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DSAC Minutes 01/10/2007 R January 10, 2007 MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE Naples, Florida, January 10, 2007 LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Development Services Advisory Committee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 3:30 P.M. in REGULAR SESSION in Conference Rooms #609 and #610 at the Collier County Development Services Center, Naples, Florida, with the following members present: CHAIRMAN: Clay Brooker Charles Abbott J ames Boughton David Bryant Dalas Disney David Dunnavant (excused) Marco Espinar (absent) Blair Foley (excused) George Hermanson (absent) Reed Jarvi Brian Jones ( absent) Thomas Masters Robert Mulhere Fred Reischl William Varian Joe Schmitt, Administrator, CDES Marlene Stewart, Staff Liaison, CDES Don Scott, Transportation Trinity Caudill-Scott, Transportation Nick Casalanguida, Transportation Phil Gramatges, Public Utilities Jim Seabasty, Permitting Supervisor STAFF PRESENT: January 10,2007 I. Call to Order Chairman Clay Brooker called the meeting to order at 3:45 P.M. A quorum was not present. In the interim, item IV. Staff Announcements were heard. Items II, III and IV A. were taken up after Item IV. at which time a quorum was present. (Mr. Bryant arrived at 3:52 PM, Mr. Masters arrived at 3:54 PM) II. Approval of Agenda ADD: Under New Business - a. Discussion of Annual Report vs. Four year Review b. Viability and value ofDSAC Fred Reichl moved to approve the agenda, as amended. Second by David Bryant and carried unanimously 9-0 III. Approval of Minutes from December 6, 2006 Correction: Page I - change James Broughton to James Boughton Bill Varian moved to approve the minutes of December 6, 2006 with the amended change. Second by Thomas Masters and carried unanimously 9-0. IV. Staff Announcements: A. Community Development & Environmental Services Update - Joe Schmitt (Mr. Schmitt's report follows IV. Item C.) B. Transportation Division Update Don Scott mentioned two upcoming meetings before the BCC that are of interest to DSAC Members: AUIR special meeting is scheduled for Jan. 24. EAR-based GMP Amendments meeting will be on Jan. 25 and 26. He stated that both the Planning & Productivity Committees have heard the AUIR. The discussion will revolve around where they are short after calculations on ongoing projects are factored and where they will be going from there He also gave a brief update on the impact fees. He mentioned that the State Legislature is looking at a real estate transfer tax and also capping impact fees in a range of $3 a square foot. This is less than Collier County is already getting. Dalas Disney brought up the real concern of escalating costs creating escalating impact fees, creating escalating costs, in a vicious cycle Bob Mulhere commented that the cost of some materials, such as steel and concrete is rumored to be decreasing. This may be something to note at the January meetings with BCC. Reed Jarvi offered suggestions of cutting costs in small ways that can add up to large savmgs. Committee Member's comments were noted for the record. 2 January 10,2007 C. Public Utilities Update-Roy Anderson Phil Gramatges appeared for Mr. Anderson. He then reported that the draft report of Fire Flow Study that was commissioned to study the discrepancy between the County Fire Ordinance and the County Utility Ordinance is being reviewed and copies will be available at the next meeting. The study is about the costs and the pros and cons involved with increasing the pressure to being able to meet the 55 psi in the Fire Ordinance. To meet this 55 psi would require increasing pressure in all high service pumps. This cost was estimated to be $12,144,000, plus operating costs for the next 20 years. Also affected would be the level of service which, in turn, affects the AUIR and the Master Plan plus the failure of older pipes from the extra pressure. The options available are: 1. to increase the size of the pipes to reduce pressure 2. to increase the pressure at discharge at service pumps The second option would be less expensive than digging up all the pumps. Discussion revolved around: . Concerns that occupancy could be denied for lack of adequate pressure. . State Fire law minimum requirement of only 20psi and Collier County Utility minimum requirement of 40psi. . Prohibitive costs involved in implementing County Fire Ordinance of 55 psi. Joe Schmitt informed the Committee Members that the County Manager has given direction to Staff to go before the Board at the January 23rd BCC meeting to request that the Local Ordinance to the Fire Code be rescinded. The Amendment has been prepared asking the Board to repeal that Ordinance and to have it go through the State Fire Officials to have a State-approved Ordinance, before it comes back to Collier County. Mr. Schmitt stated that there is an inter-local agreement between the Board of County Commissioners and all the independent Fire Districts for design review and inspection. Interested DSAC Members were advised to attend this meeting on January 23rd to express their views and concerns. Charles Abbott arrived at 4:25 PM. Plans are in progress for a joint meeting with the Board of County Commissioners and the East Naples Fire Commission on the major impact of the local