DSAC Agenda 12/07/2022
Development Services Advisory
Committee
Meeting
Wednesday, December 7, 2022
3:00 pm
2800 N. Horseshoe Dr.
Naples, FL 34104
Growth Management Department
Conference Room 609/610
If you have any questions or wish to meet with
staff, please contact
Trish Mill at 252-8214
For more information, please contact Trish Mill at (239) 252-8214 or Patricia.Mill@colliercountyfl.gov
Development Services Advisory Committee
Agenda
Wednesday, December 7, 2022
3:00 pm
2800 N. Horseshoe Dr., Naples, FL 34104
Growth Management Building, Conference Rooms 609/610
NOTICE:
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Reporter can record all statements being made.
1. Call to order - Chairman
2. Approval of Agenda
3. Approval of Minutes:
a. DSAC meeting – October 5, 2022
b. DSAC meeting – November 2, 2022
4. Public Speakers
5. Staff Announcements/Updates
a. Development Review Division – [Jaime Cook]
b. Code Enforcement Division – [Mike Ossorio]
c. Public Utilities Department – [Matt McLean]
d. Growth Management Dept. Transportation Engineering Division – [Jay Ahmad or designee]
e. Collier County Fire Review – [Shar Beddow or Shawn Hanson, Assistant Chief, Fire Marshal]
f. North Collier Fire Review – [Chief Sean Lintz or Deputy Director Daniel Zunzunegui]
g. Operations & Regulatory Mgmt. Division – [Ken Kovensky]
h. Zoning Division – [Mike Bosi]
For more information, please contact Trish Mill at (239) 252-8214 or Patricia.Mill@colliercountyfl.gov
6. New Business
a. Updated memo regarding the lifespan of SDPIs and ICPs [Development Review]
7. Old Business
8. Committee Member Comments
9. Adjourn
FUTURE MEETING DATES:
January 4, 2023 – 3:00 pm
February 1, 2023 – 3:00 pm
March 1, 2023 – 3:00 pm
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MINUTES OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
Naples, Florida, October 5, 2022
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, the Collier County Development Services Advisory
Committee, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on
this date at 3 P.M. in REGULAR SESSION at the Collier County Growth Management
Department Building, Conference Room #609/610, 2800 Horseshoe Drive North, Naples,
Florida, with the following members present:
Chairman: William J. Varian
Vice Chairman: Blair Foley (via Zoom)
David Dunnavant
James E. Boughton
Clay Brooker
Chris Mitchell
Robert Mulhere (excused)
Mario Valle
Norman Gentry (via Zoom)
Marco Espinar
Laura Spurgeon-DeJohn (via Zoom)
Jeremy Sterk (via Zoom)
Jeff Curl
John English (via Zoom)
Mark McLean
ALSO PRESENT: Jamie French, Deputy Department Head, GMCD
Rich Long, Director, Building Department
Chris Mason, Interim Director, Community Planning and Resiliency, GMD
Fred Clum, Chief Building Official, GMD
Timothy Crotts, Contractor Licensing Compliance Supervisor
Jay Ahmad, Director, Transportation Engineering Division
Matt McLean, Director, Public Utilities Division
Jaime Cook, Director, Development Review
Linda Simmons, Plans Reviewer, N. Collier Fire & Rescue
Patricia Mill, Senior Operations Analyst/Staff Liaison
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1. Call to Order - Chairman
Chairman Varian called the meeting to order at 3:04 p.m. A quorum consisting of eight members
was convened in the conference room (five more participated via Zoom); another member arrived
three minutes later in the conference room.
Prior to calling the meeting to order, Chairman Varian told those in attendance that Jamie French
is interested in hearing feedback from committee members and the audience who can help us
figure out where we’re at, what we’re up against and any pitfalls we’re seeing.
2. Approval of Agenda
Mr. Valle moved to approve the agenda. It was seconded by Mr. Curl. The motion was carried
unanimously, 8-0.
3. Damage Assessment
GMD Deputy Department Head Jamie French reported that:
• All other community or public meetings were canceled this week, but this one is important and will
help us manage expectations going forward by reporting on what we’ve seen in the field and to brag
about our county teams.
• When the all-clear is given, the Building Division’s responsibility is for a preliminary damage
assessment. We saw flooding from a great deal of surge on Plantation Island, Everglades City, Ten
Thousand Islands, Chokoloskee, all the way up the coastline and all of Collier County. There was
significant flooding, about 5 feet of water, into Everglades City and into the islands.
• He looked at the DaRuMa restaurant property (241 Center St. N.) earlier today and estimated water
was at 9 feet, so there were differences in flooding. There wasn’t a lot of wind behind the water that
went into southern areas of Collier County.
• When you get up to Clam Pass, there was more flooding and water was moving faster, like a
scouring.
[Mr. Boughton joined the meeting at 3:07 p.m.]
• We saw electrical boxes ripped off, automobiles washed from underneath vehicles. A man who lost
a brand-new McLaren hypercar made national news after losing about $3 million in cars under one
garage. A McLaren was in the mangroves, next to his Rolls Royce Phantom and his Tesla, which
was upside down.
• Building Division staff completed all damage assessments on the preliminary levels for the hardest
hit areas where homes were flooded. That was completed Saturday. There was a very quick turn-
around Saturday morning by 10 crews. We didn’t need everybody else and did everything we could
to rest staff over the weekend.
• He watched Rock Creek come over its banks throughout the area behind the bowling alley, where
there were boats floating.
• Davis Boulevard was impassable due to 3-5 feet of water.
• Flamingo Estates looked like rapids coming over Airport Road and about 3-4 feet of water flooded
their homes.
• As of October 1st, Fred Clum is our full-time Building Official.
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• Chris Mason, our Floodplain Coordinator, is now our interim Director of Community Planning and
Resiliency. Resiliency and floodplain go together, so that’s a good start, a good test. He’s interim
because we’ll be interviewing Chris and he’ll be interviewing us over the next six months.
• Potential storm surge warnings: Low-lying areas are identified on flood maps. Most of the time
with these storms, either something shifts and we don’t get hit by the storm or the wind. But we
were hit on a high tide. It was perfect, as far as storm conditions go, and we got storm surge.
• It appears FEMA, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and (D.A. Davidson Analyst) Michael Baker
got it wrong. That’s because the hurricane didn’t hit certain areas that should have flooded and they
just got lucky. Conditions just weren’t right. This hurricane was big and different. There were no
buildings collapsing or roofs ripped off, but there are some roof leaks and damage to some homes.
• At Barefoot Beach, where cars were flooded, water was moving at about 30-40 miles an hour, on
top of the winds and high tide, so the Florida Building Code worked.
• Thanks to all of you for doing the right thing because other than some single-family homes that are
dated and built on grade, we didn’t have a lot of damage, but there will be a lot of reconstruction.
• The county has damage maps.
• The cities of Marco Island and Naples did a great job and were always in communication. It’s a
great government partnership. He was on the phone with Craig Molé when the storm was passing
over his house.
• Accounting management staff was great and told him what he needed to do and he reported to Ed
Finn, who was amazing.
• While assessing damage in a county F-350, he got three flat tires and continued driving.
• The county uses Crisis Track (Damage Assessment Software), which enabled us to give the federal
and state governments real-time data as it was being collected in the field. That helped escalate
getting Collier County declared (a State of Emergency) so we get emergency relief and programs.
Mr. French used an overhead projector to show areas that were damaged:
• Red areas were most impacted, a concentration of data.
• The cities of Marco Island and Naples also use Crisis Track and the county was able to take all of
their valuations to compare against the known improvements on the property. We’re at about $1.6
billion for residential countywide.
• We thought this was a bad time to be in construction, but you’re all going to be needed.
• The county’s primary focus will be getting residents returned to homes and getting businesses open.
• There are renters living among property owners who may not want to follow the Building Code.
We’ve run into several.
• We were out cleaning up a non-county owned community playground (Harmony Shores Trailer
Park) that had a lot of raw sewage on the ground because staff cares about this community and the
kids. That’s the county culture.
Mr. French asked Rich Long to talk about emergency permits (see 4 below) and Chris Mason to speak
about substantial improvement and substantial damage and how the federal government calculates that.
[see Item 4 below for emergency permitting information.]
Mr. French reported that:
• The county left CityView up, not knowing we were going to have all the flooding we endured.
We took CityView down for new inspections because we had to manage expectations.
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• The county sent staff home early on Tuesday. During Tuesday’s BCC meeting, we thought
Hurricane Ian was headed toward Venice and we didn’t expect anything. As a result, we took
CityView down, but we were open for business at the GMD building on Thursday, even though
they were putting out announcements.
• We’ve done everything we could to support the local economy and anyone who was impacted.
