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DASAB Minutes 05/17/2022Mav 17. 2022 MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF COLLIERCOUNTY DOMESTIC ANIMAL SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD Naples, Florida, May 17,2O22 LET IT BE REMEMBERED that the Collier County Domestic Animal Services Advisory Board, in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 6:00 PM in REGULAR SESSION at the Domestic Animal Services Training Room, 7610 Davis Blvd., Naples, Florida, with the following members present: CHAIRMAN: Jim Rich (excused) VICE CHAIRMAN: Kelly Hyland SECRETARY: SueLaw Dr. Robert March Mary Baker (excused) Meredith McLean Cpl. Sherry Rego ALSO PRESENT: Marcy Perry, Director, Domestic Animal Services Kel lie Carro I l, Administrative Assistant, DAS Lt. Chris Goldhorn, CCSO animal-abuse unit Maria Matarazzo, Collier SNIP volunteer Michele Antonia, Anhinga Sanctuary LLC Al Schantzen Susie Mehas, Naples Cat Alliance I 3.A.3 Packet Pg. 17 Attachment: Animal Services Meeting Minutes (signed) - May 17, 2022 (22702 : Animal Services Advisory Board - June 21, 2022) May 17. 2022 Aay percons in need of the verbarim record of the neeling rnay requesl a copy ofthe audio recording from Domeslic Animal Services. I. Call to Order Acting Chair Hyland called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. II. Roll Call A quorum of five was established III. Approval of Agenda Dr. March msde o motion to opprove the May 17,2022, agenda. Ms, Mclean seconded it- The motion passed unonimously, 5-0. IV. Approval of Minutes A. February 15,2022 B. March 15,2022 C. April 5,2022 Dr. March made a molion to opprove the minulesfor February 15, March 15, ond April 5, 2022. Ms. Mclean seconded it. The motion passed unanimously, 5-0. v Leadership Report lMarcy Perry, DAS Directorl Ms. Perry provided some building updates:o The front adoption building looks beautiful. It's not fully open and contractors are still working on the front half, but she encouraged everyone to visit it.o I4 kennels in the adoption building are open and have dogs in them.o l6 other kennels still need doors. o The kennel doors were designed and made by the contractor and bring in more light.. Bowls on the doors were removed because that allowed dogs to squeeze out.o Inside doors were removed so there's more space for the dogs.o She thanked the volunteers, who are walking more dogs; they used to take care of30.. They have a lot ofstrays and more adoptable dogs will be moved in and available to walk and view; there are 46 viewable dogs no*,. . Once we get the second set ofkennels opened, they'll move more adoptable dogs into that building so they'll be available for the public and for volunteers to walk.. The laundry room used to have one washer and dryer. They now have three, so the wash can be done the same day without having dirty towels, beds and laundry lying around. . Thanks to Dr. March for reaching out to the Collier County Veterinary Society about the Community Cat Workshop and food drive. r A CommuniV Cats workshop specifically for community caretakers is in the works. o lt's difficult to get larger dogs spayed and neutered and Dr. March has helped. . Thank to guest sp€aker Lt. Chris Goldhorn for helping develop a better relationship with the CCSO and sharing information. o They're working on a Chameleon software-generated report that will consolidate their billing database with complaints and other information to share with law enforcement; it's still in the initial stages. . Dogs and cats that are spayed and neutered can go home the same day, except kittens. which keep coming in. Adopters want to adopt ASAP, so that's a huge improvement. 2 3.A.3 Packet Pg. 18 Attachment: Animal Services Meeting Minutes (signed) - May 17, 2022 (22702 : Animal Services Advisory Board - June 21, 2022) Mav 17. 