EAC Minutes 10/04/2006 R
October 4, 2006
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
Naples, Florida, October 4, 2006
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Environmental
Advisory Council in and for the County of Collier, having conducted
business herein, met on this date at 9:00 a.m. in REGULAR SESSION in
Building "F" of the Government Complex, Naples, Florida, with the
following members present:
CHAIRMAN: William Hughes
Terrence Dolan (excused)
J ames Harcourt
William Hill (excused)
Lee Horn
Judith Hushon
Irv Kraut (excused)
Nick Penniman
Michael Sorrell
ALSO PRESENT: Stan Chrzanowski, Planning Review
Marjorie Student-Stirling, Assistant County Attorney
Susan Mason, Senior Environmental Specialist
Bill Lorenz, Director of Environmental Services
Barbara Burgeson, Sr. Environmental Specialist
Jeff Wright, Assistant County Attorney
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ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
AGENDA
October 4, 2006
9:00 A.M.
Commission Boardroom
W. Harmon Turner Building (Building "F'1- Third Floor
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Approval of Agenda
IV. Approval of September 6,2006 Meeting minutes
V. Upcoming Environmental Advisory Council Absences
VI. Land Use Petitions
A. Rezone No. RZ-2005-AR-7271
"Public Facilities Rezone"
Section 10, Township 51 South, Range 26 East
B. PUDA-2005-AR-7818
"Pine View"
Section 18, Township 49S, Range 26E
VII. Old Business
A. Update members on projects
B. GMP discussion of EAR-based GMP amendments (CCME only) (Will be mailed in
separate mailing once complete.)
VIII. New Business
A. Chairperson and Vice-Chairperson election
IX Subcommittee Reports
X. Council Member Comments
XI. Public Comments
XII. Adjournment
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Council Members: Please notify the Environmental Services DeDartment no later than 5:00
a.m. on SeDtember 29, 2006 if YOU cannot attend this meetinG or if YOU have a conflict a~d
will abstain from votinG on a oetition (213-2987).
General Public: Any person who decides to appeal a decision of this Board will need a record of the
proceedings pertaining thereto; and therefore may need to ensure that a verbatim record of proceedings
is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.
October 4, 2006
I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chairman William Hughes at 9:05 a.m.
II. Roll Call
A quorum was established.
III. Approval of Agenda
Mr. Penniman moved to approve the agenda. Second by Mr. Sorrell.
Carries unanimously 5-0.
IV. Approval of September 6, 2006 Meeting minutes
Changes:
Page #3 LDC Section: 3.05.07. H.1.d. Dr. Hushon would like for her
comment to say "storm water in preserves" instead of "small projects".
Page #4 under the comment by Bruce Layman it should have been
"areas" not "area" and under the comment by Doug Lewis it should have
been "rigid" note "ridged".
Dr. Hushon moved to approve the September 6, 2006 minutes with changes.
Second by Mr. Penniman. Carries unanimously 6-0.
v. Upcoming Environmental Advisory Council Absences
Dr. Hushon will be out for the meetings in December and January.
Susan Mason announced that the November 1 sl meeting will be at 2800 North
Horseshoe Drive.
VI. Land Use Petitions
A. Rezone No. RZ-2005-AR-7271
"Public Facilities Rezone"
Section 10, Township 51 South, Range 26 East
Presenters were sworn in.
No disclosures.
Fred Reishel gave a presentation. He noted that Collier County would
like to have this property rezoned to "Public Use" so that it is known that
it will have a government facility on it in the future. It has not been
decided what the use of the site will be. The gopher tortoises that were on
the property have been relocated. Land that is designated for
preservation was demonstrated.
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Alicia Abbott mentioned that the property is currently being used for
water storage and will potentially be used for a water treatment facility.
Open discussion ensued with the following objections expressed:
Not to have an emergency facility on land that is in a flood zone.
Gopher tortoise mortality rate is high after relocation. The person
that prepared the report is also the person managing the preserve
land for gopher tortoise relocation.
The actual use of the property is undefined. When it is defined the
project can return for review.
Susan Mason mentioned that the habitat was not suitable for gopher
tortoises.
Dr. Hushon moved to deny the petition due to lack of information and
stated comments. Second by Mr. Sorrell. Motion carries unanimously 6-
O.
B. PUDA-2005-AR-7818
"Pine View"
Section 18, Township 49S, Range 26E
Presenters were sworn in.
No disclosures.
Tim Hancock, Davidson Engineering introduced his team. The project is
located on the corner of Pine Ridge Road and Whippoorwill. He gave a
description of the area and project. There has been a transition of wet
lands over the site since 2000; which is possibly due to the surrounding
developments.
The high quality wet lands (as defined by a representative from Collier
County who has been on the site) are set to be preserved.
Stan Chrzanowski mentioned that this area up until ten years ago was
largely undeveloped. Development started all at once. The last person to
develop tends to hold all the water as a "sump" lot.
Tim Hancock added that two gopher tortoise burrows were located at the
initial survey, one was active and the other was inactive. A later survey
found both burrows abandoned with one of them flooded out.
It was suggested for the developer to utilize a semi permeable surface
which will assist in protecting the lot from flooding.
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Mr. Penniman moved to recommend approval ofPUDA-2005-AR-7818.
Second by Mr. Horn. Mr. Penniman amended his motion and restated it
to recommend approval of the petition with a strong urge that the
petitioner look at the use of semi pervious services as part of the project
to mitigate the situation down stream. Mr. Horn seconded again. Motion
carries unanimously 6-0.
