CAC Minutes 01/13/2022 January 13. 2022
MINUTES OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING
Naples, Florida, January 13, 2022
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, the Collier County Coastal Advisory Committee, in and for
the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 1:00 P.M. in
REGULAR SESSION at Administrative Building "F," 3rd Floor, Collier County
Government Complex, Naples, Florida, with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN: David Trecker
VICE CHAIRMAN: Joseph Burke
Steve Koziar
Thomas McCann (via phone)
Jim Burke
Robert Raymond
Erik Brechnitz
Robert Roth
Raymond Christman
ALSO PRESENT: Andy Miller, Principal Project Manager
Colleen Greene, Assistant County Attorney
Farron Bevard, Operations Analyst
Chris Johnson. Office of Management & Budget
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Meeting Agenda and Notice
Coastal Advisory Committee (CAC)
Thursday, January 13, 2022– 1:00 p.m.
Collier County Board Chambers
Collier County Government Center
3299 Tamiami Trail East, Third Floor, Naples, FL
Sunshine Law on Agenda Questions
2022 CAC MEETING DATES
I. Call to Order
II. Pledge of Allegiance
III. Roll Call
IV. Changes and Approval of Agenda
V. Public Comments
VI. Approval of CAC Minutes
December 9, 2021
VII. Staff Reports
Extended Revenue Report
VIII. New Business
1. Update on FY2022 Beach Renourishment Truck Haul Project
2. Update on FY2022 Wiggins Pass & Doctors Pass Dredge Project
3. Update on USACE Collier CSRM
4. Recommendation to authorize the expenditure of $15,704.00 to Grippo Pavement Maintenance, Inc. under
Contract No. 21-7837
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IX. Old Business
X. Announcements
XI. Committee Member Discussion
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XII. Next Meeting Date/Location
February 10, 2022 at 1:00 p.m.
XIII. Adjournment
All interested parties are invited to attend, and to register to speak and to submit their objections, if any, in
writing, to the board prior to the meeting if applicable.
For more information, please contact Andrew Miller at (239) 252-2922.
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are entitled, at no cost to you, to the provision of certain assistance. Please contact the Collier County Facilities
Management Department located at 3301 East Tamiami Trail, Naples, FL 34112, (239) 252-8380.
Public comments will be limited to 3 minutes unless the Chairman grants permission for additional time.
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Department.
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Any persons in need of the verbatim record of the meeting may request a copy of the video recording
from the Collier County Communications and Customer Relations Department or view online.
I. Call to Order
Chairman Trecker called the meeting to order at 1 p.m.
II. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
III. Roll Call
Roll call was taken and a quorum of eight was established.
Mr. Koziar moved to allow Mr. McCann to participate in the meeting telephonically due to
extraordinary circumstances. The motion was seconded and carried unanimously, 7-0;Mr.
McCann abstained.
IV. Changes and Approval of Agenda
Vice Chair Burke moved to approve the agenda. Second by Mr. Koziar. Carried unanimously, 8-
0.
V. Public Comments
None
VI. Approval of CAC Minutes
Dec.9,2021
Vice Chair Burke moved to approve the minutes of the Dec. 9,2021, with the following
change:Joseph Burke participated remotely at the last board meeting, not Jim Burke.
Second by Mr. Koziar. Carried unanimously, 8-0.
VII. Staff Reports
1. Extended Revenue Report
The Committee revieNNed the"FY_'? TDT Collections Revenue Report"dated Dec. 31, 2021.
Chris Johnson, from the Office of Management and Budget(OMB). gave a report on the FY22
numbers:
• Budgeted collections were at $2.8 million, but today they're at $5.1 million, 82.5%over
budgeted expected actuals to date.
• In November, $2.25 million was expected; and December, $2.9 million in TDT collections.
• Compared with years past. it's 83.3% for the month of December over FY21 collections.
89.78 for November and 86.08%overall from FY21.
• Overall, it's 48.8%above FY20 and 137.26%above FY19.
During Committee discussion, it was noted:
• Collier Count) is above budgeted collections and it's not expected to let up any time soon.
• The overage for the 195 Fund at the close of FY21 was not reflected as a rollover;this
reflects just the current year's revenues.
• There was a forecasted revenue. but actual revenues beat the forecast by$2.4 million and
beat the budget by over$4 million.
