Agenda 07/14/2020 Item # 2D (Minutes - June 18, 2020)07/14/2020
COLLIER COUNTY
Board of County Commissioners
Item Number: 2.D
Item Summary: June 18, 2020 - BCC Budget Workshop Meeting Minutes
Meeting Date: 07/14/2020
Prepared by:
Title: Executive Secretary to County Manager – County Manager's Office
Name: MaryJo Brock
07/02/2020 8:42 AM
Submitted by:
Title: County Manager – County Manager's Office
Name: Leo E. Ochs
07/02/2020 8:42 AM
Approved By:
Review:
County Manager's Office MaryJo Brock County Manager Review Completed 07/02/2020 11:49 AM
Board of County Commissioners MaryJo Brock Meeting Pending 07/14/2020 9:00 AM
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TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Naples, Florida, June 18, 2020
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County
Commissioners, in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as
the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board(s) of such
special districts as have been created according to law and having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00 a.m., in BUDGET
SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex, East Naples,
Florida, with the following members present:
Chairman: Burt L. Saunders
Andy Solis
William L. McDaniel, Jr.
Donna Fiala
Penny Taylor
ALSO PRESENT:
Leo Ochs, County Manager
Mark Isackson, OMB Director
Nick Casalanguida, Deputy County Manager
Jeffrey A. Klatzkow, County Attorney
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Ladies and gentlemen, the budget
workshop will please come to order.
I want to thank everybody for exercising social distancing. I
understand now they're going to replace that with physical distancing
as opposed to social. For some reason the word "social" doesn't fit.
But social distancing is what we're doing. And I appreciate people
wearing masks. I think it's the right message to send to the general
public that we should, whenever we're in public, wear a mask when
you can't social distance.
With that --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Would you like us to put ours on,
too?
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: When you're out in public, yes.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, I meant here.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I don't think it's necessary with us
being separated. I know some local governments are. I was at an
Estero council meeting yesterday, and all the council members are
wearing masks. All the staff are wearing masks.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You mean while they're talking
and everything?
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Uh-huh, yeah. It makes it even a
little harder to understand.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: But it's a good -- it's the right
message to send to the public.
With that, I'm going to ask our associate --
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Pastor.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: -- Pastor McDaniel to give us a
little invocation and then lead us in the Pledge.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'd be happy to. If you'd all
please rise. If you'd bow your heads with me, ladies and gentlemen.
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Heavenly Father, we want to thank you for the many blessings
that you bestow upon us every single day. Help us, Father, to accept
these blessings with the humbleness as we should in your grace.
Father, we ask that you continue to protect our first responders, our
nurses, our doctors, and those on the front lines that are helping the
community as we move through this pandemic.
As always, Father, keep and protect those who fight every single
day for the freedoms that we dearly cherish.
In thy holy name I pray. Amen.
MR. OCHS: Amen.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: With me, ladies and
gentlemen.
(The Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Good morning.
GENERAL OVERVIEW
MR. OCHS: Good morning, Commissioners, and welcome to
the Fiscal Year 2021 Collier County Budget Workshop.
Commissioners, today's workshop is another milestone in a
several-month-long process that leads to the adoption of your Fiscal
Year 2021 Collier County budget. Your first milestone, of course,
was your budget policy setting in March of this year. Following
today's workshop, the next milestone will be July 14th when this
board sets the maximum millage rate for Fiscal Year '21.
Following that action in August, the Tax Collector will send out
the Truth in Millage notices to the public and then, finally, in
September you will hold two statutorily required public hearings.
The final one, which will be held on September 17th, will culminate
in the adoption of your Fiscal '21 budget.
So, Commissioners, as we -- as the staff worked on developing
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these next couple of slides in the briefing, which try to give some
context to the influences that help shape the recommendations from
the staff for the Fiscal '21 budget, I have to tell you I was reminded of
years ago when my wife and I took the young kids to Universal
Studios up in Orlando. The kids loved to ride the Incredible Hulk
rollercoaster and, of course, my wife was never available, so I always
got the pleasure of going on that ride.
And as we put this together, it kind of reminded me of that
because the ride begins with a steep ascent, fairly rapid, and then it
takes a quick plunge over the cliff, and then you get into a series of
spins and turns and loops, and then at the end it kind of goes into
darkness. So you don't actually see exactly where you're going, but
you have some confidence that when the ride's over you end up on
terra firma.
So that actually reminded me of that experience as we developed
these next two slides, and I'll tell you why. Beginning of this fiscal
year, FY 2020, was an excellent beginning of the year. October
through February of Fiscal '20, I think the local economy was
actually doing very well. Unemployment levels were at record
highs. Our bellwether industries were performing very well. We
had the highest median income in the state, and our general revenues
and our tourist tax revenues were tracking well above our budget
plan.
The real estate industry was strong. It's remaining strong.
Home sales activities and pricing were good. Our median home
price has stayed in that mid $400,000 range and, frankly, our luxury
market was on pace for a record year.
New construction permitting and inspection activity was steady
in Fiscal Year '20 and on pace and on par with our prior year in 2019.
And finally, the countywide taxable values for Calendar Year 2019
increased about 5.7 percent, and countywide taxable value is now at
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the highest level that it's ever been at $98.5 billion.
So we're moving along pretty well from October to Febru ary,
and then the COVID pandemic -- the worldwide pandemic hits, and it
hits hard in the United States, and we're no exception, obviously. So
as you all know, March through May of this year we had a virtual
shutdown of the local economy. Unemployment skyrockets as
businesses are ordered to close; nonessential personnel are ordered to
stay home. It has a devastating impact on our local hospitality and
food service industries, and we're dealing now with a totally different
economy and a totally different budget scenario heading into Fiscal
Year '21.
I'll talk about a few of those influences here as they affected the
current year and what we're doing in terms of forecasts for Fiscal
Year '21.
State sales tax, which is one of the revenue sources that we rely
on to fund your General Fund, are forecasted down by $9 million in
the current fiscal year, and we have budgeted $3 million less for
Fiscal Year '21 as a result of the impacts of the COVID epidemic.
Your optional infrastructure sales tax, your one-cent sales tax,
have a forecast for year ending 9/30/20 to be $21.6 million below the
budget forecast, and those revenues are budgeted 10 percent less at
77.9 million for next year.
Your general state shared revenues were reduced recently by the
State of Florida. Those are revenues that go up to the State.
They're redistributed, sent back down to all the counties. They were
reduced by half from a million to 500,000 per month. That will
result in a yearend revenue loss of about $2 million below our
forecast.
Your tourist tax revenues for FY2020 are below the budget
forecast by $8.2 million. Fortunately, you have a very healthy
reserve and a strong cash position in your family of tourist tax funds.
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So through expenditure reductions and ability to look at cash
balances and reserves, we're able to weat her that storm.
Department revenues and charges for services in your parks and
libraries are down about $1.2 million in the current fiscal year. And
county government, generally, is expected to incur about an
additional $1 million of expenditures in the current fiscal year for
additional equipment and service related to the COVID-19 pandemic.
So that's kind of a tough look at the influences of the pandemic
short term on the current year's budget and how those project into
next year. The good news of that is is because of the way you have
positioned your budget over the years, you're able to absorb these
kinds of fairly sudden economic changes, and that's due to several of
the policies that you have set for your budget guidance each and
every year, including millage-neutral tax rates, continuing to insist on
adequate reserve levels in your budget, and to provide the
management and flexibility in the budget that you've set year over
year.
So now we're looking forward from this date through the end of
the current FY. The Governor recently issued an executive order for
Phase 2 recovery, so that allowed most employees to return to work.
Some of the travel restrictions have been loosened, additional latitude
for reopening businesses has been authorized, including retail and
restaurant and bars, entertainment, and other personal services
business. So we're beginning to see much more activity in the local
economy.
Also, billions of dollars of federal and state aid have -- in a
variety of programs have been released, and we're continuing to
monitor the effect of that on the local economy and to see how
effective those dollars are in helping to mitigate the direct impacts to
individuals and businesses in our community.
So we look, then, at the outlook for the coming fiscal year, 2021.
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And our crystal ball says that, you know, barring a huge surge in
confirmed coronavirus cases or, you know, a series of significant
natural disasters, we think that the recovery for our economy remains
positive in terms of the outlook for Fiscal Year 2021. We say that
because of a few fundamentals like the county population continues
to grow. People want to come here. They continue to come to
Collier County. We continue to grow at about a 2 percent rate each
year.
Our fundamentals are strong in our local economy. Your
county public infrastructure has been positioned through strategic
investments to accommodate economic growth, and the State of
Florida Department of Revenue who does three-year projections on
taxable values advises us that the three-year forecast for taxable
values in Collier County continues to trend upward. So, again, those
are good signs for the long-term recovery of the economy.
So with that as a context and a background, let's move into some
of the budget highlights for Fiscal Year --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Mr. Ochs, if I could ask you just a
quick question before we go to the next topic here.
MR. OCHS: Sure.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Your outlook looks fairly positive
with the assumption that there are no major disasters, and that's really
over a two-year period. That's -- or not two-year period, but two
seasons.
MR. OCHS: Right.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: That's current season and the next
hurricane season. How well are we positioned in the event that we
do have, maybe not a Hurricane Irma situation, but a significant
storm that requires sheltering some people and that sort of thing?
What are the plans for that?
MR. OCHS: Yeah. Commissioner, we're very well positioned
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both operationally and financially to dea l with those disasters. We
have, as I mentioned a minute ago, built into this budget enough
flexibility in terms of your cash balance and, more importantly, your
reserves. In your 200-plus funds in your county budget, you have
over $200 million worth of reserves that we can bring to you and you
can exercise as needed to deal with unexpected emergencies, and that
type of financial flexibility allows you to deal with those situations
and then carry us, if you will, until we can get reimbursements from
FEMA or the State. So we're prepared for those kinds of
emergencies, sir.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you.
MR. OCHS: Thank you for the question.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Are we allowed to ask -- do
you want me to hit my button?
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yeah, I think -- let's ask questions
as we go along.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: If that's okay. I know you
have a plan.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yeah. And if it gets to be a little
bit too technical, it may be questions that will be answered in the
presentation, so...
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Agreed. And that's where I
was concerned. I just didn't -- you led the way, and I had a question.
I wrote it down here.
You spoke earlier about some of the additional expenditures that
we know we're going to have when we're doing additional sanitation,
employees, management with regard to the virus and the like. Have
we had any luck and/or is there going to be information with regard
to the CARES money that is being distributed from the State, the
total amount and those requisites yet?
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. Commissioners have asked me about
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that.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yeah. We're going to bring that
up at some point here.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. Then fine.
MR. OCHS: I will add on that particular point, too,
Commissioner McDaniel, the staff has prepared a separate agenda
item for your County Commission meeting next Tuesday that deals
specifically with the recent CARES allocation from the State, and
we'll be looking for some guidance on that.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Carry on. I didn't --
MR. OCHS: Thank you.
Again, in terms of your budget highlights for Fiscal Year 2021,
your budget guidance that you issued in March has essentially been
met for both your General Fund and Unincorporated Area General
Fund budget operations. The budget is built, as directed, as under a
millage-neutral tax rate for your General Fund and your
Unincorporated Area General Fund.
County Manager's agency has no expanded service requests in
the budget with the one exception of the Board's previous action to
authorize expenditures for the opening of the new regional park out at
Big Corkscrew Island.
There are some expanded service requests from some of your
constitutional officers, and you'll hear those during their presentations
later on today.
As I mentioned a minute ago, we continue to try to build your
General Fund reserves because of all the reasons we talked about to
have that flexibility in the budget to deal with contingencies that are
unforeseen, and this budget is no different. We've continued to build
your reserves, including adding an additional five million set aside
for long-term capital reserves recognizing our important
responsibilities to keep our infrastructure investments in good
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condition.
Capital expenditures. This budget is very focused on the capital
program, and we have in excess of $52 million in new money
allocated throughout the budget for new capital expenditures, and
we'll talk about a few of those in detail in just a minute.
Debt issuance. The budget, as it's positioned today, has no new
borrowing incorporated in it, although I will tell you that, as you
know from your past experience, those types of bond issues or credit
financing come to you only when they're ready, when we have
projects that we know we've got a solid price on and we know we're
ready to execute. So I would expect -- while there's nothing
indicated in the budget today, I would expect sometime in Fiscal
Year 2021 we will be coming to you talking about borrowing some
money for some strategic land acquisitions that you've had us go out
and do some due diligence on and some other capital facilities
updates and replacements that are critical.
One that I'll note right now is our aquatic systems. We have
quite a bit of work to do in our aquatic systems countywide, and we
don't have enough cash and carry capital to get that done, and we'd
like to move that forward in Fiscal Year 2021, and I know you'll see
that probably in the first quarter of 2021.
I will note also that if, in fact, we come and ask for that ability,
the debt service funding on that is already allocated in your budget.
We would simply take the money that's available for cash and carry
capital, convert that to debt service payments, so you wouldn't have
to do an additional budget allocation to make that borrowing work.
And finally, workforce investment. There are dollars
appropriated in the FY 2021 budget for employee compensa tion
adjustment to keep pace with inflation, and I'm pleased to report,
again, for the eighth year that there's no health insurance premium
planned in the FY 2021 budget.
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Countywide taxable value, as I mentioned, in the countywide
General Fund, taxable values have increased 5.7 percent. You can
see the bar chart over time where we dip down in 2009, and then
we've had a steady comeback, and it's kind of leveled out over the
last three years. That projection continues in the State's projection
for the next few years.
In the Unincorporated Area General Fund, taxable values have
increased 6.4 percent.
Your millage rate history, you can see that this board and prior
boards since 2010 -- so we're in our 11th year of no change in the
property tax rate. That's allowed, I think, the Board the flexibility
they need to address capital and operating contingencies as they
develop. You'll see a slight increase after six years from FY '10 to
FY '16 of .7161 millage in your Unincorporated General Fund. That
bumped up in FY '17 so the Board could get after some of the median
landscape capital improvements that had not been finished following
expansion of the some of your major arterial roadways, and that
continues.
Let's take a look at some of the highlights from your general
governmental operations proposed budget for FY 2021. And as I
mentioned, the millage-neutral tax rate in the General Fund yields
$19.2 million of increased funding in the General Fund, and your
Unincorporated Area General Fund increases about $3 million as a
result of the millage-neutral levy in the Unincorporated Area General
Fund tax.
Your constitutional officers, as I mentioned, have some
expanded service requests, most notably the Sheriff, who is
requesting 10 additional deputies to support the school resource
officer program. You may recall, two years ago we talked about that
when the state mandated those allocations in each public school and
each charter school. So the Sheriff and I have been working on a
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three-year plan to get him in a position to do that on a regular basis.
The Clerk of the Courts is looking for 5.7 new FTEs, and one
FTE is requested in your Supervisor of Elections budget.
I talked about the allocation of new capital dollars, 52.4 million
in the FY '21 budget, and we'll talk about some of the specific areas
here in a moment. And, finally, your CRAs and some of your
innovation zones, we have annual transfers from both the General
Fund and the Unincorporated Area General Fund to fund up those
operations. Those continue into Fiscal Year 2021. In fact, your
total transfers out in your Fiscal Year 2021 budget out of both the
General Fund and the Unincorporated Area General Fund for your
contributions to the various CRAs and the economic innovation
zones totals $9.4 million.
Enterprise operations. Water and sewer rates have been
adjusted in the 2021 budget by 2.9 percent. That is based on a
previous board action and your budget policy.
Landfill tipping fees are programmed to increase 2.9 percent as
well, and your assessment for your mandatory solid waste residential
collection for both District 1 and District 2 is scheduled to increase
by 2 percent.
Your building permit inspection and reinspection fees reduced
by this board earlier this year. No changes in those rates are planned
for FY '21.
We talked about some of the capital program expenditures.
One of those areas that we place particular emphasis on is your
stormwater funding. This year we've increased the funding in the
capital component of the stormwater program by $2 million to an
all-in budget of $15.5 million. You recall that the Board last year
allowed us to begin to take the stormwater program to an industry
standard of maintenance and capital replacement. We are doubling
down on that with some additional allocations that would allow us to
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accelerate the Capital Improvement Program in your stormwater
system, and it's badly needed.
This is a little bit of an eye chart, but this shows you kind of the
complete list of new capital money applied to the list of projects here
on the chart. What you have here is a comparison between what was
adopted in the current year and what is recommended in Fiscal Year
2021.
I'll note a few of the highlights. The third line down, Sheriff
facilities and helicopter, we are setting money aside over time to meet
the Sheriff's request for an additional helicopter. So we have $2
million in new funding in FY '21 proposed for that. We have the
Medical Examiner renovation and expansion. The Medical
Examiner has outgrown their current footprint in their facility, and
they need some renovations and some expansion. We'll talk to you a
little bit about that in detail later. But there's two-and-a-half million
dollars in new money to get that done next year.
I mentioned down on the bottom, about four lines from the
bottom you see your Stormwater Capital Program going from
5.9 million this year to 7.9 million next year, again, to accelerate the
capital program for your stormwater system.
In terms of position counts, you can see the adopted position
counts for the current fiscal year, any changes noted in the proposed
2021 budget. None in the County Manager's agency. On the
Clerk -- excuse me. On the constitutional side you see 16.71 total
new FTE, again, allocated out between the Sheriff, the Supervisor of
Elections, and the Clerk of Courts, and they'll address those in their
budget presentations.
I mentioned the compensation adjustment recommendation.
Commissioners, we have an annual index of the changing Consumer
Price Index that we use each year looking at December to December.
Based on that index, I'm recommending a 2 percent wage adjustment
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for your workforce in FY '21 and also a set-aside of .86 percent
payroll to make what we call pay plan maintenance adjustments.
These adjustments to specific pay ranges that, through our annual
salary survey, are identified as being well below the market and puts
us at a competitive disadvantage for recruiting in those areas. So all
in, that compensation adjustment for both your General Fund,
Unincorporated General Fund, and all of your enterprise operations
totals $4.5 million.
I'm certainly willing and able to develop some options during
the summer if the Board wants to talk about that more and bring you
back some recommendations both in terms of the timing and the
amount and the method at which adjustments might be made. But I
think it's important to continue to invest in our workforce.
I mentioned the healthcare program. We're proud of the fact
that we've been able to hold the line on the premium adjustments now
for the eighth year. Jeff Walker has done a phenomenal job of
managing that program and building up the adequate reserves to
allow us the flexibility to deal with changes in healthcare costs year
over year.
Net county budget. Commissioners, net county budget
projected for Fiscal Year 2021, $1.489 billion. That represents about
a 2.87 percent increase over your Fiscal Year '20 budget.
