PBSD Budget Committee Minutes 02/25/2020 BUDGET COMMITTEE
PELICAN BAY SERVICES DIVISION
FEBRUARY 25,2020
The Budget Committee of the Pelican Bay Services Division met on Tuesday, February 25 at
9:00 a.m. at the SunTrust Bank Building, located at 801 Laurel Oak Drive, Suite 302, Naples,
Florida 34108. In attendance were:
Budget Committee Nick Fabregas
Rick Swider, Chairman Michael Fogg
Joe Chicurel Scott Streckenbein (ex-officio)
Pelican Bay Services Division Staff Lisa Jacob, Project Manager
Neil Dorrill, Administrator Alex Mumm, Sr. Field Supervisor (absent)
Chad Coleman, Operations Manager Barbara Shea, Interim Ops. Analyst
Also Present
Denise McLaughlin, PBSD Board Michael Weir, PBSD Board
APPROVED AGENDA (AS PRESENTED)
1. Pledge of Allegiance
2. Roll call
3. Agenda approval
4. Approval of 01/28/2020 meeting minutes
5. Review of committee responsibilities
a. Budget
b. Review of financial statements
c. Long-term financing
6. Administrator's Update
a. Hire recommendation: Environmental Specialist vs. Assoc. Project Mgr.
b. Job description of new Operations Analyst, Sarah Hamilton
c. Sizing & cash flow analyses of our 3 major projects (next 24-36 mos.)
d. Update on County Attorney's legal opinion: Can Fund 778 funds be
used for other purposes via an ordinance change?
e. Update on County Budget Office FY21 budget policy (if any)
7. Preliminary budget for FY2021
8. Old Business
9. New Business
10. Audience Comments
11. Adjourn
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ROLL CALL
All members were present and a quorum was established
AGENDA APPROVAL
Mr. Streckenbein motioned, Dr. Chicurel seconded to approve the agenda as
presented. The motion carried unanimously.
APPROVAL OF 01/28/2020 MEETING MINUTES
Dr. Chicurel motioned, Mr. Streckenbein seconded to approve the 01/28/2020
meeting minutes as presented. The motion carried unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS
Mr. Swider suggested that we need a full-time administrator, our business model is no
longer functional for our organization,and our needs are not being met. He noted that our business
is far more complex than ten years ago. Mr. Dorrill is currently contracted to work ten hours/week.
Mr. Swider commented that we would be better served by a full-time County employee serving as
our Administrator, and has discussed this issue with Mr. Callahan in the County Manager's Office.
He suggested that if we were to combine (1) the amount of the FY2020 budgeted salary expense
of a mid-level employee and (2) the amount of the contractual fees paid to Mr. Dorrill (Dorrill
Management Group), we could easily fund a full-time administrator, with benefits. He suggested
that the full-time administrator could assist with project management. Mr. Swider commented that
he intends to make a motion to post a job position with Colllier County to hire a full-time
administrator. Mr. Swider emphasized that Mr. Dorrill has brought value to the PBSD.
Mr. Streckenbein suggested that we need to discuss this issue as a full board. He suggested
that we need to examine how our organization would look with our open positions filled.
Mr. Fogg suggested that DMG's contracted ten hours/week is not meeting our needs. He
commented that this issue would be a worthwhile conversation for the full board to have.
Dr. Chicurel commented against changing the business model. He highlighted the recent
changes in the structure of the PBSD staff,including our Sr.Field Supervisor who is now managing
our landscaping operations, and our Operations Manager who is now administrating.
Mr. Fabregas suggested that we need more discussion on this issue. He noted that in light
of our plans to complete large projects through long-term financing, we will need additional
oversight. He suggested that we need either a full-time administrator or additional weekly hours
from Mr. Dorrill.
Mr. Dorrill commented that he believes the current management model meets the needs of
the PBSD. He is not optimistic that the County would be in favor of creating a new County
department. He noted that he is unaware of any performance issues relating to his contract. Mr.
Swider responded that Mr. Dorrill's contract can be terminated without cause.
REVIEW OF COMMITTEE RESPONSIBILITIES
Mr. Dorrill and Mr. Streckenbein confirmed that the responsibilities of this committee
include (1) budget, (2) review of financial statements, and (3) long-term financing.
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ADMINISTRATOR'S UPDATE
HIRE RECOMMENDATION: ASSOCIATE PROJECT MANAGER
Mr. Streckenbein commented that Mr. Dorrill's recommendation to hire an Associate
Project Manager was included in the agenda packet. Mr. Swider and Mr. Streckenbein suggested
that at the March PBSD Board meeting, a discussion is held on whether there is a need for a full-
time administrator, to be followed by a discussion of hiring an Associate Project Manager.
Dr. Chicurel motioned, Mr. Streckenbein seconded (to recommend to the full
board) to approve the recommendation from our Administrator that we hire an
Associate Project Manager. The motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Dorrill commented that he will include this as an item on the agenda of the March
PBSD Board meeting. Mr. Swider commented that at the March board meeting he will recommend
that we go to the County to request hiring a full-time Administrator. Mr. Dorrill commented that
he would not be interested in a full-time position, as he has a company that manages a number of
master planned communities. Mr. Fogg suggested that Mr. Dorrill discuss the pros and cons of
the existing PBSD management structure at the board meeting.
