BCC Minutes 06/24/2021 B June 24, 2021
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TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Naples, Florida, June 24, 2021
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County
Commissioners, in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as
the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such
special districts as have been created according to law and having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00 a.m., in BUDGET
SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex, East Naples,
Florida, with the following members present:
Chairman: Penny Taylor
William L. McDaniel, Jr.
Rick LoCastro
Burt L. Saunders
Andy Solis
ALSO PRESENT:
Mark Isackson, County Manager
Edward Finn, OMB Director
Troy Miller, Communications & Customer Relations
Jeffrey A. Klatzkow, County Attorney
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June 24, 2021
Notice of Public Meeting
Notice is hereby given that the Board of County Commissioners of Collier County will
conduct Budget Workshops on Thursday, June 24, 2021 and Friday, June 25, 2021, if
necessary, at 9:00 a.m. Workshops will be held in the Boardroom, 3rd Floor, W. Harmon
Turner Building, Collier County Government Center, 3299 Tamiami Trail, Naples,
Florida to hear the following:
COLLIER COUNTY GOVERNMENT
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
FY 2021 BUDGET WORKSHOP
June 24, 2021
Thursday, June 24, 2021
9:00 a.m.: General Overview
Courts and Related Agencies (State Attorney and Public Defender):
Growth Management:
Public Services:
Administrative Services:
Public Utilities:
Debt Service:
Management Offices (Pelican Bay):
County Attorney:
Board of County Commissioners:
1:00 p.m.: Constitutional Officers
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Elections:
Clerk of Courts:
Sheriff:
Other Constitutional Officers requesting to address the BCC
Public Comment
Adjourn
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MR. ISACKSON: Madam Chair, Commissioners, you have a
live mic.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you very much.
Welcome on Thursday, June 24th. This is our traditional budget
workshop.
This year we -- our County Manager is going to deliver some
remarks and outline an agenda, but he's also our former budget
director, so I think he's going to have a lot to say today. So I will
turn this over to County Attorney.
MR. ISACKSON: We can start the proceedings, Madam Chair,
with the Pledge.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I think that's a great idea.
Commissioner Saunders, if you'd lead us in the Pledge, please.
(The Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.)
MR. ISACKSON: Madam Chair, Commissioners, before I get
into the general overview section, I wanted to try and give you a little
outline of the proceedings today. And you can see on your
visualizer we put on there the various County Manager agency and
courts operations that will be beginning after my general overview
comments, and then you have at 1:00 p.m. the constitutional officers
beginning with the Supervisor of Elections, the Clerk of the Circuit
Court, the Sheriff, and then any other constitutional officers
requesting to address the Board.
Public comment, we've traditionally put it at the end of the
meeting, but I think we have always allowed those who wish to sign
up to talk about specific sections of the presentations after those
presentations and after Board discussion. So I think we have a few
speakers on the line, I think, remotely. This is a hybrid remote
meeting. It was advertised as such.
And I think the format -- we're going to keep it, from a
department standpoint, having the department head -- on the County
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Manager Agency side, the department head and their chief financial
operations officers will be presenting information to you and
responding to questions of the Board.
So without further ado, let me proceed. We'll pull up the
general overview.
GENERAL OVERVIEW
MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, what I've attempted to do in
the PowerPoint -- and I won't take long. I sent this out yesterday to
everybody, including the officers. There was a pretty good list of
folks that received it yesterday afternoon.
This is intended to try and highlight what I think are the key
points in what is admittedly a very voluminous document, some 600
pages. What I tried to do is condense that into what I think are the
salient points that board members need to focus in on. Many of you
have looked at the document. It really hasn't changed much in terms
of its format. The overview section in the first part of the book is
intended to give commissioners a general idea of our philosophy of
what we try and accomplish with the budget document.
Commissioners, the timeline -- you've seen this slide before.
The timeline essentially begins with your budget policies and ends
with a package of information that's sent off through the state
Department of Revenue TRIM section, but in between there you've
got various opportunities to talk about the budget, beginning with
today's session. There's a tentative budget that's submitted to the
Board in July pursuant to the TRIM notice, and then you have your
two public hearings in September. After July 1 it gets real routinized
with regard to TRIM statutes, so there's certain things that obviously
the staff has to do in order to meet those TRIM requirements. But
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this slide gives you a little idea on the timelines and things that
happen throughout the budget -- what we call the budget season.
I threw this slide in here this year, Commissioners, to give you a
sense of characteristics of the budget. Obviously, it comports with
Chapter 129 of the Florida Statutes, which is the county's annual
budget. It's balanced as presented, and it will be balanced
throughout the process. When changes are made, if changes are
made by the Board, the budget is reconfigured and balanced.
So the balancing part is something that we do regularly. It's
balanced now. If you did nothing between now and September, this
would be your budget document. It's a flexible tool. You've heard
me say that before. And that's been the philosophy of when I was
the budget director, and it will continue to be the philosophy for as
long as I'm in the organization.
Sufficient budget. That's a term of art, but it's also very
important. Nothing happens on the expenditure side without
sufficient budget in the organization. That applies to our operating
side of the house as well as the capital side of the house. The
document reflects the best efforts of staff and our constitutional
officers to maintain and, where appropriate, enhance our services.
And, finally, Commissioners, we really pride ourselves in our
conservative budgeting and forecasting practices. That, coupled
with your strong policy-driven reserve position, really enables us to
react to and overcome a lot of the unforeseen events that are thrown
at us often, and it also provides us with an opportunity to continue to
make this community what is a premium community to live, work,
and play.
The current economic landscape, I won't get into a lot of this.
The commissioners have their pulse on, certainly, the economic -- our
unemployment rate is dropping. Our new home sales, there's a
recent article in the Naples Daily News about the median home price
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has skyrocketed in the community. It used to be, over the last couple
years, in the mid 400 ranges. It's now popped to over 620K.
Our visitation to the destination, as Commissioner Solis has pointed
out, in some of his communications to the Board, is returning to what
we think are going to be record -- record highs.
Our new construction permitting, Mr. French and Ms. Scott, in
their areas, are trending positively. Our countywide taxable value is
up for the tenth consecutive year. We're now at about $104 billion.
And the state has estimated that they -- their economic experts think
that continuing over the next couple of fiscal year cycles it will pop
in the range of 4-and-a-half to 5 percent. Of course, I'm very
conservative in how we estimate those things, and we're always
positioned to handle downturns should they -- should they occur.
I wanted to give you a couple of slides that talked about how
we're recovering from the pandemic. The dotted orange line is what
we thought was going to occur based on information that we knew a
year or so ago about the pandemic. The orange bold line is what
actually occurred in 2020, and the blue line is what happened in '19,
and the purple line is what's happening now.
So you can see there's a constant drop as you go through these
various revenue sources like the half-cent sales tax and the
infrastructure sales tax.
The point of this is we are recovering and recovering nicely. It
points out our very conservative forecasting numbers which allowed
us to, again, weather what was admittedly a two-month economic
shutdown, and we're on the right path going forward.
Same with our tourist development taxes. And our gas taxes
have hovered in at around the 20- to $22 million level. That's been a
constant number over the past couple years. It's not as -- the swings
there aren't as dramatic and haven't been as dramatic.
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The recommended budget highlights, I'm not going to go
through all these, but I'm going to pick up on the ones that I think are
important. We set budget guidance every year. This year it was
one-half of 1 percent on the operating side, and all of the rest of the
money we tried to devote to the capital side of the house.
Commissioners, that represents a significant philosophy change
in the organization, and it's like turning the Titanic sometimes. It
takes you a while to move that rutter and move that philosophy
forward in the organization.
It's not that we're disregarding the operating side of the house;
we aren't. We keep it at adopted service levels. But we have a
substantial infrastructure investment in this community, and it's the
hallmark of why I think people come to our lovely community. So I
wanted to point that out.
Our tax rate is -- the General Fund is currently at 3.5645 per
thousand dollars of taxable value. Noting that Conservation Collier
this year, the referendum allows up to .25 mills per thousand dollars
of taxable value; if you levied 25 cents on a thousand, it's
$26 million. The Board will be making those decisions as it goes
along in the process with your final tax rates adopted in September.
The unincorporated area rate is .8069, and that includes a portion of
.0906 for landscaping in the community.
Expanded service requests, we have one in the County
Manager's side of the house but primarily driven by vehicles. We're,
obviously -- with our capital plants coming online, we needed some
additional vehicles to service those areas. So that's what you see
there.
The Sheriff's Office, of course, is looking to -- in the final year
of a four-year program where we've been adding 10 sworn officers a
year devoted exclusively toward our school safety -- school safety
program, which was an offshoot of the legislation that was passed a
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couple years ago by the state.
The Clerk of the Circuit Court is asking for six individuals, and
the Supervisor of Elections is asking for one.
Our reserves, Commissioner -- and you've heard me rail on this
for years and years; our reserves are policy driven. They are
increasing. They've increased every year for the last 12, 13 years
that I sat in Ed's chair. And oh, by the way, I noticed Ed there. I
know most of you know Ed Finn, but Ed's now taking over my slot as
the budget director. I think I'll take this opportunity to acknowledge
Ed and welcome him to the hot seat a little bit.
MR. FINN: Thank you, Mark.
MR. ISACKSON: More importantly, reserves is the -- is the
continuation of a program we set up a couple years ago where we're
setting aside money for what we term a long-term capital reserve, and
it really recognizes our substantial infrastructure investment and our
future responsibility to maintain and replace that important asset.
We've added another 2-and-a-half million dollars to that tranche. So
instead of 5 million dollars, it is now going to be 7-and-a-half million
dollars.
Continuing on, I mentioned earlier that paradigm shift from
operations to capital. We're about $105 million more in new money
in '22 that's programmed than we were in '21. A lot of that's with
your local option infrastructure sales tax, and it's primarily funded
with that revenue source, user fees, impact fees, and remaining bond
proceeds. Some of that also is in our stormwater area, our
transportation network, our constitutional officer capital, et cetera.
Debt, we'll be talking about debt during '22. We're kind of in a
sweet spot still with interest rates. And I'll be before the Board over
the next few months talking about some opportunities for good
money, taking advantage of our credit rating to tackle some areas like
our governmental operations, business park, transportation
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improvements in the eastern quadrant east of 951, and then further
our infrastructure expansion in the northeast service area.
Workforce, Commissioners, dollars appropriated for employee
compensation. This year we're suggesting a simple $1,000
adjustment to every classification and a modest adjustment for pay
plan maintenance. But the more significant issue is at the end of this
year, we're going to be having a report presented to us from an
outside consultant on our classification and compensation plan. It's
20 years old. It needs to be updated. And more than likely, when
that report comes up, then we'll be issuing some recommendations to
each of you publicly about how we're going to possibly make a
midyear adjustment to the pay plan based on those findings that come
from the -- from the consultant.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: County Manager?
MR. ISACKSON: Yes, ma'am.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Normally we would increase a
percentage. That's why in this year, because of this review, we're
giving $1,000, but that -- the employees need to understand that
changes are afoot.
MR. ISACKSON: Yeah. The thousand dollars is -- the
average salary's about 57,4- in the organization. That thousand
dollars is, on average, about 1.7. Obviously, if you make more
money, it's a lot less. If you make less than 57,4-, it's more.
We've used that approach over the last couple years, but I think
having a complete redo of our classification and compensation
system's in order. We haven't done merit in years, and I'll have some
ideas on how to begin to reintroduce merit back into the organization,
also. So I'm looking forward to that report.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: So am I. Thank you.
MR. ISACKSON: Health insurance, what a good-news item.
Our health insurance premiums haven't increased for the last nine
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years, and that's -- Mr. Walker and his team do an excellent job with
our claims history, and we have very healthy reserves, so we're
allowed to do that. So don't underestimate how that -- how
important that plays in the compensation package.
Millage neutral, our tax rate, if we keep the tax rate the same as
compared to this particular year's levy, we'll be up about $19,400,000
in the General Fund. That would increase the levy to 371 million.
And that's -- this year we played the planning scenario 2 percent, and
that millage neutral rate would garner an additional $11 million over
that planning scenario.
Our Unincorporated General Fund is -- the levy there totals
52.9 million, 46.9, almost 47 devoted to operations in capital -- in the
capital transfers, and 5.9 million for the median landscape program.
As I mentioned earlier, the constitutional officers, they're requesting
some additional staffing. You see that at the bottom of the chart.
Important to understand that the budget will be amended at the
appropriate time to provide the final payment to the Sheriff for a new
helicopter in '22.
I have been in contact with Chief Butcher, and we will be
bringing to you in that July meeting a complete redo of our EMS
plan, pay plan, because it is out of date with regard to our competitor
areas, specifically, our captive fire districts that have much different
pay plans than we do. And we're down a few EMS people because
of that, and I think it's time that we move on that, so...
We have an issue that we're dealing with Ochopee, those last
two bullet points, Commissioners. We're in current discussions with
the leadership at Greater Naples, and we'll be presenting information
to you going forward as to how we can entice the Greater Naples fire
leadership to, in fact, solidify the annexation which was contained in
the management agreement going forward. So hopefully we'll have
some success in that area.
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We talked about the sworn law enforcement officer detail.
We're attempting to realign our budget where prudent to continue our
stormwater program. There's a slide later on that will talk about that.
We always satisfy our policy-driven economic development
incentives.
I mentioned earlier our continued commitment in the long-term
capital recovery reserve. The enterprise -- or the CRAs are
continuing to receive their portion of dollars pursuant to statute.
Our enterprise operations, the water user rates, Joe Bellone tells
me that I put the wrong percentages in there because that was what
we were talking about at our initial meetings, but they're going to be
up about 2.8 percent. But I will say here, Commissioners, that to the
extent that we can use some of the -- some of the COVID money, the
American Rescue Act money, to -- on our maintenance, utility
infrastructure, that would allow Mr. Bellone not to transfer as much
from his 408 operating fund to the user fee fund and, as a result, we
could possibly take a look at reducing those rates, at least year one, in
return.
So we're going to talk a little bit more about that on our July
meeting. But that's -- that's what I have, at least in my mind, in
regards to how we could use some of that COVID money for that
type of purpose.
Our building permit and inspection/reinspection fees were
reduced in 2020, and that base will continue into 2022.
Taxable value, obviously trending up for the tenth year in a row.
This is our millage rate history. The stormwater board has made
some significant investment in our stormwater infrastructure. We're
programming on a continuing cash-and-carry basis 13-plus million
dollars for what we term to be an industry-standard maintenance
program, but we've also issued $60 million in debt to update our
system infrastructure, and that debt service is roughly $2.2 million a
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year. So if you add that to the 13.3, you're getting over $15 million
in investment in the system. And you see below the breakdown.
Slowly, but surely, we're increasing the fund balance in
those -- in those enterprise operations, and that fund balance this year
is a little over 3 million, and it will be used as part of our effort going
forward to continue our stormwater initiative.
This is an eye chart a little bit, Commissioners, but it gives you
an idea on how much the General Fund and the Unincorporated
General Fund contribute to our capital initiative.
Highlighted there, sheriff facilities and the helicopter at
$11 million. Continuing to put aside money for the accounting
system update. That back-office infrastructure, like our IT
component, we're continuing to make substantial investments in that
to try and get our system to a point where it's as failsafe as possible
when it comes to outside attacks.
Our transportation capital is on par with '21. We're continuing
money to maintain our substantial sports complex investment.
So you can see that there is a substantial commitment to our,
what I would call general governmental capital program.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Mr. Isackson, do you want us
to wait on --
MR. ISACKSON: No, no, please, interrupt.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I had some questions on this
chart, but if it comes at a better time.
MR. ISACKSON: No.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: So the Sheriff's big plus-up is
the helicopter.
MR. ISACKSON: Yes, that's predominantly this.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: You know, one thing I sort of
flagged here, and it's not a -- you know, I'm not throwing rocks or
anything, it's just more of a question is, you know, we've got a lot of
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issues with our parks. We have some beautiful parks around here
that need a lot of care and feeding. You know, the previous
commissioner in this seat, you know, lobbied every one of these other
commissioners to make sure that, you know, somebody was doing
something for the parks in District 1 and had a long list of things.
And, you know, when I see a lot of these numbers plus up -- and for
good reason, no question about it.
It just seems like if the numbers stay the same -- they actually go
down because of inflation. You know, we've said in here many
times, cost of construction's gone way up. Well, that's not just
construction. It's also repair and all kinds of other things are all part
of that. Just contracts have gone up.
So when I see the parks sort of stagnant, and I sit here and know
that we have pools that don't work and things are broken, and we hear
from all of our constituents and, you know, we try to work hard in
house, I really take my hat off to how we've absorbed, through our
normal budget, some of those repairs and some things that we've
done at several of the parks.
You know, that number just -- I just sort of put a little flag on it.
I wanted to just hear, you know, maybe we're using other monies or
things like that to just make sure we maintain them at a very high
level.
MR. ISACKSON: Thank you, sir. One --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Before you move on -- are
you finished with that question, or are you --
MR. ISACKSON: Well, I was just going to say,
Commissioner, that remember that we issued $20 million in debt to
fix the aquatic infrastructure that's been lacking. So that's really not
included in that --
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Well, that's covered.
MR. ISACKSON: -- set-aside number.
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COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Which is a biggie, so that's
covered.
MR. ISACKSON: Yep.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: But, you know, I just thought
some of the other things. You know, I mean, I saw some of these
numbers raised, and I just think, you know, there's inflation every
year, so if a number stays the same, we actually lose. But -- so that
covers the aquatic part. But do you have any -- you know, I mean,
this is more of a question. It's like we're just -- we're having healthy
discussion here.
But do you have any concerns that, you know, we're not putting
everything that we can put into our parks, especially when we get
pinged a lot by citizens who go out there and notice things and are
looking for, you know, repair, upgrades, just, you know, sort of
normal operation and maintenance type things? What are your
thoughts?
