Agenda 11/10/2020 Item # 2B (BCC Minutes 10/13/2020 Draft)2.B
11/10/2020
COLLIER COUNTY
Board of County Commissioners
Item Number: 2.B
Item Summary: October 13, 2020 BCC Meeting Minutes
Meeting Date: 11/10/2020
Prepared by:
Title: Executive Secretary to County Manager — County Manager's Office
Name: MaryJo Brock
10/30/2020 10:11 AM
Submitted by:
Title: County Manager — County Manager's Office
Name: Leo E. Ochs
10/30/2020 10:11 AM
Approved By:
Review:
County Manager's Office Nick Casalanguida County Manager Review
Board of County Commissioners MaryJo Brock Meeting Pending
Completed 11/01/2020 7:37 AM
11/10/2020 9:00 AM
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October 13 , 2020
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Naples, Florida, October 13, 2020
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County ~
Commissioners, in and for the County of Collier, and also · 'ks
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the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing b (r:.~IP") of such
special districts as have been created accordi having
conducted business herein, met on t ~is da~ :00 a.m., in
REGULAR SESSION in Buildin " ~he Government Complex,
East Naples, Florida, with t _j_...,...A,.... ing members present:
chs, County Manager
Burt L. Saunders
Andy Solis
William L. McDaniel, Jr.
Donna Fiala
Penny Taylor
ck Casalanguida, Deputy County Manager
Jeffrey A. Klatzkow, County Attorney
Crystal K . Kinzel, Clerk of the Circuit Court & Comptroller
Troy Miller, Communications & Customer Relations
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COLLIER COUNTY
Board of County Commissioners
Community Redevelopment Agency Board (CRAB)
Airport Authority
AGENDA
Board of County Commission Chambers
Collier County Government Center
3299 Tamiami Trail East, 3rd Floor
Naples, FL 34112
October 13, 2020
9:00 AM
Commissioner Burt Saunders, District 3 -Chair Commissioner Andy Solis,
District 2 -Vice-Chair Commissioner Donna Fiala, District 1; CRAB Co-Chair
Commissioner Penny Taylor, District 4
Commissioner William L. McDaniel, Jr., District 5; CRAB Co-Chair
NOTICE: ALL PERSONS WISHING TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEMS
MUST REGISTER PRIOR TO PRESENTATION OF THE AGENDA ITEM
TO BE ADDRESSED. ALL REGISTERED SPEAKERS WILL RECEIVE UP
TO THREE (3) MINUTES UNLESS THE TIME IS ADJUSTED BY THE
CHAIRMAN.
REQUESTS TO PETITION THE BOARD ON SUBJECTS WHICH ARE
NOT ON THIS AGENDA MUST BE SUBMITTED IN WRITING WITH
EXPLANATION TO THE COUNTY MANAGER AT LEAST 13 DAYS
PRIOR TO THE DATE OF THE MEETING AND WILL BE HEARD UNDER
"PUBLIC PETITIONS." PUBLIC PETITIONS ARE LIMITED TO THE
PRESENTER, WITH A MAXIMUM TIME OF TEN MINUTES.
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ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS
BOARD WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDING PERTAINING
THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A
VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH
RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH
THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.
COLLIER COUNTY ORDINANCE NO. 2003-53 AS AMENDED BY
ORDINANCE 2004-05 AND 2007-24, REQUIRES THAT ALL LOBBYISTS
SHALL, BEFORE ENGAGING IN ANY LOBBYING ACTIVITIES
(INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, ADDRESSING THE BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS), REGISTER WITH THE CLERK TO THE
BOARD AT THE BOARD MINUTES AND RECORDS DEPARTMENT.
IF YOU ARE A PERSON WITH A DISABILITY WHO NEEDS ANY
ACCOMMODATION IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS
PROCEEDING, YOU ARE ENTITLED, AT NO COST TO YOU, THE
PROVISION OF CERTAIN ASSISTANCE. PLEASE CONTACT THE
COLLIER COUNTY FACILITIES MANAGEMENT DIVISION LOCATED
AT 3335 EAST TAMIAMI TRAIL, SUITE 1, NAPLES, FLORIDA, 34112-
5356, (239) 252-8380; ASSISTED LISTENING DEVICES FOR THE
HEARING IMPAIRED ARE AVAILABLE IN THE FACILITIES
MANAGEMENT DIVISION.
LUNCH RECESS SCHEDULED FOR 12:00 NOON TO 1:00 P.M.
1. INVOCATION AND PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
A. Pastor Eric R. Hausler of Christ the King Presbyterian Church and
Chaplain, Naples Jail
2. AGENDA AND MINUTES
A. Approval of today's regular, consent and summary agenda as amended
( ex parte disclosure provided by commission members for consent
agenda.)
B. September 3, 2020 BCC -Special Meeting Mask Sunsetting Minutes
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C. September 8, 2020 -BCC Meeting Minutes
D. September 17, 2020 -BCC -Budget Hearing Meeting Minutes
E. September 22, 2020 -BCC Meeting Minutes
3. AW ARDS AND RECOGNITIONS
A. EMPLOYEE
B. ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS
C. RETIREES
D. EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH
4. PROCLAMATIONS
5. PRESENTATIONS
6. PUBLIC PETITIONS
A. Public Petition request from Richard Yovanovich regarding Tax
Increment Rebate 1705 & 1807 Tamiami Trail East.
7. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON GENERAL TOPICS NOT ON THE
CURRENT OR FUTURE AGENDA
8. BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS
9. ADVERTISED PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. This item requires ex parte disclosure be provided by the
Commission members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all
participants are required to be sworn in. Recommendation to
approve an Ordinance of the Board of County Commissioners of Collier
County, Florida amending Ordinance No. 04-74, the Orange Blossom
Ranch Planned Unit Development (PUD), to increase the maximum
number of dwelling units from 1,600 to 1,950; and providing an
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effective date. The subject property is located on the north and south
sides of Oil Well Road ( C.R. 85 8) approximately one mile east of
Immokalee Road (C.R. 846) in Sections 13, 14 and 24, Township 48
South, Range 27 East, and Section 19, Township 48 South, Range 28
East, Collier County, Florida consisting of 616+/-acres.
[PL2018000315 5] (District 5)
B. Recommendation to approve an Ordinance amending Ordinance No.
89-05, as amended, the Collier County Growth Management Plan for
the unincorporated area of Collier County, Florida, specifically
amending the Future Land Use Element and Map Series by amending
the Urban Commercial district to add the Germain Immokalee
Commercial subdistrict to allow development of up to 80,000 square
feet of C-1, commercial professional and general office district and
luxury automobile dealership uses. The subject property is located on
the south side oflmmokalee Road, approximately .6 miles west ofl-75,
in Section 30, Township 48 South, Range 26 East, Collier County,
Florida, consisting of 8.97± acres. (Adoption Hearing)
[PL20190000454] (This is a companion to Agenda Item #9C). (District
2)
C. This item requires ex parte disclosure be provided by the
Commission members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all
participants are required to be sworn in. Recommendation to
approve an Ordinance amending Ordinance Number 2004-41, as
amended, the Collier County Land Development Code, which
established the comprehensive zoning regulations for the
unincorporated area of Collier County, Florida, by amending the
appropriate zoning atlas map or maps by changing the zoning
classification of the herein described real property from an Agricultural
(A) zoning district to a Commercial Planned Unit Development
(CPUD) zoning district for the project to be known as Germain
Immokalee CPUD, to allow a new and used automotive dealership up to
80,000 square feet on the property located on the south side of
Immokalee Road approximately 0.6 miles west of Interstate 75, in
Section 30, Township 48 South, Range 26 East, consisting of 8.97±
acres; and by providing an effective date. [PL20190000451] (This is a
companion to Agenda Item #9B) (District 2)
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D. Recommendation to approve an Ordinance amending Ordinance 89-05,
as amended, the Collier County Growth Management Plan, specifically
amending the Future Land Use Element to amend the Urban Mixed Use
Activity Center #7 to allow up to 265 multi-family residential rental
dwelling units in the Hammock Park Mixed-Use Planned Unit
Development in addition to commercial development, and furthermore
directing transmittal of the adoption amendment to the Florida
Department of Economic Opportunity. The subject property is located
at the northeast comer of Rattlesnake Hammock Road and Collier
Boulevard, in Section 14, Township 50 South, Range 26 East, Collier
County, Florida, consisting of 19.13± acres. (Adoption Hearing)
[PL20180002804] (This is a companion to Agenda Item #9E) (District
1)
E. This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by
Commission members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all
participants are required to be sworn in. Recommendation to
approve an Ordinance amending Ordinance Number 07-30, the
Hammock Park Commerce Centre Commercial Planned Unit
Development (CPUD), to allow up to 265 multi-family rental dwelling
units plus 80,000 square feet of commercial development as an
alternative to 160,000 square feet of retail and office currently allowed;
by changing the name of the CPUD from Hammock Park Commerce
Centre to the Hammock Park Mixed-Use Planned Unit Development
(MPUD); by revising the development standards; by amending the
Master Plan and revising developer commitments. The subject property
is located at the northeast comer of Rattlesnake Hammock Road and
Collier Boulevard in Section 14, Township 50 South, Range 26 East,
Collier County, Florida, consisting of 19 .13± acres; and by providing an
effective date. [PL20180002813] (Companion to Agenda Item #9D)
(District 1)
F. Recommendation to approve an Ordinance amending Ordinance
Number 04-41, as amended, the Collier County Land Development
Code, which includes the comprehensive land regulations for the
unincorporated area of Collier County, Florida, to allow enclosed,
indoor, air-conditioned self-storage as a permitted use in the General
Commercial District ( C-4) when such use is combined in the same
building with another permitted commercial use, and to provide
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additional design standards for such buildings, by providing for: Section
One, Recitals; Section Two, Findings of Fact; Section Three, Adoption
of Amendments to the Land Development Code, more specifically
amending the following: Chapter Two -Zoning Districts and Uses,
including Section 2.03 .03 -Commercial Zoning Districts; and Chapter
Five -Supplemental Standards for Specific Uses, including Section
5.05.08 Architectural and Site Design Standards; Section Four, Conflict
and Severability; Section Five, Inclusion in the Collier County Land
Development Code; and Section Six, Effective Date. [PL20200000359]
(All Districts)
10. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
A. Recommendation to formalize a Board of County Commissioners
position supporting the Multi-use Corridors of Regional Economic
Significance (M-CORES) Program only if the program does not
supplant or delay existing Florida Department of Transportation
(FDOT) Work Program projects in Collier County. (Commissioner
Taylor) (All Districts)
11. COUNTY MANAGER'S REPORT
A. Recommendation to accept the COVID-19 Status Report and provide
further direction as appropriate. (Steve Camell, Department Head,
Public Services Department) (All Districts)
B. Recommendation to approve a Contribution Agreement (Agreement)
with Uline Corporation for the construction of a regional distribution
facility adjacent to the County's Sports and Special Events Complex
(Complex) including on-site and off-site improvements. (Nick
Casalanguida, Deputy County Manager) (All Districts)
C. Recommendation to approve the attached Agreement for a Market and
Financial Feasibility Study with Hunden Strategic Partners, Inc., to
conduct a direct and indirect cost benefit analysis of a proposed
development project involving Great Wolf Resorts, Inc., at the City
Gate Commerce Park adjacent to the Paradise Coast Sports Complex
and authorize a necessary budget amendment. (Sean Callahan,
Executive Director, Corporate Business Operations) (District 5)
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D. Recommendation to accept staffs progress update for the Golden Gate
Golf Course development project and provide direction, as appropriate.
(Geoff Willig, Senior Operations Analyst, County Manager's Office)
(All Districts)
E. Recommendation to award Invitation to Bid ("ITB") No. 20-7797,
Collier Beach Renourishment 2020-2021, to Earth Tech Enterprises,
Inc ., in the amount of $1,094,700, authorize the Chairman to sign the
attached Agreement, and make a finding that this item promotes tourism
(Project No. 90068). (Andrew Miller, Principal Project Manager,
Capital Project Planning, Impact Fees and Program Management
Division) (All Districts)
F. Recommendation to award an agreement for Request for Proposal
("RFP") #20-7775, "Tourism Marketing & Promotions," to Paradise
Advertising and Marketing, Inc. with an effective date of October 1,
2020, and make a finding that this action promotes tourism. (Jack Wert,
Tourism Director) (All Districts)
G. Recommendation to award Invitation to Bid ("ITB") No. 20-7762,
"SCWRF Effluent Filter Equipment Replacement" (Project Number
70148), to R2T, Inc., in the amount of $2,418,227, and authorize the
Chairman to sign the attached agreement (Tom Chmelik, Engineering
and Project Management Director). (District 1)
12. COUNTY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
13. OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS
14. AIRPORT AUTHORITY AND/OR COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY
A. AIRPORT
B. COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
15. STAFF AND COMMISSION GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS
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16. CONSENT AGENDA -All matters listed under this item are considered
to be routine and action will be taken by one motion without separate
discussion of each item. If discussion is desired by a member of the Board,
that item(s) will be removed from the Consent Agenda and considered
separately.
A. GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT
1)
2)
This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by
Commission members. Should a hearing be held on this item,
all participants are required to be sworn in. Recommendation
to approve for recording the minor final plat of City Gate
Commerce Park Phase Three Replat No. 3, Application Number
PL2020001299. (District 5)
This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by
Commission members. Should a hearing be held on this item,
all participants are required to be sworn in. Recommendation
to approve for recording the minor final plat of Tollgate
Commercial Center Replat, Application Number
PL202000011 73. (District 5)
3) Recommendation to approve final acceptance and accept the
conveyance of the potable water and sewer utility facilities for
Isles of Collier Preserve Phase 9A, PL20190000876 and
authorize the County Manager, or his designee, to release the
Final Obligation Bond in the amount of $4,000 to the Project
Engineer or the Developer's designated agent. (District 4)
4) Recommendation to approve final acceptance and accept the
conveyance of the potable water and sewer utility facilities for
Isles of Collier Preserve Phase 1 OF, PL20190000771 and
authorize the County Manager, or his designee, to release the
Final Obligation Bond in the amount of $4,000 to the Project
Engineer or the Developer's designated agent. (District 4)
5) Recommendation to approve final acceptance and accept the
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conveyance of the potable water and sewer utility facilities for
Isles of Collier Preserve Phase 12A, PL20190001260 and
authorize the County Manager, or his designee, to release the
Final Obligation Bond in the amount of $4,000 to the Project
Engineer or the Developer's designated agent. (District 4)
6) Recommendation to approve final acceptance and accept the
conveyance of the potable water and sewer utility facilities for
Isles of Collier Preserve Phase 12B, PL20190001310 and
authorize the County Manager, or his designee, to release the
Final Obligation Bond in the amount of $4,000 to the Project
Engineer or the Developer's designated agent. (District 4)
7) Recommendation to approve final acceptance of the potable
water and sewer utility facilities for Naples Heritage Clubhouse,
[PL20200001499]. (District 3)
8) Recommendation to approve final acceptance of the potable
water utility facilities and accept the conveyance of a portion of
the potable water utility facilities for the Vanderbilt CC Golf
Maintenance Improvements, [PL20200001266]. (District 5)
9) Recommendation to approve a Resolution for final acceptance of
the private roadway and drainage improvements, and acceptance
of the plat dedications, for the final plat of Winding Cypress
Phase 2C, Application Number PL2015000203 7; and authorize
the release of the maintenance security. (District 1)
10) Recommendation to approve a Resolution for final acceptance of
the private roadway and drainage improvements, and acceptance
of the plat dedications, for the final plat of Hadley Place West,
Application Number PL20160002629; and authorize the release
of the maintenance security. (District 3)
11) Recommendation to review and approve the Fiscal Year
2020/2021 Capital Improvement Plan of the Big Cypress Basin, a
part of the South Florida Water Management District (SFWMD).
(District 1)
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12) Recommendation to award Invitation to Bid ("ITB") No. 20-7740
"Stormwater Debris Collector Unit Cleaning Services" to
Shenandoah General Construction, LLC., as the Primary Vendor,
and Earth View, LLC., as the Secondary Vendor, and authorize
the Chairman to sign the attached Agreements. (All Districts)
13) Recommendation to award Invitation to Bid ("ITB") No. 20-7781
"Mowing Services" to primary, secondary, and tertiary vendors,
and authorize the Chairman to sign the attached agreements. (All
Districts)
14) Recommendation to approve the sale of shell material pertaining
to Invitation to Bid ("ITB") No. 19-7655-SS -Sale of Surplus
Material -Shell/Dredge Spoils from Beach
Renourishment/Dredge Operations to Earth Tech Enterprises,
Inc., in the bid amount $1.00/cy for the material plus $2.25/cy
Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP)
Severance Fee, for a total bid of $3.25/CY, or a total amount
(based on 4,000 CY) of $13,000, as per the terms and conditions
of the ITB. (All Districts)
15) Recommendation to approve the release of two code enforcement
liens, with an accrued value of $744,400 for payment of $450 in
the code enforcement action titled, Board of County
Commissioners v. Craig Morris, related to property located at
5845 Painted Leaf Lane, Collier County, Florida. (District 3)
16) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to
execute a work order with Taylor Engineering, Inc., to provide
professional surveying services for Naples Beach Renourishment
from just south of Doctors Pass to Florida Department of
Environmental Protection (FDEP) reference monument R-60
under Contract No. 18-7432-CZ for time and material not to
exceed $70,844 and make a finding that this item promotes
tourism. (All Districts)
17) Recommendation to approve and execute a Transportation Post
Project Maintenance Agreement between the Florida Department
of Transportation (F.D.O.T.) and Collier County for the
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maintenance of the realigned Cocohatchee Canal and authorize
the Chairman to sign the Resolution and execute the agreement.
(District 2, District 3)
18) Recommendation to approve an agreement for the purchase of a
road right-of-way, drainage and utility easement (Parcel
11 0RDUE) required for construction of roadway and related
improvements for the Whippoorwill Lane and Marbella Lakes
Drive Connection (Project No . 60219). (District 4)
19) Recommendation to amend Exhibit "A" to Resolution No. 2013-
239, as amended, the list of Speed Limits on County Maintained
Roads, to revise scriveners' errors that were found on the list.
(All Districts)
20) Recommendation to award an Agreement for Invitation to Bid
("ITB") No. 20-7742, "Pan Tilt Zoom ("PTZ") Cameras," to
Control Technologies, Inc., and to acknowledge a time extension
to a Local Agency Program Agreement with the Florida
Department of Transportation (F.D.O.T.) for equipment
purchases of Arterial Monitoring Cameras (FPN #433180-1-98-
01). (All Districts)
21) Recommendation to approve a resolution authorizing the
conveyance of a parcel of land (Parcel 358FDOT) situated on the
west side of SR 951 at its intersection with Manatee Road to the
State of Florida Department of Transportation. (District 1)
22) Recommendation to approve and execute a Florida Department
of Transportation (F .D. 0. T.) Beautification Grant, Landscape
Maintenance Memorandum of Agreement with F.D.O.T. in
which Collier County will be reimbursed up to $103,522 for
median irrigation and landscaping improvements to existing
landscaped medians on US 41 North (State Road 45/State Road
90, Gulf Park Drive to Vanderbilt Beach Road), authorize the
Chairman to sign and execute the agreement, authorize the
necessary budget amendments and allow project activity.
(District 2)
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23) Recommendation to approve and execute a Florida Department
of Transportation (F .D. 0. T.) Beautification Grant, Landscape
Maintenance Memorandum of Agreement with F.D.O.T. in
which Collier County will be reimbursed up to $78,631 for
median irrigation and landscaping improvements to existing
landscaped medians on US 41 North (State Road 45/State Road
90, Pine Ridge Road to Gulf Park Drive), authorize the Chairman
to sign and execute the agreement, authorize the necessary budget
amendments and allow project activity. (District 2)
24) Recommendation to approve Modification to Subgrant
Agreement No. H0309 with the Florida Division of Emergency
Management to extend the agreement to October 31, 2021, for
the Solana Road Drainage Project (#60102). (District 4)
25) Recommendation to authorize a budget amendment to recognize
carry forward for projects within the Transportation Supported
Gas Tax Fund (313) and Transportation & CDES Capital Fund
(310) in the amount of $342,428.66 (Projects #60066, #60085,
#60088, #69333, #693363, and #69338). (All Districts)
26) Recommendation to accept the Sub-Award and Grant Agreement
with the Florida Division of Emergency Management (FDEM)
for funding in the amount of $60,000 under the Federal
Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Hazard Mitigation
Grant Program for the design of the Big Cypress Golf and
Country Club Drainage Improvements and authorize necessary
budget amendments. (District 4)
27) Recommendation to approve the selection committee's ranking
and authorize staff to enter into contract negotiations with Capital
Consulting Solutions, LLC, for Request for Professional Services
("RPS") No. 20-7795R, Design Criteria for Tiger IX Grant
Project, (Immokalee Complete Streets) (District 5)
B. COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
1) Recommendation that the Board of County Commissioners,
acting as the Community Redevelopment Agency Board, award
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Invitation to Bid ("ITB") No. 20-7773, Bayshore CRA
Community Parking Lot, located at Coco Ave & Bayshore Drive,
to Fort Construction Group of Naples, Inc., for a total contract
amount of $472,772.25, and authorize the Chairman to sign the
attached agreement. (District 1, District 4)
C. PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT
1) Recommendation to award Invitation to Bid ("ITB") No. 20-
7744, "Pest Control -County Facilities," to Hulett
Environmental Services, Inc., and authorize the Chairman to sign
the attached agreement. (All Districts)
2) Recommendation to approve an Easement to Lee County Electric
Cooperative, Inc., for installation of electric facilities to service
the Multi-Purpose Public Safety Facility on County-owned
property located within the Town of Ave Maria. (District 5)
3) Recommendation to approve the Easement Agreement with 1196
Parkway, LLC, a Florida limited liability company, at a cost not
to exceed $1,300 for the acquisition of a Utility Easement for
proposed water and wastewater infrastructure improvements,
(Project Number #70046). (District 4)
4) Recommendation to Award EBL Partners LLC, under Agreement
#19-7525, in the amount of $499,779.15 on a Purchase Order to
Provide the Labor, Material and Equipment to modify the
existing Electrical Switchgear in the JI Electric Room, so that a
Tri Star Docking Station can be installed that will enable the JI -
J2 Jail Facilities to be connected to a Portable Generator as
backup in the event of an emergency. (District 1)
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5) Recommendation to approve a Utility Work Agreement with the
Florida Department of Transportation for the relocation of existing
Collier County Water-Sewer District ("CCWSD") utilities prior to
construction ofFDOT's Interstate 75 (1-75) at State Road 951 (SR
951 ), Interchange project, along with the attached Resolution
memorializing the Board's approval and authorizing the Chairman to
sign the agreement. (District 1, District 3, District 5)
D. PUBLIC SERVICES DEPARTMENT
1) Recommendation to approve the FY20-21 contract with the State of
Florida Department of Health for the operation of the Collier County
Health Department in the amount of $1,491,500. (All Districts)
2) Recommendation to approve the submittal of a Conversion of Use
Application to the Land and Water Conservation Fund State
Assistance Program pursuant to building a Community Center at
Caxambas Park. (District 1)
3) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to sign the
FY20-21 Federal Transit Administration (PTA) Section 5310 Grant
award contract for the Collier Area Transit (CAT) system and the
Transportation Disadvantaged Program in the amount of $517,656,
authorize the necessary Budget Amendment, and authorize the County
Manager or designee to execute any and all documents necessary to
receive the award and execute all pay requests. (All Districts)
4) Recommendation to approve the electronic submittal of the 2019 /2020
Federal Highway Administration Flexible Funds Grant Award
(Section 5307) in the amount of $500,000 in the Transit Award
Management System for the purchase of a thirty-foot (30 ft.) fixed-
route bus and authorize the necessary Budget Amendment. (All
Districts)
5) Recommendation to approve the selection committee's ranking and
authorize staff to enter into contract negotiations with the A2 Group,
Inc., related to Invitation for Qualification ("IFQ") No. 20-7801,
"Construction Manager at Risk for Sun-N-Fun Water Park
Rehabilitation and Restoration." (District 2)
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6) Recommendation to approve the "After-the-Fact" submittal of the
FY20-2 l State Aid to Libraries Grant and authorize the Chairman to
sign the Grant Agreement #21-ST-08 required for the submission of
the grant application to the Florida Department of State, Division of
Library and Information Services for funding in the estimated amount
of $157,981 and authorize the County Manager or designee to sign all
certifications. (All Districts)
7) Recommendation to amend Contract No. 18-7382 -Professional
Services Agreement for Collier Area Transit Fixed Route, Demand
Response, and Transit Operations Management Services with MV
Contract Transportation, Inc., to allow for a temporary trip rate
increase for paratransit service in response to the COVID-19
Pandemic -Amendment #2. (All Districts)
8) Recommendation to approve the Fourth Amendment to Agreement
No. 19-002-WV between Collier County and Benevate, Inc., for Grant
Management Software and authorize the Chairman to sign the
amendment. (All Districts)
E. ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES DEPARTMENT
1) Recommendation to authorize routine and customary budget
amendments appropriating carry forward budget in the amount of
$8,235,539.88 for approved open purchase orders into Fiscal Year
2021. (All Districts)
2) Recommendation to approve continuation with SAP as the County's
Financial System and authorize staff to release a Request for
Proposals for a required upgrade. (All Districts)
3) Recommendation to donate a surplus vehicle to Everglades City and
authorize the Procurement Director, as designee for County Manager,
to sign for the transfer of vehicle title. (All Districts)
4) Recommendation to approve the administrative report prepared by the
Procurement Services Division for disposal of property and
notification of revenue disbursement. ( All Districts)
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5) Recommendation to approve the administrative reports prepared by
the Procurement Services Division for change orders and other
contractual modifications requiring Board approval. (All Districts)
F. COUNTY MANAGER OPERA TIO NS
1) Recommendation to approve and authorize the Chairman to execute
the Tourist Development Tax Grant Agreements for FY2 l Marketing
& Events ($65,000) and Non-County Owned/Operated Museums
($250,000) and make a finding that these expenditures promote
tourism. (All Districts)
2) Recommendation to approve the Fiscal Year 20-21 Strategic
Marketing Plan for the Naples, Marco Island, Everglades Convention
& Visitors Bureau (CVB) and make a finding that this plan promotes
tourism. (All Districts)
3) Recommendation to approve the use of Tourist Development Tax
Promotion Funds to support the upcoming November 2020 Sports
Tourism Events up to $23,250 and make a finding that these
expenditures promote tourism. (All Districts)
4) Recommendation to approve the use of Tourist Development Tax
Promotion Funds to support the upcoming November 2020 Sports
Tourism Event up to $7,000 and make a finding that this expenditure
promote tourism. (All Districts)
5) Presentation of the Distinguished Budget Presentation A ward for
Fiscal Year 2020 from the Government Finance Officers Association
(GFOA) presented to the Office of Management and Budget. To be
accepted by Mark Isackson, Director of Corporate Financial Planning
and Management Services. (All Districts)
6) Recommendation to adopt a resolution approving amendments
( appropriating grants, donations, contributions or insurance proceeds)
to the Fiscal Year 2020-21 Adopted Budget. (All Districts)
7) Recommendation to approve clarifications to the Coronavirus Relief
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Fund programs in preparation for the re-opening of the Collier
CARES Community Health & Services, Small Business Relaunch and
Rehire, and Individual Assistance portals. (All Districts)
8) Recommendation to approve an Agreement with the United Arts
Council of Collier County in support of achieving the strategies
outlined in the Board adopted Collier County Arts & Culture Strategic
Plan; approve a waiver from the competitive procurement process for
the United Arts Council and make a finding that this expenditure
promotes tourism. (All Districts)
G. AIRPORT AUTHORITY
1) Recommendation to approve Owner Directed Change Order # 4 to
Agreement No. 18-7240, "Marco Executive Airport New Terminal &
Associated Improvements," with West Construction, Inc., in the
amount of $10,579.49. (District 1)
2) Recommendation to approve the attached First Amendment to Collier
County Airport Authority Standard Form Lease Agreement with
Wholesale Shutters of South West Florida, Inc., to extend the lease
term five years to October 31, 2025. (District 5)
H. BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
1) Proclamation designating October 2020 as Safe Infant Sleep Month in
Collier County. The proclamation will be mailed to Danna Breeden,
R.N., Maternal and Child Nurse Consultant, Florida Department of
Health -Collier County.
2) Proclamation designating October 2020 as Domestic Violence
Awareness Month in Collier County. The proclamation will be mailed
to Linda Oberhaus, Chief Executive Officer, The Shelter for Abused
Women & Children.
3) Recommendation to approve a Resolution supporting innovative pilot
projects for invasive plant control on Lake Okeechobee and
surrounding waterways. (All Districts)
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I. MISCELLANEOUS CORRESPONDENCE
J. OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS
1) Recommendation to approve Tax Collector request for advance
commissions in accordance with Florida Statute 192.102(1) for FY
2021. (All Districts)
2) Recommendation to provide approval for the State of Florida E911
Board/E911 State Grant Program. (All Districts)
3) To record in the minutes of the Board of County Commissioners, the
check number ( or other payment method), amount, payee, and
purpose for which the referenced disbursements were drawn for the
periods between September 10, 2020 and September 30, 2020
pursuant to Florida Statute 136.06. (All Districts)
4) Request that the Board approve and determine valid public purpose
for invoices payable and purchasing card transactions as of October 7,
2020. (All Districts)
5) Recommendation to endorse the United States Department of Justice
and United States Department of Treasury combined Equitable
Sharing Agreement and Certification through September 30, 2021.
(All Districts)
K. COUNTY ATTORNEY
1) Recommendation to appoint a member to the Contractors Licensing
Board. (All Districts)
2) Recommendation to appoint a member to the Historic/ Archaeological
Preservation Board. (All Districts)
3) Recommendation to approve a Joint Motion for Stipulated Final
Judgment in the amount of $11,500 for the acquisition of Parcel
204DAME, plus $12,321.72 for all statutory attorney's fees, expert
fees, and costs, plus an amount not to exceed $1,800 for all
supplemental attorney's fees and costs relating to the apportionment
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process, in the lawsuit styled Collier County, Florida v. John D.
Lawrence, et al., Case No. 11-3207-CA (Outfalls 3 and 4/LASIP
Project #51101 ). (All Districts)
17. SUMMARY AGENDA -This section is for advertised public hearings and
must meet the following criteria: 1) A recommendation for approval from
staff; 2) Unanimous recommendation for approval by the Collier County
Planning Commission or other authorizing agencies of all members present
and voting; 3) No written or oral objections to the item received by staff, the
Collier County Planning Commission, other authorizing agencies or the
Board, prior to the commencement of the BCC meeting on which the items
are scheduled to be heard; and 4) No individuals are registered to speak in
opposition to the item. For those items which are quasi-judicial in nature, all
participants must be sworn in.
A. Recommendation to approve an amendment adopting revisions to Ordinance
No. 2013-69, as amended, commonly known as the Collier County
Procurement Ordinance to incorporate references pertaining to the County's
Direct Materials Purchase cost-savings program . (All Districts)
B. This item requires that ex parte disclosure be provided by Commission
members. Should a hearing be held on this item, all participants are
required to be sworn in. Recommendation to approve Petition
PL20200001420, to disclaim , renounce and vacate the County and the public
interest in a portion of Tract "A" of Tollgate Commercial Center Phase
Three, Plat Book 22, Page 95 of the public records of Collier County,
Florida, known as Bush Boulevard The subject Right-of-Way (ROW) is
located approximately 1600-feet east of Collier Boulevard between
Tollhouse Drive and I-75 in Section 35, Township 49 South, Range 26 East,
Collier County, Florida. (District 5)
C. Recommendation to adopt an ordinance amending Ordinance No . 75-16, as
amended , to establish a rotation for serving as Chairman and Vice-Chairman
of the Board of County Commissioners . (All Districts)
D. Recommendation to consider the adoption of an ordinance amending
Ordinance No. 2002-09 , as previously amended by Ordinance 2016-35 , to
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increase the acreage of the Flow Way Community Development District
(CDD) pursuant to Chapter 190.046, Florida Statutes. (District 3)
E. Recommendation to adopt a resolution approving amendments
( appropriating carry forward, transfers and supplemental revenue) to the
Fiscal Year 20-21 Adopted Budget. (All Districts)
18. ADJOURN
INQUIRIES CONCERNING CHANGES TO THE BOARD'S AGENDA
SHOULD BE MADE TO THE COUNTY MANAGER'S OFFICE AT 252-8383.
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October 13, 2020
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Ladies and gentlemen, the
meeting of the County Commission will please come to order. We'll
start off, Mr. Ochs --
MR. OCHS: We have an invocation --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: --with the invocation, and tlie
we'll get into the business of today's meeting. ~
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. Pastor Eric Hausler from the · st the
King Presbyterian Church and chaplain of our Naples J~f\ 11 give
this morning's invocation. ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: And, Commiss· aylor, if you
would lead us in the Pledge after the invocati
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I'd be ho
Item#l • ~Q.o
INVOCATION AND PLEDGE O ~LEGIANCE -
INVOCATION GIVEN e,;<:;;:
PASTOR HAUSLE I think the last time I was here was just
the meeting before the · g lockdown. Thankful that we can be back
here again.
In Prove
Lord with 11
3, , and 6 in the Old Testament it says, trust in the
heart and don't lean on your own understanding.
acknowledge him, that he will make your path
, t's acknowledge him as we open with prayer. Let us pray.
, Lord, our God, we bow before you today, the king of the
heavens of the earth, and we call on the name of the Lord as people
have done for thousands of years. Thank you, oh, Lord, for this free
land in which we live. Thank you for all the material blessings that
we enjoy every day. Thank you for this beautiful community we call
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Collier County.
Thank you, oh, Lord, for your public servants meeting today.
We pray for your blessing on this meeting of the Collier County
Commission. We pray you'd give wisdom to everyone participating
today. Watch over all those, oh, Lord, who are putting their live on
the line that we might live in peace and security and safety. ~
We pray for our first responders, our law enforcement cers,
our jail deputies, healthcare workers on the front line. ord,
encourage them, watch over, guard, and keep them a nd we pray
that you would bring an end to this pandemic and rt.10a<., ... ~ • Lead and
guide and protect and bless us all, we pray in
Amen.
(The Pledge of Allegiance was rec it n nison.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: 1 h...,.~-. . And, Pastor, thank
you very much for getting us start e right path this morning.
Thank you.
COMMISSIONER TAY~ . That was beautiful. Thank
you, Pastor. ~
CHAIRMAN SA RS: Mr. Ochs, we are on Item 2A, the
agenda today. ✓
MR. OCH . Before we go there, I have a couple of agenda
changes, if w igfl , Mr. Chairman.
CHA SAUNDERS: Uh-huh.
VAL OF TODA Y'S REGULAR, CONSENT AND
SU MARY AGENDAASAMENDED(EXXPARTE
DISCLOSURE PROVIDED BY COMMISSION MEMBER FOR
CONSENT AGENDA.) -APPROVED AND/OR ADOPTED
W/CHANGES
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MR. OCHS: These are the proposed agenda changes for the
Board of County Commissioners meeting of October 13th, 2020.
First proposed change is to continue Item 11D to the
October 27th, 2020, BCC meeting. That request is made by ~
Chairman Saunders. This is a item having to do with a pro ~'b,i
report on the development of the Golden Gate Golf Course.