Ordinance. Members will be notified of the date of the meeting. Their presence and input was encouraged. Committee Members asked Mr. Schmitt to include in the Executive Summary, the fiscal impact caused by the study and the expense of such things as installation of unnecessary sprinklers in open public parking garages. A. Joe Schmitt continued with his Staff report, stating that the backlog is finally caught up and the process is moving along on a sustainable level. They are working on zoning actions coming up with home rule. DSAC will be kept informed as this topic unfolds. The main item shared with the Committee is the ongoing debate on the phased permit incidences, where stop-work orders were issued without proper authority. Resolution of the conflict between Fire and Building Code Officials will most likely end up before the Board of Adjustment of Appeals to make a determination of local ruling as to phased permits being allowable. Phased permits have been halted until issues are resolved. Foundation permits 3 January 10, 2007 will still be issued. A response to the letter from the North Naples Fire District's attorney has been sent out and Mr. Schmitt will provide copies of the both the letter and the response to all DSAC Members bye-mail. He will also e-mail copies of the Executive Summary going to the BCC to revoke the Local Ordinance. D. Fire Review-Ed Riley - Mr. Riley was not present. Copies of the Summary of Plan Review Activity and Time Frame Summary for November 2006 were provided. V. Old Business A. Ed Riley - Progress to resolve inconsistency (Fire water pressure level/County provision of pressure level) Mr. Riley was not present. This item was postponed until next meeting. B. Nick Casalanguida (Transportation Division) Presenting Final Draft of Transportation GMP amendments (Handout) Mr. Casalanguida reviewed the proposed changes and answered questions raised at the last DSAC meeting about proposed Policy 3.5, 3.6, 3.7 and 3.8 ofthe final Draft of the Transportation GMP Amendment. He stated this proposal is modeled after Pasco County's Thoroughfare Corridor Protection Plan. He reviewed each section and requested DSAC support for the Ordinance Amendment. Many questions and much discussion ensued about the language and possible ramifications in each of these Policy sections. Fred Reischl moved that the DSA C's recommendation be to not move forward with this GMP Amendment. Second by David Bryant. The motion carried 6-4. Tom Masters, Reed Jarvi, Bob Mulhere and Clay Brooker voted against. More discussion followed about voting on each Policy point separately, rather than as a whole. Chairman Brooker asked if those who voted for the recommendation to not move forward with the Amendment wanted to reconsider the vote to vote on each separate section. Mr. Reischl then moved to reconsider his original motion. Without a second the motion was not considered. The original motion to not move forward stands approved. Mr. Boughton, Mr. Bryant and Mr. Varian left at 5:25 PM VI. New Business A. Jim Seabasty (Permitting Supervisor - Update on Electronic Application Submittal Mr. Seabasty provided information on the proposed Auto Disc software (one of the top CAD programs) that is being looked into for implementation in the Permitting Department. He explained how the system would work and how the internet aspects of the program will benefit DSAC members in the whole submittal process. He is keeping DSAC informed. The Members were interested mostly in . Safety of plans and design copyrights on the internet 4 January 10, 2007 . Process of controls to safeguard against abuse . Problems with seals . Information on other counties who use this system These are all the areas that will be looked at before anything is put in place according to Mr. Seabasty. DSAC will be informed as research progresses. Tom Masters left at 5:38 PM B. Discussion of 4 year Review and Annual Report. Chairman Clay Brooker read the requirements for the 4-year Review and the Members offered information to be covered. Marlene Stewart will assist in obtaining any historical information needed. The Annual Report will be given to the BCC by the Chairman on the activities and positions of DSAC over the past year. C. Discussion of Viability of DSAC This item was moved to next month's Agenda to allow sufficient time for discussion. The election of a new Chairman will be added to next month's agenda VII. Subcommittee Reports A. Land Development Regulation Fred Reischl reported that this Subcommittee did not meet this month. VIII. Committee Member Comments A brief discussion was held amongst the Members regarding DSAC's positions not being fully represented to the Board of County Commissioners. A reminder was given of the joint meeting of DSAC, Productivity Committee and Affordable Housing Commission on Monday, January 29 from 9AM-12 Noon at North Collier Regional Park Exhibit Hall, 16100 Livingston Rd. to review a presentation of the proposed Linkage Fee ordinance and to provide input to County Staff. This is a publicly advertised meeting and open to the public. IX. Next Meeting Date- February 7, 2007 at 3:30 PM (Room 610). There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned by the order of the Chair at 5:53 PM. DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE Chairman, Clay Brooker 5