More than 20% of our staff comes from Lee County and many didn’t get a chance to see their
own homes after the hurricane because they were working, so we gave staff a rest.
• Staff isn’t trained on the human side of this and are seeing displaced children, damaged
belongings. As a result, there’s PTSD on this job that they aren’t trained to handle.
• This showed county staff how state and federal governments do and don’t work together.
• Building inspectors, code enforcement and other staff are handing out water, tarps and MREs.
• We’ve asked for a stay on code-enforcement violations that are disaster-related.
• There are newer homes by the bowling alley at Brookside that are elevated and look pristine,
but if you drive down the street, you’ll see they’re in peril and are hurting.
• He begged FPL and LCEC to restore power to dry out homes.
• The county needed road sweepers to get behind demolition vehicles picking up debris, so they
could clean up drywall nails and sharp metal. He got three flat tires driving through those
communities.
• Gov. DeSantis and Sen. Scott are working with Lowe’s and other suppliers to put together
contractors to help needy families. The Community Foundation of Collier County is involved
and Commissioner Taylor spearheaded this effort. He’s advised her to stay out of homes the
county can’t rebuild; some are repetitive-loss structures.
• We lost the Cape Romano Dome Homes, which were repetitive-loss structures. They’re finally
off the county list and the county doesn’t have to report them as a repetitive loss.
• The county will probably have about 300-400 repetitive-loss structures show up again. That will
completely change the landscape on how the county does business.
• We’re looking at immediate need and must ensure county staff is rested and can care for their
own personal properties.
• Lee County reached out to today to ask if Collier could send building inspectors. We have not
used (Nova Engineering and Environmental LLC Executive Vice President) Jason Hill on this
because it wasn’t a wind event and we didn’t bring in a truckload of Nova staff. He provided
Lee County with Nova’s number. Ultimately, we’re probably going to have to send staff to Lee
County to help and that will impact business and slow us down.
• We’re doing everything we can to manage and have foresight. Five years from now, when
FEMA audits us on this process, if we fail, you will all pay the price through higher insurance
rates and possible reduced federal assistance for future events.
• We have to put the community back together, but need to be measured in our efforts.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
• If there’s a Section 1316 declaration and a property owner wants to waive their right to flood
insurance under the NFIP, the county doesn’t have any way to force them. It’s at the property
owner’s discretion.
• When they don’t purchase flood insurance, they affirmatively waive NFIP and the county leaves
them alone. There’s no recourse.
• Code Enforcement: If there’s an elevated home and a resident has elevated it above Base-Flood
Elevation, but they have a storage/parking access area below and convert it to a living area, they
will come in to get permits and that puts them in non-compliance. If they don’t have flood
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insurance, it doesn’t matter. They’re not going to be reimbursed for any type of loss, but that is non-
compliant. If the county doesn’t see it or know it’s there, they won’t know, but if they know it’s
there, the homeowner will be told the property is non-compliant because it jeopardizes the county’s
participation in the NFIP.
• The City of Naples has sent a Section 1316 declaration to woman who lives on the beach. She
doesn’t care and says to get her off the list. Code Enforcement knows about it, but has agreed not to
pursue it in exchange for her acknowledging that she’s no longer eligible for flood insurance.
FEMA takes a hard look at that because it’s starting to compromise the integrity of an entire
program that gives discounts to the county community.
• There may be certain cases where the county would be willing to help a property owner with
Section 1316. Is it habitable space or uninhabitable space where they want to add living quarters on
the ground floor? There are cases, such as a house on the beach with a rec room below FEMA, but
it’s not considered a bedroom or habitable space. Then the question is whether it’s a clear code
violation. But the property owner acknowledges it’s a code violation and asks Code Enforcement to
back off. The county then sends a Section 1316 under the National Flood Insurance Act, saying the
property owner won’t comply and asks to remove the homeowner from the list of eligible property
owners to get flood insurance and the property owner is fine with that. But they would be barred
from any further permitting.
• When a property owner sells a property like that, the new property homeowner inherits that and is
unhappy after learning they’re barred from further permitting. If they want to put in new hurricane-
impact glass windows or other upgrades and provide us with plans and we notice that area is
reserved for storage because parking access has been converted, it should be utilized for storage or
parking access. Once you start introducing plumbing, that’s when it exceeds storage and parking
access, so they’d automatically be flagged and Code Enforcement would be notified about a Section
1316.
• The county’s experience is that people have not made the correct adjustments to come back into
compliance.
• Revision Plan: Requirements and details will be reduced. Structural things need to be tidied up.
Electrical may not be required in much detail because an electrician can come in after-the-fact and
do it, like a special permit, or rehabilitating electrical will be part of the scope of a general permit.
• When an owner, builder or contractor applies for a permit to repair and replace damaged drywall
and damaged electrical outlets, they’re going to need to be specific about the scope of work and to
make sure it’s not a remodel or changing space. It must be put back to its original condition. The
county won’t expect more than a good description that it’s being returned to its original condition.
• After emergency removal of debris in the areas where sand makes them impassable, the county will
work on vegetation removal.
• Storm debris will be pulled to the curb by contractors who have the right of entry into communities
and it will be picked up. If it’s related to the storm, that’s reimbursable.
• Naples beach residents are hiring independent contractors to do cleanup themselves and are getting
their own Dumpsters and taking them to the county landfill. The county can’t control that. Our
Waste Management team is working through that with us when we are out at the landfill. They’re
paying tipping fees. Some people don’t care and just want it gone.
• The county deployed AshBritt Environmental Inc., which has more than 80 trucks and will have
more than 100 by tomorrow. We’re managing that internally through our emergency contract.
• The county’s first push is C&D locations . Residents have debris all over and in their front yards, so
we’re trying to get that cleaned up first.
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• The county is staging locations for horticultural debris drop-off. Information is on the county Solid
& Hazardous Waste website, which is being continuously updated as new locations open and new
information becomes available.
• The Sheriff’s Office Marine Unit did safety and asset protection patrols over the weekend. Many
vessels were pushed into the waterways, with a lot of C&D and horticultural materials intermixed in
some of the back bays, especially at the north end.
• There are two county group missions being run in conjunction with the Solid & Hazardous Waste
groups, with one handling waterways and the other focusing on beaches. They’re cleaning up
beaches and putting debris that’s being washed up in strategic locations. The AshBritt team then
picks that up at drop-off points along the beach.
• Mr. French praised Growth Management Deputy Department Head Trinity Scott for her work in
Naples Park, which experienced very little flooding due to those improvements.
• Contractor licensing is extremely important because we’re already seeing illegal contractors coming
in. The state Department of Business & Professional Regulation has one employee that handles
Southwest Florida. The DBPR is posting signs.
• The county also will post signs about illegal contractors, with a phone number to report illegal
activity and is working with the Sheriff’s Office on prosecution.
Licensing Compliance Supervisor Timothy Crotts provided a report about contractor licensing and
compliance:
• We’ve tasked our investigators to search for unlicensed contractors, who tend to cause the most
harm to homeowners and business owners by not following the rules and not knowing what they’re
doing. For most trades, they must take an exam to ensure they know what they’re doing.
• Out-of-state unlicensed contractors cause the most issues and harm.
• On the Tuesday before the hurricane hit, he held an emergency meeting of the Contractors’
Licensing Board, which authorized him to issue licenses for tree-trimming and removal and
roofing. That was based on what happened after Hurricane Irma.
• When the CLB meets again in a couple of weeks, we’re going to expand that temporary licensing to
add drywall and carpentry and to allow RCs, BCs and GCs to be able to come in, but limit them to
carpentry and drywall.
• The secretary of DBPR issued an emergency order at the beginning of the week, allowing state-
certified RCs, BCs and GCs to do roofing. That expands licenses to those registered with DBPR
and those locally licensed in other counties. The DBPR secretary is allowing them to come in and
do the same trade and has waived county boundaries.
• If you’re a registered RC, BC or GC contractor within the state of Florida, you can come into any
jurisdiction and do roofing. That scope might be broadened.
• The county’s job is to get out in the field because outside contractors are coming in. We’ll be
canvassing the county and posting signs to let them know that under the Florida statute, unlicensed
contracting is a felony. We will cite those contractors and turn over that information to the Sheriff’s
Office for prosecution.
Mr. French provided a report about traffic lights:
• Traffic lights were an issue. There were historic rainfalls here, with about 9 inches more annually,
so poles came down due to saturated ground and the surge. The surge caused telephone poles along
U.S. 41 to come down and it was impassable.
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• U.S. 41 went completely underwater. Going toward Everglades City was impassable, a first. This
became a very large rainmaker in Central Florida, causing a watershed out of LaBelle and other
areas. Plus, there was a storm surge.