• The difference between the forecasted amount and the actual numbers will become part of
the carry forward going into programing in the next budget cycle in February or March.
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• Those monies will be available to budget in the FY23 budget.
• Fund balances for beach park facilities and beach renourishment can he provided to the
committee in the future.
During a discussion about interfund transfers with Budget Director Ed Finn,the
following points were made:
• There is a dedicated component of the TDC dedicated toward the Sports Complex,
about 7/10ths of the fifth penny.
• There is a nominal surplus above and beyond the debt that penny is pledged
against.
• That delta will be available to repay that almost$9-to $10 million loan out of the
195 Fund.
• The timing is not clear until the Sports Complex's final phase, when we'll come
up with a program to repay that.
• The 7/10ths is pledged to the Sports Complex so that money isn't available for use
now for renourishment projects.
• $52 million is programed in the five-year plan for the Army Corps project.
• $30 million represents reserves in the program.
• Those program funds are independent of the$9 million-$10 million that was
advanced.
• This is what is accounted for:the$9 million is not coming back.
• The five-year beach renourishment spends in the prior period were $13 million.
• This is the same amount of funding for beach renourishment as what was spent in
the past five years, plus$30 million in reserves, plus$53 million allotted for the
Corps' project, so the program is sufficiently funded.
• The$9 million, while desirable to get back, is not a critical part of the program.
• There are many water issues, and the county needs to be aware of the possibility
that things may not be status quo in the next five years.
VIII. New Business
1. Update on the FY2022 Beach Renourishment Truck-Haul Project
Mr. Miller presented the "2022 Beach Renourishment Truck Haul Project Map" for
informational purposes and provided the following update:
• The project is down to 24,000 tons of sand yet to come from the mine;the entire project
was about 230.000 tons, so it's down to the last 10%of the project.
• Naples Beach was finished before Thanksgiving.
• Vanderbilt Beach was completed before Christmas.
• Work picked up after the New Year holiday and hauling should finish by Thursday or
Friday, when it will be ready for the punch list.
During committee discussion,the following points were noted:
• There was a discrepancy between what was planned versus implemented; less was placed
on the Naples Beach.
• The original design was based on old data from last January. Before it started,the
engineer surveyed immediate conditions and instead of 268.000 tons set forth in the
original design. the project was whittled down to 230,000 tons.
• On Naples Beach, it decreased from 105,000 tons to about 86,000 tons.
• Vanderbilt Beach was originally 135,000 tons and was reduced to 118.000 tons.
• They borrowed 2,000 tons from Vanderbilt Beach for Naples Beach. so Vanderbilt went
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down to 116,000 tons.
• Pelican Bay Beach still received 30,000 tons of sand.
• In volume versus weight,the conversion for a cubic yard is 1.5 tons.
• This was larger than the 2020 truck haul and was the largest truck haul since 2013.
• This came within the normal beach renourishment cycle. four to five years.
• The work could not have been completed without teamwork by City Council and traffic
control by Naples Police.
2. Update on FY2022 Wiggins Pass& Doctors Pass Dredge Project
Mr. Miller said he had a pre-construction meeting with the agencies—FDEP, Army Corps of
Engineers, Fish & Wildlife, the contractor—and county staff last Tuesday. He reported that:
• They plan to start the Wiggins Pass dredging next week, mid-week.
• 65,000 cubic yards of sand will be removed from Wiggins Pass.
• Two-thirds of that will be placed on Barefoot Beach and one-third will go to the State
Park beach.
• A land-use agreement with the state park was worked out with the BCC this week.
• The state was very excited to get the sand.
• The project is expected to take about one month. depending on the weather and
production of the dredge.
• Doctors Pass dredging will follow that, with 25,000 yards of sand taken out and put on
Lowdermilk Park Beach; it will take a little longer to get in the water and inlet so it
should extend the time period between the major dredges.
During Committee discussion,the following was noted:
• The contract was just under$2 million but was about$2.2 million with staff and design.
• Doctor's Pass should take two to three weeks and should be finished by mid-April.
• The major dredging cycle takes place every four to five years but is shorter for Wiggins
Pass due to shoaling problems.
• There was an interim dredge of 17,000 cubic yards, but nature put a lot of sand in the
inlet to the point where people were having trouble getting in and out.even during high
tide. The Wiggins Pass process was accelerated because it was a much-needed dredging.