2022 Ms. Perry also provided the following updates following questions by Acting Chair Hyland and Ms. Mclean: o New shelter: It's still in the design phase with ADG Architecturc and they'r€ going back and forth with the number of kennels needed; the design phas€ is the most important phase. . X-Ray machine: We just received a sole-source letter and we have the machine. The eleclrical is all hooked up and we're working with Patterson Electrical Contracting to get them here to do the installation. They'll schedule it when we are ready. r Vets/Vet Tech update: The positions are actively posted. There is an applicant for the yet-tech position and they're calling tomormw to schedule the interview. The vet who applied withdrew her application before we could make an offer. o Community Cat Workshop: She's working with Jan and Jim Rich to redesign the flyer. which she planned to present to him tonight. Jan is reviewing it now and they're working with SNIP Collier to find dates to hold the workshop. o Ordinance amendments: She's working with County Attomey's Office and they've already met twice. The bulk of it is completed and they're working on the penalty section so they can increase the level of enforcement for collections and increasing fines. Ms. Mcleen asked about the animal sanctuary receiving animals from DAS. ls there anything they can do to support them? Ms. Perry said Melissa's Animal Sanctuary is a 501(c)(3) non-profit and they take in a variety of animals. She won't say everything on the news is accurate, but they are one of DAS's animal-related organizations. All that means is that DAS has them perm itted as an organization. We have a DAS Ordinance that we require partners to follow to be p€rmitted through DAS. The Code Enforcement Department has a Land Development Code that they enforce so they are separate ordinances. They re<eived a complaint about the sanctuary by a neighbor. Code Enforcement went out and found a variety of violations under the Land Development Code. They're not DAS violations as much as Land Development Code violations, such as unpermitted fencing, some structures that housed animals that weren't permanenl and they are over the limit of animals allowed under the LDC. Code Enforcement is working with them to rectiry the violations. As an organization. they did have the ability to come here to pull animals from the DAS facility. They've been an organization with us for two years and haven't taken that many animals. ln two years. they took one pig. two pigeons, a handful of roosters and chickens. The total was l2 in two years They intend to purchase a roughly 20-acre property on Sanctuary Road that would allow them to continue to operate the way they're operating now. They've had at least one meeting with Code Enforcement to go over the new property to see if it would be conducive to operate there. Code Enforcement is trying to bring them into compliance. Ms. Hyland asked if the animals there had been well taken care of. Ms. Perry said the animals were fine. Ms. Ilyland said the neighbor is getting a lot of harassment publicly. She hoped it wouldn't deter others from calling about complaints ifthey do see an issue, such as a wellness check. Some calls arejustified, while others are not. New Business A. Collier County SherilPs OIIice - Lt. Chris Goldhorn - General Crimes Bureau 3 vI. 3.A.3 Packet Pg. 19 Attachment: Animal Services Meeting Minutes (signed) - May 17, 2022 (22702 : Animal Services Advisory Board - June 21, 2022) M,av 17. 2022 Lt. Goldhorn presented a PowerPoint presentation and the following points were made: o He's a lifetime animal lover. he's adopted from DAS and HSN and is a licensed attorney. o The CCSO has been investigating animal cruelty cases for years. o A year ago, Sheriff Rambosk asked him to assemble a professional group of detectives to work on animal abuse, create better working relationships with outside agencies and to get more advanced training. . The group's mission is to maximize resources to investigate negligence and animal cruelty. as well as conduct outreach and education. . Other CCSO units are involved, such as ViceNarcotics, Intelligence, Patrol, Agriculture, Crime Prevention, Media Relations, Legal. CSl, Real-Time Operations. . They recently hired former prosecutor Dave Scuderi for their legal team to handle seizures, and Dr. Ruth Eisele, a vet who retired from Harborside, to handle crime scenes. . Vice is accustomed to dog and cockfighting and can help with undercover work. while the Intelligence Bureau helps them compile intelligence for a case. . Patrol deputies and animal control omcers wercn't always on the same page in terms of what their responsibilities werc, so they'rr impmving that.. He and Marcy communicate nearly daily. o Aviation is very useful for flyovers at different properties.. Assistant State Attomey Laura Farrell is assigned to the unit.o The group works with other agencies. including the state Department of Agriculture. ASPCA and Code Enforcement, and Lee and Hendry counties.. They've sent several animals to UF and worked with their science department for necropsies and other forensic work for the Department ofAg