EAC Minutes 08/01/2007 R
August 1, 2007
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
Naples, Florida, August I, 2007
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Environmental
Advisory Council in and for the County of Collier, having conducted
business herein, met on this date at 9:00 AM in REGULAR SESSION in
Building "F" of the Government Complex, Naples, Florida, with the
following members present:
CHAIRMAN:
William Hughes
Lee Horn
Dr. Judith Hushon
Roger Jacobsen
David Bishof (for Nick Penniman)
Michael V. Sorrell
Dr. Lew Williams (Excused)
Richard Miller
William W. Hill
ALSO PRESENT:
Jeff Wright, Assistant County Attorney
Bill Lorenz, Environmental Services Director
Summer Arague, Senior Environmentalist
August 1,2007
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chairman William Hughes at 9:00 AM.
II. Roll Call
A quorum was established.
III. Approval of Agenda
IV.
Mr. Sorrell moved to approve the Agenda. Seconded by Mr. Hill. Carried
unanimously 8-0.
IV. Approval of July 11, 2007 meeting minutes.
Discussion ensued regarding the desirability of adding the names of the
individual Committee members more often in the minutes.
Mr. Sorrell requested the addition of the following to the discussion on Page 4
regarding burrowing owls: "Insufficient data had been supplied to verify the
number of burrowing owls since the commencement of mining activities."
Dr. Hushon moved to approve the Minutes of July 11, 2007 as amended.
Seconded by Mr. Hill. Carried unanimously 8-0.
V. Upcoming Environmental Advisory Council Absences
Chairman Hughes announced receipt of a letter of resignation from Dr. William
Hill. Chairman Hughes expressed his appreciation for the years of service of Mr.
Hill.
Mr. Miller stated he would not be present for the October 2007 meeting.
VI. Land Use Petitions
A. Planned Unit Development PUDZ-2005-AR-8416
"Pezzetino Di Cielo RPUD," Section 12, Township 48 South, Range 25 East
Presenters were sworn in by Assistant County Attorney Jeff Wright.
Disclosures:
Mr. Jacobsen disclosed that he called Kimberly Schlachta seeking permission to
enter the property that Ms. Schlachta was unable to give. Mr. Jacobsen stated he
called the owner of the property who was not available and there was no return
telephone call.
Kimberly Schlachta gave a presentation regarding the project. (See attached
Staff Report)
. There were no adjacent preserves, wildlife corridors or environmental
issues directly surrounding the project
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· Site contained just under one acre of wetland at the northwest side of
the site near the entrance area where the preserve was planned to be
located
. There was an old agricultural facility where tractors, mowing
equipment, pigs and horses were kept
· Some areas were remnant areas that contained pockets of pine with
scattered exotics, a lot of clearing had been done, open areas did not
contain a lot of indigenous vegetation, all of which had been taken into
consideration when determining where to locate the preserve area on
the site
· Location of the preserve was determined in part by Transportation
Department issues and the location of the roadway into the
development
· Additional preserve may be restored and included but not as part of the
Collier County plan.
· Permitting with South Florida Water Management was currently being
sought and through that process additional preserve enhancement
might be done on-site
· Restoration which did not meet the Collier County requirements was
being looked at which would be for mitigation on-site for the South
Florida Water Management District
Mr. Horn questioned whether any soil testing had been done to determine
whether contamination had occurred during agricultural use of the property.
Ms. Schlachta responded a Phase I assessment had been done on the site.
Dr. Hushon pointed out that soil samples would be taken in a Phase II rather than
a Phase I which is visual.
Ms. Schlachta stated she was not aware of a Phase II being done.
Mr. Jacobsen asked if the property was ever planted or was the property strictly
used for pigs and horses and whether there might have been chemical usage on
other parts of the property.
Ms. Schlachta responded that she had no personal knowledge whether the
property was used for other agricultural uses; the property was originally cleared
for pasture use.
Mr. Jacobsen commented that on Page 16 of the Environmental Impact
Statement it stated under Nutrient and Pesticide Management that each lot owner
must commit themselves to the practice of responsible and careful landscape
design and maintenance of each lot to prevent contamination of surface water, and
Mr. Jacobsen asked how the developer intended to convey this to the homeowners
and how would the homeowners be obliged to commit to these goals.
Wayne Arnold responded that this would be a villa community and the
Homeowners' Association would be anticipated to be responsible for all
maintenance for the yards and landscaping in the community.
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Mr. Jacobsen pointed out that the EIS stated that each homeowner must commit
himself or herself.
Mr. Arnold responded through acquisition of the property there would be a
maintenance agreement and a Homeowners' Association that the owners would be
a party to, and the statement in the ElS is more of a generalized statement as
opposed to how management may occur on this particular property.
Mr. Jacobsen asked what method would be used to remove the exotic vegetation.
Ms. Schlachta responded nothing had been finalized yet, the permitting process
had not been completed with South Florida Water Management; however, no
arsenic-based products would be used and there was not an exact plan in place.