The next proposed change is to continue Item 16A ta the
October 27th, 2020, BCC meeting. This is a staff it t we need
to get some backup added to the item. And, agai:-.-:~ ... '~-.., will take us
one meeting, sir, and then we'll be back on th
October 27th with that item.
The next proposed change is to conf e I em 16F8 to your
October 27th, 2020, BCC meeting. • T · ecommendation to
approve a contract with the Unite ouncil of Collier County in
support of your recently adopted nd Cultural Strategic Plan for
the county. This item is conf e at Commissioner Taylor's
request.
I have two time-certa: ·terns on today's agenda,
Commissioners. The ~st 1s with Item 1 lB. This is a
recommendatio consider a contribution agreement between the
county and U · n C oration, and that item is scheduled to be heard
at 11 a.m. his ming.
And, ..,.,,,,.~~"'~ , Item 1 lA, the COVID status report to the Board, is
sche l&t)IIII~ e heard at 1 : 00 p .m.
e are all the changes that I have, Mr. Chairman.
AIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Let's see if there's any
que tions from the Commission on the proposed continuances that
the Manager has outlined. Anyone have any problems with any of
those?
(No response.)
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Let's see if there are
any other changes.
Commissioner McDaniel, do you have anything else?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Do you want ex parte as
well? ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yes. ~
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: No. I have no ad~ ents
and no ex parte on the consent or the summary. ,l U
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. g~
Commissioner Taylor?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes. N x on the
consent or the summary; however, I would lik o register a no vote
on Item No. 16H3, which is a resolution :6 ollier County
supporting innovative pilot projects .o
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Fiala, do
you have any changes and disclos e .
COMMISSIONER FIA~o changes, no corrections, no
additions. ~ ~
CHAIRMAN SA RS: Okay. And, Commissioner Solis,
we're on the approval oj the agenda. Three items have been
continued. Yo ve the change sheet there. Do you have any
problem wit th e continuances or any questions concerning
that?
COM IONER SOLIS: No, I don't, and I have no
~~ ....... d nothing else on consent or summary.
IRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. I have no changes, and
o disclosures.
Do we have registered speakers?
MR. MILLER: I just wanted to alert you. I have two that are
registered for a consent agenda item, but they are not online. So, if
they're not online at this time, I just wanted to let you know they're
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registered.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. Then we need a motion to
approve the agenda, as amended, and the consent and summary
agenda.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Motion to approve.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Second.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: We have a motion and a
All in favor, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL:
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: 1}11
~o ~~ ~
?
(No response.) ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: t passes unanimously.
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~ ond.
Proposed Agenda Changes
Board of County Commissioners Meeting
October 13, 2020
Continue Item 11D to the October 27, 2020 BCC Meeting: Recommendation to accept staffs
progress update for the Golden Gate Golf Course development project and provide direction, as
appropriate. (Commissioner Saunders' request)
Continue Item 16A26 to the October 27, 2020 BCC Meeting: Recommendation to accept the Sub-
Award and Grant Agreement with the Florida Division of Emergency Management (FDEM) for
funding in the amount of $60,000 under the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)
Hazard Mitigation Grant Program for the design of the Big Cypress Golf and Country Club
Drainage Improvements and authorize necessary budget amendments. (Staff's request)
Continue Item 16F8 to the October 27, 2020 BCC Meeting: Recommendation to approve an
Agreement with the United Arts Council of Collier County in support of achieving the strategies
outlined in the Board adopted Collier County Arts & Culture Strategic Plan; approve a waiver
from the competitive procurement process for the United Arts Council and make a finding that this
expenditure promotes tourism. (Commissioner Taylor's request)
Time Certain:
Item llB to be heard at 11:00 a.m.
Item llA to be heard at 1:00 p.m.
10/30/2020 9:39 AM
October 13, 2020
Item #4
PROCLAMATIONS -ALL PROCLAMATIONS WERE
ADOPTED IN THE CONSENT AGENDA
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, as it has been our custom
the pandemic, we move to Item 4, proclamations. I have a
proclamations that are part of your consent agenda this
Item #16Hl ~~
PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING OC 8~020 AS SAFE
INFANT SLEEP MONTH IN COLLI TY. THE
PROCLAMATION WILL BE M.L .,,._._.,..,i..y DANNA BREEDEN,
R.N., MATERNAL AND CHILD SE CONSULTANT,
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT O ,.,.,....,,._.,LTH-COLLIER COUNTY
~
MR. OCHS: The fi · s Item 16H 1. This is a proclamation
designating Octob r 20)0 as Safe Infant Sleep Month in Collier
County. That ""'~lama ti on will be mailed to Danna Breeden, the
R.N. for Mat 1 a Child Nurse Consultant with the Florida
alth.
P ..._.....,.&...JAMATION DESIGNATING OCTOBER 2020 AS
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH IN COLLIER
COUNTY. THE PROCLAMATION WILL BE MAILED TO
LINDA OBERHAUS, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, THE
SHELTER FOR ABUSED WOMEN & CHILDREN
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MR. OCHS: Item 16H2 is a proclamation designating
October 2020 as Domestic Violence Awareness Month in Collier
County. That proclamation will be mailed to Linda Oberhaus, the
chief executive officer of the Shelter for Abused Women and ~
Children. ~
And, finally, then we move to presentations. 4
~o Item #16F5
~T PRESENTATION OF THE DISTINGUISHE
PRESENTATION AW ARD FOR FISCAL Y 2 20 FROM THE
GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS S CIATION (GFOA)
PRESENTED TO THE OFFICE OJ; EMENT AND
BUDGET. ACCEPTED BY MA ~~.r ~ KSON, DIRECTOR OF
CORPORATE FINANCIAL PLA G AND MANAGEMENT
SERVICES (Z;,c;;;-
MR. OCHS: Item on your consent agenda this morning
would have normally b~n he presentation in person of the
Distinguished B et Presentation Award for Fiscal Year 2020 to the
Collier Coun f 1 of Management and Budget presented by the
Governm -rlr,,.~....__ ce Officers Association.
~-•"'n-...N SAUNDERS: All right. Congratulations to our
~~ nee to that. Thank you for going through those.
OCHS: Yeah, thank you.
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Item #2B, #2C, 2D, and 2E
BCC SPECIAL MEETING MASK SUNSETTING MINUTES
FROM SEPTEMBER 3, 2020; REGULAR BCC MEETING
MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 8, 2020; BCC BUDGET
HEARING MEETING MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 17 ,~ ... --,
AND REGULAR BCC MEETING MINUTES FROM SEP
22, 2020 -ALL APPROVED AS PRESENTED ~o
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Then we'll moVi o Item 2B,
the minutes for the September 3, 2020, meeti · tLL ..._. ....... e tember 8,
2020; September 17; and September 22. That I ems 2B, 2C, 2D,
2E. Any questions or comments on any those minutes?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: l\Jo . pprove.
COMMISSIONER TAYLO e nd.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: ave motion and a second.
All in favor, signify by sayin ~
COMMISSIONER ~-Aye.
COMMISSIONER A: Aye.
CHAIRMAN SA~ RS: Aye.
COMMISS ER TAYLOR: Aye.
COMM O R McDANIEL: Aye.
CHA SAUNDERS: All opposed?
( sponse.)
~. AN SAUNDERS: Those items are approved
L_l"4-i,,i ___._,J_sly.
e have --I think next we'll move to public petitions.
Item #6
PUBLIC PETITION REQUEST FROM RICHARD YOVANOVICH
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REGARDING TAX INCREMENT REBATE 1705 & 1807
TAMIAMI TRAIL EAST-MOTION TO BRING BACK AT A
FUTURE MEETING -APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. We have one public petition on th ~
agenda this morning. It's a request from Rich Yovanovich re ~l'g
tax increment rebate for 1705 and 1807 Tamiami Trail East.
The petitioner has up to 10 minutes to present.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Good
MR. YOVANOVICH: Good morning, Co .... --,ro .. ...,--~'U'
Yovanovich on behalf of PC --I'm sorry P6N -·~
0
ng.
Rich
contract purchaser of the approximately two a es o property on
your visualizer. David Parker is the repr"~ative of the LLC, and
he is also here with me today. • ~ -ro
Our request is for you to brin ~~ detailed discussion item
about the possibility of providin x · crement --ad valorem tax
rebate on the property similar at you did for the county's
property immediately ad·allllllllb ·~blllll"--'r the county's contract purchaser.
The property is basic the focal point at U.S. 41 and Davis
Boulevard, and it is wit in he Bayshore/Gateway Triangle
Redevelopment a as identified on the location map.
This par wa ctually part of the presentation made by the
county's p rch r of the property when the county was establishing
the mini-trr ..... ~~, ... ~e as the catalyst for the redevelopment of the entirety
of th· ~_,,. lopment area. And this developer has worked with the
d the purchaser of the county's property to share access and
hat there can be two successful projects on this property.
The redevelopment area was established --this is from
your --this is from your Growth Management Plan. The
redevelopment area was established back in June of 2000. We're 20
years and later, and we still don't have, really, the first project to
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come out of the ground for this redevelopment area. And Mr. Parker
is hopeful to be that first project to actually come out of the ground.
He is in for a Site Development Plan amendment to move forward
with this project. He is poised to actually close on the property,. get
the building permits, build the project, and hopefully be up and ~
running in, basically, May of 2023. ~
The purpose of this redevelopment area, also from yo ----• owth
Management Plan, is to encourage the private sector to · e in this
area. Mr. Parker will be investing close to $100 mil ·
for his proposed project.
This project is in a CRA. The CRA wa , obviously,
to spur or encourage redevelopment. Since th shment of this
CRA, the county has established a few in ation zones throughout
the county with the similar intent of.us· ax increment financing
generated in these innovation zon t e ourage developers to come
in and have some of the expenses ciated with that project --with
those projects set off by the uf · a: ·on of taxes generated from that
developer's property and ~
In a few --as I mentl d, the county has already had one tax
increment rebate a pro~d, and that was for the county's own
property immed· ly adjacent. That, obviously, was an important
factor in that tra purchaser going forward. That property's been
under con act, hink, for close to four years. My understanding is
it ma .., ...... .., ... e soon, but there's no actual timeline for the moving
for .... ,~..,.. ... the actual construction on that property. Unlike that
y client does have a plan and an ability to move forward
ng there is some tax increment rebate for this project.
I want to go over the proposed project. You saw another
version of this. It was the Trio project. It was a design that did not
go forward. It had many flaws with it. But this project is going to
be a 125-room hotel, 24 condominium units, will --the construction
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costs are north of $84 million.
This is the view at the actual tip of the triangle. All of this
information should be in your backup. It was provided with my
original letter to Deborah Forester, as well as should be attached to
your project. You can see that this is going to be a high-class lio 1
and condominium project and will encourage others to invest ~, ·
area. ~
This is more of a daytime shot where you can see t ality of
the architecture looking east at the comer. And then,_ ... __ lly, another
photograph of the proposed project.
When you see what our site plan looks li
allow us to come back and show you those <let s --together with
how the county's going to develop its --t ounty's purchaser is
going to develop its project, you wi ij s he two projects will
work nicely together. ~ ~
And it's been the goal for 20 ~ to have some private
investment in this area to not ur development of this triangle,
but to actually spur deve a11Pll-..f~ ... ..ll••'i"r-",.. 1n the entirety of Davis Boulevard.
As I mentioned, the · ect has a commitment to meet these
timelines in order to ge he rebate of the ad valorem taxes, and those
deadlines would a closing by the end of this year, the Site
Development n a: endment for the project must be approved by
the county b end of February 2021, a building permit for the
project mu obtained by June 20th, 2021 --this is all in my
letter. ._,__ must mobilize the site by July 30th, 2021, and the
st be completed by June 1, 2023, and the hotel must be
the end of July 31, 2023.
So, there are performance guidelines that must be met in order
for there to be any rebate of any taxes. So, we're not asking for a
hope and a wish. We have a specific guideline or time line that we
will --we will meet in order to be able to get to the tax rebate.
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October 13, 2020
There will also be a big economic impact with the construction
jobs related to this, approximately 200 construction-related jobs. In
addition, the hotel will employ approximately 100 people, and there
will be 900 indirect jobs associated with this project.
As I started, you had a catalyst --you had a goal that there ~.
would be a catalyst to the development of this area. This pro·~
that catalyst. It's a commitment to move forward. It's a si 1cant
investment. We're confident that we will help you mee o r goals
and objectives of the redevelopment plan adopted 20 ""-a'l8 ago.
My client is an experienced developer with t · e of
financing. He's done several projects on the t
other options to develop and take his $100 mil · o a d go over to the
East Coast to do another project that he's ei 1ng incentives from
Palm Beach County related to a gol ( c""....._J_, mmunity for a very
well-known golfer who is investi i_--,,.c--~_, client's ability to do a
project. But he'd rather develo~ r on our --over here. And it's a
significant risk to be the first e pment to come out of the ground
on this triangle piece of
We request that you us an opportunity to prepare a
feasibility study and su~it it to the county as part of this project.
Unlike another · ect on your agenda, we're not asking you to fund
that feasibilit s ud or us. We're happy to fund it ourselves. We'll
· y study. We'll give it to your staff. Your staff
ortunity to review it, critique it, and then hopefully
~....-ith a recommendation one way or the other that we can
.... ,,--,ss with you the benefits of investing with Mr. Parker in
goi __ ,~orward with this hotel condominium project as originally
intended.
And with that, I think I have 30 seconds left, and I will open it
up to any questions you may have and, again, hope you will allow us
to move forward with a more detailed presentation. Thank you.
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Let's see if there's any
comment from the Commission. We'll start at the far left here.
Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I was going to hit my button,
but since you called on me, I --I think, as Rich shared --I find i~
interesting. These are referred to as tax rebates as opposed t ~
investments in the community. I would like to have an au""".._..,._..ce
with this; see a formal presentation. I've talked to the r.
I've talked to our staff. There's been multiple comm s go
forth between our staff with regard to this. And a entioned,
we have two other items on our agenda today e t er developers
are coming to us. This is a practice that we h e one in our
community on a regular basis. Commiss · er aylor, I supported
that innovation zone --is that what 1Ji a lled out around 951
and Davis? Was --~
COMMISSIONER TA YLO · think it's 4.
MR. CASALANGUIDA· ivity Center No. 9.
COMMISSIONER .... "'IIIL1.., EL: Right.
COMMISSIONER LOR: Nine.
COMMISSIONE McDANIEL: And, Commissioner
Saunders, I supn ed that project that you put through on Golden
Gate Parkwa it edevelopment, and those have TIFs involved.
d h for us to come up with a little more pragmatic path
that can be derived from these investments, and to
,,n ._~11"'"-· ple math, but that's a long answer to a statement. But I
~ ............... ...., .. ..., to have an audience and maybe develop some policy to
r staff work with folks that are looking to come forward and
have these type of incentivizes.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Since you brought me into this,
the difference between this and a policy of an area that we're trying to
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encourage a specific type of development in is this is individual.
This is an individual ask.
So, you know, we gave that benefit to the developers behind this
development because they were first, and they were taking the risk,
because they invested and said they had a vision for this area, w ............ ,. ........
is, I think, Commissioner Fiala's 20-year vision and, certainly
vision that I've --that I've learned a lot from my colleague t right
about her ideas and her goals that never were materializ b cause
the bottom fell out of the --
CO MMIS SI ONER FIALA: Because of wh --r,~ ... se?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: The bot o t of the
market. And when the bottom fell out of the a e , the problem we
had was that the CRA purchased land an d normous amount of
debt. •
COMMISSIONER McDAN ~ ill does.
COMMISSIONER TA YLO · nd So, what happened --and
it was before I was elected. I ""11•,,-v~ber Mark Isackson coming to
the CRA meeting and tal · ut how he had restructured that debt
So, that it would not be S ostly to them. And now we have a
situation where it's fina y c icking. We have huge investments on
Bayshore. No 's getting tax increment refunding. We have
individual bu ·n ss that have put down a significant amount of
money--
t
IONER McDANIEL: Right.
"'~.,,i.i..SSIONER TAYLOR: --individual proprietors
~-. ..... ..._t the area. We never discussed refunding the TIF, and I
't see this right now.
I was asked --I had a meeting with this gentleman, very
intelligent and very creative man who wants to do this, and he said, I
just don't understand. I get it in Palm Beach. I get it, you know, in
other places. Why not here? I said, because you're walking
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distance to the Naples Beach. You're walking distance to Fifth
Avenue. That's why.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. Also we're going to
have --this has been money --inspiration money to encourag ~---__,_ e
to come to the area, but it's going to end. You-all voted n
extend it, So, we've got an end date right there. Q
And we have nothing to give other people. An e want to
encourage more development, we can't just give t · y because it
leaves us with about nothing, and So, I'm real o se to it.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. All 1g t. I've --when I
first --I don't see anybody else's light lit ere. When I first
discussed this with Mr. Yovanovich_. e on was, why would we
do this? How do we distinguish t weflt"l this property owner and
everyone else in the Bayshore tria But as I've listened, I do
understand the magnitude of !]..~· estment, the location of this --of
the project. ~
I think I could suppo aving staff come back with some
recommendations and s me analysis, but I have some --if we do vote
to do that --and t looks like it might depend on Commissioner
Solis before ~jll er with here. But if this does come back, I
have some v ~~gnificant issues. One is the precedential value of
this. If w out of the clear blue grant some TIF financing to this
proj · ally, after the fact, what about the next guy that is going
to e · and ask for the same thing? So, that would be a real
di t hurdle for me to get over.
Secondly, I would need to know the amount and what type of
return that the county ultimately will be getting from this project.
So, this would be, from my view, even if I vote to put this on
another agenda, there are some very difficult hurdles to get over.
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But I think it's fair to give you that opportunity. But I'm, from the
outset, letting you know that you've got two no votes over here
already. I'm in the middle of the yes and no vote leaning towards the
no vote. And so, if it does come back, you'd have a really difficult
hurdle to get over. ~
Having said that, Commissioner McDaniel, you're lit up ...,.,,..,,,...,..._.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Commissioner Soli , ike
to hear what you have to say before I wrap up. 0
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay. I think it's worth
giving the owner or the contract purchaser the opt-!:-,C,-,,-... ,r:-.,.,."1.l-' ... _ty to present
it. I mean, I think I agree with what Commis · n a nders has
said. I mean, there are some serious hurdles, n , because, you
know, the property was originally purcha w·thout it. We've heard
the current owner say that they'd go .fo r ith it, but I think
it's --it would be the right thing t ~ ive the purchaser an
opportunity to make their case un r anding that, you know, staff
isn't necessarily behind it. ~
There's some issues e been identified already. But I
think, in fairness, we sho et them at least do their analysis, if
they're going to pa for ·t, present it, and make the best case they can.
But, yeah, · nk I'm somewhere in the middle in terms of --
CHAI N UNDERS: All right. Well, let's entertain a
motion, th n, o hether we're going to put this on another agenda.
o discuss it any further, I don't think.
~~,, ...... SSIONER McDANIEL: I'll make that motion.
IRMAN SAUNDERS: We have a motion. Is there a
se'-.1 --Jllll<L? I'll second the motion. And, again, this is just to put it on a
futu e agenda --
CO MMIS SI ONER McDANIEL: Right.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: --for discussion. No indication
of favorability.
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Can I say one thing,
Mr. Chair?
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yeah but make it quick
because --because we need to move on.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: It will be quick. I just ~
wanted to say I share your concerns. I share the concerns th ~~
Commissioner Taylor brought up. I share the concerns tha~
Commissioner Fiala brought up. This isn't a slam du e , you get
it because we gave it to somebody else, but I think it' ething we
should look at from a policy standpoint, so ...
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. ~ ea motion and
second to put this on a future agenda. All in t ~ot, ignify by saying
aye. (',_
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: ~e~ -ro
COMMISSIONER FIALA: ~~,,
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS:
COMMISSIONER McD.-.--.--~ Aye.
CHAIRMAN SA
COMMISSIONER
CHAIRMAN SA~
Opposed?
LOR: Opposed.
RS: I believe that passes 4-1; is that
correct? All ri
MR.YO
CHA
ICH: Thank you.
SAUNDERS: So, you actually got a little bit
,_....111'1-here on the vote.
~_..,"-JV ANOVICH: We understand the hurdles, and we'll
e information. Thank you.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ON GENERAL TOPICS NOT ON THE
CURRENT OR FUTURE AGENDA
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. We're on to Item 7, the
public comments on items not on the agenda. Do we have any
registered speakers?
MR. MILLER: Yes, we do, Mr. Chairman. I have three ~
registered. Two in person, one online. Your first speaker w ·
Garrett Beyrent, and he will be followed by --let me recall ........ ..,...,..~ ....
here --Barbara Dennison and then David Grogan. Q
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. Mr. Beyr od
morning. No statues this morning?
MR. BEYRENT: No. Actually, that's ere, though.
For the record, Garrett F.X. Beyrent, lobbyist, r everybody that's
not lobbied for.
In any case, I'm here specifical y .,,_,.,,,, ... nee what I determine
to be your awards, okay. Everyb a great job. A scale from 1
to 5, everybody got a 5. I was ki wondering why the County
Attorney got a 3 point some o ..._._ ..... ,..,..... Didn't make any sense to me,
So, I thought, maybe so s ould come up with a number
where everybody can agr pon when it's good, and that would be
the number 5, okax. ✓
Now, I'm s ifically here to address something that occurred
five years ag Th was when I weaseled my way into the
Economic e pment Council, the accelerator program. I actually
...., ........ ..,..,eting. I wasn't supposed to be there, and it parlayed
..,,~~~ ........ g very interesting, because Commissioner Solis, who I
rst award to --he's over there, okay --I was kind of like
i g all my bets that when he made his trip to Sophia Antipolis,
whi h is the largest smart park in Europe, that he'd come back --and
he was the only person that actually went --and he'd realize that we
could actually steal corporations from Europe and bring them here
and have them set up their headquarters right here, and then they
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could come and visit us and bring all their economic benefit to us.
Unfortunately for me, he didn't register with France and go back
and really get into the program because he --he found a higher
calling, which was to work with another organization I was involved
with many years ago, and that's the David Lawrence Society, me 1
~~. ~
So, I'll kind of like --I don't know where I'm going an -~,re. I
always look at Burt Saunders, because he was my atto
And my other attorneys --I had 1 7 attorneys here, an--L . ..,., was
always my favorite was Burt because Burt --he's s the kind of
guy that has the personality that can deal with g.
And as far as Commissioner Solis goes, I ou well with
TLC. And that's all I have to say. C, _
So, everybody got a 5. Thank.y . JO
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: ...... ~,L,... you. Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next s a: er is Barbara Denson, and she
will be followed by David Gr~............. Ms. Denson, are you with us
online? Ms. Denson? ~
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN SA"l}'J RS: All right. David Grogan?
Mr. Grogan? A
MS. DE ~~ Good morning. I'm here, sir.
MR. IL R: Okay. All right. Thank you, Ms. Denson.
ase proceed. You have three minutes.
~~....,.,_ SON: Yes. Good morning. My name is Barbara
d I have a large family home childcare here in Collier
for over 29 years, and I applied for the small business
relaunch/rehire grant, and I was denied because I'm a home-based
business. And I want to know the qualifications of this grant and
how can we get approved for this grant.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: What grant is it?
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MS. DENSON: The relaunch/rehire for small business.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: CARES Act.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Why don't we suggest that that
staff --if you'll give staff some contact information, we'll just have
somebody contact you and try to figure out what that --what th~
issue is there. Is that okay with you, Mr. Ochs? ~
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. We'll make that contact this m~~ing.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Do we h ~~Ji r contact
information, or do you have that? ~~
MR. OCHS: Yeah. Apparently, she's an a LAS:7"!11 .. ...,_, __ ...... t. We have
the lady's name, So, we'll be able to make co ___ """-t.
MR. MILLER: I will work with my Zoo eople and make
sure we have a contact information on th . Sir, thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: 1}11 . hank you.
MR. MILLER: Your final s e nder public comment is
David Grogan.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDE ood morning.
MR. GROGAN: ming. I was here earlier this year to
talk about the fraud occu · in our condominium and homeowner
associations. You ac ~w edged that it is, in fact, a problem but
passed it off as ... ,,,...,.Lte issue as if you were helpless to do anything
about it. I re ct y ask you to reconsider your position.
bably heard the expression "it takes a village to
ell, it takes a village to combat fraud.
ike to point out some great advice contained in the
al bestselling book of all time titled "The Best Instruction
r Leaving Earth," and that advice is, evil flourishes when good
le do nothing.
But today I'm here to talk about something else. I'd like you to
join me in recognizing the evening of January 1st as Blue Light Night
in Collier County where we show our appreciation for our law
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enforcement officers by lighting a blue light outside of our
residences.
The majority of our police officers perform a very difficult job
with honor and integrity each and every day. It is not right to take
the actions of bad police officers and broadbrush everyone else.
Blue lightbulbs will be made available for purchase thro
Collier County, and the proceeds will benefit the Collier 10
which is a local charity that provides financial assistanCJ>,
of first responders. ~~
I'd like to thank you for your time.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you~ 1 suggest, if
you would, send us an email or something to r;!erate what you've
just said, and then we can --(', _
MR. GROGAN: Sure. J'Q
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: -1der what we want to do
individually on that. So, thank
MR. GROGAN: Thank 11
r that.
MR. MILLER: T ~r~iul the speakers we had for Item 7,
Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN SA~
Mr. Ochs.
MR. OC es, sir. Commissioners, we move to advertised
your agenda this morning.
A !NANCE OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS OF COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA
AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 04-74, THE ORANGE BLOSSOM
RANCH PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (PUD), TO
INCREASE THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS
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FROM 1,600 TO 1,950; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE
NORTH AND SOUTH SIDES OF OIL WELL ROAD (C.R. 858)
APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE EAST OF IMMOKALEE ROAD
(C.R. 846) IN SECTIONS 13, 14 AND 24, TOWNSHIP 48 SO
RANGE 27 EAST, AND SECTION 19, TOWNSHIP 48 SO
RANGE 28 EAST, COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA CON
OF 616+/-ACRES -MOTION TO CONTINUE TOT __ ~
MEETING -APPROVED
MR. OCHS: Item 9 A requires ex parte c r be provided
by commission members, and all participants cf e e uired to be
sworn in. This is a recommendation to a ove an ordinance
amending the Orange Blossom Ran ~h ... "'l!lil _._J, ... ~ Unit Development to
increase the maximum number of -.,,.r-., g units from 1,600 to 1,950
units, and this property is located th the north and south sides of
Oil Well Road approximately ile east of Immokalee Road.
CHAIRMAN SA ~~◄~.. All right. Let's --
MR. OCHS: Ex pa
CHAIRMAN SA~ Yeah. Let's start with the ex
parte, and then ' 1 swear in all of the witnesses.
We'll st it ommissioner McDaniel.
CO I NER McDANIEL: Yes. Good morning. I
gs, emails, and phone calls on this item.
AN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Taylor.
MISSIONER TAYLOR: The same: Meetings, emails,
~·-one calls.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: And, Commissioner Solis?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Various emails and a meeting with
Mr. Yovanovich.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: And, Commissioner Fiala.
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. I've had meetings with the
applicant and his counsel, I've gotten emails, and that's it.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: And I've had meetings as well as
emails and telephone calls concerning that project as well.
And if we'll swear in the witnesses.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affi
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you. Mr. Yovan
MR. YOVANOVICH: Good morning. For the r r , Rich
Yovanovich on behalf of the applicant.
I have a host of people here with me who can,;:-.:;f'~.;.:er questions
that I can't answer. I have Anthony Solomo~~--.::~~ e onto Group;
Carl Barraco from Barraco & Associates. He o r civil engineer for
the project; Jennifer Sap en is one of the p ne s on the property.
She's also with Barraco & Associat~s; esh, our transportation
consultant is here; and Mr. Mulhe t ole Montes will be
assisting me in the presentation of project.
As the County Manager I..L'U'.._. ...... ..,,..,d out, this property is located on
both the north and south · ._.__..___,il Well Road. It's an existing
PUD. It is 616 acres. It rrently approved at 1,600 dwelling
units at 2.8 dwellin u ~s per acre.
The reques to add an additional 350 units in the area where
you see futur ve ment, which would bring the overall project
density to .4 lling units per acre.
This i · tle bit of a unique piece of property. Mr. Mulhere
will .,._,~~ through a little bit of greater detail. It's a settlement
four sections of land that is intended to developed as an
uru,-.. .... ,L~roject at urban densities. And as we're all aware, the urban
den 1ty in Collier County is four units per acre. We are asking to
add a few units and still remain significantly under the four units per
acre.
I was engaged after the Planning Commission meeting. I
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reviewed the Planning Commission presentation, and I was actually
in the audience for another matter, So, I got to observe it at the same
time. And I got to hear firsthand what the public comments or
concerns were at that hearing. And it was related to, in reality, the
development on the north side of the road, because that's where st
of the homes exist today and the concerns related to develop ~e
the north side of the road, because the initial thought was t~3 0
units were being added to the north side. And people o north
side were saying, we already have enough units . Do
more units on the north side of the road.
So, their concerns were the need for addi · n
code-required parking is being provided on the h' side, but there
was concerns that because the typical pur ser in this community is
a working family with kids who are .in =_,._,..,,-..., --and we'll show you
how close the schools are --there ore than the typical number
of vehicles associated with the res e sin that community. So, the
residents had concerns about ~ .................. g.
There was a conce Ymta""-l..1it ere was only one way in and one
way out to the project on north and south. So, a second means of
egress --ingress and eg;ess, the community felt, was necessary and,
as well, a potent· concern about overtaxing the amenities.
I did spe to e of the primary objectors about her concerns,
and when --th concerns quickly went away when I explained to
her that the s were actually on the south side of the road.
~)lllilil~·"-'-, oh, I wish I'd have understood that. I wouldn't have
ncern I had. But she goes, there were other concerns, too.
e you going to address those?
And what we had --before I even spoke to her, we had already
committed to the following additional items to be in the PUD.
First of all, before we got the benefit of any of the additional
units, we had to construct an additional 150 parking spaces within the
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project, and we have an exhibit that gets attached to the PUD to show
you where those 150 parking spaces are going to be.
We also had a commitment that we would not get a CO for any
of those additional units until we had two means of ingress and egress
on the north side of Oil Well Road to the project as well as two
me~ns of ingress and egress on the south side of Oil Well Ro ~ e
proJect. ~..,
And, finally, we agreed --and that's also in the PU Q.nd then
we agreed to a second --there's already an amenity c ~~ .. ·~--n the
south side of Oil Well Road. We agreed to enha
larger amenity center, make it more of a reso 1 .1."",...,.1..1..1.
similar to the amenity center on the north side e project.
So, all of those conditions were adde o t e PUD before I even
spoke to the woman who had raised.co:.~.:::.--<ft:' And she said, you've
addressed my concerns by doing t · 'm sure the concerns of
many of my friends who also had e ame concerns.
So, Bob will take you thr · n a little bit greater detail how all
of those are in the PUD .,~..,_evisions to the master plan
associated with that.
By way of a little · t of history, when we continued the item the
last time, there a companion item on the agenda for a developer
agreement w r R to, as the developer, has been working with
Collier Co nt er the years to assist the county whenever it needed
some addit ~~~= help with roads, et cetera, even though it was not an
llt)'itli._·,,,.I. the PUD to do so.
o approved, on your last agenda, one of those commitments .
.---. .... ,c-, aside 150,000 cubic yards of fill for the county to use in the
cou ty's projects. That went forward on the last agenda.
We've given additional right-of-way for the road leading to the
county's park; that was not a requirement of the PUD. We've
provided a utility easement along the south portion of the property,
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again, to help the county with future well sites and raw water lines.
And we've worked with the county on the county's drainage of the
park to assist in the county's park moving forward, all at no cost to
the county and simply because Ronto is a good neighbor and wanted
to cooperate with the county. ~
Bob is going to take you through the planning concepts~'\~
Hopefully at the end of this you will follow your staff's ~
recommendation which was to recommend approval of -------.--.,--oject.
And with that, I'll tum it over to Mr. Mulhere. -" ~
MR. MULHERE: Thank you, Rich. ""~
Good morning. For the record --take t · o~~
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you.
MR. MULHERE: You can hear m ~_!!er without that. For
the record, Bob Mulhere with Hole ~ ~
And, Rich, I think, really we --I've attached myself to
this mask. Rich went over the sal points, but I'll try to go over
them from a planning perspec · a little bit more detail.
If you look on the v· ...,.,..,_._'l...., ... , you'll see on the county's overall
Future Land Use Map the ation of the settlement area. Well, I
have an arrow, but it's tjght there. Thank you. Thank you, Leo. I
like to use that hine there.
actually,
cans
o n Gate Area Master Plan. The property,
the Golden Gate Area Master Plan. So, again, you
~~,, ........ SSIONER McDANIEL: I think back in the old days it
ly designated as Golden Gate City North.
R. MULHERE: It was. It was, prior to that settlement. It
was going to be a second Golden Gate City.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Golden Gate City; four
square miles, same size.
MR. MULHERE: So, as we discussed --yes. There it is right
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there. You beat me to the punch.
It was zoned and platted back in the days where these kinds of
plats were routinely approved, generally --often in locations where
there were no services.
So, there was a lawsuit, and there was a settlement in 1986, d
that settlement allowed for 2,100 dwelling units, 22 acres ~f., '\ ~
commercial. This area now includes, as we indicated, bot~
Orangetree and Orange Blossom PUDs. 0
Just as a point of information, the district allows · ential,
earth mining, commercial, agricultural, communit ~i'Vlit'l ltles,
community uses, educational facilities, religi __ ~_a: · ities. So, it
allows a lot of uses that are also helpful, some a be not so, but
those that are helpful for this type of loca · tHat will have urban
style development. • ~
This is hard to read. I'll go ,,_.,.,.tt\,eal quickly. I just wanted
to point out a couple of policies in LUE and the Golden Gate
Area Master Plan. Policy 5.7 · FLUE says that the county will
encourage the use of Ian --.... --~-. ..!.-e me, designated for urban intensity
uses before designating o areas for urban intensity uses, and that's
because there's an eco ~y of scale there. You have the ability to
serve those urba eas at a lower cost and greater efficiency.
It also s s tha he rural settlement district is --also known as
North Gol e, is one of those areas. Then, within the Golden
Gate Area_.__ .. ..,.., er plan, it says that future zoning changes within the
settl ~~ea to add dwelling units or commercial acreage will not
b A'ff'IIIIW"'I • ted or discouraged by reason of the above-referenced
status. That is the vested status from the settlement. So, I
those are somewhat important policies.
Rich indicated that there were a lot of services in this location,
and I think if you look at this exhibit, you can see that that is the case.
The county is providing for a new --new regional utility plant
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upgrades. That's located right there.
We have the Sheriffs Office and EMS and Collier County
Fairgrounds; right there. You're all very familiar with the regional
park; right here. You have Palmetto Ridge High School, Corkscrew
Elementary and Middle School. This is a future commercial si ~
right here. There is a utility plant right here. And you will
additional future retail in here, and you have retail right her . T is is
where the Publix exists. And you have a fire station al .___, ...... ~ n here.