MR. ISACKSON: What I'm going to throw back at you is
remember that the budget's flexible, and we're always in contact with
the department head, and there are always reserves that are set aside
in the various capital funds. 306 is your Parks Operating Capital
Fund. 346 is your Impact Fee Capital Fund. So if Dan Rodriguez
comes to me and says, look it, that's not enough. I need to do this,
this, and this this year -- and we've done this many times -- Dan will
know this, that we did this when he was at facilities, down in
facilities.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Dan, you heard that back
there? I just wanted to get all this on the record. I kind of knew the
answer, but I wanted to hear it all officially. Okay.
MR. ISACKSON: If Mr. Rodriguez comes to me and provides
a pretty good business case for needing another 500K, let's say, or
this or that --
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COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Right.
MR. ISACKSON: -- then I'll listen.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: And you answered the
question on the water parks. I really wanted to get that on record. I
wasn't sure. I knew that was sort of being dealt with separately, but I
couldn't sort of dig it out of here. So, thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Saunders, and then
Commissioner Solis.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I want to tag a little bit onto
what was just said about the parks, Commissioner LoCastro's
comments. And I've had conversations with Mr. Isackson and some
other folks at the county over the years about the condition of parks,
not looking at District 3 but looking at all of the parks. I'll use
Sugden Park as an example. I've kind of been beating the drum here
for a couple years to really spruce up that park.
There are areas there the grass doesn't grow; there's just weeds.
And it's just -- it's kind of a shame. And the same thing at the
Vineyards Park. There's some issues there. I'm sure there's some
issues in the parks in Immokalee with lighting.
And so I agree with Commissioner LoCastro; we need to beef
up the fund for dealing with our existing parks and improving the
quality of those. Those parks are really the area where our citizens
see how county government really operates. And I've gotten
complaints over the years. And it's been a little frustrating because
I've kind of been beating this drum here for -- literally, for three or
four years, and nothing seems to happen.
So, Commissioner LoCastro, I want to thank you for bringing
that up, and I will second that effort to really take a look at our
existing parks and spruce them up all over the county, all of the
parks.
MR. ISACKSON: I have eyes behind my head, and I suspect
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that Mr. Rodriguez is taking a few notes, so...
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: He's just smiling. He's not
writing it down.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Solis.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: And just so Mr. Rodriguez will
continue to smile, I'd like to agree with my colleagues about the
parks. You know, from Immokalee, the fields in Immokalee, and,
you know, all over the county, I think -- Commissioner Saunders
makes a good point that that's where a lot of people see how well
we're taking -- especially the kids, you know, and how well we're
focused on them.
A couple other things I'd like to ask is, just so -- to set the record
straight, the Pelican Bay funds, 520,000, from the General Fund, that
is the payment that we agreed on the swap of assets, right?
MR. ISACKSON: Yes, that's correct, sir.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Can you -- I just want to make
everybody understand -- make sure that everybody understands what
that is.
MR. ISACKSON: As the Board remembers, we entered into an
asset swap agreement with Pelican Bay a couple years ago. In
exchange for that, they're now responsible for all the sidewalk
infrastructure, lake bank improvements in the district. And recently
you approved the ability for Pelican Bay to draw down on a
commercial paper note, and this gets to their sidewalk improvement
program which has started and is ongoing, and it will also get to their
lake bank improvement program that they have, and also their
refurbishing of a community center, community maintenance facility
that they have there also.
So I hope that answers your question, sir, but it --
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yeah, it does. I mean, these are
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the things that, otherwise, we would be doing directly, but they're
going to take care of that.
The other question I had was the video monitoring system; can
you refresh my memory on what that is?
MR. ISACKSON: Yeah. If you've ever been to the facilities
control center --
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay.
MR. ISACKSON: -- it is a -- it is quite an operation, and --
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Oh, yeah.
MR. ISACKSON: -- and every one of our buildings and
facilities have cameras in them. Well, those cameras need
replacement. They're getting to the point where -- I don't want to say
they're functionally obsolescent, but it's getting to the point where
they need to be replaced. So this is the recognition of starting to
phase that replacement in.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: That's the overall security --
MR. ISACKSON: That's correct, that's correct.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: And just one quick thing.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Excuse me. Commissioner
McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah. And I don't want to
beat the -- I don't want to beat the drum too awful much on the parks,
but one of the things that I found in our level-of-service designations
was we have delineated different levels of service appropriations for
different parks. Regional parks receive a higher priority of level of
service than community parks, and I thank you all for
acknowledging -- and, by the way, just so you know, I've talked to
the PARAB board, Parks and Rec Advisory Board, and asked them to
look into that to level that adjustment so that the priorities for our
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maintenance are spread equally amongst the community, and I think
that will largely help.
Several of you mentioned circumstances that we have going on
in Immokalee and in the east, and if you kind of watch, particularly in
our community parks, things have a tendency to lay around a little bit
more than in our regional parks.
And I'm sure there was merit at some particular point in time.
But Commissioner Saunders said it best; that's one of the places
where local government's graded on a regular basis with folks. So I
did talk with the PARAB board with regard to having a look at so
that we, from a policy standpoint, can make the necessary
adjustments and get the money equally appropriated.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: So I promise, Mr. Isackson,
we'll get off of this one in about 30 seconds. But, you know, really,
just to go on the record, you know, you look at regional parks, and it
actually went down, and when you look at the community parks
funding, it stayed the same. And so to my point of -- with inflation
and higher costs, you know.
But, you know, my final point would be I appreciate what you
say, that there's also emergency funds, and Mr. Rodriguez could go to
you for 500,000, but the reality is when stuff is in this budget here,
it's a promise. It's basically -- it's got teeth. So we always have
emergency things. But, you know, get three Hurricane Irmas and
that 500,000 for Dan Rodriguez isn't around possibly, or something
else emergent.
Now, I know you. You'll say, we'll always find the money, but
when it's here, it's programmed. It's programmed. And just like
you have deeper in this book, these numbers then turn into projects
or, you know, they're allocated for things, so that would just be, you
know, sort of, like, my really strong takeaway is that, you know, one
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of these numbers goes down, the other one stays the same, so that
really means it goes down with inflation and higher costs, and putting
it on here really makes it a promise that we're not just sort of kicking
the can or we'll try to get to it or if we have some extra money. You
know, so I know you appreciate that, and we all do but, you know, if
we're talking today and this is fluid, it would be nice to have it be a
little bit more concrete in those areas that I know we all really care
about. So thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's it, sir?
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yep.
MR. ISACKSON: Moving on. Commissioners, this gives you
your position count in '22. You'll see some of the changes that we
made in '21, and a lot of those changes were executive summary
items that the Board approved during the course of the year. I've got
a little bit different philosophy in that I'd like to bring those items to
you where we're expanding or changing or needing to change our
operations, and I'd like to bring them to you more in executive
summary fashion rather than budget to budget, because sometimes
they lose visibility, so...
Our compensation adjustment, I talked a little bit about that
earlier in the presentation. You can see what $1,000 does to the -- to
the system.
I will tell you that our wage and compensation study will not
produce cheap fixes. You could be in the 6- to 7- to 8-million-dollar
range depending on what we're talking about, and it will be my job
and the staff's job to whittle through that and give you some solid
recommendations on how to appropriate the dollars possibly over two
fiscal years in terms of how we get the pay plan to where we think it
needs to be. So I just wanted to provide that level of caution to the
Board.
Our healthcare program, again, I mentioned that earlier. We
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strive to maintain 80 percent employer, 20 percent employee paid,
and having no increases for nine years certainly puts -- keeps putting
some money back in the pockets of our workforce.
This is our net budget. You see it climbing. That's all in.
Here's the General Fund, and that's the fund where, as every one of
you have pointed out with your recreation comments, is the fund that
provides the services to the most folks, so -- and it's also a
countywide tax.
This is the -- what I will call the pro forma. This is what you're
getting for, essentially, an increase. I see a typo there. I'm going to
look at my staff, and I'm going to chastise them for that. And I can
already hear them in the back going, ooh. But that 34.7 million is
what you're getting for that in terms of the expense side and the
revenue side.
I will note that about 90 percent of our taxable value is
residential in nature. That might be an interesting point for
everybody to know.
Here is our reserves. You can see where they were in 2012, and
you might wonder, well, how the heck did we get through those
years. I don't think we had any natural disasters at that point in time,
so we skated through a little bit in the earlier years, and we're
positioned now to, I think, handle all that we can -- all that we need
to handle going forward.
And that's a little slide on why we strengthen reserves.
These are your outstanding principal debt all in. We've issued some
debt since FY18. And the next follow-on slide talks about where
we're at with our cap of general governmental revenue. It's bondable
general governmental revenue cap, and it's in our Growth
Management Plan. It's grounded in that plan. You can see over the
years where we've actually stood with that.
That little blip in '21 is because we paid off commercial paper
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that was used to buy the sports complex property.
These are revenues in the General Fund. The biggies are ad
valorem taxes, sales taxes, and state-shared revenues.
Commissioners, here's your other revenue sources that are of
importance: Gas taxes, impact fees and, of course, our fund balance,
which I always harp on. It's something I and the staff managed to
during the course of the budget cycle so that we make sure we've got
anywhere between 95 and 100 million in cash at year ending fiscal
year to hold us over until property taxes come in.
The unincorporated area, we sometimes skip that, but it's a fund
that is also contributing substantially to our capital effort.
Here is a pro forma of the unincorporated area and its increase and
what you're getting for that increase.
Finally, Commissioners, these are our challenges. And I look at
the budget document as the significant financial planning tool that
you have. It's akin to the Land Development Code on the planning
side of the house. Everything revolves around the expenditure plan.
And I will tell you that we put a lot of effort into the document. We
can tweak it around the margins. You're fully reserved. Your cash
position is excellent, but that doesn't mean that there aren't challenges
going forward.
We're continually trying to balance the competing priorities of
capital investment, asset management, expanding our service
delivery, new programs and initiatives. I worry at night that at some
point in time we're not going to have the communications services tax
in 111. That's a $5 million hit if we lose that.
So those are things that I think we need to be cognizant of going
forward.
Commissioners, that ends the presentation that I have. I'd be
happy to answer any additional questions.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Seeing none, County Manager.
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There are none.
MR. ISACKSON: Thank you, Commissioners.
COURTS AND RELATED AGENCIES (STATE ATTORNEY
AND PUBLIC DEFENDER)
Commissioners, with that, we'll begin our series of presentations
that we have, and we'll begin with our courts. Mr. Rice, Ms. Fox,
and the team can come up to the podium, and Chuck can kind of brief
the Board on where he's at with his budget and can answer questions.
MR. RICE: Yes, sir. It sounds like I need to be friends with
Dan Rodriguez right now.
Good morning, Madam Chairman and Commissioners. For the
record, my name's Chuck --
MR. MILLER: Speak into your mic, please.
MR. RICE: Oh, I'm sorry. Is that better? Better?
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I think you can even pull it over
more, if you want. If it's easier for you. There we go.
MR. RICE: How's that? Well, good morning again. For the
record, my name's Chuck Rice, Court Administrator here in Collier
County. With me today we have our administrative judge, Joe
Foster, and to his left, State Attorney Amira Fox.
MS. FOX: Good morning, Commissioners.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Good morning.
MR. RICE: And we're here to present to you a $5.7 million
budget which meets budget compliance from the General Fund, we're
happy to say. As always, I'd like to thank Mark and his staff for
their help throughout this process, thank the Commissioner for your
continued support and interest in what the courts do, and I'm happy to
say, as of Monday, the courts are fully open for business to the
public --
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CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's nice.
MR. RICE: -- no restrictions, and we're happy for that, after a
long year and a half of doing stuff that a lot of us thought couldn't be
done.
I'll use Mark's analogy, you know, we're such a large ship, the
court system statewide, and we're governed by the supreme court and
chief justice, but the way we're able to make movements on such
short notice, and as nimble as we became with technology and
everything, I think that's a huge compliment to the Courts,
stakeholders, the Sheriff's Department, and the Clerk of Court. I
mean, really remarkable what we've been able to accomplish in this
year and a half. I'll just make a few remarks and be brief and let the
judge and Amira make comments.
But, right now, one of the important things we were faced with
early on in the pandemic was that we continue with our
problem-solving courts where we service mental health, veterans, and
drug court. We were able to do that and maintain that service to the
public, which is huge, because as you know, during the pandemic
there's a lot of extra needs, and everybody handled it different. So
we're proud of that fact that we're able to continue to do that; we were
able to continue with our Marchman Acts and Baker Acts for the
community.
We also were able to have safe jury trials at a point during the
pandemic. And throughout the circuit, we had held more jury trials
than any circuit in the state of Florida. Here in Collier County we
held over 20 jury trials. And, again, that was working with our chief
judge and our Administrative Judge, State Attorney, Public Defender,
Sheriff, and the Clerk, worked on a weekly basis to meet the
challenges and everything and put the protocols in place to be able to
do that. So outstanding job by all. And we certainly couldn't have
done it without the support from the county staff with facilities and
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such, so...
You know, the pandemic also allowed us to find some
deficiencies in our system, mainly technology. So we're investing
some money in technology, and you'll see this year our budget's gone
up in the technology area and probably will continue to do so in the
next year or so. Now, that money is offset by some revenues. So
you're getting a $5.7 million value for a cost of $3 million to the
General Fund, which is probably a pretty good return on your
investment.
We are making every effort we can to go after pandemic money
from the state to offset the costs from the county. So we'll -- that's
working out very well. We had a pretty good carryforward this year
as well to help out where our budget request.
With that, I'll open up for comments to Judge Foster and then Amira.
JUDGE FOSTER: Good morning, everybody. It's actually a
pleasure to be here. Thank you very much for your time. I won't
take much of it either.
Last year when we were here we were talking to you about the
importance of keeping the courts open during the pandemic.
Obviously, it's very important that we protect everybody's
constitutional rights. And we were talking a little bit about our
safety protocols. Chuck's gone through some of that with you. And
we were very able to keep open, and were very successful, and we're
very pleased about that.
As Chuck mentioned, as of Monday we're opened back up
without restrictions, which is great. We did have a few blips with
the virus, as did everybody else during the past year, but our
protocols worked. I'm very happy to report beyond -- we never had
a case beyond the first. So whoever came into the building with the
virus was the only person who had the virus. We didn't have any
secondary or third that came in through the course of the whole
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epidemic, so we're very excited about that.
I would be remiss, though, while I had you-all here and had the
microphone if I didn't thank some folks. As Chuck was saying, it
took a whole lot of help and support. We had support from the
Florida Supreme Court. We had support from the Florida House, the
Senate, the Governor's Office. We had the support of you-all and
the county government, including the Department of Health, the
judges, the assistants, and our partners in court administration, Collier
County Sheriff's Office Bailiffs Bureau, the Clerk's Office, the State
Attorney's Office, the Public Defender, and the private bar.
Everybody came together. We were creative. We were
flexible. We were adaptive, and everybody maintained their sense
of humor, which was very important, as you all know, as we worked
our way through the changing circumstances and the guidance to
keep ourselves up and running.
I also want to thank the citizens of Collier County. As Chuck
mentioned, we were able to do jury trials. The citizens showed up,
they did their civic duty, they trusted us with their safety and their
health, and we very much appreciate that. And as a result of that, we
were able to keep everything running.
And as I mention to jurors a lot, our system of justice doesn't
work if our citizens don't show up. And so I'm very, very proud of
the folks in Collier County, and I'm very thankful for everybody who
came.
I know all of you -- or lots of you have questions always about
the treatment courts. Chuck touched briefly on it. We did have to
shut down for about eight weeks, but we were able to keep up and
running. So I just thought I'd end with some statistics for you
because you seem to like that.
End of December last year -- our stats go calendar year -- we
had 48 participants in drug court. We had a 61 percent successful
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completion rate last year, and a 24 percent rate of recidivism over a
three-year period of time.
In the mental health court, we had 40 participants at the end of
the year. We had a 67 percent successful completion rate and a
7 percent recidivism rate coming out of the mental health court last
year -- or over a three-year period of time.
And in the veterans treatment court, we had five -- we ended the
year with five participants. We had a 73 percent successful
completion rate and a 17 percent recidivism over a three-year period
of time.
Normal recidivism rate over that period of time is between 65
and 75 percent, and we use the three years because that doesn't mean
that somebody's not going to reoffend after that period of time, but
it's most likely to occur quickly. So we look at a three-year period
of time.
So the treatment courts, they're very labor intensive for everyone
involved; the participants, the judges, the staff. And, frankly, there
are too many partners for me to thank. David Lawrence, probation,
everybody worked really, really hard on that, but they work, and we
know they work. And so I'm very happy to give you the statistics.
And I just wanted to thank you for your continued support of us and
the courts, and particularly in the treatment courts as well.
I am also happy to answer questions, but I'm also happy to sit
here and just smile quietly if you'd like.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner LoCastro, do you
have a question for --
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Not for -- just after the --
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: At the -- yeah.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Let Ms. Fox --
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: What lovely wonderful news. It
works.
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JUDGE FOSTER: It does.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's all you need to say.
Congratulations.
Commissioner Solis.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yeah. If we talk about an ROI to
the community, I mean, that's -- those numbers are amazing. So
thank you for all you do, and the whole staff. It's -- yeah. I don't
even know what to say.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I know. It's just like, phew.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: It's amazing.
JUDGE FOSTER: It's my honor and it's my privilege and,
honestly, it's great working with the participants as well, so yeah.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Thank you.
MS. FOX: Thank you, Commissioner Taylor and
Commissioners. Good morning, again.
So I echo, of course, what Chuck said and what Judge Foster
said. I think we've been immensely successful here in this circuit
and in this county in particular, all our counties in the circuit, in
conquering what we needed to last year in overcoming the challenges
we had during COVID.