and Code En[orcement. . They use a three-prong approach: Education, Public Awareness and Enforcement.o Education involves what to look for at crime scenes and what to identify.. They will have advanced training with the ASPCA in July that will include equine and farm animals. . They use social media to expand public awareness. agency events and have made presentations at Leadership Collier and other groups to pass on the knowledge.. They plan on doing more work in Immokalee. o Enforcement is the main prong. There are cases they are working on to assist others and cases they might not handle and will give to DAS. They make sure none slip through the cracks. . They can view DAS reports for history to determine if a case could be criminal. not iust civil. o The Real-Time Crime Center staff is trained to do keyword searches on domestic violence calls. bar fights and others to find animal control issues or negligence to ensure cases ar€ labeled correctly and get assigned to the right unit.. They've done multi-agency operations and plan to use DAS and outside partners more. Animal Crueltr Case Referrals: . A deputy is dispatched to the scene to assess the scene. . A citizen files a report online or with a deputy or it could be an anonymous tip or a DAS referral. . The report goes to a detective sergeant. who is in charge ofthe group. It's then reviewed and assigned to a detective/deputy. 3.A.3 Packet Pg. 20 Attachment: Animal Services Meeting Minutes (signed) - May 17, 2022 (22702 : Animal Services Advisory Board - June 21, 2022) Mzy 17. 2022 . Marcy has referred several cases to CCSO. Prevention: They do social media posts and interviews to show there are consequences for animal cruelty and neglect cases and can result in an arrest- They do public awar€ness campaigns, canvassing areas and passing out flyers or dog bowls at community events. There are Facebook groups that are a hotbed of information and they plan to work with them. They plan to attend more community events. Other ooints made: o CCSO will continue to investigate misdemeanor and felony cases. o DAS and CCSO's lines of response are working to place animals to ensure all options are exhausted. . Cruelty cases include overloading, overdriving and tormenting. . Agetravated cases include dog fights or failure to act, infliction of pain or suffering. . Enclosures and the lack of sustenance or shelter indicate signs ofabuse. o One issue may not be neglect, but a totality of circumstances can build a neglect or cruelty case, such as the duration or f,requency of food or water. o They often need a veterinary forensic report to prove a case in court, which can sometimes be a challenge. Medical evaluations or necropsies are conducted to build a solid case. . They don't want to act on assumptions because a dog may be emaciated. but something else could be going on. o Concemed citizens can call their tips line or DAS. . Documentation from DAS can prove an alleged violator was on notice.o When they busted an animal-abuse case involving dog fighting, the ASPCA came to determine whether the dogs were adoptable; many were pregnant and they ended up with 40 dogs. . Some cases go to civil court and end with a seizure. o The CCSO publicizes high-profile cases to show there are consequences. o Some cases can be difficult to prove and animal lovers may not be satisfied with the sentence- . They have restarted the Cell Dog Program, which was halted due to COVID, making it difficult to place puppies in dog-fighting cases. o They're working on an emu case now; it may have been abducted from its Golden Gate Estates home. . They share events with DAS and HSN and work together on social media. o They can't post all information initially due to rules of evidence.o They set up a special email for suggestions,comments,@coll iersheriff-.ors Ms. Mehas asked about the one-month jail sentence, calling it ludicrous. She he didn't get enough jail time. Lt. Goldhorn agreed. They build the cases and put the work in and sometimes are disappointed in the outcome. Ms. Mehas asked if they needed stronger laws. Lt. Goldhorn said yes, but that wasn't the problem in that case. It was the burden of proof and overcoming objections. Sometimes they don't have enough and may have to plead it out rather than lose it completely. ) 3.A.3 Packet Pg. 21 Attachment: Animal Services Meeting Minutes (signed) - May 17, 2022 (22702 : Animal Services Advisory Board - June 21, 2022) May 17. 