So , all of the services that are needed to serve a ~~-~~unity
developed at urban levels of density --which, as w . ...._..___,w, the base
density is four units per acre. This is less tha a
Just to give you a status of the developme t. I s anticipated,
based on the current absorption rate, that of e remaining exhibits
[sic] will be developed and sold wit pi o wo years. So, these
additional 350 units, which will b · area. It will take about
maybe a year to plat it, and then it' a: icipated that that development
will occur over the next two )::: s well. I don't think I have to tell
you this: There's very s ---~---mand. And, of course , in this
location this will meet a n for folks who are --for working folks
in Collier County. ✓
The master n is unchanged; same uses and buffers and
setbacks. A , of urse, this project is compatible with the
surroun la se and complies with your --either does or will
com r LDC and does comply with --is consistent with the
G
, ich went over these. I just wanted to give you a visual
ex ~----e. It's interesting, because I live in a community that has a lot
of, you know, working-class folks and with children who are driving,
and I experience the same thing. And we have some additional
overflow parking because the community has shorter or smaller
driveways, and it's hard to fit all the cars in the driveway. And
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rather than park them on the street, there's some overflow spaces.
So, that's the purpose of this. That was the comment that was made.
The developers agreed to and looked at this project and located a
number of locations where we can provide for a total of 150
additional spaces, and those are going to be developed concurren
with the surrounding infrastructure improvements. ~
And then, which makes a lot of sense, there was conc ............ ~bout
the impact of the additional density on a single point of · r ss and
egress north and south of Oil Well, So, there is a sec int of
ingress and egress, and it's located right here. An way,
that's the road that will lead up towards the re · n There's
internal access to the regional park as well.
And then there were concerns expre a out the fact that there
was a resort-style amenity center on. th _.___,~.~.., ....... side and a smaller not
quite as robust amenity center exi -w-... :f"1111.'"',._ ... the south side and that
maybe all of the folks from the so H 1de were using the north side.
Same community. But the d er understood that, and I think it
also benefits him from a "MdO!llo..-.... "'.1-:1 ng perspective; he went in and
redesigned a resort-style a nity center adding to what exists on the
south side. So, we bel · ve that we've addressed those concerns.
I think it's ificant to mention that all --a majority of the
units are wit · q er mile and all of the units are within a
half-mile th amenity centers. So, it's very walkable. You
·ve your car to get to it.
<1.~~.,· st wanted to show this: The --the internal access to the
· h is right --the access to the park from Oil Well is right
---.,~,-nd there's an internal access right here. And we've worked
with staff to have that design.
I think we already went over these stipulations. I won't spend a
lot of time. I'm sure you have a busy agenda. But, you know, all of
those conditions that we've agreed to will be adhered to as a part of
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the PUD and also before the impacts from the residential units are
realized or experienced.
So, we think this is a great location. It's one of those situations
where you have schools capacity, police protection, water, sewer, and
shopping, So, you really have all of the ingredients that are ~
appropriate in this location. ~
As we said, it's 3.4 units per acre, which is less than th se
density --urban density of four. It's going to create ad·~ mix of
reasonably priced housing types, which is very adva ___,.;;_.,....,us. And,
really, that's how this project has already develope ere aren't
any adverse impacts, and we do have a staff r n ation of
approval.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Com ............ .,,..io er Fiala.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: X es rding the additional
parking, is that a --I can't figure o e it all is located. And is it
close to all of this shopping? Is i.,__,_u.,.ue to the housing? Is it off in a
corner? I just don't know, So d you show us a picture.
MR. MULHERE: ~rtX.J:.j o, the idea or the concern was that a
lot off olks had more than o vehicles, maybe more than three,
maybe four. So, it's h ~ --So, it really wasn't an issue of having it
located next to c mercial. There's parking available at the amenity
centers, but t~~e o in proximity. You can walk or you can
drive, So, ~~eren't an issue. It was really just, we need more
parking for ~-flow parking, because people were probably parking
on t ~~ n the north side.
YOV ANO VI CH: Commissioner Fiala, if I may, what
s trying to show you was if you see the future development
areas and the existing development where it says "development
permitted" on the north side of the road --I'm not as fancy as Bob .
Maybe I can try it and see. Parking would be added right here where
there are existing homes that need the additional parking. The
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amenity center is right here . People are actually parking in the
amenity center overnight with their vehicles. So, --because they're
working-class people, they bring their work vehicle home. It's
causing problems.
So, we're adding parking right where existing homes alread~,re
there to address the shortfall already as well as the shortfall w · ~}'
amenity center. And then down in this area right here whe..----"'•'
showed you the amenity center that's going to be expan
providing for additional parking down there to addre ..__.,.__.._ parking
shortfalls. So, we've strategically put the parkin the
problems already exist. ~
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Where the e 1s 1ng problems are?
MR. YOVANOVICH: Yes. Wher. he already exist, yes.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Q o --any further on your
presentation? ~
MR. YOVANOVICH: I thi ~fher than answering questions,
we're good. ~
CHAIRMAN SA 'ullli..,,, ............. 11R._ ,.: All right. We will have some
public comment. Before e get to public comment, let's see if
there's a staff --an staV response or any further questions from the
Commission. I ere are no other questions --
MR. OC mes. Sir, I'm sorry. We're just waiting to get
this cleane
MR . .....,,.,, .... ~ Thank you.
-"~~iorn1ng.
IRMAN SAUNDERS: Good morning.
MMISSIONER FIALA: Good morning.
MR. SABO: For the record, James Sabo, principal planner with
the county.
Pretty straightforward. The developer did a great job of
summising [sic] and summarizing the entire project.
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The motion to deny was made at the September 19th, 2019,
meeting of the Planning Commission. They have since made those
changes, mitigated some of the comments made and concerns by the
residents, So, they have addressed those here today.
Our recommendation is to respectfully disagree with the '-.
Planning Commission and recommend approval for Orange B~, ~'l'i
Ranch, and that is essentially our recommendation. ~
I'll entertain any questions. 0
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Ta---.-..·-
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah,just a
questions. Is this particular development, Or
little confused. Is it in the RFMUD or the RL
MR. SABO: It is RLSA. No. Ne· er
MR. MULHERE: Neither.
MR. SABO: Sorry, sorry. •
MR. MULHERE: It's in the e ement area. It's neither in the
Rural Fringe Mixed District n~RLSA. Special settlement area,
four sections of land. ~ ~
COMMISSIONER LOR: The RLSA is right next door.
MR. MULHERE:✓To the east, yes.
MR. SAB OA'The settlement district happened before I got here,
So, I apologi ~~ ~
CHA ,__f'T-i SAUNDERS: Any questions for staff?
.. ,--.-aylor.
"'~.,,i.i..SSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah, just another question.
miliar with the policy that we have that when we grant
ed density, we do it before [sic] a public purpose?
MR. SABO: I understand that. I do understand that. Our
recommendation was based on the fact that they're still under the four
units per acre --the county standard for four units per acre that's
based --that's what our recommendation is based on.
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Without any consideration of
the public?
MR. SABO: Well, it is considered to be consistent with public
policy to be at four units per acre or less, So, that's what our
recommendation is based on. ~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: But it's also consistent .
public policy that, when we grant increased density, we do ·
there is an advantage to the public and one of those adv ~JIIWl,l,!=,1'-'
creation of affordable housing that stays , not the Ric
defined affordable housing. s
MR. SABO: Understood. ~
MR. YOVANOVICH: May I respond sir~~ey u brought my
name up? (',_
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR:. I ~tchingyoupace.
MR. YOVANOVICH: I fig --r,:i-. were --I don't know.
First of all, I've been doing th ong time. I don't recall any
policy anywhere in the Growt --.a-"-1~ ...... agement Plan that requires
affordable housing unles"_""__ ant to go above the base density
within the Growth Manag ent Plan. Since we're staying within the
base density of the Gro th anagement Plan, which is four units per
acre in urban ar I think the policy, subject to your citing me to a
different poli , do 't apply to this circumstance.
You ys allowed to come in and ask to amend a PUD to
1ncre as long as it's consistent with the Comprehensive
Pl ~__."""s you know, projects change over time. Initially, these
w ~ar o g to be big lots, expensive homes, but there's a tremendous
de · e nd demand for moderately priced homes, and this project met
that aemand. And we'll be continuing to provide for that demand.
And that's why we're in asking for the increase in density consistent
with the urban density of four units per acre.
So, I'm not aware of any policy that would require even the Rich
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Yovanovich portion or plan for affordable housing.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: What I meant was, is that the
issue of affordable housing is a huge challenge countywide, and I'd
like to see if there's any --I think these are for sale, correct?
MR. YOVANOVICH: Absolutely. ~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: For sale. ,, '\ ~
MR. YOVANOVICH: For-sale product. ~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And the price poi 0
MR. YOVANOVICH: The price points are in you know,
the 220-to 350-range. Obviously, there's going r.:i::.r.~ ...... , ome homes
that may have higher upgrades that are pushe o to 400,000.
But the price points for this project is the price o nt that you've been
asking me to have my clients develop at. , I would hope that the
Commission would say we're going.to ~-..-.-~ increased density even
consistent with the Comprehensiv ecause we're targeting that
market and price points.
COMMISSIONER TAY . Well, usually there's some
guarantees and lengths o · and there's some --when it's
affordable housing, under ding that this market is a hot market
and prices are goin to ~ up. I mean, it's clear that it's a very smart
move on the pa....--.--•T this development and the developer to do this
because you' ed it. I mean, it's a --it was a sales brochure
that was p ese to us, but that's not what I'm concerned about.
I'm conce ~-.. ._out the issue of affordable housing and the lack of --
~_.,,"-.JV ANOVICH: And we are addressing the need for
priced housing, which your Comprehensive Plan talks
t And if you look at the community --
CO MMIS SI ONER TAYLOR: Right.
MR. YOVANOVICH: --and the price points from that
community today, that's the target market. It's not going to rapidly
increase in value, because that's the market that exists, and that's the
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market we're targeting. These units aren't going to automatically
double in value because of the fact that there's a demand to move to
Florida. There are people targeting --and you'll see in other
presentations. They're targeting this price point because it's a price
point that there's an active market for. And you want to get peo
in Collier County to work here, live here, and stay here, and tQ~
what we're trying to do. ~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes, sir. 0
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. We'll ·-"·~on, then,
on to public comment. ~~
MR. MILLER: Yes. Mr. Chairman, w ~ o registered
speakers. Both speakers are online. I want t r ind those
speakers that we will unmute you, but the n'~u may have to unmute
yourself. • JO
Your first speaker is Valerie o ick, and she will be
followed by Rodger Meany.
Ms. N owottnick, are yo "'b ~
are you with us, ma'am? "-,I
Valerie N owottnick,
MS. NOWOTTNIC Yes, sir, I am.
CHAIRMAN SA"(}'J RS: If you would remind the speakers
that they have t minutes.
MR. MI R: Yes, ma'am. Ms. Nowottnick, you have three
minutes. .,.__,,.__T....---. go ahead.
MS. TTNICK: Thank you.
-"~_,...ioming, Commissioners. I appreciate this opportunity to
s ~~,,rllilllil::. you today regarding this agenda item specifically the
po al approval of an increased number of dwelling units to be
built in our existing community.
My name is Valeria Nowottick, and I was recently elected
president of the Savannah Trace Residents Association, which is the
community association for the single-family residences located in the
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Groves at Orange Blossom.
The Groves at Orange Blossom is located on the south side of
Oil Well Road and is a sister community to the Ranch at Orange
Blossom, which is located on the north side of Oil Well Road.
Savannah Trace consists of 13 7 single-family manor homes,
few of which have been here for over 14 years. Pulte orig!~
began developing this area but abandoned the property sho ~l'rer
constructing a few model homes. The community sat ~-~-nt until
approximately five years ago when the current <level
the property and contracted with Lennar to finish gout the
remaining lot sites. ~
As of today, we have one home remainin!\uncler construction
and, upon completion, our community wi e completely built out.
I sent an email to our homeowu er clay asking for their
feedback and opinions regarding t · 1cation for additional
dwelling units. All of the respon s ceived --and by the way, a
majority of our homeowners ~~ o <led. Not one homeowner was in
favor of this request. T · · ~ampling of the comments given:
Lennar did not disclo the proposed townhomes when they
were offering the manoj,homes for sale. Classic bait/switch selling
scheme. A
Lennar s ~r ~nd reassured potential buyers, including myself,
that only mes would be located in the Groves. There was
wnhomes at any point, and townhomes are not
~...,.., ...... a community consisting of solely single-family
e developers proposing to route traffic through our
sma er-footprint community to access the additional homes,
including the proposed townhomes, which will further stress our
infrastructure in Savannah Trace. The access into our community is
extremely dangerous, as we have no dedicated right turning lane to
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come into the Groves off Oil Well Road. Increasing the amount of
vehicles stopping on Oil Well Road to make a right-hand turn into the
Groves is reckless and irresponsible on the Planning Commission's
part.
The developer has made no commitment to install a
traffic-control device at the intersection of the Ranch and the
on Oil Well Road. Our current traffic relies on a cross-ov A'r'lllllii,ll
must be navigated for both northbound and southbound
Well Road, as well as the ingress and egress of traffi ~~·.~~
community.
At the current build rate, the singular int · ec · an barely
function with the volume of residents using it d ily basis,
especially at peak times during rush hour,~ l h majority of our two
communities are working-class resi ~e JO
Increasing the number of uni ...-. ..... ,-.-~y 350 homes would not
only further tax the vehicle impac a ing an additional 700 cars or
more to our community with ~rs per household, but also the
number of children --~ ~
CHAIRMAN SA RS: Excuse me. I'm going to have to
ask you to wrap this up retty quickly here. Your time is up. But
go ahead and wr up real quickly, if you would.
MS. NO T ICK: I appreciate the accommodation for the
additional ime. Thank you.
So in · ng, although I didn't get to touch on all the points that
the h~~.,, ...... ers wanted to make, we want to impress upon the
.._. ..... _ ...... _·, s · ners the importance of evaluating this particular petition
sidering all of the current issues that exist with the residents
ive here now, much less introducing another potential 700 or
more residents into this already overtaxed area.
We implore the commissioners to please deny this petition as the
current residents cannot afford to have any more residents come into
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the area without the necessary infrastructure in place, including
additional amenities to support over 700 residents.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Thank you very much.
MR. MILLER: Thank you.
Mr. Chairman, our final speaker on this item is Rodger Mea
Mr. Meany, if you'll please unmute yourself. And I will rem·
that you have three minutes. Are you with us, Mr. Meany?
MR. MEANY: Yes, I am. ,t 0
MR. MILLER: Please begin, sir. ~~
MR. MEANY: Hi. My name's Roger Mea~ ma resident
and homeowner in the Groves at Orange Blos .
The developer's staff has been less than h e t ith you. They
speak about retail and commercial land b · right outside our
doorways when, in fact, it is a three .a -mile drive to the
Publix, CVS, nail place, and Chin
Immokalee Road. We do not hav mmercial use or stores to shop
at, as they speak, right outside r evelopment.
Now, when I boug.,T ---, I was told by Lennar salesmen as
well as when I asked, wh the land premium $10,000 more on the
Groves than on the Ra h side, and why are the homes $40,000 to
$70,000 more i e Groves? I was answered with, the Groves will
have manor ... ......., ......... es ly; 13 7 of them. We will not have condos,
townhome ything else. This is pure greed by the developer.
I bou,......,.,.,, ...... the Groves under the pretense that it would be manor
~~-------at I would be sharing my land with condos, townhomes,
I would have bought on the Ranch side if I wanted that.
ey speak before putting in another amenity center on the
Grove side. They failed to tell you that the pool, tennis court, and
pickleball court are rarely used by anybody on this side. We've
already been assessed for one clubhouse that has resort-style
amenities. Now they want to hit us with a second one, and there is
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no way that they can tell me that we will not feel the effect of them
building a second amenity center to facilitate another 700-plus
residents with 350 units.
The density is, as Ms. Nowottnick said, with traffic is atrocious.
There was a fatality on Oil Well Road a month ago and three da
later another major accident. I don't know when the last traf
was, I believe it was 2018, but there's been a lot more const ion in
Ave Maria. Arthrex has increased their staff, and now ] t e homes
that have finished on the Ranch side , as well as the o at finished
on the Groves.
We have no traffic control signal. Our ...._I>¼._ ..... ~ h ve to go out
to Oil Well Road to be picked up for the eleme ta school, okay,
and there's no place for them to go. Add ~Q.. ore kids on 350
units, and you're going to have a ni ~ht re-Q
The builder is doing this out . They do not need to
have these units attached to our de e pment. They're more than
free to use their land in a sepa velopment, but to bait and switch
the homeowners that hav UlillL _.L .. -.-..y purchased, and now they have
come before you only afte ey're completing the very last home in
this development that t~y ask you to give them more use of the land
and attach it to hen we all bought being told that there would be
no condos or~jnn es attached to our property over here.
Tha ~~
CHA ~-•"'n-....N SAUNDERS: Thank you, sir.
,, .. ,~..,,.._.Ler speakers?
MILLER: That was your final speaker, Mr. Chairman.
AIRMAN SAUNDERS: We'll close the public hearing.
We' open this up now for discussion from the Commission, unless
you have some response.
MR. YOVANOVICH: Just a couple of --I just want to address
a few of those comments.
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We're in that typical situation where someone says, the
developer promised me X. Well, the developer is Ronto. Lennar is
one of the builders in the community. I don't know what Lennar
promised, but I would be surprised if they ever promised there would
never be development on the vacant piece of property that I don~
know --I would doubt that any developer would say that all t ~
white area is going to remain open and vacant for the entire f the
project. 0
The PUD has always allowed for a multifamily · 1ng
townhome concept to be developed on that prope
According to Ronto, they've never asses a o the residents
for the construction of the clubhouse. Maybe e confusing it with
the annual HOA assessments that everyb ays to live in a
community, but there has been no a ~se.L .. ., ...... "'... elated to the current
clubhouse and the proposed --all osed amenities that we
were discussing will be at Ronto's x nse. There will be no
assessment to the residents wJJ.~ currently living there to have
those amenities provide ~
We have addressed t oncerns of the community regarding
access. That's wh we ave two access points now to address people
being able to co in and out of the community. They may have
been correct tn · r comment about all the traffic when you were
limited to ..,_.,..... ~ in and one way out. That was a concern that was
raise · ave one way in and one way out. That's why we
ha ~.__._,,_,__ ... .,~nd access point to address those concerns.
ld by county staff that there's not a plan for a traffic signal
at ntersection but, obviously, if there's one in the future, we
wou d support that. But I don't know what the plans are with Oil
Well Road and the potential of traffic signal there.
The project is a good project. It's meeting a need. It addressed
all of the concerns that were raised regarding safety and access to the
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project, as well as parking, as well as amenities, and we hope that the
Board of County Commissioners can follow staffs recommendation
of approval.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I do have a question for our staff
concerning the access points and the issues concerning congestio
and whether or not these additional units will create any kind ~
problem for the existing residents in terms of egress and in U'1'11iil,J .. ,1..:.
MS. SCOTT: For the record, Trinity Scott, Trans .... ,. __ ·-... w.•"l,.,.,'W-10n
Planning Manager. And I'm sorry, I was walking in -'" ... ._ issed part
of your question.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: The questi
concern raised by one of the public-comment s e ers concerning
congestion and additional traffic , especia in e neighborhood,
but --getting access out of the neig b~~~ from that project, and I
assume the staff has done some e ___ . ...,..1 of that. And the question
is whether or not there's going to y significant negative impact
on congestion and transportaf t re.
MS. SCOTT: Wit 1...1411111..,..<Y<lifJ~-o Oil Well Road, the second
ingress/egress point will c inly split that traffic internal within the
southern portion. Ho,~t was originally proposed, they had one
ingress and egre So, those additional units would have gone
through the e s ing evelopment.
Now, wit at second ingress and egress, it will allow
them --the '~-r folks to come through this one as well.
~~~ond access point that they're proposing does line up with
t ~~-; ...... ~J.,'""" .... e·rcial parcel to the north as well as the access to the
re ~~.';"l park, and it also has a back entrance into the existing
resi ential on the north side as well. So, they will have access once
that commercial is developed.
As far as Oil Well Road specifically, based on the 2019 Annual
Update and Inventory Report, it's still operating at a Level of Service
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C with approximately 800 trips, plus or minus, remaining, and the
projected traffic for this particular development was 172 p.m.
peak-hour trips. So, there is sufficient capacity to handle this.
I would offer that there are three schools in this section of Oil
Well Road, So, certainly any of us who live or have to go throu_~~,---
school zone in the morning, there is increased congestion dur ·
those times, but we do work with the schools closely to try
that congestion as quickly as possible. Q
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Thank .,._ .. ~,,,
Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL:
wider network.
MS. SCOTT: Yes.
Befo The
COMMISSIONER McDANIE~: .... "'Wc ... L ~_._~_._ .... alee Road, So, on, the
wider network, how are we doing 1th regard to its capacity?
MS. SCOTT: Based on the O Annual Update and Inventory
Report, which would have be latest adopted, all of the segments
that this development wa act based on --how we do our
significantly impacted are sed on the transportation element, all of
those segments have sujficient capacity to handle the additional
traffic for this p ct.
COMM O R McDANIEL: Even in advance of
Vanderbil'
MS .
ruction to alleviate --
: They do for the 2019 Annual Update and
.1.1.1..,...~~port. But from a consistency standpoint, if one of those
would not have operated, the applicant would get the
_.____.__,.., for consistency purposes, to take any projects that what we
call are in the third, fourth, or fifth year of our work program into
consideration for consistency. So, that would include Vanderbilt
Beach Road extension from Collier Boulevard all the way to
Everglades, the 16th Street bridge that will connect Golden Gate
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Boulevard to Randall, Randall Boulevard from Immokalee Road to
8th Street, as well as Wilson Boulevard from Golden Gate to
Immokalee. So, there are quite a few improvements in that area that
will provide additional network to redistribute that traffic.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Pretty much all within t
next two years, if I'm not mistaken. ,, '\ ~
MS. SCOTT: The next five, yep. ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Taylo .o
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah. I'mjust ·ngatthis
document, and help me with this, Ms. Scott. Fro the
Immokalee Road from Wilson to Oil Well Ro
is at a Level D correctly [sic] right now, right?
MS. SCOTT: It is --based on the 2 ~-Xnnual Update and
Inventory Report, it's currently oper~tift_~evel of Service D with
476 remaining trips. ~ ~.,,
COMMISSIONER TA YLO · hat are we going to do?
MS. SCOTT: Well, we anderbilt Beach Road extension
that's coming online that · 1 o Everglades Boulevard, which we
believe will provide signi nt relief to Immokalee Road.
COMMISSIONE TAYLOR: And what about from Collier to
Wilson; the sa
MS. SC
CO I
. Are you still banking on Vanderbilt?
es.
NER TAYLOR: Okay. Well, that's an E right
ilson.
TT: It is currently a D in the 2019.
MISSIONER TAYLOR: 2024, pardon me. Yes, it will
three years it will be an E.
MS. SCOTT: That is the projected based on --we do
projections based on growth So, that we can plan accordingly,
because it does take us a little bit to get roadways built.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Are we --are we doing
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anything about addressing that with developers who want to increase
their density by 21 percent over what's existing now? What kind
of --what kind of leverage do we have as a county besides a vote of
no up here? What do you have?
MS. SCOTT: So, from our perspective, not a lot, because
would look at this based on the 2019 Annual Update and Inve
Report, which is the latest adopted by the Board. And bas"''-'-...............
capacity that's available and with the improvements that
projected, we would find them consistent. Now, wh ---~~----
forward for their plat or their Site Development Pl do get a
second bite at the apple, if you will. ~
So, if they came in from a concurrency st 01nt, and they
were impacting a deficient roadway seg ...... .&r,;_._,.t., e would look at their
plat and say, if there's not sufficient.ca e may have to enter
into a developer agreement. We ,,_,,...~-e to delay their project.
But that's at the concurrency. Th ' ot at this level.
COMMISSIONER TAY . Okay. So, those options are
still out there for --for t ~~n e --the taxpayers of Collier County?
MS. SCOTT: They , but there are pay-and-go provisions in
the state statute that wo ld allow the developer to be able to pay and
move forward, they do receive credit for any impact fees that
they would p . S , we would calculate what their proportionate
share wou d be r that improvement, and then they get a credit back
fees, So, depending on how much that improvement
~~.;r ........ uch additional capacity that they would consume. So,
t ~lllllb. a: omplex math problem that we have to do at a later date.
MMISSIONER TAYLOR: So, there really is no --we don't
really have any kind of leverage other than a vote of no up here?
MS. SCOTT: It depends on the specific project when we start
looking at the actual cost of the improvement.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you.
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. And just to further the
point with regard to our GMP and the necessity for the
construction --where you going, Trinity? This is actually --this has
to do with you. Don't leave me. I just --I wanted to --it was
understanding the Vanderbilt Beach extension's trigger came
back in 2006 for its construction for the population that ca"'i:...-. ...,....,~..,,-~ our
community by 2006, let alone the folks that have come · ~ past 14
years.
MS. SCOTT: That is correct. That project ,.,....~
needed back in --back when Nick was standi o
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah, r mber. So, I
just --I wanted to share --I wanted to sh tha , you know, a lot of
impacts of what we talk about with I e rowth and the
degradation of quality of life ofte ........... ,....., omes with decision-making
by our boards and supplying the n sary infrastructure requisites
that our GMP calls for based ~.............. population of the time, not 14
years later. _<,,
I did have a question~hank you, Trinity --
MS. SCOTT: Th111ks.
COMMISS ER McDANIEL: --for you, Rich, or Bob, one.
The law 1 th was brought forward back in the --in the late
'80s that d line d 21 total --2,100 units for that area, did that
include the · e four square miles of just this --these two
quad ?
YOVANOVICH: I should let Bob answer that question
be 11 e he was probably --I may have been still in high school at
that ime. But I wasn't. I was a freshman. I was a freshman in
college. But I'll answer --the answer is, it was the entire four
sections, and it clearly recognized that there would be future
expansion to that density as long as it was consistent with the
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Comprehensive Plan.
As you know, it was going to be another city, Golden Gate City.
So, the intent always was for an urban level density and intensity in
this area.
If I can, on the leverage question, I wanted to go back to th~
slide. The developer has always been cooperative with the c ,
and whenever the county needed something from the <level
didn't say, let us reverse leverage the county by saying,
something or else I'm not going to give it to you. T ... .-.... ....,,
always been a good developer and cooperated wh.....,.,... .... .._
needed something from the developer.
per has
unty
So, I don't think --I think you need to loo a it oth ways.
And I'm sure Nick will tell you that when 's eeded something
from Anthony Solomon, from Ront\?, en it, and we
would --we are just simply askin~,_ s consistent with the
Comprehensive Plan, and we me t9 Comprehensive Plan
requirements. ~
CHAIRMAN SA 'ullli..,, ............. 11R ... : Commissioner Fiala.
COMMISSIONER A: Yes. Thank you.
Two questions, pl~se. The first one: When do they expect
this to be built o
MR. YO N ICH: I think the anticipation is about year
and a hal w probably starting to sell homes on that piece of
time we plat it and put the infrastructure in place.
"'~.,, ........ SSIONER FIALA: And I'm keeping in mind while
_ ... ~ ...... ·ng about all of this, yes, it's 350 homes. I'm also seeing a
pli' a enon that we haven't ever had before, and that is with all of
the t ings that have been on, whether it be COVID or rioting or
whatever, people want to get out of some of those northern cities, and
they want to come down here, and we better be prepared for them just
like we've been working on our utility plants and our streets and So,
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forth So, that we're prepared and we're not caught short.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah. Mr. Yovanovich, please
note this was never personally directed at the developer that you
represent at all. It's more my awareness, frankly, that we've alw s,
as Collier County, been very friendly to developers. Not all
are friendly to developers, but we are one of them that are, -~~·-
all I needed to say. ,t 0
MR. YOVANOVICH: Okay. ~~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner niel.
No response is needed. We've got to ge t
MR. YOVANOVICH: I understand.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: --to a ~t!_ ere.
Commissioner McDaniel. ~ -ro
COMMISSIONER McDAN • ~~tl d I just --I wanted to ask
the applicant. There were some c __._~ .. "·~~ents brought up by the
homeowners association presi day and --because one of my
original questions in rev· ~ ..... is application was there was a point
in time where you were g to come back to the Planning
Commission, maybe ev,n have an additional neighborhood
information me · to better inform the residents as to what the
intentions we~an was wondering why you chose to not do those
things.
MR. NOVICH: Well --and you're correct. We initially
IL)illlil_.i<-' back and have a presentation, and then a little illness
alled COVID. We lost seven months of hearing time.
e, instead, communicated through oral conversations with
peo le as well as then coming back --just coming directly to you
based upon the changes in the scheduling, especially since the --as
Commissioner Fiala pointed out, the demand is there, and we didn't
have the additional time to go back. We need to move forward to
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meet that demand.
So, we elected to come back here and directly explain to you
how we addressed the concerns of the Planning Commission instead
of going back and explaining it to them as well.
And, candidly, there were Planning Commissioners who I'm ot
sure wanted us to come back. There were comments about, e
be taking up, unnecessarily, some of their time. So, we de d to
come directly here. ,t 0
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Right. ~~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. I thi 're ready for
a motion one way or the other, I think, on this · m, nless there's
some further discussion on the substance.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: 1, I --okay. Okay. I
heard some new things this momin~ i imony from some of
the residents that are there and dir t 1 pacted by it that I'm not
quite sure have been addressed, an at's where I --I was --I was
heading in that direction, so ... ~
CHAIRMAN SA 'ulll.L.oa ........... 11R'. _.: Well, we've got three choices.
We can send this back to Planning Commission, we can vote yes,
or we can vote no. So think we've probably had enough testimony
not in any
make a
sues are, and what I was looking for is a motion
la irection, but just to see if we were ready to
this.
~IONER McDANIEL: Well --and that's
_.., __ ......__,un-s --I mean, I would like to --I would like to give
ion to a continuance minimumly for two weeks --
R. YOVANOVICH: Perfect.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: --for me to have an
opportunity to speak to Valerie, the president of the homeowners'
association, maybe in --and I'm not looking to delay it forever. I
mean, I'm inclined to support the project. I just want information
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given to the people.
MR. YOVANOVICH: And Mr. McDaniel --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I feel like --
MR. YOVANOVICH: --we're perfectly fine with a
continuance to address comments. I'm happy to speak to her m
or Bob can speak to her through you or with you. So, if you ,l\nli"llil:.I
two-week continuance on --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Let's see if there's a 'if"o d.
Commissioner Solis --~~
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second. '~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: --your lig s --~-All right. We have a motion and a secon t continue this to
our next meeting. (', _
Commissioner Solis. JO
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: stion was, Commissioner
McDaniel, what were the new issu s at were raised? I just want to
be clear on what that is.
COMMISSIONER .... "'IIIL.-......, Well, Valerie, the president
of the homeowners' assoc ... ._.'>-'n, I think, she said she's newly elected,
sent out emails yesterd~ and responses from a large majority of her
community. T ... ___,]l...,'s no way that I could have actually heard about
those things And So, I would --that's the thought process
of --there as munication from them earlier on back in
September, just want to make sure that there's an opportunity to
addr ~lllillif"' concerns and show that --So, that we're listening.
IRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. We have a motion and
~',j,.._ ... d.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I just want to add, I'm glad that
you want to hear from the people, being that this is new information.
That's what we're all about, serving the people, so ...
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Relatively speaking new.
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Some of those concerns were expressed before. But when she said
what she said today, that she had sent out an email and got a large
portion of her community's response, I took heed to that and knew
that there was subsequently no real way that I could have heard those
concerns. They may have already been addressed and --but wit
quick neighborhood information meeting or some additional., '\ ~
information, I can --we'll pull it together, so... ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. We haveJ-~ a ion and
a second. The public hearing has been closed. ~
MR. KLATZKOW: And just for advertisin ~-"T!JIG··..,..-:Jll(;/..,., ses, 1s
this --are you continuing it to the next meetin rtain or --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Continuing. nt· the next
meeting, which is a date certain, So, therec'§i.!! not have to be any
readvertising. ~ -ro
MR. KLATZKOW: Thank • ~~,,
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: further discussion on the
e;~ motion to continue?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN SA RS: If not, I'll call for the vote. All in
favor, signify by sa in ~ye.
COMMISS ER SOLIS: Aye.
COMM O R FIALA: Aye.
CHA ~ SAUNDERS: Aye.
COM IONER TAYLOR: Aye.
~.....,,,. .......... SSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
IRMAN SAUNDERS: All opposed?
o response.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: That passes unanimously.
MR. YOVANOVICH: All righty.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: So, we will have a very
abbreviated discussion in terms of the petitioner, but we'll hear from
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Commissioner McDaniel on his research as well.
MR. YOVANOVICH: Understood.
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, court order --excuse me. Court
reporter break may be in order at this point.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Why don't we com
back, what, about 20 minutes to 11 :00? Will that be satisfac
All right. We're --we will be in recess until 20 minutes to
(A brief recess was had from 10:28 a.m. to 10:40 a
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Ladies and gentle .. ~ ... ..,.
meeting of the County Commission will please co
We're on 9B. ~~ Item #9B
ORDINANCE 2020-31: AN O r->--.T .Y"",, E AMENDING
ORDINANCE NO. 89-05, AS A ED, THE COLLIER
COUNTY GROWTH MAN ,._ ....... _,.... ENT PLAN FOR THE
UNINCORPORATED COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA,
SPECIFICALLY AMEN G THE FUTURE LAND USE
ELEMENT AND MAP;;E IES BY AMENDING THE URBAN
COMMERCIA !STRICT TO ADD THE GERMAIN
IMMOKAL O ERCIAL SUBDISTRICT TO ALLOW
DEVELO Mi...; ... --... OF UP TO 80,000 SQUARE FEET OF C-1,
COMMER PROFESSIONAL AND GENERAL OFFICE
DIS ~~ ND LUXURY AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIP USES.
T ---------JECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE
0 OKALEE ROAD, APPROXIMATELY .6 MILES WEST
OF -75, IN SECTION 30, TOWNSHIP 48 SOUTH, RANGE 26
EAST, COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA, CONSISTING OF 8.97±
ACRES -ADOPTED
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Item #9C
ORDINANCE 2020-32: AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER
2004-41, AS AMENDED, THE COLLIER COUNTY LAND
DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH ESTABLISHED THE ~
COMPREHENSIVE ZONING REGULATIONS FOR THE
UNINCORPORATED AREA OF COLLIER COUNTY, F ~~.uJA,
BY AMENDING THE APPROPRIATE ZONING AT AP OR
MAPS BY CHANGING THE ZONING CLASSIFI ~ N OF
THE HEREIN DESCRIBED REAL PROPERTY AN
AGRICULTURAL (A) ZONING DISTRICT ,~ MMERCIAL
PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT (CPUD) G DISTRICT
FOR THE PROJECT TO BE KNOWN --~~E MAIN
IMMOKALEE CPUD, TO ALLO ~ ½.ND USED
AUTOMOTIVE DEALERSHIP 0,000 SQUARE FEET ON
THE PROPERTY LOCATED O SOUTH SIDE OF
IMMOKALEE ROAD APPR ATEL Y 0.6 MILES WEST OF
INTERSTATE 75 , INS 30, TOWNSHIP 48 SOUTH,
RANGE 26 EAST, CON ING OF 8.97± ACRES; AND BY
PROVIDING AN EFF VE DATE -ADOPTED
to hear 9
r . Chairman, these are --actually, we're going
together because they're companion items.