And I will tell you this: That we, circuit-wide, have done, since
September of last year, almost 200 jury trials. I think we're hitting
the 200 mark this week, and impaneled two grand juries to indict
first-degree murders in several of our counties. And the citizens, all
five counties, I agree with Judge Foster, I mean, they're just -- they've
just been wonderful. They step up to the plate. They come in when
called for jury duty and, of course, we took every precaution for their
safety. But they could not have been more participatory or willing to
take part in the criminal justice system, and we all know without
them we can't do it.
I'll share with you that I spent some time with other state
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attorneys in the state this week at our annual board meeting and, for
instance, the state attorney in Miami told me that she's feeling pretty
upset because they have done two jury trials --
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Oh, my goodness.
MS. FOX: -- since the beginning of COVID. So that gives
you some comparison to us and how far ahead we are, by far, of other
places in the state, and I think that's because of great leadership from
our commissions and from our judiciary and our court administration.
So I just wanted to thank all the stakeholders because I think it's
made a tremendous difference that we are all a team here, we really
are, and it shows, because other people who don't work as a team
weren't able to get it to that level.
And speaking of team, I want to say this, echoing the success of
our treatment courts: So the Florida Department of Law
Enforcement uniform crime rate statistics came out on Monday, and
I'm extremely happy to report to you-all for the ninth year in a row
the 20th Judicial Circuit was the lowest crime rate in the entire state
of Florida, and by quite a big margin. So I think that we can all
agree that that's a result of really hard work by the stakeholders in the
criminal justice system, by our law enforcement, of course our
Sheriff here, Sheriff Rambosk and his team, and our other sheriffs in
the circuit in law enforcement.
And I think it's also a reflection on what Judge Foster just
mentioned, those statistics. Without those problem-solving courts
where we can take people in the criminal justice system and try to
rehabilitate them instead of the constant Band-Aiding and putting
them through the jail and then back out again, that really has a
dramatic effect on the crime rate, and I think the balance we have
here in our community, with your leadership, of violent people who
hurt other people are going to go away for a long time so they can't
hurt anyone else.
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But the vast majority of the criminal justice system, we work as
stakeholders together to see what else can we do to stop this cycle.
And I really firmly believe that's why we've had the lowest crime rate
for nine years.
So I thank you tremendously for funding our problem-solving
courts. They make a gigantic difference, and I can tell you as the
state attorney, I'm very dedicated to them, as I know our justice
partners are. So thank you.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you.
Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yeah. I just wanted to make
a couple comments.
You know, as a veteran, I mean, I've lived all over the country,
you know, in my last few years. Being a commander, you know,
I've worked with commissions and city councils and chamber of
commerces and even state attorneys. I'm not being overly
patronizing or trying to over-compliment, but I've never seen a state
attorney more visible than you.
MS. FOX: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: And so I just wanted to, you
know, say that publicly, you know, you speaking all over Collier
County and everywhere else, you know, as well. So we don't see
other places that you are. And it really is a reflection of your entire
office. I'm sure when you're gone, everything's still working, you
know, and like you said, it's a great team. But, I mean, I feel like
I've lived in a lot of places. I couldn't even tell you the state
attorney's name in some of the places, you know, or I could pull it off
of the website, and I think that just speaks highly of, you know, how
you're serving.
You know, as a veteran, I really want to throw a -- well, first of
all, levels of recidivism. Never seen those numbers anywhere. So,
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very impressive.
But, you know, Judge Martin and what she's doing with the
veteran’s court is really near and dear to my heart. And I know that
Commissioner Solis has done so much work with mental health, and
so I'm sure he echoes the same thing, not only the low recidivism
rates, but just the hard work.
You know, I do a lot with Wounded Warriors of Collier County,
as does Commissioner Solis and others here, you know, supportive of
them and, you know, the successes that have come out of that court.
So Judge Martin, I know she's not here, but, you know, she's part of
your team and whatnot.
But thank you for all that you do. It's really important, even
when you just show up at events. You know, like even you just
being at Sugden Park, people notice that. And so you could be a
million other places, so I just wanted to thank you, you know, on
behalf of Collier County. You know, you cover the whole state, and
you could be doing so many other things, but to show up to speak to
all those veterans, all those first responders from the stage. You
know, maybe it was just like, you know, five minutes at the mic, but
it means a lot to people. And then they're all asking, who's that?
Who's that? Well, that's your state attorney, you know, and that
means a lot. So, you know, thank you. Keep up the good work.
MS. FOX: Thank you very much. Those issues are near and
dear to my heart, as I'm sure you-all can tell.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Judge Foster, for me and maybe for
the public again, would you please read those statistics.
JUDGE FOSTER: Yes, ma'am, happy to.
In our drug court last year, we ended the year with 48
participants, so that's the number of people that are in at the time.
We had a 61 percent successful completion rate and a 24 percent
recidivism rate.
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For mental health court, last year ended the year with 40
participants; 67 percent successful completion rate and a 7 percent
recidivism rate. And in the veterans treatment court, we ended the
year with five participants, 73 percent successful completion rate, and
a 17 percent recidivism.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you.
JUDGE FOSTER: Certainly.
MS. FOX: That's very good.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: All right. Quit bragging.
Quit bragging. No, I'm just kidding. I would say it's not bragging if
you did it.
JUDGE FOSTER: I'm happy to brag about those numbers.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: It's not bragging if you did it.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: It ain't bragging if it's true. Please
brag some more. It's -- just wow. It's unbelievable.
Congratulations.
JUDGE FOSTER: And, again, it's -- the defendants work
really, really hard, as do the treatment folks, and -- anyway, they're
tough programs, but if you want it -- and I tell all this to the folks
who come in, you know, we want you to be successful. We're going
to work with you. We don't expect you to be perfect. We just
expect you to own your mistakes as anybody would own their
mistakes, and we'll work with you, and that's what we do. So it's
great.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Well done. Thank you very much.
Any other questions?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you very much.
MR. RICE: Thank you.
JUDGE FOSTER: You guys have a great day.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: You guys have a lovely day.
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MS. FOX: Thank you.
MR. ISACKSON: Thank you.
GROWTH MANAGEMENT
MR. ISACKSON: Next up, Commissioners, you have
Ms. Trinity Scott, Mr. Jamie French, Mr. Gene Shue, Mr. Ken
Kovensky of your Growth Management Department.
MS. SCOTT: Good morning, Commissioners. I'll start this
morning. I'm Trinity Scott, your Deputy Department Head of the
Growth Management Department.
With the bifurcation of GMD, I'm now responsible for capital
project planning inclusive of stormwater management and coastal
zone, road maintenance, transportation engineering and construction
management, and operations support, which also include the county's
three airports.
With me today I have Gene Shue, director of Operations
Support, and Mr. Chris Johnson, our Financial and Operations
Support manager.
I will keep my comments brief, as you have a long agenda with
numerous important areas to address today. In this section of GMD,
we currently have just under 300 staff members who dedicate their
professional lives to supporting the vision of this board as directed by
our County Manager.
Our funding sources are as diverse as our projects and come
from tourist development funds to grants, ad valorem, gas taxes,
impact fees, infrastructure sales tax, and did I mention grants?
The County Manager has done an excellent job of highlighting
our plans to continue providing exceptional services for the residents
and visitors of Collier County. I would like to mention a few items
of importance that are expected to begin over the upcoming budget
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period. Fifteen years in the making, Vanderbilt Beach Road
extension from Collier Boulevard to 16th Street Northeast is expected
to begin construction in Fiscal Year '22. This roadway will provide
an additional manner of egress and ingress to first responders and
those living or having business in eastern Collier County and will
provide relief to parallel roadways such as Immokalee Road and
Golden Gate Boulevard.
The Immokalee Complete Streets Transportation Investment
Generating Economic Recovery, or TIGER, as we call it, which
consists of nearly 20 miles of sidewalk and drainage improvements
and transit improvements in the Immokalee area, which will be a
transformational project for Immokalee, is anticipated to begin
construction in the upcoming fiscal year.
And, finally, the Fiscal Year '22 budget continues to improve the
maintenance of your stormwater system to protect life, property, and
improve water quality. GMD Capital Project Planning staff continue
to partner with both the City of Naples and Collier County Public
Utilities to leverage our funds for cohesive projects that reduce
construction disruption. An additional value add that we are
incorporating is planning for future sidewalks for these projects and
incorporating them into the design to ensure that our improvements
today do not preclude sidewalk construction in the future.
With that, I will close my comments and turn it over to James
French to cover the operations and regulatory areas of GMD, and
Mr. Shue, Mr. Johnson, and I will be available for questions.
MR. FRENCH: Good morning, Commissioners. For the
record, I'm Jamie French. I represent your regulatory and
enforcement arm of Growth Management. Many times we're asked,
what do you do on North Horseshoe? So we're your planning,
environmental, building, code enforcement, and licensing arm of
your local government.
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The Development Services element of Growth Management is
comprised of six division directors with an operating budget -- and I
stress the word an "operating budget" because we don't have capital,
we don't build things -- of approximately $70 million.
We are primarily funded by enterprise-based dollars that we
collect. Now, these are restricted-use funds that we can only use to
carry out our mission and to perform those services. They cannot be
used for any other general government type of service or capital item,
and that's by statute, of course.
With limited dependency, this group operates on General Fund
contributions. It's about a 90 to 10 split. So about 10 percent of our
operating budget comes from the General Fund, and that's primarily
composed of your code enforcement and of your Comprehensive
Planning neighborhood studies type of elements. Those sections
funded by the General Fund have met the budget guidance outlined
by the County Manager's Office and the Board of County
Commissioners.
Our reserves and our Enterprise Funds are well established, as
business has been exceptionally strong. These reserves include the
appropriate allowances, as the County Manager had mentioned, for
fees prepaid for future services owed to our applicants. We have
experienced significant growth in permitting volume, and June will
mark the fourth consecutive month processing more than 6,000
permits. This volume represents an approximate 40 percent increase
over this same time last year and a 30 percent increase over this same
time in 2019.
So to meet this rising demand and address the review and
inspection deadlines, your staff has been working many nights and
weekends, holidays, and senior leadership continues to strategically
support alternative operating approaches and bringing on any
available resources through our professionally licensed staff
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augmentation contracts and temporary staffing agencies.
As a result of this move and in addition to our already approved
FTE counts, we are currently employing at any given time 60 to 70
contract or job bank type of -- our contracted services. Over the next
few months we'll be looking at our organization to determine the
appropriate long-term permanent staffing solutions or staffing levels
and available process enhancements with our industry for long-term
sustainable solutions that will continue to better serve our community
and maintain statutorily required business and community
expectations.
We continue to streamline our permitting operation, and since
April we've moved to 100 percent electronic permitting for all of our
business elements.
And there are future initiatives underway to improve our
customers' experience when applying for a permit, such as a
self-issuing permit offering for certain types of work and redesigning
and simplifying current application workflows within our public
portal.
To better assist the contractor community, a video inspection
program was developed earlier this year and implemented for the
building division that allows for both recorded and virtual video
inspections.
Our Code Enforcement division remains committed to life,
safety, and the well-being of our community through education,
cooperation, and compliance. This team conducted 14 community
meetings, nine educational meet and greets, and seven community
cleanups throughout the county.
And please note that with any success of any of our programs,
we give a great deal of appreciation and understanding to our
partners. Through the County Attorney's Office, the Collier County
Sheriff's Office, your constitutional officers, state agencies as well as
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your County Manager's Office, we could not achieve any level of
success along with the community without their partnership.
Our budget is adequately sized to accommodate upcoming land-use
activities including current and future studies or restudies, peer
reviews, master plans implementations, redistricting, and LDC
amendments.
Commissioners, there have been no requests or approved
increases in any of our fees since 2009. Instead, the County
Manager's Office and the industry has continued to challenge us and
support us with new service delivery approaches, and the Board of
County Commissioners has approved numerous staff-initiated fee
decreases resulting in our enhanced efficiencies. These last two
decreases since Fiscal Year '17 have resulted in an aggregate savings
of better than $7 million back to our consumers.
Finally, and much to our mission statement, the Community
Development element of Growth Management is committed to the
resiliency and long-term protection of our natural built resources, our
environment, through professional planning efforts, application of
existing code, and well thought-out approaches to our unique
environmental and economic challenges.
Through our efficient business practices, we've been able to
maintain a reliable level of service, and as a participating community
in the National Flood Insurance Program, Collier County has retained
its current rating of a Class 5 community in the National Flood
Insurance policy community rating system. This classify of rating
resulted in a 25 percent discount on all flood insurance premiums for
NFIP policies issued or renewed in special flood hazard areas since
May 1st of 2020. This savings essentially translates into greater than
$7.8 million spread amongst 70,000 flood insurance policies in
unincorporated Collier County within the unincorporated areas, as I
said. And here's the kicker. All of these services that we designed
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in-house were done at no additional cost to the General Fund and no
additional fee to the already fees collected. We built them into the
programs.
We appreciate our community partners, the County Manager's
agency, and the Board's continued level of support to our mission but
are always aware it's the ladies and gentlemen, our colleagues,
working in all aspects of our business that make us successful.
Thank you for your time this morning.
Mr. Kovensky, your Financial Operations and Regulatory
Management director for our Community Development element, is
available for any questions, and I, of course.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Jamie, I had one question,
and you brought up flood -- you know, flood zones and flood
insurance. And this isn't really a budget question but, you know, just
because you're sitting right here.
Recently I met with some folks that work very closely with
FEMA, and FEMA has re-drawn the flood maps since Irma. You
know, just for -- you know, like I said, just for convenience because
you're sitting right here, do you have an update for us on -- because it
does dovetail into, then, your department. And I was hearing sort of
cryptic type of things of when those maps might be released and then,
of course, different organizations challenged the drawing of the maps
because the expectation is they're going to be much more aggressive,
thus raising the flood insurance fees and whatnot. Somebody that
was living in an area that was sort of semi-orange is now red or, you
know, that sort of thing. Just didn't know if you had any sort of
latest intel at all on that topic since it sort of falls in your job jar
eventually.
MR. FRENCH: Sure. It's within our house. So what happens
is that FEMA comes through. They update their flood maps
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periodically. And, essentially, once those maps are filed, once that
data's filed with the national registry, it opens up an appeal period.
The appeal period just closed.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Oh, it did? Okay.
MR. FRENCH: Yes, sir. And so Collier County, we do have
an outside consultant through Tomasello Engineering. We have
reviewed their maps. We have some questions. We've challenged
them in some of the areas. And the latest revisions to the map were
predominately coastal. They were not the inland.
We're still working on challenges on the maps from about 12
years ago. So we've -- we go off the best available data, and that's
how we enforce the flood maps based off FEMA, but we are still in
challenge periods that date back better than 10 years with Tomasello.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Is there a timeline where
you're hearing where the maps, eventually, it looks like they'd go
final and then all appeals are over, too bad, so sad, this is the map,
and then this is what everybody uses for insurance and evacuation
and all those kind of things? Do you know what that window is, or
is it drifting back and back because of all the challenges?
MR. FRENCH: That's certainly a fair question but, sir, it's
dependent upon the funding that FEMA receives.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Okay.
MR. FRENCH: And so that's why we've been where we've
been for probably the last 10 or 12 years.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Two quick questions. The
25 percent discount, that is the maximum that's permitted; isn't that
correct?
MR. FRENCH: No, sir. So for every drop in level it's reverse.
So if we got all the way down to a 1, you would receive -- it's 5
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percent per level. So 25 percent -- there's only a handful of Class 5
communities in the country. Now, what's unique about Collier is
that we are the only Class 5 community where a good majority of our
entire county is considered a special flood hazard area. We have the
largest special flood hazard area considerations. And we recently
went through an audit that ended back in probably around January
through ISO. They took us all the way to Portland because they felt
like there was something wrong with our numbers.
And they found that we were -- we were well within our Class 5
community rating. But you can -- a Class 1 community, they do
exist. They're probably sitting at about an elevation of 8- to
11,000 feet, but -- it would be hard to get there from here, sir.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: The reason I mention it is I
wanted to brag a little bit -- on you a little bit about getting that
25 percent, because I don't believe there's any higher amount you
could get, and maybe you've just kind of verified that, unless we
build some mountains here.
And the second question I wanted to raise is, there's been some
complaints in the past over backlog and permitting, getting permits
out, getting inspections done. And from what I understand, you've
solved that problem; is that fair to say or --
MR. FRENCH: Sir, we've given it a good effort. I've -- as you
know, I've been back at the head of the group in North Horseshoe.
And with the County Manager's support, we've been able to take
some alternative approaches, like I mentioned earlier. We were
about a month to a month-and-a-half behind on processing permits.
Typically we run about 100 permits per day behind. Because we are
open 24 hours a day, seven days a week online, we average now
somewhere between 80 and 90 per day. So we caught up in
probably about three weeks.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Okay. So you're -- in terms
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of keeping up with the demand, you're in good shape, and you've
done a -- your team's done a great job in eliminating those backlogs?
MR. FRENCH: Yes, sir. And as I mentioned, we're looking at
long-term solutions, but we've certainly found a short-term fix.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Solis.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Just very quickly, can you run
through those statistics again. In terms of the number of permits,
we're how far ahead of 2019 at this point? 2019 was a big year,
right?
MR. FRENCH: It was. So we're 30 percent this time last year
above 2019 numbers and 40 percent above 2020.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: That's unbelievable.
And I know you and I had had a couple of conversations, and I
was glad to hear about the compensation plan because, I mean, one of
the problems that you have is finding and then mainly retaining
licensed professionals to do the kinds of inspections and things that
we need, right? That's one of the challenges you have?
MR. FRENCH: Yes, sir. And, in fact, you as a board two
years ago approved 10 new FTEs for our group, and it was building
inspectors, and it took us better than a year to fill all those positions.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yeah, okay. That's all good.
Thanks.
Commissioner McDaniel?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'm not quite sure. I think
it's probably Jamie, because you and I have had this conversation in
the past.
There's a substantive increase in reserves, and I believe that has
largely to do with the large increase in services and permitting and so
on and so forth.
