Agenda 12/13/2022 Item # 2A (BCC Minutes from November 8,2022)12/13/2022
COLLIER COUNTY
Board of County Commissioners
Item Number: 2.A.1
Doc ID: 24093
Item Summary: November 8, 2022 - BCC Meeting Minutes
Meeting Date: 12/13/2022
Prepared by:
Title: Sr. Operations Analyst – County Manager's Office
Name: Geoffrey Willig
12/07/2022 2:15 PM
Submitted by:
Title: Deputy County Manager – County Manager's Office
Name: Amy Patterson
12/07/2022 2:15 PM
Approved By:
Review:
County Manager's Office Geoffrey Willig County Manager Review Completed 12/07/2022 2:15 PM
Board of County Commissioners Geoffrey Willig Meeting Pending 12/13/2022 9:00 AM
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TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Naples, Florida November 8, 2022
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County
Commissioners, in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as
the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such
special districts as have been created according to law and having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00 a.m., in
REGULAR SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex,
East Naples, Florida, with the following Board members present:
Chairman: William L. McDaniel, Jr.
Rick LoCastro
Burt L. Saunders
Andy Solis
Penny Taylor
ALSO PRESENT:
Amy Patterson, County Manager
Daniel Rodriguez, Deputy County Manager
Jeffrey A. Klatzkow, County Attorney
Crystal K. Kinzel, Clerk of the Circuit Court & Comptroller
Troy Miller, Communications & Customer Relations
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MS. PATTERSON: Chair, you have a live mic.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yes, that's the ultimate goal
here.
Good morning, everybody.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay. There we go. We at
least have one.
Commissioner Taylor, good morning.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And, Commissioner Solis?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: This is a monumentous
occasion for you two.
So before we do anything, as is usually the case, we're going
to call for the invocation. Father Tom Thoeni of St.
Episcopal -- St. Paul's Episcopal Church will lead us in prayer, if
you'll all rise, please.
Item #1A
INVOCATION BY FATHER TOM THOENI OF ST. PAUL'S
EPISCOPAL CHURCH - INVOCATION GIVEN
FATHER THOENI: Let us pray.
Almighty God, send down upon these County
Commissioners the spirit of wisdom, charity, and justice; that
with steadfast purpose, they may faithfully serve in their offices
to promote the well-being of all people. And, Almighty God, to
whom we must account for all our powers and privileges, guide
the people of the United States and this community in the
election of officials and representatives; that by faithful
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administration and wise laws, the rights of all may be protected,
and our nation and communities may be enabled to fulfill your
purposes.
We ask this in your holy name, amen.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And I'm torn, because -- why
don't Commissioner Taylor and Commissioner Solis both lead --
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Commissioner Taylor.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: -- both lead us this morning.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Commissioner Taylor.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Well, ladies -- Commissioner
Taylor, please.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Did you notice he still calls
me a lady? Right? He hasn't graduated to this century yet.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: No.
(The Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And which century are we in?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: (Inaudible.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay. Well, that was an
on-purpose question.
All right. County Manager, you want to lead us off, or do
you want me to muddle along here? I think our next move is to
approve the agenda.
Item #2A
APPROVAL OF TODAY'S REGULAR, CONSENT AND
SUMMARY AGENDA AS AMENDED (EX PARTE
DISCLOSURE PROVIDED BY COMMISSION MEMBERS FOR
CONSENT AGENDA.) - MOTION TO APPROVE BY
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL; SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO - APPROVED AND/OR ADOPT
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W/CHANGES
MS. PATTERSON: Yes, Commissioner. I'll take you
through the agenda changes.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yes. So we'll start with
Commissioner Solis. Do you have any adjustments to the
agenda or ex parte?
MS. PATTERSON: Chair, we have a number of agenda
changes before we go --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Oh, well, then you go ahead
and do yours.
MS. PATTERSON: Sorry. Okay. We have several
agenda changes today. The first is add-on Item 11N. This is a
recommendation to authorize a budget amendment and accept the
State Housing Initiative Partnership Disaster Assistance award in
the amount of $344,700 to assist eligible Collier County
households whose primary residence sustained damage as a result
of Hurricane Ian to pay their insurance deductibles and authorize
one primary full-time employee, SHIP grant funded. This is at
staff's request.
We have an add-on Item 4G, proclamation declaring
November 8th, 2022, as the Tzu Chi Foundation Day in Collier
County. This is being added at Commissioner Taylor's request.
We're continuing Item 11A to the December 13th, 2022,
BCC meeting. This item was continued from September 27th as
well. This is a recommendation to approve the Cycle 11A
Conservation Collier Active Acquisition List and direct staff to
pursue projects recommended within the A category in sequential
order funded by Conservation Collier Land Acquisition Fund,
and this is being continued at Commissioner McDaniel's request.
Continue Item 11H to a future board meeting. This is a
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recommendation to accept an update as to the implementation of
the East Naples Development Plan and the U.S. 41 Zoning
Overlay designed to add design standards in accordance with the
plan's recommendations. This is being moved at Commissioner
LoCastro's request.
Move Item 16A6 to become Item 11O. This is a
recommendation that the Board of County Commissioners accept
an after-the-fact donation of sand and sand transportation and
delivery from Stewart Materials and Rapid Trucking,
respectively, received by Collier County in advance of Hurricane
Ian's landfall in the total amount of $2,275.50. This is being
moved at Commissioner Saunders' request.
Move Item 16A11 to become 11P. This is a
recommendation to approve the cooperative procurement and use
of the Peninsula Suncoast Transit Authority Contract
No. 21-980369, Florida Electric transit buses with charging and
associated equipment for the purchase of 30, 35, and/or 40-foot
electric buses for the Collier Area Transit system. This is being
moved at Commissioner McDaniel's request.
One final note, 11M related to the proposed Rock the Red
USA event. We were notified that those -- that the event
sponsor is going to hold this at a private location; however, we
are proposing to leave Item 11M on the agenda so we can have
the discussion about the appropriate placement of events at the
sports complex, particularly those of large size and amplified
sound.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And in the event that they aren't
successful where they're going to go, they'll come back to the
park?
MS. PATTERSON: That's correct.
Second -- sorry. We also have one time-certain item.
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That's 11I to be heard at 11:00 a.m., and this is a recommendation
to approve a Collier County Tourist Development Council TDC
Category B promotional funds grants application for the U.S.
Pickleball -- Open Pickleball Championship for FY'23.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay.
MS. PATTERSON: With that, we have no other changes.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Now I can go to Commissioner
Solis.
MS. PATTERSON: Yes.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Good morning, sir.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Good morning. A quick
question: I don't see Item 9A on the change sheet. Did
something change?
MS. PATTERSON: No, no, sir, correct, but it was
published already with the continuance so it didn't have to go
onto the change sheet.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay.
MS. PATTERSON: But we can announce it if that -- at
your pleasure. That's Item 9B, 9A and 9B, both are the zoning
and land-use petitions relative to the siting of the David
Lawrence Center. They failed -- they were continued by the
Planning Commission, and there was no quorum at the date that it
was continued to; therefore, the item did not make its way out of
the Planning Commission and had to be continued off of this
agenda to a future date to be determined.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Well, since it's my turn, I'm
going to say something.
You know, five years ago we started a community process to
bring together the stakeholders in the community to try to do
things differently in Collier County because we can and we
should. And that culminated in this board approving
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unanimously the Mental Health and Addiction Strategy Plan, the
number-one priority of which was the construction of a central
receiving facility.
That was a promise to the community. It was a promise to
families, to children, to the business community, the schools. I
mean, it was a promise that I feel that the Board made to the
community, and, unfortunately, this was continued. I'm not sure
why it was continued at this point, but it was -- it was continued,
so it won't be heard today. And I won't be here to continue to
start the cheers and at least do what I can do to make this happen.
So I'm asking the Board to, you know, make good on that
promise. We need to make good on the promise that we made to
the community. So having said that -- and I hope the next Board
does that, because it's that important.
Having said that, I have no other changes to the agenda
or -- and I have no disclosures on the consent agenda or the
summary agenda.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Mr. Chairman, I know
this is a little bit out of order, but can I make a comment on --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Of course, because I'm gonna
when -- unless you have something else to say.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Yeah. I just want to
make a comment on what Commissioner Solis had said and,
obviously, this is his last meeting.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Right.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: But I just want to say that
we would not be talking about mental health issues had it not
been for Commissioner Solis. We would have perhaps had some
conversations, some discussions, but we would never have gotten
into the real important issues and solutions to the mental health
problems in this community and the impact of those problems on
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our Sheriff's Department and on our jail and, more importantly,
on our citizens, those that are suffering from mental illness and
those that have to deal with their family members or their
neighbors or other folks that are suffering from that.
So I just want to, for the record, say we would not be here
talking about this issue, the Planning Commission would not
have a zoning issue to be dealing with, we would not have -- I
believe this is -- is it $20 million --
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Twenty-five.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: -- $25 million in the bank
to fund this had it not been for Commissioner Solis. So I just
wanted to make that record very clear.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And I, again, wanted -- I
wanted to say as well, our County Manager shared it was more
semantics than anything for the continuance. The Planning
Commission was -- had an enormously long hearing on this, and
then they weren't able to attain --
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: They really didn't, but we can
talk about that some other time.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Comme si, comme ça. They
weren't able to make a quorum on the last vote. I also, like
Commissioner Saunders, want to thank you. Early in my tenure
as County Commissioner, I knew we had an opioid pandemic
going on around us, and so I was in Tallahassee, and I was in DC.
I was with the folks in HHS talking -- because one of the things
that we need is money. We need to have money in order to
support this.
And so I'm talking to the southeast representative of HHS,
and she says, well, Commissioner, what's your mental health plan
say about this and this and this?
Well, I don't know. But when I find -- you know, I'll get the
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answer for you. And a little bit later on in the conversation, she
said, Commissioner, what's your mental health plan say about
that, that, and that?
And I'm like, well, I'm not sure, ma'am, but when I get those
reviewed, I'll come back to you. Well, as soon as I got out of
that meeting, I called our then County Manager, and I said, what's
our mental health plan say about this, this, and this? And what's
our mental health plan say about that, that, and that? We didn't
have a mental health plan.
And from me to you, thank you because, as Commissioner
Saunders said, if you hadn't of grabbed onto that and pushed
through, joined the community, brought the community leaders
together and developed that mental health plan, we wouldn't be
having this conversation today about that expansion, so...
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Thanks. I appreciate it.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: While you're going away, feel
somewhat at peace that though the job's not done, we wouldn't be
here today if it hadn't have been for your efforts. And that's a
thank you from me.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Appreciate it. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All right.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I'll add something real
quick. Mental health's very important to me, and I really
respected what Commissioner Solis has done. What I would say
is, unless you're moving to North Korea, I think you're still a
citizen. So if you think that the county, this commission is
definitely not following what I certainly agree with what you
have started and championed, I expect to see you at that
podium -- you only have three minutes -- but I hope you will
continue. And I know you will continue to be an involved active
citizen and not let all of the great things that you have
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championed die by others' hands.
And so, I look forward to continuing to get your counsel,
your mentorship, your advice to this committee as a citizen,
because it's just as valuable, and it's respected and appreciated.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Thank you. I'll be around.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Oh, no, I didn't mean that.
Did you see how Commissioner Saunders took away five million
from your project already? It went to 20 million. Did
everybody catch that? We're already making changes.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: There's a reason that the
majority of taxpayers in this county agreed to tax themselves for
this mental health receivings facility. It's because of your work,
sir. It's because you had the courage to bring awareness to this
unspoken illness that affects all of us in one way or another.
And it is a testimony to the will of the people that this goes
through because they have spoken. They've decided they're
going to tax themselves.
So we are on the cutting edge of so much in this country. I
remember campaigning for the sales tax where, Commissioner
McDaniel, you were sitting in the audience, and I remember
someone saying, oh, this isn't about -- we don't really need a
mental health facility, and I believe it was at the public library at
Orange Blossom, and people stood and up said what?
And I remember again and again, Commissioner McDaniel,
how you talked about the Sheriff needs this. This costs us
money. If we don't do this, this is going to cost us more money.
The Sheriff needs that, and I'll never forget that.
So the table's set. And you and I, sir, are going to sit and
watch, and hopefully the right decision is made. But thank you.
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Thank you for your advocacy.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Thanks.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And you're absolutely correct,
Commissioner. I had the honor of riding with our Sheriff after
the Christmas parade the first year in '16, a month after I was
elected. And even though -- even though there's a dumb look on
my face, I am paying attention while people are talking. And as
Kevin's riding me back to my car, he announces that he's in
charge of the largest mental institution in Collier County, and
that's our jail. No less than 30 percent and oftentimes higher
than 50 percent of that population is suffering from some type of
mental wellness issue or substance abuse.
And that's when I started on the road for the money, hunting
the money in Tallahassee and D.C., and then you grabbed on
and -- because without a plan, you're lost. And so thank you,
again, sir. We won't belabor that. Well, we might belabor it
some more.
But, Commissioner LoCastro, how are you doing this
morning, sir?
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I'm doing great. I have
no changes and no disclosures.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Wow. Outstanding.
How about Commissioner Saunders?
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I have no disclosure and
no changes as well.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And, Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I have no disclosures, and
I'd like to move 16F1 to the regular agenda, please.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And what, pray tell, is that?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I'm sorry, 16F4. Pardon
me. I misspoke.
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CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: F4. Somebody read that off.
I don't have the agenda. My computer went.
MS. PATTERSON: 16F4 is a recommendation to receive
information concerning an agreement between United Soccer
Leagues, LLC, and PARA SFM, LLC, concerning negotiating
rights for a potential stadium-use agreement at the Paradise Coast
Sports Complex. This will become Item 11Q.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I'm okay with that. And I,
myself, have no disclosures nor any changes.
So with that, I'll call for a motion for the acceptance and
approval of the agenda as has been amended.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So move.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Second.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and seconded
that we accept the agenda as has been amended. Any other
discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved.
Now, simply because I'm the Chair, and we've just accepted
the agenda, I'm going to adjust it. And before we go forward,
we have a couple of presentations that I would like to do. And
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so if the Board would join me, please, we're going to go down
front here. And we have a couple of prizes for our colleagues.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: A what?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: A couple of prizes for our
colleagues.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Prizes. I get a watch.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I'm getting into the prize box.
We're going to put a rose between a bunch of thorns first, in
the middle, and this is for our esteemed colleague, Commissioner
Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And it's in grateful appreciation
for years of outstanding leadership, service, and devotion to the
citizens of Collier County and her tenure here.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you.
(Applause.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I'd allow you a speech, but I
know you'd take advantage, so no speeches.
You get a picture of us yet there, dear.
Now, Commissioner Taylor, if you would switch with
Commissioner Solis.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: My tie is all messed up. Hold
on.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: What a pretty tie. It's got a
little paisley thing going on. Talk about what century we're in.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No, that's nice.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Is that coming back?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I waited long enough, and
they're back in style.
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Very fashionable.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And again, this is
Commissioner Solis' last actual formal duty as a commissioner
and a board. And in grateful appreciation for your years of
outstanding leadership, service, and devotion to the citizens of
Collier.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Thank you.
(Applause.)
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Get my paisley tie straight.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: There we go. Thank you.
Thank you both very much.
All right. We have some proclamations.
*****
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Item #2B
OCTOBER 11, 2022, BCC MEETING MINUTES - MOTION TO
APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL; SECONDED BY
COMMISSIONER LOCASTRO - APPROVED AS PRESENTED
MS. PATTERSON: first, Item 2B, we need a motion to
approve the October 11th, 2022, BCC meeting minutes.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Oh, yes, yes, yes. Forgive me.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So move.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Second.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and seconded
we accept the minutes from our October 11th meeting. Any
discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved.
Now we can do the proclamations.
Item #4
PROCLAMATIONS (ONE MOTION TAKEN TO ADOPTED ALL
PROCLAMATIONS) - MOTION TO ADOPT ALL
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PROCLAMATION BY COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS;
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER TAYLOR
Item #4A
PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING NOVEMBER 10, 2022, AS
DIABETES AWARENESS DAY IN COLLIER COUNTY AND TO
RECOGNIZE THE ACHIEVEMENTS OF JOHN REISMAN.
ACCEPTED BY TAMI BALAVAGE AND JULIA REISMAN -
ADOPTED
MS. PATTERSON: Yes. Item 4A is a proclamation
designating November 10th, 2022, as Diabetes Awareness Day in
Collier County and to recognize the achievements of John
Reisman. To be accepted by Tami Balavage and Julia Reisman.
(Applause.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: You're the actual recipient?
MS. BALAVAGE: Her father.
MS. REISMAN: I could say a few words.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: We'll get you in a moment.
You've got to get your picture took.
MS. REISMAN: Well, I just wanted to say -- okay, okay,
okay.
Hello, everybody. Thank you so much. It's an honor to be
here today. My name is Julia Reisman. I accepted this
proclamation on behalf of my father, John Reisman.
Both of us live with Type 1 diabetes, and it's an honor to be
here today representing Help a Diabetic Child, which is a
non-profit here in Naples primarily serving Collier County
children and young adults who are struggling emotionally and
financially with their Type 1 diabetes.
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I'm very grateful for Tami, my boss, founder of Help a
Diabetic Child and my father who, with their, you know, gracious
appreciation for the cause and generous funding, we are able to
serve over 3,000 children in Florida and across the United States
to ease the burden for them emotionally and financially. So I
want to thank all of our commissioners and each and every one of
you here today. So thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Thank you, Julia.
(Applause.)
Item #4B
PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING NOVEMBER 13 -19, 2022, AS
INTERNATIONAL FRAUD - AWARENESS WEEK IN COLLIER
COUNTY. ACCEPTED BY MIKE HARDER, RUBEN RAMOS,
AND ROBIN SHELEY - ADOPTED
MS. PATTERSON: Item 4B is a proclamation designating
November 13th through 19th, 2022, as International Fraud
Awareness Week in Collier County. To be accepted by Mike
Harder, Ruben Ramos, and Robin Sheley.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: There they are.
(Applause.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Do you want to say a few
words?
MS. SHELEY: Not really. We would like to get the whole
group up.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: The whole group. Come on,
kids.
There you go. How about that? Thank you all very much
for doing what you do.
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(Applause.)
Item #4C
PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING NOVEMBER 16 – 23, 2022,
AS FARM-CITY WEEK IN COLLIER COUNTY. ACCEPTED
BY THE FARM CITY BBQ BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND
ORGANIZING COMMITTEE – ADOPTED
MS. PATTERSON: Item 4C is a proclamation designating
November 16th through 23rd, 2022, as Farm-City Week in
Collier County. To be accepted by the Farm-City Barbecue
board of directors and organizing committee.
(Applause.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I haven't seen you in a minute.
How are you?
MS. KRIER: Commissioners, thank you. For the record,
I'm Ellie Krier, and I'm representing the Farm-City Barbecue
board director of directors as well as our receiving charities,
which would be Youth Leadership Collier, Collier County Junior
Deputies, Kiwanis, 4H, and the Immokalee Foundation.
This proclamation represents the support that we all in this
community give to agriculture, and we appreciate your doing this
for us. However, you may already know that we did cancel
Farm-City Barbecue this year. At the time, it was a very
difficult decision. We were all set to be in Cambier Park, and
Cambier Park was unable to host us due to the hurricane.
Beyond that, multiple members of our event committee and
our volunteer boards of directors lost their homes, law
enforcement was stressed to the limit, and we felt, on behalf of
the Farm-City Barbecue board of directors, that it was just not the
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right time to be throwing a celebratory party for agriculture,
although we will continue to support it.
So I am here today to tell you that November 22nd, 2023, we
will be back bigger and better. We look forward to your
support. We look to those of you who are there to serve with us,
and thank you again.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Absolutely. Thank you, Ellie.
(Applause.)
Item #4D
PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING NOVEMBER 2022 AS
NATIONAL HOSPICE AND PALLIATIVE CARE MONTH.
ACCEPTED BY THE FOLLOWING REPRESENTATIVES OF
AVOW HOSPICE, NAPLES, FLORIDA: MARK BELAND,
COMMUNITY LIAISON, KERRI ERVIN, CHIEF COMPLIANCE
OFFICER, PHYLLIS HALL, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER,
JEFFREY ALEXANDER, DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS
DEVELOPMENT, AND REBECCA GATIAN, CHIEF CLINICAL
OFFICER - ADOPTED
MS. PATTERSON: Item 4D is a proclamation designating
November 2022 as National Hospice and Palliative Care Month.
To be accepted by the following representatives of Avow
Hospice, Naples, Florida: Mark Beland, community liaison;
Jeffrey Alexander, director of business development; and
Rebecca Gatian, chief clinical officer.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Do you want to say a few
words?
MR. ALEXANDER: Good morning. On behalf of Avow,
I'd like to say thank you very much for continuing to support our
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mission. We currently are celebrating our 40th anniversary of
servicing the Collier County area for hospice and palliative care.
We currently have about 550 patients that we take care of on a
daily basis in one of those two programs. And without the
support of the community for events like Startenders tonight,
5:00 to 6:00, Bone Hook, a little plug for Annalise, without those
kinds of things and the community being so supportive, we
wouldn't be nearly as successful as we are with helping with
end-of-life care. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Thank you.
(Applause.)
Item #4E
PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING NOVEMBER 2022 AS
FAMILY COURT AWARENESS MONTH IN COLLIER
COUNTY. ACCEPTED BY JESSICA FENSTER - ADOPTED
MS. PATTERSON: Item 4E is a proclamation designating
November 2022 as Family Court Awareness Month in Collier
County. This proclamation will be mailed to the recipient.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: There we are. I have it here,
just so you know.
Item #4F
PROCLAMATION DECLARING NOVEMBER 22, 2022, AS
SENATE PRESIDENT PASSIDOMO DAY IN COLLIER
COUNTY – ADOPTED
MS. PATTERSON: Item 4F is a proclamation declaring
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November 22, 2022, as Senate President Passidomo Day in
Collier County. Represented today by her husband, John
Passidomo, and her daughter, Francesca Passidomo. A framed
copy will also be presented to Senate President Passidomo at the
Collier County Senate legislative delegation meeting on
December 6th.
(Applause.)
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Give her a hug.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: That's what we like.
(Applause.)
MS. PASSIDOMO: Good morning. Francesca Passidomo,
daughter of Kathleen Passidomo, here with my father, John
Passidomo.
My mom has made a commitment, when she asked to
assume leadership of the Florida Senate three years ago, to bring
back a supermajority to drive her Republican caucus' legislative
agenda from 2022 through 2024.
And true to her word, my mom is somewhere on an I-4
offramp this morning dodging a semi-trailer, trucks,
enthusiastically waving campaign signs urging passing motorists
to vote for her Senate colleagues.
Mom has, therefore, asked me and Dad to tell you how
honored she is to receive this truly extraordinary recognition and
how disappointed she is that she cannot be here personally due to
her prior commitment.
Mom spent 30 years -- and I've personally seen this and
experienced this -- fighting local, civic community, and
charitable causes while raising three mischievous daughters, with
some help from my dad, and managing a thriving law practice
before her 2010 election to the Florida House.
This service prepared my mom to serve the people of Collier
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County and the rest of Southwest Florida and the Florida Senate.
It daily reminds her, and I also can tell you this with all certainty,
that she is beholden to the people of Collier County for the
unique position of trust that she is now in.
I know she looks forward to vigorously working with the
Board of County Commissioners over the next two years to prove
herself worthy of that trust. Again, thank you on behalf of the
entire Passidomo family. On behalf of my mom, Kathleen
Passidomo, we are so deeply honored and grateful.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Thank you, Francesca.
(Applause.)
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Before you leave, if --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: They're not leaving. They're
just going to sit down. Do you want them standing?
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: No, that's okay. I just
didn't want you to walk out of the room just quite yet, because I
wanted to say a couple words and why I thought this was so
important to do this.
Most people don't realize how important of a position the
Senate president is in the State of Florida. I like to say it's the
second most powerful position in the state. Some people say it's
the third most powerful behind the Speaker of the House.
But I think the Senate president is a much more powerful
position. And we've only had three Senators who have resided
in the City of Naples, or in Collier County, and I think in the
whole history of the State of Florida.
I was the first one. I didn't get anywhere in the Senate.
Then Garret Richter became the next Senator, and he became the
senator pro tem, which is sort of like the vice chairman of the
Senate, and now we have Senator Passidomo, who will be the
Senate president.
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And what that means is, she will control the agenda for the
State of Florida for the next two years. She will have a
tremendous amount of say in what happens over the next two
years out of Tallahassee. That's good for Collier County because
she lives here. But, more importantly, that's great for the State
of Florida.
I served under five Senate presidents, I've worked under five
or six more Senate presidents since I got out of the Senate, and I
can tell you without any reservations, Senator Passidomo will be,
by far, the best Senate president this state has ever had. And I
say that --
(Applause.)
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: And I say that, really in
all seriousness, because she loves this county, she loves this state,
and I know she is fully dedicated to doing the best things for this
state. And I've listened to her speeches, and I can tell you, she's
going to be a tremendous leader.
So we're all proud to have her representing us. And
November 22nd, just for the public consumption, we've
designated that as Senator Passidomo Day in Collier County.
That's the day she becomes the Senate President. Very
significant, and thank you for sharing your mother and sharing
your wife with us.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Thank you very much.
(Applause.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Andy, you want to say a word?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yeah. I just wanted to say,
you know, we are so blessed to have Kathleen Passidomo as part
of our community.
At one time as a young lawyer, I was law partners with
Kathleen, and it's not surprising to me that she is now the Senate
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president because of the way just -- she is with people. I mean,
she's just a -- you know, I learned a lot, I think, as a young lawyer
just being around her. The energy, the way that she related to
people, especially to me. I mean, it -- she was always upbeat
and looking to the future, and we're just so blessed to have her
give up her time and time with her family to pursue this, and
great things to come even still. So thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay. Commissioner
LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I want to add something a
little bit different. I think it goes without saying all the things
that Senator Passidomo has done and represents this community.
But Mr. Passidomo, John, I just want to say -- I want to
recognize you as well. You know, you've been sort of
the -- maybe the quiet [sic] action-oriented person in Collier
County, and I've worked with you on a few things. And I've also
seen, even well before I was a commissioner, how involved
you've been in this community.
So, you know, you and your wife are an amazing
powerhouse, but I don't want it to be lost that, you know, while
she's up in Tallahassee getting all the accolades and the plaques
and everything like that you, my friend, sir, have just been an
incredible leader in this community, have rallied the troops, so to
say, you know, from my military background, and it has not gone
unnoticed. And so we need more citizens like you to step
forward and take action and do all the things that you have
accomplished together with your wife but also on your own. So
I commend you for all that you're doing in the community and the
people that you have pulled together to represent to have good
things happen right here in Collier County as a citizen. So thank
you, sir.
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CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Absolutely.
(Applause.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: In an effort to not repeat, I'm
just going to say thank you.
Before we go on, I'm going to announce the Artist of the
Month, if I may. I usually like to do that in advance before the
room clears out.
MS. PATTERSON: We have one more proclamation,
sorry. It's the add-on.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Oh, the add-on. Forgive me.
Item #4G
PROCLAMATION DECLARING NOVEMBER 8, 2022, AS TZU
CHI FOUNDATION DAY IN COLLIER COUNTY.
(COMMISSIONER TAYLOR’S REQUEST) – ADOPTED
MS. PATTERSON: Item 4G is a proclamation declaring
November 8th, 2022, as Tzu Chi Foundation Day in Collier
County. This will be accepted by Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you. Thank you.
Just for everyone's edification -- oh, that's good. Tzu Chi is
a worldwide Buddhist organization based on the East Coast.
Really, their base is Taiwan, and they have units all over the
world. And their whole purpose is to bring solace and cash to
people that are going through a disaster. And between Hurricane
Irma and Hurricane Ian, The Tzu Chi Foundation has brought
almost a million dollars to the needy citizens of this county.
They are an unbelievably giving and wonderful organization.
And we are very lucky to count them as friends. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Thank you, Commissioner
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Taylor.
(Applause.)
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioner, could we get a motion
to accept the proclamations.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: So moved.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Second.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and seconded
that we accept the proclamations as presented. Any other
discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved.