2O22 Ms. Mehas asked if the man with Bear is still in jail. Lt. Goldhorn said he's in jail awaiting trial. He's been barred from owning animals and has a trespass waming and can't go back in the house. The CCSO has to ensure arrestees abide by those restrictions during pretrial release. Audience question: What's going on with the tiger incident at Naples Zoo? Lt. Goldhorn said their legal attomeys and FWC are working on it. Any changes in the law must come from the state level. Ms. Law asked if complaints can be anonymous and noted that DAS complaints can't be anonymous. Acting Chair Hyland said it can be anonymous if it goes through a County Commissioner. Ms. Law said that's a lengthy procedure. Acting Chair Hyland said they can call or send an email to a commissioner and it's an easy process. The commissioner sends it to DAS. Ms. Law said you have to follow up and she never got feedback. Acting Chair Hyland said it depends on the commissioner. Lt. Goldhorn said that in the past. they've been able to arrest people based on paraphemalia that indicates cockfighting or dog fighting, but new caselaw says they need more evidence. For example, they can't make a cockfighting case without an injured animal. Audience: It's commendable that agencies communicate and coordinate. ls there a list ofoffenders that can be used between organizations that DAS can access for adoptions? Lt. Goldhorn said there are some rules they must abide by involving keeping lists oflicially, or unofficially. But they definitely do share information. Ms. Mehas said the Naples Cat Alliance keeps a Do-Not-Adopt list. Ms. Perry said they check the CCSO system before they allow animals to be adopted and are usually aware ofoffenders. Acting Chair Hyland said what would have been the harshest sentence the man with the dogs in the garage could have received? Lt. Goldhorn said five years in state prison. Ms. Mehas noted that three of the dogs had to be euthanized. What more evidence would they have needed? Lt. Goldhorn said he'd have to speak to the prosecutor. You always can call the State Attomey's Office to ask what evidence would have been needed and ask why the sentence was so short. Audience: Are inmates or people on work release allowed to help animals at DAS? Cpl. Rego said that was allowed until COVID began. Ms. Perry said it also depends on pending charges. A DUI would be OK. Lt Goldhorn said they have a Classifications Department in thejail. They do a psych analysis on inmates to determine what they can do - whether they're a flight risk. whether they can go outdoors for recreation, if ifthey can be a trustee. etc. Ms. Mehas said she was at a home and saw many rows with one rooster in each. She told the homeowner it was odd and he said they were fighting roosters. His son in Miami has cockfights. She called to report it and CCSO did follow up. She also saw a 6 3.A.3 Packet Pg. 22 Attachment: Animal Services Meeting Minutes (signed) - May 17, 2022 (22702 : Animal Services Advisory Board - June 21, 2022) Mav 17 2O)2 horse case and called the CCSO after pouring water in the trough. Lt. Goldhorn said theyjust spent a tremendous amount of time on a horse case. 'fhey're dilTicult because they're in remote areas with no witnesses. There are some technological advances they can use now to ID suspects. Ms, Mehas said if people see things. but there's nothing happening ar the time. is that enough? For example. 25 dog houses. equipment and nothing going on. Lt. Goldhorn said it can be reported and it would be reviewed by at least six people. The patrol sergeant will r€view it, then an investigation sergeant, then ir goes to a detective for review. It's also going to be reviewed by the Reconds Departnent and the Real-Time Crime Center and victim advocates. At least six people will review it. Ms. Mehas said she doesn't want to be told to call onll'when it's happening. Lt, Goldhorn said lou can file a rcport online. bv phone or request a deputy come to vour homc. Ms. Law said that years ago. she knew someone rvho was afraid to put up cameras to record eeek*gh+ing dogfighting. lt was a long process and that person wanted to ensure there was enough evidence. They were told to call only when they saw it happening. She was frustrated because they could be gone by the tirne she explained to another person whal was going on all over again. Lt. Goldhorn said that doesn't happen anymore. They've used aviation and can use drones. There are legalities and rights to privacy. But ilwe havc reason to believe an animal is in imminent harm or dislress or