Let's talk about the General Fund for a moment. The General
Fund recommendation for Fiscal Year 2021 totals $495 million. It's
about a 4.2 percent increase from the FY 2020 budget. This is the
pro forma, if you will, for the General Fund that shows the difference
in expenses and revenues between the '20 and '21 budget. The
expense category on the left of the slide, you'll note that reductions in
that side of the ledger include reductions in the operating transfers
out of the General Fund and increased expenditures. The last three
items there are the primary drivers of expense increases in the
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General Fund, and those include new capital money, transfers out to
the constitutional officers of $10 million, and building your reserves
by another $5 million next year in the General Fund.
On the revenue side, obviously, we're driven primarily in the
General Fund by property tax receipts, and you can see the projected
reductions that I talked about at the beginning of the presentation on
your state sales tax revenues and your state shared revenues.
Constitutional officer turnbacks are projected to be down by almost
$4 million. And you can see that the other large revenue increase is
your beginning balance or your carryforward of $7.7 million.
General Fund reserves, I just mentioned those. We continue to
look to build your General Fund reserves including both contingency
and cash flow reserves. You'll note in the bar chart the steady drive
to increase those reserves year over year, and it's extremely important
that we continue to do that. Those reserves are up a little more than
$5 million in FY '21 over FY '20.
Overall your reserve level is about 12.9 percent of your total
General Fund operating expenses. That's within the range that the
Board had set in their guidance. We looked to keep our General
Fund reserves somewhere between 8 percent as a floor and
16 percent as a ceiling. So you're at about 13 percent, so you're in a
relatively good range in terms of your General Fund reserves.
And why is that important? Again, we mentioned talking about
going out to borrow some money potentially next year for some
capital improvements. The General Fund reserves is one of the key
indicators that financial rating agencies look at when they issue credit
rating, and that determines our interest rate and our cost of
borrowing. So it's important to have strong reserves for that reason
as well as the other items listed here, including protecting your
beginning cash balance. All of you know that we have obligations to
transfer cash to constitutional officers at the beginning of your fiscal
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year well before we receive any of the property tax receipts. So we
need to have beginning balance, and the reserve levels help us make
sure that we have those cash balances when we need them at the
beginning of the year.
Your total outstanding principal debt recommended for Fiscal
Year 2021, $514 million. You can see, Commissioners, in FY '19
and FY '20 we issued about $179 million in new debt fo r such things
as the acquisition of the land for the new sports complex. In 2018,
we also issued a bond to build the complex. We issued some utility
bonds for the northeast service area utility upgrades and expansion
and, finally, the Golden Gate Golf Course acquisition also late last
year.
Debt service policy, we are compliant with the Board's guidance
and their policy on annual debt service. The Board had set a policy
that the ratio of your debt service to your bondable revenues cannot
exceed 13 percent. You can see that with the current debt service
load recommended for FY '21, we're at approximately 6.6 percent of
total bondable non-ad valorem revenues.
Let's look quickly at the revenues that drive your General Fund.
As I mentioned, your ad valorem dollars are up $19.2 million for FY
'21. Your sales tax dropped $9 million or projected to drop $9
million at year end FY '2020. They have been budgeted at
$38 million for FY '21. State shared revenues, again, we're
forecasting about a $2 million reduction in the current fiscal year
over plan budgeted at $9.5 million for FY '21.
Gas taxes are projected to remain about the same as they are this
year for FY '21. Your impact fee budgets project a slight decline for
FY '21, and your beginning cash balance in your General Fund, or
what we refer to as carryforward, is $82.1 million. That's a
19.8 percent of forecasted FY 2020 expenses. And, again, that's in
the range of between 15 and 20 percent that we shoot for in our
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beginning cash balance.
Let's take a quick look at your Fund 111 Unincorporated
General Fund budget highlights. The recommended FY '21 budget,
63.7 million. It's about 2.4 percent increase over the current budget
for your Unincorporated Area General Fund. And remember, 5.6
million of that is specifically earmarked to continue your median
landscape program that you started a few years ago.
And the other -- we'll take a look at the pro forma first. This is
your pro forma for the 111 fund, your Unincorporated Area General
Fund. You'll note on the expense side on the left that the transfers to
your median landscape capital program are up. Your transfers to
your community parks capital program are up. And the largest
increase there is $1.8 million of additional fundings to your
stormwater capital program.
On the revenue side, we're almost entirely driven by property tax
receipts. The communication services tax, which is the other
primary area of funding in your Unincorporated Area General Fund,
is down about $500,000 for next year, and that item is continually
under attack every year in the legislature, as you know from your
briefings on the legislative session each year.
We mentioned earlier the Collier County school resource officer
funding. For FY '21, the funding in the Sheriff's budget for that
program is about $13.6 million. We're in the third year of a
three-year buildup in that fund to allow the Sheriff to staff up to
cover all of the requirements that he has in the school system both
public and private here, and I think that is the last earmark, if I'm not
mistaken, of the three-year program. We're in year three?
MR. ISACKSON: Well, there may be -- I'll let the Sheriff
speak to that this afternoon, but there may be another add-on to the --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Mr. Ochs, we have a question
from Commissioner Taylor.
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MR. OCHS: Yes.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Mr. Ochs, I noticed your second
line or your third line that says the district has selected the most
expensive option provided in state law. That determines how many
deputies are at the school; is that what determines the expense?
MR. OCHS: When I say "the most expensive," the legislation
allowed the school district to choose among a couple different
methods of securing the facilities. One was to hire their own
security personnel, and they chose not to take that option. Another
option was to work with the Sheriff and have certified deputies in the
school, and another one, frankly, was, you know, to allow school
personnel to carry weapons and try to, you know, protect facilities
that way. So given those options, the school district and the Sheriff
had recommended that we use certified deputies in the school. And I
think, you know, that's a prudent decision, but it also happens to be
the most expensive of the three.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Are they sharing costs with us?
MR. OCHS: Well, they get an allocation from the State. It's
the second-to-the-last bullet on the slide, Commissioner. We get
about $1.8 million from the school district in the current fiscal year.
We'd expect that to continue into next year, but you can see it's
considerably shy of covering the cost of providing that service. And
we talked about that with this board last year.
And, finally, the last slide, and I'll end here, Commissioners. I
always end with a few reminders of the continuing challenges we
face in our financial planning in budgeting going forward.
We continue to have a significant reliance on your property tax
to fund your General Fund and your Unincorporated Area General
Fund. As long as taxable values hold up, we're able to make that
work. But it is a heavy reliance on a single revenue source.
And then, of course, balancing the competing interests of
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continuing to invest in new capacity expenditures for a growing
population while we're also trying to maintain our existing asset base
and fund new operations needed to provide those services to new
residents and visitors continues to be a challenge.
And with that, Mr. Chairman, that concludes my remarks, and
I'm happy to answer any questions, or we can move into the rest of
your program.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. I don't see anybody's light
lit up here, so we'll --
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Yeah. Mr. Chairman, you've got
some speakers on the call, several here, several on the call, and
they've listed the Board of County Commissioners and the general
overview, so...
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Let's go through the public
comment, then.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Very good.
Your first public speaker will be Melissa Alamo.
MS. ALAMO: Hi. Good morning. Can everyone hear me?
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yes, we can. Good morning.
MS. ALAMO: Great. Thank you so much.
So, good morning. My name is Melissa Alamo, and I'm a
community member of Collier County, specifically a proud member
of Golden Gate City.
And I am coming before you today to present something that I
believe in and think is so important. And given the current times
that we are facing as a country, we are beginning to have the long
overdue conversation of especially police brutality. And I'm asking
that as a board you take the necessary steps to critically examine the
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Collier County Sheriff's budget.
So according to the Fiscal Year 2020 gross operating budget, the
county spent over $200 million on the sheriff's department but less
than $5 million on healthcare and mental health, yet Collier County
has one of the lowest crime rates in the nation. And the reality is
that we rely on the police as a nation to also be the responder for
many other aspects of our society, including taking on the place of
social workers, mental health responders, amongst many other
professions, when the reality is that we already have people in these
important roles that have the proper training and education to meet
the needs of the community members in a nonviolent and effective
way.
And so I'm asking that the Board considers an emergency
budget conference to reallocate funding from the Collier County
Sheriff's Office. I believe that there are better ways that our taxpayer
dollars can be used by going to other important sectors in our
community such as the public services budget, including the
Community and Human Services and Health Division, the Affordable
Housing Special Revenue Fund, Golden Gate City Economic
Redevelopment Fund, as well as the Collier County Continuum of
Care Grants Program.
Additionally, there are other examples of productive ways to
reallocate these funds, and this can include building healthcare
infrastructure, wellness resources, neighborhood-based trauma
centers, drug and alcohol treatment program, investing in teachers
and counselors, as well as investing in youth programs that promote
learning, safety, and community care outside of just engaging with
the police.
And so my second request is that there is not an increase in
budget for the Sheriff's Department. According to the proposed
budget for the '21 fiscal year, there is a recommended increase of
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$9,142,100 for this new fiscal year that would specifically be added
to the General Fund's constitutional transfers which includes the
Sheriff's Department.
And so one of my biggest questions that I really -- especially,
like, for consideration that should be had is, what is the reasoning
behind adding an additional $10 million to that budget when that
money alongside the actual Sheriff's budget could be reallocated to
invest in the community and be put to better use?
And so, in conclusion, I have presented to you three requests
today: One, that the Collier County Sheriff's Department does not
receive a budget increase for the '21 fiscal year and that further funds
are reallocated from the Sheriff's budget that does get approved and
reinvested into other sectors of our community that require it the
most.
And, finally, that as a Collier County community, especially
starting with you, the people that have the power to start these
important conversations, that we begin to not only center the voices
excluded in our community but also begin shifting our thinking into
long-term sustainable and community-based public safety approaches
outside of just relying on the police for safety.
I ask that you please take these considerations seriously and
follow with actions. And I would like to thank you for your time
and consideration today.
And this concludes my comments.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you very much.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Mr. Chairman, your next speaker is
first initial J, last name Zellers.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And, Mr. Chair, can we just
remind our folks, even that are coming digitally, that there's a
three-minute --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I'm going to do that with the next.
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Is J. Zellers on the line?
MS. ZELLER: Yes.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: J.
MS. ZELLER: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Ms. Zellers, you're limited to three
minutes, and I'll let you know when that three minutes is up.
MS. ZELLER: Thank you.
I'm a born and raised Collier County resident of 21 years, and I
echo Melissa Alamo's recommendations in that I am urgently
requesting that Collier County take immediate action to defund its
police force and reallocate those funds in other areas of the county
budget. The police are complicit in this country's prison [sic]
industrial complex system that functions to impress [sic] black
indigenous communities.
The police are branded as a force that works to protect and serve
communities when, in reality, they only protect and serve a privileged
white few while criminalizing systemic issues of poverty, mental
illness and drug abuse, among others, that disproportionately affect
people of color, black and indigenous people in particular.
In Collier County, home to a large number of those privileged
white few, it is tempting to argue that our cops here aren't like the bad
ones up in New York or in some other large more diverse city, but to
deny the inherent hostile makeup of policing systems as a whole is an
act of violence against the black, indigenous, and nonwhite members
of our Collier County community.
The current budget allocations for mental health and the Health
Department combined make up only 1.4 percent of the health, safety,
and welfare allocations. It does not make sense for the Health
Department and mental health expenditures to make up 1.4 percent of
the health, safety, and welfare budget.
Furthermore, the public defender's budget is crumbs compared
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to the Sheriff's Department budget. How can you justify that this is
in the interest of protecting and serving our community when people
are unable to have access to a public defender to advocate for them in
the case that they become involved in a punitive system that is
increasingly criminalizing more and more aspects of their life?
I'm asking the county to reallocate money to resources that will
build up and strengthen the health and safety of our county to reduce
instances of crimes that result in punitive measures and incarceration
which ultimately further drain our county and state budgets.
I'm asking for the county to invest in the prevention of situations
that become criminalized. For example, Collier County police
respond to 911 calls involving mental health crises. Why are we
involving law enforcement officers in mental health crisis situations
instead of involving mental health professionals. I must emphasize,
however, that an appropriate response would not be to invest more
money into police for additional training or reform, as this has been
proven time and time again in many police departments across the
county to be ineffective at reducing misconduct on the behalf of the
police when they respond to such calls, let alone it reducing instances
of mental health emergencies altogether. Instead, let's invest in
public health initiatives to work on addressing the problem at its root.
I would also like to bring up the defunding of the 287(g)
program which is a further strain on our Collier County community,
as it diverts local and state funds away from public health and safety
initiatives and dedicates them to a program that has resulted in
widespread racial profiling according to a Department of Justice
investigation and that threatens community safety.
Thank you. I yield the rest of my time.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you very much.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Mr. Chairman, your next public
speaker is Denise McLaughlin.
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Denise, are you there?
MS. McLAUGHLIN: No comments.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Thank you.
Any other speakers?
MR. CASALANGUIDA: We have several. They're not
logged in. I'm just going to go down the list and see if they've
logged in.
Your next speaker is Barbara Karasek.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Pat Hill?
(No response.)
MR. CASALANGUIDA: And the last one is Dr. Joseph Doyle.
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. And if any of those
come online, let us know, and we'll interrupt and permit them to
make their presentation.
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, I turn it over to Mr. Isackson to
begin the program.
MR. ISACKSON: Thank you, County Manager Ochs. Chuck
Rice and the court agency is up first. While Chuck's coming up, let
me just mention --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Let me interrupt for just a quick
second. This won't affect this presentation, but we have three seats
there. That's not going to comply with the social distancing. And
so I want to make sure that we do have that 6-foot separation. It
looks like there's about four-and-a-half feet. No mask, but --
JUDGE FOSTER: I can put my mask back on if you'd like,
Commissioner.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Well, if you're going to be sitting
close together, then I would, but you-all aren't. And when we have
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three people come in, we're going to need to figure out something
else.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Spatial distancing.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Spatial distancing.
COURT AND RELATED AGENCIES
MR. RICE: All right. Well, good morning, Commissioners.
For the record, my name's Chuck Rice. With me to my left is our
administrative judge, Joe Foster.
We're here. Obviously the Public Defender and State
Attorney's not here today, so we're here to present also on their behalf
and from the whole court system.
We're presenting $5.7 million budget today, combined. That's
just over a half percent increase from our request from last year. We
are facing some of the same challenges that the county government's
facing with our revenue sources being down. That's why you see
some of your General Fund transfer increasing to cover that shortfall.
I'm here proud to say that our court system has been functioning
throughout COVID-19. We're doing a lot of unique and neat things
with technology, holding proceedings with -- remotely.
All of our -- I also want to just give a shout out to all of our
co-colleagues and stuff, the State Attorney, Public Defender, our
judges, the Facilities Department with the county, G4S, Sheriff's
Department, and the Clerk. We wouldn't be able to accomplish what
we've accomplished the last three months or so without everybody
buying in and doing their part. So it does take a village, and
everybody's been just a pleasure to work with. So thank you, Mark
and Leo and your staff, for that, and thank the commissioners for
your continued support.
I'll be brief, but I know last year I think Commissioner
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McDaniel -- I talked about our problem-solving courts and how well
they're doing. And you know the impetus of that came from the
leadership of this board and your support, and you spearheaded that.
Well, right now, some of our stats -- I think you asked me last
year about putting a number on it. Well, I have something for you
today, Commissioner. Basically our stats from October of 2018, the
national average of success graduation rate is 60 percent. Our
combined problem-solving courts, that's with drug court, mental
health court, and veterans court, is roughly about 70 percent. So
we're about 10 percent above the average combined since October of
2018.
Now, the number we put on it for the cost savings diverting
these people from jail, how we calculated that real quick, is just we
took $122 a day to be housed in the county jail and the number of
days participants were in the program. And that comes out, from
October 2018 through May of this year, a cost savings to the jail of
4 -- over $4 million, right over $4 million.
So thank you for your continued support in spearheading that in,
you know, the beginning of those stages.
With that being said, you know, our probation department
continues to work closely with our Sheriff's Department, and our
number-one goal with probation and law enforcement is public
safety, and I think we're accomplishing that.
So with that, if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer
any at this point.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commission McDaniel has a
question.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Not a question. Just a
comment. I want to thank you.
MR. RICE: You're welcome.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: As we all have discussed on a
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regular basis, the data that's coming at us is, at best, subjective. And
I asked you for that information because I personally am very data
driven on the programs and processes that we have in plac e, and that
correlation is remarkable for us to be able to continue to make
decisions on how we can best appropriate taxpayers' money. So I
applaud what you -- the efforts that have been done, the savings that
are attributable to those efforts, and thank you, sir.
MR. RICE: You're welcome.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I don't see any -- Commissioner
Solis.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Well, just -- I'd like to thank you
for the great job, and also on the treatment courts and what a great
benefit that is to the community.
And have any changes been made in terms of those courts kind
of becoming part of the -- I know there's different courts. There's
civil side, there's a criminal side, there's family court. Have any kind
of structural changes been made? I know that that was being
discussed at one point.
JUDGE FOSTER: Commissioners, I would echo what Mr.
Rice said. By the way, the COVID situation for us, as for
everybody, has been very, very challenging. We have been up and
functioning since the beginning. We operate under the guidance of
the Chief Justice of the Florida Supreme Court. We are in what
we're calling Phase 2 of a four-phase process as well. We are still
wearing masks in the courtroom anytime we have public proceedings,
even when we're socially distanced, to make sure that everybody who
comes to the courthouse is safe.
Much for the same reason, you can choose to go to the grocery
store. You can choose to go to a restaurant. You're forced to come
to court. And so we are going above and beyond to ensure that
everybody who steps into our building is safe and protected.
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: You know, Your Honor, I'd
say that that's a choice.
JUDGE FOSTER: To come to court?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: At some stage there's a
choice.
JUDGE FOSTER: I appreciate that. But in relation to the
treatment courts, I actually have the privilege of serving now the
mental health court judge and the veterans' treatment court judge, and
the structural changes you asked about, we have now incorporated
those into the felony division. I have assumed mental health court
and veterans treatment court. Judge Martin has maintained the drug
court. She is in the process of a national certification process and
wants to see that through.
I think you all know that the drug court is also a national mentor
court, which is awesome. But on the -- I really appreciate the
statistical side as well, but let me give you the person side.
Yesterday in veterans treatment court, I had the privilege of
graduating three members of the veterans treatment court. All three
gentlemen who were in that court were all very, very happy because
none of them had services prior to being involved in the veterans
treatment court. They had stayed away. They didn't know the
services existed.