MS. PATTERSON: Now you can do Artist of the Month.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Now we'll do the Artist of the
Month.
In the back, on the walls in the back are the Artist of the
Month presentation. We welcome America's Military and First
Responders Museum as our November Artist of the Month.
Founded in 2006 by a group of veterans, it was operated as a
mobile display museum. In '11, the Naples Airport Authority
offered space, and the museum began to attract interest. The
Naples Airport is a fitting location for the museum, as it was
initially built for pilots training during World War II.
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More than 12,000 historical artifacts from a -- from the
Revolutionary War forward, such as weapons, uniforms, medals,
ribbons, and handwritten letters and posters have been generously
donated.
The museum now has an amazing opportunity for a new
building adjacent to the Naples Airport. The new space not only
allows the museum to properly display all the memorabilia but
honors those brave first responders who very often started their
career in the military and then pursued their second career
serving our local community.
The commitment to expand the vision is reflected in the
name "America's Military and First Responders' Museum." The
museum appreciates the public's dedicated support to honor our
military veterans, especially in these dynamic and uncertain
times.
And if you have a moment, please, before you go, please
take a look back there. There's some pretty interesting artwork,
so -- and with that, we'll go to our next presentation, I think.
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioners, if it's okay with all of
you, let's take the Business of the Month before we have Dan go
into his -- we'll just his flip 5A and 5B.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay.
Item #5B
PRESENTATION OF THE COLLIER COUNTY BUSINESS OF
THE MONTH FOR NOVEMBER 2022 TO GUADALUPE
CENTER. THE AWARD WILL BE ACCEPTED BY DAWN
MONTECALVO, PRESIDENT AND CEO. ALSO ATTENDING IS
BETHANY SAWYER, VICE PRESIDENT OF MEMBERSHIP,
THE GREATER NAPLES CHAMBER OF COMMERCE -
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PRESENTED
MS. PATTERSON: 5B is a presentation of the Collier
County Business of the Month for November 2022 to Guadalupe
Center. The award will be accepted by Dawn Montecalvo,
president and CEO; also attending is Bethany Sawyer, vice
president of membership with the Greater Naples Chamber of
Commerce. Mr. Dalby's here, too.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: If we all move, it will mess her
up.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Move to the right. Now
move to the left.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: This is her last day here.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: All right. We'll be good.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Dawn, are you going to say a
few words?
MS. MONTECALVO: Yes.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Or Michael, either one.
MS. MONTECALVO: Good morning, and thank you so
much for this honor. On behalf of the board of directors, the
children that we serve, and our teachers and staff at the
Guadalupe Center -- I've got to remember where I
work -- Guadalupe Center, I'd like to thank the Chamber of
Commerce and the Commissioners for this honor as Business of
the Month. So often nonprofits are not often thought of as
businesses, but we are. And the Guadalupe Center has been
serving Immokalee for nearly 40 years. We employ over 300
full-time and part-time employees, we serve more than 1,750
children in the community, and we have over a $12 million
budget. And so we're very proud to be one of the leading
businesses in Immokalee.
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We have the daunting mission to break the cycle of poverty,
and we have been doing that by providing high-quality education
to the children of Immokalee and making sure that we help them
meet the milestones they need. We start at the young age of six
weeks to five years in our early Childhood Education Program
where we serve 20 percent of the children under age five in
Immokalee.
We also have our K through 2, and we make sure that those
children are kindergarten-ready by the time they get into the
public schools. And then we serve our K through 2 students
where we serve over 850 children, making sure that they learn to
read. So by third grade, they're ready to learn. They can read to
learn.
And then we have our high school tutor core program, which
is a college preparatory program. We have 121 children in that
program that we make sure that they have the skills to go to
college and become first-generation college graduates. We
have -- and we stay with them through college. And we have a
94 percent college graduation rate, which we're very proud of.
So we appreciate your support. We have just opened up our
fourth campus in Immokalee, the van Otterloo campus for
learning this past June, and we invite you all to come see it. It's
state of the art. I put it up against any early learning center
in -- not only in the state but in the country. And so we hope
that you'll come out and visit us and see the great work that we're
doing.
And any questions, I'd be more than happy to --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Well, I have a comment,
though, as usual.
I want to thank you, Dawn. Dawn's the administrator for the
Guadalupe Center. Virtually everyone has heard about the
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Guadalupe Center and all the wonderful things they do for our
community. And we all just went through the horrific Ian
experience and just shortly five years after Irma came right up
through our midst.
Dawn was instrumental in -- because with Irma -- with Irma,
the inland communities are the ones that really took a hard hit.
Dawn had enough foresight to actually realize that the impacts of
Irma only exemplified the needs that Immokalee already, in fact,
had in advance, and she was instrumental. I helped assist a little
bit. I didn't do much, but I was on the peripheral, and
established the Unmet Needs Coalition of Immokalee and then
programmed certain studies and events to assist the community to
take care of those needs that were just exemplified by the storm.
The storm caused a lot of damage, but those needs existed
pre-Irma and such.
So, from me to you, all that you do for our community,
you're quite humble and don't tell everybody what it is that you're
doing, but I do see it, so thank you.
MS. MONTECALVO: Thank you for taking my calls.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yes, ma'am.
MS. MONTECALVO: I appreciate it. Thank you so
much.
(Applause.)
Item #5A
UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF HURRICANE IAN RECOVERY
EFFORTS IN COLLIER COUNTY.
MS. PATTERSON: Okay. Back to Item 5A. This is an
update on the status of Hurricane Ian recovery efforts in Collier
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County. Mr. Dan Summers, your director of the Bureau of
Emergency Services and Emergency Management -- I never get
it right -- is here to present.
MR. SUMMERS: Good morning. Dan Summers, your
director of Bureau of Emergency Services and Emergency
Management.
And I'm going to take a little risk here and jump outside the
swim lane and make two comments. Commissioner McDaniel,
first of all, spot on on issues and challenges that we have
pre-disaster and then what happens immediately after a disaster.
And I look at this room, and I have to tell you, it is always a
community teamwork and partnership.
I've worked with Dawn for years. Many of our
organizations that were here this morning, I just want to say
thank you, and thank you for understanding that our goal is to try
to throw gas on the fire and expand our forces and expand the
community's capability to respond. So I want to thank you for
making that point known.
And I'm always humbled to be up here because you've got
division directors and department heads and managers out in the
field that are out there busting their gut, as you know now, for 40
days to help put Collier County back together. And I always like
to thank them, and I know you thank them, for their hard work.
And then last, Commissioner Taylor and Commissioner
Solis, you have a standing invitation to join the rest of us with a
cold bologna sandwich any time you would like at the EOC, so I
have always appreciated your support --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you.
MR. SUMMERS: -- during those critical times, and thank
you very much for that.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well, that's quite an honor,
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because when you're on high alert and when you're getting things
going, you know, everybody's a team player. So thank you so
much --
MR. SUMMERS: Thank you for that.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: -- for that invitation.
MR. SUMMERS: Moving on real quick, again, our partner
agencies, our first and second responders that continue to be
heavily engaged. And also, you know, we have a lot of not only
our nonprofits but our churches. They're doing so much in the
community. We do our best to help coordinate them, facilitate
them, try to avoid duplication of effort, and where we have
resources, we continue to forward to those who -- again, our
thoughts and prayers with those that are heavily impacted.
Just a brief recap, I don't want to -- I'm not going into too
much length here. Obviously, our goals continue to be the same
with survivor assistance, our utility restoration, debris removal,
infrastructure assessment, transportation systems, and right
sizing. All of those objectives still remain in place. They take a
different flavor, a different flair each day as we go through the
recovery process.
I just want to highlight three items here that are underlined in
the Emergency Operations Center effort. Just because there's
not 86 people in the room operating right this minute doesn't
mean that the communication channels are not working hard.
We continue to work closely with National Red Cross, who's still
addressing shelter populations at the North Collier Regional Park.
That number of folks there this morning is 46. They continue to
work very hard to get folks placed.
And as you mentioned as well, we certainly are aware and
working with our non-profit partner agencies for many of those
that were pre-disaster homeless as well. So it's going to be a
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little bit of a challenge.
But FEMA's on site. The National Red Cross has provided
an incredible level, actually, of financial support as needed and
working on case management type activity to get everyone
settled back to pre-disaster conditions.
We've also asked FEMA to tweak our deployment of the
Disaster Recovery Center by making some mobile resources
available, get better geographically spaced. FEMA has been
very limited and, frankly, I've been a little bit disappointed in the
level of resources for the Disaster Recovery Center, but it is a
nationwide manpower issue with FEMA. And we have worked
those teams very hard, and they have gone nonstop.
So right now we have a DRC at the museum.
Unfortunately, they made a decision to close Wednesday through
Saturday depending on Nicole. I suspect they'll revise that
tentative closing right now because the forecast has certainly
improved, but we're watching that and continue to go back to the
south, continue to do more canvassing with FEMA, and you'll see
the statistics on that shortly. But we wanted to make sure -- I
wanted to make sure that we had very good coverage for the
Disaster Recovery Center.
And I have to give one more shout-out. I was with the
FEMA staff on Sunday as they demobilized Veterans Park and
moved that DRC to the museum. I talked with FEMA staff who
had been there for weeks and weeks, and they could not be more
complimentary to the Park staff for the coordination and the
hospitality and the service that they worked with FEMA to
provide those disaster registration applicants.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I noticed that that bus was there
this morning when I came in. Is it requisite it be there at the
museum? Do they need in and out service with the building?
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MR. SUMMERS: They are using the building, but the bus
provides a satellite link for their data, so the bus is really a mobile
satellite RF unit.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: The bus close to the building;
they're using that?
MR. SUMMERS: That's correct. So the bus serves as their
communication linkages.
And, finally, our team worked with Children and Families to
get a very large and I think a very well-run disaster supplemental
nutrition program, or what's known as food stamps registration
for disaster. Thirty-five hundred families were assisted on
Sunday. I don't have Monday's number. They're closed today
and will reopen on Wednesday, and that program went extremely
well, and we couldn't have done that without the support of the
sports park team and the Collier Sheriff's Office. So those items,
again, a few additional success stories there towards recovery.
As I mentioned, the recovery center, we want to continue
those efforts as best we can that -- I have provided you the index
of programs that remain available with the exception of Blue
Roof. Blue Roof program managed by the Corps and FEMA
have now ceased operations. They went several days without
registrations or without demand, so that's actually kind of a
good-news item that those challenges have gone away.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: We still do have tarps available
if somebody --
MR. SUMMERS: We do have tarps, and our 311 team
knows if that becomes necessary, we kind of -- we have done that
in the past with kind of a self-service come by and pick up if it
becomes necessary.
One other point here, you know, we rely so heavily -- and
Kristi has an item in front of you today for the SHIP program and
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disaster reimbursement, and I just want to recognize -- and I
know you are aware -- that we rely so heavily on Salvation Army
for casework as they have done during COVID. They hopefully
will get some funding released from Volunteer Florida, which is
where the governor's large fund is.
I just want to share an observation with you is that when we
give locally to the Community Foundation, funding gets moved
to emergency needs and hours. Right now we have funding in
Volunteer Florida that has taken weeks to even get an application
from.
So hopefully that will be a corrective action item that will
come up in the future to get the money into these nonprofits so
they can serve locally again. I think it speaks volumes. We've
moved money and hours, and we are still trying to get money
moved from Volunteer Florida.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And it's important to repeat
that's local money that stays local --
MR. SUMMERS: Absolutely.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: -- from the philanthropic
community.
MR. SUMMERS: Absolutely. Well said.
This is a little interesting here just to show you the increase
from FEMA registrations in the funding. We're now up to
31,126 folks in Collier County have registered for FEMA
assistance. They have now disbursed 37.4 million. That's up
from 30 million. 21 million in housing assistance; that's now
$25 million. Other needs assistance was 9.8 and is now 12.9. I
do think this is -- you know, money doesn't fix it all, but money
helps, and I think the fact FEMA is rapidly disbursing this money
and doing this casework with FEMA registrations is certainly a
big help, and folks are trying to find alternatives.
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The transitional shelter assistance, which is the movement of
folks from the shelter to a hotel or from any other displaced
housing challenges. Again, not many check-ins, but that
program is available, and certainly we know what a tight market
situation we have with our hotel and tourism industry.
Small Business Administration. FEMA will refer many
individuals to SBA for a low-interest loan, and I can't emphasize
enough to those who are applying for FEMA assistance to make
sure that you don't give up. If they send you to an SBA
application, make the application. There is an opportunity that
you may be denied by SBA and then you're re-referred back to
FEMA for additional individual and family grants. So don't give
up on the process.
But at least the dollars approved right now through SBA and
Collier County are $30 million. So, again, an opportunity to get
some money moving into those individuals who can help route
their course of recovery.
I want to, again, just let folks know that when an inspector
calls from FEMA, return that call, make that appointment, work
with that individual. I have met many of those inspectors.
They have a very helpful and courteous mindset and are working
really hard to support residents, as well those disaster assistance
counselors who are canvassing and helping folks on a
door-to-door type basis.
The recovery center that I had mentioned earlier, again, I
want that to continue, because we have found that in the absence
of a lot of the Internet challenges that we're having, folks are
having a difficult time uploading documentation. And so we've
asked FEMA to amend that mission a little bit to be able to
support residents to upload documents that FEMA requires.
Stay in touch with our website. We're keeping that information
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up to date. And, again, the tentative closing right now scheduled
due to Hurricane Nicole.
Kristi Sonntag's group at Community and Housing have the
two SHIP programs that are part of your agenda today as a
walk-on item, and Kristi is here if you have any questions at the
end of my presentation to talk about her grant program.
Debris is -- debris operations, Kari Hodgson and her team
have done a phenomenal job, along with contractors. I can't
really believe we're at Day 40 and hit well over the
one million cubic yard mark in debris cleanup, and I believe that
was done Friday afternoon in some hoist of a coffee cup,
possibly. But tremendous work there.
And as is protocol and we did during Hurricane Ian, the
haulers will take a few days off during the Thanksgiving break,
because they're on a 48-or-so-day continuous run. So be aware
that they will take a couple of days during the Thanksgiving
break.
Our Road and Bridge team continue to support the city,
continue to work on our roadways. They've been supporting us
in variable message board activity as we continue to move those
disaster recovery centers, working in the right-of-way, and trying
to get some type of operations back to normal.
Stormwater group, again, certainly paying big attention
yesterday with the potential for Nicole, but Nicole's track seems
to be deviating to the north, which is good news, and I'll report
more on that shortly. And, again, at the 90 percent mark
associated with irrigation. It's just going to take some time to
make those repairs on the last 10 percent.
The waterway cleanup process, that has a very methodical
process, and we know that there is a process of working through
natural resources. It has to go into the well first for debris
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cleanup. Typically, unfortunately, that's a statute that's been on
the books, and FEMA requires Natural Resources and
Conservation to be contacted first for a debris removal process.
They don't have funding, typically. After that there is
coordination with Florida Department of Emergency -- I'm
sorry -- Environmental Protection, Emergency Management, and
then FEMA.
So, unfortunately, debris removal is a little bit of a
bureaucratic process, but we have contractors ready to go as soon
as all of that has cleared up. And I was glad to see the
waterwaydebris@CollierCountyFL email address established to
stay in touch with Beth and her team as they work on canal
cleanup.
I was scheduled to have a direct housing representative here
from the Florida Division of Emergency Management, Ian Olin
(phonetic). Ian was recalled yesterday back to Tallahassee
to -- for them to regroup for Hurricane Nicole, or what could be
Hurricane Nicole, so I'm going to fill in and update you on direct
housing. Just to let you know, there are three components to the
FEMA direct housing mission, and we use that word "direct
FEMA" because they are the manager. They own and operate
that program, and they do have privacy protection requirements
that they adhere to.
There are three programs. The direct lease, which is where
they find opportunities for bricks and mortar rental; there's also
the transportable temporary housing unit, which we know as a
travel trailer, but we have to put it in FEMA-ese; and Jamie
French and his team are readily -- are ready to go. We have the
necessary activity in our land-use code, et cetera, to allow rapid
deployment and rapid setup of the travel trailers.
And, finally, a multiple-family lease site. It might be a
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rental property that may be made available. And let me just go
back. The travel trailer can also be a manufactured home,
depending on the number of occupants that are needed. They're
not going to put six people in a travel trailer, but if there is an
opportunity for a mobile placement, FEMA also has that. So
there is a travel trailer and a mobile, and those are decided based
on FEMA casework and the number of occupants or the number
of family members.
There are -- they have to meet eligibility requirements.
FEMA goes through that at great length. And, of course, I do
find it a little ironic here that verified loss of at least $12 per
square foot. That's a pretty low number in Collier County for
damage per square foot, or as determined by FEMA. And then,
of course, programs for renters as well.
The timeline, I wish this was better. I will tell you that
Collier County was way ahead of the timeline. We had
information ready the second day of the storm to get to FEMA
and their contractor, site contractor, is the Corps of Engineers
followed by a third-party commercial contractor. We had all of
the necessary park data, site data, zoning information ready for
them right out the gate.
So we do know that placement can take four to six weeks. I
do not have an estimated delivery date. I know that there was a
staging area planned, unfortunately, in the East Coast. I don't
know if that staging area is going to be impacted by Hurricane
Nicole or not. Meanwhile, they will continue to move forward
with all of their programming and their placement.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Question now, or do you want
to wait?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes, I would. We received
a call yesterday from a citizen who said that FEMA knocked at
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their door, approved their driveway, but then came back and said
that they couldn't -- there was something incorrect. Are FEMA
on the ground doing this door to door right now?
MR. SUMMERS: Yeah. FEMA and the Corps are on the
ground. So if they have met the eligibility through registering at
the Disaster Assistance Center, yes, another inspector will go out
and survey the site for a travel trailer.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay.
MR. SUMMERS: Now, if there is some other issue that
Growth Management needs to look into or, you know, maybe it
was -- I don't know, the driveway was too short or something like
that, we'll be glad to take a look.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I was just surprised that they
were -- knowing where these trailers aren't right now, I was
surprised that they're already going --
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, they are actively canvassing to set
those. I just don't have a delivery date --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay.
MR. SUMMERS: -- yet for anybody.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you.
MR. SUMMERS: And, honestly, they will not report that.
It will -- they will work that out directly with the homeowner.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you.
MR. SUMMERS: There are some reasons why the direct
housing may not fit. It could be other solutions provided by
FEMA. A travel trailer or mobile is certainly the second
preference. Bricks and mortar would be the first preference.
They may not be feasible as again, maybe -- back to your
driveway reference here, or they may not wish to secure other
utility connections. So there are some reasons for denial, but
that's usually worked out in agreement with the FEMA inspector
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as they get ready or prepared to set that unit.
I wish I had a little more information here, but 743
households in Collier County met a threshold for this particular
housing mission; 47 were approved. There are no households in
Collier County -- as this information was reported to the state to
me yesterday, there are no -- no one currently occupying a trailer
at this point.
The commercial sites, we have nine that still need to be
assessed, and FEMA is doing a secondary assessment on 11. So
those would be your existing mobile parks or RV sites.
The Corps of Engineers team is on the ground. We've been
working with them. Our Corps team is split between Collier
County and Hendry County, so they are doing double duty on
these trailer assessments.
The Corps representatives, ironically, are folks that I worked
with in coastal North Carolina, so I've been putting the squeeze
on them to get busy, and hopefully we hear something soon.
Do I dare transition and talk about Hurricane Nicole? But I
will, because conditions are certainly improving. Last night
when I went to print -- and this is not in your handout this
morning, but I will update that for you. We were looking at a
Category 1 obviously approaching the East Coast. An executive
order was issued by the governor yesterday, which included
Collier County, which is not unusual to have adjacent counties
declared because it went from Dade County north. Obviously,
the big concern with this particular event will be the East Coast
beaches. Let me say that again, the East Coast beaches with the
greatest storm surge potential maybe being in the Palm Beach
area and north.
So the track shifted from what we went to print last night. It
shifted to the north, which puts things in much better condition
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for us. And I was able to add these arrows this morning on the
forecast just to let you know that, basically, Collier County is just
outside of that cone. I don't want to jinx that, but things are
looking very, very good for us in Collier County.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And just to give a little
reference, if I may interrupt you, the 1:00 p.m. on Thursday
where it says S right below FL this morning got moved it's now
north of the FL --
MR. SUMMERS: That's correct.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: -- on this morning's forecast.
That's just a little reference for folks.
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, thank you for that. And, again, I
just had a little difficulty updating here at the last minute this
morning.
Only a 5 percent probability of sustained tropical storm force
winds. That is a thunderstorm storm for us, so I feel very good
about that.
I did leave you a footnote here about a local state of
emergency if it became necessary if for some reason we had any
substantial debris changes or, I'm sorry, debris impacts. It is
essential that FEMA will not commingle events or disasters. So
we -- Kari and her debris team are aware that they have a box, if
you will, around what is Ian damage, and we have to punt,
regroup, and reset if we have damages from Nicole. I don't think
that's going to be the case; however, that will require a second
local state of emergency in order to compartmentalize that second
response.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Do you think we should --
MR. SUMMERS: I don't think we need to do that now.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay.
MR. SUMMERS: I do not think we need a local state of
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emergency, but we'll monitor.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Do we need
to -- Mr. Chairman, do we need to authorize the Chairman to
issue that on our behalf if needed?
MR. SUMMERS: That would be great insurance.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Let's do that. I think we
did that before. But I'll make a motion to authorize our
Chairman to issue a state of emergency in reference to Hurricane
Nicole in the event that our Emergency Management staff
requests that from the Chairman. There will be no need for a
commission meeting to do that.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Second.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Do we want to include the
Sheriff in that decision-making process as well, as we have done?
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Sure.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: If you wouldn't mind amending
the motion.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Just as long as you don't
have the authority on your own.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yeah. We don't want to turn
me loose, that's for sure.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Whatever works. If it's
both --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and seconded
that the Chair be authorized to declare a state of emergency if
appropriately asked, how's that?
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Perfect.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Any other discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All those in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
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COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved.
MR. SUMMERS: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And we are
arm in arm with the Sheriff on any of these tactical decisions so,
certainly, we will do that.
Storm surge inundation, much, much lower numbers today.
And, again, this is kind of unusual in that we could potentially
receive and, again, up to a foot of storm surge as the storm
potentially exits into the gulf and then hooks back around.
But we talked with Miami Weather this morning. We think
this is a very low probability; however, we do have to watch with
some astronomical tides. We can handle this one-foot level if it
became necessary. I don't see that as being any potential -- any
serious impact for any of our operations right now. Again, too
early to tell due to timing, and we feel pretty confident about
the -- I'll call it the lack of intensification going forward.
Again, a reminder to our public, monitor the conditions. I
want to make sure that we're continuing to keep drainages open
so we can move stormwater. Take pictures of current
conditions. We think there is a very -- a low probability of any
intermittent power outages, but we might get a gust. We might
get a wire that was loose during Irma. I'm sorry. Irma,
goodness, during Ian. We'll secure loose items, continue to
monitor/register with Alert Collier, and check your kit for a few
extra items just in case we need it here over the next few days.
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But, again, I think things are looking pretty good for us at this
hour.
Just to wrap up a little bit, we've already taken care of No. 1.
We continue to -- we have a little concern about the slow
restoration process with a lot of our communication carriers.
Really impacting Everglades City, and we have made numerous
requests to the state EOC for some expedited repair of Comcast
and CenturyLink. And I'll be candid, that's not going well. And
we're going to continue to work with the state on that.
But, Mr. Chairman, this might be a situation where it's time
to see if there's an opportunity to have some dialogue with these
carriers on restoration, because this Internet connectivity and
slow restoration, unlike our electrical folks, is really hampering
the recovery.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been a terrible impediment.
And there again, we learned with Irma, Irma was more of a wind
event and destroyed our cell service and so on and so forth. This
one was a saltwater intrusion.
MR. SUMMERS: Saltwater, exactly.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And these carriers weren't
really prepared for daily operations, let alone 8-, 10-foot surge
and the saltwater inundation, so...
MR. SUMMERS: Well, we'll see how that goes. We have
provided through the state emergency operations center several
Starlink units, which provided some Internet connectivity.
We've worked with one cell phone carrier in particular that's
been very supportive of Everglades City, and we'll just have to
watch that. But I wanted to let you know that was top on our
radar.
Finally, we have had some conversation with my colleague
in Lee County. Those folks have really had a marathon event, as
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you would imagine. And, once again, we offered some Collier
EM staff to go up to Lee County and relieve those folks a little bit
during daylight hours, as well as our Florida Emergency
Preparedness Association has sent EM directors from other parts
of the county to go in there and get -- relieve those folks just a
little bit. But we have ongoing dialogue with Lee County for
mutual aid support.
And we are tentatively slated to be a staging area for some
supplies and equipment for FDEM over at our state -- over on our
campus, should deployment become necessary.
So that's my wrap-up. I'll gladly take any questions.
Again, my sincere thanks to you-all and to all the partner
agencies who are doing a tremendous amount of work behind the
scenes.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Just a quick question. In
your report you talked about the assistance to the City of Naples
and Road and Bridge, cleaning up their roadways. Can you
elaborate on that just a little bit as to what the county did provide;
do we get -- is that a reimbursable expense from FEMA? Just a
little bit of general information about how that assistance has
worked.
MR. SUMMERS: Oh, Trinity's here, so let me phone a
friend. Let Trinity address that.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Trinity, did you
understand what I was asking?
MS. SCOTT: Uh-huh. For the record, Trinity Scott,
department head, Transportation Management Services.
We assisted with them with clearing their roadways, getting
debris off of their roadways, sand, et cetera. They -- a lot of the
beach dunes washed over the roadway, so we were assisting in
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getting that up off of the roadways and keeping them passible.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: No, I understand that we
assisted with that. But, I mean, in terms of personnel, in terms
of expense, what -- or maybe that's something that you could
provide to me later.
MS. SCOTT: I can provide that back to you on the
personnel, and certainly we keep track of all of that. We have
very detailed personnel records that we keep pre, during, and post
event.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: And are those expenses
reimbursable from FEMA?
MS. SCOTT: I just was talking with Dan Summers, and I'm
going to defer to him on that, because he's the one who deals with
FEMA much more regularly than I do.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yes. And don't go away,
Trinity.
MR. SUMMERS: The short answer is I'm 99 percent sure
the answer is yes. Anything with FEMA could change from day
to day. But you have two things to rely on. Number one, we
have an interlocal agreement for debris removal. No doubt this
was part of a debris mission as we clean that sand and drainages,
number one. Number two, we also have the City of Naples and
Collier County in a statewide mutual aid agreement. So there is
a mutual assistance process, so there are two agreements that
would cover that.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And just as a -- and,
Commissioner Saunders, thank you for bringing that up with
regard to -- it's time to say -- come on back up to the microphone.
It's time to say thank you to our Roads and Bridges folks.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Sure.
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CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I was in constant
communication with our senior staff as the storm was coming
through and going through. We had close to 99 -- 98, 99 911
calls tacked up. We all know -- the reason why Dan tells you
every time you come around the corner to have 72 hours of
preparation in place, we had almost 100 911 calls, and I was on
the phone with Ms. Amy who was talking to Trinity, and
we -- we can't roll our ambulances until the winds subside to
50 miles an hour. So we can do other things and did. Our Road
and Bridges Department were out in advance clearing our roads,
major arteries [sic], so that our first responders could, in fact, get
to those folks in a timely manner. And so from me to you, and
from all of us to you, thank them for us.
MS. SCOTT: Absolutely, I will. I am very proud to be
able to lead that team. They are an amazing group of individuals
who put themselves on the line. I had folks out in the middle of
the storm deploying pumps.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yes, I remember, absolutely.
So thank you.
MS. SCOTT: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yep, absolutely.
Commissioner LoCastro, do you have a statement?
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yeah, I have a couple
things.
Dan, first I wanted to thank you for your sense of urgency
getting back to the news media yesterday. They were lighting
up a couple of our phones but, you know, it's not like we're trying
to get on the news. We want them to talk to the subject-matter
expert. And then I got a text back that they immediately got
ahold of you. You gave them all the great info. And, you
know, we want the general public to hear latest and greatest. So
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I know you're a busy guy but, you know, I think we all
appreciated that.