~.,nn-....N SAUNDERS: We'll take separate motions on
OCHS: Correct. Thank you, sir. And 9C will require ex
pa isclosure and swearing in of participants. So, let me just read
these quickly So, the public knows what we're hearing.
Item 9B is a recommendation to approve an ordinance amending
the Collier County Growth Management Plan, specifically the Future
Land Use Element and Map Series, by amending the urban
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commercial district to add the Germain Immokalee commercial
subdistrict to allow development of up to 80,000 square feet of C-1,
commercial professional and general office district and luxury
automobile dealership uses. This property is located on the south
side oflmmokalee Road approximately .6 miles west ofl-75 . ~
And the companion item is a recommendation to approv
amendment to the Land Development Code by changing th
classification of the property from agricultural zoning d ·
Commercial Planned Unit Development zoning distr·
So, it would be appropriate, Mr. Chairman, t ~ .... -ex parte
disclosure at this point. ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Right. Let t e ex parte and
swearing in the witnesses because there'll te timony on both items
at the same time. • ""
So, Commissioner McDanie l. ~~,..
COMMISSIONER McDANI Yes. Good morning. I
have had meetings, emails, an on this item, 9C. That's the
only one we have ex pa
CHAIRMAN SA Yes, Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONE TAYLOR: Yes, a meeting with
Mr. Y ovanovic · scussions with staff.
CHAI N UNDERS: All right. Commissioner Solis?
CO NER SOLIS: I've had a meeting with
AN SAUNDERS: All right. Commissioner Fiala?
MISSIONER FIALA: Yes. No disclosures.
AIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. I have had some
mee ings and discussions as well on this item.
If you'll swear in the witnesses.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Mr. Yovanovich.
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MR. YOVANOVICH: Good morning. For the record, Rich
Yovanovich on behalf of the petitioner.
I have several people here to provide answers to any questions
you may have. Actually, Flavio is ill, So, John Garbo from the
petitioner is here. And then you have Dominic Amico is our ci
engineer; Tom Barber is our planner; Norm Trebilcock is our ~
transportation consultant; and Andy Woodruff is our envirQffl~ntal
consultant. 0
At the risk of being too brief, I'm going to do a LA!r"IIJl~_.._-
presentation. This was recommended unanimous approval by
both the Planning Commission on both items, r staff is
recommending approval.
So, I'm going to do a brief overview· ·t•s okay with the
Commission and answer any questi ~n u y have, if you have
specific questions. I didn't see a rom the public stand up.
So, I don't know if there's public c ~~~ent or not, So, --if that's okay
with--~
CHAIRMAN SA ~~◄~ .. : Sure.
MR. YOV ANOVIC · Again, briefly, we do have two
petitions. The first pet" ion is a small-scale Growth Management
Plan amendmen d the second petition is a commercial PUD.
The pro ......... ..,"T... i ocated up by I-75 on Immokalee Road. Under
th Management Plan, it would qualify as
commerc1a..,.. ..... ""'"" ... 1, and commercial infill is intended to allow for
offic er low-intensity retail and commercial uses.
my friend David Weeks was here, we had discussions
hether or not luxury automobile dealerships would qualify as
low-intensity retail, and his initial reaction was yes. But we had
further discussion and said, you know what, let's just not get to the
Board of County Commissioners without a concurrent Comp Plan
amendment. So, we submitted a small-scale Comp Plan amendment
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to allow for what we're asking for today: Keep the office and infill
that was already allowed and add simply a luxury automobile dealer
use through the Growth Management Plan on the property.
Again, we had a recommendation of approval from your staff on
the Comp Plan amendment as well as on the PUD. I'm going to ip
ahead quickly to the actual PUD uses, because at the Plannin ""'
Commission a question came up, did we include the definif ~o'f'
luxury automobile dealerships specifically in the PUD. 1 is the
PUD language that's in front of you in the ordinance.~~ as you
can see, we did have a definition of luxury autom ealership,
which includes Lamborghini, Ferraris, Maser · , BMW s,
Lexus, and Jaguars and other similarly situate i es. You
already have a process in your road impa ee ordinance that allows
for a reduced impact fee for luxury i ut o dealerships because
less people come to these luxury 1le dealerships. So, we've
simply carried that definition forw ·n the PUD.
There were some comme concerns about views and how
we might be impacting v·.....,,~:.I'JJ m people to the south. We have
our --we have our prese t our south. We have surface-level
parking, and then we h ¥e our parking structure and repair facility.
And just quickl show you the view corridors of what they'll
actually see i ett uch they won't see anything because of the
preserve t at's ween us and the building.
And t s you can see from the orientation of those units,
~...,.., ... ly looking, I guess that would be northeast --in the
direction, not actually looking directly into the project. So,
~~ .. -~ly we addressed the concerns of the residents to the south
about their view corridor with our presentation. We showed all of
these slides to your Planning Commission.
And with that, we're requesting that you follow your Planning
Commission's recommendation of approval on both petitions as well
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as your staffs recommendation of approval. And we can answer any
specific questions. We have the typical trip cap in our PUD to
address maximum transportation impacts.
And with that, I hope I didn't go too quick. Hopefully we can
keep you guys on schedule for your time-certain. ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Solis. ~
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Just a quick question. .--.-o&.11>wide
is the preserve area? ,t 0
MR. YOVANOVICH: It's 170 feet deep or wi ~~
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay. From t 1 ~~~ --from the
back property line? ~
MR.YOVANOVICH: Property line to t o here you see on
this visualizer where our surface-level pa ould be.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: J\n 11 e a concrete wall but
no berm or anything like that, rig wouldn't need one. It's --
MR. YOVANOVICH: I'm s r e have a berm, a little berm
to keep water management ar ~ ..... ~~ he project, but there's
not --you're not going to t wall anyway.
COMMISSIONER IS: Okay. I would make a motion for
approval. ✓
CHAIRM SAUNDERS: Let's hold off on the motion just
for a moment st re a staff presentation? And then we'll see if
there's an~ u6 · comment and then entertain the motion real
quickly.
~~ .......... SSIONER SOLIS: Okay.
JENKINS: Good morning, Commissioners. Anita
~~-...-::Y , your Interim Zoning Director.
Staff is making a recommendation of approval and concurs with
the Planning Commission's unanimous approval of this project.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. If there are no
questions, let's go to public comment.
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MR. MILLER: We have no registered speakers for this item,
Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Close the public hearing. We
have a motion to approve.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Is that both items?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yes.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. We have a ion and
a second to approve Items 9B and 9C. You've got t ............... _.__tion maker
and the second?
THE COURT REPORTER:
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS:
motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS:
COMMISSIONER SOLIS:
COMMISSIONER FIA
CHAIRMAN SA
(Nods hea
All right.
avor, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER LOR: Aye.
COMMISSIONE McDANIEL: Aye.
CHAIRM SAUNDERS: All opposed?
AUNDERS: That passes unanimously.
e about 12 minutes before our time-certain, So, let's
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 89-05, AS
AMENDED, THE COLLIER COUNTY GROWTH
MANAGEMENT PLAN, SPECIFICALLY AMENDING THE
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FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT TO AMEND THE URBAN
MIXED USE ACTIVITY CENTER #7 TO ALLOW UP TO 265
MUL TI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RENT AL DWELLING UNITS
IN THE HAMMOCK PARK MIXED-USE PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT IN ADDITION TO COMMERCIAL ~
DEVELOPMENT, AND FURTHERMORE DIRECTING ""
TRANSMITTAL OF THE ADOPTION AMENDMENT T ~H'E,
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORT. .
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT TH EAST
CORNER OF RATTLESNAKE HAMMOCK RO
COLLIER BOULEY ARD, IN SECTION 14,~,T,.J,'RII"' 50
SOUTH, RANGE 26 EAST, COLLIER CO , RIDA,
CONSISTING OF 19.13± ACRES -MO N O DENY
PETITION -MOTION WITHDRA. ION TO CONTINUE
TO THE NEXT MEETING -AP~
Item #9E e,;~
AN ORDINANCE AME NG ORDINANCE NUMBER 07-30,
THE HAMMOCK PA~ OMMERCE CENTRE COMMERCIAL
PLANNED UN..,, .... __,EVELOPMENT (CPUD), TO ALLOW UP TO
265 MULTI-I RENTAL DWELLING UNITS PLUS 80,000
SQUARE E F COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AS AN
ALTERN TO 160,000 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL AND
OFF.c~~ NTL Y ALLOWED; BY CHANGING THE NAME
0 PUD FROM HAMMOCK PARK COMMERCE
C E TO THE HAMMOCK PARK MIXED-USE PLANNED
UNI DEVELOPMENT (MPUD); BY REVISING THE
DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS; BY AMENDING THE MASTER
PLAN AND REVISING DEVELOPER COMMITMENTS. THE
SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST
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CORNER OF RATTLESNAKE HAMMOCK ROAD AND
COLLIER BOULEY ARD IN SECTION 14, TOWNSHIP 50
SOUTH, RANGE 26 EAST, COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA,
CONSISTING OF 19.13± ACRES; AND BY PROVIDING AN
EFFECTIVE DATE -MOTION TO DENY PETITION -MO
WITHDRAWN; MOTION TO CONTINUE TO THE NEX~:\ ~
MEETING -APPROVED ~
0
MR. OCHS: The next two items, 9D and 9E, a~t-.v
companion items, Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right.
MR. OCHS: They will require ex parte o ure and
swearing in of the participants.
Item 9D is a recommendation t_p "'ld--.... ;u"..,,· ... ~ e Collier County
Growth Management Plan specifi ,.,...,.,~, ....... ending the Future Land
Use Element to amend the urban -use Activity Center 7 to
allow up to 265 multi-family ..-.~ .. , ........ tial dwelling units in the
Hammock Park Mixed U · lanned Unit Development in
addition to commercial de opment, and to transmit for adoption of
the amendment to the F ri a Department of Economic Opportunity.
The subject pro is located at the northeast comer of Rattlesnake
Hammock R an ollier Boulevard.
And em , the companion item, is a recommendation to
appr 'rv'll"lll'h ance amending the Hammock Park Commercial
Ce ~~,.. ... ed Unit Development to allow up to 265 multifamily
Hing units, plus 80,000 square feet of commercial
ment as an alternative to the 160,000 square feet of retail and
office currently allowed by changing the name of the CPUD from
Hammock Park Commercial Center to Hammock Park Mixed-Use
Planned Unit Development.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Let's go ahead and do
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the ex parte communication, and then we'll swear in the witnesses.
Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. On 9E, I do have ex
parte: Meetings, emails, and phone calls.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: And, Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And I have the same, m
with the developer's representative as well as with staff on t ·
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Commiss · e Solis.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Meetings with Mr.
and staff.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissi
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'm surprise , a n't have
anything on my schedule. I don't have a eetings or anything.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: 1}11 .
COMMISSIONER FIALA: a have spoken to
somebody.
MR. YOVANOVICH: IPW-"f--"M to follow up on how that
happened any of these, t est with you.
COMMISSIONER A: That's all right, because I have
some concerns. So, w~ll get them answered today, I guess.
disclosures·
We'
SAUNDERS: All right. I have the same
e ings and some correspondence.
·n the witnesses.
'"'"'--=-ers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
AN SAUNDERS: All right.
YOVANOVICH: Good morning. For the record, Rich
ovich.
Again, I have a group of people here to address any questions
regarding this matter. I have David Torres. He's in the back. He
and George Bauer, as you know, have been developing in this area
under multiple different projects, and he's moving forward with this
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project. Alexis Crespo with Waldrop Engineering is our planner;
Mica Jackson with Waldrop Engineering is our civil engineer; Norm
Trebilcock is our transportation consultant; Bethany Brosious with
Passarella & Associates is our environmental consultant; and Russ
Weyer is our economist who's done the analysis for the project.
You've heard this petition before during the transmittal n
of the Growth Management Plan amendment. The propert ·
approximately 19 acres on the east side of Collier Boule on the
north side of Rattlesnake Hammock. It's actually ad· t to the
Hacienda Lakes project; is not part of the Haciend--J.__,,. It
will not be impacting the Hacienda Lakes pro· t.
This is another commercial parcel that Da 1 a d George
acquired. It's already zoned for commer · , a d we're in to make
some modifications to that PUD ancl a ~ .... "'~ rowth Management
Plan to allow for the development ments. And Mr. Ochs has
taken you through both of those ns.
If you will recall , when e through with the Growth
Management Plan amen .....,.,~.._... ... e first time , there was concern by
residents in the area, wha 'f we're giving up this commercial, are
there still going to be opportunities for commercial in the area. And
I will show --I show you a slide on how the property on the
south side of a tle ake Hammock within Hacienda Lakes is
intended t be eloped in conjunction with this now that David and
control that whole --that whole corridor and area.
~lll'rWil"""n we went through this the first time, we agreed to a
different commitments. One was we would reduce the
coii-.i,,,,-rcial to 80,000 square feet. And I have a slide later that says
we guarantee 20,000 square feet of commercial and we guarantee
5,000 square feet for sit-down restaurant use, and that's what we
discussed at the transmittal hearing, and we moved forward with that
at the Planning Commission adoption hearing for the Comp Plan
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amendment as well as the PUD.
We also agreed that we would, in fact, not only reserve but set
aside 48 of the apartment units for essential service personnel. This
isn't like some of the other projects where we make a good-faith
effort to lease to that type of individual and if we can't we can le it
to anybody else. This is an actual set-aside for essential serv·~
personnel. And if we --that unit stays vacant until we get eone
who qualifies as essential service personnel and that use Q
I just wanted to address, again, the amount of co;;~~·rcial square
feet that is in this area already, and as we presente t time,
there's an overabundance of retail and office i at, frankly,
can never be totally absorbed under today's cir stances or even in
the future. C, _
Services will still stay. I'm su,e ~ill still go out to
dinner, people will still get their h · But as far as your typical
department store or those types of s , I think those footprints are
going to shrink tremendously ~-""I~ e demand for those isn't going to
be there like it has been ·
As I mentioned, on t outh side in the Hacienda Lakes project,
which is outlined on th' ex ibit, there is still 327,500 square feet of
retail to be deve ed on that site as well as 70,000 square feet of
office to bed op on that site. And then, more internal to
that
Wl
r those of you who were on the Board at the time
ed, there's a business park as well and hotel use
~~L....,cienda Lakes DRI.
, etween what's already across the street and what's proposed
the south side of Rattlesnake Hammock, there will be plenty
of opportunities to provide retail and office use at that intersection to
serve all of the residents in that general vicinity, not only Hacienda
Lakes but also across the street, and that was a concern that was
raised in the past that we addressed at the adoption hearing.
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This is the master plan. The front portion of the property is
where the commercial will be, the 20,000 square feet of commercial,
and the back portion where the No. 1 in parentheses is is where the
apartments will be, assuming the apartments are developed.
We are more than trip neutral, if you will. When we came
amend the PUD, we already had a trip cap associated with all
commercial and retail that was going to go on Collier Bouli-,IJIIII-
With going to the 265 apartment units, we are actually r c · ng
traffic from what was originally approved for that pr
Again, we committed to the 48 units of the es -11
[&.1 1 service
personnel, the 20,000 square feet of commerc · 1ng the 5,000
square feet of restaurants, and then the typical o Bi 10n that you'll
have one entity managing the property. w made those changes
as part of this process.
As you know, there's surrou ---.--,--ployers in the area. We
have Physicians Regional. You h v lorida South Western College.
You have --or Florida South t State College. You have
assisted living facilities '-M< ... ~._._ e development within Hacienda
Lakes. So, there's plenty demand for these apartment complexes.
And, as you know avid and George have developed the
Milano apartme omplex in the area that has been very well
received and j{'ihi -quality project, and that's what this will be as
well. ......_~
I men · fl we had our neighborhood information meetings and
addr ~~ of their concerns regarding keeping commercial as part
._...,,'P'--'dect and specifically committing to a restaurant being a
d development of this project.
I want to skip the slide --I don't know how to do it fast, So, I'm
going to go to Slide 22. This is --this is the --this is the portion of
Hacienda Lakes on the south side of Rattlesnake Hammock. This is
where David and George have committed to the commercial and
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retail use to serve that area. That's where all of the square footage I
mentioned for retail and office would be; almost 300,000 square feet
on that --in that quadrant in addition to the 20,000 square feet that
we're keeping.
With that, that's a general overview. Alexis Crespo and of
on our team can answer any specific questions you have. Bu ,
we did get a recommendation of approval from your staff o
amendment as well as from the Planning Commission, ~~
recommendation to transmit from the Board of Coun~
Commissioners several months ago now.
And we hope that will look favorably up t r dect. And
I'm happy to answer any --hopefully I answer o r questions,
Commissioner Fiala, and I apologize that ~ j icln't meet ahead of
time, but hopefully --• JO
COMMISSIONER FIALA: ' ight.
MR. YOVANOVICH: Ho y I answered those, and if not,
we're available to answer any · ons you may have.
CHAIRMAN SA 'ullli..,, ............. 11R... Commissioner Fiala.
COMMISSIONER Yes. Thank you.
Yes, my biggest c~cem --and I've spoken to David about this.
This is not some · g that I haven't talked to him before about these
things.
I real· e t they'd like to do is convert a lot of this
r to residential. We've got a lot of residential in that
~~ parking --apartments, a lot of condos, not many
ily homes, but a lot of, you know, multifamily homes, and
th ' reat except they have no place to go to shop. They can't even
run around --you've got one --that little Publix shopping center has a
Publix, and it's got a pizza shop, and it's got a fitness center, and
that's about it. That's fine. That's a good entry to the area, but that's
not going to satisfy all of the people that --and you've got a lot of
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multi --multiple-family units in that area.
And I said to Dave --David, when we talked about it before, I
said, we need commercial So, desperately, and the big study even has
come out from our folks as well as they've hired people in to find that
that's one area that is truly lacking in any commercial. '-.
So, I said to David Torres, I said, you know, we really n ~1s .
He said, well, this is the only time I'm going to change it. aid,
after that, you know, we'll build our commercial. Q
Now, I can understand at the back end of somet.!--F"llll~YY ou want to
build residential and the front end, but the front e1.IJ!!IIIIW"Q~J eed to have
commercial, So, everybody --and you're not i g about the
951 corridor. Down Rattlesnake Hammock a t e ay, there's
nothing down there either. You've got t ide streets. You've got
all of the surrounding areas, the stref tS sides of the street, and
they have no place to go. ~
And I'm just saying that I per ~lly feel that it would be a
detriment to this area not tog· t m shopping. So, anyway, that's
my point, and I would --
MR. YOV ANOVIC · Thank you.
COMMISSIONE FI LA: --have a problem with this, voting
for it.
MR. YO ICH: If I can, and then perhaps we can do
t petition, we can continue and meet.
e did --what we did in this particular one when we
...,-~~~ ....... the last time --because you're right, you mentioned
o ems to us at the transmittal hearing for the Growth
........ ,.~.>,ement Plan.
As you know --and I trust your marketing
experience --unfortunately, we have restaurants that count rooftops,
and they don't necessarily agree that there's enough rooftops there.
So, what we committed to in this project was we will provide the
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restaurant. And you have the people who can back up that
commitment in Mr. Bauer and David Torres, and that's why we had
the obligation as part of this overall project to build the restaurant as
part of the project.
I think you're right, by the time Hacienda Lakes develops w
all of its residential units and the other projects that are near b
Marino and others that are coming, I think you're right that -.L.lt.Yltually
the project that's on the visualizer --I'm sorry --yeah, I s that's
the visualizer --on the computer will ultimately get b
But, again, it's always --it's always after we ,.....,... .. ~ ugh rooftops
that you can entice --or when the commercial · me. But in this
particular case, Mr. Bauer had said, I will buil li t estaurant as part
of this proposed Hacienda Lakes project. (', _
COMMISSIONER FIALA: X o ~I know you always
speak of rooftops. Somehow I d 't...,.YI~-how you equate rooftops
when you've got all of that apartm~"'""''"'uilding there, you've got a lot
of rental units there, you've go o itals that are filled with people.
I don't know how you e tops. You're going to have all
kinds of people wanting t t there, if they could --even the
communities, you kno~ lik:e Naples Lakes Country Club. You've
got places all ov
MR. TO . This is David Torres here.
we -what I want to say is we share the vision. I think
\~_jl"ll!llllft,ore commercial on the Collier Boulevard corridor.
, I can tell you, I know there's units there. I've been in
or since I started my career. Right out of college, Toll
V'IMl-"'".lf<'"'"s sent me there. I worked at Naples Lakes Country Club.
But we always dealt with the corridor was full of seasonal residents.
It's not true anymore. I know it's not true anymore, but that was
always an issue for many years. It remains for some of those
communities. They're not developed at the same density that we
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might see in other parts of the county.
The Urban Residential Fringe, by nature, has lower densities.
This activity center --and that's something that you didn't touch on.
It's the only activity center that doesn't allow up to 16 units per acre.
So, I think we've come a long way. I really do believe that we e
a l?t more annual residents in the area, and I think the comm~· '
going to come.
You know, I can tell you I get calls about these Ha · a lands
that front 951, multiple calls a week. And I tum eve-.,"""'-"-y down
because I have the same vision you do, which is w __,,, .... ....., ld have a
nice mixed use with restaurants and commerc · a to me that's the
spot. It's the spot because it's right next to the o pital.
So , --but I --you know, I'm a believ tha for it to work, we
need to have, you know, a certain d ~n · a nd it. And it's the
reason why we planned, you kno ade at Hacienda Lakes,
Azure, which are lower-density r · e s, further east, and we left this
kind of core of land at the inte c · n. So, I mean, it's --you know,
I know it's not there , but · ant to say I share the vision. I want
it to, you know, come tha y, but it's --you know, projects have to
be financeable, and I th' kit's going to come.
COMMISS ER FIALA: But, you know, if you take away
e street, you know, the easy-access places , and
build resi ere instead, you're not going to have any places to
build your df1111f,,,ercial. They're not going to go down the street in
orde ~..,._.-~~ere. So, that's another point. You know, if you expect
d · ffic or So, forth, you're going to build residential on that,
're going to lose all of that.
MR. TORRES: I hear you, but I think what we're saying is
we're leaving --there's 34 acres of activity center land zoned
commercial under the Hacienda Lakes PUD directly across the street
that would serve that purpose. And I don't know how to point on
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this.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, that's until people start
changing them. Every time you come in for --you know, and I'm
leaving office. New people don't even know what's going on
possibly. And So, then it's easy to just convert everything to ~
residential. Of course, there's more money to residential, an ~ J
understand that, too. But the thing is, residential needs ~
accommodations for commercial. 0
MR. YOVANOVICH: And maybe I wasn't cle--.... ,__ the master
plan. We are keeping commercial as part of the today, and
it's going to be right up here on the frontage o e d. So,
that --there is commercial associated with the a mock Park project
in front of you. It is on the front of the r ~ ~ th easy access from
Collier Boulevard in either directio11. ~
COMMISSIONER FIALA: uch commercial there?
MR. YOVANOVICH: Twe t ousand square feet.
wenty thousand? COMMISSIONER FIA
MR. YOV ANOVI enty thousand square feet.
Together with --
COMMISSIONE FI LA: That's a smattering, right?
MR. YOV OVICH: There's no question it's not going to
serve thee om unity.
C ,\r~~
1
NER FIALA: Right.
NOVICH: But what you have on the 34 acres
~...,-south in that same intersection and that same quadrant is
,000 square feet of already-approved commercial.
MMISSIONER FIALA: But why can't you do --why can't
you ao commercial along a street and behind it do residential?
MR. YOVANOVICH: That's what we're talking about doing.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No. I'm sorry. I didn't hear that,
then.
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MR. YOVANOVICH: Yeah, we are. Yeah, this is --this is
the entire project right here. This is --this line right here --I don't
know how to do the colors. But everything this direction towards
Collier Boulevard is actually commercial. So, there is commercial
fronting Collier Boulevard and off of Rattlesnake Hammock as
of this project. The residential is that back portion of this pr"vL::>~"ll ,'
It's not fronting --it is not fronting Collier Boulevard. So
be easy access and visibility for the commercial that's p o this
project.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: How many --a say 20,000.
That's not very much.
MR. YOVANOVICH: Right. But, aga , e hardest thing is
David's actually competing with himself. y wning the north side
of Rattlesnake Hammock and the so.ut Rattlesnake
Hammock, he's never going to be
for 160,000 or 156,000 square fee
300,000 square feet to the sou
just between those two.
t --that's already approved
o etail and office and another
hat's almost 500,000 square feet
COMMISSIONER But that's the stuff you haven't
converted yet. That's ~at I'm worried about.
MR. YOV OVICH: I know you are, but if you
remember --em r how long it took for Lely Resort to finally
build out? Arr know they didn't get the restaurants you really
want ok a while, and you were absolutely right, Carrabba's
an ~~ Steakhouse is gangbusters. Gangbusters.
MISSIONER FIALA: Right.
R. YOVANOVICH: We anticipate, similarly, that's what's
going to happen on the south side of this --of this project, and it's
going to --it's going to take off, and when it does, it's going to be
crazy busy.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. Commissioner Taylor.
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I share your concerns --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Good.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: --Commissioner Fiala. We
have a plan of the county, which created activity centers for the
reason to minimize transportation needs on the roads, to minimiz
that. When we start --and I understand. Let me just say th
gets continued, I would support it. At this point I am goin
support this, but I voted against this at the first --at the ji~ t o-round.
I did, for this reason. ~
MR. YOVANOVICH: I know you did.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Becaus 't eep eating
away the commercial. It's not only restaurant t' alternatives, not
only --C,_
COMMISSIONER FIALA: ~ig . JO
COMMISSIONER TA YLO cleaners. It's --it's
economic development. If we ev ean ourselves off of a
dependence, this huge depend n tourism, we have to be inviting
for business, and busines · · ing if there's land. And if we keep
eating it up with residenti hen it doesn't work. And there's a plan.
But my suggestion mi g)t be is that we ask staff to review again the
philosophy behi what we're doing in an economic sense in terms of
land use. A th1 if I have agreement up here with my
colleagues --i ainly isn't going to be at this time --but I think it
would be V ""' ..... ..,._. ery helpful and our decision-making going
~~.,,,.._ ... d fair to the development community because, frankly,
ing to move the way the market moves you, and right now
~ ...... ,...,rket is saying residential.
MR. YOVANOVICH: And if I may.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes.
MR.YOVANOVICH: Hacienda Lakes is the project
basically --it's a DRI. It's probably the last DRI that was approved
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in Collier County. And in that DRI --and it was --and that was
approved and developed before David and George acquired this
property on the quadrant.
The vision they had was this mixed-use retail development
which is consistent with the Growth Management Plan which ~
mixed --these activity centers are supposed to be mixed use. ~
They're supposed to be a combination of residential and colfftl~rcial.
That's what the Comp Plan says. 0
Hacienda Lakes also has a business park for eco ·
development. So, the vision was there for Hacie
Hacienda Lakes to satisfy not only the surrou n i borhoods,
retail and office, but also provide for an econo 1 d velopment
aspect. And Commissioner Fiala, you , as very involved in
the master planning of Hacienda Laf e ..,, .•. i .. C¼',:!,.._e sure that we were
bringing something to East N aple ._."'"..,_ ould look to the future, and
that's what Hacienda Lakes was, i · nded to be, and that's the
vision that David and George
And David did poi ere's only two activity centers that
I'm aware of in Collier Co y that don't have 16 units per acre
associated with them. his one and then Courthouse Shadows.
And we had the e issue with Courthouse Shadows. Those were
a ca ed the density at --we're allowed
one-and-a-al its per acre, maximum of two-and-a-half units per
acre in this · ity center. If we were under the normal goal and
obje Y activity centers, we wouldn't even have a Growth
~a..r e ent Plan here. We would be --we would --amendment
e would be clearly within the 16 units per acre. So, this is
the type of development that the activity centers were, in fact,
intended to develop.
And we wanted to be specific to address the needs of the
community, and you --you know, we've been working together for a
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long time. You were pretty clear to me. Rich, if you don't bring me
a restaurant on this site, because the residents need it, I'm not even
going to vote to transmit, and that was not only your direction,
because I'm sure you heard it from your constituents. And that's
what we did. We committed to it out of cycle, you know, out o
normal underwriting that restaurants will do. We've commit
putting that restaurant in there ourselves because we know
it's going to catch up on the other quadrant. 0
COMMISSIONER FIALA: That's just one resT -.r ...... t. That's
not all the commercial.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: We've got
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay. Yea
another question , but I'll just --
ople here.
anted to ask
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Qk ~ ou've got another
question, go ahead. ~~,..
COMMISSIONER FIALA: t ight on this.
Tell me how you count ---.r..-.·-you count rooftops. Is an
apartment building oner ,_.,.._,__..or is it 230 rooftops?
MR. YOV ANOVIC · Each unit --So, all 265, these were 265
rooftops that a restaura~ur would take into consideration as to
available custo ........ --... So, it's not one; it's 265.
COMM O R FIALA: I'm going to ask our staff to come
up and t many rooftops are in that area then, because they
must -n,r-n that figure by now. And I want to be able to
~~--· Is this --is there really enough --I'm not talking one
..,_JL ,.,. I'm talking a lot of the places , you know.
AIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. While staffs figuring
that out, let's move to Andy Solis, then we'll come back to that.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Oh, I don't need anything now.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Solis.
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COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I was going to ask if you could go
back to that slide that shows the different commercial areas around
the intersection and the square footages of commercial, because I do
understand Commissioner Fiala's concerns and Commissioner
Taylor's that we keep --ifwe keep pecking away at the
commercial --even though that's the market now, you know,
tasked with having a longer view than today.
So, the north --on the south side, the Hacienda La
is something that, obviously, Mr. Torres controls. -" ~
MR. YOVANOVICH: Absolutely. ~,
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Right. An a as 327 square
feet of retail --
MR.YOVANOVICH: 327,000.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: --.t
140,000 square feet of --So, that t ~...,-~-
MR. YOVANOVICH: Corr c
a of retail, 70,000 office,
to what, over 500,000?
COMMISSIONER SOL ight. Okay.
COMMISSIONER .... .,.... .. llll!Jlill:d'". These are proposed?
MR. YOV ANOVIC · This is already approved. This is
already approved and o the books ready to be developed.
(Simultane crosstalk.)
COMM O R FIALA: Is that what we're changing now?
MR. 0 OVICH: No. We're not changing any of this.
-this all stays assuming you convert --
~.....,,,. ........ S SI ONER SOLIS: Right.
YOVANOVICH: --our project.
MMISSIONER SOLIS: So, give them an idea, 600-plus
thousand square feet of retail --compare that to something else in the
county just So, that we have an idea --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Coastland Mall, for example.
MR. YOVANOVICH: I was just going to say, I think it's the
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mall, it's probably a couple of Mercatos. It's a lot of --
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay.
MR. YOVANOVICH: It's a lot of --it's a lot.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: That's a lot; 600 --
MR. YOVANOVICH: It's huge. And that's why it was
to accommodate all of that future retail and office. ,, '\ ~
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: And I agree that we ~
shouldn't --since we have to have a long view of things
view of things, you know, that really does need to st......,._~_._
And So, I'll just go out there and say, you know, t~~·~U,'!..,
especially what's on the south side, to be dev e a way, and I
think --it's my opinion, if it's the size of a cou e f --the Coastland
Mall or a couple ofMercatos and Waters· Shops, you know, that
would be really good for that area. .s ' e to see that happen.
MR. YOVANOVICH: And ' -and that's not going away.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: 1 t.
MR. YOVANOVICH: e in no way impacting that. It's
like 400 --it's like 530,0 e feet just on the south side of
Rattlesnake Hammock an'-'-._., ...... other 100,000 square feet where it says
Good Tum, immediate!, a jacent to what we're converting. So,
you're well over 0,000 square feet in this same area even with our
converting a ion f this project to residential.
CHA -.~ SAUNDERS: Commissioner McDaniel.
COM ""'" I ONER McDANIEL: Yes. I'd like to ask --are we
~W"1-presentations or still questions on the presenters?
IRMAN SAUNDERS: We're still on the questions. I'm
e if staff is going to have any presentation. But we're still in
etitioner's --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I have a question for Anita, if
I may. We have --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Let me ask, is there going to be a
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staff presentation, or should we go straight into questions?
MS. JENKINS: There's not a presentation. We would
recommend approval.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. Our Collier Intera ·ve
Growth Model has a parameter on a necessity of infrastructur ,~
square footage of commercial for a certain amount of popul · n.
Has any of that analysis been done here for this particul rsion
with the --with the rooftops count that Commissione~·-and
Fiala have asked about?
MS. JENKINS: No. The CIGM was n
to evaluate that.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: 0 y. Because, again, my
concern --and you folks may or mar , ...... ,,.,___, mber. I used to do
site acquisition for Walgreens, Ee ' ,. ublix, Albertson's all up
and down the coast, and there is a mile ring, two-mile ring,
five-mile ring, a radius of roo Commissioner Fiala, that you
spoke of. And it is per udllllt~ .... ~, ...... t, not eight underneath one roof.
But there is a requisite the .
We do have a la · n ollier County called the Collier
Interactive Gro Model that talks about the requisite of
commercial in ertain ring and population. And I would
suggest th t --there is also as has been pointed out, an evolution
trans · · ks are hitting their phone, and things show up at
the· ~_.,,.__,or on a regular basis. And we've seen conversion of
e-box commercial projects in our community switch over to
re e tial because there just isn't the requisite there to support that
type of development. So, I'm inclined to continue this to have that
comparison done just --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Hang on. If we're making a
motion, let's see if there's any public comment before there's any
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motion.
Any public --we'll open up the public hearing on this.
MR. MILLER: I have no registered speakers for this item,
Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Anyone in the audience?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. Then we'll close
public hearing. And we're ready to either ask question~~
a motion. Commissioner McDaniel. ~
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'm going ~·-
Commissioner Fiala go first. This is --I wo
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I wouldjus 1Re to make a motion
that at this time I do not agree with this a c nnot vote for it.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: 1}11 e have a motion for
denial on Items 9D and 9E. Is thflllJllt:.P, ...
COMMISSIONER TAYLO · 1 second it.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDE e have a second.
MR. YOV ANOVI uld it be appropriate to request a
continuance to meet with
get that opportunit ? ✓
, Commissioner Fiala, since we didn't
COMMISS ER FIALA: You know, I would accept that as
long as we is ne before I leave.
t
MR ~ OVICH: Absolutely.
IONER FIALA: I've got two more meetings.
~_.,."-.JV ANOVICH: I will --I'm happy to continue this to
r.,r,.,.t~ from now, and I'll meet at your --
AIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. We have a motion --
MR. YOVANOVICH: --reasonable convenience.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. We have a motion and
a second. Is there a withdrawal of the motion?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, I'll withdraw.
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And I'll withdraw my second.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Does the second agree? Okay.
So, we no longer have a motion on the floor. There's a request to
continue this to the next meeting. If this is continued, we're
obviously getting --we're moving a lot of items onto the next ag a.
The public hearing has been closed, So, we'll not have a pu~~
hearing. We'll not have a staff presentation or petitioner
presentation. We'll address the issues that have been r ~ and
then we'll have a vote. ~ -
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Perfect.
this to the next meeting?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. ' ma e a motion to
continue, but we need to have some.lo v1-,~~..LI1~~_._eavy talks before then.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: t D --
COMMISSIONER TAYLO · econd.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDE -and 9E. We have a motion and
a second to continue tot W""ll'ildllll" .. _ ...... eeting. If there's no further
discussion, all in favor, si · y by saying aye.