When they come into the veterans treatment court, they are now
linked with the VA. They're linked with services. They're given a
support network and a support base, and we work with them. In
each of those cases, we were with them over a year to get them up
and running. I mean, two of them are in school. They're -- I mean,
they're becoming very, very strong and productive. But for the
opportunity of the veterans treatment court, they wouldn't have gotten
into those services. We also had the ability to graduate two mental
health court folks yesterday as well.
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This is all very interesting to me because we were actually shut
down for about six weeks. So these folks were still going through
the process. They were still working with treatment via Zoom, a lot
of remote stuff. We're still doing those courts remotely as well, so
no one's in the courtroom. But they still were able to maintain their
progress because of the support system they had in place and because
of the things that we've done and what treatment has done for them.
And so, yes, it's a great -- it truly is a wonderful cost saver. It
does truly move people away from a path that they're on. But as a
personal connection, several people yesterday commented, without
this program they would now be dead, and they probably may. I
can't speak for that. I just know that the program -- and it's not me.
It is the team that is assembled: The folks from the David Lawrence
Center, from the VA, from probation, the Sheriff's Department who
identifies the folks.
And to one of the callers earlier, the Collier County Sheriff's
Office has a wonderful mental health court team -- I'm sorry, a
mental health team that helps to identify folks who are in need of
services gets them those services. They don't just arrest them and
lock them down.
So very, very fortunate to work with the people that we work
with. We're very fortunate here in Collier County.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Just two quick questions also.
Number one, I'm just curious, what were the ages of the veter ans that
graduated, just out of curiosity?
JUDGE FOSTER: Two of the veterans, actually, they're
probably in their 30s, and the third veteran was a World War II vet.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Wow. Amazing.
And then, lastly, has there been an uptick in the folks that are
coming through just because of COVID? I mean, we're always
concerned with the effect that it's having on the mental health in the
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community.
JUDGE FOSTER: There is definitely an uptick in issues of
domestic violence. There's definitely an uptick in the issues of
substance abuse, stress-induced things, of course. We also -- so I
told you I graduated three people in veterans treatment court and two
mental health court. I brought in three new mental health court folks
yesterday. Last week I brought in one veteran and two mental health
court folks.
So we are -- we are identifying as we can. We bring them in.
As you know, there's certain criteria they have to meet in order to
become part of the program. We also have some folks who come
into the program but immediately go into residential treatment for an
extended period of time and then they come out. Once they come
out, then we work with them as well.
So it is -- this is not one size fits all. We identify what Joe
Foster needs, and we try to fit those needs for that individual.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Great. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I think Collier County has been
pretty proactive in trying to deal with the mental health issue.
Commissioner Solis has been the leader on the Board in bringing
awareness to that and trying to expand the drug courts and the
veterans courts and getting more mental health services to those who
need it, and perhaps, Commissioner Solis, sometime down the road,
you could give us an update on how well Collier County is doing.
We've had a couple callers talking about, you know, obviously,
stuff that was -- that we would not even want to talk about, defunding
the police and that sort of thing, but they do raise an interesting point
in terms of getting more mental health services to the people that
need it, and I think we're doing that. And so, I think we need to --
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Be glad to.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: -- let folks know.
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COMMISSIONER SOLIS: And I just -- as a quick comment,
and Judge Foster mentioned it. I mean, the proof it in the pudding.
I think the fact that the court -- our treatment courts have now
become essentially a mentor court and nationally recognized as a
mentor court. To help other communities do what we're doing is, I
think, an indication of how well it's working.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: So, perhaps, in September when
we're back --
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Glad to.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: -- you could give us an update on
things that are happening and let us know what else we need to do.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I'd be glad to. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. And I want to say, I
don't want to make light of a circumstance, Your Honor. You and I
are friends. And I made a comment about the choice aspect. And
there are those that don't have a choice, obviously, and I stand
corrected in that.
I want to applaud you, all of our partners that are helping with
this. Chuck, you and I, remember when we started -- when I started
serving on the Collier County Public Safety Commission, these
efforts all -- the efforts were really brought to light.
My ask for you today is let us know -- because you're the folks
that are on the ground. You said it very well, Your Honor; there is
not a one size fits all, and we need to know where the deficits are and
how we can then assist with those processes to best fit as many as, in
fact, are possible. So, please, from me, continue to share that. As
you see those deficits, let us know so that we can necessarily
appropriate where we can.
JUDGE FOSTER: I appreciate that. And actually you used a
word that I -- there's a group that I forgot to thank. In our veterans
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treatment court, one of the reasons they are so successful, we have
actual veteran mentors who take the gentlemen and ladies under their
wing and help them through the process, and without them , we would
not be a success at all, and I would be extremely remiss if I did not
mention them, because they are a tremendous asset to the veterans
treatment court. And I wanted to say thank you, and sorry I forgot to
mention them earlier.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: From listening, Judge, to your
comments, it crossed my mind how different the dialogue is today
than maybe even five years ago.
JUDGE FOSTER: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And that's not to say that we
weren't doing a good job five years ago, but I think -- I think with the
leadership of Commissioner Solis, two years, three years in the
making, the court system who came together and said, we can't keep
putting these people in jail; we've got to do somethin g different. I
hear it today, and it's very rewarding. It's so rewarding, because you
spoke what you do, and it isn't, you know, off with his head.
Go -- he goes to jail. It's looking and evaluating and understanding
there's a menu of services there and customizing that to the person
standing in front of you.
JUDGE FOSTER: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: It's a very emotional time for
me. I think it's just -- it just -- it just touches my heart. Thank you.
MR. RICE: I'd like to add before we close, you know, I put a
dollar value on some of the cost savings, but there's a term out there
that we use, "restorative justice." And if you can ever hear
testimony from some of these graduates, the impact on their lives and
restoring their lives and their families and employing other people,
the value to the community is far higher than that dollar amount that I
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put on it. So thank you-all.
JUDGE FOSTER: Absolutely.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: You know what would be an
interesting statistic would be, what is the r ate of recidivism for folks
that go through that program; how many lapse and go back into the
court system?
JUDGE FOSTER: I'm sure we have that somewhere, and I can
find out for you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I'd like to hear that happen at
some point.
JUDGE FOSTER: It is -- based on my experience in the felony
division, it is much lower.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Right. That's what I would
expect.
JUDGE FOSTER: And, again, the whole process is putting a
system of support in place, recognizing that everybody makes
mistakes. And I tell everybody this when they come into the
program. I make mistakes. You make mistakes. They make
mistakes. Recovery is a process. It is not a destination.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commission Solis, when you're
giving us an update in September --
(Simultaneous crosstalk.)
JUDGE FOSTER: I'll see what I can do to find that for you,
Commissioners.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Because there's an even larger
savings there.
Well, thank you very much.
I'm going to ask the commissioners, when you speak, you push
your buttons down, but when you're finished, if you will push them
again. We have a novice over there in charge of the --
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Oh, so he's the problem?
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yeah, he's the problem. This
thing is called a -- this thing is called a deliberator, and we have a
novice deliberator operator over there, sir.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Mea culpa, sir.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And just to protect
Mr. Casalanguida, he just hasn't figured out what buttons to push to
make us go away.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Oh, he knows which buttons to
push.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: If you want to let me start pushing
buttons, sir, I'm happy to do that.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: He's a master.
MR. RICE: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: And while the next speakers are
coming up, I would just like to thank my colleagues for supporting
these efforts in the last three years, because it really has made a
difference, and it's really all of us that have been involved in this. So
thank you for supporting it as well, because it's not just me.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Mr. Chairman, Dr. Doyle has joined
the meeting, and he wanted to talk about the general budget.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: And, Dr. Doyle, you have three
minutes, and I'll remind you when that three minutes is up.
DR. DOYLE: Thank you. Good morning, Commissioners.
Dr. Joseph Doyle, Naples.
As you remember, on October 24th in the early days of the
pandemic, you adopted a budget policy that I thought was too rosy,
and I let you know through an email. And then, of course, came the
"safer at home" lockdown on March 17th and, as such, our local
businesses suffered huge revenue losses during the abrupt end to the
prime tourist season --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Dr. Doyle, if I can interrupt for
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just a second. Are you on a speakerphone by any chance?
DR. DOYLE: Well, I'm on a computer mic.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Because you keep kind of coming
in and out. So if you could get closer to your microphone and kind
of stay in that position, perhaps we'll be able to hear you a little
better.
DR. DOYLE: Okay -- when the tourist season came to an
abrupt end, and as we know, a lot of our businesses make most of
their money during tourist season to carry them through the summer.
And despite the gradual reopening that we've had since May 4th,
many restaurant and retail employees are still laid off. And, of
course, as Mr. Ochs pointed out, sales tax revenues are down.
It is anticipated that we will be doing social distancing and
wearing masks as the new normal for through the remainder of the
summer. People are still fearful to dine in restaurants and to attend
events. So it's hitting slow to get the economy up and running.
And the tax revenues will be low till the end of the current fiscal year
ending on September 30th.
The situation really probably won't be much better for Fiscal
Year '21, especially if we get a second wave of the pandemic, from
November through April, and extreme social distancing and "safer at
home" recommendations persist for residents over the age of 60.
State and local economies across the country are being badly
damaged and many even permanently. I still think we have a little
rosy outlook here that is unrealistic.
As you know, our essential services are public health, sanitation,
storm and sanitary sewers, potable water, law enforcement, and EMS,
and unlike the first two speakers, I do not believe in defunding our
law enforcement, especially with what's going on with the country
these days.
Nearly all other services, projects, and programs, I feel, s hould
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be placed on hold for '21 since the financial fallout from the
pandemic is still unfolding. Unlike their neighbors in the private
sector, county employees were fortunate to avoid furlough and
receive full pay during the time period; however, you know, we have
many people who are still unemployed, small businesses are still
having a hard time getting up and going.
So rather than giving everyone a 2 percent cost-of-living
adjustment, I feel salaries should be flat at best. And we may need
to actually consider a 10 percent pay cut depending on what happens
with the fallout from the pandemic. Of course, that would be a pay
cut for all positions except for law enforcement and EMS, because
those are hazard-related conditions.
So I feel that the budget really needs to be reworked for the
September tax hearing. We have some time to do this. Let's look at
living within the rollback millage. You know, millage neutral's fine,
but with property values going up, it's still a tax increase.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Dr. Doyle, I'm going to need you
to go ahead and wrap up, if you could.
DR. DOYLE: Yeah. Well, it still says I have a minute on my
timer.
But anyway, like I say, renters and business owners pay the
brunt of property tax increases, and these are the people impacted
most by the shutdown.
So, you know, I'd like to see some of these projects put on hold
that are nonessential and just stay with the essential -- essential
services for the rest of this year as well as Fiscal '21.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you.
MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, your next department is
your Growth Management Department.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Good morning.
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GROWTH MANAGEMENT
MR. COHEN: Good morning. Thaddeus Cohen, for the
record, department head, Growth Management.
Appreciate this opportunity to discuss with you our preliminary
conversations on the GMD budget. The accomplishments of GMP
department would not happen without the professionalism, talent, and
dedication of the women and men with whom I serve.
Our budget supports division and priorities as laid out by the
Board of County Commission and directed by the County Manager's
Offices. GMD's Fiscal Year 2021 budget message highlights some
of the plans to continue providing exceptional services to the citizens
of Collier County.
GMD continues its efforts to enhance the quality and
sustainability of the environment. The Pollution Control section
confronts threats such as blue-green algae, red tide with a robust
sampling, testing, and monitoring program.
Enactment of the fertilizer ordinance will provide opportunities
for neighborhood and industry-based educational programs. The
Coastal Zone Management team will further their far-reaching work
with the Corps of Engineers to develop a 50-year beach resiliency
plan.
We continue to lean forward with technology to leverage
efficiencies in our delivery of services to the community. The
budget promotes reduction of manual operations and aggressive
revamping of processes to maximize the use of available technology.
The Development Services team will strengthen their processes
by engaging the public and business partners with expanded
e-permits and review initiatives, and I think you saw that with the
startup of the COVID-19. We were able to move from a 60 percent
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in e-permitting to now in May some 84 percent in e -permitting. And
then, clearly, we follow your example with being able to have Zoom
meetings. I think our first Planning Commission meeting went very
well with remote access. And so that technology we've been
working with, I think, enhances that delivery of our services.
Planning and zoning technology improvement in their online
offerings will increase residents' and business access to information
and improve document review coordination. Our Code Enforcement
teams have expanded their outreach working with community groups
and neighborhood cleanups and educational efforts, and that's part
of -- again, part of the COVID process. We've been able to partner
with delivery of services and supplies working with Dan Summers'
group. So we've got a robust program through our Code
Enforcement team to be able to assist us to do that.
The budget continues to support the intersection safety
improvements through our traffic operations team. I think you may
have seen in our newsletter whether or not, as you drive through our
community, is it luck or is it science that allows you to hit all the
traffic lights. So we're kind of excited about some of the technology
that we've moved forward on that.
Our comment is that it's science, not luck, you know, when you
are able to get down Airport. Added attention will be given to
energy savings through our replacement of existing streetlights with
LED fixtures. Resources are provided to the Transportation
Engineering to continue design of major arterial roads and the
construction of important local networks -- network links, excuse me.
Design and replacement of aging bridges continues a pace.
Road and bridge assets maintenance keeps pace with past funding
years. The landscape median program, as the manager indicated, is
funded with in-house crews to curtail cost. That was one of the
issues that came up last year as to whether or not if we brought -- I
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think we added four FTEs to help us reduce the costs on our
maintenance program. Unfortunately, we had to reduce the capital
program, but I think we're starting to see the benefits of those cost
reductions. And that's a challenge in being able to maintain the
scenic beauty of our community.
We will finish the current capital projects and then shift the
resources as we continue to do that to our existing lane miles.
Repaving surface program is funded to respond to the stress of
growth -- I'm sorry.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Let me interrupt for just a second.
We have a question. Commissioner Taylor?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes. It could have gone to the
end, but basically the question is, are we looking at all in
implementing electric charging stations within at least areas that we
control, which are government buildings?
MR. COHEN: Well, that issue has come up. I got some
documentation yesterday from the County Manager that there's a
public petition that will happen, I guess, at your next commission
meeting. I'm reaching out to some folks that I know that will
provide me with information as to what other communities are doing.
One of the places I just left, Key West, has charging stations at their
city hall, which was a renovation project. So I've reached out to
their sustainability coordinator, Alison Higgins, to see, you know,
what else is taking place.
So by the time that young lady does the petition, or shortly
thereafter, I'll be able to reach out to the manager as to what
possibilities we may have. It's a conversation that I've also had with
Steve Carnell some months ago as to, you know, where there's
opportunities. I know the Deputy County Manager, at the sports
complex, is looking at charging stations there as well. So it's
something that's in the forefront of our minds, and I think it's
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something that we'll be able to at least provide some level of
recommendations as to how we can move forward on that.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: They will be installed at the sports
complex, and we're looking at the government operations center as
well as Heritage Bay. So the first install will be at the sports
complex.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Great, thank you.
MR. COHEN: Okay. The FY budget will improve the
maintenance of our stormwater system. As you've heard, we've got
an additional $2 million to be able to help us continue on the capital
side as well as on the maintenance sides to move us, as you and the
Manager have indicated, towards an industry standard. That system
will help us to protect life, property, and improve water quality.
The GMD stormwater capital, we've been partnering, for
example, with the City of Naples, Collier County Public Utilities
Department to leverage our ability to extend services to residents and
reduce construction disruption.
We look forward to the completion of the new terminal down at
Marco Island in Fiscal Year '21. The budget will bolster our
partnership with DOT and FAA as we seek funding to improve our
runways at Immokalee and the airside facility at the Immokalee
airport.
In closing, COVID has changed the course of our lives in the
community in which we serve. It is often said a budget reflects our
values. I think during this time, history will record how we've cared
for one another, and that will be the value that will be remembered.
And with that, I conclude my comments.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I don't see any questions from the
Commission.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Mr. Chairman, you've got two public
speakers for this section.
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Your first public speaker will be
Mr. Brad Estes.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Brad, good morning.
MR. ESTES: Good morning, Commissioners. Brad Estes.
I'm the secretary of the Poinciana Civic Association, and I'm here to
reflect and also convey our sincere appreciation to what's happened
in the last year: Major change in terms of the responsiveness of the
stormwater group -- the ability of the stormwater group due to
additional equipment and additional funding/staffing.
As we speak, there's a crew working on the final phase of our
swale restoration, and that is a very precise -- if you've ever watched
that, it's very interesting. It's a very precise task because you have to
have the proper elevations to make sure the swale drains when it
should and doesn't drain when it shouldn't, so it retains and detains.
So we are looking -- and we're also looking very much so at the
$250,000 budgeted for 2021 for the valuation of our stormwater
system because there has been always the question, is it properly
designed, and can there be changes made that actually correct those
issues?
We have had already one storm that flooded our streets, so it's a
public-safety issue. There was 10 inches of water on our access
streets, and people are confused because they're not supposed
to -- they're told not to drive through water, but how do they get
home or get to work? So we're very, very appreciative of this and
look forward to the changes in the coming year.
That's really what I have to say this morning.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: How did Poinciana Village fair
last Saturday afternoon?
MR. ESTES: It went very poorly. And, actually, it was
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June -- I think June 2nd. It was a Saturday.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah, Saturday, last --
MR. ESTES: Very poorly. That's when we had 10 inches of
rain, and it was only two-and-a-half inches of rainfall, but it's very
fast. And we're still -- there are issues -- current issues with drains
that are dysfunctional.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay.
MR. ESTES: So there's maybe some maintenance issues that
can be handled more quickly than waiting on whatever renovations
and installation of new drains occurs in the years to come, so...
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I know this won't give you
much comfort, but my neighbor launched a canoe, and across the
street a child had his little paddleboard with his dog on it, and they
had a lot of fun.
MR. ESTES: Well, we had kids playing on paddleboards all
over with paddles, actually, padding down the swales, yes.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes.
MR. ESTES: And this is not a complaint. We're looking
forward, and this is the first time in my memory that a county
manager has brought forward and executed -- brought forward and
executed a plan that will remedy our many years of dealing with
flooding in our village, and thank you so much.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: One more speaker, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Kevin Bittner, remotely.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Mr. Bittner? You'll have three
minutes --
MR. BITTNER: Yes, Commissioners. This is Kevin Bittner.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: -- and I'll let you know when your
three minutes are up.
MR. BITTNER: Okay. Thank you, sir.
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My name is Kevin Bittner. I'm the president of the Orchards
HOA, which is located right off Vanderbilt Beach Road kind of
across from Tiburon Golf Course.