• Systems performed well, but Everglades was met by the ocean on the other side of the road and
then the water came back, so there wasn’t much scouring, but it was very wet and caused poles to
fall.
• LCEC worked to upright poles. DOT did a great job getting vegetation out of the road. Roads
weren’t shut down Wednesday because the winds weren’t here, just water rushing.
Transportation Engineering Director Jay Ahmad provided a report:
• On Thursday after the hurricane, about 70% of the county’s 225 signals were down due to no FPL
power or damage to traffic lights. All are now active, with 11 on generators. They’re flashing due to
some power issues.
• The teams did amazing work throughout the storm.
• We had a major traffic day after the storm because the community really doesn’t understand that if
it’s a dark signal, you must stop like it’s a four-way stop. The rules of the road were ignored and it’s
scary to see drivers on both sides going 50 mph on Pine Ridge Road through the lights.
• Chokoloskee Bridge wasn’t damaged, but water eroded up to the shoulder. Luckily, it’s not under
the pavement, so we closed the shoulders and the roads are still open.
• Goodland Bridge suffered minor erosion on its sides but it wasn’t closed.
• The remainder of county bridges suffered minimal to no damage.
• Many street lights are down. It will take a long time to replace some circuits and street lights that
fell, especially by the shore. Water was up to 6-7 feet by Vanderbilt Drive, so they’ll need a major
replacement. Lights are on flashing now and two signals will continue to be dark for a while.
• All county construction sites are active and county contractors are working, with Quality
Enterprises on Whippoorwill, Thomas Marine Construction and CA Zepp on the bridges east of 29,
and Quality Enterprises on Vanderbilt and Veterans Memorial. County construction sites suffered
minimal damage.
Mr. French reported that:
• You’re going to start seeing a cycle through. If you’ve got questions over the weekend, Mike Bosi
and Ken Kovensky will be covering for him.
• Next week will probably be busier than this week, now that contractors are arriving and supplies
and logistics are being located.
• He walked through the Ritz-Carlton for about two hours today. Large employers have asked staff to
stop by because their teams are there, so we try to accommodate them. They’ve got truckloads of
staff, people and materials coming down.
• Some staff members don’t get home until 12:30 a.m. after starting at 7 a.m., so we don’t want to
burn out staff.
• We’re still more than 10% down on staffing levels. We don’t have enough staff for this, so we’re
doing our best to make the best use of the staff we have without burning them out. Every time he’s
spoken with Lee County, he’s asked them to promise they won’t recruit Collier County staff, but
they haven’t agreed to that.
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Public Utilities Director Matt McLean provided a report:
• One of the big failures after Hurricane Irma was lift stations. This time, there were only three SSOs
(Sanitary Sewer Overflows), small spills that were confirmed and reported to FDEP.
• Collier County was able to manage its nearly 1,000 lift stations through pumper trucks and
generators.
• There was significant damage west of U.S. 41, along the coast.
• About 40 suffered major damage or the control panels were submerged, so we’re in the process of
finalizing diesel-bypass pumps for installation on those for long-term, temporary measures. In the
meantime, we’ve been running pumper trucks 24/7 to handle those loads.
• It’s been a successful mission with staged gas facilities sporadically throughout the county to
continue to keep county contractors moving. At one point, there were over 80 pumper trucks on that
mission. We’ve cut that to less than 40 now because FPL has done a fantastic job restoring power.
• We’re lucky we didn’t have a wind event because it would have been more difficult to manage.
• Where we started was terrible, but we were able to manage it and with FPL’s partnership, we were
able to restore power to the majority of undamaged stations that were maintaining it, but we’ve
decommissioned a lot of that mission.
• Horticultural update: As of 4 p.m., residents who don’t want to wait for AshBritt pickup can take
residential horticultural debris to four locations: Tim Nance Recycling Drop-Off center by the
County Fairgrounds; Immokalee Transfer station on Stockade Road; Marco Island Recycling Drop-
Off center on Chalmer Drive; or Naples Recycling Center at Naples Airport on Corporate Flight
Drive. There’s no commercial use there and there’s no charge for residents and contractors won’t be
allowed in.
• There were 80 C&D haulers today and there will be more tomorrow.
• Haulers are first hitting Gulfshore Boulevard, Isles of Capri and the Marco, Goodland and the
Pelican Bay area. After that, they’ll go to Everglades City, Bayshore, Lely and Barefoot Beach.
• So far today, they’ve brought in almost 7,000 cubic yards of C&D (145 loads) and are increasing
that mission.
Mr. French reported that:
• As work continues, damage is assessed and that data goes directly to our server in Public Utilities.
It’s a very coordinated effort compared with previous years.
• There was raw sewage on the ground in the City of Naples, at Harmony Shores Trailer Park, which
is behind a shut-down Pizza Hut, an area serviced by the city. There was 5 feet of water there, so
they were bound to have sewage backup through manholes. The systems kept up as best they could
under their designs, but there was bound to be overflow.
• This is going to be a long-term mission. The community is counting on us. We’re not paid by
county taxpayers, but by permit fees.
• We’re going to do everything we can to expedite disaster-related permits.
• If you have a job that’s hanging, costing money and you need to get people in homes, let’s talk
about it and we can look at those independently.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
• If you’re outside of 75 feet or closer to the edge of a preserve, you can pull out horticulture and
remove it.
• A day after the hurricane, you could almost get through Clam Pass. Wiggins Pass is OK.
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• The Sheriff’s Office, which was conducting safety and coastal protection patrols, has a NOAA
aerial map of the northern boundaries and back areas that identifies more than 100 vessels all over
mangroves and other areas.
• Controlling waterways was difficult, so we should encourage boaters to be careful because there’s a
lot of construction and horticultural debris floating around, as well as a bale of insulation floating
out to the Gulf of Mexico.
• Marco Island instituted a boating moratorium and lifted it soon afterward so people who are able
could assist northern neighbors at the county’s North Naples boat launch, which took on about 3
feet of water.
• Facilities Project Manager Camden Smith was out there on Saturday pushing everybody to get out
there to clean it up.
• The hurricane lifted floating docks above pier levels and distributed boats in a haphazard way, with
some boats upside down on top of pilings.
• There was damage to channel markers and sand was redistributed; markers will have to be re-
installed.
• People can report any damage they see to 311, or self-report on Crisis Track, which goes into the
county system and is provided to the state and federal government.
• If you’re missing a boat, you can call the Sheriff’s non-emergency number. The CCSO has a list of
vessels, vessel numbers and descriptions.
• The county is still assessing beach facilities for damage.
• At the former Naples Grand/The Registry, it’s not gone, but the pilings are still there and it appears
old construction was damaged in the surge and scouring due to water velocity.
• At Lely Barefoot Beach, the Education Center is still there, but the parking lot had about 4 feet of
beach sand, causing trucks to get stuck.
• Most sand was pushed inland.
• At the county’s Pelican Bay facility, all windows were blown out and walkways disintegrated.
• In Park Shore, a concrete walkway in the park is completely full of sand.
• There appeared to be no damage at Venetian Village stores, but there’s a condo community east of
it with a 35-foot Grady White boat in its pool. That will require a crane for removal.
• Garland Transport has been helping on Marco Island with pilings, docks and boats.
• The county doesn’t waive permit fees; it reduces fees. Insurance covers permitting fees; FEMA
doesn’t.
• The building code did what it was designed to do. Roofs and structures remained intact, but some
homes got wet up to the roof.
• Exemptions under the county ordinance are still in effect, so 200 square feet for roofing doesn’t
require a permit, while anything more does. No county policies are being changed.
• The FEMA standard is 18 inches. Anything 18 inches and below is calculated as minor damage,
while 18 inches and above is major damage. The county allows an exemption from a permit for 12
inches and below because it doesn’t extend to electrical outlets and covers baseboard.
• Cabinets are in the county’s exemption ordinance for a single-family detached home.
• The exemption ordinance for Hurricane Ian Recovery is listed on the county website.
• Permits issued for work prior to the hurricane are being looked at on a case-by-case basis and are
being expedited.
• Homeowners should bring homes up to the prior condition to remain under the building code;
upgrades can be done later.
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• A pending pool-cage replacement that’s holding up a house’s CO can be sent in as a full revision
and permitting will be expedited if it’s related to the disaster.
• 50% Rule: If there’s a mortgage involved, sometimes insurance companies will write a check to the
mortgage company and then the mortgage company is responsible for ensuring that the work was
done. There could be an inspection by the mortgage company after the first phase and after 50%
completion, so homeowners with mortgages must use insurance money for repairs to bring homes
back to their prior condition.
• What’s turned in for a permit must be calculated by Chris Mason’s office under the 50% Rule. A
calculation will be made that’s based on the contractor’s Opinion of Probable Cost.