Secondly -- and this is for Jamie, Trinity, and just, you know,
your group, when we have sometimes these back-to-back
storms -- and we all have a little bit experience, sometimes this
isn't uncommon, sometimes we get these that are stacked up -- I
would just recommend or just throw it out there for what it's
worth, we've done a lot of work cleaning our beaches from Ian,
but as we've been advertising, we don't know what debris is still
in the water. We don't know what debris is out there. We've
been testing the water to make sure that the bacteria levels are
low or nonexistent and all the things we're doing to safely open
our beaches. When a storm comes through back to back like
this, it's not uncommon for the waters to be churned a little bit
and Ian debris to make its way to the beaches. So alls I would
say is as we're sort of queuing up and triaging and prioritizing,
sort of, our cleanup crews, some of the beaches where we think
we're, quote, done, I hope we're going to go back out there after
this storm passes, because we might see new debris.
And also, too, you know, having taken a couple of meetings
with some red tide specialists, when storms back to back happen
like this -- and it's not about red tide, but if there is any bacteria
or something in the water that's at acceptable levels but there
might be things offshore, when the second storm churns up the
currents and whatnot, it oftentimes can change those levels, then,
quickly from what we had -- we experienced during Ian.
So I know we've worked really hard raking the sand on the
beaches, picking up so much debris, but I just think, you know,
once this lesser storm subsides, I hope we're doing everything
humanly possible to get back to even some of the beaches that
we've given a thumbs up to you saying they're good to go,
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because I don't think we're -- we won't be surprised to see, you
know, big chunks of people's docks that got lost during Ian that
finally made it to the shores of, you know, one of our beaches
because this storm moved things around a little bit. So I just
throw that out there.
MR. SUMMERS: Sir, you're spot on. And I would say,
again, another reason that -- and I thank you for having the option
for a local state of emergency, because if we have -- if that shows
up, it is a, quote, new event and a new process. So thank you for
that.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So the question of the day,
of course, are the beaches open?
MR. SUMMERS: Trinity?
MS. SCOTT: So, first, if I could address Commissioner
LoCastro's statement about we are continuing to rake the beaches
on a daily basis. We're back to normal business operations. We
are still pulling debris as it does wash up out. So it does wash up
on the beaches, but we will continue that effort through Nicole
and as our usual before business.
With regard to beaches, several of our beach ends suffered
significant damage, so a majority of our beach ends -- or beach
accessways are not traversable. However, if a resident is to
bypass that and get out on the beaches, the beaches -- we have
been -- we've been raking the beaches as normal operations;
however, we would strongly encourage folks to be cognizant of
debris. We are continuing to have debris wash up. We have
signs out, to be cautious of debris that may be submerged or
otherwise wash up on the waters. But they should also monitor
the Department of Health website, because they monitor the
water conditions, and they will post advisories as necessary with
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regard to the water quality.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So by posting these signs,
proceed at your own risk, like, lifeguard is not present, swim with
[sic] your own risk --
MS. SCOTT: Yes, essentially.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: -- are we -- the same idea,
right?
MS. SCOTT: Yes.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And so what happens when
people throw these signs away? Because it's happening. I just
want the county covered. You know, I don't want something
awful to happen and then the fingers pointed back at us. So I
don't know if there's a statement, something legal you can do or
anything just to have some kind of liability coverage because,
frankly, they are swarming to the beaches right now, even in the
city.
MS. SCOTT: Yes, ma'am, we understand that. And I
would defer to Jeff with regard to anything legal or any liability
that we may have.
Mr. Mullins and his team are doing a great job of -- we
continuously are putting messages out through our social media,
through our press releases with regard to the beach conditions
and the submerged debris that may be out there.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: You got anything to say with
that?
MR. KLATZKOW: Yeah, you can remove all liability by
banning people from the beaches, but I don't think our tourist
industry would do that, so --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yeah. I'm not going to do that.
MR. KLATZKOW: -- it's risk reward.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: That's right.
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MR. KLATZKOW: So you post signs, you know, be
careful, dangerous, but unless you want to shut the beaches
down -- and I do not recommend that --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: No, no, no.
MR. KLATZKOW: -- then we'll just deal with it.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Well -- and our worthy County
Attorney will defend us to the end.
There was a sign there. Take pictures of when -- Trinity,
make sure you take pictures when you put a sign up, so when
somebody tears it down we can say it was there and somebody
took it away.
Any other questions for Mr. Summers before I cut him
loose?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: We're all good.
MR. SUMMERS: Thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Thank you, Dan.
Before we go on to the next agenda item, we do have a friend
here in the audience, Ms. Holly Reschein. Would you like to say
a few words, young lady? Ms. Holly is -- she's wearing her
AshBritt hat -- or hat and shirt today, but she's also a
commissioner from Monroe County and traveled up here to say
good morning.
MS. RESCHEIN: Well, thank you so much, Mr. Chairman,
fellow commissioners, Mr. Chairman, staff.
Just on behalf of AshBritt and our senior VP of operations,
he's in charge of the operation here in Collier County, he's on the
ground today. He couldn't be here. I know he's been in front of
you before. But just to share with you what a delight it's been to
work with Collier County during this entire process.
I know it's been arduous. It's been challenging. There's a
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number of hurdles that you always have to leap over during times
of disaster. But, again, on behalf of the AshBritt -- the entire
AshBritt team, wanted to say thank you, and thank you to
Mr. Rodriguez and thank you to Mr. Summers and all of your
team. Again, just delightful. And I do have a little token, a
challenge coin, Mr. Chairman, if I could just pass it out to
you-all.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Please. That would be fine.
MS. REISMAN: And with that, just thank you so much.
And on our team calls, Collier County always gets the gold star,
so I wanted to share that. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Thank you for coming to visit
us today.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And, Ms. Kari, you want to
make your way up so we can --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I just want to make sure
these are not worth more than $5.
MS. REISMAN: I promise they're not.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's 4, $4.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I'm sorry. I want to
make sure they're not worth more than $4.
MS. REISMAN: I can confirm that for you.
MS. HODGSON: Good morning, Commissioners. For the
record, Kari Hodgson, director of Solid Waste. I'm available if
you might have any questions about the debris recovery mission.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Well, I figured somebody
would at some stage if I invited you up here. I just -- I was
looking at the -- by the way, I love the dashboard website that's
been set up. That's a nice little click of a button to tell us all
geographically where, when, and how and what's, in fact, going
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on.
I noticed a downtick in the volume and loads per day, and I
can't find on the dashboard the assets with regard to the trucks.
Are we -- are we running into an issue with volume of trucks or --
MS. HODGSON: No, not at all. Actually, AshBritt has
confirmed that all trucks are dedicated to be here till the end.
We've down-ticked just due to volume.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Say that again.
MS. HODGSON: We're down on trucks. We've found the
right number of trucks to get all of the debris so that it is a happy
going course. So as we move into these next two weeks, we've
actually decreased trucks by at least 50.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay. So there was a
downtick in the volume.
MS. HODGSON: Yes.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Because we were running
30,000 tons -- or yards a day, and --
MS. HODGSON: Yes.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: -- it tricked to 15, and I was
wondering what precipitated that.
MS. HODGSON: Yeah. So we're on the other side of the
curve. We've caught the bulk of it, so that's why you see a lot
of -- we've hit the million cubic yard mark, and so we're coming
down the hill, and we're finding less debris is set out, as well as
the hours -- the hour changing, it gets darker sooner, so the trucks
aren't on the road quite as long. So that's a lot of the reason for
the downtick.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay. Well, then, that was
primarily my question. I was -- because I watch those things,
and I knew there was a reason. I know -- I watched the volume
tick up when we found the alternative site, staging area up in the
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Wiggins Pass area for those debris haulers there. They could get
to and from where the material was, in fact, was located. But I
didn't see -- I couldn't cipher off the dashboard why there was a
downtick. I mean, we hit the million mark, yeah, but there's still
an enormous amount of debris to be gathered, so...
MS. HODGSON: Yes. There's still a lot out there and
with it -- again, with it getting darker sooner to having less
number of trucks is able -- we're able to deploy them in the areas
where they really need attention. Still a lot of focus on the west
coast. So you'll still see the truck numbers there, and you'll still
see it every day on the dashboard. It should be there, and I'll
double-check that.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It might be but, again, on my
phone app -- it's a droid, and it -- if I had an Apple, it would
probably work better.
MS. HODGSON: I can't help you there, sorry.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Not going to go there, either.
I'm a DOS boy.
Commissioner Solis.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Just -- I know that one of my
last emails I'm sure will be when will the North Collier debris
site -- do you think that will be wrapped up? Any --
MS. HODGSON: I think as we go into 2023 it will still be
open.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay.
MS. HODGSON: I don't think it will be open -- forecasting,
based on the way that we're moving debris, the way -- as you
said, the cubic yards per day has gone down. Based on what
we're sending out, though, I would -- I would say worst-case
scenario, end of February as a worst-case scenario.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Because the debris has to be
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brought there. Then it is processed. Even though it's not -- it's
not just vegetation, it's processed?
MS. HODGSON: That is correct. By "processed," it is
loaded into tractor trailers and shipped out to Okeechobee
Landfill.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: They're not separating it there.
They're just staging it there to take it to Okeechobee.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And that just -- and that was a
huge increase by volume to get it removed from the
residential -- from in front of the folks' homes, so...
Okay. Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Kari, I just wanted to
commend you for the professional emails I've seen you trade
back and forth with citizens. And, you know, at times when
citizens scream at us and people say, oh, the squeaky wheel gets
the oil, I always say, I hate that statement because I think
priorities get the oil. So somebody screaming that their palm
fronds haven't been picked up, I've been proud to see your reply
saying, you know, we're aware, but we're actually in
neighborhoods right now picking up everything that the people
own that is out on the curb, you know, appliances and furniture.
So we'll get to you.
And you've said it in such a professional way that some of
the responses have been, oh, thank you. You know, I want to
make sure we're not forgotten. But the way you-all have
prioritized the neighborhoods, I mean, there's some really bad
hard-hit ones in all of our, you know, districts, you know,
especially mine, you know, Commissioner Taylor, but, you
know, we've got pockets everywhere.
And, you know, you've really done a professional job
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directing the traffic and not sort of caving to, you know, this one
block is screaming and yelling. It's easy to just say, okay, send
over the truck and just, you know, quiet them down. But the
reality is that pulls a truck, then, away from a place where we've
got some really significant debris that's dangerous.
And also I've heard from people, especially on Isles of Capri,
that, you know, when everything they own is out on the curb, and
you've done such a great job to remove it, it really is an emotional
lift. You know, somebody seeing everything they own in front
of their curb is a lot different than a few palm fronds. So just
thank you for how you've done it and your sense of urgency, too,
with emails you've received or things that I've forwarded to you.
It's shown how hard the county has really worked -- been
working, and you've really been a great representative and a
leader, and I know we all appreciate it. It's noticed and
appreciated.
MS. HODGSON: Thank you. I appreciate that.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: So keep it up.
MS. HODGSON: And only because we have the support of
great leadership. I appreciate all the information that the
commissioners do send forward. And we have an amazing team
as well. I've went to the sites and talked to some of the drivers
for the contractors, and many of them have had damaged homes,
and they're still here dedicated every day driving a truck,
removing debris.
So thank you for your support.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Don't go away. One more.
Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well, I just -- I just wanted
to talk to you about appreciation and that even the youngest in
our community appreciate this debris pickup.
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It was really, really early in the morning. It was light in
Lake Park, and it was a neighborhood street and the double truck,
right, the double -- I don't know that's what you call it.
The double truck came, and they were picking up debris.
And a family of three came out in the street, and she was in her
dressing gown, and her youngest one was in diapers, and then the
older one who was not much older, was in shorts. And the
youngest one could not take his eyes off the claw that was
picking up the debris. And the older one was like, oh, yeah, and
he started to dance around this little boy who was transfixed at
this activity.
It was such -- it was an -- it was an ad for what you're doing,
because to think on a narrow, you know, residential street that
you can have these huge trucks and still do the job you're doing
speaks volumes. And you're not there, personally, to supervise
it. They're just doing their job. Thank you.
MS. HODGSON: They are. They're doing a great job.
Thank you. I'll make sure that that's well received for them as
well.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Absolutely. Thank you very
much, Ms. Kari.
MS. HODGSON: Yep, thank you all.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: That's all that I have.
We are four minutes past our favorite court reporter's break,
so we're going to go take 10 minutes and be back at 10:44.
(A brief recess was had from 10:34 a.m. to 10:48 a.m.)
MS. PATTERSON: Chair, you have a live mic.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yes. We are back four
minutes late, and are we're going to claim Commissioner
LoCastro, since he's not here.
So let's move on to our next item.
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Item #7
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON GENERAL TOPICS NOT ON THE
CURRENT OR FUTURE AGENDA
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioner, our next item is Item 7,
public comments on general topics not on the current or future
agenda.
MR. MILLER: Mr. Chairman, I have three registered
speakers for this item. Your first speaker is Jackie Keay. She'll
be followed by Garret FX Beyrent.
MS. KEAY: Good morning, Jackie Keay.
Some Americans are no longer free. They are being
targeted, abused, and destroyed by the very politicians they
elected to serve and protect them. Such politicians are toxic
leaders. They derive great pleasure in doing evil, harming
people, and causing social and political chaos.
Research shows that three out of every 10 leaders are toxic.
The author of the Allure of Toxic Leaders describes a toxic leader
as those individuals who, by virtue of their destructive behavior
and dysfunctional personal qualities -- ooh, I'm out of breath -- or
characteristics inflict serious and enduring harm on the individual
groups, organization, communities, and even the nations that they
lead.
One of the most common practices of toxic leaders is
bullying. According to the author of the studies that details
negative effects of toxic leaders and workplace bully, as high as
81 percent of bullies occupy a high-ranking position. Toxic
leaders are arrogant, neurotic, prejudice, and pathological liars.
Common traits are extreme jealousy, excessive
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self-promotion and self-interest, targeting and preying on
vulnerable people, and a lack of morals and integrity.
Behavioral signs are blaming others instead of taking
responsibility, low emotional intelligence, and a lack of humility.
Tanya Blatnik contends that toxic bosses display
psychopathic traits when they abuse their powers to harm others.
For reference, psychopaths can be found where there is an
abundance of power, wealth, and status, i.e., corporate America,
politics and, yes, churches. They appear successful and
charming outwardly like wolves in sheep's clothing at first
which -- while lacking in empathy and remorse as they destroy
the people in organizations they run. They create a toxic system
of people around them to enable their grand delusions of power
and self-importance. They insist that they, alone, are the saviors
who protect their followers from the enemies.
Although toxic leaders produce successful short-term results,
unfortunately in the long term they cause great destruction. As a
matter of fact, they leave the organizations or their nation or
states worse off than they found them.
So, as a nation, we voted out one dangerously toxic
politician -- politician, and we have many more to go. And, yes,
as Americans, voters, we have the power, and we need to use that
to better our government and our communities.
Thank you all.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Garret FX Beyrent.
He will be followed by Elizabeth Radi.
MR. BEYRENT: For the record, Garret FX Beyrent, and
you probably saw me at the DLC meeting. We can't discuss
that.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Sure, we can.
MR. BEYRENT: That was actually my crew from
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Walmart. I brought them in. And they had a lot of mental
issues that they wanted to discuss, but the whole meeting
went -- went sideways, so -- and I didn't want to give you the
whole history of the David Lawrence Center, but long and short
is these are the last awards I'm giving out to Andy, and this
is -- because he's a big fan of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, I
got him a replica of Eleanor. Do you remember Eleanor? Fast
and Furious? Do you remember all those other ones that weren't
Fast and Furious; Gone in 60 Seconds?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yes.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Right.
MR. BEYRENT: This is his car, okay. That's your car
now.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: To get out of here?
MR. BEYRENT: Sixty seconds, you've got to get out of
here. I've got a minute and a half.
And this is the really strangest thing. This is a level, okay,
that you use -- the Chinese came up with this -- and this is
called -- it's called Hyper Tough, like -- that's a great name for a
guy, right Hyper Tough, that wears red and black. Ignore this.
Don't -- she's wearing red and black. She's not a regular
commissioner. She never was. She's always been tough, right?
So long and short, this is for when you get your awards, it's
got a special slot in it, and you put it behind your award as you
hang it on the wall, and it makes it level. And you're a
level-headed guy, right?
I've never had that problem. I've been in DLC so many
times, they've got a plaque with my name on it.
Thank you very much for your time, and I'll give this to
Amy.
MR. MILLER: Mr. Chair, your final registered speaker is
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Elizabeth Radi.
MS. RADI: That's kind of hard to follow.
Good morning, Commissioners. I'm coming to you today in
public comment not wearing the hat of the Collier County Tenant
Union but as myself. I want to speak about integrity. The
definition is the quality of being honest and strong moral
principles; the state of being whole and undivided.
Back a few years ago when I worked at the Willough, I ran a
processing group about integrity. It was one of the most
requested groups. Although sometimes in addiction it can be a
revolving door with patients, every time a patient came back,
they would seek me out because it was, to them, a reset and a
foundation for their recovery.
Basically, in that group I would say you have a baseline of
integrity, and one little tiny thing will take you that much further
away from that baseline before you realize where you're at. You
started here, now you're here. It takes you that much further to
get back to that baseline.
I have, as well as others in the community, been in utter
shock over the last few months as the antics have taken place. I
was asked by reporters who the Tenant Union would endorse,
and I said no one. We are a bipartisan group, and having a
housing crisis isn't a political affiliation; that we, in order to be
effective, must represent everybody in the county; that all of our
voices and needs matter.
I was asked to endorse certain candidates. And, trust me,
they jumped on our page for campaign purposes and quickly
found out that wasn't going to happen.
I loved getting to know many of the candidates running for
whatever office they were and gifts -- their gifts, talents, and
experiences. They came with extraordinary, extraordinary
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talents.
You have some extremely talented minds in Collier County.
Unfortunately, they were never seen. And why? Because they
were not considered far enough right or far enough left, yet they
were incredible leaders.
I think we forget as -- when we look at things, and we looked
at certain races and certain things, that we scream for freedom.
We scream that they want to make sure that we preserve that
freedom but, yet, we lock out the freedoms and voices of
40 percent of certain districts, that we lock out the voices of
people that actually matter. And the antics that have driven this
county have been despicable. And until those that are affected,
truly affected by it stand up and say no more, it's going to
continue.
And I will tell you this: It has been known all the way to a
state level what has happened in District 4.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay.
MS. PATTERSON: ***Commissioners, we do have an
11:00 time-certain, if we want to --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Let's do that. We are three
minutes away.
MS. PATTERSON: Take that one three minutes early, all
right.
Item 11I, which is being heard at time-certain at 11:00 a.m.
is a recommendation to approve a Collier County Tourist
Development Council Category B Promotion Funds Grant
Application for the U.S. Pickleball -- the U.S. Open Pickleball
Championships for Fiscal Year 2023.
Mr. Paul Beirnes, your tourism director, will begin the
presentation or comments.
MR. BEIRNES: Good morning, Commissioners.
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CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Good morning.
MR. BEIRNES: Paul Beirnes, for the record, director of
tourism.
Just get a little bit insight, and this is actually what I consider
a pretty good-news item in general. Basically, a couple months
ago this item was brought to the Tourist Development Council
meeting, which passed unanimously.
And just for a little bit of reminder, the tourist development
tax, which -- is not part of the General Fund. It's actually
defined by the state statute as far as the -- I'll call it the buckets or
the uses of these funds ranging everything from beach
renourishment and coastal zoning and in this case capital
expenditure.
A number of years ago, Collier County got behind and
recognized the significant uptick in popularity of pickleball,
embraced it over at East Naples Community Park, and also
embraced the relationship we have with Spirit Promotions, which
is the Minto US Open Pickleball Championships.
It has been a very popular and growth-filled event, not only
for that particular event, but for the use of pickleball by residents
and tourists over the course of the year.
As with everything in the Sunshine state, the sun, the
weather, our repeated hurricanes coming through, require a little
bit of ongoing maintenance for the courts, wind screens, and just
simply beautifying it for the event.
So anyways, as I mentioned, this -- we're bringing it as an
item, an application of tourist development funds in the amount
of $670,000, which is part of the TDC capital applications.
But before we get into the bullets, I want to kind of turn
things over to and invite Chris and Terri. Chris and Terri run the
Minto open -- Minto US Open Pickleball Championships. Just a
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bit of an insight of the path that we've been over the last couple
years and what it looks like going forward.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: You two flipping a coin as to
who gets to go first?
MS. GRAHAM: Yeah, I drew the short straw.
MS. EVON: Caught red handed.
MS. GRAHAM: Terri Graham, cofounder, US Open; Chris
Evon, cofounder US Open.
Good morning. Thank you very much for giving us some
time today to go over this very, very important grant for not only
the US Open but East Naples Community Park and the
community itself.
Six years ago, 2016 was our first US Open. A couple of you
were in your chairs at that time as well. A lot of new faces. But
to give you a little idea, we had nine permanent courts in 2016.
We have 64 permanent courts now. Eight hundred players then,
3,000 players. But the big thing is 2,000 spectators; 35,000
spectators we had this past year.
So what does that mean for Collier County? It means heads
in beds, more heads in beds, more heads in beds, every year we
have more heads in beds in this community.
The sport itself, back then there was probably a little under
two million players. We now -- the numbers haven't been out
for this year, but we're probably closer to nine million, and you've
probably seen the likes of Tom Brady, LeBron James, all these
people coming into the sport buying certain things,
going -- teams as they call it in this new team competition.
The facility itself, our dear friend always calls it the Augusta
National, the Masters. You know, this is the facility that started
pickleball facilities being built around the country. It started
here in Collier County. You created this monster of a facility
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with 64 permanent courts, but now it's time to keep up with the
Joneses, quite frankly. Everybody's chasing it. They've
researched our numbers down here. They've researched the
tourism numbers down here. Not just seven days, but 12 months
out of the year, the tourists -- and Paul will show you the
numbers. The tourists that come to this community 12 months
out of the year is affected by what happens over at East Naples
Community Park.
What else did I miss, long straw?
MS. EVON: I think the thing is just a lot of this has
happened because of your help and the incredible job that Parks
and Rec has done to help us with this park and with this facility.
And right now we're needing these courts to be resurfaced.
They need to be on a schedule to be resurfaced. We need them
to be upgraded. And then as it comes closer to the event, there's
a lot of things that need to be done to beautify the park. And,
like Terri said, we want to keep up with this. We want this to
continue to be the crown jewel of pickleball throughout the
world. This is a huge international event for this community,
and it's just going to continue to get better.
MS. GRAHAM: Thank you.
MR. BEIRNES: And, Troy, if you could possibly pull up
page -- on the agenda -- it was 259. It's PowerPoint --
MR. MILLER: I will work on that. You didn't have your
PowerPoint in the folder ready to go?
MR. BEIRNES: Sorry. It was, sorry, just on the agenda.
My apologies.
MR. MILLER: Give me a couple minutes.
MR. BEIRNES: That's fine. In fact, what I can do is kind
of walk through a couple of the bullet points. My apologies.
I wanted to give you just an insight, because the property is
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actually a pretty significantly busy location. There's 64
pickleball courts operating 365 days of the year. There's a
membership that actually plays out there on a regular basis, 2,500
members, and then the numbers came in at over 13,000 unique
visitors per year excluding the weekends and between noon and
5:00. So these are people that are playing this on a regular basis.
Winter play alone, 2,500 drop-ins; 78 percent of those are
tourists themselves, so -- and then last year we were really proud
to have opened up the new visitors center and pro shop that really
added a whole new elevation.
When it comes to the US Open Pickleball, as Chris and Terri
just mentioned, eight-day event, 2,800 plus participants from
around the world, that works out to be 4,216 average daily
attendance during that time.
And then what we did is we actually really dove into surveys
and research; 63 percent of the attendants at that event are
visitors, and then when you add up the amount of bodies that
went through is 33,728 total attendants. And we can definitely
confirm that those individuals spread out across the entire
destination with their economic impact.
In itself, the event drew $10 million economic impact into
Collier County across the entire destination. And, of course,
above and beyond all of that, we had the opportunity to showcase
the event on CBS network as well as Pickleball Channel, which is
30 hours of live streaming on Pickleball Channel and 12 hours of
broadcast of the finals on CBS Sports network. So pretty
significant exposure to the destination.
And, you know, the long and the short is just really making
sure that this crown jewel that we have is up to its ability to host
the event for years going forward.
And so getting back to the executive summary itself, the
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recommendation is to approve Collier County Tourist
Development Council Category B Promotion Funds Grant
Application for the US Open Pickleball Championships for Fiscal
Year 2023 in the amount of $670,000 within the TDC Capital
Projects Fund.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay. Thank you, Paul.
MR. BEIRNES: Absolutely.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner LoCastro, you
go first.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Thank you.
Paul, how are you doing?
MR. BEIRNES: Awesome, thank you.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: You know, I have no
objection with, you know, what I say is the investment that we
continue to make in the park, but here's the only statement that I
wanted to make. We subsidize a lot of organizations who bring
heads in beds and bring all kinds of great and wonderful things to
Collier County, so that is valuable. That's why I say that the
money is an investment. But having said that, as we go
forward -- and like I said, I have no objection to this, so this is in
the future, and we're going to be talking, you know, a lot back
and forth.
I would just like to see some of these organizations that
continue to explode and be very successful to share the load a
little bit more financially. You know, I don't want to see you at
that podium every year asking for 670,000, 790,000,
$1.2 million, I mean, and then hearing about all the success.
And I'm not picking on pickleball. There's other things we're
going to wind up talking about at the sports park and other
places.
And so I just want to plant that seed, and, you know -- and I
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know that our County Manager and I share the same thoughts.
We had a good conversation going forward about how we want
to look for these opportunities because it's taxpayer dollars. And
even though it's TDC money, that could be used for lots of
things. It's not TDC money that says pickleball or nothing.
And then I also look in my own district and go, wow, that
East Naples Community Park is the Taj Mahal. It's an
unbelievable shining example, but then -- and this might be
apples and oranges, because I realize different pots of money can
only be used for different things. But then I get disappointed
when I have neighborhoods that are filled with kids that don't
even have a playground. I have -- you know, we all -- but I'll
speak for me. I've got Little League teams that are playing on
fields that have been built for even longer than the East Naples
Community Park, and they're filled with holes, they have burned
out lights, you know, parents are going to Lowe's to buy sand so
the kids don't fall in holes.
And, you know, I'd like to see a lot more cohesion across all
of our parks. So although it might a little bit of apples and
oranges -- I'm not saying, you know, don't resurface the
pickleball courts and get over to some small baseball field.
You know, a rising tide lifts all boats. So, you know, having
an amazing sports park, having an amazing East Naples
Community Park for pickleball -- but I don't want to take my eye
off of some of the other things.
So some of that isn't really a homework assignment for you,
and that's why the County Manager and I have been talking
that -- you know, sort of wanted to see the -- you know, basically
a bit more balance.
The other thing is -- and it's more of a statement. There
again, it's -- you just happen to be standing at the podium. And I
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actually mentioned this to Terri. As I went to the Botanical
Garden a couple days ago, I drove by the East Naples, you know,
Community Park, and it's great, huge sign out there showing the
park, and then a sign says, you know, U.S. Pickleball -- home of
U.S. Pickleball Championships and all that -- but I actually had
this conversation with Mr. Rodriguez, and I hope we do consider
this.
Citizens sometimes send me notes thinking that that park no
longer is even a county park. It's the pickleball headquarters of
the universe, and it's -- it's lots of things still. And so we've
corrected rumor from fact. I think, you know, Mr. Rodriguez is
even considering maybe talking to our Parks and Rec folks about
putting a little bit more signage out there that makes it more
clear, hey, open courts for all citizens, 9:00 to 5:00, or whatever
the numbers are, because sometimes just the curb appeal as you
drive by is impressive, but it can be a little bit confusing.
And so I know that's not necessarily your homework
assignment. But talking about this topic, it's just a matter of,
like, having more cohesion, because the signal we send to the
taxpayers is this is still their money. Sometimes people say,
well, it's TDC money. Yeah, okay. There's no such thing. It's
taxpayer dollars. And if the pickleball court didn't exist, we'd
have 670,000 to do something else with.
