HAPB Minutes 08/21/2020 August 21,2020
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
HISTORICAL/ARCHAEOLOGICAL PRESERVATION BOARD
Naples, Florida, August 21, 2020
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Historical/
Archaeological Preservation Board in and for the County of Collier, having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:15 A.M. in REGULAR
SESSION at the Collier County Growth Management Division —Planning
and Regulation, Conference Room #610, 2800 North Horseshoe Drive,
Naples, Florida with the following members present in person or virtually
via tele-conferencing:(T).
CHAIRMAN: Eugene Erjavec
VICE CHAIRMAN: Eileen Arsenault (T)
Austin Bell (T)
Stuart Miller(T)
Elizabeth Perdichizzi (T)
Elaine Reed (T)
George Thompson
ALSO PRESENT: Ray Bellows, Planning Manager—Zoning Services
Timothy Finn, Principal Planner—Growth Management
Alexandra Cassanova, Staff Liaison—Growth Mgrnt.
Sharon Umpenhour—Q. Grady Minor& Assoc
Michelle Eddleman McCormick—Citizen
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The Meeting was called to order at 9:17 am by Chairman Eugene Erjavec.
1 Roll Call/Attendance:
Roll Call was taken; a quorum was present; two in person and five virtually.
2, Addenda to the Agenda:
Elaine Reed asked to add an Addenda to the Agenda—a letter to the City Council
regarding The City of Marco Island& Interlocal Agreement with Collier County.
(to be taken up under C. Old Business,)
3. Approval of the Agenda
George Thompson moved to approve the Agenda, as amended to add Letter to City
Council of Marco Island regarding Interlocal Agreement. Second by Eugene
Erjavec. Carried unanimously, 7-0.
4. Approval of Minutes: January 17, 2020
Elaine Reed noted several items needing clarification and/or correction. She will
summarize those subjects and forward to Alexandra and.Ginny for correction.
Both January 17, 2020's minutes and today's minutes will be presented for approval
at the next HAPB meeting.
NOTED: The Meetings for February through July were canceled due to the
COVID-19 corona virus pandemic restrictions.
5. Old Business:
A. Historic Guide—Printing Status
Ray Bellows announced they have been working with Amanda Townsend,utilizing
updated software programs to generate the finalized Historic Guide. Copies of the
completed, updated and enlarged Guide had been distributed to the HAPB members for
their approval. The next step will be getting the cost estimates and working through
Jack Wert to getting it funded; and, getting it printed.
The entire HAPB voted their approval of the final copy of the Historic Guide.
B. Rivergrass Village Status
Ray Bellows stated the BCC had approved the Rivergrass Village SRA. No
subsequent permits, applications for platting or site development plans had been filed.
He stated one reason may be a pending lawsuit had been filed against the developer.
Those issues were being worked out before proceeding. lie stated two other villages
were also in the works, proceeding to public hearing. He stated when all plans are in
for those projects, either a Cultural Assessment or Application for a Waiver will be
presented to the HAPB for their review.
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Elaine Reed explained she had drafted a letter to the City of Marco Island,directed to
its chairman, regarding the benefit of creating an Inter-local Agreement between the
City of Marco Island and Collier County Government. The benefit to the City of
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Marco Island would be the preservation and recognition of its many historical &
archeological sites and treasures, while benefitting from the HAPB and County's
resources.
Ray Bellows cautioned that there was no formal process for the County to get involved
as the City has its own guidelines for historic preservation. Also, the Marco Island
Historical Society could talk to the City Council. The County could only provide some
guidance as to what the County's preservation rules and guidelines are. The City may
want to adopt some of those guidelines. However, enforcement was up to the City of
Marco Island's governing body.
The HAPB members offered comments and suggested some re-wording to the letter.
Ray Bellows suggested that Elaine work on the re-wording and send the final draft to
Alexandria Cassanova for review. It should be signed by the Chairman. The final draft
will be presented at the next HAPB meeting for approval before sending it out.
Elaine Reed will make the changes for the next HAPB meeting.
It was suggested that Pat Rutledge be invited to the next HAPB meeting. Elaine Reed
responded the subject matter needing discussion was vast and would take up too much
time at a regular HAPB meeting.
Elaine asked if Austin Bell could contact Pat Rutledge,Executive Director of the MIHS
to inform her that Elaine would be contacting her regarding the information she has
researched on forming an Inter-local agreement with the City of Marco Island. She,and
the HAPB, agreed on the value of input by Pat Rutledge for presentation to the City
Council of an Interlocal Agreement with the City of Marco Island.
All members of the HAPB agreed. Austin Bell agreed to message Pat Rutledge.