I met with several of you and then subsequently spoke at a
Commissioners meeting months ago regarding getting safer access to
our development. The traffic is increasing dramatically on
Vanderbilt Beach Road, as you all know.
We had briefly pursued access going through Piper's Grove.
That proved too litigious, so we moved on to constructing a traffic
signal at our entrance, which is on Vanderbilt Beach Road and
Groves Road at that intersection.
We have done traffic counts and have received approval of the
needs, the warrants of that signal from the county, and we've moved
into the design phase of that project at our own expense. We do plan
to follow through on this project at our own expense as well.
We have received preliminary plan and cost estimates of the
signal. But I would request consideration of at least a portion of this
project being funded by the county, and there are three points that I
believe warrant that: The increased traffic on Vanderbilt Beach
Road from the additional groves [sic] that the county has approved;
the proposed signal actually serves two communities: The Orchards
and Piper's Grove. We are coordinating with Piper's Grove for
potential cost sharing; and the third is that the county transportation
staff is requiring a U-turn lane for eastbound Vanderbilt Beach Road
traffic. This does not serve the Orchards at all. It simply serves
existing Vanderbilt Beach Road traffic.
So the total cost of the signal project right now is approximately
$620,000. The U-turn accounts for about $120,000 of that. That's
according to our preliminary estimate that Mr. Trebilcock has worked
on.
So we're just simply asking for consideration for any potential
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funding that the county could have available, in particular the
$120,000 that the U-turn has added to the project.
So the Orchards is a working-class community, and it definitely
has a need for safer egress/ingress, and we're simply asking the
Commissioners to consider that need in their upcoming budget.
That's all. Thank you very much for your consideration and time.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: That's it.
MR. SHUE: If I could, I'd like to make one quick comment.
Gene Shue, Operations Support Director.
I always feel obligated this time of year to tap the horn of the
airports. This whole -- this budget represents the seventh
consecutive year that we'll have an operating profit, so that's no
operating support from the General Fund.
We continue for the Fiscal Year, FY '21, to have support on the
capital side, but as we project ahead, we don't see that even being
necessary for the next seven to 10 years. So I think that's quite a
turnaround from 2014 when growth management first got involved.
And I give 100 percent of the credit to the management team. So I'll
throw their names out there: Justin Lobb, your executive airport
manager; Andrew Bennett and Kate Whitson, managers of the Marco
airport and the Immokalee airport, and those guys have given the
county world-class management that has really turned around. And
years ago, my boss at that time told me, run the airports like a
business, and that's exactly what we've done, and the results are
self-evident.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Congratulations.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you.
MR. OCHS: Mr. Shue's a bit modest. He's the one that's
leading that whole financial group over there.
MR. SHUE: Well, I hired that group. I'll take credit of that.
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MR. CASALANGUIDA: Awesome, Gene.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I think we may be due for a court
reporter break. So we're going to come back at 10:35. And, Mr.
Ochs, as I mentioned on the presentation table there, if we do have
three people, we're going to have to figure something out.
MR. OCHS: We won't have three. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. All right. Then we'll
reconvene at 10:35.
(A brief recess was had from 10:25 a.m. to 10:35 a.m.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Ladies and gentlemen, if you'll
take your seats, we'll reconvene. Good morning.
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, we move to Mr. Carnell and the
Public Services Department.
PUBLIC SERVICES
MR. CARNELL: Good morning, Commissioners. I have Kim
Grant with me who's our Director of Operations and Veteran Services
and my financial manager guru for our department.
I want to begin this morning by saying that I think in the Public
Services Department we are consciously focused on embracing the
new normal. And I mean "the new normal" meaning life with
COVID going forward. We don't know how long this virus is going
to be with us, threatening us, or affecting us, but we're in it for the
long haul, and that's going to mean a number of things for us. That's
going to mean continuing to adapt to the progression of the virus and
tempering some of the traditional expansion of programs or
modification of programs that we had more freedom with, say, a year
ago.
We'll continue to monitor, of course, the social and economic
and societal trends that relate to the virus, and then one of the most
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important things is we've adapted to the virus, and we will continue
to adapt, and we're also going to retain some things from this
adaptation process that I think our customers like with or without a
virus, and I'll tell you about a few of those things as we go through
this morning.
Our operating budget is within compliance and aggregate across
the department. We have had -- we have small increases of less than
1 percent to our operating budgets in fund -- in the General Fund and
the Unincorporated General Fund.
We've had revenue reductions that midyear, most notably the
museum division, reduced operating by over $450,000 because of
their loss in tourist tax revenue. And for next year's budget, the
museum will be scaled back by about $300,000 for the year.
Our parks budget has been -- revenue budget has been reduced,
between the two funds, the General Fund and the Unincorporated
General Fund, by about $450,000 for the coming year.
So with that, though, we are moving forward. We'll be fully
operating as close as we can to full operations. And I want to begin
with our Community and Human Services Division. A couple things
there. The big picture thing there is that, as the County Manager
alluded to earlier, there are several state and federal grant funding
opportunities coming our way. Many of them are COVID related.
There are six that are on our radar now that are COVID related.
We've talked about a couple of them in passing already this morning.
Then there's going -- there's a couple related -- there's hurricane
mitigation money still coming forward from the state and federal
government as well. These are all going to have significant
opportunities -- present significant opportunities for us as an agency,
not just my department, but as an agency, to improve the
infrastructure in our community and with the CARES Act type
funding to address programs and needs in the community that have
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been accentuated by COVID.
I mention all that in the context of community and human
services because that group is going to be managing all of these
budgets from cradle to grave on behalf of the agency, and the
beneficiaries will be not just county departments who will be
administering the programs but our constitutional officer agencies,
our local municipalities, and, of course, all the residents that they
serve. That's going to be a big rollout for them t his coming year.
There's going to be a requirement for additional temporary staffing
resources that will be funded through those grants, and we'll address
those as we bring them to you.
MR. OCHS: Steve, let me just jump in and interrupt.
Commissioner McDaniel and Chairman Saunders, you had
asked about this in the introductory briefing. Steve is referring to the
recent allocation of CARES dollars to counties and cities below
500,000 in population. We have, as I mentioned at the outset, a
detailed executive summary in your packet that you received last
evening for next Tuesday's agenda that rolls this out in detail, and
we'll be able to have a full discussion on that. But this initial
allocation from the State is about $16.7 million in CARES funding
and, as I mentioned, we'll be able to recommended some allocation
areas for you to consider next Tuesday and give us some guidance on
how you'd like us to proceed with the allocation of those dollars.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I'd like to just make a quick
comment in reference to that, just so everyone on the Board will have
my thinking as we go through this, and we'll be making some
decisions perhaps as early as next Tuesday. But we're
getting -- we're getting 16.7 million, and I think that number's going
to go up.
And I'd like to see us consider making sure that all of these
dollars go into the individuals that need money as opposed to
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reimbursing ourselves for expenses we may have incurred. And that
goes for the cities as well. They're going to be looking for funds to
reimburse -- to be reimbursed for some of their expenses, and I'd like
to plant the seed that my view is that we need to get all of this money
that comes in through the CARES Act into the communities that need
services, that need, you know, rent abatement, perhaps, food, things
like that that are very critically needed by people as opposed to
reimbursing governments for their expenses. So I just want to plant
that seed, and we'll have some discussions next week.
MR. CARNELL: Okay.
MR. OCHS: Very good. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Oh, I'm sorry. Commissioner
McDaniel is lit up.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes, I am, and I concur, with
caution. When we talked about this last week, I'm sure you've had
an opportunity to see the laundry list that's coming from the federal
government with regard to how and when and what those monies, in
fact, can be spent on, and we obviously need to manage through that
as well.
I would like to see the priority of the expenditure go towards
those who are in need and not reimbursing the government
particularly.
MR. OCHS: Understood.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: But that is fulfilling a need at
the same time, so there's certainly a balance that can be struck.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Taylor?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah. And that's the balance I
was just thinking. You kind of took the words from my mouth.
There was a report today on the news on the NPR, matter of
fact, of the damage that are being done to children that cannot go to
camps; how children learn from other children; how they need that
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socialization; how it is critically important that we maintain some
kind of normalcy for those children.
And I would say that probably applies to teenagers also. In
fact, I've also had a pretty in-depth conversation with Coach Kramer
who said the worst thing you can do is quarantine children. And so I
think as we move forward, giving it to those who need most might
mean giving it to programs that we can staff in order to keep some
semblance of normalcy in this very un-normal time.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Thank you.
MR. CARNELL: Well, thank you.
And I segue off what you just said, Commissioner Taylor, on the
other end of the age spectrum. We had to discontinue our senior
congregate meals program at the outbreak of the virus in March
because of lack of social distancing and, frankly, our clients were
uneasy being around each other at that point. So we adapted to a
home meal delivery program, which is good in terms of providing
seniors nutrition, the food they need, but it doesn't deal with the
entire intent of the program. The program is food, and the program
is fellowship. It's connecting people to one another.
So we -- that was a temporary measure. We have reopened
three of the four meal sites with appropriate social distancing, and the
last site in Golden Gate is going to reopen at the end of the month,
and we've been adapting from passing out unperishable food to
frozen food, prepared, to now hot cooked meals, so we're back to a
regular level of service for everybody.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: How are you going to handle
the socialization aspect? Or they just come and pick it up and then
leave again?
MR. CARNELL: Yes. There will be some limited room -- I'm
sorry. There will be room for a limited number of people spread out
who can sit, and if they want to talk to each other six feet apart or
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more, we'll be positioned to do that, but a lot of it will be pick up and
take home.
So that is where we are presently with our community and
human services. Again, we'll have that program in its new normal
state by the end of the month in full across all of our sites.
Our Domestic Animal Service Division, the first lead item here
is good news. We still have an incredibly high live release rate;
96 percent of all the animals. Twenty-four out of 25 animals that
come into our shelter go home to a good home.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Wow.
MR. CARNELL: And we're very pleased with that, and we
thank not only our staff but our partners in the community, all of our
rescue groups that work with us diligently to make that happen.
We've been -- also, we have a new staff veterinarian beginning
on Monday. We're very excited. Dr. David Robinson is coming to
us. Twenty years experience in running public shelters. He's very
excited, and we're looking forward to his arrival. And as
Dr. Robinson arrives, we'll be making plans to reinstate some of our
programs that we run out of clinic, including our public vaccination
programs. We'll be starting rabies vaccinations at the end of August.
We'll have our first monthly event on August 28th.
And then the rest of this, really, to share with you is kind of
COVID-19 related. We've been adapting, as I've said, to the virus.
And in the world of DAS that's meant a couple of different things.
We have, number one, installed a telephone app that we provide to all
of our customers who come to the shelter now so that they can queue
up in the parking lot, and when we're ready for them to come in, we
page them through the telephone app, and this has allowed us to
spread people out and keep people safe.
We also have, really, ad libbed with our adoption population.
And we've turned to our foster care families. And I don't know how
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familiar you all are. We have a number of families in the
community who are fostering volunteers who will take animals in our
population for a short period of time. And that's typically been for
animals that needed a little special attention that weren't quite ready
for the kennel environmental. We've expanded that in March, and
the director adapted and, essentially, farmed out almost the entire
shelter population to the foster families.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Wow.
MR. CARNELL: So these dogs and cats have been spoiled
rotten the last three months. And we are tremendously indebted to
our foster families.
We're also not wanting to wear them out, so we are bringing
animals back into the shelter in small quantity. And, obviously, we
have certain animals that have to be housed in the shelter. We have
stray animals and dangerous animals. But the foster population is
still -- the foster -- our foster families are still carrying a good deal of
the load right now. And part of the reason, necessity for that is that
we lost our kennel cleaning support from the Sheriff's Office in
March because the inmates who were coming in doing the cleaning,
the Sheriff couldn't take them off site because of the virus, and we
totally understand that.
He's targeting -- Sheriff's Office has been targeting a return of
that support to us at the end of July, but we're looking at alternative
ways to get that done for the future. In the short haul, we're doing it
because, again, some of the restrictions of the virus in our operations
have actually helped us manage the kennels. We have been limiting
our community patrols, and this has been at the guidance of the
National Animal Association that we are members of. And we have
been limiting patrols to picking up stray animals and emergency
calls, dangerous calls. We -- and that's helped us because the control
officers have been available to help us in the shelter with some other
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activities.
But we're going to be needing them back out on the street. And
I would anticipate by October, by the FY '21 you'll see regular
patrolling in our animal control officer group going and happening
each day. So that's where we are right now with DAS.
We've been doing an awful lot of our adoptions online as a
result of the virus, and that's the kind of thing that we anticipate, we'll
retain that and try to encourage as many of our future adoptions, do
your paperwork, do all your preselection ahead of time, a nd then that
way we can limit your time in the shelter when you come to get the
animal.
Our Library Division is moving forward. As you all know, we
reopened our regional branches at the end of May, and I'll be
updating you on Tuesday. We'll be opening -- we've opened Golden
Gate and Marco Island, and we'll be opening Golden Gate Estates
branch by the beginning of July, and we anticipate by October 1st all
of our branches will be reopened and functioning.
We -- our COVID impacts beyond what I've described to you
already, as I mentioned to you in previous briefings, we continue to
have to quarantine materials for a period of three days to allow them
to decontaminate, if you will, to the extent there is any. But that,
again, has presented some opportunities. We've had to alter our
service delivery.
We're not able to offer face-to-face programming in our libraries
the way we had in the past, but we've been doing more virtual
programming online. And one of our big success stories has been
with Hispanic story time, we're getting over 300 views a week on
story time programs that we're posting. And this has been
interesting, because the library staff has struggled for years to engage
the Hispanic community in story time, and we've offered in -person
stories in Spanish, but the virtual window has changed everything.
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And there's a great deal of demand and great deal of interest from our
Hispanic families -- our Spanish-speaking families in the community.
So we're -- again, we consider that a blessing of this whole virus
thing, another opportunity to deliver service in a way that's been very
well received.
So we'll continue to do those kinds of programs, but we won't be
doing, really, any in-person programming until our social distancing
guidelines are a little further relaxed. So that's with the libraries.
Moving over to museums, they're in kind of a similar boat.
They're somewhat of a restriction and a limit. I think you may know
the Governor's most recent order on crowd sizing was to raise the
number to 50 -- 50 people. We're still under the 6-foot social
distancing limitation. And the museums is operating under that
restriction. And to that extent, we're going to be re -- we'll be
reinitiating our lecture series for 50 people or less and, obviously,
you know, in environments where we can space people out
sufficiently.
But you'll be seeing some lecture series activities and some
other activities in the museums where we can control the crowd and
keep people safe recommencing. And I think by FY '21 by October
that will be going at a little bit more rapid rate.
This budget, though, has taken quite a hit. It's probably taken
the harshest hit of any in my group. In the current fiscal year, as I
mentioned in the beginning, we had to reduce the budget by a
quarter; $464,000. That was mostly accomplished by eliminating
certain capital projects. And for next year, we're going to start
$300,000 adopted budget lower than it was to begin FY '20.
We've done that through capital project reduction. We've also
scaled back our marketing funds considerably. And we'll be making
do with what we've got with marketing. We're going to just focus
entirely on social media and see if we can get as much of the job
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done that way with a little help from Mr. Wert. He's going to help
us with a little more out of the CVB budget for marketing as well,
which we appreciate.
One last thought on the museums. As you all know, the
museums are capped right now, a hard cap, $2 million annually in
tourist tax revenues, and we are -- we're at the ceiling right now.
And, in fact, the COVID has kind of accelerated that, if you will.
We knew we were heading towards a place where we were going to
have to start cutting expenditures, and we're at that point now. We'll
be able to continue to operate all five sites in FY '21, but we'll have
very little discretionary funding available for programs or activities.
And we plan to address this in more depth with the five of you
in the fall in terms of a more long-term view. We're good for now,
but we'll need your help and guidance, and we'll be talking to you
about that after the budget is adopted.
So that's where we are presently with the museums. Again, all
five sites are open and functioning.
Briefly, our operations and veterans services group. This is
Kim's team. I just wanted to tell you that we transitioned our veteran
client appointments to entirely online or telephone at the outbreak of
the virus, and that's gone extremely well. As you can imagine, most
of our population is reticent to visit us in person anyway right now.
And so this shift has been well received, and we believe it's going to
continue indefinitely at this point. There may be a point in time
where in-person appointments reopen, but right now there's no
demand for that. Everybody's very comfortable with the way we're
doing it, and so we're pleased to be able to deliver services safely to
folks.
Kim's group is also working internally on centralizing all of our
financial resources and staff. We're spread out across the
department, and she's bringing them in. Kind of each division at a
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time is becoming -- growing into her team, and her team's going to be
providing increased financial support. We think that's going to help
with some efficiency, and it's going to give the department head a
little better visibility across the whole operation of what's happening
financially at any one time and will help us with future planning.
We're also doing some technology planning in centralizing. I
think you-all will remember we have an enterprise asset management
system, and we've got it up and running in all of our divisions right
now. Our parks and our museums are the most active users of it
directly, and we're using that system to essentially classify our assets,
get a better handle on where our repair costs are and what kind of
things we need to do to abate those costs moving forward.
The Parks Division, of course, that's our largest division. And
I've got to just toot everybody's horn in the Parks Division for them
for just a moment. They just successfully created -- I'm
sorry -- completed successful reaccreditation through CAPRA, which
is the Commission for Accreditation of Parks and Recreation
Agencies nationally. This is a big deal. There are almost 10,000
parks and recreation agencies in the United States of America, and
only 171 of them out of 10,000 are credited. We're one of them, and
this is a reaccreditation. This is not anything new. We just went
through a very extensive process with participation from staff, from
our PARAB members, and other community sponsors. And we got
a perfect score on all 151 standards that were reviewed.
So my commendation to the Director Barry Williams and the
assistant director, Jeanine McPherson, who ran point on that. We've
got a good operation in our Parks Division.
The Big Corkscrew Island Regional Park, you know, is opening
in two phases. We had a discussion at the last board meeting about
that. I'll just briefly reference that Phase 1 is, as we talked about last
week, it's opening in two pieces, two stages. The first one will be in
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Thanksgiving time between Thanksgiving and Christmas. We'll be
opening soccer fields, baseball fields, picnic area, restroom,
concessions, essentially the north end of the property, if you will.
And then the southern end of that property will be opening next
summer, in July, and that will include your aquatics center,
community center, event lawn, children's playground, hard courts,
and maintenance building. So we're obviously excited to se e all that
coming on board.