And just -- I look for your expertise to -- over the next year
to -- whatever, to come here and help us spend money wisely.
And then also, as we sit down with these organizations, we're
partners. So this isn't an adversarial thing.
But as these organizations continue to also make some
money and get some good visibility and whatnot, I expect them
to sit down at the table and go, you know what, we don't need
670- this year. We actually can share the load here and there.
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And, actually, there's some legalities. I'm not saying they've got
to resurface the courts or this.
But we talked about some things where we can sit here and
make sure we're both doing our part a bit and spreading the
wealth and working together and making sure it's just not a blank
check we're writing every year that increases by 15 percent,
because costs have gone up, and then we all just say, yes,
approved, and then, you know, we walk out the door.
So I look for your leadership and guidance to catch those
things ahead of time and then -- and give us proactive
presentations on how we spend TDC money wisely, you know,
other things that maybe we need to invest in, and then also not
being shy to look at some of these organizations saying, I know
you requested X number of dollars but, you know, you all have
done pretty well for yourselves the last couple of years. Where
can you make some investment in this park that has to be a
shining star for you? And, you know, we can -- we can more
wisely spend the TDC dollars, taxpayer dollars that we have, so...
MR. BEIRNES: Duly noted, and we'll commit to that.
Thank you.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Just to follow up about how
this all became and how pickleball took prominence in this
community, early on the concept of pickleball and tourist money
was really questionable. We wondered -- you know,
Commissioner Fiala loved it. She thought it was a great idea.
But what kind of investment? Is this going to make sense?
And so we actually tested it, and we did it through a social
media. And don't ask me what it is, because it wasn't me. I
didn't do it.
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But there was a direct correlation between pickleball and an
age group of people and an income group of people. And what
we found was that people will come to Collier County to watch
pickleball in the off-season. Now, why is that important?
Because their money is going into our community, which is a tax.
And what does that tax go for? Our beaches. This is why we
have the tourist tax. It's the beaches. That's why it was created
in the '90s.
And from that, we found out really quickly, as we moved
along, that folks really don't like to come here when it's
95 degrees and they're sweating, but if you bring something in
front of them to say, you know, this is pretty cool, you may want
to come here, they will.
I think FBU has proved that in the middle of July, football in
the fields. And that money goes into the hotel, which is the tax.
It supports our businesses. And, yes, it goes into our beaches.
That is why when the pier was replaced, we as an entity were
able to loan the City of Naples money so they could repair the
pier.
That is why we have very ample reserves in place so that we
can do a major beach resiliency project. That is tax money at
work, and I think it's well-placed tax money at work.
And this is not Collier County's ideas. This is the State of
Florida. The State of Florida outlined this program, and there's a
reason that Ms. Green sits there from the County Attorney's
Office at every TDC meeting, because she is the one who tells
you whether it's legal or not and, believe me, she is not shy. She
is very good at this.
So, yes, it's a tax, but I was in Collier County when there was
no beach tax. I was in Collier County when the beaches were
not being renourished. And if we hadn't had this, it would have
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been a very different Collier County.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner Solis.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yeah. I just -- for whatever it's
worth, I'd add that, you know, the big competitors for pickleball
for us, I think, is -- one of them is -- I believe it's still Indian
Wells, right, in California?
MS. GRAHAM: Yes.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: And Indian Wells I know fairly
well from the tennis side, because it's one of the premier
professional tennis tournaments in the whole world, really, is
Indian Wells every March. And it's my understanding that
Indian Wells, after the tennis tournament, resurfaces all the
courts, tennis courts, and turns them into pickleball courts, and I
think they do that every year. I mean, so it's just an indication, I
think, of how big pickleball really has become.
And I know when this came to the TDC, all of the TDC
members -- board members were in agreement that this would be
a good investment. And it's also an investment -- correct me if
I'm wrong, but this is an investment in our parks. It's -- I mean,
this isn't a grant to offset some advertising. This is actually
improving our own facility, so we benefit from it in a way.
So I think Commissioner LoCastro raises some great issues:
We always have to be more efficient and more careful with
taxpayer money, but this is -- this is a pretty good investment, I
think.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Well said. Why don't you go
ahead and make a motion?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay. I'll make a motion that
we approve the 670,000 TDC Capital Projects Fund grant.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Second.
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CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And for discussion purposes, I
concur with everything that's been said. Commissioner
LoCastro raises a valid point, not necessarily for this subject
matter, but it has to do with all of our vendor participation
agreements and how we're doing, what we're doing all day long.
We had a similar circumstance with our boat ramps and
commercial operations that were utilizing public facilities, and
Commissioner Solis edified this actual expenditure was an asset
out of a different bucket, if you will, of revenue that helps
everybody in the community as well and supports something.
I mean, I was here when pickleball all started up, and we all
sat around and looked at it and go "really?" because we weren't
really sure it was going to go. And, my goodness, look at the
successes that we've garnered.
So I'm in support of this and, again, in support of my
colleague with regard to the comments and how we're doing,
what we're doing with our vendors, but that's a subject for
another day.
So it's been moved and seconded that we approve this grant
application as requested. Any other discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved. Thank you, Paul.
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MR. BEIRNES: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Now we go to the top of the
list.
Item #11B
ACCEPTED A PROJECT UPDATE TO NCWRF
PRETREATMENT FACILITY PROJECT NO. 70149
CURRENTLY UNDER DESIGN WITH AECOM TECHNICAL
SERVICES (AECOM) THROUGH AGREEMENT NO. 20-7722-
NS. (MATT MCLEAN, PUBLIC UTILITIES ENGINEERING
DIRECTOR) (DISTRICT 2) - APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: Item 11B is a recommendation to
accept a project update to the North Collier Water Reclamation
Facility Pretreatment Facility Project No. 70149 currently under
design with AECOM Technical Services through Agreement
No. 20-7722-NS.
Mr. Matt McLean, your Public Utilities engineering director,
will present.
MR. McLEAN: Good morning, Commissioners, Matt
McLean, your director of Collier County Public Utilities.
We have the pleasure to come and provide you guys with a
quick briefing of what we've been working on lately on our North
County Water Reclamation Facility pretreatment project.
The project location for this particular project is up at our
North County Water Reclamation Facility. That is on the east
side of Goodlette Road just south of Immokalee as shown in the
project location map.
Back in July, we came before you, the Board, to take a little
retooling of this particular project, to go away from the
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design-build concept and go back to a more traditional
design-bid-build contract, which you approved, along with
certifying the existence of the valid public emergency for our
existing pretreatment facility.
At that time we engaged AECOM services to do the design
and bidding services for that particular section of the initial
design.
In August, we started off on the traditional design process
through that retooling and issued the notice to proceed to
AECOM for those design-through-bidding services. One of the
important things that the project team noted right away when we
began our kickoff meeting, due to the fact that the Board
supported that certification of the existence of the valid public
emergency, that schedule was a critical, important item for us, we
worked very diligently with the design team and our project
management team to come up with some coordinated results to
effectively reduce the overall schedule for that design through bid
section of the upcoming project.
Originally, it was expected that we would complete the
design by September of 2023. We're happy to report that with
reallocation of some design services and team members on our
team individually, we were able to compress that down to the
expectation to have 100 percent design plans and bid documents
ready by the end of February in 2023.
In order to do that, we had to provide additional project
management resources to the project on the county's side as well
as get a commitment from our design engineering firm to
coordinate and meet multiple times a week to have an ongoing
dialogue so that we're in a position to be able to have continued
real-time decisions on this particular project. It is a critical
infrastructure project for us, and it demanded that additional
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amount of resources, which we've all put together in order to
accomplish our updated schedule.
So in that lens, we're happy to report that we are on schedule
to complete the 100 percent design plans and go out to bid by the
end of February.
There's a little schematic, if you will, of what the future
facility will look like on this particular slide as well.
I want to dive a little bit deeper into what we've been
working on and what we're looking for to continue to work on to
get through this design-bid phase. We've completed the design
basis of design report in October. One of the things that we're
also working on is a separate project with the existing facility, as
it was certified by you-all for that public emergency. We are in
need to do an interim repair on the existing facility. This is not a
full-blown rehabilitation of the existing facility, but what it is is
that it's an interim repair to allow us and afford us the availability
of timing to complete the design and go directly into construction
on the new facility.
The construction of the new facility is expected to take a
couple of years to complete. We're working as diligently as we
can to try to compress that schedule as well, but with the
knowledge of the existing facility's current status, we will
continue to monitor it and provide an interim structural repair so
that we have the assurances that we need to know that we can
continue to operate the existing facility. This facility provides
the water reclamation facility for all of the northern section of our
county, which equates to over 50 percent of our overall service
area within the Collier County Water and Sewer District.
There are some other important highlight items that we want
to talk with you about today relative to our schedule, and that is
with respect to a sole and single-source equipment waiver
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request. Within Public Utilities we have a lot of specified
equipment that is very critical and important for us within our
wastewater treatment facilities, so we are looking at single and
sole-source equipment waivers over the next couple of months
that will come back to the Board for consideration.
One of the other items that's been very challenging for
Collier County Public Utilities and other capital improvement
projects on behalf of the county is long lead times on materials
and equipments that we need for these respective projects.
So we continue to look at where those items are with our
design team on where they fall in the critical path of our
construction schedule. And currently in our analysis we've
identified several items that we may seek to procure prior to the
overall bid of the construction contract. Right now they
currently are not on the critical path, but as we refine and lead
into the 100 percent complete construction plans and issue that
bid set, we'll be positioned better over the course of the next
couple of months to determine whether or not we feel like we
need to try to procure some of these long-lead-time items ahead
of time to make sure that they stay off that critical path of
schedule noting the importance to continue to compress the
construction schedule as well.
So the goal is to continue to work towards that 100 percent
complete design package and issue our bid set by the end of
February. We feel confident that we're going to be able to make
that with the current design team who are working on this project
daily. It's been a fascinating team that we've put together in
order to continue to fast-track the design process. By doing that
and getting the 100 percent design plans and the bids sent out by
the end of February, that will position us to have ample time to
go through the procurement process and ultimately bring back a
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construction contract for consideration to the Board at a meeting
in May.
So this is our update, and we're asking for -- the Board for a
recommendation to accept the project update, and I'm here to
answer any questions that you may have.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I have no questions. I'm going
to call for a motion, and then I have a comment.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I'll move for approval.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Second.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Second.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and seconded
that we approve this as presented. You know, today is
Commissioner Taylor's and Commissioner Solis' last effective
County Commission board meeting. Commissioner Saunders
and Commissioner LoCastro and myself are here until '24. And
I'm treating my last two years before my reelection as my last two
years, because you just never know. I don't want to leave this
seat not having critical infrastructure under a path of readiness. I
don't want to read things to avoid the imminent -- I think I read in
here, reduce the risk of imminent failure of a critical
infrastructure for our community. I want that done before I
leave this seat in '24. I hope I don't leave the seat in '24. I'm
planning on staying assuming -- assuming as -- assuming
everything goes well, I am planning on running again. I'm not
announcing my retirement by any stretch, but I don't want to read
that. I want direction and priority put on our critical
infrastructure first, please.
MR. McLEAN: Understood.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All right. Any other
comments?
(No response.)
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CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and seconded
that we approve as presented. All in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved. I think you have
another one, don't you, Matthew?
MR. McLEAN: Two more.
MS. PATTERSON: Two more right in a row.
Item #11C
AWARDED CONSTRUCTION INVITATION TO BID (ITB) NO.
22-8019, “CHURCHILL CIRCLE WATER MAIN
REPLACEMENT” TO DOUGLAS N. HIGGINS INC., IN THE
AMOUNT OF $1,295,947, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN
TO SIGN THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT. (PROJECT #71010)
(MATT MCLEAN, PUBLIC UTILITIES ENGINEERING
DIRECTOR) (DISTRICT 3) – APPROVED
Item 11C is a recommendation to award Construction
Invitation to Bid No. 22-8019, Church Hill Circle Water Main
Replacement, to Douglas N. Higgins, Inc., in the amount of
$1,295,947, and authorize the Chairman to sign the attached
agreement.
Mr. Matt McLean will present or answer questions.
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MR. McLEAN: Again, Matt McLean, for the record, with
Public Utilities.
There was a brief presentation that was included with the
agenda item. Happy to answer any questions, or I can go
through that agenda -- or that presentation, whatever the pleasure
of the Board is.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I'll call for a motion.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I'll move to approve.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Second.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Second.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and seconded
as presented. Any other discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved.
MS. PATTERSON: You're going to have two more.
Item #11D
AWARDED CONSTRUCTION INVITATION TO BID (ITB) NO.
22-7965R, - “GOLDEN GATE CITY TRANSMISSION WATER
MAIN IMPROVEMENTS – PHASE 2” TO D.B.E.
MANAGEMENT, LLC, D/B/A DBE UTILITY SERVICES, IN THE
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AMOUNT OF $6,737,736, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN
TO SIGN THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT. (PROJECT #70253
AND #51029) (MATT MCLEAN, PUBLIC UTILITIES
ENGINEERING DIRECTOR) (COMPANION ITEM TO #11E)
(DISTRICT 3) – APPROVED
Item #11E
APPROVED THE SELECTION COMMITTEE’S RANKING AND
AUTHORIZE STAFF TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT
NEGOTIATIONS WITH AIM ENGINEERING AND
SURVEYING, INC., RELATED TO REQUEST FOR
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES (“RPS”) NO. 22-8042 FOR “CEI
SERVICES FOR GOLDEN GATE CITY TRANSMISSION
WATER MAIN IMPROVEMENTS,” AND BRING A PROPOSED
AGREEMENT BACK FOR THE BOARD’S CONSIDERATION
AT A FUTURE MEETING. (MATT MCLEAN, PUBLIC
UTILITIES ENGINEERING DIRECTOR) (COMPANION ITEM
TO #11D) (DISTRICT 3) - APPROVED
Item 11D and 11E are companion items. This is a
recommendation to award Construction Invitation to Bid
No. 22-7965R, Golden Gate City Transmission Water Main
Improvements, Phase 2, to D.B.E. Management, LLC, doing
business as DBE Utility Services, in the amount of $6,737,736,
and authorize the Chairman to sign the attached agreement.
Its companion item is a recommendation to approve the
selection committee's ranking and authorize staff to enter into
contract negotiations with AIM Engineering and Surveying, Inc.,
related to the Request for Professional Services No. 22-8042, for
CEI services for Golden Gate City Transmission Water Main
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Improvements, and bring a proposed agreement back for the
Board's consideration at a future meeting.
Mr. Matt McLean, your Public Utilities engineering director,
is here to answer questions or present both items.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Move approval.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Second.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and seconded
that we approve as presented.
As a matter of comment, I want to thank Commissioner
Saunders for leading the charge and taking over that utility,
FGUA, back in the day. You made a comment back in the day
we voted to buy that that was much to the chagrin of some of the
leadership of our community, that it was probably one of the
most important acquisitions that we did as a seated board, and I
can't concur more.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: This is the end round on that
process. A large portion of the City of Golden Gate is still on
septic and well with health issues on proximity to septic systems
and the like for the water, and this is the beginning of the -- of
that process of conversion over to and providing for the health of
the community.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you,
Mr. Chairman. I appreciate those comments.
When I ran for office in 2016, one of my goals was to pay a
lot of attention to the Golden Gate City community. And one of
the big problems there was, as you mentioned, a lot of
folks -- most of the folks there were on wells and septic systems
with septic systems failing and with their water treatment systems
not working particularly well because these are rental properties,
and some of the landlords were not taking care of those facilities.
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And by acquiring that -- and we were able to acquire it at no
cost. That was the understanding we had. I think we're able
to -- we will be -- over the next several years be able to bring
good quality water service to that entire area and, as important,
ultimately bring quality sewer service, get all those folks off of
septic systems, because there are a couple thousand septic tanks
in that area, and there's leachate going into the Golden Gate
Canal, which ultimately gets into the Naples Bay and creates all
sorts of problems.
So I appreciate your comments, Mr. Chairman, and certainly
appreciate the Board's support of the acquisition of that utility
system.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's one of those -- one of those
flying-under-the-radar things that we do in leadership that a lot of
folks don't even realize while it's happening. And you did, you
stated it at that meeting, and I just want to thank you for going
forward.
All right. Let's go. Moved and seconded that we accept
and approve as presented. Any other discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved.
MR. McLEAN: Thank you.
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Item #11F
APPROVED THE AWARD OF INVITATION TO BID (ITB) NO.
21-7932 “CORKSCREW ROAD AT WILDCAT DRIVE” TO
OHLA USA, INC., IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,103,968.10,
AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE ATTACHED
CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AGREEMENT, AND APPROVE
THE ATTACHED BUDGET AMENDMENT. (JAY AHMAD,
DIRECTOR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING)
(COMPANION ITEM TO #11G) (DISTRICT 5) - APPROVED
Item #11G
APPROVED AND AUTHORIZED THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN A
LOCALLY FUNDED AGREEMENT (LFA) WITH THE FLORIDA
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (FDOT) TO PROVIDE
A LUMP SUM DEPOSIT IN THE AMOUNT OF $105,547.32 TO
SUPPORT THE CONSTRUCTION ENGINEERING INSPECTION
(CEI) OF THE ROADWAY SAFETY - IMPROVEMENT ON
CORKSCREW ROAD AT WILDCAT DRIVE - PROJECT #60233
WHICH IS AN FDOT LOCAL AGENCY PROGRAM (LAP)
PROJECT. (JAY AHMAD, DIRECTOR TRANSPORTATION
ENGINEERING) (COMPANION ITEM TO #11F) (DISTRICT 5) -
ADOPTED
MS. PATTERSON: Items 11F and 11G are also companion
items. This is a recommendation to approve the Award of
Invitation to Bid No. 21-7932, Corkscrew Road at Wildcat Drive,
to OHLA USA, Inc., in the amount of $2,103,968.10, authorize
the Chairman to sign the attached construction services
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agreement, and approve the attached budget amendments.
Its companion is a recommendation to approve and authorize
the Chairman to sign a locally funded agreement with the Florida
Department of Transportation to provide a lump sum deposit in
the amount of $105,557.32 to support the Construction
Engineering Inspection of the roadway safety improvement on
Corkscrew Road at Wildcat Drive, Project 60233, which is an
FDOT local agency program project.
Mr. Jay Ahmad, your director of Transportation Engineering,
is here to answer questions or present.
MR. AHMAD: Good morning, Mr. Chairman,
Commissioners. Jay Ahmad, again. The item before you, I'd be
happy to present -- I have a presentation -- or I can answer
questions. I also included a PowerPoint presentation in the
executive summary, so...
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It was already in our package.
I just --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I'll make a motion to
approve it. This is a great PowerPoint, and --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Right.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: -- thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Both items?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes, yes.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: F and G. It's moved and
seconded. Moved and seconded that we approve both items. Is
this -- is this going to straighten out that deathtrap at the corner?
MR. AHMAD: Yes, sir. It's a 90-degree curve --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: We know.
MR. AHMAD: -- and lots of crashes over here.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's adeptly named.
(Simultaneous crosstalk.)
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CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Well, we're going to save
money in construction costs just replacing the signs that warn
everybody that you're about to make a hard right, so...
We have public comment?
MR. MILLER: Yes, sir. I have one registered comment,
Ed Brantley.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: You pick a side, Ed.
MR. BRANTLEY: All right. Is this good to go? Thank
you.
Good morning, Commissioners. My name's Ed Brantley.
I'm here today to encourage you to vote yes for Agenda Item 11F.
I live right next to that deadly trap, the corner. I've personally
pulled out people from car wrecks there, so it's a very bad
intersection.
So this project is intended to improve public safety at the
intersection of Corkscrew Road and Wildcat Drive. I've
personally witnessed a dramatic increase in car accidents at this
intersection during the last couple of decades, especially with the
population growth.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Where do you live over there?
MR. BRANTLEY: On the corner of Wildcat and
Corkscrew.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Oh, yeah, you're right up there
on the --
MR. BRANTLEY: Yeah, so the cars come onto our
property.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Sure.
MR. BRANTLEY: But the road configuration, it's just an
old design that was never intended for the traffic volumes and the
population that we have today. So this project has been in the
works for many years now. The Collier County staff had done a
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good job of researching, planning, and preparing the project for
execution. I've reviewed the proposed plans, and I feel that it
will greatly improve public safety, so I'm grateful that you guys
are working on this.
And I look forward to seeing this project go into construction
soon. So thank you for your time.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Appreciate you coming today.
Next time you can just call me, and I'll save you a trip.
MR. BRANTLEY: Thanks.
THE COURT REPORTER: Who was the second? She
moved. Who seconded?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner Taylor made the
motion, Commissioner LoCastro seconded it.
With that, without any further ado, all in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved.
Item #11J
ACCEPTED THE ANNUAL BUSINESS PLAN FOR PARADISE
COAST SPORTS COMPLEX FROM SPORTS FACILITIES
MANAGEMENT, LLC. (MARISSA BAKER, SPORTS COMPLEX
MANAGER) (ALL DISTRICTS) -APPROVED
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MS. PATTERSON: Item 11J is a recommendation to
accept the Annual Business Plan for Paradise Coast Sports
Complex from Sports Facilities Management, LLC.
Ms. Marissa Baker, sport complex manager, will begin the
presentation.
MS. BAKER: Good morning, Commissioners.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Hello.
MS. BAKER: For the record, Marissa Baker, Manager for
Paradise Coast Sports Complex with Collier County.
Today we're just here to share some insight with you about
what we've been able to accomplish for the last year and the plans
that we have for the upcoming fiscal year.
Now, one of the things you guys asked, Commissioners, not
too long ago was for more transparency and communication on
what's going on at the sports complex. This is certainly part of
that effort.
Collier County entered into an agreement with Sports
Facilities Management on November 12th of 2021 governing the
management of the sports complex on behalf of Collier County.
As a contract deliverable, Sports Facilities is required to
submit and present an annual business plan that includes a
year-end review, an outline of the budget, and the strategy for the
upcoming fiscal year.
With that, I will hand the presentation over to Jack Adams
and Adrian Moses with Sports Facilities Management.
MR. ADAMS: Good morning. Jack Adams with Sports
Facilities Management.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: How you doing, Jack?
MR. ADAMS: I'm doing great. Nice to see you guys.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Are you? Good.
MR. ADAMS: Just a little snapshot of the agenda that we
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want to cover. The financial performance. I want to talk a little
bit about visits, because we understand that that -- three things
from the time we were hired that we were tasked to do was
increase community usage, community visits, tourism dollars,
and make the park more sustainable financially. And then we'll
talk about 2023.
So this is just a look, an overhead of the progress on the park
right now, and this is what it will look like when done. So the
final revenue that we've produced at the park for 2022 is a million
and four. There's a gross profit also called business income of
375K positive there. Prior year-end gross profit was a negative
112-, so that's an improvement on that business income, which is
the revenue minus the cost of goods, the direct cost of producing
that revenue, an improvement of 487K.
The park operating expenses were 911-. So the net expense
to Collier County was a negative 535-. Prior year, your net
expense was a million, 590. So that's an improvement of just
over a million dollars.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: What do you account for
that?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Superior management.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I asked him.
MR. ADAMS: Well -- superior management was a great
answer. Thanks whoever --
(Simultaneous crosstalk.)
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Do a deeper dive.
MR. ADAMS: I'll definitely do that.
You paid a management fee to the prior user of 350,000.
We don't come with a management fee. We make money once
you do, which is why we talk about the fields and getting those
fields done so often is because that's when we start getting paid as
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well, as you also get paid. So we have -- we have very
symbiotic interests there.
The other thing is the cost of goods were very different.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Okay.
MR. ADAMS: There are a couple reasons for that. But I
don't have intricate financials from our predecessor. I have sort
of high level, but there appear to be a cost of delivery to those
products that are maybe a little easier on us because we're just a
bigger organization and can support that without having to
burden this specific park with those costs. Those are costs borne
at our home office.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: And I remember those
were positive things you said in your initial proposal, and so it's
good to see the result.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: The proof's in the pudding.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yup.
MR. ADAMS: This is what happened with visits. So
although -- although we were here 10 months out of the 12, you
see an 87 to 88 percent year-to-date increase over park visits.
That's all visits, so that includes community foot traffic, that
includes the traffic for the events themselves.
You can even see the little breakdowns; it's the tiny numbers.
It's the Factory and the Cove.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So you're actually tracking
where the -- where the folks are going when they come to the
park in the different -- in the different venues that are availed
there?
MR. ADAMS: Yes. And, specifically, through
transactions. So we know when we have a tournament, there's
this amount registrations for the tournament. We know when we
have the Factory, that there’s this amount of check-ins at the
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Factory. At the Cove we know how many transactions, so we
just have different mechanisms for that.
And the best is yet to come. So here's 2023. There's a
pretty detailed strategy document that we submitted. But, in
short, we want to increase the local programming use, so we're
going to -- we're going to book at a higher capacity, then we're
going to meet and exceed the Factory gym revenue target.
You'll see the high-quality self-operated sports leagues when
the park, with our partnership -- when we have our own
programs, those are more profitable for the park than a program
that is brought in and pays rent, because they then pay rent, and
then they make a profit, and then they take that away.
So we don't want to cannibalize or hurt a quality product
that's already going on in Collier County, but there are plenty of
things that can be done and that we can start these self-operated
leagues, and that will help make the park more self-sustaining.
So this is part of our local programming strategy.
The economic impact strategy is to book a variety of
tournament events and to host major sporting events. In
December of 2023, we anticipate a 192-team weeklong event that
will be the highest -- the largest sporting event and the highest
hotel use in the park's history. That will be a lot more
impressive when the park is 20 years old, but we're still saying it.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's two years old, so...
MR. ADAMS: It's a huge event. Even for our venues even
around the country, that's a really, really big one, and we're
excited about it.
For local exposure for community and cultural events, we are
targeting doing a cultural event per quarter and, you know,
FallFest, concert, something -- the arts, something that isn't just a
direct sports. And then -- and those are major events, and then
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monthly cultural events of some type. And we've done these
throughout this year, and you can see some cute little pictures
there so far, but more to come.
And then on the financial targets, we're going to do a better
job of converting the ancillary revenue from events. So
whenever an event comes, there's also food and beverage.
We've just a food truck started that's been real productive.
There's some other things we've done that have been successful,
and we have more to bring online. Sponsorships that are in the
works. You've -- we've seen one -- one sponsorship so far.
There are more behind that, and we expect that to keep
improving.
And then just the operational economy. When we have
more fields, we don't have more -- we have only incremental
more G&A costs. You'll have a few more salaries with more
fields but, generally speaking, most of the expenses are already
done, so we only have that business profit. And so with those
extra fields, that's how we're going to cover that remaining gap
and get to profitability, which is exciting for all of us, I assure
you.
So the current budget that we've submitted and has been
approved is for a million three in revenue and a venue profit of
negative 169-. That could change since we understand that
there's some potential change to the dates that the fields come
online. So, you know, the quicker those fields come online, the
better that number gets.
Assuming that all the fields are online, we have just put the
little 2024 revenue and venue profit number there for you. That
still escalates. So when we have an event for the first time,
teams have a great time, and then they come back, and there are
more teams. So that event gets bigger year over year. So we
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need to get that event in there for the first -- in the first place, and
then we want to watch it grow. So the sooner that happens, the
quicker that hockey stick happens.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: There you are.
MR. ADAMS: The gentleman that's been leading our effort
right behind me has nothing to add but deserves the credit.
I also just want to say thank you just because I have this
moment. We're at the end of a year. I really appreciate Dan
Rodriguez. I appreciate all the county management. Marissa
Baker, we have really enjoyed working with you over the last
year. We've got nothing but support. You are premier and
awesome partners, and I just appreciate the opportunity.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Thank you, Jack. We're -- I
have -- Commissioner LoCastro's going to come at you now.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: No, not come at you.
How often are you scheduled in 2023 to come before us?
Quarterly? I mean, I'd like to get a -- and if it's not in this forum,
I'd like to be sent, you know, hey, in the first quarter of 2023,
how's the algorithm looking? You know, are you on track to still
lose 169, you know, thousand dollars or, you know, we had a
really good spring or, you know, you made some changes.