6. NEW BUSINESS
A. Deep 50 Gun Range Historic Resource Waiver Application
The HAPB had been provided with all documentation regarding the Deep 50
Gun Range Historic Resource Waiver Application and Conditional Use prior to
the meeting.
Present was a representative from Q. Grady Minor&Assoc.-Sharon Umpenhour,to
answer any questions.
Chairman Eugene Erjavec provided some background information on the history of
the property in question,which was once the Copland Prison. He made note that future
development would require an Archaeological Survey to be done, according to the
source he was quoting. He questioned the eligibility for a waiver according to that
source. He questioned the possibility of a cemetery in the area and where the material
for the berm wall was coming from. He was not in favor of a Waiver due to too many
unanswered issues.
Ray Bellows responded that no construction or alteration of the site would be disturbed.
that hadn't already been disturbed. Any environmentally protected areas would still be
protected.
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Sharon Umpenhour,representing,Q.Grady Minor&Assoc.responded that the fill
would be brought in from off-sight. She stated no utilities would be installed.
A lengthy discussion followed regarding the possibility of future ground disturbances
or excavations that could disturb possible artifacts,or possible graves.
George Thompson moved to approve the Waiver with the stipulated condition that
any alteration or excavations of any type be prohibited Seconded by Stuart Miller.
Carried unanimously, 7-0.
B. HAPB New Member Selection
Chairman Eugene Erjavec announced there were two new candidates for
Membership on the HAPB to fill one vacant position.
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Ray Bellows suggested the candidate be selected at this meeting to be able to
present it at the upcoming BCC meeting.
After reviewing the applications of both candidates-
Stuart Miller moved to recommend the approval of the appointment of
Barry O'Brien to the HAPB. Second by Eugene Erjavec. Motion carried
unanimously, 7-0.
7. Review of Project and Activity Log
1.Rivergrass Village SRA-Approved by BCC 2-25-20 (Appeal has been filed)
2. Interlocal Agreement with City of Marco-(Previously discussed above)
3. Indian Hill Site on Marco Island-A good example why an interlocal
agreement is needed with the City of Marco Island. .
4. Update the Probability Maps-County GIS Staff completed the process of revising
the latest historic and archeological data from the Florida Master Site File
S. Historic Guide-Completed; Distributing copies from the second printing.
6. Horse Creek.Estates Historic Marker and Designation-Staff will coordinate
with Amanda Townsend concerning an updated historic marker when the seasonal
residents return.
A motion was made by Eugene Erjavec to remove the Probability Maps item from the
Project and Activity Log. Seconded by George Thompson.Motion carried 7-0.
A motion was made by Eugene Erjavec to remove the Historic Guide item from the
Project and Activity Log. Seconded by George Thompson. Motion carried 7-0.
Public Comment
Michelle Eddlcman McCormick inquired about the process to having a property
designated as historical. She spoke about a small plot in the Goodlette Rd/Pine
Ridge Road area that has eight graves from the 1920's marked only with concrete
posts, with no other indication they are there. The property houses a small
shopping center with a restaurant.
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Ray Bellows stated the County was aware of the property and the PUD for that
project did not include that particular parcel as being part of the PUD; but part of
the County right of way. He stated the County owns and maintains the Rosemary
Cemetery in that same vicinity. The process for obtaining and maintaining the parcel
she spoke of could be handled the same way.
George Thompson stated the heirs needed to be contacted.
The owner, the John Pulling Estate, may be able to be contacted through the Property
Appraiser's information.
Eugene Erjavec made a motion to move forward, on behalf of a public citizen's
request, with initiating the process of the historical designation of the John
Pulling small cemetery property at Pine Ridge Rd. and Goodlette Rd. Second by
Stuart Miller. Motion carried unanimously, 7-0.
Chairman Eugene Erjavec requested this item be added to the Project and
Activity List.
Ray Bellows stated the first step in the process would be for him and Tim Finn to
contact Amanda Townsend, County Museum Director, to research any historical
information available and contact the heirs.
Ms McCormick provided quite a bit of historic information which she will convey to
Ray Bellows and Tim Finn to add to the packet of information supporting the case
for designation; and will be helpful in the property research. The HAPB thanked her
for coming forward with this helpful information and for her interest in preservation.
The next scheduled meeting will be held on Friday September 18, 2020 in Room
#610 Collier County Growth Management Division, 2800 N. Horseshoe Drive.
10. Adjournment
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned on a motion by George Thompson, seconded by Eugene Erjavec.
Motion carried, 7-0. The meeting was adjourned at 10:31 A.M.
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Chairman, Eugene Erjavec
These meeting noes approved by the Board/Committee on / 7 zoz_i as
presented or as amended .
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