Speaking of aquatics, as you all know, we have three community
pools. We have one water park, Sun-N-Fun, and one water feature
at the Vineyards. The Eagle Lakes aquatic facility celebrated its
second anniversary yesterday. And we've had a great deal of traffic
at Eagle Lakes over the two-year period. Most recently we
had -- last year we had 41,000 visits to Eagle Lakes, and we just
continue to be very excited with the progress of that facility.
Eagle Lakes is the baby in the group. Everybody else has got
some age on them. Sun-N-Fun opened in 2006. The other pools at
Golden Gate and Immokalee are at least 30 years old, and they're
showing their age, and we're really to the point of having to make a
concerted effort to address these problems.
Right now Sun-N-Fun is really the most severe. We've got a
need to tend to all the pool sites. All the water features need work in
one form or another. We need to do work with our deck, with our
pumps, our motors, the bridges and all the infrastructure in -- on the
complex. We're going to begin that process this Tuesday with you.
We have an agenda item on to award a contract to repair the bridge
over the lazy river. That will be about a $300,000 project. And you
could say that's the kickoff to project rehab Sun-N-Fun, but we've got
several other projects that we need to address there.
At present we do not have identified funding the rest of those
projects. We have some design money budgeted, but the rest of it is
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not budgeted. And as the County Manager mentioned to you, we'll
be coming back to you in the fall with a plan but -- for dealing with
all the activity at Sun-N-Fun.
We also have a project at Golden Gate that's near completing the
design. The activity pool, which has been closed for some time now,
we've got a design ready to rebuild that. We're going to need to find
money. That will need to be part of this funding plan discussion in
the fall.
But we are going to need to close Sun-N-Fun and keep it closed.
Right now it's been closed for COVID-related reasons. Our other
pools are open. But we need to close it in order to effect these
repairs. And, again, we'll be talking more to you-all about that in the
fall. But the general plan is to try to take the next year and get
Sun-N-Fun completely made over to where we could reopen it next
summer. And as we reopen it, Big Corkscrew, the aquatic facility
will be coming online at the same time, and at that point we'll turn
our attention to the community pools with any remaining projects we
have there.
There are some projects, like at Golden Gate, the one I just
mentioned, the activity pool, which we'll do sooner than that if we
can find the money. But the rest of them we may have to close those
pools for a period of time after Sun-N-Fun is reopened, after Big
Corkscrew is online so we make sure that we're giving our citizens at
least a decent number of choices at all times for pool locations.
So more to come on that right now. That is really the single
biggest capital priority in my department for the coming year is to get
our arms around aquatics and get them back where they need to be.
The good news is that when we go through this process a nd we're
done, we'll be largely done for a while. We'll need to fix something
here and fix something there, but it will be nothing like this for quite
a while. So that's where we are with aquatics at the moment and our
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Parks Division.
Just a couple others. Your Public Transit and Neighborhood
Enhancement group, right now, as you all remember, we
discontinued collecting fares in March because of the virus, and we
are now in a position where we're looking to reinstitute fare
collection in July. We need to create, essentially, some plexiglass
barriers between the drivers and the fare boxes to keep the drivers
safe and the public. So we're in the process of putting those into the
buses. And we're anticipating that we'll be able to resume fare
collection in either July or August. In either case, your budget
you're approving here is predicated upon the revenue collection -- the
fare collection resuming next year.
Beyond that, I mentioned adaptation. There's been quite a bit
of adaptation in your CAT bus service and your para transit with
increased sanitation of the vehicles, providing more social distancing
on the buses, spreading people out, and really trying to make a
concerted effort to educate drivers -- I'm sorry -- passengers
regarding the use of social distancing and separating from each other
on the bus. We're also looking to implement, as we return to fares, a
touchless fare system that can be done without any human contact.
Anyway, so those are some of the things that we're working on
with Collier Area Transit right now. There are some upcoming
projects as well, and part of the CARES funding provides us the
potential opportunity to start bus service in Everglades City, regular
bus service. We've had queries about that.
Yes, Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Major yay.
MR. CARNELL: Yes. More to come on that.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes.
MR. CARNELL: We'll be talking about that more as grants get
awarded. We've been in communication with the community dow n
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there, and I think there's some interest. We'll start with kind of a
van-based service and see where that takes us in terms of growth.
So there's Public Transit and Neighborhood Enhancement.
And then last, our University of Florida -- I'm sorry, question?
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: No, go ahead. Go ahead and
complete your --
MR. CARNELL: Okay. I'm almost done here.
University of Florida Extension. This group has been
rebuilding since Hurricane Irma, and you'll remember the devastation
to the complex there. They moved back in in February a year ago,
and we're still, though, working through a number of improvements.
The kitchen that was damaged in the hurricane is being rebuilt
as we speak, and we're expecting that will be done by the end of July,
a new kitchen that will allow for more 4H-type food-related
programming and other local food groups using the facility. We're
also -- we rebuilt the multipurpose room there. And now, if you've
been out there and haven't seen it, it kind of looks like a spo rts bar.
You know, we have this big giant wall with 24 TV screens that we
can use for educational programs and all kinds of different uses, and
that was done as a joint effort with our Information Technology
Division, which we greatly expect their -- appreciate their help.
And then they're going to be rebuilding their greenhouse that
was blown down in the hurricane, grant willing. We are pursuing a
grant for that, along with redoing the parking lot out there. The
parking lot, we need to look at putting some type of pervious grass
parking in that will drain better, and also we need to improve the
lighting. So those are coming forward in grant requests that you'll
be seeing shortly.
Excited about all that. And there's also a chance to build a little
bit of a storage facility out there, not only for the equipment that the
university extension uses, but also some space for Mr. Summers to
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store, essentially, emergency response/disaster response vehicles,
particularly for fire response. So that's what's happening with
University Extension.
With that, I'll just take any questions you have.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes, three. Number
one -- I'm going to go backwards. And I think I'm going to
start -- County Manager, I'm going to start talking to Steve about the
bus transport, because you looked at me crooked when I was asking
for a route into Everglades City, and now he's making it happen. So
I'm -- I think I'm just going to go right around to him.
MR. OCHS: That probably works better.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Thank you, by the way.
That's going to be immeasurable for our community down there.
MR. CARNELL: It's not a fait accompli, sir, but we are going
to pursue it.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I understand. Just the sheer
fact that it's on the horizon is wonderful, because it wasn't -- it wasn't
before. So thank you.
And, by the way, you know I am joking, again, because the
County Manager's the one that makes all this happen --
MR. CARNELL: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- so I just want to thank you
both.
MR. OCHS: You're welcome.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Number two, museums.
When I was -- you said you're going to come back to us in the fall
and talk to us about the museum budget. I only see four noted
locations of museums in the budget process, and I know we have
five.
MR. CARNELL: That's correct.
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And then you have an
aggregation of administration, operations, so on and so forth at the
top. So when we come back in the fall, I would like to see -- as best
as you possibly can. There's no definitives with regard to the
appropriation of staff administration, who does what, but a little bit of
a segregation per museum.
MR. CARNELL: Absolutely.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And that will help us in our
deliberations with regard to that.
MR. CARNELL: Sir, I can give that to you today.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Not today. Not today.
MR. CARNELL: Okay. Fine.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I'm just -- but that would help
when we actually -- because you were talking that, you know, there
are shortfalls in those budgets, and I just -- if we knew where, when
and how we would better -- I would better be able to maybe help and
administer along those lines.
And, third, I'd like you to look into some kind of a capital
investigation. I'm very good friends with Paul Hiltz, the director of
NCH. They have two, he calls them bug zappers, and t hey are an
ultraviolet machine that they take into hospital rooms that whack
every microorganism in the facility. And that may help us as we
continue, as you say, to deal with what our new norm is, in fact,
going to be with the virus.
Having one of those means either on contract and/or available,
that might be something that we, as an organization, want to have a
look at, especially with the public services -- public surfaces that we
have to, on a regular basis.
Now, he is very careful to say, it's a one-time shot. When you
go through with that machine, it works then, and then once people
start coming around again, then those microorganisms pop back up.
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But it's certainly something that we could have a look at to provide
for some additional security for our community. And our -- so,
just -- I would like to have that looked at as well.
MR. CARNELL: Sure.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Thank you, Mr. Chair.
MR. CARNELL: I'm writing that down: Bug zapper.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Bug zapper.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. Anything else?
If not, I'll move to --
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Mr. Chairman, you have three public
speakers for this section.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I'm sorry. Keep your seats.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Our first public speaker is Miryam
Haarlammert. Miryam.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: And you'll have three minutes,
and I'll alert you when your three minutes are up.
MS. HAARLAMMERT: Okay. Can you hear me?
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yes.
MS. HAARLAMMERT: Okay. Great. Hello. I'm
Dr. Miryam Haarlammert, and I'm speaking in solidarity with the
Black Lives Matter movement and with larger global abolitionists
movements, all of which focus on eliminating slavery and
exploitation in all its forms all across the world. I am also speaking
as a scholar and as a mother of a young child who will soon enter the
school system to begin his educational journey.
Calls to defund/abolish police rightfully include the
demilitarization and policing of our schools. The message here I'm
standing behind is not cops but counselors in our schools and for our
county budget to reflect that call.
We have learned from many rigorous psychological studies that
children cannot thrive in fear of being threatened if they feel unsafe
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and if they lack access to resources. Some of the resources
mentioned now in the public services, the libraries, specifically
Spanish-speaking reading time. All those things deserve more
funding than the policing of our schools.
In 2018, Florida became the first state in the nation to require
armed staff or law enforcement officers to be present in every
K-to-12 school in the state. Collier County schools should remove
police, both public and private, from our all schools. Children need
empathy, understanding, and nurturing for their safety, not fear,
ignorance, and the imposition of state agents and the violences [sic]
that guides for safety.
We need to humanize our children, and the presence of police
and lack of resources create a dangerous combination for them;
therefore, we should allocate funds to make life -affirming resources
accessible for all students, and these include school-based mental
health providers such as school counselors, psychologists, nurses, and
social workers who have the knowledge, skills, and expertise to work
with students.
Our taxpayer money should be allocated in ways that reflect our
respect for our youth as a society, and that's not what's happening
right now. All of this is in an effort to create a fear or more
democratic society starting at the very beginning in places like
schools, which matter a great deal in the lives of our children.
Thank you. I yield the rest of my time.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Mr. Chairman, your next public
speaker is Eliven Cruz.
MS. CRUZ: Hello. Good morning.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yes, you'll have three minutes.
MS. CRUZ: Okay. Thank you.
Hi, I want to reiterate what Miryam had said before me. I want
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to reiterate what Melissa Alamo and, I want to say, J said a
few -- like an hour ago. I'm also here calling to defund the Police
Department for Collier County.
I'm looking at the budget, and it shows the Sheriff's Office is the
only department or, you know, facility that has 100
million -- 200 million allocated funds. Everything else is single
digits, maybe double digits, and I want to express my need for
allocating some of those funds to services like parks and rec, like the
museums, like library services.
I am from Golden Gate. I live in an immigrant population
city -- immigrant populated city. I want to see more services, you
know, that benefit them. I want to see more services benefiting, like,
the region of Golden Gate, Lely, Immokalee. You know, I came
from a single-parent household. My parent couldn't take me to the
movies. She couldn't take me to Disney. She couldn't take me to
Universal Studios, as it was mentioned before.
And I would love to see more, you know, community outreach
coming from parks and rec, in the way that -- you know, I would
want to see movies on the lawn. I would want to see jazz in the
park. I would want to see yoga in the park. Just things like that to,
you know, benefit the community even more just because a lot of the
people that come from these communities don't get to see that. They
don't get to go to Cambier Park and all the events that they do
downtown because they don't have the means to do even simple
things like that.
So I express my need for the defunding of the Police
Department. I think that budget is outrageous. There is no need for
a, you know, department to have that much of our -- it is almost half
of our entire budget for the Collier County. There's no need for that,
you know. And I am a person of color. I've been afraid of the
police my entire life. I would love to see, you know, these funds
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allocated elsewhere.
Thank you, and I yield the rest of my time.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Mr. Chairman, your final speaker is
Mr. Scott Burgess here.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Scott, good morning.
MR. BURGESS: Good morning. Thank you very much for
the opportunity to be here. I wanted -- for the record, Scott Burgess,
CEO of David Lawrence Center.
And I wanted to say thank you to the Commissioners for all that
you've done in supporting mental health and substance use disorders
in our community.
Across time, we've already had a number of folks that have
talked about this morning about the importance of those issues. And
we have as a community, I think, done an amazing job in advancing
initiatives in this regard. I want to thank you for the recent passage
of the strategic plan for Collier County, and I think that provides us a
roadmap on how we can attend to these issues even better year over
year.
I thought I would mention just a couple of things in relationship
to David Lawrence Center specifically. We have had another year
that we're projected to have significant service increase. Two years
ago we provided 265,000 services, last year we provided 277,000
services, and this year we're projected to provide 294,000 services.
So as our community continues to grow and really as we're
having success with a lot of our diversion opportunities that we're
working on with the Sheriff's Office, we are getting people tracked
into treatment rather than the criminal justice system whenever
possible.
So we have seen increase in referrals from the Sheriff's Office
for folks to get the treatment that they need. Success rates have been
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very high, and we've reported out on recidivism data and other types
of data to the County Commissioners so that you can see what we're
doing in real time.
And you've already heard about the success of our drug court,
which is now nationally recognized as a mentor drug court. There's
only eight of them in the entire country. And, basically, what the
federal government is saying is, go down to Collier County, learn
what they're doing, because what they're doing, they're doing well;
better than anyone. So we will be actually training others across the
nation on how to do this and do this well.
So, again, this is a partnership. This is collective impact tha t
we're mobilizing, and we couldn't do it without the support of the
Sheriff, the judiciary, human services, the county staff, County
Manager, and our County Commissioners. So we thank you so
much for your leadership and your support.
There's a number of successes that we've had across time, and
I'll be happy to present those to you. I was very encouraged to hear
we might have an opportunity in September or October or whenever
you decide for us to do another workshop specific on this issue.
We've made great advancements. We are making great
advancements each and every day.
And also, just really quickly -- and I know my time is very tight
here. I'm not going to go into too much depth, but related to
COVID. I know it's certainly something that's alre ady been
discussed and some of the mental health aspects of COVID, and it
was alluded to the terminology even of social distancing versus
physical distancing, and the reason that people are encouraging the
change in the language is because we don't want to socially isolate.
Social isolation is really leading to an increase in depression and
anxiety. You look at all of the data, all the research. These issues
are significant. So we want to maintain safety from physical
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distancing, but socially we want to stay very interconnected as much
as we possibly can.
So we moved -- everything's been -- I see your hand. I'm going
to --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: You really --
MR. BURGESS: Okay, sorry. Related to our services, we had
no service interruption. So all of our services, emergency services,
in-patient services, detox, 28-day program has maintained itself in
full functionality live with all the precautions. We've done well with
that, and we moved all of our outpatient support and
community-based support to virtual. We went from two clinicians
that were providing tele-virtual care to 100 clinicians in about two
weeks. So we've been able to swiftly adapt to this new normal, and
clients are receiving it well.
And I'm happy to answer any questions.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I was just going to thank Scott
again for the amazing job that David Lawrence Center does and that
you've done and specifically in terms of the creation of the strategic
plan. I mean, I still am amazed at the job that the committee was
able to do. A 19-member committee, I think it was.
MR. BURGESS: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I mean, it was a huge lift to get
done in one year, and you did it. Thanks to your leadership as the
chair of that committee and that -- what really, I think, is important
for everybody to know is that committee, although the advisory
committee was sunsetted because the plan was done, continues to
meet and will continue to work on these issues and provide feedback,
which we'll need. And I think the commitment of yourself and
everyone else to this process is really amazing. And I think it's
showing in, as Commissioner Taylor said, the conversations that
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we're having now. It's just changed the entire discussion on how we
deal with mental health.
So thanks for everything you continue to do and all of the
services that you provide to the community.
MR. BURGESS: Well, thank you for your leadership. And
the continuation of those -- the committee and the initiatives has
allowed success to happen. One quick example is that we had a
more successful homeless count this year. We were able to rally
some more support and really garner more accurately the number,
and now we're going to be able to see some additional resources
come this way. And it's been able to demonstrate to the VA that
they should be providing a little bit more support in our community
as well. So all of these things that we're working on really have
amazing ripple effects as well that we're going to continue to benefit
from as a county.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: And one last question, too. If you
do have more data on just the impact of what COVID-19 and, you
know, the distancing and all that has had in terms of the number of
requests for services and things, I'd really appreciate that, because
I -- it's good to keep up on that.
MR. BURGESS: Yeah. We'll provide that. We moved our
intake process to virtual as well. So before you had to physically
come on campus and fill out forms and go through your assessment .
We moved that to a fully digital platform as well. And just since
COVID started, we've engaged a thousand more individuals into
treatment just in the last about two-and-a-half months.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I made mention last fall with
regard to the homelessness in our veterans population and suggested
that we start -- that we then take some proactive steps by the end of
the year, and I know that that didn't, ultimately. I would like to, as
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we move into the final adoption, make sure that we have provisions
in place. Homelessness in that population is -- we all know and
understand that some of that population doesn't want to come in for
any kind of services. But every -- I want every effort to be made to
ensure that we are accommodating with regard to that, please.
MR. BURGESS: Absolutely. It's all working in conjunction.
We want to thank the county staff and the folks in human services for
their recommendation for a slight increase this year, and we're talking
with them and working actively on trying to garner those additional
grants that Steve talked about to bring in additional resources to the
community as well to help.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you very much.
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, we move ahead now with the
administrative services.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Wait. Could I ask a question of
Parks. I meant to do this before.
MR. OCHS: Sure. I'm sorry, Commissioner. Go ahead.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'm sorry. I didn't have my button
on. I didn't realize we were finished.
I just wanted to ask a couple questions. Just stay there, Steve.
It's not important.
At Eagle Lakes, I know we've been talking about building
something so the children can get inside. There's an empty room in
there, but the kids can't go to play summer games or anything
because it's -- they don't have storage units or anything like that.
And they've been talking about trying to get the kids in -- well, for
years, actually, for years, but I don't see anything on the budget about
that. Can you tell me about that?
MR. CARNELL: Yeah. What we have budgeted presently is
to engage a consultant to do some public outreach this fall, as people
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come back, and find out what they'd like to do with the space in the
community center. We do have a small footprint behind the existing
building where we can expand that community center, and we want
to get some public input.
There's probably enough room to put a small gymnasium back
there or something along those lines, but we want to get input as to
what the community would like, and we'll be engaging that process at
the beginning of the fiscal year.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: My purpose is, it's -- like, for
instance, once we built the swimming pool, everybody was saying,
oh, no kids even go to the park. Once you gave them something to
do, they flock in there, but they don't have anything else to do.
