BCC Minutes 11/08/2006 S (2007 Legislative Priorities)
November 8,2006
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
AND COLLIER COUNTY LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION
PRE-2007 LEGISLATIVE SESSION WORKSHOP
Naples, Florida, November 8, 2006
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Board of County
Commissioners and Collier County Legislative Delegation in and for the
County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at
9:00 AM in a WORKSHOP in Building "F" of the Government Complex,
East Naples, Florida with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Commissioner Frank Halas
Commissioner Jim Coletta
Commissioner Donna Fiala
Commissioner Tom Henning
ALSO PRESENT:
Mike Davis, Florida State Representative
Garrett Richter, Florida State Representative
Burt Saunders, Florida State Senator
Trudi Williams, Florida State Representative
James Mudd, County Manager
Norman Feder, Transportation Director
Jeffrey Klatzkow, Assistant County Attorney
Board of County Commissioners
Collier County Legislative Delegation
Pre-2007 Legislative Session Workshop
Wednesday, November 8,2006
9 - 11 a.m.
AJ!enda
I. Introduction of Newly Elected Collier County
Legislative Delegation Member
II. Discussion about Collier County's Proposed 2007 State
Legislative Priorities
. Growth Management Glitch Bill (SB 360)
. Water Bill
. Insurance
· Affordable Housing
. Attorney/Court Fees
· Portability of Homestead Property Assessments
(Collier County opposed)
· Partial-Year Assessments
· Transportation Funding Tied to Seat Belt Use
. 311 funding
. Cameras at Intersections to Catch Red-Light
Runners
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. Oppose Any Attempt to Change Impact Fees
· Requesting Change in Florida Statutes to Elect
Rather Than Appoint Florida Water
Management District Governing Board Members
. Amend House Bill 7079 to Give All Counties the
Latitude to Exempt Only Portions of Their County With
Unpaved Roads From All-Terrain Vehicle (A TV) Use
· Address Issues of Concern in Consultant Competitive
Negotiation Act
III. Property Tax Issues Open Discussion
VII. Communications
VIII. Public Comment
IX. Adjournment
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The Workshop was called to order at 9:04 PM with the Pledge of Allegiance by
Chairman Frank Halas.
County Manager Jim Mudd led the review of the Agenda, noting that the 2007 State
Legislative Priorities list, as adjusted following today's workshop, will go before the
Board of County Commissioners for approval on November 14,2006. Chairman Halas
will present the priorities list at Representative Mike Davis' County Legislative
Delegation meeting at Naples City Hall on December 19, 2006. The priorities list will
also be used in meetings to identify common priorities for the six counties that are
members of the Southwest Florida Consortium starting on November 16, 2006.
I. DISCUSSION ABOUT COLLIER COUNTY'S PROPOSED 2007 STATE
LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES.
. GROWTH MANAGEMENT GLITCH BILL (SENATE BILL 360)
County Manager Mudd provided background, noting that SB 360, which passed
in the State Legislature about two years, changed some State of Florida growth
management plan elements that had been in place since 1986. Of particular
interest to the BCC is a part of the Bill that addresses Proportionate Fair Share.
This enables a developer to pay money up-front to improve roads that will be
adversely impacted by the development to the point where the road capacity will
exceed the volume of traffic planned for the development - if the road
improvement work is in the five-year road program of the county. Collier County
legislation does not allow development to begin unless necessary road
improvements are in its two-year road program, having changed from a five year
to a two-year basis at the request of its voters and taxpayers in 2002.
Commissioner Halas added that a developer can pay for road improvements at
today's rates, even if a road isn't to be built for five years. Construction costs
have been increasing rapidly, and the County can't get any additional funds from
a developer for increases in the cost of road construction, leaving taxpayers to pay
for the remaining road construction costs.
County Manager Mudd stated that the BCC wants to make sure that SB360 does
not take away any of the powers put together by the BCC in its Ordinances, its
Land Development Code and its Growth Management Plan, and that it's
concurrency base system remains two years, not the three or five year
concurrency base system included in SB 360. Last year Representative Goodlette
helped Collier County get a letter from the DCA that stated that it can keep its
concurrency base system, but nothing was obtained in legislative language that
would ensure that. Several glitch bills for SB 360 failed last year.
Representative Davis commented that the legislative delegation is aware that
road concurrency is important to the voters. Flexibility was put in the bill so that
the County Commissioners can craft their own Proportionate Fair Share ordinance
and their five-year capital improvement element in such a way that they can
protect the road segments that they want to develop. He does not expect much to
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happen with SB360 this year, as there are no glaring glitches statewide that need
to be corrected. In addition, the DCA letter is valuable.
Senator Saunders also noted he doesn't expect much activity this session dealing
with growth management. He expressed less optimism with the DCA letter,
noting that there is a state law that is inconsistent with what Collier County is
doing. It's difficult to fashion state law favorable to Collier County and get
support throughout the entire state. However, possibly a Special Act that would
apply only to Collier County could be fashioned to provide the comfort that is
needed, and he would support that. A Special Act takes precedence over the
general law .
Commissioner Halas expressed hope that the legislative body in Tallahassee will
not change controls on impact fees. They are beneficial to a lot of the counties,
even the rural counties, which are going to start experiencing a lot of growth.
They need a vehicle to help build their infrastructure, and impact fees have been
very beneficial to Collier County. There also need to be other avenues for
counties to gamer the necessary funds to build the infrastructure that is going to
be needed for future growth in the state of Florida.
County Manager Mudd noted that "Oppose any attempt to change impact fees"
is an item on Collier County's 2007 State Legislative Priorities list. He asked if
all the Commissioners agreed with that, and all indicated that they do.