And, again, my question is is, how can we be more reactive to
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our operating expenses and not retroactively going back and reducing
fees on an after-the-fact three-year basis?
MR. FRENCH: So, essentially, Commissioner, as I've
presented before, we do a fee study about every five years, and we
true up what the actual cost is to perform the work versus what we
charge, and we measure up quite well. But what we're seeing is that
with commodities -- with the commodities market responding very
slowly and construction projects are taking longer, the applications
are not -- they're applying -- and we've got jobs that are in the queue
where a contractor will explain to us that they could be 12 to 18
months out before they anticipate completion. So when we collect
those fees, we have an obligation to provide that service.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah, I wasn't talking about
the reserve for a future -- I mean, I'm looking up above, and for
prepaid services I understand that. This is -- and maybe -- and if we
need to have this conversation in private off-line, I don't need to take
an enormous amount of time for this. It's just -- it seems like -- and
it's easy for us to get caught up in the economy of today and the
increase and the prices of houses. They're all impacts on how we get
along every single day, but this is a long-term -- the economy hasn't
gone up or gone down before. We live with this in all of our lives
every single day. So I just -- I'd like to have maybe an off-line
conversation --
MR. FRENCH: Okay.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- about how we can have a
look at this and not -- because since I became the commissioner, I
know we have retroactively gone back and looked at the fee structure
and reduced them because we found out we were charging too much.
And so that's my point.
MR. FRENCH: And I appreciate the question, sir, and we're
happy to have that conversation with you.
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CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you very much. That's it.
MR. MILLER: Madam Chair, I did have a registered public
comment for this section, for the Growth Management section online,
Mr. Michael Mogil. Mr. Mogil, you should be prompted to unmute
yourself at this time. I don't see him unmuting.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: While we're waiting, Gene,
you want to tell us everything we need to know about airports?
MR. SHUE: Very briefly, it wasn't too long ago we were
sitting here, and we were requiring a 3- to $500,000 subsidy from the
General Fund for operations and 100 percent of subsidy for our
match related to capital projects. I'm happy to say that next year will
be the eighth consecutive year in which we're self-sufficient on an
operating side, and I don't see us ever going back to needing capital
support -- or operating support. And the FY22 budget is the first
that I can recall where there is no need for any subsidy from the
General Fund for any capital projects, and for as far out as I go,
looking out 10 years, I don't believe we'll have a need for the
foreseeable future either. So we're doing great.
One other thing to mention, I just learned yesterday, as a matter
of fact, that the Marco airport has been nominated by FDOT as the
General Aviation Airport of the Year. The Marco terminal has also
been nominated as the Capital Project of the Year. They'll announce
the winners -- General Aviation Project of the Year. They'll be
announcing the winners in about three weeks at the annual
conference that they're hosting up in Jacksonville, but I fully expect
to win one or both of those.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Oh, wonderful.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Nice.
MR. MILLER: All right. Madam Chair, I had a Zoom issue
here. I think my operator's back. Let's try Mr. Mogil again.
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Mr. Mogil, you should be getting prompted to unmute yourself
at this time, if you will do so. There you go. Mr. Mogil, you have
three minutes, sir.
MR. MOGIL: Yeah, thank you.
So glad I'm here remotely and I don't have to sit there for five
years. Appreciate this.
So I'll be relatively brief. My biggest question regarding this
development in Collier County is that we keep pushing east toward
undeveloped lands, and sooner or later we're going to start paving
them over with roads and sidewalks and shopping centers and roofs
and other impervious surfaces.
I've made this comment to the county before. As a
meteorologist, I'm well aware of flooding and other things. And the
last thing I want is Collier County to be as impervious as Houston,
Texas.
But I just wonder whether the county has a district-by-district
handle on the amount of impervious surface that we have in Collier
County, and if this is something that might help us better plan and
better develop alternatives to just building more stormwater
management. Could we do better by putting in some small forest
stands, perhaps some more grass areas or parks, other things that
would allow water to penetrate into the groundwater system instead
of trying to drain it off to other places?
I don't know that those are necessarily the solutions, but I'm just
curious as to the amount of impervious surface that we have among
the five districts that are represented on the dais today to have some
idea of just how much impervious surface we have in Collier County.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you very much.
MS. SCOTT: Would you like us to respond back to
Mr. Mogil? We can --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: No.
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CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yeah, I think that would be very
helpful.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Well, I think we already
pretty much have that from the stormwater utility fee that came
through a couple of years ago. With a click --
MS. SCOTT: We will connect with him off-line.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I wasn't being disrespectful
by not responding now, but we can -- certainly now is not the time
and place for that, so...
MR. ISACKSON: Thank you, Commissioners.
PUBLIC SERVICES
MR. ISACKSON: Your next department, your Public Services
Department, Mr. Rodriguez and his staff.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Good morning, Commissioners. For the
record, Dan Rodriguez, your Public Services Department Head.
Thank you for the opportunity to come to you and speak about
the services here, public services, as well as the highlight of the
budget.
Before I get started, I want to the -- thank you and the County
Manager for what I consider a very smooth transition to Public
Services. It's been my pleasure to work with the directors, the
managers but, most importantly, work with the frontline staff
members here in public services. I've had the great opportunity the
last 45 days to meet with over 200 employees in the field and really
see the great work that they're doing, and it's certainly my pleasure.
Thank you.
So, Commissioners, we've met your budget guidance including
meeting new debt-service obligations and maintaining healthy
reserves to the levels of $44 million and returning to full
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pre-pandemic service levels.
As you are well aware, the department is heavily reliant on
several funding sources, including the General Fund, the
Unincorporated General Fund, impact fees, tourist development tax,
state and federal grant funds, and special tax levies, and our own
program-generated revenue of over $9 million each year. This
funding supports a $145 million operating budget of our 10 divisions,
and the additional $40 million in capital programs with 69 active
large projects.
And in defense of our County Manager but also our budget
director and Susan Usher, we have some money, Commissioners, and
we're working on the execution of those projects and programs. We
currently, in this fiscal year, have $11 million of projects that are in
the works. Some need a little more attention than the others, but
we're going to execute. And I've had the pleasure of working with
Mark over the last 19 years in facilities, and I have yet for him to say
no to me when I delivered a business case for a need.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: We'll see how that goes.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: See how that works, right? For the
record, he's never said no.
So with that, the department is now organized with a central
financial and operational management division providing cooperative
planning -- financial planning and management to support the
mission of each division, and that's really the challenge, to find out
from each division what are the priorities; what's first, next, and last
so that we can follow the Board direction and our County Manager to
execute.
In Fiscal Year '22, the department will continue to provide a
wide variety of high-quality public services to all residents and
visitors of our county.
Some highlights include planning for and hosting over
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2.7 million visitors to our parks, libraries, and museums.
We will also expand our park offerings this year with the
opening of the Big Corkscrew Island Regional Park --
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Here, here.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Absolutely -- featuring aquatics, baseball
and soccer fields, and the largest playground in the county, and many
other desirable amenities.
Your Conservation Collier team will begin acquiring and
managing additional environmentally sensitive lands following the
passage of the Conservation Collier re-establishment referendum in
November of 2020. Conservation Collier currently owns 4,300
acres, and they plan to acquire another 250 acres at FY22 with a land
acquisition budget of about $13 million. Several hundred acres are
under consideration, and purchase recommendations will be
presented to you, the Board, and the County Manager for your
consideration.
We will continue to facilitate the distribution of more than
$150 million in grant funding to our community for pandemic
response, human services, senior services, and affordable housing.
In a moment I'll ask Kristie Sonntag to provide a high-level summary
for you.
Our department will continue to invest in its assets and
infrastructure by deploying the $20 million bond-funded restoration
for parks aquatics and other amenities. And good news, we will be
opening the Sun-N-Fun in July that's been shut down for a while, as
well as some other pool features.
Commissioners, the Golden Gate Senior Center renovation
expansion is underway with local, state, and federal forces -- funding
sources.
Your Collier Area Transit division is committed to providing
safe, accessible, and courteous public transportation services to our
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customers. We provide essential transportation service to over a
million trips annually to the general public and special-needs
population. The delivery of service is supplemented with state and
federal grants equaling approximately 45 percent of the total
operating expenditure, providing relief to the General Fund.
Your Domestic Animal Services team will maintain a stellar
animal live release rate of over 90 percent. Spay/neuters for the
county will exceed 2,200 animals and facilitates over 2,500 animal
adoptions or transfers.
We will enforce our Animal Control Ordinance, and we will
also amend and improve the Animal Control Ordinance to ensure safe
management and handling of domestic animals while fostering local
businesses in that industry, and we will increase low-cost vaccine
clinics for the public.
Our University Extension Service Division, in concert with the
University of Florida, will deliver research-based programming in the
areas of agriculture, marine sciences, urban and commercial
horticulture, family consumer science, and 4H youth development.
These services are provided by experts in their fields of horticulture,
dietetics, sustainability, zoology, and child development.
Further, we will continue our long and effective partnership with
the Florida Department of Health to support a vital and healthy
community. They will continue their COVID-19 programs of
testing, contact tracing, vaccinations, and extensive public health
education.
Our veteran systems team continued outstanding service to our
veterans during the pandemic by migrating to an online phone service
model that delighted our clients, and the outreach efforts continued as
well.
In Fiscal Year '22, we will assist over 3,000 veterans and their
dependents in completing their benefits claims with the Veterans
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Administration, and we'll place further emphasis on outreach events
and social media to reach even more veterans.
We are working with the Tax Collector's Office to potentially
have one of our veteran service officers stationed at our new Heritage
Bay government center when it opens later this year.
Kristie.
MS. SONNTAG: Good morning, Commissioners. Kristie
Sonntag, your Community and Human Services Director. Thank
you for the opportunity to discuss our upcoming grants for Fiscal
Year '22.
As Mr. Rodriguez mentioned, Community and Human Services
will administer approximately $156 million in grant funds this
upcoming year which represents 87 unique grant awards to the
county. The grant funds are dedicated to a variety of services that
will benefit our citizens, including $75 million in COVID funding,
which will provide support to small businesses, not for profits,
individuals, health and mental health agencies.
There's also $5 million in grant funding to support housing for
low to moderate income persons, 20 million from housing and urban
development grants to support the homeless, housing development,
and public services, as well as public facilities. And we also
received an additional 20 million in emergency rental assistance to
support landlords and tenants.
In addition, we were recently awarded $6 million in Irma grant
disaster funding that will benefit three projects in Immokalee and the
Golden Gate Senior Center. We continue to administer $2 million in
criminal justice grants, 3-and-a-half million dollars in grants that
benefit seniors in our community and, of course, we administer
$24 million in other public service department grants.
So you can see grants make an overall tremendous benefit to our
community and provide a tremendous amount of support. Thank
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you.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Thank you, Kristie.
Commissioners, here in public services, our team members
continue to rise to the occasion and provide stellar service. This was
on display more than ever during our response to the pandemic where
multiple service model adaptations were successfully deployed.
Our focus every day is improving quality of life for residents
and visitors, and I am confident to assure you that we will continue to
do so even with the challenges we all face of increasing operating
costs and meeting the appropriately high demands of our citizens.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you very much. Any
questions?
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: I have a question.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: It's obviously -- we talked
about parks. I'll move on. Okay.
Domestic Animal Services and what we're doing to take a look
at the directives, the county directives, and tighten up some things, I
mean -- and I'll just cut to the chase. And I've talked with you-all
separately but, you know, I want to go on the record here.
We had a roomful of animal welfare supporters and people on
both sides of the fence a year or so ago. Let's not let -- and I don't
call it the Petland issue, because there's other -- there's other
businesses and whatnot. But in the end, you know, we deserve to
have good ordinances that have teeth in them that we can enforce.
As you know, you know, we have county employees that have gone
out to some of these places, written plenty of citations. Citations
come back to us, then there's some gray areas, and this and that.
If I was one of those employees spending the day in the heat
going out and trying to do my job and then came back and found out
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that nothing came of it -- so I know that the ordinances and things
that we're trying to tighten up and put the right verbiage and
everything but, you know, let's make that a priority. Let's -- you
know, let's put that thing to bed, have something that we're proud of
here in the county, and then let the dust fall where it may.
If, you know, we have a business in town then that has to, you
know, overhaul some of their practices, great, you know, then they
have to do it. If they're in compliance, great. But, you know, I just
want to mention that. You know, it seems like, you know, that's
gotten a little bit dusty and everybody's sort of forgotten about it by
COVID but, you know, it was a pretty passionate issue and, you
know, there again, it's in your job jar, and all of ours. And I know
we're working on it but, you know, we're not launching the space
shuttle here or building an international space station.
I mean, if the ordinance, which is only a few pages, needs some
extra teeth, you know, let's get it in there, or if it needs clarification,
let's get it in there. And I know you-all are working on it but, you
know, let's do that sooner than later so that our employees that are
going out and doing the business of the county and trying to do the
enforcement of, you know, the ordinance -- if it comes back here and
then, like I said, it dies, I can't imagine that they're happy about that.
You know, it doesn't give them air speed to basically do their jobs,
so...
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Absolutely, Commissioner. And we're
on that, and I have clear direction from the County Manager to get
this resolved. And we've been working with the County Attorney.
We actually have our first draft that we'll go take before the DAS
committee here within the next month.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Oh, look at you. Okay,
good.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: It's Darcy and her team and a collective
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group. But, again, it's taking the personalities out of it. It's truly
about the care and welfare of the animals and conducting a business
that's conducive to their care. And 96 percent of that ordinance is
just definitions and updating with the state. There's a small
percentage that speaks about the cages and size. We'll take care of
that, bring it to you, and I think you'll be happy with the product.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Great. Thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: So just a -- I just have a question.
Seventeen thousand volunteer hours, am I hearing this, over a year's
time of the volunteers that come to Domestic Animal Services?
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Absolutely. Darcy and her team --
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Wow.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: -- they just do a great job of embracing the
volunteers and bringing them in and getting help to take care of those
animals, absolutely. If you go there on any given day, you'll see 20,
30 people; 15, 10 walking around, carrying pets, cleaning them,
cleaning their kennels and enjoying it, so...
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: They are to be commended. I mean,
that shows us tremendous community support for what we do.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: It speaks volumes to Darcy and her
commitment to truly caring about the animals, but also her staff.
She's found key people that that's their lifelong dream is to care for
animals.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: And if we were doing anything
wrong, we'd know about it, and it's seamless over there. You never
hear anything. In fact, it's -- people are smiling. I've gone there
several times. I mean, it's just -- it's really congratulations. Really.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Thank you. We'll pass that on.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: All right. Thank you very much.
We have public comment.
MR. MILLER: Madam Chair, I do have one registered public
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comment. Mr. H. Michael Mogil -- oh, I'm sorry. That's the wrong
person. David Jaye.
Mr. Jaye, you're being prompted to unmute yourself, if you'll do
so at this time. Mr. Jaye, are you -- are you with us? We're sending
you a prompt to unmute, sir.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I have all my Zoom guys here, so I
know it's not on our end this time.
David Jaye, are you with us, sir?
(No response.)
MR. MILLER: All right. Madam Chair, he is registered to
speak on several items, so he'll have a chance later on in the day.
Thank you, ma'am.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's fine. Thank you very much.
And I think we have a well-deserved court reporter break. Thank
you very much. We'll reconvene in 10 minutes, if that's okay. So
let's make it 10:45 today. Thank you.
(A brief recess was had from 10:33 a.m. to 10:45 a.m.)
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES
MR. ISACKSON: Madam Chair, you have a live mic.
Next up is Admin Services which, as the Board knows, under our
restructuring, has now been collapsed under the County Manager's
operation. Sean Callahan and Edwin Finn will address and answer
any questions you might have on that section.
MR. CALLAHAN: Good morning, Commissioners. For the
record, Sean Callahan, Deputy County Manager.
As the Manager stated, we have begun to move the
Administrative Services support division under the guidance of the
Office of the County Manager.
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Today what you have in front of you is a $145 million operating
budget of which about -- impact to the General Fund is about
$30 million. Three hundred sixty-six employees in the department.
The Manager's been very instructive on what he wants this budget to
accomplish. I think it's three things: One, a commitment to public
safety; two, an investment in our own people; and, three, mitigation
of risk and increased service throughout the agency.
I believe that the County Manager covered most of the salient
points in his presentation earlier, but I would like to highlight just a
few.
In EMS, we are negotiating a new pay plan with that bargaining
unit that we hope to have in front of you on your July agenda which
we believe will address some of the issues with vacancies and
staffing that they have there.
Throughout the full agency, we are in the process of updating
our pay and classification plan that we have to have done this year
that will make us marketable in recruiting throughout the market,
improving our workforce. And then we've been very aggressive
with our information technology capital investment to mitigate the
risk throughout the agency from increased data protection and cyber
risk that's there.
So I'd like to highlight those three, and if you have any questions
about the budget in particular, myself and the director of our Office
of Management and Budget are available to answer them.
MR. FINN: Thank you, Sean. Edward Finn, OMB Director.
This budget's pretty straightforward. The highlights that Sean
mentioned are all reflected in the budget. There are some increases,
particularly in the EMS side to accommodate some of that adjustment
that's necessary, as well as some critical equipment needs, including a
new reserve for the new helicopter.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: All right. I don't see any questions
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up here. Thank you very much for your presentation. No public
comment. Thank you.
MR. FINN: Thank you so much.
MR. CALLAHAN: Thank you for your time.
PUBLIC UTILITIES
MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, next is
Mr. Yilmaz -- Dr. Yilmaz, Joe Bellone, and Amia Curry, your Public
Utilities section, please. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Good morning.
MR. CURRY: Good morning.
MR. BELLONE: Good morning.
DR. YILMAZ: Good morning, Commissioners and County
Manager. For the record, George Yilmaz.