• City of Naples Building Official Craig Molé tendered his resignation and is going to Sanibel.
• Engineering Inspections Supervisor Joe Bianchi wants two more full-time staffers because land
development inspections are getting more difficult to complete. He’s had many inexperienced
temporary staff through Nova and a lot of turnover, which makes consistency in inspections
difficult.
4. Emergency Permitting
Building Department Director Rich Long provided hurricane permitting updates:
• There was mostly flood and very little wind damage, so as we rebuild, we’ve made the cleanup
process permit-free.
• Once the cleanup is done and drywall is removed, we’re going to require permits because we
must capture that data for FEMA and ensure we’re within the 50% value forms.
• Permits that are labeled a Disaster Permit will be expedited through intake and to plan
reviewers. That will be a priority. We will continue normal construction reviews and will
balance staff/resources to prioritize recovery efforts while keeping normal construction moving.
• Electrical: We’re good at this now. Once electrical contractors get involved and start repairs,
they’ll contact us directly. We do emergency permitting, which allows them to start work. They
call us to say they’re repairing this address and they’ll be in for a permit tomorrow, so we’ve
coordinated with FPL and we’ll send an inspector there immediately to get that done. We’ll
systematically get as many residents’ power restored as possible, as soon as FPL fixes it.
• That’s summarizes our recovery effort process for a storm.
Chairman Varian asked if most electrical involves service issues, such as the mastheads and other
issues.
Mr. Long said this storm was really different because we didn’t get the wind. Most was flooding. He
wasn’t certain how much there will be because FPL will go in and if everything is intact, FPL may go
ahead and re-energize without us. They may contact us, but when we went through hurricanes Wilma
and Irma, FPL contacted us on many properties to say they had a crew there and wanted to re-energize
and asked us to send an inspector out.
Chairman Varian asked about homes that were flooded. What is on the electric side? What’s the
scope of work that’s required? Can we just change out devices? Do we have to change out wiring? Is
there any C-Code on this or what happens with those?
Mr. Long said you do not have to change out wiring, although the outer sheath of wiring in a home is
water-resistant, so the design and devices are going to be needed because they’re not made to be
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inundated with saltwater. Our website says you don’t need a permit to demo wet drywall and cabinets
and all of that, but we remind people to demo the minimum. Don’t get crazy because you will impact
the 50% rule. You know an electrical system is going to be an extra $8,000, so you really don’t need to
replace that or plumbing.
What we saw with Hurricane Irma was that a lot of out-of-town restoration companies came in. They
were sent by insurance companies or property management companies. They gutted everything and by
the time we knew what was going on, it was too late. We had to do some creative figuring for Glades to
get them back whole because they gutted all systems and drywall, everything. It was down to bare
bones. We’ve tried to make that message clear in our website language.
Chairman Varian said once we get a permit, we are going to be triggered with arc fault and breakers
and other factors, and maybe some of the panels don’t work, so we’ll probably end up replacing panels.
Is that going to be part of it?
Mr. Long said you’re probably going to be replacing panels, depending on how much water inundation
there was. If you’re not extending circuits and are just putting things back the way they were, that’s
almost like a Level-1 alteration, but he said to confirm that with Fred Clum. If people want to take
advantage of a gutted home and upgrade to what they’ve always wanted to do, they need to be careful
about that dollar sign.
Chairman Varian said he has two different clienteles, such as Barefoot Beach residents and other
affluent communities that want upgrades, and others who want to return homes to the way they were.
Mr. Long said the driving factor is elevation and the 50% Rule. If you’re living floors above 1-foot
Base-Flood Elevation, you can do what you want.
Chairman Varian said that what he’s seen in the last four days is that most homes have three or four
feet of water, so it’s basically drywall 4 feet. We want to keep within that range, so cabinets and
flooring will be removed. That’s why he’s telling everybody about 8 inches above the water line, at
least that – insulation and some exterior walls. He’s heard comments that the entire electric system
must be redone. He’s also run into this with the arc-fault breakers, which won’t fit some older panels. If
we’re required to put the arc-fault in, now it’s the panel or we have to put in arc-fault devices as we go
along.
Mr. Long said you’re dealing with the existing building code. We’re not going to be in the new
building code, so it depends on the level of the alteration and what you’re doing. If you’re going to
reconfigure space, remodel and extend circuits, add all new lighting and all of that, that throws you
automatically into the new building codes.
Mr. McLean said that FEMA Tech Bulletin 13-0-25A, the flood restoration bulletin, is what his
insurance company gave him and advised: “Follow this bulletin.”
Mr. Long said he’d defer to Chris Mason, the county’s new director of resiliency, on that.
Mr. Valle said his understanding is that if you’re below the baseline of that and you’re going to comply
with the 50% rule, you’re either getting the value out of the tax appraiser, plus 25% divided by 2, or
you’re getting a new FEMA appraisal to determine the property’s value. But what happens if the
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vertical construction value of that residence does not allow you to rebuild that home back to even a
Level 1 restoration? Are we going to condemn the building? Or are you going to say, OK, give me a
shell permit because we have closed out a permit and then we have to wait to be able to go open up a
new permit, if you’re following that same 50%-rule guideline?
Mr. Long said that unfortunately, it’s either the property appraiser or a private appraisal. FEMA
doesn’t get into the appraisal business.
Mr. Valle said it’s a private appraisal for FEMA.
Long said during a post-event, you can’t stage the work by permitting like we do when there’s not an
event. It’s storm damage. You have to mitigate all that storm damage back to its original state before
the storm came.
Mr. Valle asked what happens to a home that doesn’t have the vertical-construction value and they
don’t have the value at the 50% rule to restore it back to its original condition? Is that then a
condemnation at that point?
Mr. French said we can’t issue a permit. You never lose your occupancy, but the bottom line is we
can’t issue a permit, so if you do the work, you’re doing it unlawfully. The right way to do it is to
elevate the structure.
Mr. McLean said he can’t advise that to a client. He has people in line waiting for answers. He’s
supposed to tell them if you’re going to exceed the 50% rule, you’re going to do it illegally? That’s the
advice we’re told to give clients?
Mr. French said he’s not giving that advice. We’re telling you we won’t issue a permit because that
would be unlawful.
Mr. McLean said if you’re following the FEMA Tech Bulletin for storm damage, all we’re doing is
mitigating storm damage. No permit is required.
Mr. Long said for some things, a permit won’t be required, but FEMA will still need the 50%
document to clear that storm damage from that residence. It’s called substantial. They have the ability
to waterproof, they can do flood panels. The water would dry, so the value of those structures is usually
big enough to be a problem.
Mr. Valle said the homeowner is essentially left to raze their home or raise their home if they’re on
some kind of a stilt-type situation. Those are the only two alternatives if you don’t have the 50% value
to take it all the way back and you can’t stage the property. That’s how he understands what he read.
Mr. Long said that’s why it’s important that you crunch those numbers before reconstruction, so you
know what’s needed going into it. What we ended up doing with the Glades, which was built in 1974,
was that they didn’t have granite countertops back then. They had mica countertops. Homeowners had
to bring it back to the prior condition. If they want to go back in and upgrade, that’s a normal permit.
Then you can start phasing it in.
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A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
• If a client chooses a private appraisal, the property can be evaluated prior to its storm condition
by validating it through pre-storm photos.
• Mr. French just visited the Turtle Club and its project management team. They did exactly that
and hired Ray Carroll to get an appraisal on the Turtle Club and Vanderbilt Beach. It’s going to
be pre-storm. Ray is very well versed in this and the federal SI/SD (substantial
improvement/substantial damage) policy, which a building official must follow.
• There are going to be structures that we can’t issue permits on unless they meet the current
condition of the code, which is predominantly elevation.
• As a result, mobile homes are going to get destroyed. Some that are set on grade and have been
here since the ‘50s and ‘60s.
• There are homes in the Bayshore Triangle from the ‘50s and ‘60s that are built on elevated.
They were great elevation but went 5 feet under. The county can’t do much because it’s
restricted by the code.
• It may be hard to stop people from running to Home Depot and rebuilding it that way. We can’t
enforce what we don’t know.
• Because there wasn’t a wind event, most windows and roofs weren’t impacted, so you’ve got no
structurals. Frame walls would be fine. It’s drywall, paint and cabinets. The most expensive
portion of a structure is usually the structure. There are $350,000 half-baths in Port Royal, so
the most important thing is knowing that number going into it. Work within that parameter and
the county is good at trying to work within FEMA guidelines.
• The county is trying to stay consistent with the City of Marco Island and the City of Naples. Mr.
