 2023, meeting of the Collier County
Planning Commission.
We will begin by establishing, first of all, for the record
that it's five minutes after 5:00 p.m. And I'm going to ask
the secretary again to call the roll to establish the existence
of a quorum.
Mr. Secretary.
COMMISSIONER SHEA: Commissioner Lockhart is
not here.
Chuck Schumacher?
COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER: Here.
COMMISSIONER SHEA: Randy Sparrazza?
COMMISSIONER SPARRAZZA: Here.
Mr. Klucik's not here. Mr. Vernon's not here.
I am here. And Chairman Fryer is here. We have
four out of seven, so we have a quorum.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have but one matter on the
agenda for this evening, and it is a companion to one of the
matters that we heard this afternoon. This is
PL20200002400. It's the Collier Boulevard and I-75
Innovation Zone Land Development Code amendments.
And, again, it's legislative in nature. We don't need to
swear in witnesses or disclose ex parte communications.
So with that, the Chair recognizes Mr. Johnson.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you, Mr. Chair. For the
record, Eric Johnson, LDC planning manager. I have a
brief PowerPoint presentation I'd like to show you, if you'll
indulge me.
So this is the Collier Boulevard/Interstate 75
Innovation Zone Overlay. This is a graphic that James
showed you earlier in the day. This is the aerial
photography or digital imagery. This is what it would look
like if it were in the code, or something similar to it.
Tonight, if approved and also if this is ultimately
adopted, we would be amending eight zoning atlas maps,
and these are the maps.
Also, we would be removing the overlay that's existing
there right now, the Activity Center No. 9 overlay. I have
on the visualizer -- or on the display the PUD that is not
going to be included in this -- in this overlay. So that dark,
heavy line would be removed.
There are a number of zoning districts in this
overlay -- underlying zoning, that is. You have the rural
agricultural, you have the C-4, and then you have nine
different Planned Unit Developments, and you can see them
on the screen.
So I took a closer look at the parcel data that we have
available through the Property Appraiser's website, and there
are 409 parcel IDs for this overlay; 288 of them are actually
condominiumized. So if my math is correct, that's 121
remaining parcels that aren't condos.
The total taxable value is 414,663,288. Very large
number. That's not the taxes that the -- that the Property
Appraiser puts out there. That's just the total taxable value.
And the total taxable value is the assessed value minus
exemptions and is the value the Tax Collector uses to
calculate the taxes due.
The largest parcel is over -- a little over 155 acres. It's
owned by Collier County. And the Property Appraiser uses
the Department of Revenue use codes. If you ever go into
their website, you can see that they have a two-digit code,
and there's a number of them, from 0 to 99, or maybe 1 to
99. And what I did, though, is I selected the use codes that
were government, and I think it's noteworthy to know that
38 percent of these parcel IDs are government parcel IDs,
government designated.
I'm going to go to the next slide. So the highlights of
the proposed CBIIZO, it omits the Forest Glen of Naples
PUD, as we discussed earlier. The CBIIZO is larger in
acreage than what was the Activity Center No. 9 zoning
overlay that's currently in the code right now, which would
be replaced by this overlay, and the CBIIZO generally
follows the Innovation Zone that was there minus the Forest
Glen PUD.
And as Heidi had mentioned earlier, we're not
proposing anything tonight with respect to the Innovation
Zone that's there right now. And as Mr. Sabo mentioned
before, there's three innovation zones in the whole county;
this is one of them.
The CBIIZO eliminates the Activity Center No. 9
zoning overlay from eight different zoning maps with the
exclusion of Forest Glen. If this were to be adopted, it
would appear on seven zoning atlas maps. And that's the
reason why we're here, again, is because we're proposing to
change zoning atlas maps, nighttime hearing, and also
propose different uses, various uses.
The CBIIZO would reinstitute most design standards of
Activity Center No. 9 into the CBIIZO and including some
modifications. The applicability of the overlay would be to
all development excluding residential-only uses. The
CBIIZO creates new pollution control standards, except for
residential-only uses.