COMMISSIONE S LIS: Aye.
COMMISS ER FIALA: Aye.
CHAI N UNDERS: Aye.
CO ,,~ NER TAYLOR: Aye.
COM IONER McDANIEL: Aye.
we'l --
AN SAUNDERS: All opposed?
esponse.)
AIRMAN SAUNDERS: That passes unanimously. So,
MR. YOVANOVICH: Thank you.
Item #1 lB
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A CONTRIBUTION AGREEMENT (AGREEMENT) WITH
ULINE CORPORATION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A
REGIONAL DISTRIBUTION FACILITY ADJACENT TO THE
COUNTY'S SPORTS AND SPECIAL EVENTS COMPLEX ~
(COMPLEX) INCLUDING ON-SITE AND OFF-SITE 4 ~
IMPROVEMENTS-APPROVED
0
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman and Commissionerl!lla,\/\; .... move to
your time-certain item this morning. It's Item 11 ,
recommendation to approve a contribution ag m
Corporation for the construction of a regional · st 1b tion facility
adjacent to the County Sports and Specia~v~nts Complex, including
on-site and off-site improvements. • ~ -ro
Mr. Casalanguida will make ~entation.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: T a you. Good morning,
Commissioners. For the rec ~~ · ck Casalanguida, your Deputy
County Manager. ~
What you have in fro f you is a developer agreement we've
worked on with Uline ~rporation. Mr. Philip Hunt, executive vice
president, is her the audience and wished to address the Board at
the end of thi .
the i
I'l
We' don this for several months. As you can see with
provided in the packet, this is a fairly large project.
rough a couple slides to explain the agreement, and
t k Mr. Hunt to address the Board with any questions or
ii-.i,-nts or take any questions from the Board.
You know about the sports project. You know the location.
You can see where the star, is the yellow star, that's the location of
the property they're acquiring. To orientate you, that's where 1-75
and 9 51 meet.
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The existing Phase 1 of the complex, the existing lake,
everything highlighted in yellow exists today. The boulevard south
has been constructed per the construction plans.
This was the project of the property that's been acquired by
Uline, and they're even looking at some additional property aero
street at Brennan Drive. It is a significant acquisition of pro
make the property work.
For the project to work, they want to relocate City
Boulevard South. To give you a feel for that relocaf -............. yellow
arrow shows you where it is, and then the other a
east/west shows you where it would be reloca t
It's not a problem for our project in terms s it change our
access to the project; does it not. The ag ment contemplates that
they'll continue to keep the access ope construction 240 feet
south of the existing road. ~~
Picture to the north shows th ~sting road. The picture to the
south --to the east they'll crea undabout in front of the entrance
to the stadium, and they' .,._ ..... the road and provide an opportunity
for us to lock the facility a roundabout in front of that entrance.
This is their site p!,n. I'll take you through the donations of
land. The circl · hlighted areas, approximately five, six acres of
new lake that oing to construct and use the fill to provide that
for the bas fil r their project.
ng to donate the red area and the neutral gray area to
th ~~ at. I'll explain what those projects will be, but they'll
d to the county.
,.,_-':.r"iid they'll work in this area that's already been constructed as
part of a reconstruction project. All of the areas prior, those lands
will be donated to the county. The lake area itself, we've talked to
the CDD. They'll accept the lake and they'll maintain it as part of
the CDD project, So, we will not, which is a good thing.
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The lake area itself will have two bump-outs, fitness areas that
we've already provided around the lake, So, when you get your next
tour, you'll see them. They're completely in right now. They're
going to add two more for consistency around the lake. Give you a
feel for what they look like. They're mini training areas as you lk
around the lake and exercise. Very popular for the folks th~
starting to come out there right now.
The area to the east of the lake, they're going to do e hat strip
to the county. That's next to our future stadium area 11 as our
field house, and they're going to construct an outd ---¥---stacle course.
Kind of a Tough Mudder kind of thing. No ot exactly what
they're going to build, but we're going to make · ot , I'll call it old
friendly and young friendly So, when yo ea off the path, you'll
have something I can do with my b ~d e you'll have something
that the young kids can do --~
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: fl wall will be a little lower,
right? ~
MR. YOV ANOVI at's right.
COMMISSIONER IS: It's like --
COMMISSIONE TAYLOR: A lot lower.
MR. CAS NGUIDA: A lot lower.
(Simult e us osstalk.)
NER SOLIS: Yeah, about this high.
IONER FIALA: Knee high.
SALANGUIDA: Those are extremely popular around
t ~~ ... ~~,~ , and it just adds another dynamic to the complex.
ey're providing a strip of land west of our existing parking to
add about approximately --little less than 250 grass spaces. With
the facility being open now, as we expected, we never have enough
parking for the big events. So, by adding this grass overflow area, as
the stadium comes online, as well to the east of that where it says
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additional parking, when they relocate the road, they're also going to
reconstruct about another 250 spaces. So, out of this agreement,
we're going to net about 500 more spaces to the complex, which is
significant.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Taylor. ~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Just please, again, go th ..... ...,.. .... __.._
where the parking --where they're adding 500 parking spac
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Sure. The two arrows t oint to
the rectangle north/south, there will be about 250 gra ces there,
just a little under that, and then additional parkin ~.,_._t where it
says the arrow comes in, to the southwest oft t e east of the
rectangle, when they straighten out the road, re ave all that and
add more parking there. So, both of thos reas next to the stadium
will receive additional and overflo'¾p s well. And that was
always one of our issues. ~
That also sets us up --we've ~:::t:~ fortunate that the engineer that
we've chosen is also the engi~--..~--City Gate, and Uline has chosen
the same engineer firm. re's a lot of synergy in asking
questions. We over-laye parking garage there; it will fit. So, in
the future if we're extre ely successful with the stadium, which we
hope to be, we'l ve room to put a parking garage there.
Give yo a ee f what the Uline conceptual landscape
renderings loo · e, I believe Ms. Uline came down with the team.
They want ,..,..,,..,._.. way above and beyond the traditional landscaping.
They~~~~ at pride in their projects around the country. She was
ed with the minimum code requirement. I've heard
nu s over a million dollars of additional landscaping around the
facility. So, she really wants to blend in and make it a campus-like
environment; really dress up the site.
It's what's existing, and that's what we're looking like in its final
condition. And you can see from that layout, well buffered from the
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street, very compatible to our project. The lake now takes on a
greater dynamic and shape. It's a little less static. More fitness
facilities, more parking, and we've set that up.
Now, all those are donations except for the grass parking and the
reconstruction of the lot. Any work that they will do to replace
work that we've done, we're not being charged for it. For the ~~.~~
parking and the reconstruction, they've agreed to do that f o
not get paid back until the project COs and the next tax
with a TIF impact agreement. But they have donate
of amenities and over $4 million in land. So, that'_....,,~
significant. We expect a TIF agreement to b ho illion.
That pretty much is the agreement that yo li v in front of you.
Mr. Hunt, if you'd like to come up and m e acldress the Board and
let them know about how you feel a~o · g to Collier County, or
I can answer any questions that y
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS:
for Mr. Casalanguida, and the
(No response.)
's see if there are any questions
1 hear from the petitioner.
CHAIRMAN SA RS: All right. No questions.
Good momi§·n an cj,\,v e come.
MR. HUN . Good morning. Phil Hunt, executive vice
president for e.
So, w. 're ited to build our ninth facility around the U.S. to
service our,.,, ... .,._ ly growing Florida customers. They're serviced out
of G ~..,,,~ow, and they don't get next-day service. So, we're
out that.
s Nick mentioned, we build Class A buildings and Class A
parks, and your entertainment and sports complex is top-notch, and
we thought that would be a perfect fit for our building and your
needs. So, we're very excited, and I seek your approval for that
today.
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And Nick mentioned the TIF. We think that in how we
budgeted this project, that the county may even actually be able to
help us with acquiring fill. And so, it's really our intent and desire
not even to use those TIF funds unless they're absolutely necessary.
And at this point we don't think we're going to need them. So, e n
better news for you with the help of the county. ,, '\ ~
But his team has been good. And I think it's a good ~ for
both of us, and we seek your approval today. ,l 0
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. ~ ~
MR. HUNT: Here to answer any questions. ~~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissi r Daniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. n ank you. We're
excited. I just had a quick question for f you could just
repeat, did I hear about a four millio.n ntribution coming
from the developer and a trade of .LI-of investment from the
community through the TIF?
MR. CASALANGUIDA· , sir. The donation of the land
will be at no TIF value t Llll'PIIIIPV' nty. In other words, he's going to
provide the property to th unty and to the CDD, and then a bulk of
the construction and --pone of the reconstruction is seeking any TIF
contributions. the road relocation is at their cost.
The onl ·ng -and fairly, you know, I said to Phil when we
this is a very generous offer. The only thing we're
paying for grass parking on the land they donate and the
... "",~illrlll·~n, or the addition of the parking, not the reconstruction
~~~a.r-1, which is more than fair.
, yes, you will receive close to $6 million in value. And if
we o --able to provide them fill, you only have to pay back nothing
or, at most, 1.4 million over a TIF of taxes they generate after they
CO.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Potentiality of a parking
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garage to come maybe at some time in the future?
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Yes, sir. We have that big square
area, gray area next to the square southwest comer of the stadium
that's on your screen will now fit a parking garage perfectly.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: What are some of your other~
locations? ~
MR. HUNT: Atlanta, Georgia; Allentown, Pennsylv · ·
California; Texas; Washington; and Wisconsin; and the e have
two in Canada, and two in Mexico.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Any other ques wr-· .......... .__
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I could un t
he was saying. I'm sorry. Thank you.
MR. HUNT: Locations. So, Atla sylvania, Illinois,
Wisconsin, Texas, California, Wash·n~:~-::: o in Canada and two in
Mexico. ~
COMMISSIONER FIALA: se are places you already --
MR. HUNT: We're alre
COMMISSIONER
CHAIRMAN SA RS: Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONE TAYLOR: Welcome.
MR. HUN . Thanks.
COMM O R TAYLOR: This is really such a --really,
xciting. And thank you very much for your due
nse of --the sense of building quality, which I think
onveyed by Deputy County Manager Casalanguida, and
look forward to you coming here. And we're not going to
easy, but we're going to make it right.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Well, we'll try to make it as easy
as we can.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Not too easy.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Do we have any
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registered --any other registered speakers?
MR. MILLER: We do not, sir.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner McDaniel, did you
have anything else? ~
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: You ready for a moti 'l
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: We're ready for a motio ,
believe. 0
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'd like to m otion for
approval. ~ ..
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Second. ._,.,~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. e ave a motion for
approval, and that's the approval of the co ib tion agreement that's
in front of us. Any discussion on t e nt itself?
(No response.) ~ ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: .\9Y questions?
(No response.) ~
CHAIRMAN SA 'ullli..,, ............. 11R ... : Seeing none, all in favor of
approval of the contributi greement, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONE S LIS: Aye.
COMMISS ER FIALA: Aye.
CHAI N UNDERS: Aye.
CO ,,~ NER TAYLOR: Aye.
COM !ONER McDANIEL: Aye.
AN SAUNDERS: All opposed?
o response.)
AIRMAN SAUNDERS: That passes unanimously.
Item #9F
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 04-41,
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AS AMENDED, THE COLLIER COUNTY LAND
DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH INCLUDES THE
COMPREHENSIVE LAND REGULATIONS FOR THE
UNINCORPORATED AREA OF COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA,
TO ALLOW ENCLOSED, INDOOR, AIR-CONDITIONED S
STORAGE AS A PERMITTED USE IN THE GENERAL J '\ ~
COMMERCIAL DISTRICT (C-4) WHEN SUCH USE IS ~
COMBINED IN THE SAME BUILDING WITH ANO_...., _ _; __
PERMITTED COMMERCIAL USE, AND TO PRO __..__,
ADDITIONAL DESIGN STANDARDS FOR SU•----• ILDINGS,
BY PROVIDING FOR: SECTION ONE, REY">.,.....,,,,:,-~ ECTION
TWO, FINDINGS OF FACT; SECTION TH , f<. OPTION OF
AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND DEV.........,._,.....,P ENT CODE, MORE
SPECIFICALLY AMENDING THf Ek/--~ ING: CHAPTER
TWO -ZONING DISTRICTS A ..__......,.......,S, INCLUDING SECTION
2.03.03 -COMMERCIAL ZON STRICTS; AND CHAPTER
FIVE -SUPPLEMENTALS ARDS FOR SPECIFIC USES,
INCLUDING SECTION . ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE
DESIGN STANDARDS; CTION FOUR, CONFLICT AND
SEVERABILITY; SE C,I N FIVE, INCLUSION IN THE
COLLIER CO Y LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE; AND
SECTION SI F CTIVE DATE -MOTION TO DENY
PETITIO -ROVED
~~HS: Mr. Chairman, that moves us back to Item 9F.
ecommendation to approve an ordinance amending the
County Land Development Code to allow enclosed indoor
air-conditioned self-storage as a permitted use in the general
commercial district C-4 when such use is combined in the same
building with another permitted commercial use.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. Thank you.
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MR. OCHS: Go ahead, Jeremy.
MR. FRANTZ: Good morning. Really brief presentation for
you on what I think is a really good-news item this morning. And
thanks to you-all for your direction on this item.
MR. OCHS: For the record. ~
MR. FRANTZ: For the record, Jeremy Frantz, Land ,, '\ ~
Development Code Manager with the Zoning Division. ~
So, we're talking today about incentivizing self-sto
buildings with commercial uses added to them. Thi ..-,.,.,.,v
topic that we've talked about with you-all for quit years now.
And going back to December of last yea e ast time that
we talked to you, and that's when you gave us e i ection to think
about incentivizing self-storage buildings ta so include other
commercial uses. The goal here w i s self-storage buildings
taking up area that could be more · rhood-serving commercial
developments.
So, the amendment that ' looking at today changes
self-storage from a cond· ·..,..i~-se to a permitted use only when it's
combined with other com cial uses on the ground floor and also
includes some architect ral standards to ensure that the primary
facade design fe es and that there's also a consistent architectural
theme betwe es tlifferent types of commercial uses.
So, w. · th t , we're asking for a recommendation of approval.
And this is first of two hearings of this item. We'll see you
7th.
IRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner McDaniel.
MMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. Do you have a copy of
LUE with all of the C-4 properties?
MR. FRANTZ: I don't have a copy of the Future Land Use
Element.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. And where I was
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heading with that was this is a fairly substantive increase in the
availability of places to build storage facilities. There's significantly
more --because currently you can only do storage on C-5 --or you
can do it on C-4 with a conditional use, but you're permitted on C-5
and/or within a PUD.
So, this is a fairly substantive increase in the area, which I ........ ___ ........
gets to where Commissioner Fiala's wanting to go in sprea · t
around and not having them --I'm not quite sure where Q
Commissioner Fiala wants to go. But I'm seeing tha~~'.~ is a benefit
of this in having more area, and the commercial in e on the first
floor at 50 percent of the square footage will
of that neighborhood commercial issue that we a e going on.
So, I was --all I was wanting to do i t get a picture of how
much is available now for storage up.it at are we going to
have when this change comes a c ?
MR. FRANTZ: Sure. Wen a you pointed out, we haven't
expanded any new uses to the ~oning district. All of the other
commercial uses that we -are incentivizing with these
self-storage buildings are ady permitted uses in C-4 and also as
you pointed out, self-st age is currently allowed within C-4. It's
just a condition e. So, we're not --we're not expanding any
actual land ar h e you could see self-storage.
CO I NER McDANIEL: No, no. Maybe I misspoke.
robably wrote it down.
hought process that I had was we were expanding the
·ght for permitted use without a conditional use request,
w ........... ~,, s typically $100,000 expense and 12 months of time to move
through that process to receive that conditional use; whereas, here
we're going to make this a permitted use.
I'm in support of what this is going on. I may have misspoke.
And I just was trying to get a concept of now the available area where
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people could come and apply and receive permission to build a
storage unit. And I understand we're going to have two looks at this,
So, I'm inclined to support this.
MR. FRANTZ: As I mentioned, this is the first of two
hearings. So, we could bring more information back to you on t
27th to show you where C-4 is currently allowed and get a ~~
picture of the impact.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That would hel 0
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: It may be importa -aybe you
could address this. I know Commissioner Solis h -............ e questions
as well. But maybe you could tell us the difft n e ween the
standard for granting a conditional use in the ij ersus it becoming
a permitted use in C-4, because I think th 's a very substantial
difference in the burden on a propetly get a conditional use.
And we're eliminating those stand~'U.•~
So, if you could kind of ex~· at difference, that might be
helpful.
MR. FRANTZ: S , you know, maybe I could bring
back more presentation o e process and the locations where we'd
see self-storage as a pe~itted use at the next meeting, if you'd like.
But, briefly, yo ow, modifying this from a conditional use to a
permitted use p ely avoids the requirement to go through the
public hea ing cess, and they would be able to just come in for a
Site Develr'-"""",_nt Plan with this amendment adopted.
AN SAUNDERS: And I think that that's the key.
issioner Solis.
MMISSIONER SOLIS: Right. And these are very good
is , ecause I think that this could be a double-edged sword,
Commissioner Fiala, because I know this was --your desire was to
create some necessity to have commercial property --or commercial
uses where all these self-storage facilities are going up.
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This is a double-edged sword, I think, because if the market ever
changes to where it makes sense for a self-storage facility to be built
over some commercial, they just come in for a site plan. I mean, So,
this is --this is actually a fundamental change that I think is not ~!~g
to reduce the proliferation of self-storage facilities. I think it's ~~
going to increase. And I know this was kind of your --your ·
and I'm just concerned that if it becomes as of right, then th c:;i.~
no --the difference is there's no public hearing. 0
MR. OCHS: Commissioners, just to add some · ical
context, staff first came to the Board after the Boa.....,... ........ ~ directed,
with a recommendation to establish a distanc __ "-1'"' i n requirement
between these self-storage facilities, I think, in a , o provide some
physical separation and not a proliferatio these in one particular
area. The Board did not approve t1lat o endation and instead
sent us back to work on this cone , there is some history to
where we are with this.
COMMISSIONER SOL o, absolutely, and I agree that this
has all been at Board dir ~~-•-:._,_ o, I appreciate that. I just --in
thinking about how this hange things, I think Commissioner
McDaniel raises a oo cwoint, that suddenly there's going to be a
whole bunch m areas where you could build these without even
coming to ic aring for a conditional use, because it's going to
be as of posed to requiring a public hearing.
- I just think that it's maybe trying to solve an issue
....,._,..,..,_.,,,..,.,te another issue that maybe is an unintended
--LL•-· ce of what we're doing, and that is --I mean, right now it's
m ___ _._,~erstanding that nobody has asked to do this. It doesn't really
make sense for a company that's in the self-storage business to build
a self-storage over some commercial property, because that's not
what they do. But should that change or should they figure out how
to do that, we're going to see a lot of these, I think.
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: And I suspect that there may be
some of those on the East Trail where there's C-4 properties where
you can't put a self-storage unit on there, where all of a sudden you're
going to be able to do that without a public hearing. So, I'm not
supportive of this at this point unless I can hear some compelli~
reason for this. And we have three more lights lit up. ,, '\ '()"
Commissioner Taylor. ~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So, what I'm unde _,_L "l'-"-ing,
Commissioner Solis, you're saying that because there.,.,.'_.._.,.,
requirement for a site plan, it's like open season.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: No, no. N eq e
conditional-use hearing.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Co ional-use hearing.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Rj g~
COMMISSIONER TAYLO i..~erefore, it's like open
season. So, what would happen i Just decided that storage --I
mean, I'm asking. I'm not --' ing because I need to be
educated. What would h .... ,.,.~...... we said no storage units period?
COMMISSIONER No storage units period in the
entire county? ✓
COMMISS ER TAYLOR: No. Specific areas maybe. It
would be ve t to highlight those areas, correct?
1
CO I NER SOLIS: I mean, I think that would require a
e Land Development Code probably and, yeah, we'd
IL)llilll~e that out. I mean, I don't know that we wouldn't run
taking issues if there's --if there's --if there are areas
•-··--i .. hat is already approved --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No, I don't suggest that.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: --say C-5 --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Oh, I see.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yeah.
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: If you have that specific zoning,
it's understood that it's approved so, therefore, if you took away --
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: If you took away, I think we'd run
into some issues. But the question is, I think in C-4 right now, in
order to permit a self-storage facility, you have to go to a ~
conditional-use hearing, which is a public hearing and a pub~'h,i
process.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Right. 0
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: And by incentivizi use of
commercial on the first floor, we're incentivizing ~ ...... ~
first floor, but we're taking away the hearing
time.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: How d' tha happen? I mean, I
think we were just trying to make s1.1re w that was not part of
my motion, not to give anybody t --.... -~ to just go ahead, you
know, by right. It was just in ord --that one piece of
commercial on the lower leve s the only thing that would be
permitted easily, but cert · the whole self-storage.
I mean, we've got So, any going in there right now. There's
five more being built ri~t now, about to be built. And what that's
done in the East les area --this is not true with all of your areas.
But our area ~ca e it's an old area, and a lot of the stuff is going
in lots tha th~~ torn the old buildings down, but it's all a narrow
corridor. , ou can only get one commercial strip in there.
· of them are taken up with self-storage, then you have
...,'U' .......... ..lj .. ...,rcial. So, this was a way to accommodate some of that
........ _ .... ,,,,...,rcial underneath this first floor of the storage. But not
'm not trying to stop any storage but not giving it a free pass to
go either. Only the commercial area.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. And, Commissioner
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Solis , you brought up a good point with regard to the unintended
consequences of going up overtop of retail that could potentially be
existent now if they figure --I think you said it, if they figure out how
to do that, they could come in with a Site Development Plan and go.
The question I had was the current C-4 commercial has siz~
shape, and color limitations with regard to height restrictions
what can --square footage, parking, and So, on and So, fort .
would be constraints on those sites from a parking requi ·
standpoint that would be taken. I mean, C-4 already ize, shape ,
and color restrictions on it currently, and we're jus · g this use in,
staying within the parameters of the C-4 allo c .
MR. FRANTZ: That's right. The archit c ra code does have
some slightly different standards for self-age , typically; allows a
little bit of relaxation for self-stora~ :6 facade design
standards. This amendment wou e that if they do include the
commercial uses and they're allo s right, that they would meet
all of the normal architectural ..,_._ ....... ~....,.rds for commercial. So, it's
slightly better, slightly e .Mill._...,,__..•""' ..... ,--over your traditional self-storage
building.
COMMISSIONE McDANIEL: So, by right on C-5 or a
PUD, those unit ould --those architectural standards are there on
those that are ea by right, and by approving this , those
architect ards are going to be brought forward for the new
C-4 i · , is passes?
NTZ: Yeah, that's right. We haven't made any
ges to your typical architectural standards.
MMISSIONER McDANIEL: I understand. Okay. And
the square footage on the first floor has to equate to 50 percent of the
aggregate first floor, or the TPC, the total project? Just the first
floor?
MR. FRANTZ: It's the first floor.
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Right.
MR. FRANTZ: Yeah. The idea was, you know, coming in
with just a small one --you know, one small commercial use in
addition to your self-storage wasn't enough. We wanted to preserve
the street frontage for a more significant amount of commercial.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: So, the commercial, then,~~
first floor is going to compose how much of the first floor? ~
MR. FRANTZ: At least 50 percent. 0
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Fifty percent, ok~... at's what I
thought you said, and I was confused. , ~
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That' h some of those
limitations would come into play. Again, one reasons I --one
of the first questions I asked was for a m s t where these things
could necessarily come and see whaJ t -ee what those potential
unintended consequences are. W 'y. limitations within the C-4
zoning; again, size, shape, and hei --.-COMMISSIONER SOL just --I'm not sure that --and I
appreciate the issue that · e about the East Trail, because it's an
issue, and I appreciate tha I'm just --I'm hesitant to support this
if --I think this is oin~o ave an impact on the entire county.
COMMI ER FIALA: Oh, I see what you mean.
COM O R SOLIS: It will --
CH ~ SAUNDERS: I agree with you.
IONER SOLIS: This will --this will open this up
... ~lt'.)lftl!~ county. So, it's a double-edged sword in that we may
ing a particular issue that is unique to the East Trail
be 11 e of the layout of those lots and the residential street behind it.
You know, I'm concerned that there's going to be a lot of
unanticipated consequences of this because it is now something that's
as of right in a zoning district that usually required some public input.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: It shouldn't --
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Fiala. Let's use
the --you know, if you've got something to say, let's push the buttons
here.
Commissioner Fiala.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah. And I didn't realize w
they were drawing this up, that's nothing that I'd ever said whS(~
wanted --when I presented this idea. It was not by right. ~
I feel that you always --things that need to be appr should
be approved; that you shouldn't take that away. I do ~.---~
it's in my district or your district or whomever.
I wanted to show you a little example.
storage unit being built right now on the East a1 . It's a pretty big
one, and it's going to be --it looks like it' in to have lots of wine.
And I thought, if they had a first-flo_p r ~-·r ~ could have a wine
store, you know, and make it wor t m if they wanted to.
But, anyway, there are thin s -.,L _..~,..., you can do. But I don't think
that anybody should have to --o ld be able to build a storage unit
by right. I just don't thi ' right. I don't care if it's East Trail
or where it is. They nee go through the process.
CHAIRMAN SA~ RS: Do we have any registered
speakers on this · ?
MR. MI R: We do not, sir.
CHA SAUNDERS: All right. Are there any other
""'...,,,..._..ff? Commissioner McDaniel.
"'~yi.i..SSIONER McDANIEL: Just one --there are
1 that are zoned by right now, C-5 and PUDs that have that
.,----.,, day.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Right.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And this is an expansion of
that. So, maybe --and this is just a thought. Maybe --we're kind of
in the habit of continuing today. I would really like to see the
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impacts of this based upon what Commissioner Solis brought up with
regard to the potential of unintended consequences and where the C-4
exists and what kind of an impact that this could potentially have.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: That's good with me, yeah. Could
you come back to us in a couple weeks but maybe visit us on our wn
in ou~ offices and talk about that as well to answer some of ~~
questions?
MR. OCHS: Yes. 0
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Comm· er Solis.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Well, I'd --rath ~L......_ ...... continue yet
another thing to our next meeting, which is g · e, you know, an
all-night affair probably, this is the first of two u lie hearings, right?
MR. FRANTZ: That's correct.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Y_o o would suggest that if
there are votes to move this f orwa is particular hearing,
knowing that we have another hea · n o ultimately decide whether
or not we're going to approve , would just like to make some
headway as to making a ·
COMMISSIONER ANIEL: All right.
COMMISSIONE S LIS: You know, at the next meeting if
staff could be pr red to show us the map, what-all is C-4, what
ean · terms of not having a conditional-use process,
and then e ca ake a decision. I mean, I'm --I'll just say that I'm
port it just because I think there's --we have a
for C-4. It's a conditional-use process. The neighbors
d say their --speak their peace. And I don't see --I think
w oing to create more issues certainly, I think, in my district,
than this is going to solve. But I'd like to see it at least move
forward somehow.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes. Just a question for
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County Attorney Klatzkow. Ifwe --ifwe change substantially, like
get rid of this one provision that --regarding the --we enforce a
hearing rather than get away with it, do we have to have another
hearing after that? Meaning, can we change this and mold this the
way we want and only have one more hearing, or do we have to
continue the whole issue and make those changes, then have
hearing after that?
MR. KLATZKOW: No. You just need one mor If
you want to make changes at the second hearing, tha . .,.,.' ,... ... 11~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. Tha -.u,_.,
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I'm not go· t
whether we decide today or whether we decid
Does this take four votes? C, _
MR. OCHS: Yes. J'Q
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: t. So, I think we can
determine whether we have four t a rove this ultimately. If we
don't, then I don't see much p · continuing it.
So, I'm going to ma t1on to deny this because --and my
rationale is simply that, a s been articulated, that we are now
creating a new use in ti., C-4 district that does not require a
conditional-use lication. And my understanding of conditional
uses is that --~to 11, I think a conditional use requires four votes;
is that corr. ct.
So w ' iminating some real checks and balances on that.
And 4.~~~.._ ...... a C-4 --and this is a question for Mr. Klatzkow.
"W_.M"P'11!1 .. u11av have a conditional-use hearing, we have a lot of flexibility.
I ' think anyone's entitled to approval of a conditional use. They
have --there are certain hurdles that they have to get over, and I think
we have a lot of flexibility in that. Is that not correct?
MR. KLATZKOW: Yes and no. A conditional use is
normally a permitted use, but you try to buffer it usually because of a
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residential component. And the typical discussion is putting in trees
or whatever towards this. Where this is going to have the real
impact is that many PUDs will refer to, like, C-4 zoning, and So, this
will expand beyond the East Trail to the entire county that way.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yeah, that's what --yeah, ok~
So, I'm not going to support this, but I'll see if there's a motio ~.•
not, I'll make a motion. ~
I'm going to make a motion, then, to not move fo ~ith this
proposal. ~ -
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I'll second.
a second.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: sti n. Does that mean,
then, that we can't go back to a dra~in and come up with a
different program So, that we can · some commercial into
these things So, that --you know e use we don't have commercial,
and we need it So, badly, and as an opportunity. Because
everybody's --I don't kn"--;:.Lllilllldllll' ey're locating storage units in
anybody else's unit [sic].
COMMISSIONE S They're everywhere.
COMMISS ER McDANIEL: They're everywhere.
COMM O R FIALA: Are they? And so, this would
give us a nity. But I don't want to harm anybody else
eithe talking just about my own district, and I certainly
~...,..,'"' make it difficult for anybody else.
FRANTZ: And if I could jump in on that point. I know
also have the East Naples Community Development Plan
coming up in your near future, and that may also be a good point to
talk about that kind of an issue specific to the East Naples
community.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah, that's true. That's good,
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yeah. Okay. But we can --we can adjust it if we find that there's,
you know, some way or another? Because I hate to just see it die.
MR. FRANTZ: Yeah. And I think, you know --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Just by different wording or
something. ~
MR. FRANTZ: The history slide is up now. I think it' ~
something we've been talking about in that community for ~--g
time. So, incorporating whatever your ultimate approa · s into the
East Naples plan is still another opportunity for you t -""~tinue to
approach it at a community level. s
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Well, than o r ose that
were supportive. Even when you voted agai ~ were really
supportive of it for the area. So, maybe n s_.ould come up with a
new plan. • ~ -ro
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: . ~Mon't think it's going to solve
the problem you're trying to solve -
COMMISSIONER FIA
CHAIRMAN SA
So, we have a motio
(No response. ✓
--and create others.
d second. Any further discussion?
CHAIRM SAUNDERS: We'll call for the vote. All in
favor of de tH , signify by saying aye.
C NER SOLIS: Aye.
~-•"'n-....N SAUNDERS: Aye.
~.....,,,. ...... SSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
IRMAN SAUNDERS: All opposed?
MMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. So, we have 3-2 to not
move forward with this. We need four votes to approve it in the first
place, So, I would assume that this issue goes away --
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MR. OCHS: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: --and perhaps you can find some
other way of dealing with that.
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, I was wondering ifwe might try to
take 11 C quickly before your lunch. ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. If you do it qui ~
because we are going to break for lunch, and then we're goi o
come back at 1 :00 sharp, no matter what time we leave ~so ...
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir.
Item#llC ~
AN AGREEMENT FOR A MARKET A _"_ ANCIAL
FEASIBILITY STUDY WITH H~ TEGIC
PARTNERS, INC., TO CONDU CT AND INDIRECT
COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS OF OPOSED DEVELOPMENT
PROJECT INVOLVING GR OLF RESORTS, INC., AT THE
CITY GATE COMME ..._AC../~·~, ADJACENT TO THE
PARADISE COAST SP S COMPLEX AND AUTHORIZE A
NECESSARY BUDG:f7 A ENDMENT -MOTION TO DO A
MARKET AND NANCIAL FEASIBILITY STUDY -
APPROVED
: Okay. 1 lC is a recommendation to approve an
-~~~r a market and financial feasibility study with Hunden
1 artners to conduct a cost-benefit analysis on a proposed
ment project involving Great Wolf Resorts, Incorporated.
And, Sean, before you get into any presentation, we'll give the
Board an opportunity to ask any questions, in the interest of time, sir.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. I know we've all
looked at this, and I think we're probably all excited about the
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potential for the Gray [sic] Wolf facility to be in Collier County.
Are there any questions? Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. I'm totally excited
about having the opportunity to work with these folks . But the way I
understand this is you're recommending that we go hire a consu t
to do a study on a piece of property that we haven't bought ~~
MR. CALLAHAN: That's correct, sir.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Wait a minute. Not a d on the
property.
MR. OCHS: No.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Study on the ~-~ n investment.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I und On a piece of
property that we don't own yet.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: On.a . t that location, whether
it be direct or indirect revenue tha 1X.~ ld get. That's what
Hunden's going to do for us, sir. .. \.:>
COMMISSIONER McD.-.--. ... -~L: Okay. Is there a contract for
purchase on that piece o ~-LJ :c~•r0 ...-y?
MR. CASALANG No, sir.
COMMISSIONE McDANIEL: Do we own that piece of
property?
MR.C
CO I
L~ GUIDA: No, sir.
NER McDANIEL: So, that's where my concern
nd I shared this with you yesterday. This isn't new
~-• ,,-I have a concern of spending money on a
-xpayer money on a study on a piece --I'm excited about
olf; don't get me wrong. But the --
MR. CASALANGUIDA: We have an agreement with the
owner, sir, to hold that property through this study period.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So, there is a contract for
purchase?
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MR. CASALANGUIDA: There is an agreement. I don't
know if it's agreement for contract, but there's a letter of intent and a
contract between the two parties for a due diligence period.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Taylor. '-.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I would support this. I' ~1{
we're studying this. And I think it's critical because we're t ·
about a significant --significant amount of money goin c to
Great Wolf. So, we've got to figure this out and fig _____ .... ut with
time and understanding. A lot of numbers are be·
I'm reading it now. And estimates and thing ~' · st see --let's
just --let's see what we're really doing here be r e make a
commitment. I think it's very wise. I u rst nd taxpayers' money.
I do. I respect that. But, boy, we o -'"'-...,~to --we need to be a
little sure on our feet here on this ...... ._.,., ... .__
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: missioner Solis.
COMMISSIONER SOL ould as well. And I think one
reason to do this is I thin .... .._JI..,~ seen a great agreement that was
negotiated by staff with I think any developer of any kind
that comes in to do so ~thing around the sports park is going to ask
us for incentive d things. So, it's --I think it would be helpful for
me to see thi ____ ...,aly · s, what's it going to mean, So, that when this
comes up e n time --and my gut feeling is that these things are
going to co~9'1"p, and we're going to have to make decisions quickly;
that ~~ e would have gone through this process already and
kind of the parameters of what kinds of things can we and
e do in terms of the return on the investment and what's the
righ thing to do. I mean, I think it will give us at least a baseline to
start with.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. And, again, I agree,
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and I just have concerns about the process.
We've learned just in the acquisition of the Golden Gate Golf
Course certain things change. And time goes on, and we go out and
spend money to do a study, to do an analysis. Unlike Uline, which is
coming; it's there. It's under contract and going forward. We'r
spending money to do a study on the potentiality of a project ~~: · g
to us and to offer us that, and that's my concern. Not the ~m of
doing a study and gathering data; it's just the process th 'v got
to --and we're spending taxpayer money to go hire a ~~.~~ltant to do
a study on a deal that's not done, and that's where
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissi id you have
anything?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL:
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I.w
comment and say that nobody nee
the sports park. That is the incen Y
get in there. That's just my c.--.-..... -~ nt.
go
oing to make a
ve an incentive to go out by
They would probably pay to
CHAIRMAN SA ~'\t-◄~ .. : Anything else from the
Commission?