We have met your budget guidance as you have approved as our
governing board and Board of County Commissioners, and we have
met our County Manager's expectations, and we're here to inform you
that we have appropriated funding to continue outstanding
life-sustaining mission-critical services 24/7, over 240,000 customers
that we have and we have been serving, and our customer base, as
you know, growing.
Our financial team here, to summarize highlights on three
business units: Collier County Water/Sewer District, which is an
enterprise business operation and fund; Collier County Solid Waste
Districts 1 and 2, also enterprise business operations and fund; and
general government facilities management, including our
constitutionals, mostly funded by our General Fund.
With that, I'm going to request Amia Curry, who just recently
got her MBA, our Financial and Operations Support manager, will
address the highlights. Ma'am.
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MS. CURRY: Thank you, George.
Good morning, Commissioners. My name is Amia Curry, the
manager of Financial and Operational Support for the Public Utilities
Department.
I'll begin with the water/sewer district. The district is budgeted
revenue centric, and it meets your Board-approved budget guidelines.
It is an enterprise fund, so it receives its revenues from fees for
services, and those support compliant operations, provide for a
critical capital repair and rehabilitation program, and meet our debt
obligations and bond covenants.
Our revenues were prepared utilizing a 2.9 percent rate increase
which, combined with our customer growth, is anticipated to generate
4.7 million over the FY21 budget.
This budget is set to produce 9.8 billion gallons of water, treat 8
billion gallons of wastewater, and distribute 5.8 billion gallons of
reclaimed irrigation-quality water.
Our expenses are pay-go. They include an operating element of
116.8 million, and that includes 468 FTEs; and a capital improvement
program of 57.1 million that's focused on the renewal and
replacement of $1.6 billion in aging infrastructure in alignment with
our Enterprise Asset Management Program.
Significant capital projects for '22 include the utility
replacement program in Naples Park in coordination with
stormwater, the wastewater western interconnect, and the Goodland
pump station improvements.
Our unrestricted reserves of 30.9 million represent 62 days of
operating and capital funds.
And at the beginning of FY22, our current outstanding debt will
be approximately 223 million with debt service of 21.7 million. The
district has held the highest bond rating possible, that's triple A, from
Fitch since 2014 and from Moody since 2019. And as you know,
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maintaining these investment-grade credit ratings benefits our
ratepayers by allowing the utility to borrow at favorable interest rates
when necessary.
Next is the Solid and Hazardous Waste Management Division.
This budget is also revenue centric, it maintains no external debt, and
it meets the Board-approved budget guidelines as well. It's also an
enterprise fund receiving fees for services for its revenue. And the
revenues were prepared utilizing a 2.9 percent tipping fee increase
and 2 percent non-ad valorem assessment increase for the residential
curbside collection.
This budget is set to provide 14.2 million curbside collections,
manage about 300,000 tons of municipal solid waste, and dispose of
2.6 million pounds of household hazardous waste. Twice-weekly
collection of garbage and weekly collection of recycling and yard
waste services are provided to approximately 400,000 Collier
citizens.
Expenses are pay-go. They include an operating element of
51.3 million, including 47 FTEs, and a capital improvement program
of 3.4 million that includes improvements to the Immokalee solid
waste facility as well as completion of the deep injection well.
Unrestricted reserves of 11.1 million represent 70 days of operating
and capital funds, and restricted reserves for emergency debris
removal total 8.8 million.
Finally, we have our Facilities Management Division budget.
This budget also meets the Board-approved budget guidelines, and
it's a General Fund operation dedicated to providing secure, clean,
and comfortable facilities for the Board agency and our
constitutionals.
This budget is set to maintain almost 5 million square feet of
government facilities, and expenses include an operating element of
17.6 million including 76 FTEs, of which one million is funded by
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fees for services and the capital program of eight million includes
projects for video monitoring security system replacement and
heating, ventilation, air conditioning, fire alarms, life safety, and
general building repairs.
The one-cent sales tax projects also fall within this division
services, and they'll continue into '22 with a remaining value of about
74-and-a-half million.
In closing, Public Utilities' budgets for our three business units
meet Board-approved budget guidelines, and Joe Bellone, our chief
financial officer, will address potential funding impacts.
MR. BELLONE: Thanks, Amia.
For the record, Joe Bellone, Director of Utilities Finance. And
I've never had this opportunity before, and I will take it up right now.
I've never had -- 18 years in Collier County in Utilities, never had a
County Manager stand up and say, Joe Bellone, corrected me in my
memo. So thank you, Mark, I really appreciate that. We have some
great spirited conversations.
As Amia mentioned during her discussion, that we did create
this water/sewer district revenue budget using a 2.9 percent rate
increase across the board for water, wastewater, and irrigation-quality
water.
You will see at your July 13th board meeting another item for a
rate study that we completed a little bit earlier this year that has some
different rates, a little bit higher, as Mark included in his intro memo
to you. And we'll have a discussion about that and set some policy
at that meeting.
I do think that it's important to note that the budget -- the
water/sewer district budget, set as it is, provides, as Amia said, a
$57 million capital budget for water and sewer infrastructure repair
and rehabilitation. That's just a little shy of what we've been able to
do annually. We've been able to do about 60 million annually. This
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is just a little bit shy of that.
And I just think it's important as we talk about rates eventually
and we talk about any federal funding for the utility, what the utility
faces coming up in the next couple of years in terms of rehabilitation.
It includes, as of today, an additional 101 miles of asbestos cement
water main out of about 1,128 miles of water main.
Mainly in the older sections of the utility, Naples Park, Naples
Manor, Lely, Palm River, and I think we know where those are.
We have 27 miles of thin-walled PVC pipe worth about $42 million,
and those are all within Golden Gate City. There's 113 miles of clay
sewer mains out of about 732 miles. Pretty significant investment.
About 226 miles.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I'm sorry. How many miles?
MR. BELLONE: One hundred thirteen miles of clay sewer out
of 732 miles of sewer mains.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Wow.
MR. BELLONE: And out of 136 wastewater air release values,
the valves that let the methane gas come out to keep wastewater
flowing, about 120 of those need rehabilitation. If you do the math
on all of that, it approximates about $433 million. So at $60 million
a year, we're talking a program of at least seven years or more to get
that done using user fees alone. I just wanted that to get on the
record so that as we start to talk about rates and we talk about any
federal funding, we have in the background what the utility's facing
in the coming years.
And with that, we're all available to take any questions you
have.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I have a question. What is your
recommendation for this, this repair and restoration of working clay
pipes, et cetera, and replacement of valves? What is your
recommendation? Seven years, or do it in a shorter time? You
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know what the condition of the pipes are. You know what's
happening with your infrastructure.
MR. BELLONE: George will back me up, and we have our
engineering director and our water and wastewater directors outside.
We're attacking worst first. We know that air release valves
can leak and cause wastewater to leak into the environment. Those
are critical. Clay pipes, while we don't get a lot of breaks on those,
they do allow infiltration, which causes more water to end up at our
treatment plants, causing our treatment costs to increase.
Asbestos concrete pipes, while they're in place and don't break, are
fine until they break, and then there's an issue.
So what we're trying to do is we're trying to isolate -- using hot
maps, isolate those areas where we find there are more frequent
breaks of those kinds of mains and attack those areas first. And
they're throughout the utility service area. So that's sort of how we
approach the annual capital budget.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: So -- and I just --
DR. YILMAZ: If I might add to Joe, as commissioners know,
about a little over five years ago, we have initiated Enterprise Asset
Management Program, GIS based. So our Enterprise Asset
Management Program on GIS, you can zoom in. More sophisticated
than, in so many ways, Google. That's a challenge. We're going
down to components of our assets.
So given that detail at tactical level, our Asset Management
Program tells us what we have to fix today or tomorrow or within a
year, next five years, next 10 years. Risk-based decision-making is
the fundamental driver for the Asset Management Program. So we
have to take a risk. We cannot fix everything at once. So seven
years is a much better window than 10 years.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yeah.
DR. YILMAZ: So we were at 10 years. We've compressed it
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to seven years, hopefully less, because of the fact that this board
approved our Enterprise Asset Management GIS base that given now
results so that we're not going by institutional knowledge. We're
going with institutional knowledge and significant amount of
algorithm and field confirmation of, as Joe articulated very well, what
is worse that will fail yesterday, today, or tomorrow, we go and fix it
as early as possible. And what might fail next two or three years,
they are programmed in your budget that you're going to approve.
Next five years is part of your budget that you're going to approve.
But that's all risk-based management and also shows we're managing
our assets responsively without creating rate shock to our customers.
I hope I answered your question together with Joe.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: You did. You did.
Commissioner Solis, I know you want to --
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yeah, just a couple of questions.
You know, every time I hear that number much how many miles of
clay pipe there are out there, it's staggering. But -- and I just want to
say that I think the challenges that you face and the scope of what
you-all oversee is really amazing, and I think, you know, we're lucky
to have all of you on the team and doing such a great job. So thanks
for everything you do.
Just out of curiosity, the things -- the materials that we are
changing, the clay pipes, to, you know, what we're replacing them
with, I mean, what's the life of those? I mean, it's PVC, right,
or -- usually, or something like that? So it --
DR. YILMAZ: Commissioner, I might take that. And there
are -- there are three different -- three different primary product lines
that we looked into carefully for water mains, wastewater mains, and
IQ mains. So we are going with what is most prudent and longer
lifespan.
So the pipes that we have chosen for wastewater has a lifespan
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and resiliency for potential force main breaks is about 20 years out.
So when you have PVC pipe like Quarry [sic] area we put PVC
pipes, they are not as elastic as HDP type pipes; therefore, they are
prone to break faster.
Moving from tactical strategy, your question is right on. We
have to be as good as we are in terms of asset management, what we
are replacing but also replaces with what. So that's also part of our
Asset Management Program. That is somewhat dynamic, and that's
where our utility standards gets updated every two, three years so that
our developers produce to our standards before they convey to us so
that we're giving the customers best possible product line for next 10,
20 years.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Can I piggyback on that?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Right.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: So you -- in new development you
have a standard that you expect -- well, I mean, frankly, in the east
we are the -- we are the service in the east. And so if -- for instance,
in areas that we are not the main service provider, we have no
authority at all in terms of what is put in the ground or how long it
lasts; is that correct?
DR. YILMAZ: Correct, with the follow-up, this board was
visionary to extend our service area boundaries to Collier County
Water/Sewer District Special Act boundaries. Doing so, our utility
standards applies everywhere except other districts like Immokalee
Water/Sewer District, City of Naples, City of Marco, and Rural
Lands West area. They had their own district, and they had option to
produce their water, and they had option to put their own
infrastructure to their standards.
So we were able to bring our standards to the level and, as an
enterprise business, be competitive enough to the point developers
have chosen us to provide service and decided not to build their own
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system. That's why you have gone through and approved those
interlocal agreements. And that goes to this Board's vision and our
executive leadership team's vision.
This is about 50- to 100-year endeavor. Everything we're
putting in infrastructure in ground will stay there, will serve
customers now and in the future. So I think that visionary strategic
policy decision put us in a position where private sector willing to
have this governing board providing water/sewer, irrigation water,
and solid waste services within their districts.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: And just my last thing is I was
looking in the budget, and I couldn't find the budget line item for the
huge awards case that you must have somewhere, because I saw that
the division got another award for the outstanding membrane plant.
So, I mean, you must add on to that thing every year, because the
awards just keep coming in, right?
DR. YILMAZ: Thank you, Commissioner. That's very
gracious of you. And our team members, 560 men and women out
there hearing what you just said, they are thrilled. We appreciate the
acknowledgment, and I think that being the best is above and beyond
what we have to do every day with the resources we've got. And we
have the encouragement. And our new County Manager and I had
high-level discussions and, yes, we do have the freedom to be the
best in the nation next five years, and you will get more of them.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Congrats. Great job.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Great. Thank you.
Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: You know, I just wanted to
say that, you know, when I became a commissioner, the department I
spent the most time with was you-all, mostly because, having
commanded a couple of bases, you quickly learn that all the visible
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stuff that people drive by is great, but it's all the behind-the-scenes
stuff, when it implodes, it creates some havoc.
You know, people flush their toilets, they work. Nobody says,
wow, Collier County, great job. But, you know, if it overflows into
their bathroom, all of a sudden, who are the idiots in Collier County
that, you know, don't know what they're doing. And, you know, just
the opposite, you have an unbelievable professional team.
I mean, I've spent -- how many days did we spend together
going into places that, like you even said, a lot of people haven't even
stood here to really understand what the infrastructure looks like.
You know, through my eyes being able to compare it with what I had
at some of my bases -- because it's very similar, very similar, and I
was extremely impressed. You know, how many times did I tell
you, holy smokes, man, I wish I would have had this at Eglin.
But more than that, people really need to realize and to, you
know, hear publicly the proactive measure that Collier County has
taken under your leadership and your team to make sure that we're
well ahead. You know, Commissioner Taylor and I went -- you
know, went and cut a ribbon at one of your, you know, stations, and
there's been a couple of other visible things. But there's so much
stuff you guys are doing behind the scenes with pipe replacement and
everything.
But on the flip side, when we have had an emergency -- you
know, we had that wastewater, you know, break -- your sense of
urgency, which is something I really respect, being able to really, you
know, while citizens are going crazy already -- and they should.
You know, they're wondering, you know, if we're responding, you
already have the trucks out there, the updates to all of us over, you
know, the weekend and late hours and whatnot so we could respond
back to constituents. You know, those are the fine points that aren't
lost on anybody up here.
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And so that's why, you know, your department wins a lot of
awards. I actually saw the trophy case. It's packed. So there might
be something in the budget to add a bigger one.
Lastly, I'll just say, very impressed with the knowledge of your
employees. A lot of times you can go around with a director, and
that person's saying all the things. You are, you know, such a
hands-on leader that I can't count the number of times where I'd ask a
question and you'd be like, oh, Kari's going to answer that or, you
know, one of your other people, and that just shows the depth of your
leadership.
So I'll never wish this but, you know, if you got struck by
lightning or whatnot -- and you won't -- but, you know, the job of a
leader is to make more leaders. The depth that you've built with
your team and their knowledge has -- you know, has been, you know,
very impressive.
The only thing I'll just say on the budget is I know you really
pride yourself on, you know, tightening your belt and finding ways to
be efficient and everything but, you know, don't be shy that if you do
see some things, like the County Manager has said, you know, we
have funds, General Fund, and you -- I'm sure you tap into it, you
know, plenty of times.
But, you know, there's some areas in your budget where, you
know, you've tightened the belt or reduced it, and in a couple of areas
I know why, because we've already upgraded it or whatnot, so it was
a change that wasn't needed.
But in a couple of cases, if you're doing something more
efficient but it looks like it's not proving to be effective -- and I'm
telling you something you already know, but just for the sake of sort
of reiterating it, you're in a very important department that is way
behind the scenes, but the minute something goes wrong, it's front
and center. So if you do see something that's coming up, don't be
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shy to, obviously, the County Manager or any of us, because we
really want to be here to support your department because of the
importance of what you do and how many people it affects, whether
they know it or not.
So, well done on the award, and I'm sure more to come. And,
you know, I was very impressed from top to bottom and saw so many
of your areas that were extremely, you know, impressive, and those
areas that needed a little tender love and care, you were on it. You
know, you already had the plan and the people. So, thank you.
DR. YILMAZ: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you very much. I think that's
it. No more questions, no more public comment. Well done.
Thank you.
DEBT SERVICES
MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, I'll take debt service. In
my prior position --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: From over here? No, no.
MR. ISACKSON: In my prior position I spent a lot of time and
paid a lot of attention to our debt program and specifically debt
management. I will tell you that your debt -- your total all-in
principal debt outstanding in '08 was $788 million. It's now down to
about 559 million, and that's with issuing about 200 million in debt
since 2019.
We're always looking aggressively at our portfolio. We always
look to try and see what tranches of debt that we have out there that
might be possibilities for refunding. That's done on a regular basis.
You're at about 62 million right now in all-in debt service on an
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annual basis. Amia just said that on the utility side it's about 23
million of that -- of that number.
The average all-in net interest cost of the portfolio has dropped
from about 5 percent back in '08 now to about a little under 3. That's
substantial.
So I just want the Commissioners to know and understand that
we're positioning the portfolio such that when there is a need to issue
debt, we're in a position, the best position possible, to do that.
Financially you have a triple A implied corporate credit rating. The
utility has a triple A rating currently. It's likely, because we just had
surveillances on the most recent not-to-exceed $145 million issue.
Those ratings will come back in a day or two. I suspect it will be a
hold at 02 A.
So just some comments on the portfolio in general, and our
particular approach to that, I think, would have been -- is in order,
and I'll conclude my comments there, and I'll ask for any questions
that you might have.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Seeing none.
MR. ISACKSON: Any comments from the public, Troy?
MR. MILLER: Not on debt service, sir.
MANAGEMENT OFFICES (PELICAN BAY)
MR. ISACKSON: All right. Next, Commissioners, we'll go to
management offices and Pelican Bay. I think we have Mr. Dorrill
here, Mr. Callahan.
MR. CALLAHAN: Good morning, again, Commissioners.
For the record, Sean Callahan, Deputy County Manager, and joining
me is Mr. Neil Dorrill, your Director of Pelican Bay Services
Division.
What you have in front of you is about a $37 million net
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operating budget. It's comprised of 86 full-time employees for your
management offices. As a reminder, your management offices
include both the Bayshore and Immokalee Community
Redevelopment Areas, your economic development programs, the
Paradise Coast Sports Complex, your Tourism Division, Office of
Management and Budget, Corporate Business Operations, Corporate
Compliance and Internal Review, County Manager's Office, and
finally Pelican Bay Services Division.
I will briefly go over some of the different programs and then
turn it over to Mr. Dorrill to see if he has any comments related to
Pelican Bay.
Both of your CRAs are implementing an aggressive capital
projects program in the upcoming year focused on infrastructure
throughout both of those areas.
