TDC Minutes 07/25/2022 Draft July 25, 2022
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MINUTES OF THE COLLIER COUNTY TOURIST DEVELOPMENT
COUNCIL MEETING
Naples, Florida, July 25, 2022
LET IT BE REMEMBERED the Collier County Tourist Development Council in and for
the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00 AM in a
REGULAR SESSION in Building F of the Government Complex, Naples, Florida, with
the following members present:
Chairman: Commissioner Andy Solis
Vice Chairman: Clark Hill (excused)
Amanda Cox
Susan Becker
Kathleen Brock (via Zoom)
Ed “Ski” Olesky
Jared Grifoni
Nancy Kerns
Beth Petrunoff (excused)
ALSO PRESENT: Paul Beirnes, Collier County Tourism Director
Colleen Greene, Assistant County Attorney
Buzzy Ford, Digital & Social Media Coordinator, County Tourism
Marissa Baker, Manager, Paradise Coast Sports Complex
Amanda Townsend, County Museums Director
John Melleky, County Arts & Culture Manager (via Zoom)
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Any persons in need of the verbatim record of the meeting may request a copy of the video recording
from the Collier County Communications and Customer Relations Department or view it online.
1. Call to Order
Chairman Solis called the meeting to order at 9 a.m.
2. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
3. Roll Call
A quorum of eight was established by those members present in the board room; a ninth arrived later.
Ms. Kerns made a motion to allow Ms. Brock to participate via phone due to an extraordinary
circumstance. Second by Ms. Becker. The motion passed unanimously, 6-0; Ms. Brock abstained.
4. Agenda and Minutes
A. Changes and Approval of Today’s Agenda
No changes
B. Approval of prior TDC Meeting Minutes
Regular Meeting June 27, 2022
Ms. Becker made a motion to approve the June 27, 2022, meeting minutes. Second by Councilor
Grifoni. The motion was carried unanimously, 7-0.
5. Presentations/Public Comment - (3 minutes each)
None
6. Consent Agenda
All matters listed under this agenda item are routine and action will be taken by one motion without
separate discussion on each item. If discussion is desired by a member of the TDC, those items will
be moved from the Consent Agenda and considered separately under New Business or Old Business.
A. Coastal Zone Management
None
B. Beach Park Facilities
None
C. Tourism Division
None
7. New Business
7.1 Recommendation to approve the use of the Tourism Development Tax Promotion funds to
support the upcoming Southeast USA Labor Day Cup Soccer Tournament (September 3-5,
2022), up to a maximum of $12,000, and make a finding that these expenditures promote
tourism.
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Mr. Beirnes said the items under New Business involve amateur soccer events. We have worked
very closely with the Paradise Coast Sports Complex and are thrilled to see some momentum. The
first soccer event takes place in September, the Southeast USA Labor Day Cup Soccer Tournament.
It’s a recommendation to approve the use of the Tourist Development Tax Promotional Funds to
support the upcoming Southeast USA Labor Day Cup Soccer Tournament, which will take place
from Sept. 3 through Sept. 5, 2022, up to a maximum of $12,000, and to make a finding that these
expenditures promote tourism. For all three of these, they are events that had previously taken place
in 2018-2019. They haven’t been here since then.
We took a conservative approach based on their previous numbers and looked at the economic
impact for all three. We worked with Adrian and Marissa to review the field registration fees. We
built a model similar to what we’ve done in the past, which was $15 per room night that is booked
and executed. It must be demonstrated that it actually happened, not through a third party, but
actually a room block. We capped that fund at what the fee is for the field rentals, so the direct
impact on the first event is $1.5 million.
The second impact, which is the expanded economic impact, is $2.1 million. These numbers are a
little larger than what we have normally seen because the average daily rate has continued to rise.
We based numbers on last year’s updates, so this particular time of year was still somewhere in the
range of $250 for the average daily rate over the late weekend room nights. Projected were 1,200
and we peeled it back to our approval of only 800 nights and that caps it at what the maximum rental
fees are for the field, 15 times 800 room nights. It must be demonstrated at the back end and it will
be funded post event.
Ms. Cox said since the first event is over the holiday weekend and we are starting to see demand
normalize a bit more to a historic 2019, do we anticipate having any challenges gaining the amount
of room blocks from a participatory perspective based on the holiday weekend?