There's no games or anything to play. They can't get inside from
rain, lightning, nothing. And so -- there's an empty room, but that's
it.
And then go on to the East Naples Community Park, and that's
another thing. Now we're tearing down everything that the kids use
to play in, and there's no place for them to go.
And so you've got -- you've got a community full of kids.
We've got -- let's face it, we've got, what is it eight, nine -- I think
it's -- what is it -- elementary schools, we've got two middle schools,
and a high school, but there's -- we don't have -- we have very, very
few things for the kids to play in. It's nice that we're having all these
other parks, except they can't get there.
I'm just wondering when you're going to rebuild all the stuff
you're tearing out of East Naples Community Park for kids to go to.
Right now I know we're redesigning it for pickleball, and didn't I help
bring that thing in here, yes, but I never thought of sweeping the kids
out, you know. I'm hoping that you have a plan in place. Do you?
MR. CARNELL: Well, right now we're -- it's going to be
predicated in part on how the master plan moves forward for
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the -- what you mentioned a moment ago with pickleball. As we
make those changes, we'll be displacing, for example, the
playground, and we'll have to find another place for it. But right
now we don't need to do that until such time as we're into the master
plan implementation for their pickleball.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You see, the kids don't have a
playground in their backyard. They don't even have swing sets,
because we're talking about kids of very low income. I'm trying to
do something for them. And it's wonderful that all of the other parks
are getting these great things. What about these kids, you know?
And they don't have anything. I just think it's awful.
MR. CARNELL: Well, just to be clear, we have a playground
in East Naples Community Park that we'll be reopening shortly.
We'll talk about that on Tuesday.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I thought you were saying you
were tearing it down.
MR. CARNELL: Eventually, yes, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: What's eventually?
MR. CARNELL: Well, I don't have a date yet, and we don't
have funding for all of the master plan yet for pickleball, so we won't
be doing that until there's funding in future years, ma'am.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I see.
MR. CARNELL: All right. And we also have a playground at
Sugden Park, which is less than a mile away, and that park has been
refurbished in the past year. Those are going to continue to operate.
In fact, Sugden has already reopened.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Of course, at Sugden you can't go
inside because there's no place for the children to go inside, but -- and
they do have -- they do have a playground there, and that's it, you
know. No games or anything.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner McDaniel.
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. And maybe when we
come back in the fall -- because, again, these are all good points that
Commissioner Fiala is bringing up. We have master plans for all of
our parks, if I'm not mistaken.
MR. OCHS: Yes.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And I'm a minute concerned
about going and hiring a consultant to ask to pay them to tell us what
we already know we need. And so I would like -- and I know there
is a certain amount of consultation that is a requisite in everything
that we do. But I think a quick consultation with you r favorite
commissioner three away from me would help us with regard to that,
and maybe we can even have some discussion about hurricane shelter
dual-use facilities that are there for that expansion at the same time,
so...
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Taylor.
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Just one maybe final thing. I'm
not sure. But it is for me.
Do we have any data on number of children using the
playgrounds? Can we get some kind of data going forward over the
summer just so we can understand the use and what they're doing? I
know we took out -- they can't play soccer at East Naples anymore,
correct, but they can play it at Sugden, correct?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, no, no.
MR. CARNELL: Eagle Lakes.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: At Eagle Lakes. But there's
also -- I guess it's the school next door that has the field, correct?
MR. CARNELL: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And we're not -- we cannot use
that; the children cannot use that field, correct?
MR. CARNELL: No, that's correct.
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COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: But they do.
MR. CARNELL: Yeah.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. All right. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Thank you.
While the next group is coming up, we have the constitutional
officers scheduled for 1:00. Does the Board want to take a break at
noon for lunch?
MR. OCHS: Yes.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I haven't eaten in three days.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: What did you say?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I haven't eaten in three days.
I'm joking.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Good morning. Let's see if we
can get through as much of this as possible and --
MR. OCHS: Yes, sir. Go ahead.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: -- between now and noon.
ADMINISTRATRIVE SERVICES
MS. PRICE: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Good morning.
MS. PRICE: For the record, Len Price, Administrative
Services Department head. And a great man once told me, be
brilliant, be brief, and be gone. And, certainly, I do not want my
budget to stand between you and lunch, so...
COMMISSIONER FIALA: That's good.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: We'll remember.
MS. PRICE: With all of that said, let me just say that the
budget that we've presented you, I believe, will allow us to continue
to provide the same high level support you've gotten accustomed to,
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and there are a few projects that we have underway that we expect to
be able to get accomplished during the next fiscal year.
Obviously, our focus over the last three months has been almost
exclusively on COVID reaction response, taking care of our people,
taking care of the community, and moving forward. We're taking
that and working it into our hurricane planning.
So, you know, we'll give you a briefing at your final board
meeting to just let you know exactly where we stand with that, but we
have been working very closely with the state, with FEMA on the
guidelines to follow for hurricane sheltering, should it be necessary,
under a COVID environment. The school district has been
incredibly cooperative, and we've got -- you know, we've got a lot of
planning underway, and that's really the focus right now is how do
we integrate those two concepts.
With that said, there's been no interruptions to our services.
We're very pleased to be able to support the staff with everything that
they needed to improve our remote and virtual capability. As you
see, you know, the remote participation that we've had with our
various meetings, we were able to adapt to that very quickly and
really just be able to move into this new normal, I feel very cliché in
saying, but it's where we are right now.
So unless there are any other questions, I'm here to provide what
you need.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Just a comment.
Indeed, it's remarkable where we were when Zoom was a word
that we didn't understand less than a year ago into where it has
become what we do here with webinars, and your staff has made my
life so simple. Always, when I've needed something, you're right
there. So congratulations, and thank you for your support system.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Any other questions? I don't see
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anybody's light on, so thank you.
MR. OCHS: Thank you, Len.
MS. PRICE: Record?
MR. OCHS: Very good.
PULIC UTILITIES
Mr. Chairman, that brings us now to your Public Utilities
Department.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Good morning, and no mustache.
When did that happen?
DR. YILMAZ: New look, sir.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: You're defining yourself from
your staff, correct?
DR. YILMAZ: Good morning, Commissioners. George
Yilmaz, for the record.
In Fiscal Year '21, the water/sewer district plans to produce
9.8 billion gallons of quality safe water, treat 7.7 billion gallons of
wastewater, and turn it into at least 5.3 billion gallons of
irrigation-quality water that will recharge our aquifer systems,
especially on coastal zone. And we have a saying: Every day it
rains in Collier County.
Tremendous work by our utility folks and crews 24/7/365. I
just want to take this opportunity to thank them on behalf of our
leadership and our governing board; that they are all listening and
tuning in, 600 strong including our temporaries, never stopped
producing water, collecting wastewater, and providing essential
services as if normal did not change. We continue to operate with
normal as it was.
Our department will provide 13.6 million curbside collections
under our Solid Waste Management leadership. That's about 44,000
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collections a day. We touch our customers and your constituent s
45,000 average every day, and they are very personal about their
recycling cans and very personal about their garbage cans. And our
goal is none of that as a complaint escalates to my bosses, Deputy
County Manager, County Manager, ultimately, our governing board
and Board of County Commissioners.
I'm pleased to report our Solid Waste Department worked above
and beyond during pandemic. We opened our recycling centers, at
least two locations, Mondays where we were closed. So we end up
with providing additional services with same resources during
pandemic because of the fact that our customer base needed those
services.
Moving along, our department maintains 4.9 million square feet
of space including constitutionals in compliance with ADA, OSHA,
indoor air quality more and more requirements and security in
government facilities.
Outstanding and diligent work by our facilities team. They
stepped up. These challenging, trying times was the ground zero for
our Facilities Division. I just want to put that emphasis and
thank -- your team in Facilities have done outstanding, exceptional
job keeping our workplace safe, responsive, and making sure that
continuation of operations as directed by our County Manager and
Deputy County Manager did happen.
I'm also pleased to report that during pandemic, we received two
prestigious awards, which we shared with our leadership. And under
the current challenging conditions, we have continued to provide
life-sustaining essential services to our customers, again, as if our
normal did not change and will not change. We continued to operate
as we have done 24/7/365 provide life -sustaining service working for
you through our County Manager and Deputy County Manager
serving our customers with full customer focus.
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With that, I have one of the best finance directors we can have in
this county, Joe, with me.
If you have any questions, he's ready to answer it, and that ends
our short script presentation, and Joe has about less than 4.3-minutes
presentation; however, I'll leave it up to Board. If you have any
questions, we'll go there, or presentation we can make.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Does anybody have
any questions?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I do for you, Dr. Yilmaz.
DR. YILMAZ: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: If you would please,
just -- because I was trying to take notes. And if you would
highlight the highlights, email those highlights to me with regard to
water and sewer collections, produced water, so on and so forth, solid
waste, again, collections the statistical -- those highlighted numbers,
that would be -- I would really appreciate that.
DR. YILMAZ: Ten-four. Consider it done.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: You whipped through those,
and I wasn't able to get them all down.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. If there are no
questions, does anyone on the Board need any further information, or
should we move on?
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: I was just going to point out that as
I'm looking at this, you're actually a little under the target budget,
right?
DR. YILMAZ: We are in compliance with overall budget
requirements set by the Board.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Yeah.
DR. YILMAZ: And, Commissioner, your overall assessment is
right and, yes, we're doing -- we're doing with same, as much as
possible, more. I don't have to have the challenge, however, from
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the Board to do less with more, so that will be challenging.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: No, no, no. I don't mean it that
way. I just wanted to point out that that's -- with everything that the
Utilities Department does, that's a great job. Well done.
DR. YILMAZ: Thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Gentlemen, thank you.
Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah. Just one quick thing.
We're moving into hurricane season. I don't know if you're going to
be before us in the next two meetings, but just give us a rundown of
how things have changed for generators since Irma to now as we're
moving into the summer.
DR. YILMAZ: Thank you, ma'am. We're positioned to
manage Cat 4 and Cat 5 dry storm much better than we have done
Wilma, Irma. And we are positioned to bring additional assets from
contractual services where we need it as needed.
So to answer your question, sure, we are ready for Cat 4. Cat 5
has different variables that we may never be ready for, depending on
conditions. However, I can tell you that we are ready for Cat 4
direct hit.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you very much.
DR YILMAZ: Thank you.
MANAGEMENT OFFICES
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, we move to your management
offices for a brief presentation. Mr. Dorrill and Mr. Callahan.
MR. CALLAHAN: Good morning, Commissioners. For the
record, Sean Callahan, executive director of corporate business
operations.
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Good morning.
MR. CALLAHAN: Happy to tell you this morning that overall
your management offices are operating within the -- are in
compliance with the FY '21 budget that you've set forth. We've
remained flexible to respond to the ongoing challenges that
COVID-19's presented, and we've continued to restructure and
centralize some of our different operations to get more leverage out
of all of the tools that we have across the spectrum.
In your -- just briefly I'll touch on a couple of different points
that I think are important today.
Your FY '21 budget takes into account the ongoing downturn in
collections of tourist development taxes. We've adjusted this current
fiscal year down about 30 percent, and we're projecting that the
budget's going to be down about 12 percent next year. We've been
monitoring this on a weekly basis with as real-time data as we can
and working with our budget staff, have been making adjustments
and projections since March. We see no further adjustments that are
needed at this time.
The good news is your TDC capital funds have significant
reserves that will allow us manage beach renourishment and beach
park projects going forward. And when the time's right, we will
bring forward an emergency plan for recovery from this pandemic for
our tourism division.
Happy to say that we're opening a world-class sports and special
events complex next month. Given the support that we've had from
this board, we look forward to welcoming you-all out there. After
that's opened next month, construction will continue for future phases
of that complex, and we're generating a lot of interest. Our staff's on
board, our contract operator's on board, and we're ready to mov e
forward.
In your Bayshore CRA and MSTU, we are tracking the closing
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on one of their catalyst properties this year. We're very excited
about the structure of different capital projects that will enable us to
execute for the remainder of this year and moving into FY '21.
Your Bayshore MSTU has a construction project underway on
Thomasson Drive right now, and we will continue that project on
Hamilton Avenue in the next fiscal year in a partnership with our
Parks and Recreation Department to increase the pa rking that's
available for boat trailers at Bayview Park.
The Immokalee CRA and MSTU, we have a redevelopment plan
update slated for FY '21. We have significant reserves there that
we're looking forward to doing some different planning activities that
will allow us to take advantage of some of the different federal grant
opportunities that we see coming down the line, and I'm happy to say
in your FY '21 budget it does include an $836,000 project that we've
done in concert with CDBG funds out in Immokalee that's been long
awaited by that community.
Your Corporate Compliance and Internal Review Division has
gone through and set a baseline of internal controls to ensure that we
have risk-based compliance across the agency, and we'll continue to
refine those at a high level to make sure that we're meeting the
different objectives that are set forth by the Board.
In an economic development, happy to say that we have a
multitude of new initiatives that we've been working on and we'll be
bringing forth in the new coming year.
The culinary accelerator has seen an uptick in interest given the
ongoing COVID-19 pandemic as restaurants begin to try to refocus
and relaunch some of their different operations. And the different
innovation zones will have zoning overlays that are associated being
brought in the fall that we're very excited about turning those over
and getting those going with some different development activities in
there.
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So with that, I'll turn it over to Mr. Dorrill and see if he wants to
make any comments about the Pelican Bay budget.
MR. DORRILL: Very briefly. Good morning,
Commissioners. As you know, we are primarily a public works and
conservation stewardship entity managing almost three million
square feet of horticultural landscape areas in Pelican Bay as it relates
to the budget. Our non-ad valorem assessment will actually decrease
next year, taking advantage of some undesignated fund balance that
will be spent, in addition to, and as a result of your generosity last
year, to participate with us through a contribution in aid of
construction of $6 million worth of new pedestrian pathways in the
community. I want to thank you for that as well.
And then as it relates to the conservation areas, you actually own
in fee simple interest one of the most unique conservation areas and
the smallest natural inlets on the entire west coast of Florida in Clam
Pass. You hold the deed. And I think that this board has done a
very good job as it pertains to stewardship in that regard. This is a
very environmentally sensitive community.
One final thought: We will be under new leadership next year.
We have a new chairman in Michael Fogg. Michael Fogg is a fairly
new member and resident and a member of the golf course, which is
important. I think they've been underrepresented in the past. He
comes to us from corporate America with a background in accounting
and finance and is very talented. We want to thank publicly Scott
Streckenbein for the past two years of his leadership.
And then also with me today and in the back of room with the
Nick Casalanguida haircut is Chad Coleman. Chad Coleman is the
new operations manager. If you can let me brag on him j ust for a
second. He's a Collier County kid and a product of the Collier
County public school system, having graduated from Gulf Coast
High School, who married his high school sweetheart, who was
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adorable and a cheerleader there, but who enrolled following
graduation in defense of America following the attack on 9/11. He's
a marine. He is an accomplished and recognized combat veteran
with four tours of duty in both Afghanistan and Iraq.
I look forward to your working with him further. This young
man comes to us from a fairly long career with CenturyLink. We're
delighted to have him. He has not only the skill sets but, frankly, a
sense of urgency that has been a breath of fresh air there.
I'd be happy to answer any other questions that you might have.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: And his experience in Iraq I'm
sure will prepare him for public service.
MR. DORRILL: Advisory board meetings at Pelican Bay
Services.
MR. OCHS: From Pelican Bay, yes.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: No question.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: He's agreeing.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Battle tested.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I don't see anybody's lights lit up,
so thank you very much, and congratulations on the new person
working with you.
MR. CALLAHAN: Thanks, Commissioners.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Roll tide.
COUNTY ATTORNEY
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, that takes us to the County
Attorney.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: And, Mr. Solis, just a couple
minutes before 12:00 I'm going to need to step out.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: At that point, if you could just
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take over.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Sure.
MR. KLATZKOW: Commissioners, I'd like to really thank the
County Manager, Nick, entire County Manager's staff, they're a
pleasure to work with. They're as good a public service as you could
possible have, and it's an absolute pleasure every day to work with
them. It's a pleasure to work with this board.
Our budget's essentially flat from last year, and I would ask the
Board to approve it.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Is there a motion to defund the
County Attorney's Office?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: All in favor, say aye.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I'm not sure how much of a
savings we could find.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I don't know. You attorneys,
you know how to -- you know how to sharpen your pencils and cross
things out.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Any questions for the County
Attorney?
MR. OCHS: Couldn't make it without him. That's all I've got
to say.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you for your service as
well. All right.
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND DEBT SERVICE
MR. ISACKSON: Commissioners, I'll make a couple of
comments on your Board budget and also on debt services, and then
I'll take any questions you might have.
The Board budget's in compliance when you strip out the
contributions of the Naples CRA. That brought you out of
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compliance, but you really have nothing to do with that, nor do you
have any control over that.
So on the debt service side, the County Manager in his
presentation had a couple of slides from there. I think we're
positioned nicely on a debt service side. We are working on plans,
working with the departments, making sure that engineering studies
are brought forth so that adequate planning is available before we go
to market on some of these issues. You'll be the first to know when
we're ready to go. We'll bring that back before you. But the budget
will be done -- will be amended at the appropriate point in time when
debt service will be recommended.
So that's all I've got with debt service and with the Board unless
there's any questions.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I don't see any.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: No.
MR. OCHS: That wraps up the morning, sir.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Oh, okay.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: We're all going to leave a
little bit before noon.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yeah. So we'll reconvene at
1:00; is that the plan?
MR. OCHS: For the constitutional officers, yes, sir.
And no other registered speakers?
MR. CASALANGUIDA: No, sir, not yet.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Then we will be in
recess until 1:00.
(A luncheon recess was had from 11:48 a.m. to 1:00 p.m.)
MR. OCHS: You have a live mic, sir.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: The budget workshop will come
back to order. Good afternoon.
MR. OCHS: Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman. We're moving
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on to budget reviews for your constitutional officer agencies
beginning with your Supervisor of Elections.
Ms. Edwards.
SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS
MS. EDWARDS: Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone.
For the record, my name is Jennifer Edwards. I am very proud to be
the Collier County Supervisor of Elections.
And I'm going to begin by telling you how much our budget is
for the new year. It is 4,216,400. It has decreased about $3 00,000
over the current year budget, and that's because the current year
budget has two elections in it, and the new budget will only have the
November general in it.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You know what, say that last thing
again.
MS. EDWARDS: I'm going to take this off if that's okay.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Thank you.