Some changes to your economic development program, we will
be phasing out the Naples accelerator but continuing to operate the
culinary accelerator in Immokalee and continuing to assist the public
that wishes to open food-related businesses there.
The three innovation zones continue to accrue money and accrue
funding for economic development plan projects that will be coming
forward.
In the Paradise Coast Sports Complex, we are actively soliciting
for a new management operator at the complex. Operations are
ongoing. The stadium is hosting its first large event on July 3rd that
we're all excited about with the Ben Allen Band, and we'll continue to
host and bring in business and increase the tourism.
The tourism's a good-news item. Our annualized through the
end of this year, we're expected to be at about $30.1 million, which is
back to your FY2019 budget for TD tax. So, you know, what that
tells us, and what we've heard constantly during the TDC meetings, is
that that industry is beginning to recover and get back to normal and
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increased levels.
In your FY22 budget, we're projected at $29.8 million in tourist
development tax collections, and if the trend continues that we're
seeing this year, we expect to actually exceed that number.
I'm going to pause there and turn it over to Mr. Dorrill if he has
got any comments about the Pelican Bay Services Division.
MR. DORRILL: Very quickly. And, Commissioner
LoCastro, it's nice to be able to meet you and work for you.
The Pelican Bay Services Division is a combined Municipal
Service Taxing and Benefit District under the Board of County
Commissioners, and, essentially, we're a public works,
environmental, and conservation agency and provider to that
community. Pleased to announce that next year's budget in terms of
operations and administration will actually decrease 6 percent or a
reduction in the non-ad valorem assessment of $33.
Clam Bay will increase slightly by $6 to $31.14, and then we
will have an increase in our capital spending. The community has
embarked on a fairly aggressive, for them, capital construction
campaign that includes replacing all of the concrete sidewalks and
pathways in the community, a new operations facility after 45 years.
We'll be relocating our administrative offices to the lobby and ground
floor of the Sun Bank where we have been a tenant for many years
because we got a better rate to move off the third floor.
Total assessment next year, $799, which a lot of people consider
to be a real value in terms of the ability to live and enjoy retirement
and raise a family in Pelican Bay. Seven hundred ninety-nine
dollars, a $39.58 increase in the non-ad valorem assessment. It is
astounding to me that the community's assessed value is approaching
$8 billion in assessed value.
It's a pleasure to represent the Board in the operation there.
And I'll just -- I want you to know, in conclusion, you have a great
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staff there, administrative staff. I'm a long-term county employee,
but, you know, a lot of those people can work and only meet you for
their 10-year recognition or something like that. So Chad and Lisa,
Karen, and Darren and Barbara, you're a pleasure to work with there.
I appreciate you. I know the community appreciates you, and it's a
pleasure to represent your interests there day to day.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. Thank you. Any
questions? I just -- I have one comment which we don't have to
decide now, but I wanted to kind of fly that balloon.
I believe we have a 10-year agreement with the City of Naples
where TDC funding -- I think it's two million, five hundred a year,
over -- and it's a 10-year agreement, I believe it is.
I'm hoping that my colleagues might consider more money for
the beaches. I think the City of Naples has done an outstanding job
cleaning the beaches and maintaining it there. They're there all the
time. And I think if we know anything about increased tourism, I
think it's maybe time to bump that up a little bit. And if there isn't a
huge "oh, my gosh, let's not do that," with your agreement, I'd like to
see if staff could work with staff and see what their needs are and
what they might want to do. So I wanted to bring that forward right
now.
MR. CALLAHAN: Yes, ma'am. We'd be happy to reach out
to the City of Naples staff and coordinate on that. I'd remind you
that your beach interlocal parking agreement will also be up for
renegotiation at the end of FY22 as well.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Oh, lovely.
MR. CALLAHAN: So if we're going to talk funding and all of
that, we might want to do it together with those items --
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yes.
MR. CALLAHAN: -- and look at it holistically.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: There really -- as you know, what's
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happened in the city is they decided that the parking needs to be to all
of us in the Collier County, as many streets as possible, not to
whoever gets there first. And so they really have taken a very -- I
think a very brave step in that direction.
And then I also would remind my colleagues, unlike any other
area in Collier County, the City of Naples is open to whomever wants
to drive on their streets. No gated community. Beachheads wide
open. Anybody can go down, and it's residential. So they
particularly understand and feel the pulse of the increased growth.
And as I say, they do a great job on the beaches.
So if there's an agreement here -- I didn't want to just go to staff.
I just wanted to talk to my colleagues about it.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I would say I certainly
would agree to staff taking a look at it. I'm not agreeing to any
numbers, obviously. It's just --
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: No, no. It's more to start the
process.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Sure.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Good. Thank you.
MR. CALLAHAN: Thank you, Commissioners.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you.
MR. ISACKSON: I'm assuming, Troy, we didn't have anything
for management offices?
MR. MILLER: No, we did not, sir.
COUNTY ATTORNEY
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I'll ask County Attorney Klatzkow to
provide any comments on the County Attorney's budget.
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MR. KLATZKOW: Yeah, and I'll be brief. We're essentially
unchanged from last year. Eighty-five percent of my budget's
personnel, and we're compliant with the County Manager's guidelines
as to increases and what have you. And I'm happy to take any
questions.
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, hearing none, the Board of
County Commissioners budget, some of that's -- a lot of that's
controlled by me. So the portion that's controlled by the Board
through individual cost centers -- there are five individual cost
centers for each commissioner plus one catch-all cost center. Those
went up modestly primarily in the area of IT charges and things of
that nature.
The stuff that I control, for example, like other G&A, I buried a
lot of money in there for IT capital. So that's why you see some
increases in that particular area. And, predominantly, those are what
I would call countywide charges like your audit expenses and your
insurance -- property insurance and things of that nature. So I just
wanted to make those comments.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. Well, we really like our
new computer and technology in our boardroom. It's well done.
Thank you.
MR. ISACKSON: If I can, Commissioners, before we break, I
just want to acknowledge the staff, the department heads, the deputy
department heads, Mr. Finn, and the staff at OMB for work that goes
on behind the scenes in generating the document, and just a shout out
to those folks that have been doing this for a lot of years. Even
when I was over there, so...
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: So I think we do have public
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comment.
MR. MILLER: Yes, it's --
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: But we want to hear from our
commissioner. No, no. That's fine. I just saw Commissioner
LoCastro's name appear on the board, so...
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Do you want to go to that
person or --
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. That's fine.
MR. MILLER: Once again, David Jaye has signed up to speak
on several items, including the Board of County Commissioners
section.
Mr. Jaye, you should be getting a prompt to unmute yourself at
this time, sir, if you wish to speak. And I see you're unmuted. You
have three minutes, sir.
MR. JAYE: Thank you. I wanted to bring to the
commissioners' attention and the public that there are 77 overpaid
mostly over 65-year-old Collier County bureaucrats that are receiving
county pensions of 11.3 million plus 5.8 million a year in salaries at
the same time to do the same job, plus healthcare insurance,
supplemental pay, cashing out of unused days off, and take-home
cars. And the cashing out of unused days off is not at the salary
level when those days off were banked, but at the highest level of
salary.
I call them triple dippers, tripledippers.org. These public
servants are the only public employees in the state of Florida that
don't pay 3 percent of their salary to the Florida Retirement System.
Replacing -- replacing these drop -- these triple dippers with freshly
trained and newly educated entry level people would save taxpayers
approximately 2.3 million each year without cutting a single job;
2.3 million.
Collier County's 77 DROP triple dippers is now up from 52 in
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2018, and the king of the Lee [sic] County government triple dippers
is Leo Ochs. And he had a salary of 213,000 and a cash bonus of
637,546, the second highest cash bonus in Florida in May of 2021.
Ochs shifted his personal individual responsibility to the taxpayers by
not paying 3 percent of the salary in his pension, 6,411.
The -- after Leo Ochs, there's also Matthew Villa (phonetic),
battalion chief, salary of 113,069, cash bonus of 450,000. The
Collier County triple dippers include low-level employees like
secretaries, auto technicians, janitors, and incredibly, a courier -- a
courier. When UPS and the other courier services aren't available,
you're paying a courier 38,870 plus a cash bonus of $50,000 to do the
same job at the same time. Private companies can provide these
services much cheaper and use personal computers, not secretaries.
And the cherry on the top, for these triple dippers is that these
public-servant retirees can afford to delay Social Security which then
increases 8 percent a year to age 70.
The taxpayers are on the hook for 36 billion, with a b, in
unfunded public pensions and retiree healthcare. That works out to
1,674 liability for every man, woman, and child in Florida.
So the Deferred Retirement Option Program is an option.
There are no mandatory retirement laws in the state of Florida. It's
an option program.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. I'm sorry. Your time is
up. Thank you very much. And I know that you've registered to
speak with some other items. So at the appropriate time, I will allow
you to come back and continue -- not to repeat, but to continue. But,
unfortunately, you have to stop right now. Thank you very much.
Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: A question for you,
Mr. Isackson. Just -- and I just want to find out when the
appropriate time is. So on Page 33 is when it starts, sort of an
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overview of District 1, District 2, District 3, and the projected
funding for Fiscal Year '21/'22. I had a couple questions. No huge,
deep dive. Is it appropriate now or wait till the end? What's more --
MR. ISACKSON: No, you can --
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Okay. So getting to District
1, just a couple questions that I had, and it sort of dovetails on what
Commissioner Taylor was saying. I mean, I don't have a lot of
beaches in District 1, but Tigertail is one of the beaches, and I just
didn't see a line item there for beach renourishment. So, you know,
the answer could be, well, the General Fund or if we need it. What I
tend to hear from my constituents in District 1 -- and, you know, I'll
paraphrase, but their quote is always, you know, we always get the
last truckload of sand. You know, you flip these pages, and
everybody else has beach renourishment. Granted, beaches are huge
in some of other districts, and we don't necessarily have the big
footprint -- but some of the renourishment that I think we actually do
on some of the Marco Island beaches as well. You know, like I said
earlier, when it's not a line item and it's like, well, we'll get to it, you
know, if we have a fund with extra money and just raise your hand,
but it's not in the budget. You know, I just want to know your
thoughts on that.
MR. ISACKSON: Well, let me just say that what we attempted
to do with these pages is simply to provide a snapshot. This is not
an all-exclusive list.
Mr. Finn could probably give you the 10-year renourishment
plan sitting in our Fund 195 that will give you a very, very
comprehensive look at all of the coastal projects that are being
funded, not only this year but in the out-years. We'd be happy --
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Are there District 1 things in
there?
MR. ISACKSON: Yeah. We'd be happy to provide that to
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you, sir.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Because, I mean, like you
said, there's a long-term plan. But for '21 and '22, is there -- are
there line items in there?
MR. ISACKSON: That 10-year plan includes '22 also.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Okay. So, yeah, maybe if
you could send that to me just so I can speak, you know, as
eloquently as possible to my constituents as to what we're doing,
what we're not doing, is it in the budget, is it not.
And then, just as I was looking through here -- and I don't know
that I caught something. You know, you were telling your staff, you
know, they had a typo somewhere, and you flipped the slide. I was
actually looking for it. It's a pet peeve of mine, too.
But if you look at Page 34, about halfway down, it says -- it's in
District 2. It says Sugden Regional Park, 215,500, and then if you
go to Page 36 for District 4, it's the same, the last line is Sugden
Regional Park, 215,500.
Now, if you look at the comments, it says Sugden and Conner,
and so I just didn't know if maybe those were both line items
because -- you know, but maybe one of them should say Conner, one
of them should say Sugden. It just caught my attention. So I wasn't
sure if that was sort of a misprint or needed some more specificity.
But, you know, it was identical in the same thing but two different
districts. That's really all I caught. So it was more observation.
See, we're both -- we actually read this.
MR. ISACKSON: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: So, I mean, what do you
think that was? Do you think -- is that correct; that it's both
districts? It's part of their budget.
MR. ISACKSON: I'll let -- maybe Ed can address that. I'll let
Ed talk a little bit about that.
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MR. FINN: Commissioner, thank you. Why don't we do this:
Let me get back to you off-line and make that --
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yep. Or just -- yeah. And
you don't even need to. It was more of an observation. You know,
I was just reading this, when you saw something identical in both
districts and, you know, it was just -- maybe it was just sort of a
misprint or something.
And, you know, it's six figures so, I mean, it goes into the total
somewhere. I just want to make sure, more importantly, that it's not
duplicated somewhere else and being part of the final big number and
maybe it's being counted twice or something. You know, that's sort
of the overarching thing. But whatever the outcome is, I just -- I just
highlight it, and I figure you'll look into it, and if it's not a mistake,
you know, then so be it.
MR. FINN: I can appreciate the concern. The one thing I can
tell you, it most assuredly is not double counted in the budget.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Okay.
MR. FINN: It could be double counted in a presentation for
presentation purposes, but not in the budget.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Right. Got it. Okay.
Thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: All right. Thank you very much.
It's 11:30. I'm assuming our callback is at 1:00?
MR. ISACKSON: We'll reconvene at 1:00 with your
constitutional officers.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: All right. Enjoy your lunch,
everyone.
(A luncheon recess was had from 11:31 a.m. to 1:00 p.m.)
MR. ISACKSON: Madam Chair, Commissioners, you have a
live mic.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you very much.
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MR. ISACKSON: We're into our 1:00 afternoon session,
Commissioners.
ELECTIONS
MR. ISACKSON: We'll start the proceedings with Jennifer
Edwards, your Supervisor of Elections.
MS. EDWARDS: Good afternoon.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Good afternoon.
MS. EDWARDS: I'd like to introduce my Chief Deputy,
Melissa Blazier, and my Executive Assistant, Madelyn Harper.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you.
MS. EDWARDS: This is going to be really short and sweet.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Like you.
MS. EDWARDS: I don't know about that. Thank you.
Our proposed budget is $4,307,100. We have an overall
increase of $138,000, and that includes an expanded position for
Heritage Bay as well as a notice of election mailing for the 2022
cycle, and we will also be sending new voter information cards to the
voters after redistricting.
That concludes my comments.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Well, I don't see any questions.
Thank you.
Yeah, let's just talk a little bit about how you're adapting to the
new laws and what you see going forward. I mean, we're in election
time.
MS. EDWARDS: Right. We had a Supervisor of Elections
conference in Tampa last week, and we were so hopeful that the
Secretary of State and the Division of Elections would be able to
explain to us how we will be implementing some of the changes in
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the law. But we didn't learn everything, but that will be evolving,
and we'll be learning more as time goes by before the election cycle.
But we do know that when a voter requests a vote-by-mail ballot, one
of the changes is that we will ask the voter for ID, and we'll compare
that to the information we have in the record. That's one of the
changes.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: So they will have to come in to get --
MS. EDWARDS: No. They can still -- they can call us or
they can -- they can request online.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay.
MS. EDWARDS: They can do that.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And then just
supply -- forgive me.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: No, go ahead.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And then just supply you
with a scanned copy of the driver's license or something? How are
you going to --
MS. EDWARDS: No, we will ask the questions, and they can
just give it to us, and confirm or verify it against what we already
have.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Gotcha.
MS. EDWARDS: And we're going to be able -- one of our big
concerns was they were going to take away the drop boxes. But they
left them in, but -- we can use them at early voting locations, of
course, inside. They have to be manned, so we may be hiring
additional poll workers. And then the one in our office, we had it
outside, and it was available 24/7, and your security monitored it
through the cameras they mounted. We can't do that anymore.
I remember, Commissioner, you called me and you deposited yours
in the drop box on a Saturday.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yes. Yep.
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MS. EDWARDS: And now we can't do that. We had to take
it out of the ground, bring it inside, and have somebody man it.
Only during work hours.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: During work hours. Okay. So...
MS. EDWARDS: That's some of the changes.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: All right.
MR. MILLER: Madam Chair, I neglected to put the light on.
One of online speakers was registered for the elections section as
well, and that's David Jaye again.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay.
MR. MILLER: So, Mr. Jaye, you should be receiving a prompt
to unmute yourself. And there it is. You have three minutes,
Mr. Jaye.
MR. JAYE: Thank you. I've been receiving almost monthly
the 33,000-plus statewide DROP employees, and I did not see any
from the Elections Department. Do you know if there are any
DROP individuals receiving a paycheck and a pension at the same
time to do the same job in the Elections Department? Because I
haven't seen it.
MS. EDWARDS: No, no one in the election’s office is
receiving retirement as well as salary.
MR. JAYE: All right. So there you go.
This is an optional program, and the people who are receiving a
paycheck and a pension at the same time to do the same job are
crowding out operational revenue because the employer match, the
taxpayer paid match, for DROP is almost 19 percent compared to 10
and a half percent for regular general-class employees.
And the other issues are, is let's give the young people a chance.
Let's give the young people a chance to get the job, to start a family,
to buy a home as opposed to having these people who DROP triple
dippers, tripledippers.org, lists a statewide list -- instead of having all
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that money go to these individuals at the highest pay, let's get in some
newly trained, newly educated, low healthcare cost individuals and
give them a chance at having these jobs.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: And that was your only speaker for this item,
ma'am.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you.
MS. EDWARDS: Any other questions of me?
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: No. That's --
MS. EDWARDS: Thank you all very much.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Seeing none. Thank you.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Take care of all those broken
bones.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yeah.
MS. EDWARDS: We will.
CLERK OF COURTS
MR. ISACKSON: Next up, Commissioners, is the Clerk of the
Circuit Court, Crystal Kinzel and her team.
MS. KINZEL: Good afternoon, Commissioners. I, too, want
to introduce our staff. I have Derek Johnssen. You all mostly know
Derek.
MR. JOHNSSEN: Good afternoon.
MS. KINZEL: Derek's our Director of Finance and Board
Minutes and Records. And Raymond Milam, you've seen him
usually during budget, but he's recently been promoted. He will be
the Director of Accounting and Recording.