French spoke with their building officials, Raul Perez and Craig Molé, who advised the limit
was 4 feet. He wasn’t certain where Craig got 4 feet. When he talked to him as the storm was
passing over his house, he said 18-24 inches. Four feet is a stretch because FEMA rules say 18
inches and anything above 18 inches is considered major damage. Now the City of Naples has
changed its message back to the county’s guidance, which is 18 inches, per the code.
• If the water level is more than 18 inches, a permit is required for repairs.
• If you file an insurance claim, FEMA will know if you did the repairs. That shows up as a
repetitive-loss property for the county. We’ve marked that we already know, the high
watermark in that neighborhood, so if there was unlawful construction that occurred, it likely
would show up through the deed process, which would show the home suffered damage and
they would go back and check for a permit.
• Real-estate brokers have an obligation to disclose any material fact that that can adversely affect
a property, so that would have to be disclosed, so a potential buyer can have an opportunity to
look for a permit of restoration.
• The application the county uses tracks everywhere staff has been, the activity, frequency and
date and time through geo trackers.
• That data is public record through the federal Freedom of Information Act once it gets to
FEMA. That information, the flat file, will be added to CityView, so when someone comes in,
we know there was 5 feet of water in the house. If they’re just doing a remodel on a bathroom,
we’ll question it.
• Direct questions on the 50% rule to Chris Mason, the county’s new director of community
planning and resiliency.
• If residents and contractors don’t comply with FEMA regulations, that threatens the county’s
participation in NFIP (National Flood Insurance Program) and could result in suspension.
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• Residents say flood insurance is very difficult to deal with. Claims are $250,000 max, which, in
many cases, is pennies to residents, so they don’t care and question why they should participate
in NFIP.
• If they don’t participate in NFIP, it jeopardizes the county’s disaster funding. A flood-insurance
policy will cover $250,000 for the structure and $100,000 for contents. A homeowner can get
surplus insurance through the NFIP, but it’s expensive, so some people in more affluent
communities are using the private market, which is tricky. We don’t know that much about the
private market. We’re dealing with the federal product.
• You don’t want to be considered a non-participating community due to non-compliance because
it’s a tough road back.
• Most federally backed mortgage-lender products are not going to provide a loan without flood
insurance if you’re in a flood zone. If you’re not a community that participates in NFIP, you
won’t be able to get a loan.
• Years ago, if many communities did not participate, then flood insurance was exceptionally
expensive when it was required by the mortgage lender. Under the Florida Building Code’s
2017 revision, NFIP was dropped, so that falls on the licensed building official, whose license is
at stake for personal liability if there are willful code violations. NFIP language is in the Florida
Building Code.
• You’re almost forced as a community to be at a minimum, a 10, which is entry level. Collier
County is currently at 5 for NFIP.
• For residents with flood insurance whose homes didn’t flood, they get a 5% discount for every
point the county drops.
• Next to Miami-Dade, Collier County has the most enforced policies nationwide. More than 90%
of Collier County is considered a special flood-hazard district, which is almost unheard of.
We’re severely audited. It’s a three-year process that Mr. Mason handles.
• Those numbers total about $8.3 million, a savings that stays in the community. There are over
60,000 flood-insurance policies, with an average savings of $142 per policy.
• If someone has NFIP and suffered flooding, but they don’t want to rebuild, they can collect
$250,000, as long as there’s no mortgage on the property and there are no non-compliance
issues. If they have a mortgage, the lender will make sure the money is used for restoration.
• There are a lot of rental homes in the Estey Avenue area that were built in the 1960s. Mr.
French spoke with a man with month-to-month and week-to-week leases for workforce housing.
He owns them, he has no flood insurance and wants to put them back together without permits,
despite admitting there was 5 feet of water. Mr. French sent Rich over to speak with him.
• Re expediting of permitting, there’s a box for applicants to check. The scope of the work can be
captured in the description.
• When a disaster is declared, there are significant fee reductions for any disaster construction that
requires permitting. The application fee is about half-price. You recover the cost, but FEMA
does not pay.
• FEMA is the funder of last resort, so if someone says they didn’t have insurance or is
underinsured, they’re need to exhaust all insurance options and then they push the
applicant/property owner to the Small Business Administration for an SBA loan. If they don’t
qualify for an SBA loan, they may qualify for some federal funding, but it won’t be enough to
rebuild. It could be enough for relocation, a hotel, shelter, food or water for a short period if
they don’t have housing. Caseworkers are assigned, but rarely does FEMA cut a check in these
disasters for homeowners, and certainly not for businesses. FEMA funding typically requires a
federal act.
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• Collier County has been qualified to receive funding based on how fast we turned everything in,
the severity of damage, what we’ve witnessed and the damage assessment. That’s what’s most
important. It’s identified in the Stafford Act (Public Assistance Program).
• The definition of dry beach: The City of Naples has a pretty dry beach. Vanderbilt has a wet
beach because there’s about 4-6 feet of sand that’s gone because it went inland. If you drive
down Vanderbilt, you’ll see piles of beach sand throughout communities.
• Hurricane Ian is going to be different, very impactful, long-range. We’re getting bad news
stories, but are taking it one step at a time.
• The Building Department must use the Property Appraiser’s improved value. On top of that,
FEMA allows the county to add 30% to that value; It used to be 20%. The reason we’re going
from 20% to 30% is based on the 2022 tax-assessment adjustment. That’s a term Ray Carroll
put forth to us, so 30% will be added to the improved value, which gives a homeowner more
wiggle room for improvements and repairs.
• Equation: Improved value + 30% ÷ 2.
• Pool cages are exempt. Focus on the bones of a structure. Design and permit fees are exempt.
• FEMA has a Substantial Improvement, Substantial Damage Desk Reference. That’s what the
county follows in the storm process.
• For permitting, follow the 50% worksheet with all the attachments. Submit it for the
department’s plan reviewers. The county’s FEMA group will be reviewing permits.
• For low-rise, two to three-story condominiums, where the ground floor is at grade and ground-
floor units were demo’d, the county will look at the cumulative value of the structure over the
building’s footprint. Those homeowners, if they all agree, can share in the 50% savings. Condos
are tricky, but as permits come in, the county will have that information to advise them.
• Under FEMA rules, whatever a building footprint is, the building structure must be all on top.
You can borrow money from residents in that one structure. You can’t take another structure
nearby and have them loan you money. In the past, Ray Carroll has gone in and appraised an
entire building. He went into every individual unit, created an appraisal for the entire building
and submitted that as a construction value. Then the homeowners all signed a letter saying they
agreed to provide that value.
• 50% Rule: FEMA language is that it must equal or exceed.
• In the City of Naples, there’s a building structure where two ground-floor units were completely
wiped out. The storm surge took out drywall, framing and everything all the way to the back
wall, so those two ground-floor units are in trouble. Two unit-owners above those two ground-
floor units could realistically say, “We’ll evaluate the entire building and give the value to do
the build-out for those two.” When June 2023 arrives and there’s an early storm and wind, they
won’t have FEMA money to rebuild those units above them because the ground floor units used
that money in October. It’s per calendar year and each unit owner must give permission.
• Over the past two years, residents have said they want to have something in writing that allows
them to do that because they don’t want to hear secondhand that the owner later changed his
mind and there’s nothing to go back to.
5. Committee Member Comments
6. Adjourn
Future Meeting Dates:
Nov. 2, 2022, 3 p.m.
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Mr. Valle made a motion to adjourn the meeting. It was seconded by Mr. Mitchell. The motion
passed unanimously, 9-0.
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by
the order of the chairman at 4:48 p.m.
COLLIER COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
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William Varian, Chairman
These minutes were approved by the Committee/Chairman on ________________, as presented
(choose one) _______, or as amended ________.
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MINUTES OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
Naples, Florida, November 2, 2022
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, the Collier County Development Services Advisory
Committee, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on
this date at 3 P.M. in REGULAR SESSION at the Collier County Growth Management
Department Building, Conference Room #609/610, 2800 Horseshoe Drive North, Naples,
Florida, with the following members present:
Chairman: William J. Varian
Vice Chairman: Blair Foley
David Dunnavant (excused)
James E. Boughton
Clay Brooker
Chris Mitchell
Robert Mulhere
Mario Valle
Norman Gentry
Marco Espinar
Laura Spurgeon-DeJohn
Jeremy Sterk (excused)
Jeff Curl
John English
Mark McLean
ALSO PRESENT: Jamie French, Deputy Department Head, GMD
Craig Brown, Principal Environmental Planner, Environmental Review
Joseph Mucha, East Naples District Supervisor, Code Enforcement
Drew Cody, Senior Project Manager, Utilities Planning
Lorraine Lantz, Planner III, Transportation Engineering
Ken Kovensky, Director, Operations & Regulation Management
Rich Henderlong, Principal Planner, GMD
Patricia Mill, Senior Operations Analyst/Staff Liaison
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1. Call to Order - Chairman
Chairman Varian called the meeting to order at 3:02 p.m. A quorum consisting of 11 members was
convened; two arrived later.