MS. EDWARDS: The current budget we're working under has
both the March presidential preference primary and the August
primary in it, and the new budget will only have the November
general election in it. That's why there's a little decrease in the
amount.
We have budgeted for one new position. That will take us from
23 to 24 positions. We've budgeted for that for the new government
center that's being planned for Heritage Bay, and we will on ly fill that
position when the facility is ready and we need the position.
What we do is we rotate our customer service staff one week at
a time to the satellite offices, so Orange Blossom, and we'll do the
same thing for Heritage Bay.
And the other thing that I want to share with you is in the 301
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fund we have $550,000 that will -- we will be using to purchase a
new mail sorting piece of equipment. And we've planned that for
several years.
That concludes my comments.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Any questions,
comments from the Commission? I don't see any, so we will see
you --
MS. EDWARDS: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: We'll see you in September when
we start doing the final approvals.
MS. EDWARDS: Okay. Thank you for your support.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you. Oh, we do
have -- I'm sorry, Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: It's not a question, but you gave
it so eloquently to me the other day. Tell me what the deadlines are,
mail ballot, the whole spiel.
MS. EDWARDS: Okay. We have -- for the primary election,
which is August the 18th, we will be closing the books, and what that
means is if someone wants to vote in the August 18th primary, they
have to be registered to vote by July 20th. If someone wants to
change their party to vote in the primary -- we are a closed primary
state -- then they must change their party by July 20th.
Also, vote-by-mail requests need to be into our office by 5:00 on
August the 8th. That's a state mandate.
And then we will begin early voting at nine locations, the same
nine locations we have used for several election cycles. We will
begin on August the 8th through the 15th, and we'll begin at 10:00 in
the morning and go through 6:00 in the evening.
And then, of course, we have Election Day on August the 18th,
and the polls will be open from 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And you can bring your mail
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ballot into the early voting place?
MS. EDWARDS: Yes, ma'am. Yes. There was a change by
the legislature a few years ago that mandates we accept mail ballots
at the early voting locations. We have purchased some very sturdy
ballot boxes, and they are manned at each of our early voting
locations.
And in addition, we have a very sturdy box in front of our front
door at the 3750 Exchange Avenue, and we will be emptying that in
the morning and in the evening where people can just drive up, jump
out of the car, and drop it in that box instead of coming into the
office, if they choose.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: And so the mail ballot dropped
off, the last date is August the 8th for a mail ballot to be mailed into
the office?
MS. EDWARDS: No. That's the last day that someone -- that
a voter can request we mail one to them.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay, good.
MS. EDWARDS: We have some significant requests. We
have about 74,000 requests now, and so it's increased.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: What is that percentage? Is that
about 50, 60 percent or --
MS. EDWARDS: It's about 40 percent, and we anticipate a
50 percent.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Fifty percent.
MS. EDWARDS: We've got 210,000 registered voters, so
we've got almost 75,000 requests right now.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Have you --
MS. EDWARDS: But we know it will go up.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Have you noticed or ever
experienced any particular problems with mail-in ballots? Any fraud
or anything of that nature?
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MS. EDWARDS: No, sir.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. And are you promoting
more vote-by-mail participation?
MS. EDWARDS: We sure are. We sure are.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: How we doing with your
COVID -- with your workers, poll workers with COVID?
MS. EDWARDS: We have a few that have said, don't want to
risk it. As you all know, in a primary election, we have low tu rnout.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: You have all the what?
MS. EDWARDS: Low turnout. Not many people want to get
out and vote in a primary election. So between the increase in mail
ballot requests and then we have a low turnout in a primary, we feel
that we're going to be okay for the August 18th primary. But now
moving forward to the general election may be another question.
We just have to wait and see.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Thank you very much.
MS. EDWARDS: Thank you-all. Thank you again for all
your support.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Good afternoon.
CLERK OF COURTS
MS. KINZEL: Good afternoon, Commissioners. For the
record, Crystal Kinzel, your Clerk of Courts. And I have with me
Derek Johnssen who's the finance director for the Clerk's Office.
MR. JOHNSSEN: Good afternoon.
MS. KINZEL: I have had some conversations with you all, and
I just wanted to say the budget that we have submitted was obviously
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prepared pre-COVID. We're willing to work with the Board over
the summer. We'll see what the revenues are. We're flexible.
I know there was some inquiry about the 5.7 positions. Those
are, again, for the satellite expansions. But I understand those might
be delayed and put off as well as a couple of positions in accounting.
We have an implementation of governmental accounting standards,
Pronouncement 87, due by next year, so we were looking for some
help with that implementation; it's mandatory. So -- but I'm willing
to discuss any of those expanded positions as we progress through the
summer and see where we go economically, because we do
appreciate that it may well be a tight year in a lot of the revenues that
come forward. So we just appreciate it, and we're here to answer
any other questions.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Are there any questions
from the Commission?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I don't see any, so...
MS. KINZEL: Thank you, and we'll just keep working with
you when we see what the revenues bring.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner Solis.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: So I'm just thinking logistically
here. I mean, if this was a pre-COVID budget, then how do
we -- you know, if we -- if we budget now for the 5.7 added FTEs, I
mean, I'd rather probably do it the other way. I mean --
MS. KINZEL: You can always go down in your budget at the
hearings in September, but you can't go back up if we're doing well
and we see that things will be constructed before that. So I would
appreciate if we could work through the summer and see where we
are at the budget hearings.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: How about, Mr. Manager, what's --
MR. OCHS: Well, the latest estimate we have on the
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construction of the Heritage Bay satellite center is that it most likely
won't open until November of next year, which would put you into
your Fiscal Year '22 budget.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Right.
MR. OCHS: So you might want to take that into consideration,
both Ms. Edwards and Ms. Kinzel's expandeds, at least related to the
opening of that new satellite facility.
MS. KINZEL: That would be two positions, but they also do
require training, so...
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: And when we get back in here in
September to do the final budgets. We'll have at least two budget
hearings --
MR. OCHS: Yes.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: -- that are required, and at that
time we'll have a better understanding of what the revenues are going
to look like because the economy will be fully opened at that point,
and we'll be able to at least start to see some trends. And if we need
to anticipate reduced revenues and need to cut budgets, we'll have
plenty of time to do that in September.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: My question was really about the
Heritage Bay. I mean, if these FTEs aren't going to be needed u ntil
the twenty twenty --
MR. OCHS: Two.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: -- two budget, my question is,
would we include them in this budget if they're not --
MS. KINZEL: We were originally told midsummer of 2021.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Right. No. Understood.
MS. KINZEL: That's why I said we'll remain flexible on those,
because if it isn't open, we wouldn't need to hire them.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. The logistics of this are
such that you're going to have an executive summary or two coming
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before you regarding Heritage Bay. At that point in time, whenever
the timing of that is, if the Board feels to entertain the additional
bodies necessary to staff that through the Clerk of Courts or through
the Supervisor of Elections, you simply do a budget amendment and
you give them more money. That's simple.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: That was my question.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay.
MR. ISACKSON: That can easily be done.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay. So that -- that was my
suggestion, then. So rather than include them and then take them
out, I think -- as Mr. Isackson is saying, I think we should plan on not
needing them, and then if they're needed, we can always do an
amendment. That's -- that's the flexibility that's built into our
budgeting process.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Any problems with that?
MS. KINZEL: No. Just that the taxes, if you assess a certain
millage plus or minus, but I think you've got enough in reserves and
other funding that that would be available.
MR. ISACKSON: You don't need to worry about that. When
Heritage Bay opens up, my guess is there's going to be a whole flurry
of fiscal impacts connected with that.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Sure. Sure. Okay.
MS. KINZEL: And we're fine with that. We'll work with you
on those.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Good catch.
Anything else?
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I do have one question. With
this -- this auditing process you're preparing for that's
governmental --
MS. KINZEL: The inspector general? We've actually reduced
the budget for internal audit by one position that we have devoted
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over to the Courts. So the budget that is before you is actually less
than last year for the internal audit function.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: But what you're preparing for
that's supposed to happen next year, you mentioned that you want ed
to hire somebody for that.
MS. KINZEL: No, not for the inspector generals, no.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: I don't know if it was that.
MS. KINZEL: Oh, the computers, SAP implementation? We
are going to be looking at the SAP conversion with the systems to
implement some of the payroll, employee self-service, and
integration. We've been working on that with your staff and the
committee countywide. That would be a countywide
implementation. And one of the positions that we have in
accounting would be to oversee and assist with that implementation
countywide.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Okay. All right.
MS. KINZEL: Yeah, that's that one.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yeah. I just wanted to
maybe address what Commissioner Solis was talking about. I mean,
this is -- because you've got five-plus-or-minus new FTEs included in
this.
MS. KINZEL: Yes.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And then what I heard was
that after more information is coming with regard to openings up of
Heritage Bay and so on and so forth, that those potentially could be
moved out.
MS. KINZEL: Two of those are in relation to Heritage Bay.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: So plan on them now and
then take them out if they're not necessary --
(Simultaneous crosstalk.)
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- in the September. I mean,
because today we're just -- we're actually looking what the Clerk is
proposing. We're not approving or doing anything other than
hearing what's going on. But those can be removed in the
September hearing.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I think --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: That's what she's asking.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: That's right, but I was saying that
let's -- I was suggesting that we do it the other way because we know,
at least we're being told now, that the Heritage Bay, if it opens, won't
be until the 2022 budget.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Right.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Those won't be needed, so why --
MS. KINZEL: Two of them. We're fine.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: You need two [sic]. So let's just
reduce her -- that request to two new positions.
MS. KINZEL: That's new information. We were told mid
next year.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Okay.
MS. KINZEL: If it's moving into the subsequent year, I have
no problem removing those two. And if it moves up in between, we
can come back to you and let you know where we are at that point.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: So you have 3.7 going forward.
Okay.
MS. KINZEL: That .7's critical, but -- no, that's an allocation
between the courts and the non-court.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay.
MS. KINZEL: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Seeing nothing else, thank you
very much.
MS. KINZEL: And it is good to work with everyone, so I did
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want to put that forward.
I know there's some facilities issues coming up that you've
addressed earlier this morning, and we've worked also with the courts
on the whole COVID, so that's been a switch. They did tell us today
we'll probably be going back to some jury trials, though, by July, so
that will be great for our court side of the operations. So I did want
to let the public know that.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Thank you.
MS. KINZEL: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Zoom trial -- do a Zoom
meeting with jury trial.
COMMISSIONER SOLIS: Zoom trial.
SHERIFF’S OFFICE
MR. OCHS: Mr. Chairman, the Sheriff's Office is next.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Sheriff, good afternoon.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Good afternoon, everybody. Kevin
Rambosk, Collier County Sheriff.
As in the past, I want to thank you for the opportunity to be here
today and provide you a little update as to what we've been doing,
even though I've been able to meet with you on a pretty regular basis
over the last several months.
But I certainly, on behalf of the Sheriff's Office, want to thank
you, the County Manager, and all of the county staff for assisting us,
supporting us, you particularly, enabling us to provide the necessary
public-safety services that our community expects and helps keep us
safe in the quality of life at the level that we want.
You know, as we look around, it's really the responsibility of
each of us to make sure that there is respect, fairness, and equality in
everything that we do in a community. And I will tell you, and you
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already know it, we've been doing that as a community for quite
some time. Certainly, at least the last decade that I've been with you
in this position, and even longer than that.
And when you look at public safety and you look at particularly
our mission, which is to preserve and protect those of our residents,
their lives, their property and, most importantly, their constitutional
guarantees, that is what the basis of today's public safety is and as
well into the future.
So, you know, I want to thank the men and women of the Collier
County Sheriff's Office for doing an outstanding job. I want to
thank our executive team, our command staff. And, you know, most
years I bring the executive team with us, and you have a chance -- I
have a chance to thank each of them here in front of you and the
public, but because of the restraints of space, they are unable to
come.
But I want to thank them whether they are here or not, because
each member of this agency, and particularly the people I work with
on a daily basis, our executive staff, our colonel, our chiefs, our -- all
of our members, our directors, they are the ones that allow us to
continue to provide the level and quality of service that we all want in
our community, so -- but they can't be here.
We've worked together for many years with the public but, you
know, I thought about what we would do as far as highlights, and
since I have been here the last couple of months giving you updates,
over the 12 -- last 12 months, six of those have been with special
events, let's call them, that we've had to deal with.
So, you know, rather than that, I'd like to do a couple of
highlights from each of our departments: Administration,
corrections, operations, community engagement, and investigations.
But I'd like to talk a little bit about where we have come over the
years to build the community that we've got, because I think it's very
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relative to what our residents are interested to hear today in today's
environment. I know you know them all because we've had a chance
to brief you, but I'd like to do that.
But, you know, to start off with, we have a very strong volunteer
organization as part of the Sheriff's Office. And, in fact, they have
contributed this year 24,000 hours over and above. Those are our
residents that participate as volunteers in our organization from every
walk of life, every cultural background, and they assist us in
everything that we do to make the best organization that we can be.
We -- this year our victims services and victims senior advocacy
group was nationally recognized by the Organization for Victim
Assistance. That is truly a great accomplishment.
We continue to build positive relationships with our young
people. We have done that for more than 35 years now. As you all
know, that was put in place to develop those relationships and build a
stronger community and make sure our young people are comfortable
with law enforcement and public safety, and we've had a terrific time
at doing that. You've been very supportive.
We've had our tragic events throughout the nation over the last
30 years, the last being in Parkland. We will never forget that. We
meet and exceed all the requirements for the Marjory Stoneman
Douglas Act, again, with your specific support to make sure that we
not only work together with our young people for the future, mentor
them, direct them, guide them, but we also safeguard them each and
every day and in every single school building in Collier County, and
we appreciate that.
We certainly are awaiting new schedules for this year. I know
that the superintendent and her staff are working diligently trying to
figure out how they cover and meet the CDC's requirements. That
certainly has the potential to impact our staffing.
So we are going to get it done no matter what it takes. If I have
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to come back and brief you as to what that will take, I will do that,
but my goal at this point -- our goal is to accomplish that within the
budget you are providing us. So we thank you for that.
We have had some use supporting fire rescue this year already
with the wildfires. Our Huey helicopter has been able to be used in
dropping 340 buckets of water on fires that were trying to get out of
control. And our Fire Rescue Service and EMS, they do a fabulous
job. They are a great partner with us. They did a lot of work there.
And we are always proud to help with our equipment to get them the
necessary help that they can get.
But I will tell you, this is probably one of the best investments
that we have ever made in this community from a wildfire
perspective.
I might mention that all of our aircraft, which is surplus, is
aging. There is no more or little replacement parts, and we need to
be thinking in the future of replacing some of that, and even
including the capability to drop water and make rescue. But other
than the Huey, all we have, really, is an observation platform, and we
know how the Huey has moved forward there.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner McDaniel.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Go ahead.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: And I want to say,
personally, thank you. If any of you are interested, I have video of
that Huey diving into the smoke of a fire that was a half mile to the
west of my home with winds blowing out of the west coming my
way, and that --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: And they had an opportunity
to -- they blew it. They didn't let the fire take its course?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Take out my house? No,
correct.
And I just wanted to say, you know, there again, there was a lot
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of -- there was a lot of discussion about the validity of that
acquisition. I have talked to North Collier -- both of our Fire
Departments, the Forestry Department. This apparatus has allowed
virtually instantaneous service to our community.
The Forestry Department has a Huey, but it stays over in
Okeechobee somewhere. It's an hour away. And this -- that -- there
was a 40-foot wall of fire coming across, and it was just amazing. I
have some really cool little videos. And I'm sitting on the berm over
by the orange grove watching it all come down.
And so from me to you, thank you. And it was hugely
instrumental in our fires that we had in Golden Gate Estates, though
we did suffer considerable loss there. But it actually helped us
manage that to be not as great a catastrophe as what it could have, in
fact, been. So thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Very good.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: One of the other areas that we have
invested a lot of time, and you have as well and Commissioner Solis,
was mental health. Working together with yourselves, the courts,
the David Lawrence Center. You know, if we think back, we really
made a significant investment starting about 11, 12 years ago, and it's
taken us that long to create an environment in this community where
we have over 1,100 40-hour Memphis-model-trained law
enforcement officers, corrections officers, and civilians, because we
are now, today, involving civilians, our community service personnel,
along with hiring -- we've hired one clinician.
I've talked to Scott Burgess. We're about to hire a second
clinician who have formed teams that, when appropriate, can respond
into the community, and they do today already. We've been doing
this for the last two years to help those that need it. If they're in
crisis, get them to a location that can help them. If they -- if there's
more violence involved, obviously, we take a little different
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approach, but we continue to look at what's occurring around the
nation with structures that will get people to the right help that they
need.
And, of course, it then doesn't impact the jail either where
members of our community with mental health crisis should not be,
and so we continue to work on that. We appreciate all your support
there and working towards moving forward.
We are a nationally and state-accredited organization. I won't
go into all of them, but I can tell you that every professional element
of Sheriff's Office is accredited from the communications to road
patrol. As you know, that requires us to engage in best standards
and practices, and we are audited with visits on site to make sure that
we not only have the policy and procedure, but we're acting in
accordance with our procedures. And that is one of the things that
people are looking at today to make sure that law enforcement and
public-safety agencies are using best practices.
We have been doing that. We have been doing that for many
years. And we are accredited with the gold standard from CALEA,
and that is a national accrediting organization.
That also allows us to, on a regular basis, review our policies
and procedures, look at world and national events, and change them
when we believe that they need to be changed. And I've made a
number of those changes in the last month to make sure, even though
we were doing some of them or we had them in our code of ethics or
in other elements of policy, to very clearly delineate, for example,
that every law enforcement officer in the Collier County Sheriff's
Office has a duty to stop an act that is improper or incorrect or
unlawful. It's always been in our code of ethics, but we wanted to
make it extremely clear about what would and would not be tolerated
and what our duty is, because our duty is public safety and ensuring
that for our members.
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A couple of things I think are really important. We are
participating in trying to reduce substance abuse. We have for years
as a member of the Community Drug Response Team. We have
distributed Narcan and have save 251 lives in the last two years.
That's by your deputies in the stree t responding to emergency
medical calls, and that would not have been as successful if we were
unable to do that.
So we have participated in the Heart Safety Community that
Dr. Tober established more than 25 years ago. We've put AEDs in
every car, which we did not have 10 years ago. And we have had
350 deputies over that time, the last 10 years, that have been
recognized with lifesaving awards and recognition. Those
are -- those are our residents who, when delivered CPR and an AED
in less than 10 minutes due to the response time of deputies out in the
field, have increased the number of lives saved dramatically in and
throughout Collier County.