Our recording director, after a long career with us, she's retiring
this year in August. And so Raymond will be doing that in addition
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to all of the Clerk's accounting. So we did consolidate a position
there between these guys.
And also I want to recognize some of the other accounting staff
that's in the back of the room. They work on our budget plan every
year, and so they'll be taking over soon, and then maybe -- I don't
know if I'll be here or not, you know. We'll have them trained up to
do this.
So with that, May 1 we provided you with our budget book with
a lot of detail, and we've complied with the budget policy regarding
increases, insurance pay, and we remain flat as a percent of the
county's budget at .55 percent of your budget.
This funds the financial functions. Everything you heard this
morning funnels through the Clerk's Office. The departments do a
lot of legwork. We work really well with them. I want to thank
them for their continued cooperation with our office in paying bills
and payroll and bond issuance and audit and investment and
custodian of cash and culminating with the preparation of your
Comprehensive Financial Annual Report that includes even the
constitutional officers. So we appreciate all of that cooperation we
receive all year.
As you heard this morning, there are a lot of expansions in the
CARES Act and COVID money. We'll be getting millions and
millions. We had the first tranche, for lack of a better word. The
tranche of funding was about 74 million. We did not add staff
during 2020 to try to handle that. We thought it would be a
temporary condition. We tried to work it with the overtime and
value out staffing that way.
Obviously, with everything that's coming forward in the way of
the sales tax continuing with their projects and capital building, the
other programs that Kristie Sonntag from Housing explained this
morning, we have included six additional staff as expanded positions
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for our office. That still keeps us as a total Clerk's agency below our
2008 staffing levels. We've tried to do everything that we can with
automation. We have e-filing, e-recording. Those things help us to
maintain minimal staff, but when you have workload, particularly in
the grants where there's a lot of submitted paperwork, the audit
functions and other processing to make sure that money gets to the
citizens of Collier County in a timely manner, we do think that we
need those additional positions.
And -- but we still, even with those expanded positions, we
remain at the .55 as compared to the county's overall budget, so we
think that that is at least one measure of consistency that we're not
over-adding or over-requesting with our funding.
Over the last three years we've also been fortunate enough to
contribute back to the county 1 point -- over 1.5 million in either
funds that we've earned additional revenues or we've reduced our
expenses. So that's above the budgeted turnback.
And, fortunately for us, the recording has been going well. We
did not close our process during COVID. We continued with the
recording and filing. Some face-to-face downtime, but with that
automation, we were able to continue earning.
So we will have probably additional turnback this year also, as
that's been exponentially increasing in volume with all of the building
and transactions that are going on in the county.
I also wanted to thank this board, the County Manager's Office,
and all the county staff because, as I said previously, everything we
do integrates with what you do. It also integrates with the
constitutional officers. We have great cooperation there. I saw the
meeting this morning. Judge Foster, Judge Crown, Amira Fox,
Chuck Rice, we have a great relationship with them on the court side,
and that was one of the things that enabled us to stay processing and
working, even though oftentimes the courthouse might have been
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closed temporarily.
So now we are back in full force on the court side. So things
are up and operating, and we're doing very well.
And last but absolutely not least, I just want to put a plug in for
the Clerk's staff. During COVID, they showed up. We did not
have a spread within our offices either. We had incidents of
COVID, but those were contained with an individual, so we're very
fortunate. We learned some lessons about maybe separating some of
our department actions so that no one would become contaminated as
a whole office. Many of the clerks statewide furloughed or shut
down. We're hearing that places like Broward still aren't doing jury
trials, and we've been very successful here in Collier to continue all
of those functions.
Now, you don't fund the court processes that we do. That is
funded by the state and our court fines and fees, but it is a workload
and a work measure that then -- some of the positions for budget and
other functions are split between those two areas. So I thought you
would at least thank our staff. They've been soldiers this last year
and a half.
So with that, any questions, we're --
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I'll say -- I think we have public
comment, and then we'll save questions till after.
MR. MILLER: Yes, ma'am. David Jaye has also registered
for this, his third and final comment.
Mr. Jaye, you're being prompted to unmute. There you are.
You have three minutes, sir.
MR. JAYE: Yes. According to a public records request with
the Collier County Clerk and with the State of Michigan, there are 11
DROP triple dippers in the Clerk's Office. Michael Smykowski,
$80,000 a year salary's going to be getting 291,623, and that's a lump
sum cash bonus; Susan Sullivan is going to be getting $180,000 cash
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bonus; Elizabeth Card, 170,966; Linda Moracco, 170,733; Tracy
Payne, 149,436; Gina Carolyn, 146,128; Cathy Quilivan, 123,917;
Mary Soveneer, Souvenir, $101,000; Angela Malvaso, 71,000;
Bishop, Cheryl Bishop, 52,000; and Mary Intravia, I don't have what
the lump sum is from the state yet.
Two hundred ninety-one thousand? I mean, how many
vacation homes, fancy restaurants, cars do you need? This is
crowding out. It's crowding out operational expenses, and I didn't
get a rebate on my local taxes. None of the other people from
Florida got a rebate even though there were fewer hours. I salute the
Clerk's Office for the work that they've done, but we pay a high and a
very generous salary.
I'm not looking to defund any office, but the salaries are
extremely generous. The health benefits are extremely generous.
And the fact that these individuals are not kicking in 3 percent of the
pay to the Florida Retirement System is scandalous.
This is not free money, $36 billion in debt in the Florida Retirement
System. The federal debt with this -- not just free extra money.
We're going to have to pay for it.
And I do believe that I've also asked to talk on the Sheriff's
budget.
MR. MILLER: I will check that, ma'am. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you.
So I wanted to speak to you about, how did it go with the
auditing? You -- I mean, this whole thing was the COVID, and then
the money came, and then the scrambling to try to get it so we could
get it to people. How did that go overall?
MS. KINZEL: I will tell you I'm greatly encouraged. We've
made such improvements in the coordination with the Housing
Department. Kristie Sonntag, I can't say -- I mean, we've always
cooperated, but I think we are getting -- our audit function is
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minimal. The records we're getting are great.
If we have a problem, we have been able to pick up the phone,
immediately resolve it. I think that's made a great difference in
getting the money out. It was -- it's a lot; fast and furious.
Our people have stayed late, weekends to make sure things are
processed quickly, but I know so has the Housing staff.
And so I think we're doing well. There are situations, but it's
been, I think, handfuls compared to the volumes that we've seen as
far as a rejection of an item. The majority are getting paid and paid
promptly, and the processing, we hope, is getting quicker and better.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: You know, what's so wonderful
about that is that I would tell folks, look, you know, you've got to fill
out these forms correctly. So the first audit is the Housing, then it
came to you. To hear that means everybody's doing their job.
MS. KINZEL: I think so. You know, there are always going
to be small things with each of these programs --
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Yes.
MS. KINZEL: -- because, as you know, with each segment of
the funding, the parameters may vary, the applicants may vary, you
might have landlords, you might have tenants, the things that you
have to validate. So Housing's done a great job in our estimation,
made our job easier, but the sheer volumes have been pretty decent.
So hopefully that gets a lot of money out to the citizens quicker.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you very much.
Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: So, Crystal, this question's
sort of for you, but then I'm going to ask Mark Isackson for some
feedback.
So, I mean, you know, the elephant in the room here is this
citizen, Mr. Jaye. He actually brings up a point that's been covered a
lot. So this isn't his own personal opinion. And as, you know,
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elected officials, you know, we hear from citizens, and, you know,
we've got to be able to hear from the ones that have some strong
opinions about some things and hear from the ones that say, you guys
are doing a great job, keep it up. So he just laundry listed, you
know, a bunch of people that work in your office that, you know, that
a lot of citizens call triple dippers.
My question's really for you, Mark. You're about to do a deep
dive into the Collier County positions, you know, across the board
and take a look at where we might make some changes. Is this one
of the things that you're taking a look at?
MR. ISACKSON: Let me just say this: The DROP system is
grounded in state statute. Is has been for years in this state.
Nothing is being done nefariously, illegal, or otherwise, and that's all
I'm going to say.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Yeah. And, really, I wanted
to give you an opportunity to state that, because we're going to hear
from the citizen when the Sheriff comes up here, and some of the
misinformation out there is that somehow we've created a program in
here to allow that.
So I appreciate your comments. You know, we're all concerned
citizens. I mean, there's merit to the -- you know, to the -- you
know, the -- his position or his opinion or whatnot, but that's -- I
wanted to get on the record and have you give your statement. So I
appreciate it.
MS. KINZEL: And, Commissioner LoCastro, I do want to add
to that a little bit. I know -- I don't want to belabor it; however,
some of the information regarding the level of salary, we have some
of the lowest paid clerical individuals in the county. They have
worked 30 years or until the proper age to even be eligible for DROP.
That is their whole pension in addition to just Social Security.
At the level of wages that they earn over the course of 30 years,
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there was a time when we started clerks out at 14,000 a year. Now
our starting salary's 28,000. These aren't exceptional salaries for
people that put in that level of years for pensions.
So -- and, again, if they are in DROP, that is the state program,
but even if they leave and would come back, they -- that is the rule of
the pension. If you work 30 years in a company, you get that. You
go work somewhere else and you work another 10, 15, you get
whatever that deal was when you earned it.
And so to begrudge the Clerk's employees or other county
employees -- quite frankly, we have difficulty getting employees.
Our benefits aren't exceptionally greater than the corporate structure
these days. IT, accounting skills in the corporate world make quite a
bit more money than we're able to pay here locally because we do try
to consider our taxpayers. And we're lucky to have devoted staff
that work all these years to keep us moving forward.
So I do want to add that, because I think it's important for the
taxpayers overall to know.
Anything else?
(No response.)
MS. KINZEL: Thank you so much.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: You didn't want to speak?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I do. You didn't recognize
me. I'm sitting down here politely waiting for my turn.
MS. KINZEL: For me?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes.
MS. KINZEL: Okay.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Am I ready to go now?
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: You are. Are you?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I don't know.
The six new FTEs, the rationale is to assist with the grant
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compliance and so on and so forth. I would assume eventually that
that's going to ratchet back. What are your plans for those new
people as we move away from having to meet with the additional
compliance requisites?
MS. KINZEL: Well, as you heard, it wasn't just the grant
programs. The county has many, many capital projects, ongoing
construction, the sales tax to carry out the rest of those programs.
We do all of the accounting, monitoring, reporting, bond debt,
everything else that goes along with that.
As we see the county double, I'm sure that we will have a need,
but we won't need to expand as significantly. Obviously, if we can
do -- work them in or if we do see a fall-off, we do have some of
these people that are getting ready to retire, and we can certainly
transition them into a vacancy without adding.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: You and I had already pretty
well talked about those things. I just wanted to -- I just wanted to be
able to --
MS. KINZEL: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- for the folks to hear that
you're not just willy-nilly adding people into there because of a
particular circumstance. There's a plan along the way.
MS. KINZEL: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes, ma'am.
SHERIFF
MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, the next up is your Collier
County Sheriff Kevin Rambosk and his team.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Good afternoon and thank you for the
opportunity to be here with you this morning. You know, normally I
do a fancy PowerPoint and a lot of pictures, and I'm not going to do
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that today.
But I would like to provide you some updates on things that I
believe are important for you and the community to know. The very
first is to thank you for your ongoing and continuing support of
public safety so that we can discharge our duties and responsibilities.
That's critically important for us.
I'd also like to thank the county staff who maintains our
buildings, who helps us with everything that we need throughout the
year. We've had some projects this year, so we want to thank them
for all the time and effort they put into that. We're slowly getting
through some of those projects. We've got a couple more, so...
And I particularly want to recognize our new County Manager and
the absolutely smooth transition that we've had since Leo's departure.
So, Mark, thank you very much for that. We appreciate that.
You know, most importantly I like to thank the men and women of
the Collier County Sheriff's Office for the outstanding job that they
do each and every day throughout the year. And, you know, this
year has been somewhat challenging, because we did work
throughout the entire year, our entire staff. A few remotely, but
most worked.
And, you know, when I look at the people that assist me, you
know, that's Colonel Bloom and that's Chief Smith, Roberts,
Middlebrook, and we have our finance director here today, Stephanie,
as well as Chief Spell, and our entire leadership team that helps move
us through. So we'll be here to answer any questions that you might
have when we get to that point.
But as I said, we've all had a pretty unique year. The law
enforcement, corrections, and civilian deputies in our agency are all
considered to be essential employees because they all work together.
We all worked throughout the last 18 months. We all work to have
Collier County one of the safest communities in the state of Florida,
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and that's even with that thing called the pandemic, which I believe is
all gone now. We say it's gone.
But, you know, some of the extraordinary ways in which your
deputies act, one is life saving, and they're involved in everything
from rescuing people who have drowned to giving Narcan to those
who have overdosed. And, again, we're doing that each and every
day.
We've helped extinguish wildfires. We've done 450 helicopter
water drops this year so far. And, you know, that -- we appreciate
your support on that. That has made a huge difference. And we
want to support our fire rescue and EMS as much as we possibly can
because they do a great job here in Collier County.
You know, from celebrating children's birthdays to deescalating
crises, we are out making a difference. They are all heroes each and
every day.
And, you know, I remain committed to provide the equipment,
the training, the new policies and procedures and, most importantly,
my support for the work that they do every day in discharging their
role and responsibility, because it has become a very different one in
the last 18 months, and they have done an outstanding job in what
they do.
We've been recognized either individually as members and/or as
an agency, got a lot of accomplishments, albeit through this time
period. You know, one of the things we were able to do with our
communications emergency 911 center was get nationally accredited.
So that means we have now five elements of our agency that are
nationally or state accredited. That is a terrific accomplishment.
We've had a number of members that have been recognized
individually. We have a lifetime achievement award for one from
the Crime Prevention Association of Florida, the Humanitarian
Award from the NAACP, a Humanitarian Award from the Naples
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Area Board of Realtors, the Above and Beyond Award, which I was
not familiar with, but with the work in procurement and logistical
during the pandemic, and that was from the National Cooperative
Procurement Partners Association. So that's terrific.
The National Media Anvil Award for our podcast entitled Sworn
Statement. If you've never had a chance to listen to that, we are
getting great, great reviews and a lot of good information out to the
public. The United States Congressional Record Commemorated
Women in Law Enforcement and Women in History this year, and
many more.
You know, each year we also take the 340-plus of our veterans
and recognize them for the great work that they've done to keep this
county, state, and nation free. So we thank them this year as well.
All that really goes into our "service to others before self" philosophy
which, again, kind of mirrors our Armed Forces. But, you know,
professionalism continues to be critically important. So when we
look at multiple accreditations, new policies and procedures,
advanced training, that's what keeps us in the forefront.
We've been rebuilding our Emergency Operations Center. We
now call it the Rock. It will help us in the event that we -- and I
don't ever say the word, but if we have any practices this year of any
kind during the summer, that's where we'll do it, but we're also going
to expand that in the future, and we'll be coming back with
information to you on how that is going to work.
We continue to build strong partnerships with all of those in the
community, because that is what we see that is lacking throughout the
rest of the nation, and we are doing it, and we're doing it very well
right here. All of this leads to a safer Collier County.
So how safe is it? Again -- and I hate to sound like a broken
record -- in 2020, the lowest crime rate recorded since 1971. We are
down 13.4 percent. That is pretty fabulous. More important than
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that, we are down in our Part 1 crimes 10.1 percent. So that's
10.1 percent fewer victims in Collier County than the year before,
because it has nothing to do with the rate of population.
So those are just some of the accomplishments that our members
and your deputies have participated in this year. We have our staff
here. We're prepared to answer any questions that you might have.
So I open it back up to you.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. Well, first of all, I
want to say thank you. Thank you to all of you. Thank you to
everybody that's watching.
I personally believe there's three primary jobs of local
government, and the first is to keep our families and neighborhoods
safe, and thank you for what you do.
Your assistance in our fire circumstances with that Huey have
been off chart, off the chart. And the Sheriff and I were speaking a
moment before the meeting and, you know, the Forestry Department
has their own helicopter that they do drops on, but you're no less than
an hour, sometimes more than an hour, several hours, and that fire
can get out of hand pretty quick like that, 30-, 40-mile-an-hour winds,
and our Sheriff's Department's on it.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Twenty to 30 minutes we can have a
helicopter up.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Exactly. So from me to you,
thank you. Thank you, for everybody. I know it's not -- you're the
leader of the band, and they're the ones that all make it go, but it's an
amazing, amazing experience to be a resident here.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Yep. It is the men and women out in
the street right now.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: And some are sleeping right now.
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Well, that's because they
were up all night.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: That they were.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And that brings me to my
two questions or comments, is how are you doing with hiring?
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Our hiring is doing well. Are we
getting the highest quality of candidate that we want? No. So we
are looking at ways that we can increase that. And we are doing a
lot of media. We're doing a lot of programming with the military to
connect with people who are coming out of the military. If you
remember a couple of years ago, I mentioned to you that we had
made a connection and a definitive position of mine to go find and
hire veterans who have served our country.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Right, perfect.
Now, and -- and in that regard with regard to the -- how is -- how do
you feel or how do -- how do you feel about the community police
station agency within the department? Because that's -- those are
the -- those are -- in my perception, I mean, everybody in a uniform
deals with the general public, but that actual physical agency that's
out there amongst the people, how do you feel about that?
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Well, as you know, we've had a
community policing element for quite some time. We have built that
over the last decade to have it become very, very strong. We have
also included a mental health unit along with that, and everybody
works together.
They're all staffed right now. I mean, as our vacancies come
up, sometimes we have to shift people around. But that building
partnerships with the community, with businesses, with homeowners
associations, and other professional entities that we work with, like
the David Lawrence Center, when we do that, the outcomes are
unusually positive, and that's a good thing.
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Thank you very much.
That's all, Madam Chair.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you.
Commissioner LoCastro.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: You know, Sheriff, I know
you'll agree, 9/11 really brought veterans -- as a veteran, it really
brought veterans and first responders together. I mean, you know,
the way our families have, you know, connected after 9/11, I think, is
just a wonderful thing.