imminenl death. we can act immediatel-v-. Deputies put a lot of work into their cases to have them prosecuted. so it's frustrating ifthey can't get it prosecuted. We trust our Stale Attomey. Ilthere's something she can do. she will. The altomey assigned to our group. Laura Farrell. is tremendous. She does evervthins she can within the confines of the law. B. Advisory Board - Pet Retail Position Acting Chair Hyland said that position was lough to fill and no one applied. Since then. they tried to make it more of an open position. Marcy Perry made a request to the BCC to make it an at-large position and the BCC approved it. Michele Antonia. are you still interested in the position? Ms. Antonia said she was. Acting Chair Hyland asked her to tell evervone a bit about herself Ms. Atrtonia said she's worked in animal rescue for 20 1-ears. moved to this area in 1980 and began teaching at an Immokalee school. She started an animal rescue in 1980. From 1998. when she started trapping cats big time. to 2002. she was privatel), funded. In 2002. it got so big thar she converted it to a 501(c) (3) non-profit. When she started. she lived in Colden Gate Ciw and had cages on her lanai. where trees obscured it so no one could see. She and her family then bought five acres on Sanctuary Road and she's operated there since 2002. a 2%-acre cat sanctuary with l2 enclosures. Then she bought the house across the street. She leamed the Science Diet Pet First Aid Program a lew times. did Red Cross Pet First Aid trainine. Humane Society of the U.S. disaster training and certified training in Collier County. She served on the DASAB several years ago fbr 6% years and worked to get the laws change to make TNR legal. That took about six vears. [t's 1 3.A.3 Packet Pg. 23 Attachment: Animal Services Meeting Minutes (signed) - May 17, 2022 (22702 : Animal Services Advisory Board - June 21, 2022) Mav 17. 2O22 evolved into something more amazing than they thought it would be. Before that, you legally couldn't do it. She worked for Collier County public schools for over 35 years as a teacher in middle school and also taught adult education and English as a Second Language. Her last position was as an advisor to literacy programs at the technical college. She also leamed Spanish. Ms. Mehas noted that whenever she called her for help, she never said no. Acting Chair Hyland made a motion to recommend and approve Ms. Antonia for the vacant at-large position pending approval from the BCC. Ms. Mclean asked ifthey needed to post the position after the BCC changed the description. Ms. Perry said it already was posted. The recommendation was that we could go on the applications we already received. Acting Chair l{yland said the recommendation was as long as there was enough time between that meeting and now. Enough time has elapsed since it was posted so they can fill it. Acling Chair Hyland made o molion to recommend and approve Michele Antonia for lhe ol-large position. Second by Dr. Morch. The motion passed unanimously, 5-4. VII. Public Conments Acting Chair Hyland said anyone who wants to speak gets thr€e minutes. She knows that's not a lot of time. but please feel free any time after the meeting to reach out to anyone on the Board or Marcy. so things don't end with your comment here. We can try to d;scuss it and do what we need to resolve it because we do hear what you are saying up here. With just three minutes, with some ofthe situations, obviously, they can't be resolved in one night, Ms. Matarazzo said she is concemed about the cat population. She's a 3O-year resident who lives with her family and three fur babies. She had no idea there were that many feral cats here. She retired from teaching after 45 years and decided to volunteer and help with the cat population, so she reached out to'l'om at SN[P Collier. She and a TNR partner work in Bayshore doing that, feeding and trapping cats that are undernourished and sick. Since October, they've trapped 60 cats for TNR. We hold a few of them. She has one at her house that won't let her touch her, but she'll come around. Some live under trailers. One of the trailers is being condemned any day now and the cals have to go. All are fixed. except one momma and three babies. They're healthy and flufr. She doesn't know what to do with the baby kittens. Developers are snapping up the properties in Bayshore. We were crying this moming. What can we do with these babies? About 25 are left between two trailers. Can anyone help us? Tom has been helping