There are almost 600 new permitted and conditional
and economic development uses that are proposed for this
overlay. That's not to say that some of them aren't already
in some of the PUDs that are existing on the ground, so to
speak, or on the books. But we're proposing nearly 600
permitted and conditional economic development uses.
I would point out that we are also proposing two
prohibited uses, and those two prohibited uses are homeless
shelters and soup kitchens.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: I would add to that that, per
the structure of county ordinances, any uses that are not
exclusively permitted are, by inference, prohibited.
MR. JOHNSON: Understood and agreed.
Any permitted uses that are proposed by this overlay, if
they have outdoor storage, that would require a CU, a
conditional use. And as you know, a conditional use
requires a separate public hearing.
The CBIIZO adds minimum design standards for
economic development uses. Those are comprised of
minimum lot design requirements and building dimension
standards, operational standards, environmental
architectural, and site design.
The goal here is to attract QTI, the Qualified Targeted
Industries. We would say, subjectively, advanced
manufacturing could be on that list. There is no
defined -- or there is no definition for advanced
manufacturing; it's subjective. But these are two pictures of
what it could look like. Not saying that they will look like
this, but, you know, this is an example of what we're aiming
for.
When -- as I mentioned about the QTI, the Qualified
Targeted Industries, the State of Florida works in
cooperation -- the Department of Economic Opportunity
from the State of Florida works in cooperation with
Enterprise Florida, and they have developed a whole laundry
list of QTI, Qualified Targeted Industries, and they have
memorialized it using the North American Industry, NAICS,
classification system, the NAICS. Well, we here in Collier
County don't use the NAICS. We generally use the SIC,
the standard industrial classification, from 1987. And so
when we went from that conversion, there were some
non-QTI uses that were included, and here's the list. We're
proposing tonight that you would exclude 7353, 7359, and
8351. We don't believe that this meets the spirit of the QTI.
COMMISSIONER SHEA: Can you go back to that --
MR. JOHNSON: I'm sorry.
COMMISSIONER SHEA: Can you go back to that
last slide?
MR. JOHNSON: Yes.
COMMISSIONER SHEA: I was trying to read some
of the ones that you felt were acceptable.
MR. JOHNSON: May I proceed?
COMMISSIONER SHEA: Yes, sir. Thank you.
MR. JOHNSON: So this is our hearing schedule.
We're -- this is a companion item; different agenda, though.
We're looking to move this to the Board of County
Commissioners sometime in the spring.
Our recommendation, I have spelled it out for you, if
you would so kindly indulge me, to recommend approval, is
to recommend approval of the CBIIZO, and you would
exclude the SICs 7353, 7359, and 8351. That's all I have.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: Thank you.
MR. JOHNSON: Oh, sorry. I wanted to show on the
visualizer, on the visualizer I'm highlighting E, as in echo.
That's on Page 14 of your packet. Really, I didn't -- we
didn't need to make this a part of the motion because it's
already in the proposed deleted language. Let me show
you. I just needed to press return.
So if you were so to make a motion, you would not
have to include anything about that stricken-out text.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: Thank you, Mr. Johnson.
Any questions from the dais? No one is signaling at
this point.
I think we're pretty much questioned out at this point.
Having had a good discussion this afternoon, I believe we
all understand what the issues are. Looking at the uses, we
appreciate the overall concept of an innovation zone and
certainly earnestly hope, as does staff, I know, that this bears
the kind of fruit that we hope and expect it will.
So I will turn to Mr. Youngblood and, just for
confirmation, do we have any registered speakers, sir?
MR. YOUNGBLOOD: I don't have any registered
speakers for this item.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: All right. Are there any
people in the chambers today who have not registered but,
nonetheless, wish to be heard on this matter, now would be
the time to raise your hand.
Seeing no hands raised, we will close the public
comment portion of this hearing, and it now falls upon our
shoulders to deliberate and entertain a motion and take
action.
COMMISSIONER SPARRAZZA: Mr. Chairman, if I
may.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: Please.
COMMISSIONER SPARRAZZA: You referred to it
earlier, and I just want to understand, if someone wishes to
bring a business into this area that is not on the list, what
happens? I know you have 583, or whatever that number
is.