We have always participated in community engagement. You
know, we have 83 of our members that are, in some form or fashion,
whether a board member, which is what they mostly are, or
partnershipped with non-profit boards, committees, like the United
Way, the David Lawrence Center, the Make a Wish Fountain, that 41
local non-profit organizations that we work together with. We are a
part of this community, and we have been one for a long time. And
that's what helps to make the difference in Collier County.
We are part of the Building Bridges Program where the county
staff and we went to Washington, D.C., to lo ok at how we could
intervene with opioid problems that are going to jail and not go to jail
but go to a treatment center. Again, to save lives and save money.
And there are only about a dozen organizations or so that are in there.
Our jail population has reduced significantly over the last 10
years. Again, saving money and getting people to the right treatment
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and the right place that they need to be, and that certainly is working
with the courts, the judges, and what we do each and every day.
So we continue to look at our philosophy of community safety
service. Service to others before self. That is the new direction of
21st century policing. And, quite frankly, we've been in it for a
dozen years, and we're making it better every day.
I open it up to you for questions.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. I don't see anybody
jumping in with any questions or any comments.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Mr. Chairman, you have a few
public speakers on the line.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Okay. Your first public speaker
will be Cyndy Nayer.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: And, Cyndy, you have three
minutes.
MS. NAYER: Hello.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Yes.
MS. NAYER: Good to see --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: You have three minutes.
MS. NAYER: Thank you very much.
I'm asking a question. I've looked at some of the data around
youth participation and youth -- not participation, but youth being
picked up, and some of the information is disturbing to me because it
shows an increase in pickups of children five to 12 years old.
My question to you is very direct. Can you help us understand
what kinds of problems these kids are having so that perhaps as a
community we could come together and help to solve this? Because
five- to 12-year-olds do not belong in jail.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: I don't know what you're looking at as
far as statistics. I can tell you --
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MS. NAYER: Okay.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: I can tell you we do not put
five-year-olds in jail. So if you could provide us that information,
I'd be happy to do that research and get it back to the Board and to
you, because we have programming, and particularly in the area that
you're interested in, we created a youth resource center for at-risk
children. That was about 10 years ago. And it's to help families,
particularly parents, and keep, again, our young people out of the
criminal justice system.
So if you could get us that information, we'd be happy to let you
know and let the Board know.
MS. NAYER: I will do that for you.
Thank you very much.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Thank you.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Mr. Chairman, one more speaker on
the phone, and I think we don't have anybody in the audience.
Michelle McCormick. And, Ms. McCormick, you have three
minutes.
MS. McCORMICK: Yes. Hi. This is Michelle Eddleman
McCormick. And with these brief three minutes, I will focus my
comments on a couple specific areas of concern.
One, the lack of affordable housing funding with, previously,
what was about $200,000 in the budget, and then zero dollars for
housing grants, zero dollars for human services grants.
Another area of concern is the gross underfunding of the Public
Defender's Office in comparison to the State's Attorney's Office.
And in order for there to be a balanced justice system, this has to be
rectified. It can't be imbalanced.
Another area is the $2 million, only, that has been allocated for
impasse for the mental health services for the entire county, and that
appears to be in the form of direct support to just the David Lawrence
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Center.
Mental health services are a critical component of our health and
safety in our community, and the need is dire, and we need a first
responder's unit that can -- you know, specifically trained to address
911 calls that are related to people having an acute mental health
crisis.
And I heard Sheriff Rambosk, you know, comment about having
some specialized, you know, people on staff, but I've personally been
witness in the last two years alone to multiple cases where I've even
requested, isn't there a specialized unit that can deal with this, you
know, level of escalation? This level of force is unnecessary, and at
least one of those instances a very elderly woman was tackled to the
ground, and in every instance that I've borne witness to, they were all
taken into handcuffs in the back of a patrol car --
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Absolutely not.
MS. McCORMICK: -- rather than having their acute -- I've
witnessed it. I see you, Sheriff Rambosk, shaking your head, but I
stood there and witnessed it and spoke with the officers and pleaded
with them to handle things differently, but they didn't have the
training. It's not their area of expertise, which is why I'm saying that
we need an actual unit of mental professionals that can respond in a
crisis that is 24 hours a day, seven days a week. That having been
said, I realize what I said is an expensive proposition but,
nonetheless, it's necessary.
And another area that seems to never have, you know, a concern
with being too expensive is the Collier County Sheriff's Office.
We've got, you know, 16.5ish million dollars for school resource
officers, which is really a misnomer because it's an armed sheriff
deputy inside of a school rather than social workers and mental health
counselors that are desperately needed.
And, you know, it's almost entirely funded by the county, and so
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I feel like it's a gross misuse of resources. Statistically, we have
seen both nationally and in Florida the presence of armed officers in
schools results in the criminalization of children when law
enforcement is the first to respond to situations. They very readily
could have been handled differently.
The effect is what, you know, has become known as the
school-to-prison pipeline, which vastly disproportionately affects
children of color, particularly black boys and girl.
The other area of funding --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Ms. McCormick, I'm going to
need you to go ahead and wrap up, if you would.
MS. McLAUGHLIN: I will.
The domestic violence trust fund looks like it's just continuing to
accrue funds and roll over from one year to the next. My question
is, why have those funds not been used for their intended purpose
which is to provide training for response to domestic violence when
there's roughly $400,000 sitting in the budget that just continues to
roll over from one year to the next?
And, finally, since you're there, Sheriff Rambosk, end 287(g)
and stop using CCSO as hired mercenaries for ICE.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. Ms. McCormick, your
time is up. Thank you very much.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Mr. Chairman, no more speakers.
One more registered under public comment. That's it, sir.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Sheriff, I don't know if you want
to kind of respond in any way. And you don't have to, but this is a
good opportunity to talk a little bit about --
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: I think it's important that we let the
community know and reinforce that for 10 years we have embraced
mental health, how to redirect those in crisis and those in need. I've
been here many times with you. We are a part of your advisory
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group that are working on that together. I can tell you that we are
one of the only law enforcement agencies that have this many trained
40-hour Memphis-model CIT trained law enforcement officers, and if
you look at all of the cities involved, there are no other communities
like ours. That I can assure you.
So I believe we've made the investment. We've made more
than an investment. We've made a commitment, and we've done it
for the last 10 years, and it has absolutely proven to be positive
because we are getting people to where they need to be, to get the
help that they need to be, except in those situations where violence
has occurred.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Commissioner Taylor.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Yes. I think it would be
helpful for the Sheriff and for our County Manager to address the
issue of the guards that are now being put in the schools and the
increase of those personnel by the budget -- the Sheriff's budget. So
I think I'll turn it over to the County Manager, because I'm sure our
listeners heard your explanation this morning of what happened and
why this -- who made that decision? And the Sheriff can speak.
MR. OCHS: Sure, I'll just briefly begin and turn it over to the
sheriff.
But just by way of background, the legislature passed a law that
required all charter schools and public schools to have a public-safety
official in that school full time.
And the school district had a series of options on which they
could choose to fulfill that legislative obligation, and the one that
they selected was to have the sheriff deploy deputies in the school.
So, at that point, the Sheriff does what he always does, he acts
responsibly and expeditiously, and he fulfilled his obligations under
the statute, and that led us to where we are today, which is funding
the last tranche of resources that he needs to make that happen on a
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regular basis as part of his force deployment.
Sheriff?
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: The only thing I would add onto that is
school safety has certainly always been a part of the Youth Relations
Program, but it was started to positively interact with young people,
and that has been our philosophy from day one more than 35 years
ago, to help mentor, to answer questions, to develop relationships.
And you ask any one of our youth relations deputies that 20
years later the young people that went to the school they were
assigned, they come up to them and they talk to them, and those that
they've worked with let them know how much of a difference it made
in their lives.
So does there need to be safety and security in the school
system? Unfortunately, we know that 106 miles from here, from
right here, they needed more than they got, and we're not going to let
that happen here.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: I've interacted with several of the
school resource officers over the years, and recently as a matter of
fact, and they're all very dedicated.
And I genuinely believe that the teachers and the students really
appreciate having that presence there, because the most
important -- one of the most important things for kids is to -- when
they go into school, is to feel safe, and I think this gives them a little
sense of safety.
So I -- it's an expensive proposition, but I can tell you the worst
thing we could ever do is find out there was a school shooting in
Collier County, and we want to make sure that never happens, and
you're doing a great job to that.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: It's expensive, but it's necessary.
Commissioner Fiala?
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, thank you.
I get into the schools a lot. They're very nice. They let me
visit. Let me watch. I communicate with teachers and so forth.
No matter when I go into the schools, the deputy is around
someplace or another, and the kids are going up to the deputy. And,
number one, he earns their trust. Number two, if they see somebody
maybe having an instrument in school that could be dangerous, they
know that they can tell the deputy without getting in any trouble
themselves, and that is very, very important.
They also know they can go to the deputy if they're having
problems in their home that they don't -- they can't handle
themselves, and that is so important.
And I just want to tell you, you don't want to take that away
from these kids, because this helps them. Many of them come from
families where they don't see the parents very often. They're all
alone. And so it's so important to have somebody that -- an adult
that they can go that they trust.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay. Anything else?
Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Yes. First off, I want to say
thank you. The job that our Sheriff's Department does, it's -- to me,
personally, I believe it's the number-one duty of a local government
to provide for the safety of my families in neighborhoods, and you
have done that. If I'm not mistaken, we are number one in all 67
counties.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Well, we're not number one but, you
know, in all of what I presented to show where we are, I failed to tell
you that we lowered our crime rate again last year, and there are only
14 counties that have a lesser crime rate, but there are no
metropolitan counties in the state of Florida with a lesser crime rate
than we have.
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Thank you. It's important, I
think, that our folks know and understand just how blessed we are.
You shared something with me many, many years ago shortly after I
got elected, and it had to do with the mental illness and substance
abuse that's prevalent within our jail system.
And I just would like, if you would, please, just share a little
bit -- if you did say it during your presentation, I missed it. So if you
would, please, share the efforts -- the percentage of population that
we're dealing with in our jail system that are suffering from mental
illness and substance abuse and then the additional training and such
that you've done for our officers.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: You know, unfortunately, around the
nation jails become the largest mental facilities in a community. We
are no different in our community even with all the efforts that we do
have in place.
And they took a snapshot, and it's probably the information that
I gave to you, that at the time our inmate population was about 750,
and 480 had reported or been referred for mental health issues at all
different levels.
A hundred and twenty-six of those at that snapshot were on
psychotropic drugs. So when you look at the responsibility that we
have to ensure for their safety, we certainly don't have the ability for
treating them to get them to a place that they can return to their
community.
So we have put together reintegration programs. We've put
together overdose mapping to identify and intercede in potential areas
of the community that have drug problems. We have adopted a
policy whereby if you are addicted to drugs and you contact law
enforcement, whether you notify them in the jail or whether you
notify them in the street, and you tell us you want help, we do not
arrest you. In fact, we take you and deliver you to the David
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Lawrence Center who can help you get off drugs.
So all of that put together is one of the reasons why our jail
population is down, and our services for drug safety
rehabilitation -- and we don't do treatment, but we help in all those
areas.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Thank you, sir.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Thank you very much.
SHERIFF RAMBOSK: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Do we have another speaker?
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Not under the Sheriff. Two under
public comment.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Okay.
MR. OCHS: And we have arrived at public comment, sir, on
your agenda.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Very good. We have one on the
line. Mr. [sic] Callahan Soldavini.
MS. SOLDAVINI: Hello.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Would you state your name for the
record, and you have three minutes.
MS. SOLDAVINI: Thank you, Commissioners.
My name is Callahan Soldavini. I grew up in Naples watching
this community develop into what it is today.
I left to get a master's in human rights from Northwestern Law
and returned to my hometown to work as a public -interest attorney at
Legal Aid Service of Collier County.
Under a grant from the Florida Bar, I represent nonprofits
dedicated to serving low to moderate income communities in Collier
free of charge. As such, I see the astonishing work our nonprofits
achieve daily.
I would like to discuss a different Collier County, one which
strategically reallocates resources away from CCSO and towards our
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social service agencies we heard from this morning and various
nonprofit agencies. We pass every societal failure off on our police
officers to solve, and it's too much to ask of them.
Policing was never meant to solve all of our problems. Often
the police are ineffective and can cause ongoing violent disruption.
Have you ever hired someone to do a job and they made matters
worse? Well, police enforcement is often the same.
Our community organizations, with the proper funding, can be
the ones to relieve the burdens we put on CCSO. These
organizations are best equipped with boots-on-the-ground knowledge
as opposed to strangers armed with guns who likely do not live in the
communities they patrol.
Let's empower our mental health providers, social workers,
victim advocates, and religious leaders who make up the fabric of this
great community who are already doing this work but the appropriate
funding to do more effectively. To really fight crime in Collier, we
do not need more officers. We do need more jobs, affordable
housing, education, community centers, and mental health resources.
For example, mental health calls are 20 percent of the calls to
CCSO. My clients are dedicated to these causes as well as after
school programs, food pantries, restorative justice, veterans issues,
disaster relief, and more.
Each has a specific area of expertise it can handle, instead of
asking our police officers to try to understand each of these different
areas and appropriately solve them through a law enforcement
framework.
You may have noble intentions and think trends like implicit
bias training, police community listening sessions, and systems to
identify problematic officers are all we need, but we have half a
century's worth of evidence these reforms and the ones CCO [sic] has
referred to today are insufficient. Even with them, we watch as our
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county and country protest outrageous budgets and lack of
transparency and accountability.
You may think more policies will mean less violence, but police,
like everyone else, break the rules all the time. Turning off body
cameras, shoving the elderly on camera, arresting journalists and
peaceful protesters. We are Collier County, and we can make sure
we are better than that.
Commissioners, what would it look like if you had millions of
extra dollars to spend on Collier parks, housing, employment, and
education, especially after COVID-19? We have unprecedented
momentum to make this happen. When we look back at this
moment, will we look back with pride or disappointment. The
answer is within your power, Commissioners.
Thank you for your service. I yield my time.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you very much.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: Mr. Chairman, your last speaker is
here, Mr. Keith Flaugh. Mr. Flaugh, you have three minutes.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Good afternoon.
MR. FLAUGH: Good afternoon, Commissioners. Keith
Flaugh on Marco Island.
I just have two different comments. One, as you deal with your
budget issues in the shortfall from COVID, as you get money from
the federal government, please earmark that for helping the
businesses in our community rather than spending it in some other
way.
My second comment has to do with the budget item, I think it
was on Page 29 of your information put out, dealing with the Collier
SRO program. Every one of us has a God-given and Constitutional
right to defend our life. Gun-free zones are a magnet for disaster.
Based on extensive testimony by Sheriff Gualtieri, who was the head
of the Parkland Commission, to both the House and the Senate both
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last year and this year, it's very clear the Guardian Program with
trained teachers and administrators is a must, and you can listen to
him say that over and over again.
The average incident that involves multiple facilities -- fatalities,
excuse me, is less than a minute and 30 second. It's very unlikely
that an SRO is going to be in the right place at the right time on a
large campus to stop that.
In the last 20 years of 40 mass shootings, over half were stopped
by citizens and school personnel on the spot. Some, it cost them
their lives.
The Guardian Program requires 144 hours of training in specific
live-shooting situations, more than a new SRO gets.
Collier County School Board has an ideological bias against this
issue. You have a constitutional responsibility to allow each and
every citizen to defend their lives. Collier County School System,
by any measure, is bloated administratively. So don't allow them to
come to you and the taxpayer to violate the constitutional rights of
their employees and students.
Thank you.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Thank you.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: What's an SRO?
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: School resource officer.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: School resource officer. I'm
sorry, sir.
MR. CASALANGUIDA: No more speakers.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: We have no more speakers.
Anything else, Mr. Ochs?
MR. OCHS: Nothing else this afternoon, sir.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: All right. Any questions or
anything from the Commission, because we're ready to adjourn if
not?
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COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I got a --
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: We're an hour and four minutes
early.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Okay. I'll hit my button.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: Do you want to speak?
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: I do.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Commissioner McDaniel.
COMMISSIONER TAYLOR: We're now an hour and 20
minutes, really.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: An hour and -- oh, quit. I
won't go that long, I promise.
I just want to say one thing with regard to the traffic operations.
It's not science. It's not luck. It's having Harris on speed dial as
you're coming through town. He works over in traffic ops, and he
can make the lights go green when you need to go. Just so you
know.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: One, Harris, oh, yeah.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: Now, I'm not done. I'm not
done. Again, I waited till the end here just to say a few points, and
these are things I -- you know, we've had a lot of discussion about
different things, and I would really like -- I have some -- and I'm not
sure, County Manager, if I've given it to you yet. But I have a copy
of the merit pay resolution that Charlotte County has adopted for
their employees. And I don't know if I've gotten that to you yet or
not, but it would be something that I would like for -- it's something
that I've lobbied for, for quite some time as opposed to -- not that our
employees aren't worthy of raises and the like, but I'm a huge
advocate of incentive pay along the way, and merit pay is
something -- and Charlotte -- and every time I ask our County
Manager about something he says, well, who else -- well, Jeffrey asks
that. Well, who else is doing that? And so I actually have a
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resolution from Charlotte County that I would like to be explored,
and --
MR. OCHS: Sure.
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: -- see if it's something we can
integrate.
The landscape median item, budget item in the Fund 111, I'd
like to have a little bit more detail about that at some stage as to how
we're appropriating that. I know we at one time talked about the
discontinuance of the capital expenditures and the re-appropriation of
those funds over into the maintenance side, but the maintenance ha s
been ticking down. When we did that, the maintenance was running
$75,000 a linear mile, and I believe now it's down around 55,000.
So I'd just like to have us revisit that and then make a decision as a
group as to how and if and what we're going to do as far as
continuing on with that capital expenditure.
And last, but not least, and that has to do with the CARES
money. I concur with you, Mr. Chair, with regard to that, and I'd
like to see that appropriated to the community as much as is possible
on an as-needed basis and not just reimburse the government.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: There are significant restrictions --
COMMISSIONER McDANIEL: There are, yes.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: -- on that. And so I -- hopefully,
the manager will be able to give us some guidance as to how those
funds could be allocated into the community to help the people that
really need it.
MR. OCHS: Yes. If you take a look at your agenda packets
for the next meeting, you'll see an item in there that lays out some
suggestions for Board consideration in that regard.
CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: Wonderful. All right. Anything
else?
(No response.)
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CHAIRMAN SAUNDERS: If not, we are adjourned.
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 1:59 p.m.
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