VII. Old Business
A. Update members on projects
Susan Mason reported:
- Windstar PUD was continued to the October 10th meeting.
Keewaydin has been under dramatic redesign and has withdrawn
from their BCC hearing.
Brooks Village has changed their plan; a wall was added.
Habitat Conservation Plan Advisory Committee had a panther
presentation.
The meeting recessed at 10:27 a.m. reconvening at 10:41 a.m.
B. GMP discussion of EAR-based GMP amendments (CCME only)
Bill Lorenz reviewed the "Objections Recommendations and Comments
Report for Proposed Comprehensive Plan Amendment: 06-1ER" (see
attachment). A sub-committee was set up to address the objections which
were factored into the language suggestions.
Randy Cohen mentioned that they have tried to come up with acceptable
interim standards while meeting the DCA requirements. There needs to
be sufficient data to support the language.
Ms. Student-Stirling reiterated the essential need of data analysis to back
up the language.
Bill Lorenz addressed questions on the Total Maximum Daily Loads to
establish the South Florida Water District Basin rule.
Public Speakers:
Nicole Ryan, Conservancy of South West Florida would like a change in
the language "all development projects shall meet 'the' 150%" under line
item 'a' to read "all development projects shall meet 150%". She would
also like to see the words "flow way" switched to "slew" since "flow way"
can also denote a man made drainage ditch. She suggested that the
County could later incorporate Best Management Practices into the Land
Development Code.
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Council Members had an open discussion on potential changes. The
following recommendations were made:
Change the language to "Until the water shed management plans are
completed, the County shall develop and apply Best Management
Practices for all new development and redevelopment projects
including but not limited to the following as interim standards for
developmen t:"
(James Harcourt left the meeting at 11: 18 a.m.)
Title the figure.
It was suggested by the staff to limit the restrictions to non-single family
homes and not define just "new development" while Robert Wiley
suggested applying the restrictions to single family homes.
Bill Lorenz agreed to provide the new language changes to the Council.
Ms. Student-Sterling suggested a member of the Environmental Advisory
Council go to the Planning Board to raise any issues that may arise after
the language is crafted by the staff.
Mr. Lorenz reviewed in detail item #2 from the "Objections
Recommendations and Comments Report for Proposed Comprehensive
Plan Amendment: 06-1ER" (see attachment). Robert Riley gave further
details.
(Mr. Sorrell left the meeting at 11 :43 a.m. a quorum no longer existed.)
Council Members had an open discussion on potential changes. The
following recommendations were made:
Compliance with the regulations is followed through by the County
and if remediation is necessary then it is performed.
Make sure there is a certification procedure.
(Mr. Sorrell rejoined the meeting at 11 :48 a.m. again creating a quorum.)
Ray Smith, Pollution Control Department reviewed in detail item #3 from
the "Objections Recommendations and Comments Report for Proposed
Comprehensive Plan Amendment: 06-1ER" (see attachment).
(Mr. Horn left the meeting at 11 :54 a.m. a quorum no longer existed,
rejoining at 11 :56 a.m. again creating a quorum.)
Council Members had an open discussion on potential changes. The
following recommendations and issues were addressed:
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Concurrency with State issued laws that do not address the unique
issues of Southwest Florida.
Change the language to "by land use" instead of "of land uses:'
Mr. Lorenz reviewed in detail item #4 from the "Objections
Recommendations and Comments Report for Proposed Comprehensive
Plan Amendment: 06-1ER" (see attachment).
Council Members had an open discussion on potential changes. The
following recommendations and issues were addressed:
Adding a concept of very small preserve areas.
Suggested language was "When a preserve will be smaller than can
remain functional as a preserve area for flora and fauna."
Public Speakers:
Nicole Ryan the language should not be left open to interpretation. She
suggested that the language could include rarity of the habitat and the
priorities listed in the Land Development Code.
Ms. Burgeson suggested adding a line item "e" under line item "(9)" that
would say "Required preserve would be smaller than can remain
functional" and to change the language under "(9)" to read "preservation
retention requirement to be requested to be satisfied by..."
(Mr. Penniman left the meeting at 12:20 p.m. a quorum no longer
existed.)
Randy Cohen reiterated that the Environmental Advisory Councils
recommendations will be transmitted.
(Mr. Penniman rejoined the meeting at 12:22 p.m. again creating a
quorum.)
Mr. Lorenz invited those concerned to address the Planning Commission
in October.
Dr. Hushon moved to recommend these responses with the changes that
have been specifically recommended on individual items. Second by Mr.
Penniman. Motion carries unanimously 5-0.
Mr. Hughes would like a review of water quality of source wells and
distribution.
VIII. New Business
A. Chairperson and Vice-Chairperson election
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Mr. Penniman moved to reelect the current Chairman and Vice-
Chairman.
Mr. Hughes encouraged others to get involved and join.
Motion carries unanimously 5-0.
IX. Subcommittee Reports
Ms. Burgeson mentioned that the Panther Presentation is now posted on the
Habitat Conservation web site.
X. Council Member Comments
Mr. Hughes added that the November meeting will be recorded and televised
at a later date.
XI. Public Comments
None
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by the order of the Chair at 12:29 p.m.
COLLIER COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL
ADVISORY COUNCIL
Chairman William Hughes
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