Mr. Beirnes said it’s hard to know. We will see a pretty solid summer, but it’s still really
questionable what happens once kids go back to school. We see some real strong optimism on the
international market, which will carry us well in the fall, but it’s a real big question mark and
certainly a challenge to event organizers. But based on the information that we have with gas prices,
we would be remiss if we did not try to frame things up as best as we could. It’s certainly going to be
a challenge. Let’s hope that will be a great case scenario.
Ms. Cox said we didn’t struggle for room nights in 2018 or 2019?
Mr. Beirnes said no.
Councilor Grifoni asked if this was held last year.
Ms. Baker said he did host his event at Paradise Coast Sports Complex for the first time post-
pandemic last year, but did not request grant funding. It probably had just been paused because of
everything that was going on, so he is returning for grant funding. They did host it last year.
Chairman Solis asked if there was any information on how many participants there were last year.
Ms. Baker said she couldn’t remember the exact number, but he usually gets anywhere between 100
and 200 and he always produces. She can find the exact number for the TDC.
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Chairman Solis noted that last year also would have been a reduced amount and must be proven to
be reimbursed the full $12,000. If there’s only $7,100 then it’s a lower reimbursement.
Mr. Beirnes said that was correct.
Councilor Grifoni made a motion to recommend approving the use of Tourism Development
Tax Promotion funds to support the Southeast USA Labor Day Cup Soccer Tournament, up to
a maximum of $12,000, and found that the expenditure promotes tourism. Second by Ms.
Kerns. The motion was carried unanimously, 7-0.
7.2. Recommendation to approve the use of the Tourism Development Tax Promotion funds to
support the upcoming Unified Cup Soccer Tournament (October 1-2 & 8-9, 2022), up to a
maximum of $18,000, and make a finding that these expenditures promote tourism.
Mr. Beirnes said this event will occur over two weekends, October 1-2 and the following weekend,
October 8-9. The recommendation is to approve the use of Tourism Development Tax Promotional
Funds to support the upcoming Unified Cup Soccer Tournament on October 1-2 and October 8-9, for
a maximum of $18,000 and to make a finding that these expenditures promote tourism. Based on the
timing of the total economic impact, $3.5 million room nights they projected at 1600, we lowered
that to 1,200 to align with the field rentals, which are $18,000 in field rentals. It’s the same
organizer, same event and same strong history.
Councilor Grifoni moved to recommend approving the use of Tourism Development Tax
Promotion funds to support the Unified Cup Soccer Tournament, up to a maximum of $18,000,
and found the expenditure promotes tourism. Second by Ms. Cox. The motion passed
unanimously, 7-0.
7.3. Recommendation to approve the use of the Tourism Development Tax Promotion funds to
support the upcoming Doral Gold Cup Soccer Tournament (November 5-6, 2022), up to a
maximum of $12,000, and make a finding that these expenditures promote tourism.
Mr. Beirnes said the third event’s dates are November 5th and 6th. This is a significant-sized event.
The recommendation is to approve the use of Tourist and Development Tax funds to support the
upcoming Doral Gold Cup Soccer Tournament on November 5 and 6, 2022, up to a maximum of
$12,000 and to make a finding that these expenditures promote tourism. The total economic impact
is $3.5 million and total room nights are projected at 1,200, which we lowered to 800 to match the
field rentals of $12,000.
Ms. Becker made a motion to recommend approval of the use of the Tourism Development Tax
Promotion funds to support the upcoming Doral Gold Cup Soccer Tournament (November 5-6,
2022), up to a maximum of $12,000, and found that the sponsorship expenditures promote
tourism. Second by Ms. Kerns. The motion passed unanimously, 7-0.
8. Old Business
None
9. Marketing Partner Reports
These reports (Marketing Partner Reports - Downs & St. Germain Research Group; Paradise
Advertising & Marketing, Inc.; Lou Hammond & Associates; Convention & Visitors Bureau PR
Team; Collier County Tax Collector - tourist tax collections; Miles Partners - Website Analytics,
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Digital & Social Media; Book Direct, JackRabbit Systems - online hotel booking systems; County
Museums) are provided to TDC members on a digital link to the County website. The Research Data
Services report will be presented monthly, and the other reports will be presented at TDC meetings
on an-as-needed basis. TDC members may request a presentation by the marketing partner
representative or by tourism staff at each TDC meeting.