2. Approval of Agenda
Mr. Valle moved to approve the agenda. It was seconded by Mr. Curl. The motion passed
unanimously, 11-0.
3. Approval of Minutes
DSAC Meeting – September 7, 2022
Vice Chairman Foley made a motion to approve the September 7, 2022, meeting minutes. It was
seconded by Mr. Curl. The motion passed unanimously, 11-0.
4. Public Speakers
(None)
5. Staff Announcements/Updates
a. Development Review Division – [Craig Brown, Supervisor – Environmental]
Mr. Brown asked that everyone provide a site plan with the submittal of pre-apps. We’ve been having
some difficulties with some pre-apps, such as no plans submitted, which makes it difficult for staff to
provide feedback.
Mr. Brooker asked if a site plan was required even if it’s just a straight rezone C-3 to C-4 and we’re
not proposing any development.
Brown said no. It’s only required for something complicated, not a straight rezone.
Brown detailed staff updates:
• We filled a senior environmental specialist position and that employee will start next week.
• We filled a planning-tech position; the start date is not specified but it’s soon.
• We’re working hard to get permits out, so the addition of two new employees will help.
b. Code Enforcement Division – [Joe Mucha, Supervisor, East Naples District]
Mr. Mucha provided monthly statistics from August 22-September 21 and reported that:
• Numbers are a bit down due to Hurricane Ian. We’ve been assisting Contractor Licensing and taking
more of a reactive approach, versus proactive, by assisting as much as we can pre- and post-storm.
• We provided hurricane shelter duty post-storm.
• We assisted with damage assessment post-storm.
• We’re passing out supplies, including food, water and tarps for roofs, and assisting Contractor
Licensing in checking for unregistered contractors, mostly during weekends.
[Mr. Gentry joined the meeting at 3:04]
• We just hired two full-time investigators.
• We’re in the process of hiring two additional investigators who will work nights and weekends,
which is a need that’s been expressed.
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• We will be advertising for another full-time investigator this Friday.
• We’ve been dealing with a lot of homeless camps in the East Naples District, which is more of a
problem post-storm. It’s gotten worse because they’re inhabiting places that were vacated and
damaged, so it’s an ongoing issue.
• Areas that were hit hard by Hurricane Ian were Bayshore, Isles of Capri and Henderson Creek.
We’ve been out there assisting as much as we can, but wer’e we’re taking more of a reactive
approach, versus proactive, at this time.
c. Public Utilities Department [Drew Cody, Senior Project Manager, Utilities Planning]
Mr. Cody reported that:
• At the last meeting, utility deviation requests had spiked way up, showing it was taking a
long time to get them done. We determined it was a system issue that was causing that and
worked around it, so those numbers are dropping back down and trending back to normal.
• Post-hurricane, 36 of our 927 lift stations are going to need a full-panel rework, which will
take about six months to be built and installed.
• 30 of those 36 lift stations are still on diesel bypass. Six of them were able to get through
enough so we don’t have to do that.
d. GMD Transportation Engineering Division – [Lorraine Lantz, Planner III]
Ms. Lantz reported that:
• We’re having our public meeting for the Wilson Boulevard Extension project, which is from
Wilson, over to Tobias, connecting down to City Gate North.
• This is the second public meeting for that project and we’re looking at the corridors that we’re
going to recommend, as opposed to a general area.
• The meeting will be Thursday, December 8 at the UF-IFAS Center. The time hasn’t been set,
but will probably be 5 p.m. We’ll probably do a full presentation, not an open-house concept.
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
• The Corridor Study from Livingston Road to Logan Road has been completed and the
recommendation is to add an overpass at the Livingston-Immokalee intersection, where Livingston
goes over and Immokalee stays at grade. That will move into the design phase in fiscal year 2026.
• The next major intersection there would be I-75. Transportation Engineering recommended a
diverging-diamond interchange, which must be coordinated with FDOT. That design phase is
expected to start sometime in the next 10 years.
[Mr. Boughton joined the meeting at 3:08]
• There were other intersection improvements, adding right-turn lanes or lanes for turn lanes, but the
Logan intersection is a partial continuous-flow intersection. That was Transportation Engineering’s
recommendation and will be funded in the Long-Range Plan for the 2036-2045 timeframe for
design. The Livingston overpass is what’s moving forward.
• She will ask Jay Ahmad for an update on the study for a roundabout or traffic device at Oaks and
Spanish Oaks, but she believes it will be an in-house design.
• The Whippoorwill Extension is moving forward and was a design-build, but she will ask Jay
Ahmad about the timing and completion date. The original study said 18 months and they’ve
already started, so it should be complete within the next 1½ years.
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• FDOT is working on I-75 and Collier Boulevard. It was advanced in the work program to be within
the next five years and is moving forward; she will follow up with DSAC on the timeline.
e. Collier County Fire Review
(None)
f. North Collier Fire Review
(None)
g. Operations & Regulatory Management Division – [Ken Kovensky, Director]
Mr. Kovensky outlined the September monthly activity report and provided other updates:
• Applied permits have been down for the last couple of months, averaging 3,700, compared with
about 4,500 last September and October, so there’s a lull.
• Staff has been keeping up with permits and is averaging about 100-200 permits in the queue.
• We’re currently working on yesterday’s permits, so we’re keeping up.
• About 15% of permits that came in during the last month were Hurricane Ian-related. We’re
expecting that to increase quite a bit.
• To assist the community in applying for Hurricane Ian permits, we’ve opened up an extra
satellite office at the Marco Island Airport to service that community, Isles of Capri and
surrounding areas. We’ve also expanded hours of operations for that office and the other four
satellite offices to five days a week to ensure we’re spread out countywide and available.
• In the Call Center, we’re still taking about 5,000 phone calls monthly and are now fully staffed.
Only 3-4% of calls were abandoned.
• We are finally fully staffed in Contractor Licensing, with five investigators. We try to
supplement that with KeyStaff employees, but KeyStaff has been unable to provide many
candidates for us to interview for that position.
• We were fully staffed in our finance group, with four budget analysts, but now we’re losing our
manager, Rady Edreva, who is moving to the corporate and internal control group.
• Three positions are now available that were approved during the budget process, two planning
technicians and a planner. We finished interviewing the planning technicians and are ready to
make job offers. We’ll be getting planner applications this week.
• We have openings for a fiscal tech and a GIS tech, positions that have been difficult to fill.
They’ve been posted for a couple of weeks and we’ll see what candidates applied on Friday.
• The Call Center number is: 252-2400.
h. Zoning Division – [Mike Bosi, Director]
Mr. Bosi provided a report on staffing and other issues:
• There are currently three vacancies within the Zoning Division, one in each section, LDC,
Comp Planning and Planning. We lost one employee due to retirement, another was lost to
the MPO, and another position has been vacant for about three months after someone left.
• Chris Mason was designated as director of Resiliency & Community Planning. He will lead
resiliency efforts for the Coastal Conservation Management element, which we modified. It
said within a year, we’d start resiliency planning and try to identify low-level areas prone to
flooding – which is relevant in this recent environment – and suggest strategies to help
address those issues, as well as community planning, those special-area studies and re-
studies, which is what Chris will cover.
• Jacob LaRow was designated as Director of Housing & Economic Development. Those
divisions were combined because economic development is tied in to housing and
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affordability. If you ask large or small businesses about trying to attract talent, they say
housing has a lot to do with that ability, as well as salaries to make a job offer attractive.
• At tomorrow’s Planning Commission meeting, we will be hearing about the AUIR. Six
other petitions, including a couple of controversial petitions, will be moving to the Board of
County Commissioners.
• The second of our golf course conversions, which is in Lakewood, will be heard by the
Planning Commission tomorrow. The first applicant, agent Michael Fernandez, was
encouraged that he’d created a design that would go over well with neighbors, but he heard
at the last minute that it doesn’t. Everyone can understand any golf course conversion is not
going to be received well by the majority of people who live within that area.
• At the November 17 Planning Commission meeting, they will again hear about the mental-
health and behavioral David Lawrence facility. There was a lot of pushback last time from
neighbors along that corridor who opposed it and we were trying to find some ways to
address some issues that were raised.
• On December 13, we’ll have two new commissioners, which can change complexion of the
Board of County Commissioners. We’ve got a lot of land-use petitions to work on with the
County Manager’s Office to ensure we minimize the number of controversial issues.
• The majority of petitions have been well received by neighbors but NIMBYism is still alive
and well.
• If you have a project in an established neighborhood, you’re going to have some opposition.
Clay can attest to some of the issues he’s had with his neighbors at Brookside.