(No response. ✓
CHAIRM SAUNDERS: Any other comments from staff?
MR. oc o , Slf.
CHA SAUNDERS: Then I think we're ready for a
"'~.,, ........ SSIONER TAYLOR: I make a move to approve the
dation to have a market and feasibility study with Hunden
e ic Partners.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: We have a motion and second.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Call for the question. All in
favor, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All opposed?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: That passes 4-1.
Why don't we come back --we have a 1 :00. ~---' ... come back
at 1 :05. Does that work for everybody? !;
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: 1:05.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Then '11 s art with the COVID
update. All right. We're in recess .u
(A luncheon recess was had
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS:
:05 p.m. to 1 :05 p.m.)
meeting of the County
Commission will please come c to order.
I understand we hav. ............ .,.,,real quick staff items that the
Manager would like to ta p before we get to the CO YID report.
MR. OCHS: Y es.lS ir.
CHAIRM SAUNDERS: So, let's go ahead and do those
three i terns.
MR. C
INVITATION TO BID ("ITB") NO. 20-7797, COLLIER
BE CH RENOURISHMENT 2020-2021, TO EARTH TECH
ENTERPRISES, INC., IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,094,700,
AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE ATTACHED
AGREEMENT, AND MAKE A FINDING THAT THIS ITEM
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PROMOTES TOURISM (PROJECT NO. 90068) -APPROVED
MR. OCHS: The first one of those is Item 11 E, and this is a
recommendation to enter into a contract with Earth Tech Enterprises,
Incorporated, for Collier County beach renourishment in the amo t
of $1,094,700, authorize the Chairman to sign the agreement,_ .... -.... lf+ .... _.
finding that this item promotes tourism. You-all have the
information on this beach renourishment project in your c et.
Andrew Miller is here to make a presentation or to a any
questions the Board may have.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right.
questions or comments from the Commission?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Motio
COMMISSIONER McDANIE~: ~1M>ll1
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: _.,"_ ea motion and second.
Any registered speakers?
(No response.) ~
CHAIRMAN SA 'ullli...,, ............ 11R',,. .,: Seeing none, seeing no further
comments, all in favor, si · y by saying aye.
COMMISSIONE S LIS: Aye.
COMMISS ER FIALA: Aye.
CHAI N UNDERS: Aye.
CO ,,~ NER TAYLOR: Aye.
COM IONER McDANIEL: Aye.
AN SAUNDERS: All opposed?
esponse.)
AIRMAN SAUNDERS: That passes unanimously.
MR. OCHS: Thank you, sir.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Great presentation.
MR. ANDREW MILLER: Thank you very much.
MR. OCHS: Thanks, Andy.
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Item #1 lF
AW ARD AN AGREEMENT FOR REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL
("RFP") #20-7775, "TOURISM MARKETING & PROMOTIONS,"
TO PARADISE ADVERTISING AND MARKETING, INC.
AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF OCTOBER 1, 2020, AND MA
FINDING THAT THIS ACTION PROMOTES TOURISM
APPROVED ~o
to award the annual contract for tourism mark · d promotions to
Paradise Advertising & Marketing with an ef:6 ti e aate of
October 1, 2020; make a finding that this io promotes tourism.
Mr. Wert is available to presen1 o d to questions from the
Board. ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: right. Any comments or
questions from the Commissi
IS --
COMMISSIONER .... ..,.... .. llll!Jlill:d'". Motion to approve.
COMMISSIONER Second.
CHAIRMAN SA~
MR. MILL : No, sir.
Any registered speakers?
COMM O R TAYLOR: I have a question.
CHA -.~ SAUNDERS: Commissioner Taylor.
COM ""' IONER TAYLOR: Yes. And what is --this
~~--out for a RFP, did we?
WERT: Yes. Yes, ma'am, we did.
MMISSIONER TAYLOR: And we chose them. What are
easons? I'm sorry. I didn't --
MR. WERT: That's okay. We had seven firms make a bid for
this business.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay.
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MR. WERT: And the selection committee went through all of
those bids, and they did it independently, then came together and
voted. Paradise Advertising was the number one. It got the most
number of votes of all seven, and it was a unanimous decision to
recommend. ~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And is this --what kind~
increase is this over the last three-year contract? ~ ..,
MR. WERT: Actually, it's a decrease. It is actua G
decrease. We dropped the annual amount of the ma · g and the
fee as well and hourly rates as well.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah. i ~ tin case they're
listening, when we --when we did the COVID rketing, you know,
I kind of said, let's use Paradise, and wha e clid and how they did
it, it was just remarkable. They jusl n · ... -~,~... So, I'm very happy
with them. ~
MR. WERT: Thank you. e actually have two of the
staff here from Paradise Adve~ ...... ',f-... #'r-,• So, they're --they worked
hard on that proposal. .,.,......,_, L,..wu-.1ly, really, I think, is working,
ma'am.
COMMISSIONE TAYLOR: Yeah. That's very important,
especially for o ublic to know that --you know, to have a firm of
this caliber a at ey are coming in at a lower rate than they did
the previo s tn years is huge, and thank you for doing that.
MR. ~.......,_.,,._ : Thank you.
AN SAUNDERS: All right. Then we have a motion
e nd. All in favor, signify by saying aye.
MMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: That passes unanimously.
MR. WERT: Thank you, Commissioners.
MR. OCHS: Thank you.
Item #1 lG ~ c,4.
AWARD INVITATION TO BID ("ITB") NO. 20-77 "SCWRF
(PROJECT EFFLUENT FILTER EQUIPMENT REPLACE
NUMBER 70148), TO R2T, INC., IN THE A
$2,418,227, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIR
ATTACHED AGREEMENT -AP:ROV~
TOF
TO SIGN THE
MR. OCHS: Commissioner ,.....,,.....,_. lG is a recommendation to
award a contract for the South Co ater Reclamation Facility
effluent filter equipment repla~~~i ':~ts to R2T, Inc., in the amount of
$2 ,418,227, and to autho · hairman to sign the agreement.
Mr. Chmelik is avai ......... ._~-to present or answer questions,
Commissioners. This · a responsive --lowest responsive
competitive bid among several. It's on your regular agenda
because it ex s t $1 million threshold.
CHA ..a.~ SAUNDERS: Any questions?
COM IONER FIALA: And again, motion to approve.
AN SAUNDERS: Do we have a second?
~ MISSIONER TAYLOR: I'll second.
~MMISSIONER McDANIEL: Second.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. We have a motion and
a second. Any questions or comments from the Board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Any registered speakers?
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MR. MILLER: No, sir.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I'll call for the question. All in
favor, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Aye.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Aye.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: That passe n
MR. OCHS: Thank you, Commissioner.
Outside of Item 1 0A, which is Com · sioner Taylor's item,
that's the only other item left on the .ag ond the COVID
report, if you want to take that on
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: 0 y. Let's go to the COVID
report, and then we'll go to th , that's Item l0A. I'm sorry, no.
I'm sorry, yeah, we're --' . I'm sorry.
MR. OCHS: No. .d Item l0A is the only other item still
remaining to deal with ~
CHAIRM SAUNDERS: Right.
MR. OC : -on the agenda.
CHA SAUNDERS: We have some people on the
COV · nd I think we're going to have some dialogue on the
M-~...,.. ....... ing. So, let's move to the COVID time-certain.
OCHS: Very good. Thank you, sir.
ACCEPT THE COVID-19 STATUS REPORT AND PROVIDE
FURTHER DIRECTION AS APPROPRIATE -UPDATES GIVEN
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MR. OCHS: That's Item 1 lA. It's a recommendation to accept
the COVID-19 status report and provide further direction as
appropriate.
We'll begin with your Public Health Department Director,~
Stephanie Vick. ~
MS. VICK: I guess I should have gone to the other ~ · m.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Good afternoon. ,l U
MR. OCHS: She'll be done in a second. ~ ~
MS. VICK: I don't want to rush you. ,~
Okay. For the record, Administrator St a · Vick, Florida
Department of Health, Collier County.
Thank you, Commissioners, for havi m here. And today's
meeting is very timely. As you kn ~w or DeSantis moved us
into Phase 3 of the Safe, Smart, St tep Reopening Plan on
September 25th, and we are now r.,,...,,,~~ning to see small increases in
numbers that are likely the res increased person-to-person
contact in the communit s in the restaurants, particularly in
the bars.
I want to remind e~ryone that we're still under a public health
emergency orde , d there's still an active public health advisory in
effect in whi lor a Surgeon General and Florida Department of
Health rec d wearing masks in public places where social
distancing ..... .,..,,_ possible, gatherings of more than 10 people are
disc ~,__~, and individuals 65 and older, as well as individuals with
health conditions, are encouraged to limit their activities
ople outside the home.
Okay. We're going to begin our presentation with John Drew,
Organizational Planning and Development Consultant, Florida
Department of Health, and then we'll hear from Dr. Lindner and
Dr. Quintero from NCH Healthcare System. They'll be brief, okay.
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Followed by Dr. Rebecca Bernard, also will be brief. I know there's
quite a few slides there, but she'll be through them quickly. And she
is from the Collier County Medical Society. So, --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yes, Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Just a quick question, if y ~~
don't mind. Just --the public health emergency is a federal -
federal declaration that the states then transmit through the ~l]f-"; is
that correct? It's not a Florida public --this is for my e · c tion.
That's all. ~~
MS. VICK: Both. S' ~
(Simultaneous crosstalk.)
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: We're sti u d r a --we're still
under a public health declaration that was a y declared by the
federal government; is that correct?•
MS. VICK: Correct.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: know what, I didn't --I didn't
hear.
COMMISSIONE : I wanted to know where that
declaration came from. it's --it was --it's still in effect. And
it's federal. It's a fede J71 nited States of America declaration of
public health e ency, and then it's transmitted to us as a
community t o gli estates.
CO I NER FIALA: Thank you.
COM IONER TAYLOR: Thank you.
W: Hi. For the record, I'm John Drew with the
partment of Health in Collier County. And I'm going to
ju _,.-'~sent some of the data, some of the same data that we've been
tracl<ing all along.
So, our two weeks on the emergency department visits the last
two weeks for our influenza-like illness syndrome, the trend is
slightly upward. For the COVID-like illness syndrome, the trend is
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also upward. And then, from a historical perspective, we graphed
these back from the peak of our pandemic here in Collier County,
which was around the middle of July. So, the dates at the bottom of
the graphs are the week --the day of the end of the week for the
14-day periods. ~
But as you can see, they both trend downward --pretty s
downwards trend after the peak, and then they both kind of
out. And the ILI one about mid to late September is st
upward again, which is to be expected since it's flus
to move
And
then the COVID-like illness one is also --has kin
and seems to be ticking upward just slightly o t
And then moving to --I know it says case u t ere, but this is
actually positivity rates. So, our positivi ates over the last two
weeks also trending upward, and th ~ s of historical view
from mid July, you can see the do _,...,. ... , trend, the bottom, and it's
starting to tick upward over the la c ple of weeks.
Then we took a look at t · tivity rates of certain regions
within the county. And _,_.__._ though the overall positivity rate
for the county is around cent in the last two weeks, these
individual regions have li tle bit of variability in there. I'll just give
you a second to orb that.
Next, lo 1 g the hospital capacity, again we're focusing on
the maroo -co d area at the bottom of those bars. You can see
that it's tak....,.,.IY"-p a lot of less --those are the COVID-filled beds,
COY, -1lled beds. It's taking up a lot less of the capacity of the
h "~a.a han it was a while back. But as you can see, we're still
ng around 30 people in the hospital being treated for
ID-19; 30 people every day.
And if you look at the last couple of days there, you can see it's
beginning to increase a little bit, although a couple days isn't enough
really to establish a trend.
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This is the same historical view for the hospitalizations. Again,
the peak around mid July and bottoming out right around a couple
weeks ago and now sort of --looks kind of flat. Maybe it's still
going down. Still kind of unsure what --where that's going to ~-
But based on the other data, the COVID-like illness, ED d ~,
and the positivity rates increasing, it's likely that these ,, '\ ~
hospitalizations will start to increase as well. ~
And then here we're looking at the percent change T" .... '""'..,V'\ .. the
previous two-weeks' periods on a couple of variables --,,., we're
comparing the September 13th through 26th to Se~~~-er 27th
through October 10th. And when you comp t
periods, there was a 15.3 percent increase in tH n er of new
cases, there was a 26.1 percent increase i e positivity rate, and a
38.5 percent increase in the number.of '~~• admissions.
In the past, we've been asked e Collier --how the
COVID-19 deaths compare to oth uses of death, So, we put
together this chart. This is b the 2019 leading causes of
death using our current 9 deaths. And so, as you can see,
if we were --if the numbe deaths that we have currently were put
against 2019 deaths, C ~I -19 would be the fifth leading cause of
death in Collier unty, and we're only in October.
COMM O R SOLIS: This --I'm sorry.
MR. ~~ · Yes, sir.
COM IONER SOLIS: So, just So, I'm clear. Right, this
1s --.___ mparing it to the entire year of 2019?
DREW: That's right. Yes. That's correct.
MMISSIONER SOLIS: This year to date comparing it.
Okay.
MR. DREW: Exactly, yes. This year to date compared to all
of 2019. And I'd just point out that for the state as a whole,
COVID-19 is --would now be the third leading cause of death.
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And then we were asked to do some comparisons with other
counties, So, I just want --we just wanted to point out all along that
we have been comparing this one data point with our rates, COVID
case rates per capita with the other South Florida counties, and we are
still third in that list of the rates per capita. So, Miami-Dade an
Broward and then Collier. ~
And then, additionally, we picked some counties withc__~---....... k
ordinances and without mask ordinances and compared ositivity
rates on those. We also compared some other varia well but,
pretty much, they all came out the same. So, this _,,___, at Collier
compared to Lee, Seminole, Manatee, and Po w e ee and Polk
are the two without mask mandates and the ot r ree do have mask
mandates. And as you can see, as expec , the curves are all pretty
much the same. There aren't any r ~al · ant differences between
the way that things transpired as £----~--
CO MMIS SI ONER TA YLO · ell, how do you read that?
What does that tell you? ~
MR. DREW: Wel 1 wer that in just a moment, if you
don't mind. I'll go one m e slide, and then I actually wrote down
the conclusions So thaywe could --
CO MMIS S ER TAYLOR: Okay.
MR. D I wouldn't miss anything.
So, u out just Lee and Collier So, we could look at
those , this is an example of some of the confounding
~...,,~u know, why it's difficult to draw any conclusions,
e ort Myers Beach city had a mask mandate on 7/1. Sanibel
.L ..,....'-Y city had a mask mandate on 7 /3. Lee County overall did not
have a mask mandate.
Collier County had a mask mandate 7/21. City of Naples did
not have a mask mandate. City of Marco Island did not have a mask
mandate.
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So, if you'll indulge me for a minute and a half, I've timed
myself, I'll read our conclusions. So, while doing those
comparisons, we concluded that although the graph curvatures were
similar in the comparison counties, we found that there could be a
number of influencers in each. ~
There are many peer-reviewed scientific studies showin
wearing masks reduces the spread of virus, and this is why ~, .. --,
recommends masks. 0
The fact that the cases and positivity rates in co with mask
mandates went down at the same rate as counties ·~L..1-"
mandates is not enough evidence by itself to
There are many other variables that must be co s1 e ed such as mask
mandates in the cities within the counties op e traveling between
counties; for example, people who 'fO llier County and live in
Lee County. There are differenc i c nty demographics and
differences in policies among busi e es and other employers.
Another example, major rs such as Walmart, CVS,
Walgreens, and Home D t implemented mask policies in mid
July.
Also the needs an<J,<l esires of residents, both permanent and
seasonal visitors d business owners, must be considered as should
Collier Coun vu erability as a common travel destination for
people fro th' nsely populated East Coast cities.
Finall sideration should be given to the upcoming holidays
~W""-J·, ...... ood that more people may gather in large groups.
MISSIONER FIALA: Most people what?
R. DREW: More people will be gathering in large groups
because of Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays coming up. We're
going to have people wanting to gather.
And if there are no questions, I'm going to tum it over to
Dr. Lindner and Dr. Quintero.
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right.
DR. LINDNER: Good afternoon. Thank you, Commissioners,
Chairman Saunders, Ms. Vick.
For the record, I am Dr. David Lindner, DO, MBA, CCP. I am
a pulmonary and critical care physician and academic appointme
with Mayo School of Medicine, University of Central Flori~
also the Medical Director for COVID at NCH.
It would be --the slides are for Dr. Quintero. I c ~~ go
without and keep down the time. ~
It is my contention that Collier has been parti -v-ccessful.
We have obviously dropped from the peak. rr~~ e have a
5.74 percent rate. Unfortunately, from a med1 a opinion, that is still
too high. The numbers are down. Obvi 1 , we do --it does
appear that there was a --to coincid~ n we instituted the
mask mandate, but So, did other p
It appears that, in my opinion · or education of the public did
not fully coincide with reachi ... i_._,_.__.__., 0 percent, you know, penetration
of masks; that the mask ... _.., ... u,.~....., aid appear to do that when we go
out in public, and before ould see a degree of people who were
not versus the degree ow eople who are doing So, now. I think that
both Southwest rida and even the counties that did not mask have
benefited fro
alluded to.
sk mandate here for the reasons that were just
Overa , fortunately, as you just saw presented, Collier
~-.."""ses per 100,000, in cases per million, ranks up there with
-.... ... ~ward, and Collier being, unfortunately, some of the top
er percentage-wise in the country. Unfortunately, for Collier,
we ave a very unique population. This is where the medical
interpretation, I think, of these statistics becomes important.
We have a unique population in that we have one of the older
populations. We have a very active older population, but still the
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age of Collier County is different, and we are a different county.
We also have a unique issue in that we have an at-risk group of
people from Immokalee. If you take out particularly certain ZIP
codes within Collier County, we note that that also basically, is where
a tremendous amount of our spread --and, again, that spread co
from the socioeconomic conditions and predominantly the fa
living relations as well as the worker living, basically, meth logy
of the people for their work and for what they do. Q
Currently, it appears in my medical opinion and f the
COVID medical team that right now Collier Coun afe. I mean,
I can honestly, you know, say --and I've been~ n merous calls
from our patients who are up north, and that is:~liou d I come back?
Should I come here for the season? And ht now, I can honestly
answer and have been answering to Jh 'IIU-_._ ..... .Ck-~J# t is safe for them to
come to Collier County. ~
We have reduced COVID. e re --for the most part, right
now, people are practicing sa£ ......... r•,..,.tices, and I believe that they can.
I do believe that we can p ,ftl~v · n our economic pursuits and do
things in an appropriate m er with that.
I was in agreemen~wit the Governor's opening as long as
people continue ractice safe. Those things are not in opposition
to each other. he two things are actually together, particularly if
practice
ely, my next point is that COVID is still alive and
~~_._ ... tted people yesterday, critically ill people, to the ICU
,_,u__,ally had COVID. This has not gone away; it is still
nately here.
I also listened in anguish to patients who, despite having no risk
factors, still got COVID. You know, they're in the hospital for a
month and a half. Why me? It does appear to be capricious at
times when people do not have that; that is still there. I heard anger
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towards --from one patient towards the person who he knows was
the person where he got COVID and now his life irreparably
changed. Those are all real things.
I, ultimately, would have no issue with anyone who chose not to
wear a mask if it only affected them. That would be their, hope ly,
informed choice. But, unfortunately, with COVID, that is no
case. COVID spreads in asymptomatic people. Basical ~ · s
means that we put, in Collier County, the risk of our eld ~our
seasonal residents, and other vulnerable populations .... .-....,.--. if we
don't practice good practices.
Unfortunately, and in addition to this, if ractice safe
practices, as now is being reported, excess dea s ue to the COVID
pandemic probably will outstrip the num of OVID deaths.
Excess deaths right now have just b ,e d. This came out in
the literature just the other day. is deaths normally, in
actuarial, can predict how many are going to die within a year.
Unfortunately, since the pand c as started, we're actually having
more people die of heart · , of cancer, all these other problems.
Why? People deem it no fe to seek medical care. Those deaths
will probably outstrip t~ number of COVID deaths and, in actuality,
should be attrib to the pandemic when you think it through.
From e ica erspective, we need to maintain safety in order
to have p 1 comfortable in seeking medical care.
e to point out that we have, for a long time, had
m ~...,.._ do have multiple laws regarding public health. We go
.,..., .... ,a.J le who purposely spread HIV. We have laws in the state
o a ida regarding tuberculosis and quarantine and treatment, okay.
We allow people to smoke but now, not because of the effect to the
person, but the effect to other people, we restrict their ability to
smoke in certain places, particularly around children and other
vulnerable individuals.
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I mean, we prohibit rat droppings in, you know, restaurants, and
who among us has not seen the sign "no shoes, no shirt, no service"?
I mean, to me this is no different than the laws that, basically,
bodies like this have instituted in the past for many of the same
reasons. My statistics I'm going to present in verbal form are '-.
somewhat different than what just happened. Essentially, ri lt.J);,
as a team we can predict that if 100 people in Collier Count·~[Pt
COVID, we know approximately 7 percent of them will_._. ..... ~ pin the
hospital. Three of them are going to be really sick. u're really
sick and you make it to the ICU in our institution, ff""ll&ll.,l-.._ ... ave a 28 to
30 percent chance of dying. If you end up o n n asive
positive-pressure ventilator or on a ventilator a a urvive, you will be
there over a month. That's just the raw n be s.
The only way that I can effect gie:dcf-... ..,.lll ... R ... 11-l change is to prevent
people from getting COVID in th ace. From a public health
standpoint, that's what I want to, b 1 lly, focus my efforts on.
I don't want to shut the b or after the cows have escaped
because, essentially, as a ~ ... ~~t-~:-care doctor, that's what I'm doing.
Those statistics, by the wa: ave not changed since March. If
we --if we surge a ain will be able to predict, basically, resource
needs of the hos 1 with accuracy. The goal is to stop this at the
point of wher eop get this.
So, a a · cal professional, I and my colleagues would
recommen continuation of masking until successful
impl ·on of other efforts, including either treatment and/or
· n which would mean that the likelihood of a person
~-~.,~ng COVID is not reasonable.
If we choose to loosen the masking mandate like other places in
the world --So, far most of the places that have lessened their
restrictions have all had surges. I don't expect us to be any different.
If we do, then my recommendation is that you would consider having
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an automatic restart to the mandate. I will accept if people want to
have no masking, but if that fails, let's have the courage to reinstitute
it since that is the one recommendation right now that most of the
medical professionals have.
I thank you for your time.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Just So, the audience unde ...,..,-... __..
as well as Dr. Lindner, the issue of the mask order is not on
agenda today. ~o
DR. LINDNER: I know. ~~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: _,.,.,.,._.. its own
terms two weeks from today.
DR. LINDNER: I know.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: So, w
about the validity of that order, but ~e
weeks from today. ~
DR. LINDNER: I do under ............. ,.'-1-that.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDE 'm sorry.
ave a conversation
at scheduled for two
MR. OCHS: I beli ... ._., ...... e 22nd of October; next week.
CHAIRMAN SA RS: When did I say?
MR. OCHS: Y o~aid two weeks.
COMMISS ER TAYLOR: Next week. A week this
Thursda .
CH SAUNDERS: Oh, I thought we set it for the --
IONER McDANIEL: Twenty-second.
~..,.,,. DNER: It is the 22nd, to my understanding.
IRMAN SAUNDERS: Oh, okay. All right.
. LINDNER: Which is one reason why I felt compelled
a public health --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: For some reason I was thinking it
was the 29th.
DR. LINDNER: --standpoint to comment on it.
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you, sir.
DR. LINDNER: You're welcome.
October 13, 2020
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Any questions? Commissioner
Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes. This chart--and Iju
did a simple calculation. It looks like in one week you had ~'\v
COVID--~
DR. QUINTERO: Those are tests. ,t 0
DR. LINDNER: Those are tests. ~~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: --tests. Ye
testing that we are doing.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: But. ls could be
repeat --like, if someone contracts-.- s y gets COVID, they
have to be tested several times, co,1a:Pir.:
DR. LINDNER: We have t much instituted, if they're
positive, okay, that we are not are following the CDC
guidelines and we are no t ~, ...... g. We are using a symptom-based
strategy.
The PCR is very, ~ry sensitive, and a person can be, basically,
asymptomatic g er than 10 days, and the PCR will continue to pick
up pieces oft e . And that has been documented out to three
months. o, t wonderful thing before PCR is it's highly sensitive.
The bad th out PCR is it's highly sensitive. So, therefore, a
~~-...... ad COVID is now asymptomatic, is not contagious, can
sitive for PCR and yet they are no longer contagious.
MMISSIONER TAYLOR: But --So, this 2,642 tests
represent initial tests of COVID?
DR. LINDNER: These are representing new --at this stage
right now, these are representing new --new testing or testing of
previously, you know, tested people if they were negative.
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL : That's total tests.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you, sir.
DR. LINDNER: You're welcome.
DR. QUINTERO: Good afternoon, and thank you for a lT,.v .....
me to speak on behalf of NCH Healthcare System and over
physicians that I practice with . 0
My name is Carlos Quintero . I was here about ~~~.,~th ago.
Chief quality officer at NCH, Clinical Instructor o ______ .. -...icine with
Mayo Clinic, and also Associate Professor of
University of Central Florida.
I'm also a practicing internist who w
COVID patients on a weekly basis. • I
Dr. Lindner of the COVID Task F-.r ,,_
s i the hospital seeing
a member with
CH.
To clarify on this graph, this .,.,.~-"rl also mean patients that have
been tested within the system e · ively because they were either
negative , they wanted to l,~""a again, So, this is just showing the
number of tests that we've neat NCH Healthcare System, and
there's a couple other sij6es that I'll go over at the end.
First of all, like to thank you for allowing me speak with you
today and for sin mask mandates in July and September. It has
made a di ere , because you and masks have saved lives.
e to report that as of yesterday, NCH has 18
C ~U"' ... ive patients admitted within our system. This is down
t 150 in mid July, just prior to the original mask mandate
th ™ s passed. Our positivity rate remains around 4 to 6 percent.
Our system established early on a mandate mask policy. We
credit that policy with continuing to safeguard the health and
well-being of our staff, patients and, more recently, their loved ones
that are now able to visit them in the hospital safely all because of
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simply wearing a mask.
As we move on to the next phase, as Dr. Lindner was referring
to, Phase 3 of this pandemic and also reopening our economy, we
have begun to open our --reopen our schools and businesses, we
need to be cognizant that the virus is not going away, and we nee to
continue to protect ourselves. ~
As we head into winter season, we need to be aware o reased
prevalence of other viruses such as Influenza A, Influen.-......,~ RSV,
and other viruses that can lead to significant disease ,.,..__,,......,.. ath.
The unintended consequences of social dista .... ...,.., .....
washing, and mask wearing has allowed us at -----~
significantly lower rates of these viruses overt e a t two months.
Compared to August and September of 2 w en we had almost
300 cases of Influenza A, Influenza J3 , nd rhinoviruses, this
year we've only had 82 cases thus _, .. -.,,-.. ater than 70 percent less
than what we saw last year.
This correlates significa · th lower rates of influenza in the
southern hemispheres, w · always been a predicter of what is
to come in the northern h · phere. These lower rates are in no
doubt related to strict lll'l sk adherence.
By keepin r current mask mandate, we will continue to do
the right thin ke this disease controlled and keep our at-risk
populatio erly population, those with cancers and other
diseases, a ildren safe. We reduce the risk of having to shut
dow ..... ,,,~~nomy as many other places have had to do, as Dr.
L.u"}'fllll!k,.~IB.,!1uded to, because of disease resurgence. By keeping the
• .,\'\IIIU ,~ in check, our hospitals will continue to have open-bed
capacity and allow our seasonal residents to know we are a safe
community to come back to.
Many articles have been written about this pandemic with
varying opinions about how our leaders have handled it, but we
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choose to look at the facts and scientific evidence.
Today at NCH and in our community, the facts are this: Our
overall infection rate in the county is on the decline compared to how
it was in July because masks work. The number of hospitalizations
for weeks have now been less than two dozen because masks wo
NCH can safely allow visitors now back into the hospital, sc h,e i an
safely allow children back into the classrooms, as we have ~, and
businesses can safely reopen their doors, as we have do ~ll of
this because masks work. ~ -
My colleagues and I hope that you, as our co~~~~ity leaders,
will listen to your health experts to make the · t i 10n for our
community because the masks work.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: 1 h...,.~-.
DR. QUINTERO: I had tw l e ere. Very brief. I
apologize. So, positivity rates, th es along the lines of what
Department of Health showed positivity rate has come down
nicely over the last sever s.
We potentially saw a t le bit of a surge. It's a little bit hard to
tell what we're seeing i the last few days, but the numbers have
come done nice ver the last month or so.
And this · s he mber of patients that we have treated in NCH
Sy . I showed this graph about a month ago. We
144 patients, and we've come down nicely since the
-"''"-"'11111~_.... ed.
ERNARD: It's okay. I won't touch anything.
Rebecca Bernard. I'm a family physician and the
President of the Collier County Medical Society.
And just very briefly --and I do appreciate your allowing me to
speak on behalf of the community physicians.
Just an update that the CDC did update their website just about a
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week ago to acknowledge that while most cases of COVID are spread
through respiratory droplets, there is an increase --there has become
identified that there is airborne transmission of the virus under
circumstances like an enclosed space.
Although we aren't quite sure how mask mandates have af e
us locally, we do know that they have helped in other commu
and here's a few headlines. And I just want to let you kno,,.,_ ... /1
convened the COVID-19 task force and the board and t
overwhelmingly, the community physicians ---" ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Excuse me. S' ~
DR. BERNARD: Yes. ~~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Can you go ~acK o the last slide.
DR. BERNARD: Yes.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I.
really quickly, but maybe if you c
we can --
're going through this
t spend a second on this So,
DR. BERNARD: Sure. e As I mentioned, we don't
really know, because of ..,.,!Od._~,_, .... .,w_~"Y\ .. ounding variables, how the mask
mandate has affected our "'._._ ...... munity; however, we can see from
other parts of the count~ and outside of the country that areas that
have enacted m mandates have seen a decrease in COVID-19
transmissio
An ow most recently there was an Arizona report
re was a decrease by 75 percent of COVID after
... ,.,..--..q~~ es began. That was just released.
IRMAN SAUNDERS: Yeah. I was in Phoenix for a
oing back about 10 days ago. They have a statewide mask
ordi ance there and --or order, and I didn't see anyone going into a
building without a mask on, and it was pretty universal.
DR. BERNARD: I think it's harder to make a comparison
when you have some areas participating and others not. But here
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you can see that in some areas it's been very effective.
And I just wanted to convey from the physicians in the
community, our COVID-19 Task Force are physicians from multi
specialities that are working in the community with patients mostly
on an outpatient basis but also in hospitals, and our task force '-.
overwhelmingly recommends that we continue with a mask ~~..--·~~..'te .
I've only included here, just for your own personal rev·
of the quotes that I received in writing from different p c ns
saying that they do suggest, especially with Phase 3 r·=..,...,...,,.ing, that
we continue to recommend mask use while we det~~~ ....... e how the
community will be affected. ~
Also physicians are concerned about our a on, which is
upcoming, and the fact that we are enteri · nt flu season. There is
some optimism with the southern h ~m· nd low rates in
Australia. We hope that will be t ,._,,_,,.,. .. , ere, but we need to be
cautious.
Of course, we are still se · This is the death rate in
Florida. We know that ""' ... ...,.."" __ s are trending down, but you can see
that we are still losing pat s every day here in Florida.
And just in summ~, think it's wonderful that the rates are
decreasing, but are still seeing death rates high. And we know
that we are o · ng p, So, we may see more transmission. We
· around the comer, as is season, and So, as medical
profession e would recommend that we remain vigilant,
incl ~~wv use of masks as masks are safe for most people.
_ .... "" .............. you.
AIRMAN SAUNDERS: Mr. Ochs, do we have a report
our staff as well?
MR. OCHS: No, sir. All our operations are full up .
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. Any questions or
comments from the Commission?
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(No response.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I do have one comment, and I
would like to have us double-check this. My recollection is --and it
could be very fuzzy --that when we extended the mask order, m
recollection is Commissioner Solis had put a date in there of
October 22nd, and I recall saying, let's move it to a date that ~'
a meeting. My recollection may be completely wrong b~~
Commissioner Solis, have you --'--'
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: In fact, I just --I w. ·nking the
same thing, and I asked Angela to go back to the v. · nd,
apparently, I had said the 13th. ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. .~ ,_.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: And yo ad said the 22nd. I
think it was because it was a Thursd.aY.r~--.--had the meeting.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: ay.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: ~ ... ~,v.,a. So, I was under the same
impression. I thought it was .Jo..'V'IIW..L~ to be a date that we had a
meeting scheduled for, b ears that that's now what we did.
COMMISSIONER LOR: The 22nd.
CHAIRMAN SAl)'J" RS: The implication is that this --it
expires on the 2 . We don't have a meeting between now and the
22nd. I'm g we arified that, at least in my mind, because I
thought I ad -had intended to make it on a meeting date.
COM IONER SOLIS: That's what I thought we had done
IRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Any questions or
ii-.i,,,,-nts from the Commission?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: If not, then public comment.
MR. MILLER: Yes, Mr. Chairman. I have three registered
speakers for this item. Your first speakers is Stephanie Nordin.
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She'll be followed by Dan Cook. All these speakers are here in the
room.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. And we generally limit
our speakers to three minutes, So, try to stick with that as closely as
we can. ~
MS. NORDIN: I'll do my best. ~
Good afternoon. My name is Stephanie Nordin, and I
native to Collier County. I've also had the privilege to ~my four
boys raised here. We love this area, and we're prou · ents.
My oldest boy is my 11-year-olds. They're ~-.... um --or
my oldest boy is my twins. They're going to week.
Shortly after their first birthday, they were dia o e with autism.
In those early years, the boys would get S , fru trated that I wasn't
understanding what they were com~u · , So, they would bang
their heads into the concrete. So, o, that one broke his nose
and one got a concussion. And S ut helmets on them to ensure
their safety. ~
They averaged abo three hours of sleep at night, and I'd
often find them in danger situations in the wee hours of the night.
So, I got them special-~eds beds to get them --keep them safe.
One day m n was jumping on the trampoline in the backyard,
pulled a Hou · n · ac jumped the fence, and took off. A police
officer bro h · back to me and said that they found him in the
middle of · r Boulevard when there is a lot of construction and
he ~~ So, I utilized the safety tracking devices offered
t ~--e Sheriffs Department to keep them safe.
ter these and many other experiences, I did find a solution; a
ther py approach called Applied Behavior Analysis, or ABA therapy.
ABA therapy is an evidence-based treatment that is highly
data-driven and highly successful. Because of ABA, my kids are no
longer wearing helmets, they sleep in regular beds, and I don't have
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to worry about them escaping. They read, they write, they speak,
and it's been a miracle for my family.