with spaying and neutering. Ifshe can find anyone to help, she found a donor who will give $100 per cat and we will help feed them. We can't get some cats out fiom under trailers. She's been on her belly trying to get them out. It's not a very safe area The cats are scared of humans. The mom comes. Someone must be dumphg cats there. We found two more today that were not ear-tipped. Acting Chair Hyland said to speak to her after thc nrceting to follo* up. Ms. Antonia said if you wanted to report someone. you can do it anonymously by calling or 8 3.A.3 Packet Pg. 24 Attachment: Animal Services Meeting Minutes (signed) - May 17, 2022 (22702 : Animal Services Advisory Board - June 21, 2022) May 17. 2022 emailing a commissioner. Emailing is a public record and who made phone calls can be made public through a records request. The Do-Not-Adopt list is an excellent thing, but if somebody really wants an animal, they'll send somebody else in to adopt the animal and give it to them. Acting Chair Hyland said she would speak to her afterward. She has some information on that. Mr. Schantzen said he's been talking with Marcy about the Do-Not-Adopt list and they should be reviewing it against other sunounding counties. They should merge the lists. They need to take a look at how these people operate because people find ways around it and animals suffer. [t's a useful tool to protect the innocent animals. People are allowed to adopt multiple dogs within a year without any full investigation into what really happened. He's concemed they were surrendered in neighboring counties. DAS rules say the only way they get on their Do-Not-Adopt list is if they directly retum them to DAS. They need to cross check where the dogs went, whether they were surrendered elsewhere. They can use microchip checks or see ifother household members adopted by cross-checking by name or address. Maybe there's a national or state Do-Not-Adopt list. Acting Chair Hyland thanked him for speaking. Acting Chair Hyland said she received an email from a volunteer. Patty'feulet. u'ho couldn't be here tonight and she asked her to read it. Collier Cormty is the wealthiest county in Southwest Florida. There are currently 500 animals at the Domestic Animal Services shelter waiting to be processed, cared for, cleaned up after, fed and medicated, when needed. Five Animal Care Specialists have been hired. It will take Collier County HR at least a month or more to process them. If approved, it will take another three months to train them. DAS has been grossly understaffed for too long. This problem does not reflect on the current management and staff. They are working above and beyond to keep up their responsibilities as stray dogs and mamas with kittens keep pouring in. She asks the Advisory Board to consider adding a new position, a maintenance handyman position. She was told the County would have to eliminate one of the ACS positions in order for this to happen. ACSs are educated and experienced to tend to animals in a timely fashion, the necessary follow-ups. The shelter not only shelters animals, but provides housing for the sick, elderly and newboms, just like a hospital. They require more, in general. Here is what a full-time maintenance handyman staffer could accomplish daily: r Clean and organize the sally port o Clean all animal-waste containers o Replenish all cleaning tools and cleaning liquids o Clean and organize supplies o Unload and distribute donations . Open deliveries and stock inventory, where designaled . Load washers and dryers . Fold towels, sheets, bedspreads, etc. o Wash dog and cat bowls. Replenish and stack items required for each building o Check for inventory shortages o Place work orders for general fixes (plumbing, electric) or fx intemally 9 3.A.3 Packet Pg. 25 Attachment: Animal Services Meeting Minutes (signed) - May 17, 2022 (22702 : Animal Services Advisory Board - June 21, 2022) May 17. 