So, you know, I mean, I think this is such a big venue, and
we've invested so much in it. And I'm sure it's not your plan, but
I don't want to be surprised in December of 2023 to get your
2023, you know, financials, and I'm sure that's not your plan.
But I don't know -- Amy, I mean, quarterly are they, you
know, on the -- will be on the agenda to brief us, you know?
Because what you just briefed was great. You know, this was
the 50,000-foot view. It was, hey, here's where the numbers are.
And I just think it's important for not only us. I mean, you can
meet with us anytime. But one of the reasons why we have this
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meeting, because we're going on the record for citizens to see,
you know, where we're successful and that we're not asleep at the
wheel. You know, I, for one, would love to see something like
this as a minimum on a quarterly basis to see if we're tracking as
we get to the end of the year and if these numbers are sort of, you
know, matching, you know, we get a good business presentation,
you know, at least quarterly. So, I don't know. Just a thought.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Sure, Commissioner, very good
question.
For the record, Dan Rodriguez, your Deputy County
Manager.
Contractually, they'd required to come back annually for
their business approach.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Okay.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: However, if the County Manager and
Board prefer an earlier update on a quarterly basis or biannual,
we can certainly accommodate that.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Or quarterly if we ask them
nice. I'm sure he can whip up something for us once a quarter.
MR. ADAMS: We sure can. We do a monthly review
with the county on our financial, and we also present to the TDC
monthly. It's not a formal presentation like this one, but those
numbers are going in on a regular basis, so we're already
producing --
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: This is a good formal, you
know, time to take what would you have been presenting in
smaller, little groups. And I personally think you're on a great
trajectory, so it's a good story to tell. So if the contract says once
a year, I'd be fighting to get onto the podium here every quarter
and saying, you know, hey, we're holding our own during a tough
economic time, or we came up with some great ideas, and then
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also, too, it gives us a chance to maybe brainstorm some things
and in a public forum say, you know, there's a couple of ideas
that I've heard from citizens or from our constituents. So I
just -- you know, I propose it as a very beneficial idea, you know,
on a quarterly basis to do something formal like this in this type
of format which was, hey, here's the money, here was our
projected numbers.
We missed it or we hit or we exceeded it. And then
throughout the year, throughout each month, I'm sure there's
going to be new things that come to you. I've love to see a slide
that says, hey, we got a call that in August we actually are going
to have a bigger event than in December. It totally dropped in
our lap. I mean, this would be the forum, you know, to do it.
But I appreciate this presentation. It shows us heading in a
much more positive direction with a lot more meat on the bone,
which is what we -- that's why we hired you-all, and so I -- you
know, like Commissioner McDaniel said, the proof is starting to
show, so don't miss the opportunity to continue to tell us the
situation at the sports complex and the financial numbers and the
attendance numbers, things like that. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Make a motion.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: So I make a motion we
approve.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Second.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and seconded
that we approve as presented. Is there any other discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
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COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved.
Thank you, Jack.
MR. ADAMS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And, Marissa. And, Adam?
MR. MOSES: Adrian.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Adrian. Forgive me.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Are we still working on the Foo
Fighters concert sometime?
MS. BAKER: Just for you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: We're going to name it the
Andy Solis Food Fighters concert.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: No, it's not the Food
Fighters. Gosh, man. What year were you born?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Well --
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: It's Foo Fighters, right?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Not this century.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: He said Food Fighters.
Did you get that on record, Terri?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: She wrote it down.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: It's a new food truck
band, the Food Fighters.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All right. Let's go.
Item #11K
ACCEPTED AN UPDATE FROM FOOTBALL UNIVERSITY, AN
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ENTITY UNDER THE FOOTBALL DIVISION OF 3 STEP
SPORTS, LLC. (MARISSA BAKER, SPORTS COMPLEX
MANAGER) (ALL DISTRICTS) - APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: Item 11K is a recommendation to
accept an update from Football University, an entity under the
football division of Three Step Sports, LLC.
Ms. Marissa Baker, sports complex manager, will begin the
presentation.
MS. BAKER: Hello again. Once again, Marissa Baker,
sports complex manager.
So just here to introduce Steve Quinn who's the managing
partner for FBU. Collier County has an agreement with Football
University for them to bring down their two major events
annually. One being the national championship and the other
being the Top Gun showcase.
You know, we didn't mention it in the last presentation, but
that major event that we were talking about is the AYF,
American Youth Football National Championships, and we
attribute a lot of our ability to get an event like that to our
partnership with FBU, because they have really paved the way
for football at Paradise Coast Sports Complex.
That being said, Steve is going to present and outline the
benefits of this partnership to Collier County.
MR. QUINN: Thank you, Marissa.
For the record, my name is Steve Quinn, managing partner
for Football University.
I'm just going to go off of this one-pager that I think is up
there. I can't see it from here, but I have my notes.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Do you want my glasses?
MR. QUINN: What's that? Can I use them? No, I'm
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good. Thank you. Thank you.
Someone once told me, be brief, be brilliant, and be gone, so
here we go, all right. So I know you guys have got a lot going
on today.
But FBU for some of you -- and I know I talked to Andy a
couple of weeks ago -- is the single biggest middle school
football tournament in the country. We do three different events
here. We do a freshman All American Bowl, which is 70 of the
top freshmen athletes in the country that will be here in about six
weeks. December 20th there will probably be 3,500 people in
the stands. I know Penny was out last year, and a couple of you
also were out last year.
Some of these athletes, they're freshmen in high school,
already have multiple Power Five offers, multiple Division 1
offers, and they're freshmen in high school. I know our
offensive line last year averaged 6'3", 290 as freshmen. So that's
our freshmen game.
We have a Football University national championship
tournament which is also going to be here during that time.
That's the Top 10U, 10 and under, and then sixth grade, seventh
grade, and eighth grade teams, that will advance from regional
tournaments during that time. That's December 16th and 20th.
And then in July, as Penny had mentioned, is our Top Gun event.
Somehow we ended up getting 1,600 kids here in 95-degree
weather, and we skirt the rain and the thunderstorms every day,
and we put on a Top Gun event with the top 1,600 kids and their
families in July every year.
We really consider ourselves kind of the marketing arm of
the Paradise Coast. Last year, we had nearly 10,000 room
nights, we had over 15,000 spectators here with those three
events and, really, everything is kind of derived from what we
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call hashtag Path to Naples or Paradise Coast.
And just to kind of go off on that a little bit, starting in
March every year, we do a showcase across 39 cities across the
country. So think of Ringling Brothers, Barnum & Bailey's
Circus. That's what we do for football.
We pack two trucks with football equipment, and we sent
one truck east of Texas, one truck west of Texas, and in 39 cities
we bring in current and former NFL coaches and players, and
they coach up kids for two days from fifth grade through 11th
grade.
And so the top 40 percent of those athletes get invited, they
get an invite like this that says Path to Naples. We call it the
golden ticket with the logo on the back, and they take pictures at
the camps, and they get invited to Naples, Florida, to our Top
Gun event in July. And so that's -- that's our camp series, those
39 cities culminating in July with our Top Gun event.
Our tournament that's coming up here in December in two
weeks or three weeks will actually be in eight regional sites, and
in those eight regional sites there will be 10U teams, sixth grade
teams, seventh grade teams, and eighth grade teams. So from
Seattle to Miami, from Rhode Island to Los Angeles, from
Indiana to Texas, there will be eight regional sites going on, and
the winners will advance to Naples, Florida, to play for a national
championship. And all part of that marketing is Path to Naples
and Paradise Coast.
So it really is a year-round marketing that we're doing for
Collier County. I think three years ago when the sports park was
first getting built, we were kind of that arm that helped people
learn about it and kind of know that it was down here. Then we
started putting these jerseys on all the kids, which has the logo of
the Paradise Coast on there. On the back it has Southwest
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Florida. This is last year's jersey, but this year's jersey will have
Path to Naples on the collar. So all the kids -- there's about
7,000 kids that will be wearing that jersey. So it's kind of neat
when I go out to LA and I go out to a practice and somebody
from LA's wearing a jersey with the logo of Southwest Florida on
that. So we're marketing the facility and Naples year-round.
Being a football company, it's amazing our social media
presence, and it's second to none when it comes to that. So this
year currently -- and I'm not sure how much you know about
TikTok and Instagram and Twitter, but that's where all the kids
live. And this year so far we've had 130,000 million -- that's
1-3-0 million views of our different videos that we put out. One
TikTok video has over five million views of one of the athletes
jumping over another athlete in the freshmen game here in
Naples this past year.
So we judge a lot of what we do by our social media. And
so we're projecting to do about 200 million views with everything
that is on those social media posts as Paradise Coast and Path to
Naples. Also, all the kids will get the golden tickets, the jerseys.
So everywhere across the country, we're marketing Path to
Naples.
The one big thing that I didn't get an opportunity to talk too
much when I was at the TDC meeting is our partnership with the
All American Bowl and NBC, which used to be the U.S. Army
All American Bowl. That is the biggest high school All
American game in the country. It's where all the five-star
athletes get an opportunity to play. They come to San Antonio
the first week in January, and they play in an East versus West
format in the Alamo Dome in San Antonio, Texas.
Working with Paul and his team and Jack before that, we've
actually worked out two 30-second commercials that are actually
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on NBC during that time that talk about -- and, obviously, it's a
commercial about the Paradise Coast. And so that's on NBC.
Last year 3.2 million people watched that game, so it's another
great advertisement for the Paradise Coast.
On a sidenote, this year we've actually invited three local
players to play in that game. Would they be invited on their own
merit? They're good football players. One is from First Baptist;
he's committed to Clemson. One is from -- two from Naples
High School. One is committed to Cincinnati, the other one to
Arkansas, but because of our relationship with Collier County,
we try to get one or two players to play in that high school game
every year, and it's, obviously, risen their stock, and they've
gotten more offers, which is great for them as well.
But those three players will play in those games as well as
we've invited over 50 players to participate in our National
Combine in San Antonio as well.
We're also committed to the growth of the tourism here in
Collier County. Part of our agreement with Collier County is on
top of the events that we bring here, Football University events,
we need to bring four organic events to Collier County. At the
end of this year, we'll have our fourth organic event, which is a
lacrosse event that's going to be coming, I believe, with about 60
teams.
On top of that, we've also referred an additional 14 either
partnered or referred events to the sports complex that we've
actually worked with Adrian and his crew on referring those
events over there, football and other events.
And there's also a hockey event, a field hockey event, I
believe, that Adrian's working on with 120 teams and over 700
coaches that are going to be coming here in January of 2024.
So for those of you that don't know me, I think I've been up
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here a few times, I'm a 25-year vet of Collier County, back and
forth a few times, so I'm really woven into the fabric of this
community, especially on the sports end.
So one of the things I did when I decided to take on this job
13 years ago and move my family up to New Jersey, not once,
but twice -- we move back and forth -- was that I was going to
get back to Collier County and the kids here.
And the platform that I've been giving on a personal level has
been able to help out hundreds of kids go out and play football
and use football as a vehicle for an education because of what we
do here in Collier County.
And so, I appreciate you allowing me to do that. There's
nothing better than for me to walk into the mall on a Saturday
afternoon and see kids that I coached when they were four and
five years old, and they've gone on and finished their careers, and
they come up to me and say thank you. And so I will continue
that venture for as long as I can.
And I encourage you guys to come out. On December 17th
is our opening ceremony. We'll probably have about 4,000
people out there. And then on December 20th is the freshmen
All American Bowl, and we'll pack the stadium as well at that
time. So I appreciate you guys being part of that. Hope you
guys come out, and I'm here to answer any questions if you have
any.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Thank you, Steve.
Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: So part of the executive
summary, Steve, obviously, you know, the big bullet that jumps
out at you is it says, Collier County agrees to pay FBU a
sponsorship fee in the sum of $500,000, you know, for each year
for the -- for two events. So it's half a million bucks.
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Obviously, you have -- your organization, then, has a requirement
to turn in reports, I would guess, to the Clerks of Courts --
MR. QUINN: Yep.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: -- of how that money's
being spent, where it went, and et cetera, correct?
MR. QUINN: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: So alls I would say is in
the past, you know, we've had some organizations that have
gotten some pretty big checks out of the county -- I won't name
who they are, but they know who they are. Crystal certainly
knows who they are -- who got great investment out of us, but
their reports were really thin. Don't let that happen here. You
know, you've got a great -- and I'm not saying you are, but just as
a reminder, you know, that's the bread and butter where we can
read something and say, wow, that was a $500,000 investment
that was well worth it and, you know, you're not just doing great
things with the kids, but you're crossing the T's and dotting the I's
when it comes to accounting and the requirement the county has
to get a detailed report on where this money went. I mean, the
bottom line is, if you only spend $450,000, I expect you to write
a check for the money that's remaining and give it back to the
county because you didn't need it.
So, you know, sometimes we see these fees, and they're just
big flat fees, you know, we need half a million dollars. So I can
tell you, I, for one, am going to be, you know, looking for that
report, and you could really earn yourself a lot of positive vibes
from us when we see that not only do you have a great sporting
team, but you also have a great accounting team.
And you're also spending that money judicially. So it's not a
gift. It's not, hey, we got 500,000. Let's see -- you know, let's
buy fur coats for everybody. You know, and I say that, you
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know, sort of not literally. But there are times, just as I was
saying to the folks that are managing the sports complex, where,
you know, you should be looking for ways where you can spend
that money wisely, not waste it, and then also in the report prove
to us that it was worth the investment.
And so I guess we'll be looking for those reports, you know,
over 2023. Those are important documents that just don't get
filed in a file cabinet. We have, you know, staff and the
commissioners here who look at those very closely.
So, you know, I just mention that to you, that, you know,
finish the job after all these events are done and document so that
we know that this is, indeed, a good investment, and it wasn't just
a great thing for the kids but, financially, it was money well spent
and we know where you spent it, you know.
MR. QUINN: Yes, sir, I know --
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Fair enough?
MR. QUINN: You can rest assured that will be done.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: While you're going, why don't
you make a motion?
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I make a motion to
approve.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Second.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and seconded
that we approve and accept the FBU's presentation.
MR. QUINN: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Any other discussion? Let me
call for the vote. We haven't voted yet.
MR. QUINN: Oh, I'm sorry.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
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COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved.
MR. QUINN: Am I good?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yeah, you're good.
MR. QUINN: Thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All right.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Well, that remains to be
seen, okay? You're not done.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I was just going to say, that's a
judgment call for a later date.
MR. QUINN: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I don't want to rush this
afternoon. Let's just -- let's go ahead and take our lunch break
and come back at 1:03.
MS. PATTERSON: Okay. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: How about that?
MS. PATTERSON: Absolutely.
(A brief luncheon was had from 12:03 p.m. to 1:03 p.m.)
MS. PATTERSON: Chair, you have a live mic.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay. Happy to be back. I'm
pretty sure I did say 1:04, though. I did say 3? John -- okay.
John's giving me the -- okay.
Item #11L
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APPROVED THE PROPOSED COLLIER COUNTY STATE AND
FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE AND ADMINISTRATIVE
PRIORITIES FOR 2023. (JOHN MULLINS, DIRECTOR OF
COMMUNICATIONS, GOVERNMENT & PUBLIC AFFAIRS)
(ALL DISTRICTS) - APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: Okay. This brings us to Item 11L is a
recommendation to approve the proposed Collier County state
and federal legislative and administrative priorities for 2023.
John Mullins, your director of Communications,
Government, and Public Affairs, will present.
MR. MULLINS: For the record, John Mullins, director of
Communications, Government, and Public Affairs.
And in your packet today is the proposed 2023 state and
federal legislative and administrative priorities.
Now, this document was produced in conjunction with your
lobbying teams, with county staff and leadership, and with your
individual input, and I appreciate the comments and suggestions
that were received from you.
Now, this is not an exhaustive list but a snapshot in time.
So any issues that come in the next several months, if we cannot
derive direction from this document in addressing them, they will
be brought before you for your guidance.
The issues listed in this document are in alphabetical order,
not by order of importance, just so everybody knows. And
selected issues from this document will be presented by Chair
McDaniel at the legislative delegation meeting on December 6th
here in this room. Please note the venue change. And Troy is
still celebrating.
Given you were previously provided this document, I am
happy to just take any questions you may have on the myriad
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issues listed therein. The only thing I would ask is if and when
you get to a motion to approve, I would ask the Chair also be
authorized to draft any correspondence in relation to the issues
contained therein.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: How you all doing?
Everybody okay with it?
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: You're going to make
some comments at that event, right?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Oh, absolutely. Well, I'll try to
keep my comments to a low roar and reflect what the Board's
priorities are and so on.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I mean, I planned on
attending, but when I saw that you were making comments, I just
assumed you were speaking on behalf of all of us.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I am.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: So we all don't need to,
like, get a gold star for all speaking at the podium or anything,
right? But it would be valuable to attend, I assumed. I looked
at the agenda. It was --
MR. MULLINS: And as was mentioned this morning, the
proclamation you adopted on -- or for Senator -- or President
Passidomo will be presented to her formally at that meeting.
And just to let you know, too, Rep Rommel and his staff
coordinate this meeting again this year, and they have always
been kind enough to place the Chair at the beginning of the
agenda. So when the meeting starts at 9:00 on December 6th,
we will probably be at 9:05. So if you're coming, you want to
come early.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Great, okay.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And I'd be happy to do it.
Commissioner Solis.
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COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yeah. And one of the
priorities -- let me get back to it -- is long-term transparent
National Flood Insurance Program reauthorization. That's a
great priority, especially the transparent part, if we can add some
transparency to that. But I just wanted to add out of recent
personal experience and for people that may be having to work
through flood insurance after the storm, there is an Office of the
Flood Insurance advocate within FEMA that I didn't know about,
and their sole job is to help the policyholders with issues with
FEMA. And I was amazed at how effective they were. And we
ought to, if we get a chance, let people know that that's out there,
because I just happened upon it by chance. I mean, did
anybody -- does anybody -- did anybody know that that was out
there?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: No.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Because I didn't, and it turned
out that it was a great thing to use, if -- so maybe we could
broadcast that somehow that if anybody's having to work through
unusual issues of some kind with FEMA and -- well, not FEMA,
but the National Flood Insurance Program, that they contact the
advocate.
MR. MULLINS: I think my staff is probably listening to
this meeting right now and will look up the appropriate
information and contacts and make sure that that is put out on our
social media channels.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: It could be very, very helpful to
people. Yeah, thanks.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Absolutely. And thank you for
sharing that. And just as an aside, anything that any of us
happen to run into semi-happenstancely, I mean, we -- I know we
do several things with the agricultural community and the ag
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commissioner's office with different programs that are, in fact,
available, and we provide that through our website to the
community as well, so -- but if anybody runs across something
that you think is of value, let us all know.
So thank you, Commissioner Solis.
All right. I'm going to call for a motion for approval.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So move.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Second.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and seconded
that the legislative priorities be -- do you have a -- be approved as
submitted.
And a comment, Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Yeah. I was going to
actually make a comment after the vote, but I'll make it now.
The Governor and Cabinet is scheduled to meet on December --
MR. MULLINS: Thirteenth.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: -- 13th, and on that
agenda may very well be the final approval, if that final approval
is even needed, by the Governor and Cabinet for the veterans
nursing home location in Collier County. My plan is to be there
for that meeting because we have -- obviously, we have to have
representation there. That's also a County Commission board
meeting day.
So as soon as that item is finished, I'll call in for the meeting,
but I wanted to just alert the Board that if that occurs that day, I
will miss the first part of the meeting.
MR. MULLINS: Yeah. And we probably won't have an
agenda for that meeting until seven to 10 days out from it, and
then we'll know if it's on there or not. And just to kind of add to
the commissioner's comment, as you well know, there so no
statutorily driven process on site selection, and after the 2014 site
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selection process where we went from one to seven, the next year
a few counties that also felt the burn introduced some legislation
to try to put together a normal process. That legislation never
got traction. So still to this day there's not really a formal
process in place.
Now, thanks to Senator Passidomo and the General
Appropriations Act last session, that language was put into the
bill that prompted FDVA to do a site selection process and to
report the recommendations by August 1st to the Governor and
Cabinet. And on July 13th, they submitted that letter, and we
were recommended to be next, followed by Marion County after
us.
Now, FDVA since then has said, given the fact that there's no
real formal site selection process, they may not necessarily need
the Governor and the Cabinet to ratify this selection.
Now, should that be the case, the Governor's office has
already pledged to work with us to make sure next steps are done
appropriately, that we have formal recognition of being the next
site in their eyes, and then we'll help with the state application
process, of course, for construction funds that would follow that
in the future once the design of the facility has been done.
So right now we're waiting to see, A, if they place it on that
agenda for the Cabinet on December 13th and, if not, then we
will work with the Governor's office to take the next appropriate
steps.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: There you are. It's been
moved and seconded for approval. Any other discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
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CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved. Thank you, sir.
MR. MULLINS: And with a little personal privilege here, I
would just like to thank Commissioner Taylor and Commissioner
Solis. Your enthusiasm, your advocacy and input over the years
for this legislative program, any successes that we have enjoyed
over the last several years are in no small part due to your
participation, so thank you.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you.
Item #11M
REVIEWED THE PROPOSED “ROCK THE RED USA” EVENT
AS REQUESTED BY FLORIDA’S VOICE AND ACCEPT
STAFF’S RECOMMENDATION THAT THE EVENT SHOULD
BE HELD AT THE PARADISE COAST SPORTS COMPLEX.
(TANYA WILLIAMS, PUBLIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT
HEAD) (ALL DISTRICTS) - APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: Item 11M is a recommendation to
review the proposed Rock the Red USA event as requested by
Florida's Voice and accept staff's recommendation that the event
should be held at Paradise Coast Sports Complex. As discussed
when we were setting the agenda, the Florida's Voice has found a
new location for this event and will not be utilizing, at this time, a
county park, but contained in this executive summary is a
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dialogue regarding events of certain size, including those with
amplified sound and, in accordance with direction given by the
Board before our summer recess and events following, that we
will attempt to take these types of events and move them to the
sports complex.
Tanya may have some additional comments she wants to
make. But the threshold that we're looking at here is events that
have more than 500 participants and those with amplified sound.
The sports complex is not only situated in a location that it's not
impactful to residential, which some of our other parks are
surrounded by residential neighborhoods, but also is laid out for
proper parking, security, and can house events of this size.
So with that, I'll hand it over to Tanya, if she has any further
comments.
MS. WILLIAMS: Good afternoon, Commissioners. For
the record, Tanya Williams, Public Services department. I have
Olema Edwards, your interim parks director, with me as well.
As the County Manager has so -- she's hiding right behind
me.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Oh, there she is.
MS. WILLIAMS: She's right there, Commissioner.
As the County Manager so stated, we do have a difference,
obviously, in what Sugden Regional Park can accommodate by
way of parking as well as participants in comparison to your
Paradise Coast Sports Complex.
Just for the record, Sugden Regional Park has 300 actual
parking spaces that are available that it precludes any -- the use of
any lawn areas that we may deem for an event. Public restrooms
are adequate for the way the park is designed. Olema can further
explain how Sugden Regional Park is really designed to be used.
It is a passive recreational park, along with your watercraft,
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sailing, and waterskiing.
So in regards to being able to accommodate an event that
could see upwards of 1,500 to 2,000 people, that park is not
designed for that type of event.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Do we need to have that
discussion today, or do we need to have that as a discussion when
we're managing our parks plan for coming up?
MS. PATTERSON: So this is actually a follow-on to
guidance that we got from the Board. We are here today
specifically because there was this application but now,
generally, to be sure that the Board is in favor of this approach,
and if you are, then we will simply apply that on applications
going forward. They'll still follow the process going to the
PARAB and, as requested by this board, these larger events or
those with amplified sound we'll bring to the Board as a
consent-agenda item. But since it was already on the agenda, we
just wanted to take the opportunity to be sure that this is heading
in the direction the Board was looking towards pushing large
events out towards the sports complex as it is able to house them,
and utilizing Sugden and the other regional and community parks
for those smaller community events that don't disrupt the
surrounding neighbors and businesses.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay. Very good.
Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Amy, actually, after I
pushed my button, I think you sort of summed it up. I just want
to make sure that our guidance is clear to the PARAB which is,
you know, the bigger events and -- because I also do hear from
citizens that they like spreading the wealth and, you know, the
message we don't want to get out there is, God, now everything
the county does is going to be at the sports complex, and so we've
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got to really be clear -- make sure that our messaging is clear so
people don't over-summarize and think that's our hidden goal or
something.
Like you said, you're working it into the equation of
locations that we use, but there are things that are really good,
you know, home-cooking community events that are great for
many of the other locations as we've had, you know, even before
we had the sports park. So I think we're all paddling in the same
direction.
But, you know, as Commissioner Saunders always says,
right, words matter. So you release one sentence, and all of a
sudden social media blows up. Oh, everything's at the sport
complex, and then what will follow -- because we've already
heard some of that, too -- is oh, they're pushing it to the sports
complex because now they're going to charge us a higher fee
when we used to have it in the Donna Fiala Park for free, and
now all of a sudden we have to pay this big fee. You know,
those are the things that we just want to get out ahead of, because
we've already had a couple of those. But then we headed it off at
the pass, and you guys have done a great job. But, you know,
that would just be my only comment, you know, we just make
sure how we advertise these things and that we're not doing it for
a financial thing --
MS. PATTERSON: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: -- et cetera.
MS. PATTERSON: We'll make sure that we work on that
messaging.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you. I agree
completely that large noisy -- especially noisy types of events
should be at the Paradise Sports Park. We want to make sure
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we're utilizing that to the greatest extent possible. And also, as
you said, that that eliminates some problems in the neighborhood.
I don't want you to have kind of a hard-and-fast rule. It says
here, the proposed events to be transitioned are those expected to
exceed 500 participants. So you take the new park in
Commissioner McDaniel's district, you take the North Collier
Park, those parks, given certain types of activities, could hold
more than 500 people.
And so I think we would have to kind of rely on staff's
judgment. But I think if you have a situation where you know
it's going to be a tremendous amount of traffic, a lot of people,
noisy, and it's easier to contain it in terms of security and garbage
collection and all of those things, I agree 100 percent. Just that
if somebody comes in and they say that they have 501 people and
they want to be over at the new park in District 5, I'd hate for
staff to say, well, we can't do it unless you eliminate one person.
So that's all. But I agree completely what you're trying to do.
MS. WILLIAMS: We're in agreement with that.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: First of all, I wanted to
thank your staff for what you're doing because this is
very -- you're the face of the government to the people, and it's a
very difficult balancing act, and more and more as we grow,
these events are going to come up, because people want to do
this.
But the reason there are potholes in the baseball fields,
Commissioner LoCastro, is because we haven't charged enough.
We haven't charged enough for our facilities, and that's a big
problem.
So, again, it's a balancing act that, you know, we have to
maintain what we have. It's so critical. And I know you're hard
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at work doing that. So thank you very much.
MS. WILLIAMS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: My global question is is, you
know, the agenda item was for a facility to be used in one, and
we're shifting them to the other. And my question is, do we
want to have this come back as an actual discussion for advice to
our PARAB and for you our staff to be able to make
recommendations to the PARAB, or just do this today?
MS. PATTERSON: I'm going to look over at Jeff, but we're
just looking for direction, because it's still going to follow
through the PARAB and, again, these larger events, we're still
going to bring them to you. So if there were some disagreement,
then we're still having that ability to have that conversation with
you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay. Very good.
Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yeah. I'll just say, to
respond to Commissioner Taylor's comment -- I don't want to get
into a debate on why we have potholes, but we had burned-out
lights that sat burned out for a year in some of our parks, and that
wasn't because we didn't charge enough. That was neglect by
the county not doing a good enough job.
And Commissioner -- and County Manager Patterson would
agree, she's doing a much better job. And I'll commend Dan
Rodriguez as well. I mean, now you have a checklist of things
that we're doing at parks so that we don't have to have citizens to
tell us we have a broken water fountain for 11 months; that we
actually catch those things on our own.