One of the gifts this experience has given me is understanding
the importance of evidence and data, especially in times of
uncertainty and panic. Emotional response, personal beliefs, an
anecdotal information skew results, rendering it ineffective. ~
When you decided to change your decision to enforce ., ... ~.._ ...... ask
mandate, there was not new evidence or data behind the ~ning.
It was changed based on emotional response, person · efs, and
anecdotal information.
Stephanie Vick stated that if we would g
10 percent positivity rate, that we would phase ese protective
measures. And here we are at less than re nt positivity rate, and
the survival for the majority of the n on r is at 99 percent.
The data mandating the mas ... .,,..,.. ..... ~ t match the consequences;
however, the consequences of you ision have created new data
that's far more troubling. Arr ave increased by 79 percent in
Collier County since the a.fillllll,..-fV,--,,+J f is pandemic. Domestic abuse,
child abuse, murder, and · ide are prevalent in our previously safe
community. ✓
The menta alth and social strife your mandate has caused has
tri ntal than the health and safety of our choice to
t.
_, ...... ._ aphorically banging our heads against the concrete
~~""'re frustrated that you're not understanding what we are
.._. ... _ ........ "'1111~ ....... ·,..,ating. We've protected ourselves and our families from
ar more worse than that virus, and infringing our personal
righ to freedom in the name of health is unacceptable, and we need
to end the mask mandate.
Thank you.
MR. MILLER: Your next speaker is Dan Cook, and he will be
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followed by Jim MacArthur.
Mr. Cook, you could use the other podium, if you'd like, while
she cleans this one. Thank you, sir.
MR. COOK: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
So, I'm here today, obviously, to speak to the mask mandate
how it's affected me. As Stephanie just said, the mental heal
aspect of, you know, the repercussions of the mask mandat~rn
can't be measured. You know, I don't have statistics o--L_~"llilo:.._
know, how wearing a mask affects me. Sorry, I'm a · shaken up
here. ~~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Take your . ~~ d if you need
more than three minutes, that's not a problem.
MR. COOK: All right. Thank yo . I a preciate it.
Let me just share my personal ~to~ the masks. I've lost
my job twice due to COVID. Fir a.~cause of the economic
downturn back in March. I was b s ally the first one on the
chopping block and ended up · my job. Fortunately, a few
weeks later, I got my job ~..,-was happy about that. Then at
mid summer I was faced the --pretty much the dilemma of
wearing a mask at my j~. Certain clients would come in. They
were concerned ut the spread of COVID so, understandably, I
gave it a shot w the mask at work. I didn't want to, but I did
it, you kn w, 6 use I had to maintain a paycheck.
It affe:1~'e"'.~me in a real negative way. First, I was able to wear
e minutes at a time, and no --no major concerns, but I
Thursday I had to wear it probably four or five different
ti ith clients. And to make a long story short, when I got back
to my office, I felt my heart rate increase rapidly. I suffer from
PTSD, So, I think wearing the mask triggered that for me. So, by
putting it on, it raises my heart rate dramatically. I noticed I had a
pretty severe headache.
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And So, I guess my point is that, you know, from my personal
perspective, I tried wearing the mask. I literally tried doing it, but I
couldn't. I ended up quitting my job over that because I wasn't going
to continue to put a paycheck over my health.
And So, as we're here today, I know you guys just heard fro
NCH hospital, you heard from several people speaking to the rw;i.T1's.)_JJ
of masks in our society, but I think that it's important for y,._u..-,.
consider the perspective of, you know, the negative asp
wearing a mask.
So, I do hope that if you --whether it's goin
or at the next County Commissioners meetin~ d ope that you
would hear from some other health profession s ho might have a
different take on the mask to at least just e ore of a fair and
balanced --So, that you have more ~f 11.'f ...... ~ ... -:l.l'-r_l~·~...ation if --I'm not
sure if I'm conveying what I'm try· y here.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: 're conveying it very well.
And, again, if you need some ime, just go ahead.
MR. COOK: No. ,. ... _..IIIF" conveyed it, So, I appreciate that.
CHAIRMAN SA Let me ask you a quick question.
We generally don't ask ,veakers questions, but I'm curious. You quit
your job. But it your employer was requiring the wearing of a
mask becaus a1 customers or clients felt more comfortable that
way? Is t at t happened?
MR. : Yeah, that's accurate.
AN SAUNDERS: Okay.
COOK: All right.
AIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Thank you very much.
MR. MILLER: Mr. Chairman, your final registered speaker for
this item is Jim MacArthur.
(No response.)
MR. MILLER: I will call his name again. Jim MacArthur?
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(No response.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right.
MR. MILLER: I have the slip, but he's not here, sir.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: If he shows up while we're having
any discussion, we'll --~
MR. MILLER: I will let you know, sir. Thank you. ,, '\ ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Anybody else? ~
MR. MILLER: That was it, sir. 0
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Anyone in the au..___ ..... _, 1n
addition to that. All right. ~
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. li t e have on the
agenda is simply a COVID report. Any ments or questions from
the Board? And if not, we'll move _p n~
(No response.) ~~,..
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: right. Seeing none, thank you
very much for the report, and ' ove on to the next item.
MR. OCHS: Next ·~..,.
CHAIRMAN SA RS: I'm sorry. Commissioner Solis.
COMMISSIONE S LIS: I'm sorry. You know, on second
thought, let me · ask one question. Given our kind of
misunderstan~---......., o hat the dates were, I mean, should we discuss
what we 01 to do on the 22nd and whether or not --you know,
do w -do we want to discuss this on the 22nd, or do we not
~ ....... _.u __ .. ~ss it on the 22nd, or do we want to leave it up to an
meeting? I'm just trying to consider what --if it's going
i s not going to come up again before the next commission
mee ing, should we schedule something to have a decision made at
the time that it expires?
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Well, that would require having a
special meeting or an emergency meeting on or before the 22nd.
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The process for an emergency meeting is three commissioners, or I
believe the chairman can call one.
We can sit here today and set a regular meeting for sometime
probably between now and the 22nd ifwe So, desire. The question
becomes whether or not we want to do anything with this mask o
and if we want to just let it expire for the time being, then we ~4
have to do anything. ~
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Right. 0
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: So, at this point, --J•--e nothing
on the agenda. We have no meeting scheduled.
October 22nd --and, unfortunately, I thought ought it
was the 29th.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I did, t
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: 1Jn J .............. ,"lcYl'""ly, because that would
have given us an opportunity top · e agenda ifwe wanted to.
Right now there's nothing. So, w 'l ove on. If there's a desire to
set a special meeting, someon ake a motion to do that. If we
don't set a special meeti , if someone has a desire to ask for
an emergency meeting, w n certainly do that; otherwise, the order
will expire at midnight n t e 22nd.
COMMISS ER FIALA: On what? 29th, did you say?
CHAI N UNDERS: Twenty-second.
CO ...,.,..,,.~IIK.._ NER FIALA: Oh, I thought you said the 29th.
CHA N SAUNDERS: I had--for some reason I was
... ~~W""n I asked for it to be extended, my intent was to extend
xt regularly scheduled meeting, but I wasn't very articulate
in --....,,~g that, obviously. So, if there's no other discussion, we'll
move on, unless there's more discussion on this.
I don't see anybody's light lit up, So, let's move on.
Item #lOA
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RESOLUTION 2020-188: FORMALIZE A BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS POSITION SUPPORTING THE MULTI-USE
CORRIDORS OF REGIONAL ECONOMIC SIGNIFICANCE i._M-
CORES) PROGRAM ONLY IF THE PROGRAM DOES NOT ~
SUPPLANT OR DELAY EXISTING FLORIDA DEPART
OF TRANSPORTATION (FOOT) WORK PROGRAM PR TS
IN COLLIER COUNTY -ADOPTED ~o
MR. OCHS: That takes us to Item l0A.
recommendation to formalize the Board of C
position supporting the multiuse corridors of r i na economic
significance known as M-CORES progra nly if the program does
not supplant or delay existing Flori c1a ,~,:i,I.J# ent of Transportation
work program projects in Collier ar..~,--. Commissioner Taylor
brought this item forward on the a e a.
to --
COMMISSIONER McD.-.--. ... -~L: What's the item again?
CHAIRMAN SA 'ullli...,, ............ 11R',,..,: Commissioner Taylor, I'm going
COMMISSIONE McDANIEL: Forgive me.
COMMISS ER TAYLOR: l0A.
CHAI N UNDERS: I know this is your item. I want
mment, just as you get into this item. I've had
.._ .............. ter of fact, I was going to put something of this
natu:r: o agenda at some point.
MISSIONER TAYLOR: Oh, okay.
AIRMAN SAUNDERS: I'm not a supporter of the
M ES projects necessarily. I certainly do not know enough
about the one that impacts Collier County directly, So, I'm not going
to be --unless I get good information from my colleagues here, I'm
going to be hard-pressed to support any resolution supporting
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M-CORES at this point. And I would ask that ifwe get into that,
that we have a hearing on it. So, anyway, I just wanted to lay that
foundation, because I have a problem with this.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. So, time is --the clock
is ticking. We've got one more meeting, and then it goes. An~
actually, I'm going to --this is going to be a little bit longer t~t
expected it to be given your response. And --~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: That's why I wanted.~
something . I didn't --~ --
CO MMIS SI ONER TAYLOR: Thank you. ~ ... ,~.._ ...... ..,, .. you.
Thank you. ~
We are in --I am, as a member, I don't kn~"':'1f my colleague to
the left is , but I'm in a real predicament i oral sense because we
have been given a task that, when w.e v.: t, we're not allowed to
vote against it. ~
COMMISSIONER FIALA: allowed to what?
COMMISSIONER TAY . We're not allowed to vote
against it.
CHAIRMAN SA RS: I like that. That makes passage a
whole lot more likely. ✓
COMMISS ER TAYLOR: They basically have said this is
a statute , and w follow the statute , and you will do as you're
told, and t at i e way it's been since last year.
And t ~~eetings are extremely well run by FDOT. I'm
suggesting that FDOT is doing anything but following
re told to do and following the process of what they have
ld to do.
But what is happening is we have heard no build, no build, no
build, because I can tell you in our task force --and it's in the most
current redline version of the report --the majority of task force
members, or the feeling is, they don't want it. But we are not
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allowed to say no build. We are only allowed to give consensus.
And I've --the four points of consensus --and I think my
colleague to my left can help me --are the only negative thing we can
say is that we agree not to oppose it.
So, I'm having a huge dilemma here, because I have --there
some serious issues with this, but when I signed up for it, I si21¾~~p
as a proponent of it and --but yet everything is pointing to · is just
not the wrong --the right thing to do. _____ ,, ...... o
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Is this where they -~--to build
the three roads all from the Tampa area down here
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No, ma' 1ght up in the
middle of the state. It's the Heartland Parkwa , a d it's a toll road
but it's --C, _
COMMISSIONER McDANIE~: ~s not the toll road. It
is a toll road, but not the Heartlan J-•;r-.,,ay.
COMMISSIONER TA YLO · s the path --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDE ang on, guys. Let's let
Commissioner Taylor fi · , then, Commissioner McDaniel,
we'll get to your response.
COMMISSIONE TAYLOR: And So, what we've got is on
the statute --an going to read the statute, this part, and it
says --the ec mi easibility is something that we're now wrestling
with now· th sk force. And under 339.1373 --and forgive me.
It's Line 7 d I hope --with my attorney friends here, I hope I'm
quot· .___ orrectly.
MISSIONER FIALA: Somehow I cannot find it in mine,
So, ' glad --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No, you can't. This is the
statute. This is the actual statute created in Tallahassee creating
M-CORES. It's the Multiuse Corridors of Regional Economic
Significance Program, and it's the funding, and it says: The
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department shall allocate sufficient funds to implement the Multiuse
Corridors of Regional Economic Significance Program, that is
M-CORES, okay. Develop a plan to expend the revenues as
specified in Statute 338.2278. And prior to its adoption, amend the
current tentative work program for the 2019/2020 through 2023
2024 fiscal years to include the program's projects. ,, '\ ~
In addition, prior to adoption of the work program, the~
department shall submit a budget amendment pursuant t t tute
339.137(7) --I'm sorry, 339.135(7), requesting budg
necessary to implement the program as specified i
338.22 --.2278. It is also required that when e s is and when
they identify where the interchanges are suppo to be on this
corridor, that they --the communities tha ese interchanges are in
must change their Comprehensive P a y don't have a choice.
Now, we were all in the MP -._T,~'...-.. _, · g. Ma'am, you weren't
there on Friday. I've got to figure r t now the delta between the
needs and the --the needs an ~-~ scally --what is it, fiscally
feasible. "-,I
MR. CASALANG : Financially feasible plan.
COMMISSIONE TAYLOR: Financially feasible is one --in
Collier County i e billion dollars. One billion dollars that we
don't --that 'Y("~ s rt. It's in the red.
Now t~ot this M-CORES coming through that is
$3 5 millio ar the state legislature has to put aside to make this
road o hey say that the tolls may help pay, and tolls --there's a
lo-t---ing and everything. But all this is happening when we are
no cing an economic downturn because of COVID, and I think,
Deputy Manager Casalanguida, will you please give us the history
what's happened with the interchange.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Yeah. And I'm --we helped
worked with --this item with Commissioner Taylor a little bit
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because it's a little bit of a push-and-pull item.
The only corridor you have in Collier County is State Road 29.
So, realistically, in Collier County, State Road 29 is your M-CORES
project. State Road 29 has already gone through PD&E and is
already partially in the plan. But as Commissioner Taylor point
out, it's not in the financially feasible plan, all links of it. So
we said in working with her was we agree that you shouldn'
deferring other critical projects. We have programmati Q
interchanges that are working with FDOT. In the ne..,._,., .... ~ple weeks
we'll be bringing an item to accelerate the I-75/95 -T--· ct with
DOT. ~
So, the resolution or request as written by missioner Taylor
is fine because we agree with that. Whe taf, I think, disagreed a
little bit, and being fair, you know, w e' -... .,.., n-• ...... --,.:.,r .. _n 1-to 2,000 people
moving in this state. Your I-75 c.arr,lllli:l o s already going through,
you know, portions of failure. TH e widening the interchange, but
that's not going to do any gooA.-t use your side street can't handle
that. ~
So, they know State d 29 in Collier County is better --the
chosen alignment. On~ it veers out of the Collier County, it
changes a little · You don't know how they're going to fund this.
Most likely, ~11 a toll facility or portions thereof, because
they're goi :.,!~ve to come up with new funding to do this.
So fr staff perspective, Trinity, myself, Thaddeus, you
need c · · s to be programmed. How you fund them at the state
le ~.,.., to them. So, long as they don't defer our capital projects
th ....,.,_.n.; promised to us, staff is in support of new roadways that
provide capacity. You know, I think you're in a little bit of --I don't
want to call it a quandary, but they're asking you to approve
something in other districts that --with this M-CORES project. But
for you M-CORES is State Road 29.
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And the issue also would be
with this --for Collier County, but not for the --not for the district,
because we're --we have Wauchula, we have Hendry, we have --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Glades.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: --Glades, we have Lee sit 1
at the table with us. There's 4 7 --,, '\ ~
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Charlotte. ~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: What else? Who.r._ e
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Charlotte. ~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Charlotte. ' the whole
district. We --as this portion, the M-CORE d into three.
So, this is --this is our portion. I represent C i r ounty.
Commissioner McDaniel represents the S th lorida Water --not
South Florida Water --South Florid~ ...... '-.Tc.1...1. ....... Planning Council.
But I guess I've got two thin t One of the
recommendations is that when the provements are needed, that
we improve existing roads be e lay new pavement, that we
widen and we make the specially 27, which is very --going
up through the middle of state south of Orlando. Those places,
29 could be widened. ha 's fine. We're in agreement. But to lay
new pavement i big problem.
So, I gu<s)'m sking for your support on what's before you, but
I'm also as i~~there are four attorneys sitting here. One, two,
three --thr ~"'--orneys. No one else is an attorney. How do
I --h lfUIII~ --how do I face this question about limiting what I have
? I've been going between saying, okay, I'm not going to
this to saying I'm not going to comment. I don't know what
to d . I'm serious, I don't know what to do.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: So, I'm going to leave this for
everyone.
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yeah. Let's do this: We've got
the resolution in support of this that's before us. Commissioner
McDaniel, we'll deal with that. And then in terms of how do you
proceed, you don't have a whole lot of options. You can resign.
But, Commissioner McDaniel. ~
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Thank you, Mr. Chai
concur partly with what Commissioner Taylor had to say. · task
force has been --has been deemed to make guiding prin
road facility from Lakeland to 1-75 with no line on th~~~PIJ Now,
think about that.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: You ask At the first
meeting you asked for it.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: p·
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR:. us where you want it to
go. ~
COMMISSIONER McDANI That's correct. And
So, --and then with lack of de n, in all sincerity, I know what
no build means, you kno no build means, but the layperson
doesn't necessarily know no build doesn't mean nothing. It
means certain segment~re going to be constructed, certain segments
are going to be t d, certain priorities are going to be placed. But
the layperso ~es build as what? Zero. So, that's Conundrum
No.1. ........_ ~
And t ou move into these guiding principles and then,
~....,,.., , we were tasked for a year and a half to reach out to the
blic and ask about opinions for this road based upon the
s requisites for the priorities of it to be constructed to support
economically deprived --or deprived communities, enhance negative
impacts that are already existent from certain constructed roads.
You know, I've called State Road 29 the "damn dam" multiple
times because that's what it has become. When 29 was built, they
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dug that canal as a borrow ditch to build the road, and it now funnels
all the water south and out as opposed to over into the panther
preserve and the like.
So, we have had a very, very difficult time for a year and a half
dealing with the general --misinformed general public about th ~
understanding of what build/no build means. ,, '\ ~
It was early on, and Paul --~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Audubon. ,tO
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah, Audub l ~I want to
say Paul Hiltz, but it's not Hiltz. Hines. Hines, I~ ... ._ . Anyway,
gentleman from the Audubon Society said it ie , and I
concurred with him, the Heartland Expresswa s t going to work.
We have to follow an existing route some er , and then take into
account the statutes requisites for as~is c r economically
deprived communities as a portio along with the
environmental enhancements that e attributed if, say, in our
world --and I talk to the DOT arly. It's fairly well
evident --and I think yo ..._.,"'ven concur with this --29 is the
only route, if it comes thr , that could be utilized for Collier
County. ✓
And So, --we all know that there's --well, I think they
reported last e tin they've already lost nine panthers at the bend
just south f I kalee. And we've already gone through the
hydro lo with regard to the surface flow coming out of the
OK '°"..,,. The folks from the panther preserve had talked to us
ting that extra water coming underneath and how we can
en.L ....._...~e the wildlife crossings and the sheet flow and all of the things
that can be done to enhance State Road 29 if, in fact, it becomes a
priority with the department.
Once you get up to LaBelle-ish, it becomes very blurry as to
where that road's going to go, how it's going to get to Lakeland. I
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mean, the plausible path is 29 to 27 and up to Lakeland and/or 17 /31,
but the terminus of 31 is State Road 80. And then we run into an
issue with dumping an enormous amount of traffic on the southern
end of I-7 5 on down through to us, which doesn't effectuate the
premise of the statute. ~
So, what I would suggest as we go forward is I'm not in ~
opposition of this process. I'm not in opposition of snatchi new
road down through the middle of farm fields and that so hing,
because that's a terrible --I believe it's a terrible imp ....,...... .. ~ the
environment, and it parcels off land ownership, an es an
enormous amount of negativity. And compa t · , in fact, this
goes forward, prioritization can come for kno e cits that are
existent. Because I think the entire com tee can concur that if it's
going to go, it needs to follow an ex· st· r route. It has to stay
on that route. That does mean ex ment if they were to
four-lane 29, but that also comes aising, allowing for sheet flow
underneath, wildlife crossings 11 of the enhancements that come
from an environmental P. ve. But we're not snatching a
four-lane road like they o i ally promised or thought about
Heartland Expressway ~at went right down through the middle of the
state between 2 7. d 1 7.
CHAI N UNDERS: And I think what I would be
supportiv rms of a motion or a resolution from the Board is
·--~r., -CORES project as it relates to State Road 29. Can
ll}lllllw,,'-' just State Road 29 and not get into the other corridors
reate problems?
supp
we
t
MMISSIONER McDANIEL: Sure. Candidly,
missioner Taylor's ordinance that she's brought forward does
okay. I did speak with the DOT. This isn't prohibitive for what
Collier County has in place or what the DOT has in place. And it is
a halfway to get there; not in opposition of but not in support of either
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at the same time. We don't want to --we don't want to lose the
prioritization of what Collier County already has on its --on its --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah. It doesn't --what I'm
saying right now is whatever happens with M-CORES, keep thei lan
the way it is and don't supplant it with M-CORES coming in ---,.,..~
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: For us specifically. ~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: --despite what the sta says,
and keep the priorities. And it's not a resolution, but I' e ainly
think we could --I would love a resolution if there w ~~agreement
to do that.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yeah. W ant us to
formalize a position, So, generally that would q ire --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No.~ ~ould like you to.
They don't want it. This is --• JO
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS:
COMMISSIONER TAYLO · is is just one commissioner
seeing the handwriting on the nd looking at the history of
what's going on and und~it~~g that we're one billion between
what we want and what ve money for to understand what's
coming up --
CHAIRM
Attorney, d
the way
✓
SAUNDERS: Could you, then, with the County
res ution for our next meeting that is limited to or
ggested it?
IONER McDANIEL: Aren't we going to --I didn't
mea ~_..... pt. But aren't we voting before our next meeting?
MISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah. May --would you --if
w in agreement, would you work with the County Attorney on
that.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Well, I think --I can make a
motion. The County Attorney can take that motion and draft
something --draft a resolution from it. He doesn't have to have the
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paper in front of him. But what I was thinking of was a resolution
supporting the M-CORES project in Collier County since that project
will result in improvements to State Road 29 that are much needed
but also with the understanding that we don't take money from other
projects --~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: In Collier. ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: --in Collier County for _.,~~--If
we limit it to State Road 29, I'm totally supportive. I j d1 n't want
to come out in support ofM-CORES globally.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: One of th ~~_._.ow-,s --if I may.
One of the things that I did ask for was that if, · , t e project
goes forward, the process is is the committee's o g to make --the
task force is going to make a report, supp n t support, however
we end up voting, then it goes to th ~ Q,~:~~~~ and the legislature
who then put the line on the map t --nd then it comes back to
the local communities once the lin and that was one of the things
that I ensured happened, beca on't want to be expressing an
opinion about what trans · endry County. I want the people
in Hendry to be doing tha d, vice versa, I don't want some --I
don't want people comin here and telling us what's best for us.
CHAIRM SAUNDERS: So, does the motion that I was
kind of articu g there, will that cover what we need to do?
CO I NER McDANIEL: Basically, it's Commissioner
Tayl ion, whatever --the recommendation that is here
do lant any of our work, and it supports the work programs
1 County. It does globally --
MMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah, because it's been within
istrict, right? The money moves through the district.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That's correct.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: They do a state transportation
improvement plan that gets adopted at the state level, and then they
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have to amend your LRTP. So, you get a lot of bites at this apple.
LK's comment to me was, you know, State Road 29 is
theoretically the only logical location; however, I have to continue to
look at things. If the Board is concerned about the funding, then
state so, and we'll put that note in there. ~
Once you start leaving the county and start making com~@;
about other facilities, you know, we'll take that into consid~n, but
as Commissioner McDaniel pointed out, sometimes oth
jurisdictions take offense when one county starts telli
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Not this one.
commissioners saying, wait a minute, and tha
We don't want money taken from our plan for i road.
m what --
already have
MR. CASALANGUIDA: I'm talki bout the alignment,
ma'am, or the project moving forwai d,
COMMISSIONER TAYLO
district has a pot of money from
within that district.
MR. CASALANG "'-t,ft: ........ "1!11'-es.
e alignment. But the
they decide who gets what
COMMISSIONE LOR: So, what we --what we were
saying is we don't want nything in our district, and then I think the
separate issue w d be the Immokalee Road because, in theory, they
could say, ok~;we , we'll make sure that Immokalee Road or that
State 29 [ s · c L ~ improvements but, oh, by the way, we're going to
wait on tha rchange because we're going to use the money up the
road.
CASALANGUIDA: But it always comes back to --the
go ing is that for them to do that, they have to amend the Long
Range Transportation Plan at your MPO meeting. So, every year
they provide you a State Transportation Improvement Plan where
they amend funding, So, that would have to happen. So, you get to
have that conversation through the MPO process.
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yeah, unless the legislature takes
that away from us.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Well, all bets are off, sir.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That takes it all away from us
at the same time, because it's going back to the Governor and ~
legislature. ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Right. So, that's why I ted to
limit it just to we support M-CORES in our county bee ~
M-CORES --as it relates to improvements to State ~ ..... ._9 and with
the understanding it doesn't take money away fro~.~~~~.L projects.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I sup t otion if it gets
us to where we need to go.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Let me k a question.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: y e o issioner Fiala.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: of you who have been
involved, what do the ranchers an farmers believe who they've --
COMMISSIONER McD.-.--. .. -~ They like it.
COMMISSIONER .... ...,. .. ,,...,,. You know, we're the second
largest cattle state in the c try, and this is going through some
cattle areas. And wha~bout the farmers? Are they in agreement to
this?
CHAI
(Si
UNDERS: Commissioner McDaniel.
s crosstalk.)
..a.~IONER McDANIEL: Yeah. Then Commissioner
Tayl ~ciifllllllllliF"' ncur. I mean, as a general rule, everyone on the task
fa agreement that following an existing road route is the best
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You mean 29?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Twenty-nine and then 27
going on up to Lakeland or 17, 31, coming down to 80. They run
into a terminus there, as I said. But no --even the farmers, even the
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ranchers --now there are a few ranchers in the middle that would like
to see a road snatched right up through their property, but that's not --
CO MMIS SI ONER TAYLOR: And have the interchange right
there.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Right. But that's not --
evidently --that's not going to occur. There is So, much --t i::>1ra. ...... CI'
an --I say "So, much." There is an enormous amount of
improvement. We've already learned about the degrad.~,.~-'J
transpired because of the construction of some of the ~1.iao
have. 29's a perfect example. And enhancement.~ ..... -could come
both hydrologically, environmentally, habitat,~ i g across the
board, so... ,\, ,
That's --that's as close as we can get ht now given the
handcuffs that we've had by the sta~te .... ---.lioc-at the committee can,
in fact, vote on or against. ~
But, Commissioner Saunders surmised or summarized a
position that I could accept go· rward from this board, you know.
And, Commissioner TaY, ave to flip your coin as to whether
or not you're going to co ith the task force or what you're going
to do in that regard. B~ as a board, you know, we should, I think,
stay locally here · th our own county, because who knows best.
CHAI N UNDERS: Do we have some public
comment?
MR. Sir, I have one registered speaker online. Are
her?
IRMAN SAUNDERS: Yeah. Let's go ahead and hear.
R. MILLER: Our only registered speaker for this item is
Meredith Budd.
Meredith, if you're with us, you'll have three minutes. Are you
here?
MS. BUDD: I am. Are you able to hear me?
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MR. MILLER: Yes, ma'am. Please begin.
MS. BUDD: Great. Thank you. Meredith Budd on behalf of
the Florida Wildlife Federation.
The Federation has been and remains opposed to M-CORES as a
whole. Roads are one of the leading causes of death for the ~
endangered Florida panther, and adding 130 miles of roads th\~
the remaining habitat not only puts Florida panthers at a gr~ nsk
of being hit and killed, but it will undoubtedly undermi decades
of conservation work that has been put forth in recov--JUllil" the . species.
M-CORES was introduced by lawmaker-,.._.._-
in any of the major FDOT transportation plans. is is a backwards
process and an inappropriate way to appr~~ t ansportation
planning. • ~ ~
There are infrastructure need ~~sting roads across the state,
including SR29 that have plans in 1 e and have been long included
in those plans. These actual ~-.._L,,., are being sidelined for roads that
have not been identified haal~-tM, ...... portation planners.
Florida has already ~,·r,.... toll roads than any other state, and
several of these existin~roads, toll roads, do not actually attract
sufficient numb to support the economic impact. There's no
evidence to s ort at these proposed roads will be any more
economic 1 le. They will cause irreparable damage to
Florida's n rlt.ti ;I-resources and inhibit much needed water-quality
1mpr e s.
s are dams. They completely alter hydrology. The state
ally begun to prioritize water-quality needs. In fact, the
Picayune Strand restoration, part of the comprehensive Everglades
restoration project right here in Collier County, is spending billions
of taxpayer dollars to remove roads in order to restore historic flow.
These new toll roads are counterintuitive to the state's long-term
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investments in restoring water quality.
M-CORES is prioritizing the wants of lawmakers over the
conservation of Florida's most valuable natural resources. There is
always a no build option as part of the project development and
environmental studies that will be required for each road segme~
SR29 improvements, since they are already in FDOT's plann~~
processes, will move forward with or without M-CORES.
I urge you to reject any recommendation to suppo -ORES'
initiative but rather focus on supporting the current a
studied projects that FDOT has in their plans for S
impact Collier County. I serve on that EAG ---.--~-
important segments. Moving forward current , ere are current
plans. M-CORES is not needed for thes · ovements to move
forward. A
Thank you for your time, an • ~ou for allowing me to
present comments.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDE hank you.
Commissioner Tayl , e no problem in not making any
motion at all, but if we ne o do something, then I would make it
limited to the way I des ibed it. So, do you want us --do you want
some official m n from this board?
COMM O R TAYLOR: I think the motion would be as
it's writte at --where M-CORES will bring long planned and
much need provements to SR29, it shouldn't be the expense of
other. .L._,..--=.... ...... _,.'-JL<-sly planned transportation.
IRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. So, --
MMISSIONER TAYLOR: So, just the wording in there, I
thin , is as far as we can get, yeah.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I will support a motion to support
the M-CORES Collier County project that will result in
improvements to State Road 29 as long as it does not supplant other
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needs. That way we're not talking about any other roads. We're not
talking about any other alignments. We're talking about an
alignment that already exists that needs to be improved anyway.
So, if that is satisfactory with you, I'll make that motion.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes. ~
COMMISSIONER FIALA: That seems to work. ,, '\ ~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes. ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Is there a.r~ o d?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Second. s~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. We motion and
a second. The County Attorney can draft up r 1 tion, put all
the fancy whereases and therefores and be it re o e whatevers in
there, but that will be the substance of it. ny further discussion?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: 1 re going against what
the state legislature --~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: , but we're not supporting
tearing up farmlands and all i ........_'-"lllllit -'-""-'-communities.
COMMISSIONER .... ...,. .. ,,...,,. Good. Can they just override us?
COMMISSIONER LOR: They already have.
CHAIRMAN SA~ RS: Absolutely. This resolution will
mean nothing to legislature. So, I mean, it's --they're going to
do what they' oi to do.
CO I NER McDANIEL: It's --and I don't mean to
MMISSIONER McDANIEL: We've spent a year and a half
of our life on this task force, and we will get overrun the minute it
gets sent to the Governor and the legislature. So, this is a nice thing
for us to do, and it sets priorities for our community and how this
board currently feels.
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah, we need that.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: But it's already heading down
a path.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay. So, in this demand from
them, they're also saying we have to come up with a billion dolla ?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: No. No, no. ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: They can't do that. Tha ne
thing they can't do. ,t 0
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay. ~~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Mr. Klatzkow,
anything else from us in reference to the resol
need
MR. KLATZKOW: No, sir.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All ri
a second. If there's no further disc
e have a motion and
n favor, signify by
saying aye.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS:
COMMISSIONER FIA
CHAIRMAN SA
COMMISSIONER LOR: Aye.
COMMISSIONE McDANIEL: Aye.
CHAIRM SAUNDERS: All opposed?
right.
It
AUNDERS: That passes unanimously. All
STA F AND COMMISION GENERAL COMMUNICATIONS
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, that moves us to Item 15, staff and
Commission general communications. I have one --one item.
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The Commission was --I received a letter from Carson Turner.
He's the chair of the county's Coalition for Responsible Management
of Lake Okeechobee. The Coalition is having a meeting on
October 30th and has invited one of the Board members, if they have
an interest, to attend. So, if any one of you have an interest in '-.
attending this, if you'd just let me know, and we'll work with x~~'}'
the arrangements. ~
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Do you want to~~?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: (Nods head.) ~
MR. OCHS: Yeah. We'll be sending a me1 --~ f the staff as
well.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL:
Taylor.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS:
COMMISSIONER TAYLO
MR. OCHS: Water-qualit
COMMISSIONER TAY
MR. OCHS: Very
Taylor.
hat.
kind of works with my --
. Yeah, water quality.
e'll work with Commissioner
That's all I had thi~afternoon, sir.
CHAIRM SAUNDERS: All right. Commissioner
McDaniel, do u H e anything else?
CO I NER McDANIEL: Yeah. I only have --I have
ere, and I haven't seen any or had any communication
~..r---t I would like for us to, as a board or policy, work
s eater communication with our utility companies.
TH e' --I've had --I've had some very, very shocking experience
occur in Eastern Collier County.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No pun intended.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Literally, by FP&L. Thank
you for getting that, by the way.
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But the --they built a --FP &L built a transfer plant at 4 7th and
Immokalee Road and then snatch those high-tension power poles that
are --three of us holding hands can't reach the base of, and put it
right down through the front of people's houses. And when I saw it
going --I saw it being built, and I called our Deputy County ~
Manager, and I was like, what's that? And he blamed the sc
district at first, and then I talked to Dr. Patton and, no, it wa
and then we did some searching and found out that it w
And So, I know that the utility easements are o
the --and I know we have to be careful about too .lll'T"III'-~
involvement, but on the same token, notice is u e hen you
have that kind of circumstance going on. It w s miles of
people's houses, and they're snatching tho hig -tension powers
right down through their house --riiht eir street with no
communication whatsoever. ~ ~
COMMISSIONER FIALA: .~·
COMMISSIONER McD.-.--. ... -~L: And so, I think maybe, if
staff would --if we as a ................... uld make some suggestion to reach
out to all of the utility co nies. Lee Co-op, FP&L. We all know
TECO just brought in g,s lines from Fort Myers in through
Immokalee, So, ural gas is coming at us on a regular basis as well,
and we could th communication out as to what their capital
projects ar w they're coming, So, that we could at least let
people kno . t would --I think it would --I think it would behoove
us al , ally because natural gas is coming to the urban area. It's
c .., --, ...... -...... ~..., wn Immokalee Road and through Golden Gate Estates, and
it ..,..,..._J!,1-.J.ately is coming in, so ...
COMMISSIONER FIALA: And I always thought all utilities
would have to advise you first before they came into your
neighborhood. I didn't realize they just tear everything apart, and
you have no say what whoever.
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I do want to recommend also
that we do hire those contractors that put in the TECO lines to do all
of our drainage and ditches, because they do --they did an amazing
job. It was slick and better than it was when they got there.
So, other than that, I have nothing else, Mr. Chair. ~
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Taylor? ,, '\ ~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I just wanted to, agai ~
compliment Growth Management and the flood folks fo t they're
doing on Goodlette. It really, really is looking very~,,..., ..... _ Hard
job, a lot of changes, but --getting compliments fr
So, thank you.
And on a very personal experience with n 1g bors.