A discussion ensued over NIMs and the following points were made:
• LDC Planning Manager Eric Johnson and his teammate Zach KardoKarto, a principal
planner, are taking the lead on Neighborhood Information Meetings and making virtual an
option. We’re suggesting it in combination with a physical NIM. That will be coming up
before DSAC so you can make recommendations.
• The virtual option eliminates the potential for disruptions. The only thing staff is concerned
about is that some residents aren’t well-versed with online technology or it’s not available,
so we’re weighing the pros and cons and will seek DSAC’s recommendation on
modifications.
• Other municipalities, such as Manatee County, accept only an online NIM for a use-by right
(not a zoning change) and there are other municipalities that accept virtual NIMs as the only
form of a NIM.
• Anytime staff can show there are other localities within Collier County or the state that have
embraced newer technologies or different approaches, that always allows for our
government to feel more comfortable with it.
6. New Business
a. Presentation on Voting Conflicts and Ethics [Colleen Greene, CAO]
[Attorney Greene provided a PowerPoint presentation, “Collier County Advisory Boards in the
Sunshine.”]
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
• The Sunshine Law applies to all boards and appointed and elected committee members.
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• The public records laws and ethics laws apply to all three levels of public servants – the
Board of County Commissioners, elected and appointed committee members and
employees.
• Members of the same board are barred from speaking to each other outside a meeting, but the
law doesn’t prohibit a DSAC board member, for example, from speaking to a Planning
Commission or BCC member.
• Subcommittee members, such as DSAC-LDR, are selected from the full board. If DSAC-
LDR needs another member due to a voting conflict or an absence, it must appoint
delegates. Several members can be selected or all board members can be appointed as
delegates who can be participate in a meeting in the event there won’t be a quorum present
or voting.
• For the five-member DSAC-LDR, three members are needed for a quorum.
• Online meetings were allowed only during COVID after the governor lifted the restriction
due to the emergency.
• Many DSAC members conduct professional business related to development and that must
be kept separate. The best possible judgment should be used when deciding whether to
recuse yourself from a vote. Avoid the perception that you are trying to influence a vote.
• Contractors and the public can request plans and other documents under state statutes,
Chapter 119, of the public records law.
• Text messages for BCC members or county employees can be requested under the state
public records law, but that has never occurred; county cell phones don’t have texting
capabilities.
• DSAC members’ notes are their own, but if they’re shared with another member or
employee, they become a public record. They should be saved for seven years, placed in a
binder and given to a staff liaison when a member leaves the board.
• If a board member lives in or owns property in an area being discussed for a vote, or a
relative owns property there, exercise judgment over whether to vote and avoid the
perception you are influencing a vote. If it’s a 400-home development, it’s usually not a
conflict due to the large number in a class of 400, while a smaller development, such as 12
homes, could present a conflict.
• If there is a conflict or you or your client would experience a gain or loss from a vote, a
board member must fill out a Form 8B, “Memorandum of Voting Conflict for County, Local
and Other Public Officers.” It can be turned in prior to the meeting or at the next meeting,
before minutes from the prior meeting are approved.
• State the nature of your conflict on the record when announcing your intention to
abstain/recuse yourself from voting.
• If you represent a client who would benefit from a vote, recuse yourself, despite getting paid
if it gets approved or not.
• If a member has a voting conflict, but his/her knowledge would benefit other board
members and aid the discussion, he/she can participate in the discussion, but not to influence
the board’s vote. The best possible judgment should be used on a case-by-case basis.
• If you are unsure whether there’s a voting conflict, contact Deputy County Attorney Colleen
Greene, because you’re required to vote unless there’s a statutory conflict, a real or
perceived conflict. It may not be a conflict.
• If it’s too close to call, the CAO can call the state Committee on Ethics.
• If you have lunch with someone whose project is being voted on, don’t allow them to pay
for lunch. If they do, you have 90 days to correct that and repay that gift. Dutch treat is best.
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b. PL20220005067 – Scriveners Errors [Mike Bosi]
Mr. Bosi said the Scrivener’s errors are detailed on p. 52 of the packet and 10 are very basic and non-
substantive.
Mr. Mulhere made a motion to approve the Scrivener’s error corrections. It was seconded by Mr.
English. The motion passed unanimously, 13-0.
c. PL20220003445 – RLSA Updates [Mike Bosi]
Ms. DeJohn said she filed a Form 8B because she helped create this presentation on Land-
Development Codes on behalf of the county.
Mr. English said he also will be filing a Form 8B.
Mr. Mulhere said he already abstained from this vote and filed a Form 8B when it came before the
DSAC-LDR and he will also be abstaining today.
Mr. Bosi noted he’s doing this presentation because Eric Johnson can’t be here, Ms. DeJohn is
substituting for her employee, Chrissy Fisher, who has helped Eric Johnson work on the RLSA
amendments, and Craig Brown is standing in for Jamie Cook, who can’t be here due to a conflict.
[Mr. Bosi detailed the RLSA updates during a PowerPoint presentation.]
A discussion ensued and the following points were made:
• The most prominent environmental advocacy groups involved in the amendments were the
Conservancy, which has taken a strictly negative view of the RLSA in relation to
environmental impacts; Defenders of Wildlife; U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service; and the
Audubon, which has been very supportive and pragmatic, noting it must involve give-and-
take.
[Mr. Bosi continued his PowerPoint presentation.]
Vice Chairman Foley thanked him for the presentation, noting that the DSAC-LDR spent a lot of
time on this.
Mr. Bosi said he attended the subcommittee’s meetings, which took a detailed look at the RLSA. The
county needs to better define its programs. The Rural Land Stewardship Program is one of the best and
most beneficial regulatory programs the county has. The majority of that 200,000 acres are going to
become 4,000-5,000-acre pre-planned communities that attend to economic needs, household needs,
wildlife needs and social needs. There can be some associated inefficiencies but compared to a one-off
residential or commercial project, the end-result is much better. There will be a lot of interplay between
the villages and towns in infrastructure and levels of service. There’s a set price for the acquisition of
that land and it’s set aside for infrastructure needs. It’s the only place that’s required to provide
affordable housing, so it’s providing for workforce needs of communities that are being developed. It’s
a program that’s going to help take us into the 21st century.
A discussion ensued over the Conservancy’s concerns and the following points were made:
• Restoration plans that do not achieve stated outcomes is critical. Conditions on the site don’t
always end with a good outcome. That should be added because it’s critical.
• SSAs are perpetual and don’t involve any turnover.
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• SSAs are only reviewed by the BCC. The Conservancy says there shouldn’t be an extra layer.
• The LDC should require measurable success criteria based on specific environmental outcomes
and not just completing a task. What if you plant 6,000 trees and they don’t survive?
• Agreements and easements must include perpetual-maintenance agreements to manage or control
exotics. These should be deeded over to an entity because the taxpayer should not pay for that.
• The Conservancy and League of Women Voters participated in GMP hearings and can continue
to participate.
• When the BCC adopted these amendments, they knew other ideas would come up that they’d
need to adopt. This isn’t the last time it will be revised.
Vice Chairman Foley made a motion to approve PL20220003445 – RLSA Updates. It was seconded
by Mr. Gentry. The motion was carried unanimously, 10-0; Ms. DeJohn, Mr. English and Mr.
Mulhere abstained.
7. Old Business
8. Committee Member Comments
Chairman Varian asked if there were any members whose terms were expiring.
Ms. Mill said two or three were expiring and she’s working on a list that DSAC will vote on in
December.
9. Adjourn
Future Meeting Dates:
December 7, 2022, 3 p.m.
Mr. Brooker made a motion to adjourn the meeting. It was seconded by Mr. Valle. The motion
passed unanimously, 13-0.
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by the
order of the chairman at 5:03 p.m.
COLLIER COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
______________________________________
William Varian, Chairman
These minutes were approved by the Committee/Chairman on ________________, as presented
(choose one) _______, or as amended ________.