Mr. Beirnes said it certainly has been an interesting couple of months. We are two days away from
having our marketing summit. For the last 2½ months we have internally been developing our
marketing plan and strategy, weighing things for the 2023 fiscal year. It was interesting to take a
look historically at where we were last year. A year ago, we made a prediction about increased
demand surge in ADR and we nailed it. But we weren’t sure what would happen in spring. A lot
has certainly happened, from a surge in gas prices and interesting challenges in travel, interest rates,
labor challenges and on., so we’ve got a lot of planning going on.
We will sit down with all our partners on Wednesday. We have about 100 people who will be
attending and it is a good dialogue back and forth. When you return in September, we’ll present our
marketing plan and then take it to the Board of County Commissioners for approval.
Over the last couple of months, there has been a normalcy of the average daily rate and we haven’t
seen the bottom fall out of anything. Occupancy has remained in close step and ADR is very close
to what it was last year. We were expecting to see a lot of red ink as we went into the summer and
haven’t seen that.
One of the most supportive elements is the Longwoods Sentiment Research, which came out last
week. It said 70% of those surveyed nationwide about traveling expressed a significant concern
about gas prices. Asked what they would do, they said they were going to travel a little closer to
home. We have already adapted that pivot within our marketing plan to target the drive-market for
Florida residents. A very small amount of people surveyed said they were canceling their
trips. What we did see in this survey was that there was an expressed intent to spend less on
entertainment, dining and food, but they did not say they were eliminating them. They were just
going to pull back. That bodes very well for us in the travel and tourism industry.
We are looking for when people say, “No, it’s beyond my capacity to travel.” People use summer to
connect with families and that resonates strong enough to carry us through. If Longwood Sentiment
Research proves it, it really does indicate that people are still coming out of the pandemic and are
feeling the importance of travel, so we are continuing to monitor everything.
If you received the Sunday paper, Parade magazine made a reference to the popularity of pickleball
everywhere and one line, which refers to Ellen DeGeneres, says, “I’m absolutely obsessed with it.”
The article also noted that Naples calls itself the Pickleball Capital of the World, so we had a little
bit of a cameo nationwide, which is an encouraging sign.
Part 1. Marketing Partner Report
A. Downs & St. Germain Research Group – Joseph St. Germain
“Collier County Tourism Research – June 2022 Visitor Tracking and Economic Impact Study”
[Mr. St. Germain detailed a PowerPoint presentation.]
Ms. Becker said she had an observation. Looking at the percentages of travelers in the various
airports, all the airports at the top service multiple airlines, except for the Punta Gorda Airport,
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which just services one. Yet it’s the same percentage as Fort Lauderdale. And just below Miami,
this is an angle we haven’t looked at before. It does have something to do with choices of direct
flights.
Ms. Cox thanked Mr. St. Germain for adding 2019 to add comparison, which tells a story and
hopefully, we gained some new tourists over the last couple of years, even as new options became
available. What are your thoughts on some of that slow down? We’re starting to see a
normalization of demand that is going to eventually affect ADR. Could you add a 2019 reference
point on our monthly occupancy, ADR and RevPAR breakdown? There could be a tendency for us
to see a downward trend and think the sky is falling, but it’s not. It’s normalizing. So that might be
useful historically.
Mr. Beirnes said a lot of you received our Star Report. During the pandemic, they were comparing
it to multiple years, not just 2020. He’s about to reach out to Smith Travel and will ask to add 2019.
We set all-time records in 2022 and we didn’t want to be just comparing it to 2019. We wanted to
frame it up. But you’re right. He’s about to reach out to Smith Travel to have them add 2019 and
even 2018 so we can see some historical growth and not just be fearful. It has been an interesting
path. 2019 was record a year, and 2020. We did all right in 2021 and we set an all-time record in
2022. It’s hard to compare where we are.
Ms. Cox said that was her thought and as someone involved in driving top-line revenues, it’s good
to remember 2019 was a historic high and a super profitable year for this destination, so it’s really
good to compare that.
B. Paradise Advertising – Joseph Taylor
Mr. Beirnes said that as we go to Paradise Advertising, he wants to frame up two things. One is
international travel. As Joseph just mentioned, coming out of IPW, there was certainly still a pent-up
demand that came out of our conversation with IPW, but there was a bit of an epiphany that
happened and that was kind of ignored by a lot of us, which was that borders opened up on
November 8, 2021. By that time, domestic travel had already been taking off, so by the time the
borders opened up for international, there already was an escalated ADR.