Commissioner Solis, maybe you know ab 1 this, because it has to do
with mental health. There's some li w · -on't know if it's state
law or national law that basically ....... rt.-., when someone has some
mental challenges, is incarcerated -for that, maybe trespassing or
disturbing the peace, they can' eld any more than eight days, and
then they're allowed to b~IPw ain. And it's something that I think
that maybe you and your mittee could look at, because I know I
spoke --actually, we el ated it to the state attorney. It's a local
issue that happe . And --
CO MM O R SOLIS: Can I understand the facts a little
better? ctly happened? They were --someone was
assing?
"'~.,, ........ SSIONER TAYLOR: For disturbing the peace, let's
way. It was something that didn't involve violence or
an .. .....__.u,..__._g like that. Trespassing. But they could only hold
past --eight days. They couldn't hold it any longer than that.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: And it was eight days, not 72
hours. I mean, the Baker Act --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: No. It was --there's an
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eight-day rule. It wasn't Baker Acted. It was an eight-day rule.
Anyway, I'm going to turn it over to your capable hands.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I'll look into that. I hadn't heard
of that. You know, most of the times --the way people with mental
health issues end up in the jail is because they get trespassed or ~
they --you know, disorderly conduct or something like that,~
I'll take a look. ~ ..,
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Tayl ~,(e,thing
else? ~
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: That's it. T~,--
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: That's it. ~
Commissioner Solis, do you have anythin~ ror e good of the
order?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I "l/ to commend Nick and
Sean and the County Manager on e negotiations. That was a
really --a job well done, and I thi at's going to work out for
everyone's benefit. -~
And also we had a -~a --a public hearing today on a
matter that went through -----~ lanning Commission where the
Planning Commission ¥d recommended denial with --because of
certain issues, a he developer came back and said, we'll do all
those, right? ea , that's how it came to us. It didn't go back to
the Planni mission, but they agreed to address everything that
mmission wanted and that the denial was based upon.
~IIIW"•-'U'w, that --that, I think, is an indication that this process
o s, right? I mean, it ended up containing the things that the
...,.._,.Y·'.L.Lg Commission wanted.
So, I just --I thought that was a great result for the county
because that's the way the process is supposed to work, and that
zoning petition ended up satisfying everything that the Planning
Commission wanted. And I think --I just wanted to point that out
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that that was a --I think that's the way the process is supposed to
work, and it's a good process.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: You were talking about the
Orange Blossom?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yeah. ~
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That one there, yes. ~~
did --by the way, I did speak to the president of that home ~rs
association over the lunch break. I'm going to meet wi e --just
to let you know --and I'm going to meet with her an lldllfll~~ le to come
back, so ...
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS:
COMMISSIONER FIALA:
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS:
All right.
I haven
All
but I'll ask, Ms. Kinzel, do you hav~ a
'""~~s 1oner Fiala?
o say.
ave a couple things,
MS. KINZEL: No. Thank
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS:
e;~
, Mr. Klatzkow, I assume you
don't have anything .
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN SA RS: I've got a couple quick things.
Mr. Ochs, the vete)RnS facility off of Pine Ridge Road, they
had --they've h ome COVID-related expenses, and I think they're
going to be ...... ~_._ ... ...,ng me application. I don't know if anybody's
reached o t to m. J.B. Holmes, I think, is the gentleman that's
spear at. So, if you could just make a note to check on
tha
OCHS: Yes, sir.
AIRMAN SAUNDERS: And then, as you know, we've
continued the Golden Gate Golf Course. The negotiations haven't
been quite as smooth on that issue as they've been with Uline. We
all know that the ClubCorp came back and asked the county to put
$7 million into the golf course. That's a nonstarter, obviously. And
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staff is going back to talk to them to see if there's some way to
resolve or save that project. But I wanted everybody to know that
we're trying to --trying to get something going that makes some
sense . That particular one did not make any sense, but they'll be
coming back with something in two weeks or at the next meetin~.
All right. 'l:1 y
Commissioner McDaniel. 4
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah. Just on t bject
matter, I was --I was a little --I certainly understood the item
got continued because of the nonstarter. But I w ~~dering if
maybe --we could maybe at least have a disc io ecause one of
my suggestions was to reach back out to the fo s at irst Tee, give
consideration --because the negotiations taJf ing considerably
longer than any ofus ever contemplj t , ee if maybe there's a
way we could at least --because a that we've gone into an
agreement with the Schulze F oun t for the housing and such, but
maybe an interim municipal c ..... ...,..,.., even of nine holes could be
accommodated there an Jilliil_ .. "':_._..'w_,:+~ the First Tee.
I was going to make suggestion today, especially with the
advent of this new requr t rom BigShots that we at least give
consideration to t interimly until --
CHAI N UNDERS: I'm going to suggest that we don't
make any han in terms of how we approach this until we see how
this ~-t-.... ~works out. I will tell you that First Tee --if this
ne ~--.....__.-~ orks out with ClubCorp and we have the 12-hole golf
re, First Tee will have priorities and will have meeting
"-"'.,...,"7,, and they're going to be well taken care of in that.
So, let's see how it all plays out. We'll know in a couple weeks.
If it doesn't work, then at that point we start over.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. Perfect.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. I don't have anything
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else. If there's nothing else, thank you, and we are adjourned.
*****
**** Commissioner Fiala moved, seconded by Commissioner
McDaniels and carried that the following items under the Co
and Summary Agendas be approved and/ or adopted * * * *
Item#16Al ~
0
RECORDING THE MINOR FINAL PLAT ~...._----ATE
COMMERCE PARK PHASE THREE REPL . 3,
APPLICATION NUMBER PL20200012 -LOCATED IN
SECTION 35 TOWNSHIP 49 SOUT GE 26 EAST
Item #16A2
RECORDING THE MI '""'---' .. ...._ AL PLAT OF TOLLGATE
COMMERCIAL CENTE ~PLAT, APPLICATION NUMBER
PL20200001173 -LO C)\T DIN SECTION 35, TOWNSHIP 49
SOUTH,RAN~~EAST
~;~
Item#16 ......_~
PTANCE AND ACCEPT THE CONVEYANCE OF
ABLE WATER AND SEWER UTILITY FACILITIES
LES OF COLLIER PRESERVE PHASE 9A,
PL2 190000876 AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY MANAGER,
OR HIS DESIGNEE, TO RELEASE THE FINAL OBLIGATION
BOND IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,000 TO THE PROJECT
ENGINEER OR THE DEVELOPER'S DESIGNATED AGENT-
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STAFF CONDUCTED A FINAL INSPECTION ON AUAUST 18,
2020 AND FOUND THE FACILITIES TO BE SATISFACTORY
AND ACCEPTABLE
Item #16A4
FINAL ACCEPTANCE AND ACCEPT THE CONVEY A
THE POTABLE WATER AND SEWER UTILITY F Ai\
FOR ISLES OF COLLIER PRESERVE PHASE l0F ~
PL20190000771 AND AUTHORIZE THE CO ANAGER,
OR HIS DESIGNEE, TO RELEASE THE FI ~~~~ EIGATION
BOND IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,000 TO T JECT
ENGINEER OR THE DEVELOPER'S D IG ATED AGENT-
STAFF CONDUCTED A FINAL I~S NON AUAUST 18,
2020 AND FOUND THE FACIL ~~ 0 BE SATISFACTORY
AND ACCEPTABLE
Item#16A5 ~~
FINAL ACCEPTANC ~AND ACCEPT THE CONVEYANCE OF
THE POT ABL ATER AND SEWER UTILITY FACILITIES
FOR ISLES C LIER PRESERVE PHASE 12A,
PL201900 12 ND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY MANAGER,
OR HIS D EE, TO RELEASE THE FINAL OBLIGATION
BO ~_,, E AMOUNT OF $4,000 TO THE PROJECT
E·'~ R OR THE DEVELOPER'S DESIGNATED AGENT-
S CONDUCTED A FINAL INSPECTION ON AUAUST 18,
202 AND FOUND THE FACILITIES TO BE SATISFACTORY
AND ACCEPTABLE
Item #16A6
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FINAL ACCEPTANCE AND ACCEPT THE CONVEYANCE OF
THE POT ABLE WATER AND SEWER UTILITY FACILITIES
FOR ISLES OF COLLIER PRESERVE PHASE 12B,
PL20190001310 AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY MANAGER,
OR HIS DESIGNEE, TO RELEASE THE FINAL OBLIGATI
BOND IN THE AMOUNT OF $4,000 TO THE PROJECT ""
ENGINEER OR THE DEVELOPER'S DESIGNATED A l,r-
STAFF CONDUCTED A FINAL INSPECTION ON A
2020 AND FOUND THE FACILITIES TO BE SAT ............ -~
AND ACCEPTABLE
Item #16A7
FINAL ACCEPTANCE OF THE P ~ ATER AND
SEWER UTILITY FACILITIES PLES HERITAGE
CLUBHOUSE, [PL20200001499 -AFF CONDUCTED A
FINAL INSPECTION ON A T 25, 2020 AND FOUND THE
FACILITIES TO BES ORY AND ACCEPTABLE
Item #16A8
FINAL ACC A E OF THE POTABLE WATER UTILITY
F ACILITI S ACCEPT THE CONVEYANCE OF A
PORTION HE POTABLE WATER UTILITY FACILITIES
FOR ~NDERBIL T CC GOLF MAINTENANCE --I MENTS, [PL20200001266] -STAFF CONDUCTED A
F INSPECTION ON AUGUST 20, 2020 AND FOUND THE
FA ILITIES TO BE SATISFACTORY AND ACCEPTABLE
Item #16A9
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RESOLUTION 2020-176: A RESOLUTION FOR FINAL
ACCEPTANCE OF THE PRIVATE ROADWAY AND
DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, AND ACCEPTANCE OF THE
PLAT DEDICATIONS, FOR THE FINAL PLAT OF WINDING
CYPRESS PHASE 2C, APPLICATION NUMBER PL201500
AND AUTHORIZE THE RELEASE OF THE MAINTENA ~
SECURITY
Item #16A10
RESOLUTION 2020-177: A RESOLUTION J\.L
ACCEPTANCEOFTHEPRIVATEROAD I<. D
DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, AND CE TANCE OF THE
PLAT DEDICATIONS, FOR THE f AT OF HADLEY
PLACE WEST, APPLICATION ._.......,.L.JR PL20160002629; AND
AUTHORIZE THE RELEASE O MAINTENANCE
SECURITY (Z;,c;;;-
~ Item #16Al 1
THE FISCAL Y
PLAN OFT
FLORID W
✓
R 2020/2021 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
I YPRESS BASIN, A PART OF THE SOUTH
R MANAGEMENT DISTRICT SFWMD
INVITATION TO BID ("ITB") NO. 20-7740
RMW ATER DEBRIS COLLECTOR UNIT CLEANING
SERVICES" TO SHENANDOAH GENERAL CONSTRUCTION,
LLC., AS THE PRIMARY VENDOR, AND EARTH VIEW, LLC.,
AS THE SECONDARY VENDOR, AND AUTHORIZE THE
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CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE ATTACHED AGREEMENTS
Item #16A13
AWARD INVITATION TO BID ("ITB") NO. 20-7781 "MO
SERVICES" TO PRIMARY, SECONDARY, AND TERTIA
VENDORS, AND AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN TO S
ATTACHED AGREEMENTS ~o
Item #16A14 <:)~
THE SALE OF SHELL MATERIAL PERTA I~~TO
INVITATION TO BID ("ITB") NO. 19-7 5-S -SALE OF
SURPLUS MATERIAL -SHELL/Q R.~.£3A '-J -__, . .i.J POILS FROM
BEACH RENOURISHMENT/D ................. .__.. OPERATIONS TO
EARTH TECH ENTERPRISES I ., IN THE BID AMOUNT
$1.00/CY FOR THE MATER LUS $2.25/CY FLORIDA
DEPARTMENT OF EN ENTAL PROTECTION (FDEP)
SEVERANCE FEE, FOR TOTAL BID OF $3.25/CY, OR A
TOTAL AMOUNT (B ~SE ON 4,000 CY) OF $13,000, AS PER
THE TERMS A CONDITIONS OF THE ITB -FROM THE
COLLIER C~ 951 BARGE SITE LOCATION
Item #16A
OF TWO CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS, WITH AN
ED VALUE OF $744,400 FOR PAYMENT OF $450 IN
TH CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION TITLED, BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS V. CRAIG MORRIS, RELATED TO
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5845 PAINTED LEAF LANE,
COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA-FOR VIOLATIONS
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CONSISTING OF A DWELLING WITH A MISSING ROOF,
WINDOWS, DOORS AND DAMAGED INTERIOR AND
EXTERIOR WALLS AND ALSO THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN
UNPERMITTED GARAGE/CARPORT WHICH WERE ALL
BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE BY THE CURRENT oWNk
Item #16A16
CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE A WORK ORDER WI
ENGINEERING, INC., TO PROVIDE PROFESS
SURVEYING SERVICES FOR NAPLES B ~~_._
o/ c,4.
AYLOR
L
RENOURISHMENT FROM JUST SOUTH O TORS PASS
TO FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENV O ENTAL
PROTECTION (FDEP) REFEREN~ MENT R-60 UNDER
CONTRACTNO.18-7432-CZF AND MATERIAL NOT
TO EXCEED $70,844 AND MA FINDING THAT THIS
ITEM PROMOTES TOURI ~
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RESOLUTION 0-178: A TRANSPORTATION POST PROJECT
MAINTENA E REEMENT BETWEEN THE FLORIDA
DEPART E F TRANSPORTATION (F.D.O.T.) AND
COLLIER TY FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE
REA ~w-.L.J COCOHATCHEE CANAL AND AUTHORIZE THE
C AN TO SIGN THE RESOLUTION AND EXECUTE THE
A MENT
Item #16A18
AN AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF A ROAD RIGHT-
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OF-WAY, DRAINAGE AND UTILITY EASEMENT (PARCEL
11 0RDUE) REQUIRED FOR CONSTRUCTION OF ROADWAY
AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE WHIPPOORWILL
LANE AND MARBELLA LAKES DRIVE CONNECTION
(PROJECT NO. 60219) -LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF ~
WHIPPOORWILL LANE AND NIGHTHAWK DRIVE 4 rt)
Item #16A19 ~o
RESOLUTION 2020-179: AMEND EXHIBIT" "
RESOLUTION NO. 2013-239, AS AMEND-----..--_ IST OF
SPEED LIMITS ON COUNTY MAINTAINE OADS, TO
REVISE SCRIVENERS' ERRORS THA FOUND ON THE
LIST
Item #16A20
AW ARD AN AGREEM _.____,, INVITATION TO BID ("ITB")
NO. 20-7742, "PAN TIL OM ("PTZ") CAMERAS," TO
CONTROL TECHNOIJ)G ES, INC., AND TO ACKNOWLEDGE
A TIME EXTE ON TO A LOCAL AGENCY PROGRAM
AGREEME I THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSP R ION (F.D.O.T.) FOR EQUIPMENT PURCHASES
OF ARTE MONITORING CAMERAS (FPN #433180-1-98-
01
RESOLUTION 2020-180: A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE
CONVEYANCE OF AP ARCEL OF LAND (PARCEL 358FDOT)
SITUATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF SR 951 AT ITS
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INTERSECTION WITH MANATEE ROAD TO THE STATE OF
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
Item #16A22
A FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION (F.l~I ~
BEAUTIFICATION GRANT, LANDSCAPE MAINTEN~
MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT WITH F.D.O.T. HICH
COLLIER COUNTY WILL BE REIMBURSED UP 103,522
FOR MEDIAN IRRIGATION AND LANDSCAP
IMPROVEMENTS TO EXISTING LANDS
US 41 NORTH (STATE ROAD 45/STATE R A 0, GULF
PARK DRIVE TO VANDERBILT BEA R AD), AUTHORIZE
THE CHAIRMAN TO SIGN AND j, THE AGREEMENT,
AUTHORIZE THE NECESSAR ET AMENDMENTS
AND ALLOW PROJECT ACTIV
Item#16A23 -0~
A FLORIDA DEPART)A~T OF TRANSPORTATION (F.D.O.T.)
BEAUTIFICAT GRANT, LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE
MEMORAN AGREEMENT WITH F.D.O.T. IN WHICH
COLLIE CO TY WILL BE REIMBURSED UP TO $78,631
FOR MED RRIGATION AND LANDSCAPING
IMP ~.r ENTS TO EXISTING LANDSCAPED MEDIANS ON
U RTH (STATE ROAD 45/STATE ROAD 90, PINE RIDGE
R'-J --..~ TO GULF PARK DRIVE), AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRMAN
TO IGN AND EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT, AUTHORIZE
THE NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND ALLOW
PROJECT ACTIVITY
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Item #16A24
MODIFICATION TO SUBGRANT AGREEMENT NO. H0309
WITH THE FLORIDA DIVISION OF EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT TO EXTEND THE AGREEMENT TO
OCTOBER 31, 2021, FOR THE SOLANA ROAD DRAINA
PROJECT #60102
Item #16A25
A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO RECOGNI-----..__-
FORW ARD FOR PROJECTS WITHIN THE SPORTATION
SUPPORTED GAS TAX FUND (313) A T NSPORTATION
& CDES CAPITAL FUND (310) Iij" OUNT OF
$342,428.66 (PROJECTS #60066, , #60088, #69333,
#693363 AND #69338
Item #16A26-Continue ctober 27, 2020 BCC Meeting
(Per Ag err Change Sheet)
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RECOMMEND ION TO ACCEPT THE SUB-AW ARD AND
GRANT AG T WITH THE FLORIDA DIVISION OF
EMERGE C ANAGEMENT (FDEM) FOR FUNDING IN THE
AMOUNT 60,000 UNDER THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY
MA ,.~....,.. ENT AGENCY (FEMA) HAZARD MITIGATION
G ROGRAM FOR THE DESIGN OF THE BIG CYPRESS
G AND COUNTRY CLUB DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS
AN AUTHORIZE NECESSARY BUDGET AMENDMENTS
Item #16A27
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THE SELECTION COMMITTEE'S RANKING AND AUTHORIZE
STAFF TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS WITH
CAPITAL CONSUL TING SOLUTIONS, LLC, FOR REQUEST
FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES ("RPS") NO. 20-7795R,
DESIGN CRITERIA FOR TIGER IX GRANT PROJECT, ~
(IMMOKALEE COMPLETE STREETS) 4'b
Item #16Bl ~o
AW ARD INVITATION TO BID ("ITB") NO. 20
BAYSHORE CRA COMMUNITY PARKIN CATED AT
COCO A VE & BA YSHORE DRIVE, TO FO NSTRUCTION
GROUP OF NAPLES, INC., FOR A TO L ONTRACT
AMOUNT OF $472,772.25, AND 1}U ZE THE CHAIRMAN
TO SIGN THE ATTACHED AG T
Item #16Cl
AWARD INVITATION BID ("ITB") NO. 20-7744, "PEST
CONTROL -COUNT F CILITIES," TO HULETT
ENVIRONME L SERVICES, INC., AND AUTHORIZE THE
CHAIRMA~S N THE ATTACHED AGREEMENT
Item #16C
MENT TO LEE COUNTY ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE,
OR INSTALLATION OF ELECTRIC FACILITIES TO
SER ICE THE MULTI-PURPOSE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY
ON COUNTY-OWNED PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE
TOWN OF A VE MARIA -WHICH WILL HOUSE THE
IMMOKALEE FIRE STATION #32, SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND
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COUNTY EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES
Item #16C3
THE EASEMENT AGREEMENT WITH 1196 PARKWAY, L
FLORIDA LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY, AT A COST
TO EXCEED $1,300 FOR THE ACQUISITION OF A UT_._~
EASEMENT FOR PROPOSED WATER AND WAST
INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, (PROJE '------
70046 -P.S. 308.08 IN BASIN 305
Item #16C4
AW ARD EBL PARTNERS LLC, ~ REEMENT #19-
7525, IN THE AMOUNT OF $49 ~ ON A PURCHASE
ORDER TO PROVIDE THE LA , MATERIAL AND
EQUIPMENT TO MODIFY XISTING ELECTRICAL
SWITCHGEAR IN TH ~CTRIC ROOM, SO, THAT A TRI
STAR DOCKING STAT CAN BE INSTALLED THAT WILL
ENABLE THE Jl -J2 IL FACILITIES TO BE CONNECTED TO
A PORTABLE NERATORAS BACKUP IN THE EVENT OF
ANEMERG~
Item #16C
TION 2020-181: A UTILITY WORK AGREEMENT
THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
FO THE RELOCATION OF EXISTING COLLIER COUNTY
WATER-SEWER DISTRICT ("CCWSD") UTILITIES PRIOR TO
CONSTRUCTION OF FOOT'S INTERSTATE 75 (1-75) AT
STATE ROAD 951 (SR 951), INTERCHANGE PROJECT, ALONG
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WITH THE ATTACHED RESOLUTION MEMORIALIZING THE
BOARD'S APPROVAL AND AUTHORIZING THE CHAIRMAN
TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT
Item #16Dl
THE FY20-21 CONTRACT WITH THE STATE OF FLO
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH FOR THE OPERATIO THE
COLLIER COUNTY HEAL TH DEPARTMENT IN -,.~{'.-AMOUNT
OF $1,491,500 -EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1, 202 OUGH
SEPTEMBER 30 2021
Item #16D2
SUBMITTAL OF A CONVERSI
THE LAND AND WATER CON '-""'L.../_D .....
SE APPLICATION TO
TION FUND STATE
ASSISTANCE PROGRAM P T TO BUILDING A
MBASPARK COMMUNITY CENTE
Item #16D3
THE CH
ADMINI
co
----~N SIGN THE FY20-21 FEDERAL TRANSIT
ON (FTA) SECTION 5310 GRANT AWARD
R THE COLLIER AREA TRANSIT (CAT) SY _-,.o,:"'I __
... ~~-'-. D THE TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED
M IN THE AMOUNT OF $517,656, AUTHORIZE THE
SARY BUDGET AMENDMENT, AND AUTHORIZE THE
CO TY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE TO EXECUTE ANY AND
ALL DOCUMENTS NECESSARY TO RECEIVE THE A WARD
AND EXECUTE ALL PAY REQUESTS
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Item #16D4
THE ELECTRONIC SUBMITTAL OF THE 2019/2020 FEDERAL
HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION FLEXIBLE FUNDS GRANT
AW ARD (SECTION 5307) IN THE AMOUNT OF $500,000
THE TRANSIT AW ARD MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR-~
PURCHASE OF A THIRTY-FOOT (30 FT.) FIXED-ROU
AND AUTHORIZE THE NECESSARY BUDGET A
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THE SELECTION COMMITTEE'S RANKI ~~D AUTHORIZE
STAFF TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT G TIATIONS WITH
THE A2 GROUP, INC., RELATEfl T TATION FOR
QUALIFICATION ("IFQ") NO. 2 -~crt-; "CONSTRUCTION
MANAGER AT RISK FOR SUN ~UN WATER PARK
REHABILITATION AND ~TION"
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THE "AFTER--FACT" SUBMITTAL OF THE FY20-21
STATE AID L RIES GRANT AND AUTHORIZE THE
CHAIRM N SIGN THE GRANT AGREEMENT #21-ST-08
REQUIRE R THE SUBMISSION OF THE GRANT
APP ~~ N TO THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF STATE,
D OF LIBRARY AND INFORMATION SERVICES FOR
F GIN THE ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $157,981 AND
AU HORIZE THE COUNTY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE TO
SIGN ALL CERTIFICATIONS
Item #16D7
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AMEND CONTRACT NO. 18-7382 -PROFESSIONAL SERVICES
AGREEMENT FOR COLLIER AREA TRANSIT FIXED ROUTE,
DEMAND RESPONSE, AND TRANSIT OPERATIONS
MANAGEMENT SERVICES WITH MV CONTRACT
TRANSPORTATION, INC., TO ALLOW FOR A TEMPORA
TRIP RATE INCREASE FOR PARATRANSIT SERVICE I ""
RESPONSE TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC -AMEND N'f #2
Item #16D8
THE FOURTH AMENDMENT TO AGREE.J..~.J.. . 19-002-WV
BETWEEN COLLIER COUNTY AND BEN T , INC., FOR
GRANT MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE D AUTHORIZE THE
CHAIRMAN TO SIGN THE AMEN
Item #16El
BUDGET AMENDME
FORWARD BUDGET I
APPROVED OPEN PlJRC
2021 ~
~;~
Item#16E ......_~
OPRIATING CARRY
E AMOUNT OF $8,235,539.88 FOR
ASE ORDERS INTO FISCAL YEAR
ION WITH SAP AS THE COUNTY'S FINANCIAL
AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO RELEASE A REQUEST
OPOSALS FOR A RE UIRED UPGRADE
Item #16E3
DONATE A SURPLUS VEHICLE TO EVERGLADES CITY AND
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AUTHORIZE THE PROCUREMENT DIRECTOR, AS DESIGNEE
FOR COUNTY MANAGER, TO SIGN FOR THE TRANSFER OF
VEHICLE TITLE
Item#16E4 ~
THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT PREPARED BY THN '1>
PROCUREMENT SERVICES DIVISION FOR DISP ~@ OF
PROPERTY AND NOTIFICATION OF REVENUE ~
DISBURSEMENT -THESE DISPOSED ASSES ~~.J.:{ . .L/
1 AV ALUE
OF $237 328.42
Item #16E5
THE ADMINISTRATIVE REPO
PROCUREMENT SERVICES DI
AND OTHER CONTRACTU
BOARD APPROVAL -
PARED BY THE
FOR CHANGE ORDERS
IFICATIONS REQUIRING
NET TOTAL OF $36 670.63
Item #16Fl ✓
CHAIRMA ~CUTE THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT
TAX G T REEMENTS FOR FY21 MARKETING &
EVENTS 00) AND NON-COUNTY OWNED/OPERATED
MU...,-~~ ($250,000) AND MAKE A FINDING THAT THESE
E ITURES PROMOTE TOURISM -FOR ARTIS-NAPLES,
G HORE OPERA, NAPLES BOTANICAL GARDEN,
GOEISANO CHILDREN'S MUSEUM OF NAPLES AND NAPLES
zoo
Item #16F2
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THE FISCAL YEAR 20-21 STRATEGIC MARKETING PLAN
FOR THE NAPLES, MARCO ISLAND, EVERGLADES
CONVENTION & VISITORS BUREAU (CVB) AND MAKE A
FINDING THAT THIS PLAN PROMOTES TOURISM '
Item #16F3 o/ c,4.
TOURIST DEVELOPMENT TAX PROMOTION F S TO
SUPPORT THE UPCOMING NOVEMBER 202 TS
TOURISM EVENTS UP TO $23,250 AND INDING
THAT THESE EXPENDITURES PROMOT ISM-FOR
THE ALLIGATOR ALLEY FALL BAS L CLASSIC,
PARADISE COAST SOFTBALL <;Oii,~~ SHOWCASE AND
THE TRUE LACROSSE WORL~ HAMPIONSHIPS
Item #16F4 e,;~
TOURIST DEVELOPM TAX PROMOTION FUNDS TO
SUPPORT THE UPCO)11NG NOVEMBER 2020 SPORTS
TOURISM EV UP TO $7,000 AND MAKE A FINDING THAT
THIS EXPE T E PROMOTE TOURISM -FOR THE
NAPLES TIONAL ___ ______;;._ _____________ _
GUISHED BUDGET PRESENTATION AW ARD FOR
FIS AL YEAR 2020 FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE
OFFICERS ASSOCIATION (GFOA) PRESENTED TO THE
OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET. TO BE ACCEPTED
BY MARK ISACKSON, DIRECTOR OF CORPORATE
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FINANCIAL PLANNING AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES
Item #16F6
RESOLUTION 2020-182: A RESOLUTION APPROVING
AMENDMENTS (APPROPRIATING GRANTS, DONATIO
CONTRIBUTIONS OR INSURANCE PROCEEDS) TO T
FISCAL YEAR 2020-21 ADOPTED BUDGET ~o
Item#l6F7 <:)~
CLARIFICATIONS TO THE CORONAVIR itE1:IEF FUND
PROGRAMS IN PREPARATION FOR E E-OPENING OF
THE COLLIER CARES COMMUijl LTH & SERVICES,
SMALL BUSINESS RELAUNC HIRE, AND
INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE PO
Item #16F8 -Continued ,, ... ..,..~ctober 27, 2020 BCC Meeting
(Per Agend ange Sheet)
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RECOMMEND ION TO APPROVE AN AGREEMENT WITH
THE UNI R COUNCIL OF COLLIER COUNTY IN
SUPPO HIEVING THE STRATEGIES OUTLINED IN
TH ~ DOPTED COLLIER COUNTY ARTS &
C .... _,...,r~,.....~'-JTRATEGIC PLAN; APPROVE A WAIVER FROM
PETITIVE PROCUREMENT PROCESS FOR THE
I DARTS COUNCIL AND MAKE A FINDING THAT THIS
EX NDITURE PROMOTES TOURISM
Item #16Gl
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OWNER DIRECTED CHANGE ORDER #4 TO AGREEMENT
NO. 18-7240, "MARCO EXECUTIVE AIRPORT NEW
TERMINAL & ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS," WITH WEST
CONSTRUCTION, INC., IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,579.49
Item #1602
ATTACHED FIRST AMENDMENT TO COLLIER C Y
AIRPORT AUTHORITY STANDARD FORM LE
AGREEMENT WITH WHOLESALE SHUTTER SOUTH
WEST FLORIDA, INC., TO EXTEND THE X RM FIVE
YEARS TO OCTOBER 31 2025
Item #16Hl
PROCLAMATION DESIGNATI
INF ANT SLEEP MONTH IN
•
CTOBER 2020 AS SAFE
LIER COUNTY. THE
PROCLAMATION WI
R.N., MATERNAL AND
FLORIDA DEPARTM N
AILED TO DANNA BREEDEN,
ILD NURSE CONSULTANT,
OF HEALTH -COLLIER COUNTY -
ADOPTED ~
~;~
Item#16 ......_~
~..._,,,.L TION DESIGNATING OCTOBER 2020 AS
~~ IC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH IN COLLIER
TY. THE PROCLAMATION WILL BE MAILED TO
LIN A OBERHAUS, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, THE
SHELTER FOR ABUSED WOMEN & CHILDREN -ADOPTED
Item #16H3 -Commissioner Taylor voted No (During Agenda
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Changes)
RESOLUTION 2020-183: A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING
INNOVATIVE PILOT PROJECTS FOR INVASIVE PLANT
CONTROL ON LAKE OKEECHOBEE AND SURROUNDIN
WATERWAYS -4rt>
~o Item #16Jl
TAX COLLECTOR REQUEST FOR ADV ANC~ .. '--"'VI,..• MISSIONS
IN ACCORDANCE WITH FLORIDA STAT~ 2.102(1) FOR
FY 2021 ~
Item #16J2 • ~ Q.o
THE STATE OF FLORIDA E91 l ~RD/E911 STATE GRANT
PROGRAM (Z;<:;;:
~ Item #16J3
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TO RECORD HE MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSI R , THE CHECK NUMBER (OR OTHER
PA YMEN HOD), AMOUNT, PA YEE, AND PURPOSE FOR
WHICH T -..~~T,FERENCED DISBURSEMENTS WERE DRAWN
FOR RIODS BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 10, 2020 AND
S ER 30, 2020 PURSUANT TO FLORIDA STATUTE
13 0
Item #16J4
THE BOARD APPROVE AND DETERMINE VALID PUBLIC
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PURPOSE FOR INVOICES PAY ABLE AND PURCHASING
CARD TRANSACTIONS AS OF OCTOBER 7, 2020
Item #16J5
THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AN
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY CO ,r.--....,
EQUITABLE SHARING AGREEMENT AND CERTI..,..--...:::"'"~
THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30 2021
Item #16Kl
RESOLUTION 2020-184: APPOINTIN
CONTRACTORS LICENSING BO.A ~
ALLEN WITH TERM EXPIRIN
MBER TO THE
POINTING TODD
30 2022
Item #16K2 e,;~
RESOLUTION 2020-lS~PPOINTING A MEMBER TO THE
HISTORIC/ ARCHAEC)L OGICAL PRESERVATION BOARD -
APPOINTING RICIA SHERRY WITH TERM EXPIRING ON
OCTOBER!~3
Item #16K
MOTION FOR STIPULATED FINAL JUDGMENT IN
MOUNT OF $11,500 FOR THE ACQUISITION OF
PA CEL 204DAME, PLUS $12,321.72 FOR ALL STATUTORY
ATTORNEY'S FEES, EXPERT FEES, AND COSTS, PLUS AN
AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,800 FOR ALL SUPPLEMENTAL
ATTORNEY'S FEES AND COSTS RELATING TO THE
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APPORTIONMENT PROCESS, IN THE LAWSUIT STYLED
COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA V. JOHN D. LAWRENCE, ET
AL., CASE NO. 11-3207-CA (OUTFALLS 3 AND 4/LASIP
PROJECT #51101)
Item #17A
ORDINANCE 2020-28: AN AMENDMENT ADOPT!
REVISIONS TO ORDINANCE NO. 2013-69, AS A
COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE COLLIER CO ~r---.~
PROCUREMENT ORDINANCE TO INCO -...--.._-
REFERENCES PERTAINING TO THE CO ' DIRECT
MA TERJALS PURCHASE COST-SA VI~ ROGRAM
Item#17B ~~
RESOLUTION 2020-186: PE N PL20200001420, TO
DISCLAIM, RENOUN .-..... .. ,, ACATE THE COUNTY AND
THE PUBLIC INTERES A PORTION OF TRACT "A" OF
TOLLGATE COMME CIAL CENTER PHASE THREE, PLAT
BOOK 22, P AG 5 OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS OF COLLIER
COUNTY, F I , KNOWN AS BUSH BOULEY ARD THE
SUBJECT RI T-OF-WAY (ROW) IS LOCATED
APPROX! LY 1600-FEET EAST OF COLLIER
BOU~~ BETWEEN TOLLHOUSE DRIVE AND 1-75 IN
S ..... -35, TOWNSHIP 49 SOUTH, RANGE 26 EAST,
C ER COUNTY FLORIDA
Item #17C
ORDINANCE 2020-29: AN ORDINANCE AMENDING
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ORDINANCE NO. 75-16, AS AMENDED, TO ESTABLISH A
ROTATION FOR SERVING AS CHAIRMAN AND VICE-
CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Item#17D ~
ORDINANCE 2020-30: AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ,4_ '7:J,,
ORDINANCE NO. 2002-09, AS PREVIOUSLY AME ~~ BY
ORDINANCE 2016-35, TO INCREASE THE AC ~;::,~~ OF THE
FLOW WAY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ICT (CDD)
PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 190.046 FLOR A UTES
Item #17E
RESOLUTION 2020-187: A RE N APPROVING
AMENDMENTS (APPROPR RRY FORWARD,
TRANSFERS AND SUPPLE.____~-~ L REVENUE) TO THE
FISCAL YEAR 20-21 UDGET
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 2:36 p.m.
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONE
BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS/EX
OFFICIO GOVERNING BOARD(
SPECIAL DISTRICTS UNDER __,,,UL./
BURT SAUNDERS, CH~
. A,4;
ATTEST ~,~T
CRYSTAL K. KINZEL, CLERK .~
"x;e;~
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These minutes oved by the Board on ________ ,
as presented ___, ______ or as corrected ____ _
T ~~.&. T PREPARED ON BEHALF OF FORT MYERS
EPORTING BY TERRI LEWIS, FPR, COURT
TER AND NOTARY PUBLIC.
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