3. Update on USACE Collier CSRM
Mr. Miller said at the last minute,just before the chiefs report was sent to Congress for the
appropriation,the Army Corps of Engineers realized that the cost of materials(concrete, steel
and all construction materials)had risen so much that they had significant concerns about the
projected benefit-cost ratio, particularly the cost side. Before the document went to the chief,
they asked the project development team to rerun the numbers. There was so little time between
that point and when the report was due that the project development team asked headquarters for
an extension of money and time to do a thorough re-analysis of the report.
It's still being reviewed by headquarters. Before Christmas, he asked for the status.On Dec.21,
he was told that the exemption request for additional time and funding is was being reviewed by
the Policy Review Team. They've reviewed it and will soon provide comments. Following the
resolution of comments, the waiver request package will be routed for review and signature by
headquarters and then the district commander will brief a Senior Leader Panel. Following a
favorable briefing and signature. the package will be forwarded to the Assistant Secretary of the
Army for review and signature. If approved,we will need to develop a scope, schedule and
project management plan and coordinate a feasibility cost-sharing agreement for this effort.The
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effort will be a 21/2-year time extension and a$2.5 million cost increase. The county is now
awaiting comments on the waiver request.
During Committee discussion,the following was noted:
• The original feasibility study plan included seawalls, surge gates at Wiggins and Doctor's
Passes,critical structure protection, major improvements to beaches and dunes,and costs
for concrete and steel structures.
• In the end, the project development team recommended reducing the scope to beach only
and some minor critical infrastructure protection.
• The bad news is if the project moves forward, it will be delayed for about two years.
• The good news is the bitter complaints (environmentalists and the advisory committee)
about the original feasibility study will be reduced if the recommended plan. as modified.
goes forward.
• The environmentalists were bitterly opposed to including hardening and that won't be in
the modified plan.
• The Army Corps is recommending minimizing what structures to floodproof.
• The result is a smaller project. less expensive, limited in scope and more in line with what
the community was looking for.
• The Army Corps is looking at it from the perspective of the value of federal flood
protection insurance, so their exposure is static. (As the cost of materials escalate, its
exposure stays the same.)
• The five-year projected amount of the 10-year plan is $52.6 million. The county planned
$14.3 million and in previous five years,the county spent $13 million. These funds are
allocated for FY2022-26.
• Mr. Miller will provide the CAC with the amount currently in the fund at next month's
meeting.
A discussion ensued:
Mr. Christman noted that the county is now looking at a downsized project that has been
delayed 21/2 years and the county would be engaged with other competitive projects
nationwide. Is the county on track with setting aside tens of millions of funds for this
purpose?If we are or have, and given our projections about our own funding increasing,
should we be looking at ways to reallocate that money in the years ahead?Are there ways
we should consider spending funding that haven't been considered to address water
quality and other important water and beach issues?
• Chairman Trecker said it's important to realize there is no immediate commitment for
expenditures while the Army Corps reviews the waiver request.
• Mr.Christman said that reasonable people could ask why the county is sitting on tens of
millions of dollars for a project that may not happen when there are other significant,
water-related needs that should be attended to in the more-immediate term.
• Mr. Miller agreed. noting the project could die and it's 50-50 whether it will move
forward. He said the Army Corps is not the only one in the resiliency game and said
Collier County is a vulnerable community relative to sea-level rise and storm surge so
that money could potentially be used for the county's own resiliency efforts,or something
better suited for the wishes of the community.
• Chairman Trecker noted that Collier County ranked 9th in the nation at a risk for$43
billion in recost money for storm surges and destructive hurricanes. He agreed the county
was vulnerable and the county should consider that.
• Mr. Brechnitz asked if deciding where the money would go was the responsibility of the
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TDC and BCC, not CAC.
• Mr. Miller said it would be up to the BCC, as well as CAC.
• Vice Chair Burke said we're ignoring the likelihood of a catastrophic event here. We
have an opportunity to take advantage of this and should engage with the Army Corps to
understand what the options from a flood-control standpoint. If we eliminated the
hardened structures, we haven't solved anything. We prevented high-velocity erosion at
the beach, but back-bay and flooding of the waterways will occur. I don't think we've
accurately presented the risk to the public. If you look at the NOAH models, it does not
paint a good picture for the City of Naples.