The occupancy had really been snapped up and the more conversations he had with the County’s
international reps and tour operators, he was reminded that a lot of international travelers either
couldn’t get the occupancy when they wanted or they weren’t willing to because the prices had gone
so high – and yet that savings remained. The pent-up demand is even stronger, and now they are
snapping at flights and availability earlier than ever. He’s hopeful that we can take advantage of that
pent-up demand that remains to maybe compound or expand beyond the normal visitation
windows. And as, Ms. Cox says, we’re always setting new thresholds.
The reality is that if we’re only focusing on those peak periods, there’s very limited occupancy.
We’ve really tapped that out repeatedly as we go into 2023. Planning is one of the things that we’re
really focusing on and how we can really drive the shoulder season. It has always been something
we’ve talked about, but it needs to be really a compressed focus. We have an unlimited potential
because we have such a delta between that and what happens in January and February.
Some great momentum has continued over the last couple of months. You have helped us administer
a lot of our Arts and Culture Grants and the amount of activity and focus has been remarkable. The
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way the arts and culture community has rallied together has been second to none. It is so exciting
and we rolled out the official name last week to the committee and everybody jumped at it. It’s ¡Arté
Viva!, which is a celebration of Hispanic arts and culture across Collier County.
Paradise Advertising is now developing the logo for that. They’ve developed 10 that we have to
choose from. The event kicks off in October.
[Mr. Taylor detailed a PowerPoint presentation, “Advertising Report – June 2022”]
Ms. Brock said under the paid Google search, why would you eliminate the Panhandle on Google
Ads?
Mr. Taylor said the marketing team looked at the statistics and, historically, those haven’t been the
highest-converting ads. They weren’t the best performing. There are also national campaigns that
would capture some of those other geographic regions, but for Florida specifically, those efforts
didn’t include the Panhandle this time around, just based on previous performance.
Mr. Beirnes said what excited us about the iHeart promo is the ability to build our Florida database
with another 6,000 names.
C. Lou Hammond Group – Terry Gallagher
“National Public Relations Update – TDC Meeting – Services Conducted in June 2022”
[Mr. Gallagher detailed a PowerPoint presentation]
Mr. Beirnes said that Terry will be coming here to be part of our marketing summit on
Wednesday.
Part 2. Marketing Partner Reports
D. Collier County Tourist Tax Collections – Paul Beirnes
[Mr. Beirnes detailed a PowerPoint presentation, “Tourist Tax Collections – June 30, 2022”]
Chairman Solis said that almost sounds too good to be true with that data.
Mr. Beirnes said it went through the roof. It exploded.
Chairman Solis said, So last month, it was 50%?
Mr. Beirnes said it was. Even if you add year-to-date, we’re slightly ahead of last year.
Chairman Solis said, So it will still be ahead.
Mr. Beirnes said it’s always good to be cautious.
E. Miles Media – Enriqueta Balandra
Paradise.com Web Analytics Report – June 2022 - PowerPoint presentation
[Ms. Balandra detailed a PowerPoint presentation.]
Mr. Beirnes said that Enriqueta has focused on a lot of data in four minutes. During the week, we
spent of a lot of hours on those slides. Content is king. We need to be out there with lots of
content, depth of content and be much more strategic to compel visitors. We deep dove to
demonstrate that that is, indeed, happening. We have challenged ourselves to pull it up even
stronger and have enhanced our creative content. There’s a lot of behind-the-scenes action that
goes into this. We definitely need to look at ADR and compression.
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F. Paradise Coast Sports Complex/Sports Facilities Companies – David Wasson, Sports
Facilities Manager
Mr. Wasson said they’ve seen 110,000 people pass through the gates from January through June
of this year, a 110% increase over the same period last year. We’re excited about what we’ve seen
so far in 2022.
[Mr. Wasson detailed a PowerPoint presentation.]
Ms. Becker told him to keep up the good work.
Chairman Solis asked if the weather cooperated with the FBU opening ceremonies.