So I'm not a fan of just saying charge more money so we can
buy, you know, more dirt for the baseball fields. It's a mixture
of things, so I don't take exception to what Commissioner Taylor
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said, but I'll just end it on a positive note saying, especially to
Mr. Rodriguez -- and I'm sure he represents a bunch of people
that are doing it differently. But you and I have talked.
I really am excited about the new things you have put into
place, all of you, to make sure that we're being very proactive
to -- you know, in some cases, we filled all those potholes after
the Little League played on a crappy field, right? I mean, we
had these conversations, and then it was like we went out there
and our checklist said, now we're going to recondition the field.
And, you know, the kids could have played on a -- on a beautiful
field, and instead we did it sort of backwards. But I commend
all of you that are catching those things. It's not all about
soaking citizens for more money. Some of it we have the budget
for.
So buy the lights, you know, switch them the minute that
they're burned out, and let's have our unbelievably great
maintenance people catch and not, you know, moms and dads
who are sending us photographs of potholes and burned-out
lights.
So, I mean, I just wanted to add that and end on a positive
note that I know you-all are working much differently in a
proactive measure so that we catch those things. And we're
already seeing notes from citizens and parents who are saying,
wow, you know -- right? I mean, Olema, the notes that we're
trading on that one particular park that sent us a laundry list of 20
things that we could fix for about $75, right, and you did --
MS. EDWARDS: (Nods head.)
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: -- immediately. I mean,
that's my point. So I thank you for that.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner Saunders, do
you want to go again?
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COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Just a quick question.
Yeah, as I was going through this -- I meant to ask you this -- it
says here that the sports complex full-day rental is $15,000 for an
event of this size. What does that -- what does that mean when
you say a rental of the sports complex? Because that's fairly
huge, and -- does that mean that someone can come in, if it's
already not being used, rent the entire park for 15,000?
MS. EDWARDS: Commissioner Saunders, I'm going to let
Adrian Moses from the Paradise Sports Complex come up and
answer that.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: And then I'm curious as
to what would be included in that, what --
MR. MOSES: Good afternoon. Adrian Moses, Sports
Facilities Companies representing Paradise Coast as general
manager.
Essentially, when we're talking about an event of that size,
you can't just say you're renting a specific part of the complex.
You have to take everything. We have to provide all of the
parking, which means now we can't rent out our other fields,
derive ancillary revenues from those fields. That one event has
to cover the potential revenue that we could gain from -- if we
had the facility open for, let's say, a lacrosse tournament that
would take up the same amount of parking but would use more of
the individual aspects of the facility.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: So someone pays
$15,000; they have the whole facility. Now, obviously, we have
security and all of the things that have to be provided. Does that
$15,000 fee cover all of their expenses for trash removal and
security and --
MR. MOSES: It covers all of their expenses from a regular
operating procedure for our facility. So I had this conversation
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with my business development director yesterday; it's that
anything in addition to what we do normally, an event operator
should have to pay for that.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: So what do you do
normally, I guess, is what I'm trying to say get at?
MR. MOSES: So we would typically have, for example, for
trash removal, we have two 8-yard dumpsters and one 8-yard
recycling dumpster. That covers us for traditional regular use.
If we've got an event that's going to derive a whole lot more trash
that's going to require us to organize more trash removal, that
responsibility now moves on to the operator.
So the $15,000 would cover the cost of the 8, the 8, and the
8, but if we need to do more trash pulls or have more dumpsters
on site, that would be their financial responsibility.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: What about security?
MR. MOSES: Security is always the responsibility of
the -- of the event organizer.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: All right. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay. Thank you.
MR. MOSES: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All right. Well, I'm satisfied
that this is okay. Somebody want to make a motion?
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yeah, motion to approve.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Second.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and -- it's been
moved and seconded to approve as presented. Any other
discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN TRECKER: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
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CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved.
MR. WILLIAMS: Thank you.
MS. EDWARDS: Thank you.
Item #11N
AUTHORIZED A BUDGET AMENDMENT AND ACCEPT THE
STATE HOUSING INITIATIVE PARTNERSHIP (SHIP)
DISASTER ASSISTANCE AWARD IN THE AMOUNT OF
$334,700 TO ASSIST ELIGIBLE COLLIER COUNTY
HOUSEHOLDS WHOSE PRIMARY RESIDENCE SUSTAINED
DAMAGE AS A RESULT OF HURRICANE IAN TO PAY THEIR
INSURANCE DEDUCTIBLES AND AUTHORIZE ONE
TEMPORARY FTE (SHIP GRANT FUND 791). (STAFF’S
REQUEST) - APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: Item 11N is one of our add-on items.
This is a recommendation to authorize a budget amendment and
accept the State Housing Initiative Partnership Disaster
Assistance Award in the amount of $334,700 to assist eligible
Collier County households whose primary residence sustained
damage as a result of Hurricane Ian to pay their insurance
deductibles and authorize one temporary full-time employee.
Ms. Kristi Sonntag, your director of --
MS. SONNTAG: Community and Human Services.
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MS. PATTERSON: Thank you. I was going to say human
and community services, and I knew that sounded wrong -- is
here to answer questions or present.
MS. SONNTAG: Would you like me to go through the
presentation?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Briefly, yes.
MS. SONNTAG: Okay. All right. Well, good afternoon.
I am Kristi Sonntag, your Community and Human Services
director.
The item before you today is to approve the SHIP insurance
deductible program. The SHIP disaster program is part of the
State Housing Initiatives Partnership program.
Each year funds are set aside from the SHIP allocation in the
event of a disaster. The funds awarded for this particular
program are part of the five million dollars that are set aside
annually. Collier County, including the City of Naples
allocation, is $334,700. These disaster funds can be used to pay
for your regular homeowner deductible or your flood deductible.
The program eligibility requirements are set by the Florida
Housing Finance Corporation, and the income -- it is an
income-driven program. It's 120 percent of the area median
income or below. A family of four, that would be 113,160
annually. You must be U.S. citizen/legal resident, obviously a
Collier County resident.
In addition, the program requires that we cannot assist any
property that is assessed by the Property Appraiser in excess of
$458,634. That is a SHIP set-aside. They establish that
number.
Any manufactured homes we could assist; however, they
would have to be constructed after July -- or, sorry, June of 1994.
Again, a SHIP rule. And we would also need a copy of the
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insurance adjuster's report, and every family who participates in
the program has to sign a Disaster Assistance Agreement
verifying that they're not having a duplication of benefit.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Just a quick clarification.
Back up one slide. The property value assessment, is that -- is
that for the house -- similar to what we do when we determine the
50 percent, or is that the total land and home?
MS. SONNTAG: It is the -- it's how we do the 50 percent.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So it's just for the house and the
above?
MS. SONNTAG: Yep, the structure. You are correct.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: If your structure is assessed at
less than this, then you can qualify?
MS. SONNTAG: Correct.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay.
MS. SONNTAG: The insurance deductible program has
some rules. As we all know, the flood insurance program has
two deductibles. It has for the property and it has for the
contents. However, in this particular program, we would not
allow to reimburse for the content deductible.
Payments must be made directly to the contractor. So if the
homeowner paid their deductible themselves, we could not
reimburse the homeowner. So we will be required to ensure that
whoever the roofer, contractor, whomever it is, that they're
willing to accept payment from us.
The maximum award is 20,000. This is the figure that's in
your Local Housing Assistance Plan that you approved. Of
course, you can set as a board any amount. Collier County -- or
sorry, Charlotte County, for example, capped theirs at 12,000.
This is in line with your current LHAP, but you as a board can
certainly decide if you want to lower that number. Obviously,
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we can't go above it, but we can certainly lower it if you so
choose to.
It's not a reimbursement program, and it will require an
inspection before payment can be made. We do have a
third-party inspector that we use here at the county, or the county
Building Department. We can accept either of those.
We are requesting for one temporary time-limited staff.
This would be a grant-funded position. This particular position
will help with customer service, processing applications, working
with the contractor, helping to get the payment out the door, and
any other customer-service-related activities; coordinating
inspections, et cetera.
The portal, with your approval today of accepting of these
funds, will open on November 18th at 12:00 noon, and it will
close November 26th at 5:00 p.m. That is a Saturday.
Applicants can make application at CollierFLAssistance.com or
CollierHousing.com. It's the same website that we've used for
all of our housing programs.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Who picked that timeline on
the portal?
MS. SONNTAG: Yes.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Who picked that timeline?
MS. SONNTAG: We did. We figured based on what
happened in Charlotte County, they opened for three days, and
they received far in excess, so we opened it for a week. But if
you want us to leave it open longer, we'd be more than happy to
do so.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Well, it's a small window, and I
think you'll probably have a lot of people coming at you. So, I
mean, I'm -- I don't know. It just seemed like a very small
window.
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MS. SONNTAG: I can extend it, that's fine, if that's -- at
your pleasure, you know.
So the recommendation is to authorize the budget
amendment, accept the funding in the amount of $334,700, and to
authorize a temporary full-time employee.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Just as an aside, it would make
sense that it will close when the money runs out, correct?
MS. SONNTAG: Yes, it would.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And so you have it open for a
week now.
MS. SONNTAG: Correct.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Ten days, whatever that amount
was. I thought it was a week. And so -- and then if it -- if the
applications don't come in, then it would extend until the money
is expired? And we could add --
MS. SONNTAG: Yes, sir. We could certainly do that.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: If we had that provision in
there -- if we're going to close it early, we should extend it if we
don't -- if the money's not expired.
MS. SONNTAG: Okay. I can. I mean, if I receive 2,000
applications at 20,000, I would expect to exceed 334-. But, yes,
to your point, exactly.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And we can let the County
Manager make the executive decision about the extension based
upon what you're sharing. I'd be happy with that.
MS. SONNTAG: Okay. Any other questions?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I'm good. I'll make a motion
for approval.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Second.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and seconded
that we approve as presented. Any other discussion?
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I do. I'm so sorry.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: You didn't hit your light.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I didn't, but, you know, I
was just looking at the bottom page of the qualifications
checklist, and I just need our wonderful Clerk of the Court to
come up and tell me that she's comfortable with this. I need you
to come up here, please. Because we have not only application
documents, we have proof of payment documents for the Clerk's
audit. And I know you've worked together. I just need to put it
on the record.
MS. KINZEL: We do work together. I haven't looked at
the actual details of her proposal on the item by item, but you
work with Finance.
MS. SONNTAG: Yes, we talked to Susan.
MS. KINZEL: And we do the post audit before the
payments are made for any of these, so...
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah. No, I know you do,
but it's just a question that you're comfortable with your standard
that's put here so that down the road --
MS. KINZEL: We have been working together very, very
well. And if we have a discrepancy, I'm sure that we'll work it
out with Kristi.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Great. So this is malleable.
I mean, we've got -- it's not -- because we pass it today doesn't
mean this is it forever. You have --
MS. KINZEL: And let me say this, we do try to work
together, because I agree with you. The one thing in looking at
this, it's very detailed. And sometimes when the public sees this,
they become intimidated. But we can use alternative -- some
alternative proofs, and we discuss that.
So if, for example, they don't have one piece of paper, we
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can try to get there a different way. So even though she's listing
these as the initial criteria, we've always worked together to try to
make it, as long as we can prove what they're trying to tell them
and we agree in our offices, we use that information as a
substitution.
So this isn't if you don't have this dot, you're out. And I
think making that clear to the public is probably preferred so that
they know, even though you are passing this list -- in accounting,
there are documents that can prove the same thing, and you can't
always identify what all of those documents are, but we've
worked very closely and very well together in the last couple of
years, and we get satisfied together.
So we're covering the taxpayers, but we're still trying to work
with each individual, so...
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you. Thank you.
MS. KINZEL: No. Thanks.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay.
MS. SONNTAG: Anything else?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and seconded
that we approve as presented. Any other discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved.
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Thank you, Kristi.
MS. SONNTAG: Thank you.
Item #11O
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ACCEPTED AN
AFTER-THE-FACT DONATION OF SAND AND SAND
TRANSPORTATION/DELIVERY FROM STEWART
MATERIALS AND RAPID TRUCKING RESPECTIVELY,
RECEIVED BY COLLIER COUNTY IN ADVANCE OF
HURRICANE IAN’S LANDFALL IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF
$2,275.50 (ALL DISTRICTS) – APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: Item 11O is formerly 16A6; this is a
recommendation that the Board of County Commissioners accept
an after-the-fact donation of sand and sand transportation and
delivery from Stewart Materials and Rapid Trucking,
respectively, received by Collier County in advance of Hurricane
Ian's landfall in the amount of $2,275.50.
And this was moved to the regular agenda by Commissioner
Saunders' request, and Trinity Scott is here to answer any
questions.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: No questions,
Mr. Chairman, but the reason I asked this to be withdrawn
is -- and this is not a big number, the $2,275, but it was a
donation, and it came at a very important time when the storm
was -- Hurricane Ian was on the way here. And I just thought, if
we're going to thank people in this manner, we should put it on
the regular agenda, because on the consent agenda nobody even
hears about it. And so I just wanted to formally accept [sic] the
Stewart Materials and Rapid Trucking for their very thoughtful
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donation at a time of need of our citizens, and that's all.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Make a motion.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: So I'll make a motion to
approve it.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And I'll second it with
the -- thank you to you, because I have a note on this agenda item
as well that's very similar that says, let's move this to the top and
maybe even explore future contractual relationships so that as
we're going forward, we can -- because that sand got delivered,
donated and delivered and got gone like that. And so it was an
amazing thing. And I had a similar note. So I thank you for
bringing it up, and I'll pass on to Mr. Stewart our genuine thanks,
and the trucking. The trucking is largest -- probably the largest
expense of all that's the transport.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: You know, right?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I do know, all too well.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Can I just add something
as well?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yes.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Trinity, also, too, I
wanted to give a shout-out to -- I know a lot of times you or
Jamie or somebody is standing up here and you represent a lot
more people, but when that sand was donated, the speed at which
you and your team reacted to not only get the word out, advertise
it. Like Commissioner McDaniel said, it disappeared quickly
because of the great job that you-all did to react, get the
sandbags, get the shovels. And it might sound easy, but
sometimes that stuff isn't.
And, you know, we were really under a tight timeline, you
know, obviously, when the storm had changed. So I just echo
not only thanks for the donation, obviously, but then the way that
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the county team -- and it appeared to be led by you, because I
was corresponding with you back and forth. But, you know, I
just want to say thanks to you and to everyone else who reacted
so quickly and maybe had a part -- and I don't know if this
donation just came out of the blue and the company just felt, you
know, charitable or, you know, there was some conversations that
happened. But the overall effect, not only from the donation but,
you know, your efforts and that of the county staff was, you
know, impressive. So thank you for that.
MS. SCOTT: Thank you so much. And if I can, this is the
first time that we've done a sandbag program in Collier County,
and so we learned a lot, and we hope that we don't have to do it
again.
But we have had multiple meetings afterwards about ways
that we can improve the program. So phenomenal success.
Something that our County Manager, when she was in her prior
position, really wanted to roll out. So this gave us the
opportunity to do so. As I said, we were able to learn from it,
and with the generous donation from Stewart Materials and
Rapid Trucking, we were able to get over 100 tons of sand out to
our public, so thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's really important. That's a
wonderful thing, so thank you.
And that was -- the conversation I had with staff yesterday
was, we may be able to take advantage of sand deposits along the
way. With the proper containment -- with the proper
containment area, that material doesn't ever go away. Now, if
you just dump it on the ground, it will be in amongst Mother
Earth in a short period of time. But if you keep it in a proper
containment area, it stays there forever. So we'll have a supply
as we're going along to -- and Stewart Materials does supply us
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with our beach sand.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Were you surprised that
this -- the figure wasn't higher? Because it was a lot of sand. I
mean, this represents the value of the donation, correct?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yes.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: And, I mean, like you
were saying, transiting it back and forth and the workload and
everything, I mean, I was surprised. I expected it to be a bigger
number. So I guess maybe we got it at a discount. And I know
it was a donation. But I guess they priced it at sort of discount
rates. I expected the number to be bigger.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I'm almost certain that that does
not include the sand. It's predominantly the transport.
MS. SCOTT: The number that's in here is the number that
was provided by the organizations, so...
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Company, yeah.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: That's correct.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Okay.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Because that's 10, $12 a ton
sand just on the hill --
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yep.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: -- for the retail side, so...
But it was very nice and very effective for those that were
able to use it, so...
MS. PATTERSON: Item 11P, formerly 16A11, is --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Did we vote on that? You
moved. I seconded it. Did I call for a vote?
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: No.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
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CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved.
Item #11P
APPROVED THE COOPERATIVE PROCUREMENT AND USE
OF THE PINELLAS SUNCOAST TRANSIT AUTHORITY
CONTRACT NO. 21-980369, FLORIDA ELECTRIC TRANSIT
BUSES WITH CHARGING AND ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT,
FOR THE PURCHASE OF 30, 35 AND/OR 40-FOOT ELECTRIC
BUSES FOR THE COLLIER AREA TRANSIT SYSTEM. (ALL
DISTRICTS) - APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: Okay. Item 11P, formerly 16A11, is a
recommendation to approve the Pinellas Suncoast Transit
Authority Contract No. 21-980369, Florida electric transit buses
with charging and associated equipment for the purchase of 30-,
35- and/or 40-foot electric buses for the Collier Area Transit
system.
Ms. Trinity Scott, your Transportation Management Services
department head, is here to answer questions.
MS. SCOTT: Good afternoon. Trinity Scott, department
head, Transportation Management Services. I do have a quick
presentation if you would like to hear it.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: That's -- yes.
MS. SCOTT: So why we are here today is to approve a
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contract for county staff to be able to purchase electric vehicles
from.
This contract is derived from a consortium process from the
Florida Public Transit Association Finance Corporation, which is
a not-for-profit associated with the Florida Public
Transit -- Transportation Association.
They developed a consortium process in coordination with
the Federal Transit Administration that would allow for larger
buying power to open up the contract to all transit agencies
within the State of Florida to be able to purchase from.
Pinellas County became the lead agency. They volunteered
to be the lead agency, and they took the lead on competitively
soliciting the contract providing for the purchase of electric
buses. As part of that taking the lead, what they do is they
coordinate with all of the transit agencies within the State of
Florida to say, what are your needs? What size buses? They're
not just procuring for themselves. They're procuring based on
what we need and what little nuances we may need as far as the
buses.
The contract components include not only the buses, but also
the associated charging stations. And with this, through the
consortium process that was vetted through the Federal Transit
Administration, there is a $500 fee for the use of the contract
that's paid to the Florida Public Transit Association Finance
Corporation, and that is used to support training for transit
agencies in the State of Florida.
So when our drivers or our mechanics -- the State of Florida
will host training opportunities whether it's the latest and greatest
for maintaining a vehicle. We are invited free of charge to be
able to attend those trainings. And so that's what this $500
supports.
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The fee does not go to Pinellas County who, in this instance,
is the lead agency. And this is the same process that's used by
Collier County that Collier Area Transit has used since its
inception, and this is also the same process that's used for our
diesel buses. So nothing new with the electric vehicles.
The Board of County Commissioners approved our grant
submission back in April of 2020 that included the purchase of
two electric vehicles and the associated charging equipment, and
that grant award came back before you also for approval on
February 23rd of 2021.
This will be a pilot project for Collier County, similar to
what we have done in the past for hybrid diesel buses. We put
these buses -- we purchase -- we usually purchase one or two,
and we actually put them into play in our transit facility on our
routes, and we see how they perform. What I can tell you from
the hybrid diesel buses; we had two in our system, that's it. We
never bought anymore, because we didn't see the return on
investment for them.
How our transit system works could be different than how
another transit system works when you start putting these
vehicles into operation. So we will collect data, and we will
develop a cost-benefit of whether or not it's something that we
want to pursue in the future.
So from a maintenance perspective on an electric vehicle, we
fully know that we will save some maintenance funds. You
don't have to do an oil change on them, we don't have fuel, but
we will have associated costs for charging, and so we need to
look at all of those components and the infrastructure that's
necessary.
In addition, the Public Transit and Neighborhood
Enhancement, in coordination with the Collier MPO, is beginning
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the process to determine the feasibility of larger spread
implementation of low and no emission vehicles. This is a
requirement by the Federal Transit Administration to complete
this process, not to go fully no or low emission, but they want us
to look at our infrastructure and see if it's something that's even
feasible for that. So purchasing these vehicles will give us that
data to know if this is going to work within our system.
It takes approximately 12 to 18 months, once we issue a
purchase order for the buses, to receive them. The buses are
funded 100 percent by Federal Transit Administration funds that
can only be used for transit capital. There's no local match
requirement.
Just to let you know a little bit about these buses, the
charging capacity and range is about 300 miles per charge, and it
can fully charge overnight. And we have also budgeted in that
grant that was approved by the Board to also purchase a charging
station.
So what we're asking today is your authorization to be able to
utilize the Pinellas Suncoast Transit Authority contract to
purchase the electric vehicles that were approved in the prior
grant back in 2021.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Just one quick question.
On average, how many miles do we drive a bus a day?
MS. SCOTT: I do not know that off the top of my head, but
I now have Michelle Arnold --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I hope it's less than 300.
MS. SCOTT: Oh, so for a route, yes, it is less than 300,
typically. But I will tell you is we do some routes that are
longer, the Immokalee to Marco Island route; however -- and it
does divert in other areas. So these are things that we want to
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test the vehicle on and see how long the charge will last.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: That was my question.
Now, let's just say this goes forward and you've got a charging
station. Can you use someone else's charging station?
MS. SCOTT: At this time we can't go to the sports complex
and charge on that charging station, but we will have our own
infrastructure to charge at our facility. And if we anticipate
deploying more in the future, we would have to look at charging
stations, depending on how our system operates with it. Based
on -- based on our analysis -- and we did have a vehicle just for a
few days that we were able to test. We fully believe that it can
get back and forth to the transfer station and run the routes
throughout the day. We don't think that we're going to have an
issue with running out of electric.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So you cannot use the
charging station at the Marriott Marco Beach Hotel if it's
prearranged?
MS. SCOTT: So -- no, we can't, because it's no different
than electric -- not every electric vehicle can use every charging
station because of the inputs, the plug.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: The plug's different.
MS. SCOTT: And the amps and there's -- yes.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: The bus isn't a Tesla.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: We're doing a new transfer
station with the TIGER grant program in Immokalee, and we'll
put a plug out there, so if the bus ends up on that end and needs
juice, it can plug in. We're going to probably to do, in
some -- remember on the 47 acres that was at Randall and --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah.
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CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: -- Immokalee, we had talked
about a bus barn/CAT bus transfer station. There will be
something of those facilities in that area, and so we'll do another
one there if, in fact, these things work.
MS. SCOTT: Exactly. And so that will all be identified as
part of this low- and no-vehicle-emission plan that we're doing.
Where do we need additional infrastructure? Is it -- and like I
said, the first step is, is the bus even viable for us? We've gone
through this pilot program before for an alternative fuel vehicle,
and it didn't pan out, quite frankly. So we went back to diesel
buses. So those are all things that we, from a staff perspective,
will be analyzing and looking at.
Okay. Thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Mr. Chairman, do you
need a motion to approve?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yes, sir, I was fixin' to.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I will do that, then. I
move to approve Item 11P.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Second.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and seconded
that we approve the item as presented. Any others additional
discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
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sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved.
Item #11Q
RECEIVED INFORMATION CONCERNING AN AGREEMENT
BETWEEN - UNITED SOCCER LEAGUES, LLC, AND PARA
SFM, LLC, CONCERNING NEGOTIATING - RIGHTS FOR A
POTENTIAL STADIUM USE AGREEMENT AT THE PARADISE
COAST SPORTS COMPLEX. (ALL DISTRICTS) – APPROVED
MS. PATTERSON: Item 11Q is formerly 16F4. This is a
recommendation to receive information concerning an agreement
between United Soccer Leagues, LLC, and PARA SFM, LLC,
concerning negotiating rights for a potential stadium-use
agreement at the Paradise Coast Sports Complex.
Ms. Marissa Baker, sports complex manager, is here to
answer questions.
MS. BAKER: For the record --
MS. PATTERSON: I'm sorry. This item was moved at
Commissioner Taylor's request.
MS. BAKER: Yes. For the record, Marissa Baker, sports
complex manager, and we are here to answer any questions you
may have.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: If I may, Mr. Chair.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: You're the one that -- you're the
reason we're having this discussion, so I'd like to hear what your
thoughts are.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Well, you know, I looked at
it and it was fine, and then I saw that there's a signature required,
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so then I said, um -- about 7:00 last night I said, uh-uh, that's not
fine, because we all received a letter yesterday in our box with an
offer to lease or buy the sports park.
And I think -- I'm not suggesting this is even going to go
forward. I'm not going to be here to even be part of this. But I
think just for business sense, we probably should just postpone
this until we get our hands around this offer.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: What's the term of this
agreement?
MS. BAKER: So the agreement we have here today is a
one-year term where United Soccer Leagues will pay us $75,000
for us not to speak to another professional soccer team. It does
not mandate or obligate us to have a future agreement. It just
says we have the intention of working together on a future
agreement.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay. And the County
Attorney, does the agreement that's here before us have the
cancellation for convenience termination clause like everything
else we do?
MR. KLATZKOW: I'd have to double-check. Give me a
second.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No. I talked with Deputy
Manager Rodriguez about it. The contract is with the sports
park. It doesn't matter who the manager is. So no matter -- so
what it does -- that's the thing that I learned yesterday. I thought
it was the management firm with the United Soccer, but it's not.
It's the sports park with United, and the manager could change; it
doesn't matter.
So it's encumbering something that we may not want to
encumber. I mean, that's going to be a point of discussion.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's a point of discussion, but I
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think in the scope of things, we have a lot of work to do on this
letter of interest that came to us yesterday. We'll talk about that
under commissioner comments. And this particular item,
relatively speaking, I think's incidental to -- I mean, it's a portion
of a negotiated -- to-be-negotiated agreement, if we ever get
there.
MS. BAKER: Correct.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So I would be hesitant -- if staff
believes that this is a good agreement, good for the county and
good for the park, then I would --
MR. KLATZKOW: This isn't our agreement, right?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No.
MR. KLATZKOW: This is an agreement between --
MS. BAKER: PARA SFM and United Soccer Leagues.
MR. KLATZKOW: So this is just for your information.
There's no decision to be made here.
MS. BAKER: It's just informing the Board that the
agreement --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay. So why are we at --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: But there's a signature
required. That's what got my -- there's a signature.
MR. KLATZKOW: This agreement is not between the
county and -- it's not with the county.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So it's not with the county or
the sports park; it's with the management --
MR. KLATZKOW: It's with the Paradise Sports Park
people, yes, but it's not with us.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So is it with the
management firm, or is it with the entity?
MR. KLATZKOW: The management firm, I believe. It
has nothing to do with us. I'm not even sure why we're having
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this discussion, all right. I always tell the staff, don't give the
Board something they can't make a decision on. This is
something you can't make a decision on. It's informational
purposes.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: So this is just informational for
us that Sports Facilities Company has been offered this payment
not to negotiate with anybody else in terms of having a
professional team?
MS. BAKER: Correct.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Is that -- okay.
MS. BAKER: The money still goes into the county's
operating fund --
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Correct.
MS. BAKER: -- as a revenue but, yes, it's between PARA
SFM and United Soccer Leagues.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: See, it again --
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: All right. It sounds like free
money to me.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: -- the Paradise FM, isn't that
us? Isn't that the county?
MS. BAKER: No, that is the management company.
MR. KLATZKOW: No, it's not us.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay.
MR. KLATZKOW: Your management company may have
100 different agreements we don't know about. I have no idea.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: This just happens to be one
they're telling us about.
MR. KLATZKOW: This is one that staff is telling you
about, yes.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: All right. I've got a couple of
lights up here before you go. We don't have anything to vote on;
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you're just letting us know about this.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. So at the end of this
executive -- on this agreement, there's a signature required by
someone in the county saying that they agree and accept this
arrangement.
MR. KLATZKOW: Okay. I didn't draft the agreement,
and I'm telling you that we can sign it or not sign it. It doesn't
make any difference.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: That's what the executive
summary said, but that's not what this said, this legal document.