• Mr. Roth said the models have been consistently wrong for two decades.
• Vice Chair Burke agreed they have been wrong since Collier County hasn't been hit by
a straight-on event. He's taking sea-level rise out of the equation. Risks are there and the
consequences are catastrophic, but he wasn't sure how likely the event is and we don't
have a good way of accurately measuring the likelihood.
• Chairman Trecker noted that it's important to remember that the government will pay
for a large part of it and that shouldn't be ignored.
• Mr. Christman said we don't want to discourage working with the Army Corps of
Engineers on a program that could get funded and receive broad support of the
community. He noted that it's being delayed two to three years. so there's more
uncertainty now. The county is sitting on a growing pot of money that we were going to
allocate as matching funds and our TDC tax revenues continue to grow. He suggested
there could be some resilience-related efforts the county could be taking that would be
important to do until it's known whether the federal program is possible.
• Chairman Trecker said the decision is only months away,this all may die. so we should
wait for a decision.
• Mr. Christman asked for a report at the next meeting on how much money has already
been collected and set aside for this purpose.
• Vice Chair Burke asked if there was a backup plan if the Army Corps bailed out.
• Mr. Miller said there was no Plan B, but the committee could explore resiliency
projections and use the Corps' study for guidance to choose what's practical and feasible.
• Mr. McCann questioned the decision-making process,noting that the BCC's decision on
dedicating tens of millions of dollars to the project is so far down the line, which he called
odd.
• Chairman Trecker said the timing will depend on an agreement from the stakeholders in
the final engineering plan,which is several years from now. He noted Congress still must
approve it and allocate money.Collier County already won the competitive battle against
other communities that wanted the money. If it moves forward, there are many more steps
and about three years before the final design and funding numbers.
4. Recommendation to authorize the expenditure of$15,704.00 to Grippo Pavement
Maintenance, Inc. under Contract No. 21-7837
Mr. Miller said the county had owned a parcel of land, a half-acre at the north end on the east
side of S.S.Jolley Bridge. that's historically been used by private construction firms and the
county for deep-water access,dredge projects. off-loading and loading onto barges and staging
of vessels, including dredges. Coastal Zone came into possession of this parcel within the last
year. It's one of the only sites within the county that's publicly owned that has deep-water
access and is available to do those activities.This item would put a layer of#57 Stone,a
crushed-stone aggregate,on the area to get suitable stabilization and suitable grade to make the
site operate more efficiently—and to clean it up.
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The recommendation is to authorize the expenditure of$15,704 to Grippo Pavement
Maintenance Inc., under Contract No. 21-7837, for the purchase of the aggregate stone to
stabilize the county owned barge loading site at S.S. Jolley Bridge and make a finding that this
expenditure promotes tourism.
Chairman Trecker asked how the county knows this quote will be adequate and if it's been
subject to engineering approval.
Mr. Miller said the county took the available land. added six inches of#57 Stone, calculated the
amount and asked for quotes from Grippo and others.Grippo's was the lowest quote.
Mr. Roth said he drives by the site every day and asked the county to consider the aesthetics, so
it doesn't look like a construction site. He suggested screening or a vegetative buffer.
Mr Miller said this work will probably be Phase 1 of a long-term future effort and there are
many opinions of what this site should be long-term, such as a formal docking facility.
Vice Chair Burke asked who would be doing the work.
Mr. Miller said the stone will be delivered and county staff will grade it.
Mr.Brechnitz noted that the site is very important for Marco Island. There's a move on the
island to prohibit staging seawall construction on empty lots, so it was severely restricted
recently,and residents want it restricted further.This site is just about the only place where
seawall contractors can stage seawall construction. He agreed it could look nicer.
Mr. Brechnitz moved to authorize the expenditure of S15,704 to Grippo Pavement
Maintenance Inc., under Contract No. 21-7837,for the purchase of the aggregate stone to
stabilize the county owned barge loading site at S.S.Jolley Bridge and made a finding that
the expenditure promotes tourism. Second by Mr. Jim Burke. Carried unanimously,8-0.
5. Water Quality Subcommittee Report
Mr. Roth provided a report on the Water Quality Subcommittee meeting Monday at the GMD
building. He reported that:
• Several ideas for new county programs were identified to promote clean water and water
quality.
• Ideas range from feasibility studies for projects to public relations involving county
departments spreading the word to make the public aware of the county's issues and
efforts.