Mr. Bishof stated there was a large variance in the seasonal high indicators in the
wetlands and he asked what indicators were identified.
Ms. Schlachta responded several indicators in the wetland area were watermarks
on Cypress trees, adventitious rooting on Melalueca trees and indicators were
checked on several si tes.
Mr. Bishof commented that one tree contained two different indicators.
Ms. Schlachta responded that one was a wet-season line and the other was an
average high-water line.
Mr. Bishof questioned whether the South Florida Water Management District had
accepted a seasonal high number for the wetland.
Ms. Schlachta responded there was no approved permit.
Mr. Bishof stated he had concerns regarding the hydrology of the remaining
portion of the wetlands being maintained and if water were lowered on the pond it
would draw down the wetland, and he stated the issue had not been adequately
addressed.
Dr. Hushon asked if the site was bermed against Mediterra.
Ms. Schlachta said yes.
Mr. Arnold stated the initial designs did not show an interconnection between the
remaining wetland and lake area.
Dr. Hushon asked whether water would be discharged from the lake.
Mr. Arnold responded yes, water would be discharged to Livingston Road.
Dr. Hushon stated the level of the discharge system would playa huge role in
what happened; iflow, it would draw from the wetland into the lake and then
from the lake to Livingston Road and ifit were maintained at a high discharge
level, then the wetland would remain.
Mr. Bishof stated under the current figures and information the wetland would be
destroyed. Mr. Bishof stated the wetland should be preserved 100% and inquired
why any impact should be permitted.
Ms. Schlachta responded Collier County staff did recommend preserving fox
squirrel habitat.
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Summer Arague, Collier County Senior Environmentalist, stated the wetlands
present were not high-quality wetlands and the recommendation was made to
preserve more of the potential fox squirrel habitat where the previous nests were
located.
Mr. Jacobsen asked what the alternate plan might be if deviations from the LDC
were not granted.
Mr. Arnold responded the Master Plan would have to be adjusted accordingly.
Chairman Hughes stated the presentation was weak and asked how long Ms.
Schlachta spent on the property gathering the data on endangered species.
Ms. Schlachta responded she spent several hours one day and several hours
another day during mapping and some of the time was unrecorded. More than
one field person participated in the collection of the data. Stick nests of foxtail
squirrels that were present prior to Hurricane Wilma were blown away by the
hurricane and had not been rebuilt.
Public Comment:
None
Richard Yovanovich, Esq., who represented the Petitioner, stated the soil testing
was not warranted since a Phase I was done. Applicant could agree to soil testing
prior to the next development order but it is not a requirement of the Code and is
not appropriate on a small site when Collier County staff did not require it. If
desired, testing should become a Code requirement so it applies to everyone.
Issues have been reviewed by Collier County staff, water management issues will
be reviewed by South Florida Water Management District. Delay could adversely
affect scheduling dates.
Mr. Jacobsen stated the Environmental Advisory Committee was a third step in
the process and would not take at face value what Collier County staff provided
nor did it take at face value what the South Florida Water Management District
provided and more information needed to be provided.
Ms. Arague suggested coming back before the SOP or plat approval, that desired
requirements be put in the PUD document, and that this matter could come back
before the EAC at the time of the next Development Order.
Chairman Hughes stated the EAC wanted to see all the data and suggested the
Petitioner submit the information to staff who would forward the information to
the EAC members and if necessary the matter would be called back before the
EAC and the matter could be called back at any time before being voted upon by
the Board of County Commissioners and possibly even after that.
Dr. Hushon stated she had more problem with the Development Order
proceeding and would like to tie conditions to the Development Order.
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Staff Comments:
Ms. Arague stated Collier County staff does recommend approval.
Mr. Jacobsen moved to approve the proposal of Petitioner Pezzettino DiCielo
with the caveats that all EAC members get a copy to review of the Phase I and a
copy of the drain program, with all documents to be received two weeks prior to
the EAC meeting in September 2007. Seconded by Mr. Miller.
Dr. Hushon stated the motion did not include soil sampling prior to issuance of
the Development Order.
Mr. Sorrell suggested walking the property.
Mr. Jacobsen moved to amend the motion by adding soil-testing requirements
as follows: "Testing for chlorinated hydrocarbons, organophosphates and total
petroleum hydrocarbons must be performed." Seconded by Mr. Miller. Carried
unanimously 8-0.
(Break - 10:22)
(Reconvened -10:39)
Mr. Jacobsen moved to amend the Agenda by reversing "New Business" with
"Old Business." Seconded by Mr. Sorrell. Carried unanimously 8-0.
VIII. New Business
A. FFWCC New Proactive Approach Towards Wildlife Conservation
Within Land Use Planning and Development Activities - Joe Walsh with
FFWCC
Mr. Walsh gave a PowerPoint presentation discussing changes within FFWCC.
(See attached)
Chairman Hughes stated Collier County appreciates input from the State but was
concerned that Collier County is losing control.
Mr. Walsh responded the counties would have to take control and local
government had the last say.
Chairman Hughes stated the serious issues are being decided at the State level
and it was easier for individuals to pervert the system.