Mr. Wasson said it did, but they had to push it back 90 minutes and they had about 6,000 people in
the stadium between the participants and their families lined up in the stadium and the berms. Those
first two days of Top Gun were rainy days, lightning-filled days, but the final days were lighting free
and rain free. So hopefully, we can have that all the time.
G. County Museums – Amanda Townsend, Director, Collier County Museums
Ms. Townsend said she wanted to do something different this month. She usually gives a
presentation on visitation, where people are from and what temporary exhibits are going on, which is
very operational in nature. But some TDC members might not know about the museums, our vision,
strategy and projects we’re working on, so she won’t provide visitor stats this month and will come
back in September with a couple of months’ worth. This month, she wanted to provide an overview
of the museum division and detail the projects going on and the great partnerships in the community,
and how we’re very successful with grant funding. She wasn’t sure the TDC was aware of all that.
[Ms. Townsend detailed a PowerPoint presentation]
Chairman Solis said he thought he heard her mention a cemetery.
Ms. Townsend said the Museums Division oversees Rosemary Cemetery, which is by the CVS on
the south side of Pine Ridge by U.S. 41.
Chairman Solis said he drives by there every day.
Mr. Beirnes said he always learns something new when he’s around Amanda.
10. Council Member Discussion
Chairman Solis said he’s trying to be constructive and asked what they were trying to convey
with ¡Arté Viva!, the name of the Hispanic arts festival. Because the translation depends on what
you want to say. Arts Live should be ¡Arté de Vivo!
Mr. Beirnes said he was told it was arts coming alive through all our participants. The team
relied on Spanish speakers to arrive at that name, arts coming alive through culture.
Chairman Solis said he’s trying to make sure they aren’t incorrect. If you say ¡Viva Arté!, it’s
hurray for the arts, or something like that. If you want to say “arts live,” it would be ¡Arté de Vivo!,
with an “O” at the end.
Mr. Beirnes thanked him and said he’d address that within 24 hours.
Mr. Melleky said when they were looking at a name for the Hispanic Arts & Culture program, there
were a couple of things they looked into and considered about 60 names. They wanted something
that could easily be said and easily understandable, and it kind of represents something that is
celebratory, and also it could be something that might not always be grammatically correct, but
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could be some type of Spanglish. For instance, in Miami there’s a festival called Hispanicize, which
is not a word, but that is a way to celebrate the Hispanic culture. So, we thought ¡Arté Viva! allows
us to really kind of celebrate live arts but also be celebratory because of that “viva.”
Chairman Solis said perfect. As someone who grew up speaking Spanglish his whole life, he gets it.
He just wanted to make sure that was the thought process. The other question he had involves
numbers. In the conveying industry, we look at business cycle trend lines, a 312 and a 212 shows
where things are in the business cycle, so that manufacturers can make informed decisions about
inventory. Is that something we should be looking at in terms of the data we’re being presented or is
that something you’re looking at internally?
Mr. Beirnes said they definitely will. In our next planning meeting, we’re going to look at all the
curves, the vacation planning cycle, some of the influences and pressure on meetings, But we wanted
to provide an additional number of “gut checks” because nothing is normal anymore and we have to
compare it against a lot of different factors.
Chairman Solis said that month-to-month is one thing, but if you’re looking at a five-year term and
a running average and coming up with categories that will be meaningful, such as occupancy, ADR,
so that you could tell if you’re on an upswing, reaching the top or are we on a downswing?
Mr. Beirnes said that was a great suggestion.
Chairman Solis said Ms. Cox mentioned looking at it with a longer lens.
Ms. Cox agreed and said she thought she understood seasonal tourist markets, but Collier County is
seasonal on steroids, but in the last two years, it has really smoothed out. She was glad to hear Paul
say we’re going to start digging into the shoulder-season and longer periods, the long lines and the
past five Junes, which tells a longer, different story.
11. Tourism Staff Reports - Director
[Submitted]
Mr. Beirnes said the TDC will take a break in August and will return on September 26. He will be
sending a report in the middle of August and they can feel free to look at it.
12. Detailed Staff Reports
[Submitted]
13. Next Scheduled Meeting Date/Location – 9 a.m. September 26, 2022
Collier County Government Center, Administration Building F, 3rd Floor,
3299 East Tamiami Trail, Naples, Florida 34112
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by
order of the Chair at 10:38 p.m.
COLLIER COUNTY TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL
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Chairman: Commissioner Andy Chairman Solis
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