• At the subcommittee's next meeting on Feb. 7, members will select the top ideas and
will make a report to provide to the CAC and BCC in March.
Chairman Trecker asked for more details about projects the subcommittee is considering.
Mr. Roth said one was re-establishment of seagrass beds. He cited a prime spot in Caxambas
Pass on Marco Island that used to have a lot of seagrass and manatees, but they've vanished this
year.The county could retain a consultant to do a feasibility study about potential sites and what
efforts could be made. He noted that Collier County has a Lake Watch program,a freshwater
program where residents get involved and submit data to the county.That could be expanded to
salt water.
Mr. Christman said the subcommittee also talked about strengthening the county's stormwater
management code for new development and looking at what the city of Naples had done
recently. He said there's a need in the county.
Mr.Roth noted that the city addresses stormwater issues when new developments come in, but
the county does not,despite having more development. He said if it's successful and feasible in
Naples, it should be expanded to the county.
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Chairman Trecker noted that the county discussed that years ago, but it was tabled.
Vice Chair Burke asked if there was any plan to do outreach. He asked about a private, non-
profit putting oysters in Moorings Bay to improve water quality.
Mr.Roth said work is going on in Fort Myers and that was the idea for seagrass re-
establishment here. He cited a program on the East Coast on St. John's River,where people take
burlap and weave sea grass through it and add oyster crates. However, he noted that something
killed seagrass, chances are it had a lot to do with water quality, so that needs to be looked at.
He noted there were several private projects in other areas and that county government needs to
get involved because it owes that to residents. He noted that no one was talking about water
quality five years ago, so he hopes some of these programs are embraced and become a reality.
Mr. Brechnitz asked if Mr. Roth was aware of the seagrass restoration at Tigertail Beach Park,
where a permit has been issued, with conditions.There's still some mitigation they're looking
for that hasn't been resolved, but it has progressed. He suggested that as another seagrass
restoration project, noting that nine manatees were stranded there in the past two months.
Mr. McCann said a large part of Collier County's water quality problem is that it doesn't
inspect septic tanks or mandate periodic proof to show they're working. Evidence indicates it's a
massive problem. Naples solved most of its problems by switching to sewers.The county has an
enormous septic issue. He said he understands it's a costly expense to build new ones and noted
that it's often elderly people with older homes and limited funds. But he said the county is
hiding the problem by not dealing with it when many other communities help fund it. Most
states require homes to be brought up to full compliance when a house is sold within five years.
He said there are five-year, low-interest loans to deal with it. All those materials and nitrates go
into waterways,the Gulf and other bodies of water. He called it a tragedy that it's not considered
a water-quality problem and branded nitrates as the county's biggest problem. It must be dealt
with or the county's waterways won't ever be cleaned up.
Mr. Roth said that in Massachusetts,they don't allow a property to be sold unless the septic
system is inspected and certified to show it meets current codes,or there must be an effort
approved by the Massachusetts DEP before a sale.
Assistant County Attorney Green reminded the board that they must stay within the functions,
powers and duties of the ordinance, which is limited to coastal communities.The 195 Funds for
beach renourishment may not be eligible for water-quality issues. It depends on the nature of the
proposal.The lagoon improvement on Marco Island is eligible, but not all are. They must be
reviewed on a case-by-case basis and the CAC may have to look at other sources of funds for a
lot of these water-quality issues.
IX. Old Business
Mr. Brechnitz asked Mr. Miller about the permit for the dredging of Collier Creek. He asked if the
jetty was part of that project.
Mr.Miller said that was the permeable groin. He said there was a small jetty at the very tip of the
island,as well.There's an existing one, but they would rebuild a smaller one to protect the
mangroves.
Mr.Brechnitz asked if the sand dredge would be put out in the Gulf.
Mr. Miller said some sand will be put in the Gulf and some will go on the beach to the east, between
the permeable groin and Collier Creek.
X. Announcements
None
XI. Committee Member Discussion
None.
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XII. Next Meeting
1 p.m. Feb. 10. 2022 -CANCELED
There being no further business for the good of the County,the meeting was adjourned by order
of the chair at 2:17 p.m.
Collier County Coastal Advisory Committee
avid Tr ,Chairman
These minutes were approved by the Committee on 3 V a c) . as presented. or as
amended
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