MR. KLATZKOW: I don't know what to tell you. We
don't -- it's not with us.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Mr. Chairman?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I understand we're
not -- this is not an agreement with the county. First question:
Does this have to be done today or can we do it in December, at
our meeting in December? Now, I realize that we're not doing
anything, but I'm asking that question, is it critical to have this
signed by your organization today or tomorrow as opposed to
giving us an opportunity to evaluate this?
Because the County Attorney isn't very familiar with the
agreement. It's on our agenda. It is raising a question as to
whether this encumbers our facility in some way. I believe we
probably have a termination for convenience clause in our
agreement with the operating company for that. So if that -- if
this created a problem, I guess we could terminate that
agreement, and that would automatically, I guess, terminate the
other agreement. But maybe we just need to have the County
Attorney tell us --
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MR. KLATZKOW: I'm familiar with the agreement, now
that I refresh my recollection. It has nothing to do with us.
And, yes, we can terminate --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Okay.
MR. KLATZKOW: -- if we want.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: So we don't really need
to discuss this any further?
MR. KLATZKOW: No. If the issue is -- if the Board
wants to consider selling the sports park, all right -- and I know
we're months and months away from that discussion -- we can
terminate the agreement we have with the management company.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Well, let's get to point --
(Simultaneous crosstalk.)
MR. KLATZKOW: But that's down the road.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: This is nothing to do with --
(Simultaneous crosstalk.)
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: We're all over the map
now.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: So I make a motion we
move on to the next item.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I'm all over that. Can I just
erase all these comments?
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: No. I have a question
about the soccer -- about what we were initially talking about.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: This agreement?
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yes, yes, not the sale of
the sports park, which is something totally separate. So the
soccer agreement -- is it my turn?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yes, sir, it is your turn.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: So this soccer agreement,
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you're making us aware of it. Are you prepared to accept it? Is
your recommendation that you should -- that you're accepting it?
MS. BAKER: Yes, our recommendation is to accept it.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Okay. Because even
though I know when we were talking about this, the conversation
is, it's not a vote for us; that you-all have the authority, and so
this is more of a courtesy. I'll back up a little bit.
When we were picking different management companies, I
remember in the conversation it was, yeah, you have these
authorities and -- but we would be part of the decision process
that if we all thought -- let's just say we all thought -- we thought
this was a horrible idea, that you would listen to that; that you
weren't coming here saying, so we've already accepted it and we
want to -- and what I'm hearing from you is you're not saying
that.
And so sometimes, even though we have a contract and you
could do whatever you wanted, I thought in the fine print, the
handshake -- and maybe that's not legal, so the attorney will just
say, you can shake all the hands you want, but you-all can
do -- but I thought in the spirit of, sort of, professionalism that as
these offers come in to you, you will come here and say, we're
recommending approval. We have the authority to not even tell
you and say yes, but we want you to know what's going on at the
sports park.
And having said that, then I just throw this out here as sort of
playing devil's advocate. Is there any negative to sort of locking
in with this one? You know, I like the money amount and all
that, but then there's also a stipulation that says it locks us out
from any others. The company we've hired, you-all have the
expertise, you know, to know the difference. I want to hear that
you think, oh, beyond a shadow of a doubt, we're not missing out
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on 30 other companies that, you know, possibly could come to
us. This isn't sort of locking us in. Yeah, we get the 75 grand,
is what it is, 75,000?
MS. BAKER: Correct.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: But also the fine print
basically says, okay, now we can't negotiate with any other, you
know, soccer firms or what have you. You know, educate us
here. Does -- is that not a concern?
MS. BAKER: I will let Adrian speak to the specifics of the
contract.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yeah.
MR. MOSES: Thank you for the question.
Adrian Moses, general manager of the Paradise Coast Sports
Complex.
We feel we did our due diligence. There are two major
professional leagues in soccer. We offered an opportunity for
both to provide bids to us. We made a decision which we felt
was in the best interest of Collier County and, honestly, the
organization that gave us the best bid. The other bid was not
detailed, incorporated a lot of aspects of the complex that we
weren't prepared to share. And this was the best bid for us.
And as kind of explained in the executive summary, there's no
commitment to it. It's just giving them the opportunity to be able
to go to a potential ownership group to see if there's interest out
there, and if there isn't, there isn't.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Okay. That's exactly
what I wanted to hear. Thank you, sir.
MR. MOSES: You're welcome.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner Solis.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay. So can we -- we
should -- I was just going to say, if I was Adrian, I can't imagine
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what my blood pressure would be, because we have now talked
about canceling the agreement. I mean, this is, I think, a great
opportunity, and for them to bring it to the Board to keep us
informed of one of the great things they're doing that's generating
revenue, essentially found money, thanks for bringing it to us. I
mean, I think it's a great idea. This will -- you know, this is,
again, in the realm of for whatever it's worth because it's my last
meeting -- I mean, selling the sports park sounds like insanity to
me. But that's all I'm going to say.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay. Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So if my colleagues would
just look on the last page of this document, and what it says --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: What's the item number again?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: It's 16F4. It says, accepted
and agreed, Collier County, and it requires a signature that we
accept it. When I read it, it didn't seem like it. It's information.
Why are we -- why do we have to sign something that gives us
information?
So that's why it's before us, because when I talked to Deputy
County Manager Rodriguez yesterday, he said oh, no, no, no.
He said, this is information but it's between -- it's between United
Soccer League and the county, and that's why there's the
signature there. So I'm totally confused and --
MR. KLATZKOW: I didn't draft this agreement, all right,
because this is not my client. Okay. If we sign it or if we don't
sign it makes no difference.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay.
MR. KLATZKOW: This contract would still be viable. I
don't know what else to say.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I mean, that signature
block might be there in error, correct?
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: It might be the form.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Mr. Chair, if I could, for the record.
Part of reason we brought this was for visibility to the Board
because in the past we've had questions about sponsorships and
things like that from the Clerk.
But as part of the original contract, from what I understand,
and Marissa and the team can correct me, is that, yes, they bring
those proposals, but somebody in the County Manager's Office
has to sign off, and that's the way it was set up going back a year
ago, so that we have visibility, and we can see what they're
signing over to their partners. And that's why you see our
signature there.
But it only goes to the County Manager level. But out of
professional courtesy to you, the Board, visibility to the public,
we brought it as an agenda item.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Done. Thank you.
Commissioner Saunders, have you got any --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Yeah, just real quickly.
I certainly had no intention of indicating any desire to terminate
any agreements. I was only pointing out that if something goes
wrong, we're still in control; that's all. I think our management
company's doing a great job, and I'm very pleased with that. I'm
okay with this. But just for the Board to know, if we do go to
selling this at some point which, quite frankly, will take us longer
than a year anyway, most likely --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Number one.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: -- we're still in control.
We're not giving up any control by --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Right.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: -- saying, okay, that's
fine, enter into the agreement.
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So I would make a motion, if there's one necessary, to just
move on to the next agenda item.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I think we --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: We already did that once.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No, we approved it, so I
think -- I pulled this, right, so now we just have to say we
approve this as written. Because I pulled it, we haven't -- it took
it away from the consent agenda.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved that we
approve it as written.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I'll second that.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been moved and seconded
that we approve it as written. All in favor?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Aye.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Opposed, same sign, same
sound.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So moved.
MS. BAKER: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Thank you.
Stay around for the rest of the conversation.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: We were getting ready to
prove to you that no good deed goes unpunished here.
Item #15A
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PUBLIC COMMENTS ON GENERAL TOPICS NOT ON THE
CURRENT OR FUTURE AGENDA BY INDIVIDUALS NOT
ALREADY HEARD DURING PREVIOUS PUBLIC COMMENTS
IN THIS MEETING
MS. PATTERSON: Commissioners, that brings to us
Item 15, staff and Commission general communications. 15A is
public comments on general topics not on the current or future
agenda by individuals not already heard during previous public
comments in this meeting.
MR. MILLER: We have no one registered at this time.
Item #15B
STAFF AND COMMISSION GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS
MS. PATTERSON: Okay. Item 15B is staff and
Commission general communications, so we can start over here.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I'll just start with you.
MS. PATTERSON: Thank you so much.
First, thank you to two more of our constitutional officers.
You all received correspondence on their return of unused funds,
both Clerk of Courts and the Sheriff. So thank you very much
for that. You-all received copies of these. If you did not, I can
provide you copies of those. I just wanted to extend a thank you
to both the Clerk and the Sheriff for their ongoing partnership,
and we will continue to work with them on their priorities and
needs in the upcoming -- or in the current fiscal year.
Second is a thank you both to Commissioner Solis and
Commissioner Taylor from all of the staff in the County
Manager's Office. It's been a pleasure working with you over
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the years in all different capacities. Particularly, I'll have to say
it, Trinity's cringing already in the back, but thank you for your
support relative to advancing our stormwater program. It's
been -- it's really wonderful working with you.
I'm sure Dan probably has some comments as well.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: I also, too, want to give accolades to
Commissioner Solis and Taylor for your commitment to public
service here.
Some of the legacy projects that you helped champion truly
have made our community the wonderful place that it is
and -- but, also, each one of you have taken time to come and
visit with staff out in the field, and you've singled out staff on
many occasions of their great work, and that really goes a long
way to helping us to promote and create an environment that's
professional, and we thank you for that.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: You know, Commissioner
Solis, he was -- he had baptism by fire in his district because of
the Naples Park renovations of the water pipes and all the roads
being torn up that are -- it's still happening.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: It's still going on.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So he definitely was out in
the field.
MS. PATTERSON: As you were you in the Country Club
of Naples. We're still battling our way through that one as well.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah, you know what, the
water didn't get as far as this time.
MS. PATTERSON: It did not.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: It's working. Hello,
everyone. Stormwater works. When you update it and you
fund it, it works.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Infrastructure.
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MS. PATTERSON: Infrastructure, yeah, absolutely.
Last, I think I'm allowed to say for this Friday, to all of our
members that have served, Happy Veterans Day to our staff
members that served, to Commissioner LoCastro and others.
Thank you so much for your service. Enjoy -- enjoy the Friday.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Well said. Well said.
MS. PATTERSON: That's all we have.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: County Attorney?
MR. KLATZKOW: Nothing, sir. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Well, let's start on my far right.
Commissioner Solis.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Well, you know, in kind of
reflecting on what Commissioner Taylor just said, wow. I mean,
the last six years, if you think about it --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's been something.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: -- Irma --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Pandemic.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: -- two years of biblical red tide,
two years of pandemic, and now going out with another
hurricane, it has been challenging. It's been -- but very, very
rewarding. It's been an honor to serve with all of you.
And I think one of the things that's made it both special and,
I think, productive -- because in all of the kind of the legacy
things that I think we've started is the civility that we all
committed to every year, and I hope that that continues. I think
it makes for better decisions, better -- just a better process, and I
think that's one of the things that -- at least from my standpoint,
has made the six years such a wonderful thing to have
experienced.
So thanks to the staff. You know, you all are what, I think,
makes the county great, your commitment to hurricanes, through
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hurricanes, through red tides, through, you know, the pandemic,
you're really the backbone of what Collier County is and what
makes it great. So thank you for all of your commitment to the
community.
And I will be around. I'm not leaving the state, as there's a
rumor out there, apparently, that I'm leaving the state. I'm not
leaving the state. I will be around. It's been great.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner LoCastro said
something about North Korea or something.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yes, I'm not moving to North
Korea.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Heard it on Facebook.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: It's on Facebook.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: So it really -- it really has been
a pleasure, Mr. Chair, Commissioner Saunders, everybody. It's
really been a pleasure working with you all, and see you down
the road.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Look forward to it. Ride those
conveyors.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I'm going to go to my far left.
Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Oh, me, okay. So first of
all, this is just aside from, you know, the formal goodbye and it's
great to work with you, but it is I'll miss you guys. And I'll
miss -- I'll miss the -- just the intellectual demands of this job that
really put you out front when you're -- when you're up here and
you have to make an argument.
I've learned so much. That is one of the great things about
this job. I have learned so much and learned from my
colleagues. I've always said, you always want attorneys on your
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board, you always do, because they'll talk this language, and
you'll look at them like, what are you speaking? But you kind of
get into the -- to the understanding that what we do is based on
law, and it's very important to have that as a balance so -- and to
staff. Wonderful support from staff.
Anything that I take away from working as a commissioner
is how supportive staff has been through these eight years that
I've been here. And what staff brings to -- you know, you've
picked strong leaders in this county, and they bring a lot to the
table, and you work well together. So compliments on that.
And along that note, I just -- it's an unsung division we don't
talk about very much. But on our agenda here under Public
Utilities under 16C1, there were -- emergency hazard mitigation
grant program that was mined and delivered, and we have 53
portable generators brought [sic], and that is money that -- those
grant folks are aggressive, they stay on it, and they bring it to us.
And where would we be in this hurricane without that kind of
backup? It's wonderful.
So thank you for this privilege of serving this community
and of being up here. And, yeah, I'm not going to North Korea
either. I'm going to hang around here. And I look forward with
great anticipation and enthusiasm on the future of this county.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Thank you, Commissioner
Taylor.
And speaking of intellectual challenging, Commissioner
Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Yeah, I've been
intellectually challenged.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I didn't say that.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: No, but that's what you
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meant.
First of all, I echo all the comments that have been made,
especially those by Commissioner LoCastro over the weeks and
months concerning our staff. I'm going to get into the
commissioners in a minute, but I just didn't want it to go unsaid
about how wonderful this job is as a commissioner mainly
because of how wonderful a job our Manager and Deputy
Manager and all the department heads back there and all the line
staff that are out in the field on a day-by-day basis. If it wasn't
for you guys, this would be a very, very unpleasant place to be
sitting. So I want to thank all of our staff for that.
And in terms of our commissioners, I really want to thank
Commissioner Taylor and Commissioner Solis. It's been a
pleasure working with you, for six years with Commissioner
Taylor, with -- the last six years with Commissioner Solis. I will
miss both of you. I will miss the conversation. The intellectual
conversation. And the decision making. I think that we, as a
board, have made very difficult decisions over the last six years.
Commissioner Solis, you pointed out some of the challenges.
I think this commission and this county met all of those
challenges, I think, probably better than any other county in the
state when you look at issues like Irma and Ian and the pandemic
and red tide, all of those things.
And I think that the Board, under your leadership and your
leadership, Commissioner Taylor and Commissioner Solis, has
really made some wonderful decisions for this community, and I
think we can all be proud of going forward. So thank you and
best wishes for your continued involvement and other activities.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Well, I don't want to be a
downer on the lovefest, I'll have some of that to say, but I do have
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two pieces of business that --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So you are going to be a
downer?
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yes. I asked the County
Manager that -- to have two folks from the staff come here
because I have some questions on two things. So Jacob LaRow,
if you could come forward, I have a question for you about
affordable housing, and then Jaime Cook is going to give us all
an update on the rock crushing lot, so we can go on the record.
And we've seen some of the emails.
But, Jacob, just real quick, and then I have some closing
comments, but I think this is -- these are two important things.
So we voted on the 60-day rental notice ordinance half a
dozen times, and it was a very volatile issue; it passed 3-2,
whatever, okay. And I'm a big supporter of whether you vote for
something or not, in the end it's one decision, one voice, and we
want it to be successful. You know, that's how democracy
works.
But what I want to know from you is, so everybody cheered
that it got passed. What have we done since the day we voted on
it and it passed, and, you know, what has -- how have we done
anything? What has it accomplished? How have we gotten the
word out there to have it have the success that those who
supported it strongly hoped it would have? And I realize it
wasn't going to be an overnight thing, but I just wanted an update
on has anything happened? Have we done anything?
MR. LaROW: Thank you for the question, Commissioner
LoCastro. Jacob LaRow, your director of Economic
Development and Housing, for the record.
To your question, Commissioner, no, I've -- me, personally,
my division has not taken any concrete explicit steps. And, in
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fact, I believe the ordinance took effect October 28th of last
month at its adoption.
I know Elizabeth Radi, who spoke earlier today during
public comment, I provided that ordinance to her, because she
had a question on that. And so I'll -- based on your question and
anticipation future action, I will work with Kristi Sonntag with
the Community and Human Service Department to make sure
that that notice and that information is available.
I do know -- I believe I received an email this morning that
the MUNI code had been updated incorporating that ordinance,
so that will be accessible through the Internet through those
searches. But to answer your question, nothing specifically, but
we'll --
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yeah. And I only say
this because whether I was for or against it, now that it's passed,
we have to do something aggressive to get the word out, because
where we open ourselves up for legal problems is if a landlord
didn't get the word, you know -- and I realize ignorance isn't a
defense, but they might have a little bit of a defense if they say,
oh, I'm sorry. I missed the one website where it was hung. I
didn't realize, you know.
So, I mean, I don't know what the steps are, but the folks that
were screaming that if they didn't have it, everybody would be
sleeping in their cars, I think they're looking for us to have done
something.
So I don't know what the other counties did that got it out
there, and some of them got it out there with sort of mixed
responses. But, you know, if it's going to have the success it is
supposed to have by those who pushed hard for it, we have to
have done something.
And I realize, like you said, it's still very new, but, I mean,
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I'd take this as a task or a direction. And then please keep us
posted, because this was a hot topic, and there were people that,
you know, were certain that if we passed it, it was going to be an
amazing thing. So, you know, I look for -- I'd like for continued
updates on that.
MR. LaROW: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: And then, you know,
Jaime, I know that -- you know, on the rock crushing lot, give us
the short version. But I know you've done a lot. And I also
really appreciate the folks from Zoning and our permitting folks
who have been watching that lot daily, and we have 200 sets of
citizen eyes that are also watching it and sending us videos. Tell
us the short version of what's going on out there and the progress
that they've made.
MS. COOK: Jaime Cook, your director of Development
Review at Growth Management.
So for the last two weeks they have been doing the
densifying activities. They've been separating the scrap metal,
the rebar, the wood, anything -- construction and demolition
debris that can't be crushed from the rocks that have been on site.
That's continued to be ongoing.
They assembled the crusher last Tuesday, so it was officially
assembled. And since last Tuesday, they have crushed
approximately 3,600 cubic yards of rock on the site. They've put
in about 212 man-hours with the work that they've done so far.
Commissioner, I know you did ask in an email yesterday
about an estimate of the amount of rock on site, and that's one
thing that's been very, very difficult to determine from the get-go
of this. And I did reach out to Earth Tech, the contractor for this
site, but they haven't been able to estimate that amount yet.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I guess what we were
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saying in the other meeting is -- and we're trying to extrapolate,
okay, if they crushed 3,600 cubic yards and, you know, they had
a roughly X number -- you know, you try to do the algorithm and
say, are they on -- are they on some sort of timeline? Is that a
big number? Is 3,600 cubic yards a lot, you know?
And if the answer was, well, they only have 40,000 cubic
yards, we think, wow, they've -- they're already into it 10 percent.
But if we hear that there's 600,000 cubic yards, then we sit here
and do the math and go, man, we're going to be sitting here in this
meeting in April, and it's going to be a real battle with citizens
and whatnot.
So, anyway, as you continue to get those, I mean -- and I
didn't expect that somebody would know the figure, but
hopefully they can guesstimate it a little bit in the next few weeks
as they kind of make progress and get their arms around it, and
then just continue to keep us, you know, posted as you have been,
so I appreciate it.
MS. COOK: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: And then -- and just so
everybody knows, too, from my understanding, the water they've
been using properly.
Do we know if they put up the silt fence a little bit better?
Did they pull the weeds, you know, things like that? Those were
some of the little aesthetic things that we did hear a lot of
complaints about. Do we know, are they -- is some of that stuff
in order? I didn't go by the lot this week, so I didn't get a visual
myself, but I don't -- I don't know if they made those
improvements.
MS. COOK: I believe that they have. I've had
three -- basically, three different inspectors going by three
different times a day to check on the progress, making sure that
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they're following all of our rules, and we have not received any
complaints or had any causes for concern at this point.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Okay. Thank you,
ma'am.
MS. COOK: You're welcome.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Can I follow up just real quick?
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Sure.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Because this is what I do.
So it's running about 17 tons an hour for the man-hours
attributable. Now, is that an aggregate of man-hours? I want to
know the crushing hours, the hours that the machine actually
operated. And there is an hour meter on the machine, I promise.
MS. COOK: That I can find out for you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yes, you can. And number
two, I want to know the size -- the length of the property east and
west and what the diameter of the property is, the entire -- the
entire property boundary, and then you estimate the height of
that, and that will give you an idea as to the volume of material
that's in there that, in fact, needs to be crushed. Then you can
apply -- and it's an estimate --
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: -- because it varies from place
to place. But then you can apply that to the hourly rate with
which they're crushing.
The 212 man-hours attributable right now may have been
setup and mob and all of the things -- mobility -- that -- for
bringing in the crusher and getting it set up and going.
So find out what the hours of operation are in relationship to
the tonnage that's crushed, and then you can extrapolate the
volume that's on the -- estimate the volume that's on the property
and apply it to that, and then we can make decisions with regard
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to hours of operation and what they're, in fact, doing, and that
will give you a far closer estimate.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: And that was the reason I
asked that. I didn't think the county staff would know, but this
company would know. They know how to do the math and
figure depth and height and width and all of that and hours and to
give us a guestimate. And then those numbers become a lot
tighter and more accurate the further we get, you know, into this,
and we can also see adjustments.
So let's demand those algorithms, you know, out of them,
because -- what is it, Eco Tech?
MS. COOK: Earth Tech.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Earth Tech, I'm sorry.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: He's a really good operator.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yeah, and they are, yeah,
so they should know. You know, let them know that at this
meeting we were, you know, asking for those numbers because it
matters to us to see if we think they're on point, on track. And
also, too, I want to know that they're doing the math. They're
not just sort of doing the best they can, and then they're sitting in
here in April, you know, saying -- anyway. Thank you.
MS. COOK: Understood.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: My closing comments
here on that, those were the two the things, so I'll look for the
updates from you, Jacob, as well.
Amy, I really want to thank you for -- at all of these meetings
since you've been the County Manager, it's been very obvious
that in the read-aheads, the hyperlinks in the agenda, there's much
more detail in there. I think the reason why we all don't have a
lot more questions is, you know, the PowerPoint briefings are in
there.
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And, you know, I just remember from two years ago, my
first couple meetings, there weren't as many, sometimes, or as
many valuable things to click on. So I think it's obvious you're
meeting with the staff, preparing us much more, and whether we
look at it or not, I think the staff providing it to you and making
sure that it's in the agenda is making us all, you know, have a
much more valuable experience and get a lot more detail. So I
just wanted to say thank you for that. It's very noticeable. It's
very noticeable.
Last two things I'll just say, it is appropriate to say Happy
Veterans Day. It's never appropriate to say Happy Memorial
Day. And to this veteran, it's never appropriate to sell mattresses
for a cheaper price on either holiday. So I take great offense to
that, you know.
But if you do see a veteran, and I know we have a lot on the
staff, Veterans Day is a time to honor the service of anyone who
has worn the uniform. Memorial Day isn't. So you never say
Happy Memorial Day. But Happy Veterans Day is something
that everybody appreciates.
And to my colleagues, you know, Commissioner Taylor and
Commissioner Solis, I would just say I didn't have the pleasure to
serve with you as long as the others, but I would say, it's
really -- it's not about if you run or not and it's not about if you
win or not, it's about serving, and you both have served. And
there's a lot of folks out there that point a lot of fingers to
government, whether it's at the county level, state, or national, but
they don't step forward to serve. They just want to critique.
And so I really applaud and salute anybody who decides to
serve, and you both have. And so I thank you for your service.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And last but not least, it will be
me, and --
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COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Oh, boy.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yeah, well, you know --
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Motion to adjourn.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: We've got to do the -- we've got
to do the gorilla in the room first, and let's go ahead and do that.
Commissioner Taylor was kind enough to pass out this letter
that we all got yesterday. We have received a letter of interest
from a purchaser for the sports park and, typically, when
someone makes an unsolicited offer for a piece of property that
the government owns, we at least do some exploration to make a
determination as to whether there's validity in the transaction.
And so my proposition or suggestion is is that we do pursue
this at least from the beginning to start the process. We went
through a similar circumstance in Immokalee when we approved
the sale of a CRA piece of property in Immokalee from the
Catholic Charities in an unsolicited offer, and there is a -- we
have a process for this, and irrespective of whether you feel it's a
good idea or bad idea, we can't really ascertain whether it's a
good idea or a bad idea until we move to Level 2 or 3.
And so my suggestion is is that we move on with this in our
normal processes and make a decision from a business
perspective.
Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I'm not -- I mean, I think
that's a fair thing to do. I don't know what this board is going to
decide to do, but I do think, sir, that you are uniquely positioned
to lead that from the commission only because, you know, your
background is real estate, and it's your district.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Yes. Well, it's mine and Burt's
now, but I'll share it with Commissioner Saunders. But I -- and
I'd be happy to lead it, at least get it to the next step.
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I mean, this is all -- all this is is a happy letter that says, hey,
we're interested in a piece of property that you own, so -- and I'm
not -- I'm not being frivolent [sic] about that. I'm actually just
saying this is a nice letter from somebody that says they're
interested in buying it, and I don't think it's prudent for us to just
say no without at least taking it to the next level and seeing if
there's any viability to it.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I think what I would
suggest is we've had this discussion, staff go take a look at it, do
research on the entity, have some meetings with them, see what
they're thinking, get it started, and then at some point I think then
we would need to -- may need to appoint Commissioner
McDaniel to lead some negotiations. But I think prior to that,
the staff just go explore who they are and what they're thinking.
MS. PATTERSON: Sure.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: That's fine, too.
MR. KLATZKOW: And the statute requires a fee. So
work with my office, because we're not doing this work without
generating some sort of revenue before we do it.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: What?
MR. KLATZKOW: The statute for an unsolicited proposal,
what you're supposed to -- there's a fee involved for having staff
do the due diligence to see whether or not this is something they
want to do.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: We don't need a fee. I'll just
do it to get it to the next level, and then we'll go. I don't
remember having to charge a fee for an unsolicited offer.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Statute?
MR. KLATZKOW: There's a big difference between a
piece of land that we're going to sell to a church and something
like this. If you're going to sell the sports park, it's --
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COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: All we're looking to do
right now is have staff communicate with the potential buyer --
MR. KLATZKOW: I agree.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: -- to see what they're
thinking. If there's a statutory issue -- I'd like to -- get us a copy
of the statute so at least we know what we're talking about. But
we're not talking about staff doing a whole lot of research or
anything right now. Just go talk to the folks, see what they're
thinking about.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I actually -- before we had this
discussion, I actually even -- when Amy shared this with me
yesterday, I was just like, have the guys call me, because I can
get through a lot over a phone call --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: -- just in -- to ascertain whether
there's any value in even bringing it forward to the Board. And
the Board would ultimately make the decision, please. But I
could be the one, because -- that can do that preliminary stuff,
Commissioner Saunders, if you're okay with that.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Again, I think the best
thing is for County Manager Patterson to assign somebody from
her staff to talk to these folks and see what they're thinking about.
To have you call right now I think is premature. I think we
just -- just see what they're even thinking.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Right.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: That's my view, because
I think we're elevating this to a discussion where we're not at that
point. We just really need to see what --
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: And that was the -- and if there
is a statute that requires a fee for staff involvement, then I'll be
happy to do it, because I'm free. I'm a phone call away with
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regard --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Free?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Well, inexpensive.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I'm teasing.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: So I don't have to have a fee to
get it to a point where we could make a legible decision and then
pass it off to staff with the -- because then there would be an
actual letter of intent and deposits and things.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Okay. I think now I
may have to disagree with you. I don't really want the Chairman
of the Commission contacting these folks right now to see what
they're talking about. Let's get some information about who they
are and what they're proposing or have some general
conversations. But when you get involved in that, that really
raises it to a level that I don't think we're ready to do that yet.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Okay.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I mean, that's just my
personal view. You know, if the Commission said,
Commissioner Saunders, we'd like for you to talk to these folks, I
would say, well, wait a minute, a little bit of research has to be
done as to what we're talking about, I think.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: This is -- I mean, everybody
realizes this is the company that bought FBU?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Correct.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yeah, okay.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I agree. I think let the
staff do it first and bring something back to us.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I'm totally fine with that, too.