RESPONSIBILITY FOR PREPARING THE PBSD FY2021 BUDGET
Mr. Dorrill commented that Mr. Coleman is responsible for preparing the PBSD FY2021
budget and will be assisted by the Operations Analyst for data entry. Ms. Jacob will provide all
budget requirements for capital projects. Answers to any macro questions will be provided by Mr.
Dorrill.
SIZING & CASH FLOW ANALYSES OF OUR 3 MAJOR PROJECTS
Mr. Fogg commented that if we intend to borrow money next year, then a cash flow
statement will be required. Mr. Dorrill commented that the board has not decided how much of
our existing cash can be used for our capital projects. It is also unknown when the replacement
Operations Facility project will begin (the County's Public Utility Dept. will be managing this
project). He also noted that the County's Finance Committee will be responsible to obtain our
financing. Mr. Dorrill reported that our estimated free cash at the end of FY2020 is $1.6 million.
Mr. Dorrill commented that there is no definite information on an expanded beach
renourishment program from the County. Mr. Streckenbein confirmed that there are no plans for
such a program in FY2021. He is comfortable with our existing level of beach renourishment
reserves, and current policy of adding $200,000 to this reserve annually. Ms. McLaughlin also
recommended that we continue with our existing policy.
UPDATE ON COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OPINION ON FUND 778
Mr. Fogg commented that Fund 778 will have a balance of approximately $1.9 million at
the end of FY2020. He suggested that we could use these funds to fund our other capital projects,
and continue the current level of taxation, which brings in approximately $200,000 per year. In
15 years, the fund would have $3 million, which should be adequate for any streetlight pole
replacement project at that time. Mr. Dorrill commented that based on the engineer's report
completed a few years ago, a streetlight pole replacement project is not anticipated to be required
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any sooner than 15 years. Mr. Dorrill commented that per the County Attorney's Office, in order
to use Fund 778 for other uses, the Board of County Commissioners would have to approve an
amendment to our ordinance, which would include identifying the additional purposes that these
funds would be used for. Mr. Dorrill commented that he is in favor of broadening the eligibility
of the uses of Fund 778 to any other capital improvement. At the suggestion of Mr. Swider, Mr.
Dorrill will provide the wording of a motion (sometime next week) that would be appropriate to
be brought to the board to amend our ordinance to increase the uses of Fund 778.
UPDATE ON COUNTY FY2021 BUDGET POLICY
Mr. Dorrill commented that the final County FY2021 budget policy will be approved by
the BCC in March.
DISCUSSION ON PBSD RESERVES
Mr. Fogg suggested combining our "reserve for contingencies" and "reserve for disaster
relief,"and including$1 million for this combined reserve in the FY2021 budget. Ms. Jacob noted
that the PBSD spent approximately$800,000 on Hurricane Irma expenses. Mr. Dorrill commented
that he is comfortable with$1 million for this combined reserve. He also agreed with a suggestion
by Mr. Fogg to separate out the $500,000 received from the County (each year for 10 years),
described as a sinking fund reserve, into $100,000 for pipe repair and $400,000 for sidewalk
replacement.
DISCUSSION ON OUR SIDEWALK PROJECT
Mr. Dorrill commented that we will need 1/3 of the estimated cost of the sidewalk project,
or approximately $2 million available in FY2021, during which it is estimated that 1/3 of the
project will be completed. Mr. Streckenbein commented that the PBF seems to favor our
completing the sidewalk project as soon as possible, with no "breaks" in construction during
season.
DISCUSSION ON THE OPERATIONS BUILDING REPLACEMENT PROJECT
Mr. Dorrill commented that his best guess for a start date for actual"shovels in the ground"
for the Operations Building replacement project is April 1, 2021. Ms. Jacob commented that the
estimated cost for this project is$4 million. Mr.Dorrill will firm up an estimate on the total project
cost and total cash on hand required for this project in FY2021.
DISCUSSION ON LAKE BANK REPAIR PROJECTS
Ms. McLaughlin commented that the current estimate for lake bank repairs for Oakmont
Lake is $1.9 million; the Water Management Committee is waiting to review lake bank repair
options for this lake from our engineer. She recommended that we not complete any additional
lake bank projects on other PB lakes in FY2021. Mr. Dorrill commented that five lakes have
critically eroded lake banks. Mr. Swider suggested that Mr. Coleman provides a
recommendation/plan on how to move forward with lake bank remediation of these five lakes.
DISCUSSION ON THE AMOUNT AND TYPE OF LONG-TERM FINANCING
Mr. Fogg commented that he has a sense that a $13 million line of credit would cover our
four major projects. Mr. Dorrill commented that there has been some discussion that our initial
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line of credit could later be converted into a 30-year bond. Mr. Swider suggested that a 3-year
cash flow statement would be required to obtain our financing. Mr. Dorrill commented that staff
will work to develop a capital cash flow analysis for the next 24-36 months.
PRELIMINARY BUDGET FOR FY2021
A preliminary proposed FY2021 budget for our four funds was included in the agenda
packet. Mr. Dorrill noted that this budget includes 3% cost of living adjustments. Mr. Coleman
commented that the highlighted areas represent significant changes from FY2020. He also
commented that preliminary budget work indicates that the level of the FY2021 assessment will
be about the same as FY2020.
AUDIENCE COMMENTS
None
TENTATIVE DATE FOR NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING
The committee agreed to tentatively schedule the next Budget Committee for 9:00 on
Tuesday, Mar. 24.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 11:20 a.m. I
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