Code Enforcement Division Monthlv Report
October 22,2022- November 27,2022 Highlights
. Cases opened:
o Cases closed due to voluntary compliance:
. Propertyinspections:
. Lien sea rches requested:
Trends
Cases Opened Per Month
406
764
2262
808
700
600
500
400
300
200
100
0
665 669 66s
604 642 628 622
545 529
435 384 406
Nov-21 Dec-21 Jan-22 Feb 22 Mar-22 Apr-22 May 22 Jun 22 hl22 Aug 22 Sep-22 Oct-22
Code !nspections Per Month
2508 251,6 2s94 2703
2352 2214 2264 2334 2262
1919
1141
1229
Nov-21 Dec 21 Jan-22 Feb 22 Mat-22 Ap. 22 May-22 Jun-22 Jul22 AUE 22 Sep-22 Oct-22
3000
2500
2000
1500
1000
500
0
This report reflects monthly data from October 22, zo22 - November 21, 2022
October 22,2021.- November 21.,2022 Code Cases by Category
4181 4009 4001
4500
4000
3500
3000
2s00
2000
1500
1000
500
0
Origin of Case
r Code Div. lnitiated Cases
r Cornplaint hitiated Cases
2027 2022
2t78
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7870
18
CRA
Case Opened
Monthly
3000
O Monthly Open Cases
2000
1500 a Total Opened Cases to
Date (Report initiated
September 2018)
1000
s00
0
Bayshore lmmokalee
This report reflects monthly data from october 22, 2022 - November 27,2022
2879
2500
October 22,2021. - November 21.,2022 Code Cases by Category
Animals
2%Accessory Use
3%
Site Development
26%
Signs
2%
Land Use
9%
Noise
L8%
Occupational Licensing
1%
Parking Enforcement
Right of Way
3%
Property Maintenance
t4%
Case Type Common Issues Associated with Case Type
Accessory Use - Fence permits, fence maantenance, canopies, shades, guesthouse renting etc.Animals - Prohibited animals, too many animals, etc.Commercial - Shopping carts
Land Use - Prohibited land use, roadside stands, outdoor storage, synthetic drugs, zoninq issues, etc.Noise - Construction, early morning landscaping, bar or club, outdoor bands, etc.
Nuisance Abatement - Litter, grass overgroMh, waste container pits, exotics, etc.
Occupational Licensing - Home occupation violations, no business tax receipts, kenneling. etc.
Parking Enforcement - Parking within public right-of-way, handicap parking, etc.
Property Maintenance - Unsanitary conditions, no running water, green pools, structure in disrepair, etc.
Protected Sp€cies - Gopher Tortoise, sea turtles lighting, bald eagles, etc.
Right of Way - Construction in the public right-of-way, damaged culverts, obstruction to public right-of-way, etc.Signs - No sign permits, illegal banners, illegal signs on private property, etc.
Site Development -Building permits, building alterations, land alterations, etc.
Temporary Land Use - Special events, garage sales, promotional events, sidewalk sales, etc.
Vegetation Requirements - Tree maintenance, sight distance triangle, tree pruning, land clearing, landflll, preserves, etc.Vehicles - License plates invalid, inoperable vehicles, grass parking, RV parking, other vehicle parking etc
This report reflects monthly data from october 22, 2022 - Novembet 21,2022
Vegetation Re,quirements
l
Vehicles
t3%
Nuisance Abatement
September 22,2021, - October 21.,2022 Code Cases by Category
Vehicles
Accessory Use
3%
Short term Rentals
t%
Land Use
gvo
Site Development
t6%
Noise
3%
Nuisance Abatement
25%
Signs
2%
Right of Way
4%
Parking Enforcement
Case Type Common Issues Associated with Case Type'
Property Maintenance
This report reflects monthly data from october 22,2022 - November 27,2022
VegetationRequirements Animals
1%
Occupational Licensing
Accessory Use - Fence permits, fence maintenance, canopies, shades, guesthouse renting etc.Animals - Prohibited animals, too many animals, etc.Commercial - Shopping carts
Land Use - Prohibited land use, roadside stands, outdoor storage, synthetic drugs, zoning issues, etc.Noise - Construction, early morning landsciping, bar or club, outdoor bands, etc.
Nuisance Abatement - Litter, grass overgroMh, waste container pits, exotics, etc.
Occupational Licensing - Home occupation violations, no business tax receipts, kenneling. etc.
Parking Enforcement - Parking within public right-of-way, handicap parking, etc.
Property Maintenance - Unsanitary conditions, no running water, green pools, structure in disrepair, etc.
Protected Species - Gopher Tortoise, sea turtles lighting, bald eagles, etc.
Right of Way - Construction in the public right-of-way, damaged culverts, obstruction to public right-of-way,tc.Signs - No sign permits, illegal banners, illegal signs on private property, etc.
Site Development -Building permits, building alterations, land alterations, etc.
Temporary |'"and Use - Special events, garage sales, promotional events, sidewalk sales, etc.
Vegetation Requirements - Tree maintenance, sight distance triangle, tree pruning, land clearing, landfill, preserves, etc.Vehicles - License plates invalid, inoperable vehicles, grass parking, RV parking, other vehicle parking etc.
August 22,202L - September 21.,2022 Code Cases by Category
Vegetat on Requirements.
vehicles 4% I
9%.
Accessory Use
2%Land Uset
Short-term Rentals Noise
Site Development
Signs
Nuisance Abatement
34%Right of Way
1%
Property Maintenance
9%Parking Enfo rcemen Occupational Licensing
Case Type Common Issues Associated with Case Type
Accessory Use - Fence permits, fence maintenance, canopies, shades, guesthouse renting etc.Animals - Prohibited animals, too many animals, etc.Commercial - Shopping carts
Land Use - Prohibated land use, roadside stands, outdoor storage, synthetac drugs, zoning issues, etc.Noise - Construction, early morning landscaping, bar or club, outdoor bands, etc.
Nuisance Abatement - Litter, grass overgroMh, wa*e container pits, exotics, etc.
Occupational Licensing - Home occupation violations, no business tax receiptsi kenneling. etc.
Parking Enforcement - Parking within public right-of-way, handicap parking, etc.
Property Maintenance - Unsanitary conditions, no running water, green pools, structure in disrepair, etc.
Protected Species - Gopher Tortoise, sea turtles lighting, bald eagles, etc.
Right of Way - Construction in the public right-of-way, damaged culverts, obstruction to public right-of-way,tc.Signs - No sign permits, illegal banners, illegal signs on private property, etc.
Site Development -Building permits, building alterations, land alterations, etc.
Temporary Land Use - Special events, garage sales, promotional events, sidewalk sales, etc.
Vegetation Requirements - Tree maintenance, sight distance triangle, tree pruning, land clearing, landflll, preserves, etc.Vehicles - License plates invalid, inoperable vehicles, grass parking, RV parking, other vehicle parking etc.
This report reflects monthly data from October 22, 2OZZ - November 21, 2022
Animals
7%
1 3 2 1 5 258677
4
11
19 20
10 9 9
9
6
10
5
2
10
0
5
10
15
20
0
10
20
30
40
50
60
70
80
May-22 Jun-22 Jul-22 Aug-22 Sep-22 Oct-22 RequestsBusiness DaysResponse Time -Letters of Availability
Requests Completed Minimum Average Maximum Requests Received
1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0 1.0
4.0
1.5
6.3
30.2
10.3
4.3
9
6 6
20
5
10
0
5
10
15
20
25
30
0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
May-22 Jun-22 Jul-22 Aug-22 Sep-22 Oct-22 RequestsBusiness DaysResponse Time -Utility Deviations
Requests Completed Sufficiency Review Time Substantive Review Time Requests Received
4 4 5
2
4
2
8
6
3
2
2
4
6
2
3
2
7
1
14
16
10 10
19
8
0
5
10
15
20
0
5
10
15
20
25
30
35
40
May-22 Jun-22 Jul-22 Aug-22 Sep-22 Oct-22 RequestsBusiness DaysResponse Time -FDEP Permits
Requests Completed Initial Review Time Revision Review Time Director Approval Time Requests Received
To: Zoning Division and Development Review Division Staff
From: Jaime Cook, Director, Development Review
Via: Mike Bosi, Director, Zoning
Date: August 5, 2022
RE: Insubstantial Changes to SDP (SDPI) and Plats (ICP) Lifespan After Approval
______________________________________________________________________________
LDC Section 10.02.03.H.2 states that SDPs only remain valid and in force for three years from
the date of the SDP approval letter unless actual construction is commenced. The LDC also
provides for two-year extensions, provided they are requested prior to the original expiration of
the SDP. It has already been determined that SDP Amendments are subject to this two-year
period, but the lifespan of an SDP Insubstantial Change (SDPI) is not referenced within the
LDC. Further, LDC Section 10.02.04.A.6 states that plats (PPLs) are valid for two years from
the date of approval of the PPL. The lifespan of an insubstantial change to the plat (ICP) is not
referenced within the LDC. On August 8, 2008, Bill Lorenz, issued a memo to staff clarifying
the two-year period applies to SDPIs as well as SDPs and SDPAs, and that period begins with
the date of the SDPI approval letter. This was determined to be consistent with the provisions of
the LDC is so far as the revision to an approved SDP by an SDPA or SDPI becomes the final
plan of record. This memo is intended to reiterate the 2008 determination that SDPIs are valid
for two years after approval and also provide for two-year approvals for ICPs, and that period
begins with the date of the ICP approval letter.