2022 Remove all containers of feces and dirty laundry Clean and organize Adoption, Stray, Isolation, Cat Colony and lobby buildings Clean out building gutters Empty yard poop containers Rake and sanitize yards and maintain clean yards. Tend to bams, when used. She's sure the DAS staff could add a lot more to this list and asked that the DAS Advisory Board collaborate with Marcy to present something to Collier Cormty Commissioners so they could find this position. Ms. Perry said Patty brought that up to DAS's Animal Services Coordinator. All these duties fall under the Animal Specialist positions. We are in the process of trying to get additional staffing for the next budget year and do believe that is going to happen. We're pursuing more ACSs, not creating a position that doesn't exist. We have that level ofmaintenance support from the facilities department, such as changing light bulbs. Right now, the value is on bettering animals' care while they're here. So, we are in the process of recruiting, trying to get approval for additional Animal Care Specialists and Animal Control Officers. Acting Chair Hyland said this is a good list. ls there a way a staff member could focus on that, so one person is on top ofthat and it's always taken care o{? Ms. Perry said absolutely. but duties would be divvied out. She explained the differtnce between the duties ofvet techs and ACSs. Ms. Mclean asked if there was a facilities person who does some of those duties. Ms. Perry said there is a department, Facilities, not a person. VIII. Advisory Board Member Commedts Ms. Law asked if public records requests had to be in writing. Ms. Perry said they do not. Ms. Law said it would be helpful if they were. She said after DAS went to a home, the homeowner was told that she'd reported her. She got harassed. She could be shot. Could there be a form to flll out? Acting Chair Hyland said public records requests fall under state law, Chapter I19. They must follow the law. Ms. Law noted that DAS was sending small dogs up to Gulf Coast Humane Society when many people in Collier County want to adopt small dogs from DAS. Ms. Perry said they reach out to other partners, as well. They had nine smalldogs here in more than one month and they haven't found a home. so they have to look at additional resources to ensure animals are notjust sitting here. Ms. Lsw asked ifthey could be put in foster car€. She hadn't seen them on the website. Ms. Perry said they're on the website. They reserve foster homes for sick dogs. Cpl. Rego said anyone can call the CCSO or 9l I and file an anonymous complaint. Deputies won't know who reported it and will respond to the call. Ifyou ask fora report, we give you a report. She said deputies work hard for animals. Ifthere's something they need, they can call the non-emergency number. If it's not an emergency, it would be lower on the priority list. Lt Goldhorn said there's a big difference between an anonymous tip and probable cause and evidence to support a case. A lot of times, they need more to corroborate a tip, to substantiate it. and move a case forward. They might need a knock-and-talk a flyover, to speak to a neighbor or to make a video. Cpl. Rego said they must have a legal, lawful reason to go on a prop€rty. If they deny us. l0 a a o a (a a 3.A.3 Packet Pg. 26 Attachment: Animal Services Meeting Minutes (signed) - May 17, 2022 (22702 : Animal Services Advisory Board - June 21, 2022) IX. May 17. 2O22 there's nothing we can do. Ms. Law noted that everyone has rights. Lt. Goldhorn said they can understand their frustration. Ms. Mclean thanked the CCSO and DAS for their work, noting they'd made significant strides over the years. Dr. March praised Lt. Goldhom's presentation and said DAS is doing a good job. We've done close to 40 big-dog spays in the past five weeks. Are others doing them? Ms. Perry said the team does some. Most are under 40 pounds. SNIP Collier will do some. but they mainly do cats. Dr. March said he's still working with the Collier County Veterinary Society to get more people to help. Lt. Goldhorn said the CCSO is having trouble finding a certified forensic vet to build documentation for their cases. We're looking at sending Dr. Eisele through the UF vet progam. Ms. Mcf,ean said one of HSN'S vets wants to go through that program, as well. Acting Chair Hyland thanked Lt. Goldhom for attending the meeting and the really good presentation. She invited him to retum with updates. She noted that the improvements in the back are really nice and urged everyone to tour the shelter. Adjourn Next meeting: June 21, 6 p.m. Acting Chair Hylond mtde a motion to adjourn- Ms Mclean seconded iL The motion passed unonimously, 5-0. There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was concludedat 7:28 p.m. Collier County Animal Sen'ices Chai Rich These minutes were approved by the Committgr/Chairman on as presented ..................."_,or as amended L/6-)t-)), (check one) ll 3.A.3 Packet Pg. 27 Attachment: Animal Services Meeting Minutes (signed) - May 17, 2022 (22702 : Animal Services Advisory Board - June 21, 2022)