I didn't realize there was a fee associated with it, so we'll worry
about that fee one day.
MS. PATTERSON: If I may, we can do that primary work,
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have a conversation, do a little bit of search.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Background. Make sure
there's enough wherewithal.
MS. PATTERSON: We also have to deal with some of the
financial strings that are attached to this property. But at the
point that they're ready to -- if they get to a point where they and
we are interested in a letter of intent or even if they are and we
aren't, may be the time, then, we address those statutory issues
that Jeff's -- so we'll just look at this as simply they sent us this
letter, and we'll do a little fact finding, and we'll report back to
you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Fair enough.
Yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Are you done?
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: No.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Oh, I forgot, I have one
more question.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Well, just go on ahead.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: You want me to? Okay.
So I understand our Governor has said -- in fact, I got a
postcard to the effect -- that if I have damage from Hurricane Ian
in my home, the property taxes might be deferred. And I'm
wondering if Deputy County Manager Finn knows anything
about that.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: I don't think the Governor can
do that, can he?
MR. FINN: Mr. Chairman, Commissioner, I'm happy to
step up here and tell you that I really have no information on that.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay.
MR. FINN: Certainly, if that becomes a reality, we will
report to the Board any implications of that relative to our
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finances and certainly, if it benefits the taxpayers, we'd provide
that information as well.
There is some -- I believe there is potentially a deferral of the
discount period. I believe that that, if not a done deal, is close to
a done deal. But that in and of itself is primarily a cash flow
issue, and it does provide the taxpayer with a little more time to
pay their bill and do so with the full discount, is the way I
understood.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: That's the deferral they're
talking about?
MR. FINN: I believe that's the case. And I'm speaking
nominally [sic] out of school at the moment. I'm not 100 percent
certain of that, but the Tax Collector and I have talked about this,
and I talked to some of the Clerk's people. But I'm going to
check on that for you, and I will send you an email to see what
the status of that is.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you very much.
MR. FINN: You're welcome.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: Last, but not least, thank you.
It's been a pleasure serving with you for six years, and you as
well.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: As Commissioner Taylor said,
it's an interesting experience just learning the process of decision
making by committee. It's a different process than my other
lives that I have, and it's been enjoyable, and the lessons that have
been learned and the different perspectives that have been
brought forward based upon your thoughts and your knowledge
and how you would have managed things is -- has been
enlightening to me, and I just want to say thank you to you both.
And, as Commissioner LoCastro said, it's not about the
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election or not. It's about the service, and I truly believe that's
why we're all here.
So from me to you, thank you, and I wish you well.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Thanks.
CHAIRMAN McDANIEL: For the greater good, we are adjourned.
*****
****Commissioner McDaniel moved, seconded by Commissioner
LoCastro and carried that the following items under the Consent and
Summary Agendas be approved and/or adopted****
Item #16A1
FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF THE POTABLE WATER AND
SEWER UTILITY FACILITIES AND ACCEPT THE
CONVEYANCE OF A PORTION OF THE POTABLE WATER
AND SEWER UTILITY FACILITIES FOR THE ENCOMPASS
HEALTH REHABILITATION HOSPITAL OF NAPLES
(PL20220003017) - FINAL INSPECTION FOUND THESE
FACILITIES TO BE SATISFACTORY AND ACCEPTABLE ON
JULY 18, 2022
Item #16A2
FOR RECORDING THE AMENDED FINAL PLAT OF CAYMAS
PHASE ONE (APPLICATION NUMBER PL20210003290),
APPROVAL OF THE STANDARD FORM CONSTRUCTION
AND MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, AND APPROVAL OF
THE PERFORMANCE SECURITY IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF
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$8,490,381.90 - W/STIPULATIONS
Item #16A3
FOR RECORDING THE MINOR FINAL PLAT AVALON PARK
PHASE 4A, APPLICATION NUMBER PL20220004667 -
LOCATED IN SECTIONS 32 AND 33, TOWNSHIP 47 SOUTH,
RANGE 29 EAST
Item #16A4
COMMERCIAL EXCAVATION PERMIT PL20210003121 -
WILLOW RUN MINE - BAKER PARCEL, TO EXPAND THE
EXISTING WILLOW RUN COMMERCIAL EXCAVATION TO
INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY 10 ACRES, AND ACCEPT THE
EXCAVATION PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT AND THE
EXCAVATION PERFORMANCE BOND IN THE AMOUNT OF
$134,911.20
Item #16A5
AWARD INVITATION TO BID (ITB) NO. 22-8004,
“LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE FOR VANDERBILT BEACH
MSTU” TO GROUND ZERO LANDSCAPING SERVICES INC.,
IN THE ESTIMATED ANNUAL AMOUNT OF $55,350.50, TO BE
FUNDED BY VANDERBILT BEACH BEAUTIFICATION
MUNICIPAL SERVICE TAXING UNIT (MSTU) FUND 143,
AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE ATTACHED
AGREEMENT, AND APPROVE ALL NECESSARY BUDGET
AMENDMENTS
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Item #16A6
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ACCEPT AN AFTER-
THE-FACT DONATION OF SAND AND SAND
TRANSPORTATION/DELIVERY FROM STEWART
MATERIALS AND RAPID TRUCKING RESPECTIVELY,
RECEIVED BY COLLIER COUNTY IN ADVANCE OF
HURRICANE IAN’S LANDFALL IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF
$2,275.50
Item #16A7
RESOLUTION 2022-177: TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO
CONSIDER VACATING A PORTION OF SANDY LANE. THE
SUBJECT RIGHT-OF-WAY IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY
ONE-HALF MILE EAST OF SANTA BARBARA BOULEVARD
AND ONE MILE NORTH OF RATTLESNAKE HAMMOCK
ROAD IN SECTION 9, TOWNSHIP 50 SOUTH, RANGE 26
EAST, COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA (VAC-PL20210000560)
Item 16A8
A SECOND TRANSPORTATION COMMITMENT EXTENSION
REQUEST FOR THE ROCKEDGE RESIDENTIAL PLANNED
UNIT DEVELOPMENT (RPUD) TO PROVIDE MORE TIME TO
FULFILL THE TRANSIT BUS STOP IMPROVEMENT
COMMITMENT
Item #16A9
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THE TRANSIT ASSET MANAGEMENT (TAM) PLAN FOR
COLLIER AREA TRANSIT (CAT)
Item #16A10
RESOLUTION 2022-178: A RESOLUTION AND EXECUTE
THE FY23-24 PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION GRANT
AGREEMENT (PTGA) WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION (FDOT) IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,312,820
PROVIDING FOR STATE FUNDING FOR ELIGIBLE COLLIER
COUNTY FIXED-ROUTE TRANSIT ADMINISTRATIVE,
MANAGEMENT, AND OPERATIONAL EXPENSES IN THE
AMOUNT OF $1,156,410, APPROVE A LOCAL MATCH IN THE
AMOUNT OF $1,156,410, AND AUTHORIZE THE NECESSARY
BUDGET AMENDMENTS
Item #16A11
THE COOPERATIVE PROCUREMENT AND USE OF THE
PINELLAS SUNCOAST TRANSIT AUTHORITY CONTRACT
NO. 21-980369, FLORIDA ELECTRIC TRANSIT BUSES WITH
CHARGING AND ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT, FOR THE
PURCHASE OF 30, 35 AND/OR 40-FOOT ELECTRIC BUSES
FOR THE COLLIER AREA TRANSIT SYSTEM
Item #16C1
THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN A FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAZARD MITIGATION
GRANT PROGRAM (CONTRACT #H0419) CONTRACT
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MODIFICATION NUMBER THREE FOR FIFTY-THREE (53)
PORTABLE GENERATORS, ADDING ONE YEAR TO THE
CONTRACT
Item #16C2
EXECUTE DOCUMENTS NECESSARY FOR THE
CONVEYANCE OF A UTILITY EASEMENT FOR POTABLE
WATER AND WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE ON
COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY TO SERVICE THE FUTURE
COLLIER COUNTY RESOURCE RECOVERY BUSINESS AND
GOVERNMENT OPERATION BUSINESS PARK (GOBP), TO
THE COLLIER COUNTY WATER-SEWER DISTRICT, AT A
COST NOT TO EXCEED $200
Item #16C3
AN AGREEMENT FOR SALE AND PURCHASE WITH
ADELAIDA HOFMANN AS TRUSTEE OF THE ADELAIDA
HOFMANN REVOCABLE TRUST, FOR A 1.59-ACRE PARCEL
UNDER THE CONSERVATION COLLIER LAND ACQUISITION
PROGRAM, AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED $36,700
Item #16C4
AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE ORDER NO. 1 FOR TIME
EXTENSION UNDER CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT NO. 22-
7950 WITH QUALITY ENTERPRISES USA, INC., FOR THE
PELICAN BAY BOULEVARD SEWER REPLACEMENT
(PROJECT NO. 70240.1)
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Item #16C5
ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE ORDER NO. 3 AND APPROVE
AN ANTICIPATED FINAL COMPLETION DATE OF
NOVEMBER 22, 2022, UNDER CONTRACT NO. 21-7823
PERTAINING TO THE 108TH & 109TH AVENUES PUBLIC
UTILITIES RENEWAL PROJECT WITH DOUGLAS N. HIGGINS
Item #16C6
ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE ORDER NO. 3 FOR A TIME
EXTENSION TO CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT NO. 21-7899
WITH HASKINS, INC., ON THE HAMILTON AVENUE
IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, DUE TO DELAYS
ATTRIBUTABLE TO HURRICANE IAN
Item #16C7
A SITE USE LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE OF
FLORIDA, DEPARTMENT OF MANAGEMENT SERVICES TO
CONTINUE SERVICE FOR THE STATEWIDE LAW
ENFORCEMENT RADIO SYSTEM KNOWN AS SLERS
Item #16C8
ACCEPTED A PROJECT UPDATE ON THE COLLIER COUNTY
SPORTS COMPLEX BEING BUILT UNDER AGREEMENT NO.
17-7198, WITH MANHATTAN CONSTRUCTION (FLORIDA),
INC. (PROJECT #50156)
Item #16C9
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CHANGE ORDER NO. 11 TO COLLIER COUNTY SPORTS
COMPLEX PHASE 2.1 AND 2.2A ON AGREEMENT NO. 17-7198
WITH MANHATTAN CONSTRUCTION (FLORIDA), INC., FOR
USE OF THE OWNER’S CONTINGENCY. (PROJECT #50156)
Item #16C10
CHANGE ORDER NO. 12 TO COLLIER COUNTY SPORT
COMPLEX PHASE 2.1 AND 2.2A AGREEMENT NO. 17-7198
WITH MANHATTAN CONSTRUCTION (FLORIDA), INC., IN
THE AMOUNT OF $506,395.57, TO REDIRECT PREVIOUSLY
BOARD APPROVED FUNDS FOR A TAX-FREE DIRECT
MATERIAL PURCHASE (DMP) OF STONE BECAUSE THE
STONE MATERIAL IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE FROM THE
DMP SUPPLIER. (PROJECT #50156) (DISTRICT 3, DISTRICT 5)
Item #16C11
AWARD REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL (RFP) NO. 22-7951,
“CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK (CMAR) MULTI-
PROJECT EXECUTION”(BUILDOUT OF TWO COURTROOMS,
JURY ROOM, FIRE ALARM AND SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, AND
ELEVATOR UPGRADE) TO CHRIS-TEL COMPANY OF
SOUTHWEST FLORIDA, INC., D/B/A CHRIS-TEL
CONSTRUCTION, AND TO APPROVE THE ATTACHED
AGREEMENT PERTAINING TO A COLLIER COUNTY
COURTHOUSE RENOVATION PROJECT WITH AN INITIAL
CONTRACT AMOUNT FOR PRE-CONSTRUCTION PHASE
SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $71,614.00, AND
ESTABLISHING A CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT FEE OF
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5.5% FOR THE YET TO BE DETERMINED GUARANTEED
MAXIMUM PRICE PROPOSAL FOR CONSTRUCTION
SERVICES
Item #16D1 – (This Item continued from the September 27, 2022,
and October 25, 2022, BCC Meetings.)
TERMINATE FOR CONVENIENCE OF REVENUE
GENERATING AGREEMENTS 20-7707R AND 21-7836, WITH
SSG RECREATION INC., AS THE CONCESSION SERVICE
PROVIDER AT TIGERTAIL BEACH AND BAREFOOT BEACH
Item #16D2
A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO RECOGNIZE CARRY
FORWARD INTEREST EARNED, IN THE AMOUNT OF $500.72,
FOR THE PERIOD OF APRIL 2022 THRU JUNE 2022
ON ADVANCED LIBRARY FUNDING RECEIVED FROM THE
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE, AND SURPLUS
AUCTION PROCEEDS, TO SUPPORT LIBRARY SERVICES
FOR THE USE OF COLLIER COUNTY RESIDENTS (PUBLIC
SERVICE MATCH FUND 710)
Item #16D3
AN “AFTER-THE-FACT” CONTRACT AMENDMENT AND
ATTESTATION STATEMENT BETWEEN THE AREA AGENCY
ON AGING FOR SOUTHWEST FLORIDA, INC., AND COLLIER
COUNTY SERVICES FOR SENIORS TO EXTEND THE
CORONAVIRUS CONSOLIDATED APPROPRIATION ACT
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PROGRAM GRANT PERIOD THROUGH JUNE 30, 2023
(HUMAN SERVICES GRANT FUND 707)
Item #16D4
AN “AFTER-THE-FACT” CONTRACT AMENDMENT AND
ATTESTATION STATEMENT BETWEEN THE AREA
AGENCY ON AGING FOR SOUTHWEST FLORIDA, INC.,
AND COLLIER COUNTY SERVICES FOR SENIORS TO
EXTEND THE EMERGENCY HOME ENERGY ASSISTANCE
PROGRAM-AMERICAN RECOVERY PLAN GRANT PERIOD
THROUGH MARCH 31, 2023. (HUMAN SERVICES GRANT
FUND 707)
Item #16D5
AN “AFTER-THE-FACT” THIRD AMENDMENT AND
ATTESTATION STATEMENT WITH THE AREA AGENCY ON
AGING FOR SOUTHWEST FLORIDA, INC. FOR THE OLDER
AMERICAN ACT GRANT PROGRAM TO INCREASE THE
CONTRACT AMOUNT BY $ 940,104.70 AND SUPPORTING
DOCUMENTATION WITH REVISION TO THE BUDGET
SUMMARY (ATTACHMENT IX) AND THE SUPPORTING
BUDGET AMENDMENTS. (HUMAN SERVICES GRANT FUND
707)
Item #16D6
THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO
THE HOME INVESTMENT PARTNERSHIPS PROGRAM
SUBRECIPIENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN HABITAT FOR
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HUMANITY OF COLLIER COUNTY, INC., AND COLLIER
COUNTY TO EXTEND THE PERIOD OF PERFORMANCE AND
PROVIDE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES. (HOUSING GRANT
FUND 705)
Item #16D7
THE CHAIRPERSON TO SIGN: (1) THE THIRD
AMENDMENT TO THE SUBAWARD AGREEMENT BETWEEN
COLLIER COUNTY AND THE INSTITUTE FOR
INTERGOVERNMENTAL RESEARCH FOR THE BUILDING
BRIDGES BETWEEN JAILS AND COMMUNITY-BASED
TREATMENT FOR OPIOID USE DISORDER
DEMONSTRATION PROJECT, (2) THE CORRESPONDING
FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE SUBRECIPIENT AGREEMENT
WITH THE COLLIER COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE, (3) A
BUDGET AMENDMENT TO RECOGNIZE ADDITIONAL
GRANT FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $26,691. (HUMAN
SERVICE GRANT FUND 707)
Item #16D8
AGREEMENT #22-043-NS “AGREEMENT FOR ANIMAL
LICENSING SERVICES WITH PETDATA, INC., AND TO
APPROVE EXPENDITURES UNDER THE AGREEMENT AND
SINGLE-SOURCE WAIVER FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE (5)
YEARS
Item #16E1
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RATIFY PROPERTY, CASUALTY, WORKERS’
COMPENSATION AND SUBROGATION CLAIM FILES
SETTLED AND/OR CLOSED BY THE RISK MANAGEMENT
DIVISION DIRECTOR PURSUANT TO RESOLUTION 2004-15
FOR THE FOURTH QUARTER OF FY 22
Item #16E2
THE SALE AND DISPOSAL OF SURPLUS ASSETS PER
RESOLUTION 2013-095 VIA PUBLIC AUCTION ON
DECEMBER 10, 2022; APPROVE THE ADDITION OF SURPLUS
ITEMS RECEIVED SUBSEQUENT TO THE APPROVAL OF
THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR SALE IN THE AUCTION; AND
AUTHORIZE THE PROCUREMENT DIRECTOR, AS DESIGNEE
FOR COUNTY MANAGER, TO SIGN FOR THE TRANSFER OF
VEHICLE TITLES
Item #16E3
ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT PREPARED BY THE
PROCUREMENT SERVICES DIVISION FOR CONTRACTUAL
MODIFICATIONS REQUIRING BOARD APPROVAL
Item #16E4
AWARD INVITATION TO BID (“ITB”) NO. 22-7985 “FILTERS
FOR FLEET VEHICLES & EQUIP
Item #16E5
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RESOLUTION 2022-179: A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING
THE REMOVAL OF 7,807 AMBULANCE SERVICE ACCOUNTS
AND THEIR RESPECTIVE UNCOLLECTIBLE ACCOUNTS
RECEIVABLE BALANCES WHICH TOTAL $4,876,008.70,
FROM THE ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE OF COLLIER COUNTY
FUND 490 (EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES) FINDING
DILIGENT EFFORTS TO COLLECT HAVE BEEN EXHAUSTED
AND PROVED UNSUCCESSFUL
Item #16F1
THE CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT
TAX GRANT AGREEMENTS FOR THE SECOND GRANT
ROUND FOR FY 2022-2023 NON-COUNTY OWNED/
OPERATED MUSEUMS (FORMERLY CATEGORY C-2) AND
MAKE A FINDING THAT THESE EXPENDITURES PROMOTE
TOURISM
Item #16F2
THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT NO. 17-7127, “3-
1-1 / CUSTOMER RELATIONSHIP MANAGEMENT (CRM)
INITIATIVE” WITH QSCEND TECHNOLOGIES, INC., AND
APPROVE EXPENDITURES MADE UNDER THE ATTACHED
THIRD AMENDMENT OF THE AGREEMENT
Item #16F3
RESOLUTION 2022-180: A RESOLUTION APPROVING
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AMENDMENTS (APPROPRIATING GRANTS, DONATIONS,
CONTRIBUTIONS, OR INSURANCE PROCEEDS) TO THE
FY22-23 ADOPTED BUDGET
Item #16F4
RECEIVE INFORMATION CONCERNING AN AGREEMENT
BETWEEN UNITED SOCCER LEAGUES, LLC, AND PARA
SFM, LLC, CONCERNING NEGOTIATING RIGHTS FOR A
POTENTIAL STADIUM USE AGREEMENT AT THE
PARADISE COAST SPORTS COMPLEX
Item #16F5
A FY 2022 BUDGET AMENDMENT TO TRANSFER
RESERVES, IN THE AMOUNT OF $40,000, WITHIN
COMBINED 911 SYSTEM FUND (611) FOR FY 2022
REIMBURSEMENTS TO THE SHERIFF
Item #16G1
THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, ACTING AS
THE AIRPORT AUTHORITY, AUTHORIZE ITS CHAIRMAN TO
EXECUTE THE ATTACHED COLLIER COUNTY AIRPORT
AUTHORITY STANDARD FORM LEASE AGREEMENT WITH
SALAZAR MACHINE AND STEEL, INC., FOR NON-
AERONAUTICAL LAND USE AT THE IMMOKALEE
REGIONAL AIRPORT
Item #16J1
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THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ENDORSE THE
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND UNITED
STATES DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY COMBINED
EQUITABLE SHARING AGREEMENT AND CERTIFICATION
THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 2023
Item #16J2
TO RECORD IN THE MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, THE CHECK NUMBER (OR
OTHER PAYMENT METHOD), AMOUNT, PAYEE, AND
PURPOSE FOR WHICH THE REFERENCED
DISBURSEMENTS WERE DRAWN FOR THE PERIODS
BETWEEN OCTOBER 13, 2022, AND OCTOBER 26, 2022,
PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTE 136.06
Item #16J3
THE BOARD APPROVE AND DETERMINE VALID PUBLIC
PURPOSE FOR INVOICES PAYABLE AND PURCHASING
CARD TRANSACTIONS AS OF NOVEMBER 2, 2022
Item #16J4
A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO FUND THE FY2023 PAY AND
CLASSIFICATION PLAN FOR THE CLERK OF THE CIRCUIT
COURT AND COMPTROLLER OFFICE IN CONCERT WITH
THE COUNTY’S PRIOR PLAN APPROVALS EFFECTIVE
OCTOBER 1, 2022, IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,339,300
Item #16K1
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RESOLUTION 2022-181: APPOINT FOUR MEMBERS TO THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE -
APPOINTING AROL BUNTZMAN, JENNIFER FARON, TODD
LYON, AND REAPPOINTING STEPHEN HRUBY
Item #16K2
RESOLUTION 2022-182: APPOINT ONE MEMBER TO THE
LELY GOLF ESTATES BEAUTIFICATION ADVISORY
COMMITTEE - APPOINTING ANITA ASHTON WITH TERM
EXPIRING ON OCTOBER 1, 2026
Item #16K3
A STATUS UPDATE FOR THE LITIGATION STYLED COLLIER
COUNTY V. MAMMOTH CONSTRUCTORS, LLC, (CASE NO.
2021-CA-000132) NOW PENDING IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF
THE TWENTIETH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR COLLIER
COUNTY, FLORIDA, AND AUTHORIZE THE NECESSARY
BUDGET AMENDMENT
Item #16K4
RESOLUTION 2022-183: APPOINT FOUR MEMBERS TO THE
BLACK AFFAIRS ADVISORY BOARD - APPOINTING JOHN
NEWTON, JERIS LAMPKIN SMITH AND CYNTHIA GRIFFIN
CAVE AND REAPPOINTING MICHAEL PATTERSON
Item #16K5
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A STIPULATED FINAL JUDGMENT IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT
OF $265,000 PLUS $68,230 IN STATUTORY ATTORNEY AND
EXPERTS’ FEES AND COSTS, FOR THE TAKING OF PARCEL
165FEE REQUIRED FOR THE VANDERBILT BEACH ROAD
EXTENSION PROJECT NO. 60168
Item #16K6
RESOLUTION 2022-184: TO APPOINT THREE MEMBERS TO
THE HISTORIC/ARCHAEOLOGICAL PRESERVATION BOARD
- APPOINTING CANDACE JOHNSON AND ZACHARY BURCH
AND REAPPOINTING AUSTIN BELL
Item #17A - (This item continued from the October 25, 2022, BCC
Meeting.)
ORDINANCE 2022-44: AN ORDINANCE OF THE BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF COLLIER COUNTY,
FLORIDA, AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 04-41, AS
AMENDED, THE COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT
CODE, WHICH INCLUDES THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND
REGULATIONS FOR THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF
COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT CHANGES THE
DISTANCE OF THE MAILED WRITTEN PUBLIC NOTICE
REQUIREMENT FOR VARIANCE APPLICATIONS FROM 1
MILE TO 1,000 FEET FOR ALL ESTATES (E) ZONED
PROPERTIES LOCATED IN THE RURAL AND URBAN
GOLDEN GATE ESTATES SUB-ELEMENTS OF THE
GOLDEN GATE AREA MASTER PLAN, BY PROVIDING
FOR: SECTION ONE, RECITALS; SECTION TWO, FINDINGS
OF FACT; SECTION THREE, ADOPTION OF AMENDMENTS
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TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, MORE
SPECIFICALLY AMENDING THE FOLLOWING: CHAPTER
TEN APPLICATION, REVIEW, AND DECISION-MAKING
PROCEDURES, INCLUDING SECTION 10.03.05 – REQUIRED
METHODS OF PROVIDING PUBLIC NOTICE; SECTION
FOUR, CONFLICT AND SEVERABILITY; SECTION FIVE,
INCLUSION IN THE COLLIER COUNTY LAND
DEVELOPMENT CODE; AND SECTION SIX, EFFECTIVE
DATE. [PL20220004350]
Item #17B - (This Item is being continued to the December 13, 2022,
BCC Meeting.)
RESOLUTION 2022-185: PETITION VAC-PL20210001872, TO
DISCLAIM, RENOUNCE AND VACATE THE COUNTY AND
THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN A PORTION OF THE 24-FOOT
DRAINAGE EASEMENT LOCATED ALONG THE BORDER
BETWEEN LOTS 14 & 15, BLOCK “B” OF PALM RIVER
ESTATES, UNIT NO. 7, AS RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK 12,
PAGE 28 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF COLLIER COUNTY,
FLORIDA, LOCATED IN SECTION 23, TOWNSHIP 48 SOUTH,
RANGE 25 EAST, COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA AND TO
ACCEPT PETITIONER’S GRANT OF A DRAINAGE EASEMENT
TO REPLACE THE VACATED DRAINAGE EASEMENT
Item #17C - (This Item continued to the December 13, 2022, BCC
Meeting.)
APPROVED AN ORDINANCE OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS OF COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA,
AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 04-41, AS AMENDED,
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THE COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE,
WHICH INCLUDES THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND
REGULATIONS FOR THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF
COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA, THAT REVISES THE
PROCEDURES AND APPROVAL PROCESS FOR
COMPARABLE USE DETERMINATIONS WITHIN ZONING
DISTRICTS AND REQUIRES CONDITIONAL USE OR MINOR
CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL IN ADDITION TO A
COMPARABLE USE DETERMINATION IN ALL ZONING
DISTRICTS EXCEPT FOR PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
ZONING DISTRICTS THAT EXPRESSLY PROVIDE FOR
COMPARABLE USE DETERMINATIONS, BY PROVIDING
FOR: SECTION ONE, RECITALS; SECTION TWO, FINDINGS
OF FACT; SECTION THREE, ADOPTION OF AMENDMENTS
TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, MORE SPECIFICALLY
AMENDING THE FOLLOWING: CHAPTER TWO ZONING
DISTRICTS AND USES, INCLUDING SECTION 2.03.00
ZONING DISTRICTS, PERMITTED USES, ACCESSORY USES,
AND CONDITIONAL USES, SECTION 2.03.03 COMMERCIAL
ZONING DISTRICTS, SECTION 2.03.04 INDUSTRIAL ZONING
DISTRICTS, SECTION 2.03.05 CIVIC AND INSTITUTIONAL
ZONING DISTRICTS, SECTION 2.03.07 OVERLAY ZONING
DISTRICTS, AND SECTION 2.03.09 OPEN SPACE ZONING
DISTRICTS, AND CHAPTER TEN APPLICATION, REVIEW,
AND DECISION-MAKING PROCEDURES, INCLUDING
SECTION 10.02.06 REQUIREMENTS FOR PERMITS, AND
SECTION 10.03.06 PUBLIC NOTICE AND REQUIRED
HEARINGS FOR LAND USE PETITIONS; SECTION FOUR,
CONFLICT AND SEVERABILITY; SECTION FIVE, INCLUSION
IN THE COLLIER COUNTY LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE;
November 8, 2022
Page 186
AND SECTION SIX, EFFECTIVE DATE. [PL20220000207]
(FIRST OF TWO HEARINGS)
November 8, 2022
Page 187
There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 2:33 p.m.
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS/EX
OFFICIO GOVERNING BOARD(S) OF
SPECIAL DISTRICTS UNDER ITS CONTROL
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WILLIAM L. McDANIEL, JR., CHAIRMAN
ATTEST
CRYSTAL K. KINZEL, CLERK
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These minutes approved by the Board on ____________, as
presented ______________ or as corrected _____________.
TRANSCRIPT PREPARED ON BEHALF OF FORT MYERS
COURT REPORTING BY TERRI L. LEWIS, REGISTERED
PROFESSIONAL COURT REPORTER, FPR-C, AND
NOTARY PUBLIC.