And, you know, I hope you -- one of the things I'll say is, you
know, as a commander, there were people that served our country
that I actually sent to Leavenworth. So the word I would use is
recruit the best veterans, you know. Don't just -- you know, and I'm
telling you something you already know. But I actually spoke at a
conference that, at the time, Governor Scott asked me to speak at, and
I was still active duty, and it was bunch of a Fortune 500 companies.
And my opening line was, never hire a veteran, and I thought
Governor Scott was going to fall out of his chair. But it was an
attention getter.
But I basically said, you know, you've got to do your homework
and recruit. Just because somebody wore the uniform -- I mean, I
sent plenty of those people to, you know, the stockade and, you
know, got dishonorably discharged. So the vetting process is
important but, you know, there's no doubt that when you recruit the
right people, their dedication is amazing and will be a great add to the
team.
You know, one of the things I just wanted to say, if anybody
decided to pick apart, like, your budget and look at equipment and
question anything, I certainly can speak from experience, you don't
know the value of equipment until you need it. And so, you know,
I've heard people in this community, you know, gosh, if you're just
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responding to a domestic, you know, dispute or, you know, a loud
stereo, why does the -- you know, why do the officers need to wear
their vests? Well, same thing I can say for my security police
people. You know, I lost a few security police officers because they
responded to something that was loud music and, you know, it turned
out that if they would have had the right vest on, you know, we
wouldn't have had to knock on their parents' door.
And so I'm a big supporter of, you know, maybe not
over-equipping, but everything I see in your budget is the things that
are making our county better. Like Commissioner McDaniel said,
you know, maybe some people question a helicopter, and then all of a
sudden you have forest fires and then you're getting accolades for
having it.
This may sound kind of small, but I really commend you for
whoever's in charge of your social media campaign. You know,
we're in 2021. If you're not on Instagram, you're not on Facebook,
you're really missing a huge population of people. There's not a day
that goes by that I don't pop up Instagram and Facebook to make my
own little posts, and I see Collier County Sheriff. And it's so -- your
sense of urgency getting things out -- I mean, I literally will hear
about something and it will be, you know, on the top.
And, you know, it's probably not somebody in your team that's
making $150,000 or something, but I tell you, whoever does it -- and
it's done so professionally. And so it might sound like a small thing,
but I really wanted to give you a shout-out for that, because there are
a lot of citizens that do use social media a lot. They don't turn on the
TV; they don't watch the news. But if you're on social media, dang
it if that Collier County Sheriff's Office isn't well represented,
eloquent posts, very informative, you know, always there.
And then I've recently befriended Deputy Robert Pounds, so I
just want to say, you also have a doctor, because he delivered a baby
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apparently, so --
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Yes, he did.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: -- you're doing it all. You
know, you're doing it all, so -- but thank you for what you do. And,
you know, I know that we're all proud to work with you and, you
know, your efforts and your officers across the board and, you know,
the civilians that work for you, it speaks for itself. So thank you
very much.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Well -- and your points are well taken.
We have a very strenuous recruitment process. About 10 to
13 percent of those who originally apply ever get hired and sworn in.
So we do take that very seriously.
And as far as our media goes, we want to be as transparent and
up to date and factual as we possibly can be. And, you know, when
we look at some of the emergency conditions we've had over the last
decade, we've gotten a lot of information out, and we've cleared up a
lot of misinformation which the people who follow our Facebook and
others thank us for, because they were not getting it elsewhere.
COMMISSIONER LoCASTRO: Thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Saunders.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you.
I also want to thank you and congratulate your whole team for
making Collier County, you said one of the safest communities in the
Florida. It's actually, I think, one of the safest communities in the
country, and that's because of law enforcement. There's -- we have
great people here, but we also are surrounded by areas where maybe
there aren't so many -- there are some people that are not so great that
we've kept at bay, and I just want to congratulate you for that.
I was curious about school resource officers. I know we're in
the final stage of providing some funding to --
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Yes.
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COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: -- complete the enrollment
into that program. How is that operating? And do you see
any -- have you seen any things to be concerned about in terms of
possible threats and that sort of thing to our schools?
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: We are moving forward in our third
cadre of 10. We broke that up, as you know, two years ago or
going -- I guess this is our third year, so 10 each year. We are down
a little bit more than that right now. We have filled not quite
two-thirds of those positions. But we do not see any emerging
threats; however, you know, as things get back to normal throughout
the nation, we've started to see other violent acts occur, and we are
going to make sure that we are prepared in our schools as well as our
streets so that that does not happen here.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: So I just wanted to say thank you.
Thank you for your vision. Thank you for anticipating what other
areas are trying to do now because we're doing it. So long ago, 20
years ago, you talked about neighborhood policing, going door to
door and getting neighbors to know who you are, and you've kept that
theme throughout. You are never too much of an officer -- law
officer to work with the mentally ill or to work with drug -- in the
drug courts. I mean, we heard statistics today that were astonishing,
and it's your cooperation of your department.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: You are so much the face of -- you
come to people, and you are the face there of who we are as a county,
and I'm really proud that you're there. Thank you.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. We do have public comment?
MR. MILLER: Yes, we do, ma'am.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: The same gentleman?
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MR. MILLER: I have three waiting to comment on the
Sheriff's budget. We'll start with David Jaye, followed by
H. Michael Mogil, and then Dr. Joseph Doyle.
Mr. Jaye, you should be prompted to unmute yourself at this
time, if you'll do so. You have three minutes.
MR. JAYE: Thank you, and I salute the Sheriff for the great
job he's been doing, and the staff, working back when ICE was trying
to get illegals, you would invite them over there and protect our
community.
Nobody who's a conservative wants to defund the police, and
the -- there are -- it's unsustainable. I want to help preserve the
pensions for the law enforcement and the other public employees, but
a $36 billion debt is unsustainable.
We've got Christopher Roberts is going to get $758,000; Robert
Maxfield, 674,000; James Bloom, $670,000; Anthony Repicky,
$630,000.
There's got to be a cap. There's got to be a cap, because these
people are getting a paycheck and a pension at the same time to do
the same job, and they're going to continue after the five years. They
get the lump sum payment as a cash lump sum, their pension
payment, and they'll continue to get -- get their pension.
So these source of a payouts -- DROP payouts are crowding out
operational funds that could be used to pay a higher salary to help
you with the recruitment.
So I salute what you're doing. It's a difficult job. And I want
you to see the side of fiscal conservativism, that when you've got a
$36 billion unfunded pension and healthcare deficit for our public
employees retirement system, that there's got to be a limit. Maybe
100,000, but not 758,000.
And one of the departments in the county, the Elections
Department, does not have a single triple dipper, and they've got 21
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employees. Some of them are more senior individuals.
So I'm hoping that there will be some consideration to pare
down the DROP amounts, the bonus amounts to maybe 100,000 or
less so that we can preserve the integrity of the system -- retirement
system and not suffer under huge tax increases or reductions in the
promised pensions in the future.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Madam Chair, your next speaker is
H. Michael Mogil, and he'll be followed by Dr. Joseph Doyle.
Mr. Mogil, you're being prompted to unmute yourself at this time.
There you are. You have three minutes, sir.
MR. MOGIL: Thank you very much.
Kudos to Sheriff Rambosk and his entire department, not just
the officers on the street, but the people behind the scenes.
I'm going to give him the ABCD Award, which is above and
beyond the call of duty. They do the work. I know they do the
work, but unless you come to frequent board meetings or watch the
news every night -- I don't live on social media, and I try not to get
traffic tickets. I don't have much interaction with the police. I don't
even know they're out there except when I see cars go by.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's a good thing.
MR. MOGIL: I've been a resident for 15 years. Five of them
have been in the Vineyards, and I haven't seen community presence
in the sense of walking the neighborhood, talking to neighbors, doing
community meetings, et cetera. I'd like to see the police department
get out more, make this face-to-face interaction that's missing in so
many other places around the country, and make what we do here
even better. There's no reason that we can't do it.
You have your board meetings and your web page announcing
the board meetings. Wouldn't it be great to put the Citizens
Academy out there with a video clip? Right now the Citizens
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Academy is buried on the Sheriff's page. Not that I go to the
Sheriff's page often, but it's buried. It's not on Page 1.
What about including an insert in the voter registration or in the
voting about the Citizens Academy or a sheet that defines what the
police are doing in the community and how to reach back to the
police? What about sending notice -- and I don't have any kids in
school, so this may be totally out in left field, but what about sending
notices home with the kids from school about community outreach
and what the police are doing to get in the hands of the parents?
There's a lot of things that we can do to give the police a much
more positive image, even more positive than the image they
currently have here in Collier County. I'd like to see them do it.
To the Sheriff, we hold a flag waving and support the blue at the
corner of Collier -- not Collier -- Immokalee Road and Route 41
every other Saturday. We're going to do it again this Saturday from
10:00 to 12:00. We touched base with your office to make sure that
what we were doing would not violate any sidewalk laws or anything
like that.
The amount of horn honking, thumbs up, and flag waving is
incredible. You are well liked in this community, you and all of the
people on your staff. I'd just like to see more of you around, that's
all.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Madam Chair, our final registered speaker on
this item is Dr. Joseph Doyle.
Dr. Doyle, you should be prompted to unmute. If you'll do so
at this time. Dr. Doyle, good --
DR. DOYLE: Good afternoon.
MR. MILLER: Good afternoon. You have three minutes, sir.
DR. DOYLE: Okay. Yes, good afternoon, Commissioners
and Sheriff. Dr. Joseph Doyle.
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And as you know and as I've remarked on prior occasions, our
essential services are public health, sanitation, storm and sanitary
sewers, potable water, law enforcement, and EMS. The Mosquito
Control and the fire rescue are all essential but they don't fall under
the jurisdiction of the Board of County Commissioners.
The defund police movement sweeping the nation is ridiculous.
With the increase in violence in our cities fueled by anarchist type
organizations, namely Black Lives Matter and Antifa, the invasion of
200,000 illegals per month across the southern sovereign border,
including gang members, now more than ever we need to fully fund
the Sheriff's Office.
I've spoken to the Sheriff in past years. He has a huge job. He
does a great job controlling the gangs and keeping us save, as
Commissioner McDaniel noted. And while I'm not satisfied with the
financial contribution from the school district regarding the deputies
in the schools, at this point in time I do ask that you approve the
Sheriff's overall budget request for Fiscal Year '22.
Thank you.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Madam Chair, that was our final registered
speaker.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's a good way to end.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I think Commissioner McDaniel
would like to speak again.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I did. I just -- and if you
don't mind, I want to thank you, and I wanted to suggest to my
colleagues, if you haven't yet, what's up -- what is the program that I
attended a couple of weeks ago out at the shooting range? Do you
have a --
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Behind the -- yeah, it's called Behind
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the Badge Program; that's one. As the gentleman earlier mentioned,
our Citizens Academy. Both of those are great programs. If you
have a little bit more time, the Citizens Academy can give you a lot
more in-depth overview on the great work that your Sheriff's Office
is doing and can do. We can do the same thing with Behind the
Badge.
And we are actually -- I was -- that was kind of a unique group.
So it was so good that we are going to expand that over the coming
year. So we will be posting that in as many places that we're able to.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I just want -- I want to
compliment you on it. Again, it just fortifies my support, because
you actually get -- and I suggest if you haven't, to any of the
citizenry -- I think it's open to anybody -- and especially our leaders,
if you haven't had that opportunity, please go and do that. It's an
amazing experience. And I wanted to thank you and compliment
you on that as well. Thank you.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Commissioner Solis.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yeah. And I'd like to thank you
as well on specifically a couple things. Well, first, I have to say
something about this whole DROP issue, which I can't even believe
we're really discussing. I mean, I think that's a state program, and
it -- you know, we need to keep the people that have all the
institutional knowledge around a lot of times, and I think it's -- you
know, I think it's unfortunate that that's misunderstood, but -- so
thank you for -- for staying with us, whoever's in that program
countywide.
But we heard some statistics about the treatment courts and, you
know, that wouldn't work without your cooperation and support.
And I did some math based upon the numbers that the judge gave us,
and I guess over the -- looking at the recidivism rate, but there seems
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like there was 50 people that went through those programs in the last
three years that have not returned. I mean, those are 50 people that,
because of your efforts and everybody in the Sheriff's Department
are, you know, out of the criminal justice system. They're part of
our community. They're contributing again to the community in a
positive way as opposed to, you know, being in the jail or anywhere
else and, you know, being more of a drain on our system than
anything else.
So thank you for everything you've done in terms of that.
It's -- I think it's one of the things that makes our county such a great
place to be is your commitment to that, so thanks.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: And, you know, I often mention that
when I talk publicly because, you know, we are not trying to get into
a business or field that we should not be in. We refer people to the
right professional groups to do that. And the two things that result
out of that: A lesser crime rate and lesser cost to the taxpayer,
because if you really went back and figured out, if those 50 people
had to come back in at 100 to 130 to 180 dollars a day, that costs a lot
of money, and we've already had to get them off of drugs or alcohol
while they were in. So we need to find a better way to get those
people to remain out of our jail, save us money, and make the county
safer.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Thank you.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Thank you very much, everyone.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you very much.
County Manager.
MR. ISACKSON: Madam Chair, just --
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Oh, excuse me. Commissioner
Saunders --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Yeah, I --
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: -- did you want to speak to the
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Sheriff?
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Oh, no, no. Thank you.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: They all stopped. As soon
as they heard it was you, they all stopped.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: No. I don't know if we have
an opportunity for Commission comments before we wrap up,
because I have a couple things I wanted to bring up.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Oh, yes. Yeah, I think -- I just
wanted the County Manager to close his remarks, and then we
certainly have time for discussion.
MR. ISACKSON: The only thing I wanted to mention to the
Board, ma'am, is at your July 13th meeting, you'll be setting your
maximum millage rates which will provide the basis for going
forward into your public hearings.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you. Okay.
Commissioner Saunders, why don't you start off.
STAFF AND COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: All right. Thank you.
One of the things that we talked about on the Commission going
back -- it was before Commissioner LoCastro was on the Board, so
we're going back a couple years ago. We put a stop to any new
median beautification projects because we were experiencing such a
high level of cost for maintenance. And the idea was, okay, let's
freeze the program where we are and get our arms around that
maintenance issue. From what I understand, there may be some
good news in that regard.
I wanted to bring up a -- sort of like, you know, you open the
door a little bit, you know, it swings wide open. But I want to open
the door a little bit on some median beautification. Davis Boulevard
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from Santa Barbara east to where it comes to an end there, a lot of
communities there. It's a fairly small area. And I've been told that
our staff has done some looking into what the maintenance costs
would be if that area was -- if we had median beautification there,
and it was $120,000 a year. So not a big cost in terms of
maintenance. And there are some grant funds that are available.
So I wanted to see if the Board would be interested in opening
the door here a little bit on some of these beautification projects.
That's one. There's another one, of course, in Commissioner
LoCastro's district as well. I'm sure there's several of them.
But I wanted to see if there would be an agreement that, at least
on this one, that we would open the door on that, have staff take a
look at how to get the grants and then fund the maintenance and then,
perhaps, start considering some of the other ones.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Can I -- I thought we already
kind the voted on that, and -- because I had spoke with the two
gentlemen that are spearheading that, and we had actually given
direction to staff to look at the two pilot programs for the
different -- you know, the different designs to do that.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Yeah. I've brought this up
once before, so we may have had some discussion on that. But now
we're in the budget process, and that's why I wanted to bring it up
here, because it's not in the budget yet. But if we take certain action,
it could wind up in the budget. That's why I'm bringing it up now.
MR. ISACKSON: We can have our landscaping folks look at
not only Commissioner Saunders' request but kind of do a
comprehensive look at where our grant opportunities are in certain
areas and bring back a report to you -- to the Board.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's --
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Thank you.
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CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: That's good. Yeah, because stand in
line. I've got two that are already saying, wait a minute, how come?
And, you know, my response has been, you know, just to have an
MSTU to handle it, but there seems to be great unwillingness. And I
do believe that part of the landscaped medians are already governed
by an MSTU. So when you bring back that information, if you
could tell us -- as we know, costs are not going to be going down.
There's no downward slope of the cost of living --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: From what they were, they
are less.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: -- in Collier County.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I didn't mean to interrupt. He's
ahead of me.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: No, but I just -- can I follow up on
that question? Yeah, because as I recall, the issue was we had the
Productivity Committee look at whether we should hire in-house and
do the maintenance ourselves as opposed to contracting it out like we
used to that was 75,000 a year per mile or something, and I'm just
wondering, I think there's some FTEs related to that in the budget. I
mean, is that working out the way we hoped it had?
MR. ISACKSON: We already have a crew, and consideration
is being looked at internally whether or not to add a second crew.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay.
MR. ISACKSON: So we'll kind of dovetail that into the report
and give you guys a --
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: And not for this year, but for long
term.
MR. ISACKSON: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Of course.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: And, Commissioner Solis, I
think the problem was that some of the maintenance costs were
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exceeding 80- to $90,000 a mile per month, not per year, and that's
why it got --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: No, it was an annual mile;
$75,000 a mile per year. I had two reporters volunteer to take two
different sections of mile that were going to quit their job, so...
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: Yeah. I had understood that
it was a very high number per mile per month.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I think also it's a very high number of
miles, period.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: One hundred eleven, I think.
My recollection is 111 --
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: I think you're right.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: One hundred eleven miles of
median. It was $75,000 a mile -- a linear mile, that it was annually
costing our county. And that didn't include the MSTUs and such,
so...
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I guess 75,000 a mile per
month would be pretty high.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER SAUNDERS: I don't know where I got that
number from.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yep.
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Okay. So any other comments?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN TAYLOR: Thank you very much. We are
adjourned.
June 24, 2021
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 1 :57 p.m.
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