MR. JOHNSON: If it's not an economic development
use as we have called it, it's a term of art, and they don't
have it in the underlying zoning district, then they wouldn't
be allowed to come forward with that use.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: But that's the key, because the
underlying zoning is very broad. We're not taking away
any uses.
COMMISSIONER SPARRAZZA: You're actually
adding to that.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: That's exactly right.
COMMISSIONER SHEA: It would still be a
conditional item, wouldn't it?
COMMISSIONER SPARRAZZA: It would be a
conditional-use item.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: Well, if it's a permitted use on
the underlying zoning, it's permitted.
Mr. Bosi.
MR. BOSI: Well, I was going to say, if it was a use
that was not allotted for within the QTI uses that we are
adding now, if it was not within the underlying zoning of the
PUD or the underlying zoning category, then that individual
would have to seek a rezoning of the property to add that use
to -- either to their zoning district or to their PUD.
COMMISSIONER SPARRAZZA: So there is a
stopgap, there is a check on the use other than what's stated.
It doesn't -- in other words, it doesn't come into a decision
that could lead to ambiguity; it's on the list, or it has to come
for a rezoning --
MR. BOSI: Yes.
COMMISSIONER SPARRAZZA: -- correct? That's
what I wanted.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: There are two layers of
permissible uses. Right now there's one, but if this gets
passed here and the Board of County Commissioners, there
will be the underlying uses which will continue, and then the
Innovation Zone uses, and then there's always the
opportunity of a landowner to come in and ask for a rezone.
COMMISSIONER SPARRAZZA: Rezone. Great.
Thank you. I appreciate it.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: Thank you. Any other
questions or comments?
COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER: I have one.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: Commissioner Schumacher.
COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER: On the
residential parcels themselves, are those then now rezoned
into this and --
MR. JOHNSON: No, they would retain their
residential zoning. They just wouldn't be allowed to have
the economic development use in that area.
COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER: Got it. And
then those landowners could, then, ask to be part of this and
rezone, or is that --
MR. JOHNSON: If the landowners -- say you had an
undeveloped piece of property that was residential, and they
wanted to -- well, they could always -- well, I think -- the
way it's structured is that the economic development use
wouldn't be allowed on that residential parcel. They could
ask to rezone or redesignate that -- their parcels to
something other than residential, or they can rezone their
property to include that use --
COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER: Got it.
MR. JOHNSON: -- which would require a public
hearing. Does that make sense?
COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER: Perfect sense,
actually. That does. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: Other questions or comments
from the Planning Commission?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN FRYER: We've closed the public
hearing -- public comment portion, and so now the burden is
on us to decide what we want to do. Anyone want to make
a motion or discuss further?
COMMISSIONER SPARRAZZA: It's my turn?
COMMISSIONER SHEA: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER SPARRAZZA: I so move to
motion the proposal that is before us. Okay. Recommend
approval of the CBIIZO to the BCC with a caveat to exclude
SIC 7353, 7359, and 8351.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: Thank you, Commissioner.
Is there a second?
COMMISSIONER SHEA: Second.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: Any further discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN FRYER: If not, all those in favor,
please say aye.
COMMISSIONER SCHUMACHER: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SHEA: Aye.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SPARRAZZA: Aye.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN FRYER: It passes unanimously.
Thank you, Mr. Johnson.
Thank you, staff.
MR. JOHNSON: Thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN FRYER: Thank you, Planning
Commission.
There being no other further matters to come before the
Planning Commission at this time, and without objection,
we're adjourned.
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There being no further business for the good of the County,
the meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 5:20 p.m.
COLLIER COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION
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EDWIN FRYER, CHAIRMAN
These minutes approved by the Board on ____________, as
presented ______________ or as corrected _____________.
TRANSCRIPT PREPARED ON BEHALF OF FORT MYERS
COURT REPORTING BY TERRI L. LEWIS, RPR, FPR-C,
COURT REPORTER AND NOTARY PUBLIC.