Mr. Walsh responded Collier County would be required to justify its decisions
and FFWCC wanted to provide defensible information to the Counties and the
agency would provide clear policies.
Chairman Hughes stated the Gopher Tortoise program does not work since there
was a high mortality rate when the tortoises were relocated.
Mr. Walsh responded there was a dedicated Gopher Tortoise team.
Chairman Hughes spoke in favor of supporting agricultural interests.
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Dr. Hushon asked whether there would be a centralized source of scientific
information regarding Florida endangered species and expressed particular
concern regarding panther information.
Mr. Walsh responded they were beginning to do so.
· Panther telemetry is 24 hours per day but the public currently only had
access to daytime information
. Access to information from private lands was needed but difficult to
get
· Licensing or certification program was being considered for
environmental or biological professionals
Mr. Miller suggested there be a provision in the tax code for landowners to be
permitted to give up development rights in return for a reduction in property taxes
and also the Counties could make a provision where landowners would receive a
percentage reduction in property taxes on a graduated scale based on the amount
of vegetation they agree to preserve.
Mr. Walsh stated it would also be beneficial for the Counties to do the same with
priority habitats and necessary buffer areas.
Public Speakers:
Jennifer Hecker, Conservancy of Southwest Florida, commended the FFWCC
on its new proactive approach but expressed concern regarding the reduction in
services and asked how the Conservancy could be helpful in getting FFWCC
additional needed resources. Ms. Hecker expressed particular concern regarding
panthers and stated FFWCC should have an increased role in the Rural Land
Stewardship Program. Ms. Hecker also stated authority and regulations for
panther recovery currently exist.
Mr. Walsh responded today he was discussing a single unit in the FFWCC
agency and that it would take time to change the entire agency and panther
relocation success depends on the approval of the public.
(Chairman Hughes left the room at 12:28 PM.)
(Vice-Chairman Dr. Judith Hushon presided over the meeting during
Chairman Hughes' absence.)
VII. Old Business
A. Update Members on Projects
Ms. Arague provided updates as follows:
· There is a new second alternate, Mark Fenton
· The letter Dr. Hushon wrote regarding limitations on nutrient releases
was forwarded to the Collier County Board of County Commissioners
on July 23,2007
· Hussey project was denied 2-3 with a motion not to transmit
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(Chairman Hughes returned at 12:29 PM)
Bill Lorenz, Environmental Services Director, stated the Vegetation Removal
Ordinance prohibiting taking down trees that house threatened species without a
permit for the LDC amendment cycle is scheduled to be heard during the Fall
cycle with the draft being presented in the Fall and public hearings beginning
during the March-April timeframe, and work should begin on the Ordinance in
two weeks.
Mr. Jacobsen stated he attended a Planning Commission meeting where the
Keewaydin Island project was being considered and observed the Staff Report to
the Planning Commission on the EAC report was accurate but not complete
enough and more detail was needed.
B. Update members on upcoming presentation scheduled
Ms. Arague provided an update as follows:
· Pollution control presentation is scheduled for November 2007
C. Staff time assigned to the EAC
Mr. Lorenz stated staff has not been given direction by the Collier County Board
of County Commissioners to pursue an Ordinance prohibiting taking down trees
that house threatened species without a permit. He also stated due to a decrease in
revenues in his department there has been a hiring freeze and a reduction in staff
resulting in a reduced ability to support EAC but will work with EAC as much as
possible and it would be helpful if Subcommittees could be formed to perform
research.
Chairman Hughes stated one of the purposes ofthe EAC is to examine issues
regardless of the politics involved, and one way to control legislation is to deny
funding for policing of the legislation. Chairman Hughes stated the EAC has the
right to promulgate its own legislation and to inject it into the system at any time
whether money is provided or not.
Dr. Hushon provided an update on the Habitat Conservation Plan Advisory
Committee as follows:
· Original goal was to examine feasibility ofHCP for all of Collier
County
. Second goal has been to examine the opportunity for preparing an
HCP for the Immokalee Master Plan
· Meeting was held in Immokalee on August 1, 2007 regarding the
language that is going into the Master Plan which contains language
which could encompass an HCP for Immokalee
· Concept of taking mitigation money and returning that money to the
benefit of the Immokalee community is one of the intents ofthe
language presented
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Mr. Lorenz stated HCPAC had direction from the Collier County Board of
County Cornmissioners to examine other mechanisms as alternatives to an HCP,
and Mr. Walsh and his staff will be addressing the HCPAC.
Dr. Huston moved to table the mission statement to the next meeting. Seconded
by Mr. Jacobsen. Carried unanimously 8-0.
IX. Subcommittee Reports
None
X. Council Member Comments
Chairman Hughes thanked Mr. Hill for his service to Collier County.
XI. Public Comments
None
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by the order of the Chair at 12:52 PM.
COLLIER COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL
ADVISORY COUNCIL
Chairman William Hughes
These Minutes were approved by the Chairman on
, or as amended
, as presented
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