. WATERBILL
County Manager Mudd noted that Senate Bill 444 was passed about two years
ago and provided some alternative money for waters. The BCC is concerned that
some of that alternative money will go to the water management districts, and be
siphoned off into the comprehensive Everglades restoration program, because
federal funds have not been forthcoming for that program as promised. He added
that Representative Davis and members ofthe legislative delegation helped make
sure these dollars went for their intended purpose, and he asked the delegation to
keep their eyes open and make sure that no abnormal actions transpire that will
make it difficult for Collier County to provide water to its citizens.
Representative Davis stated that Representative Williams is a water expert; the
delegation relies on her expertise, so they have some good eyes watching this
Issue.
Representative Williams noted that the legislative delegation has encouraged the
South Florida Water Management District to increase their alternative water
funding. Multiple $500,000 grants are available for reclaimed water facilities and
irrigation systems.
Commissioner Halas expressed concern that new wells always have to go to
greater depths, and their water has a lot of salinity. The BCC hopes to get some
permits for sweet water.
Representative Williams said that, as County Manager Mudd put it, you are
never going to run out of water, but you will run out of cheap water.
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Commissioner Coletta expressed concern that Collier County is restricted from
using water from the restored Everglades, but Miami and Ft. Lauderdale on the
east coast can tap into that water source.
Representative Williams responded that she doesn't believe that to be the case as
Miami Dade is required to improve its water reclamation efforts before the Water
Management District will give them any additional waters.
. INSURANCE
Representative Davis indicated that Lt. Governor Toni Jennings' task force
report on insurance is due back to the Governor on November 15. The legislature
will probably be in special session in early December, and Representative Davis
is optimistic that there will a lot of positive things in the task force report that can
be implemented in statute. This past quiet storm season should help a lot with this
Issue.
Commissioner Halas commented that for many years no big storms hit Florida.
Insurance companies did well here and now, following two bad years of storms,
they are pulling out of the state or are increasing rates dramatically. The
legislature was somewhat shortsighted to let these companies leave the state.
Insurance companies are in business to take risks, and their astronomical increases
are wrong. Collier County is basically an all brand new county with high building
code standards, and thus less vulnerable to storm damage than many other areas.
Representative Davis agreed, but noted that statewide eighty percent of housing
does not meet current building code.
Commissioner Fiala noted that the homeowner's insurance company that she had
for 32 years with no claims has left the state. Only Citizens Insurance would
agree to cover her, and her premium increased by almost 400%.
Representative Davis indicated that the legislature has control over Citizens
Insurance, and how they operate will be looked at as part ofthe whole insurance
reVIew.
Commissioner Halas added that when homeowners take action to improve the
wind loads that their buildings will withstand, insurance companies give them an
insignificant discount on their insurance premiums. This should also be looked at.
Representative Davis indicated that he expects an outcome of the special session
to be to give direction to the insurance companies to give homeowners specific
incentives to make structural improvements to their properties. It's good business
for the insurance companies when properties that they cover are better able to
withstand storms.
County Manager Mudd noted that Commissioner Coyle, who was unable to
attend today's workshop, provided an email in today's package with his concerns
on this issue. Are hazard risks really spread nationwide or are they regionalized?
Also, most damage suffered in Collier County during Hurricane Wilma was paid
by homeowners because of increases in their deductibles.
Representative Davis noted that while there was no interest is talking about a
national catastrophic fund two years ago, today it is being talked about a lot and
he expects it to happen.
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Representative Richter added that from his experience with bankers associations
over many years, he knows that bankers are very concerned about insurance
because they hold the title to most of the assets being insured. Competition
within the insurance industry needs to be increased - a government-backed
facility will not work ideally for everybody. This issue has to be addressed at a
statewide level, not by individual counties.
. AFFORDABLE HOUSING
County Manager Mudd speaking for the County thanked Representative Davis
for his affordable housing bill last year that made dollars for this purpose
available within the state of Florida. He commented that removing the cap on the
Sardowski funds will help.
Representative Davis commented that $512 million was left in the Sardowski
trust fund last year. He is an advocate of removal of the cap this year that goes on
at $243 million, although not necessarily using all of those funds for existing
programs. There are good affordable housing programs that he does support
including sale - loan programs, programs that get people into rental housing, and
the down payment assistance program that Collier County uses. He chairs an
interim task force in the Florida House that will report to the Speaker in mid-
January, and he expects more fixes to be coming, including a tax incremental
financing mechanism that will be put in statute. The new Governor supports
removing the cap on the Sardowski trust fund, but favors keeping a couple of
hundred million dollars in it in reserves to help quickly put people back in
housing following a major storm.
Commissioner Fiala noted that locally more and more housing is available, but
high insurance rates tend to make housing less affordable.
Representative Davis noted that the increased value of real estate has caused real
estate taxes to increase as well, adding to the problem.
County Manager Mudd asked that the delegation continue to support any efforts
for affordable housing in the state legislature as this is still a major problem.
Commissioner Halas added that this is not just unique to southwest Florida; it is
an issue throughout the whole state of Florida
Senator Saunders said that this is also an important issue for the health care
industry, as many people who work in hospitals can't afford to live near them.
. ATTORNEY/COURT FEES
County Manager Mudd stated that this subject became a problem with the hot
real estate market. The County is being charged exorbitant attorney's fees in
eminent domain cases. He gave an example of a case in which an appraisal on an
eminent domain property was $333,000. A year passed with the County unable to
get an agreement with the property owner and a year later, when the case went to
court, the property was appraised at $1.4 million - representing some increase in
property value and $500,000 in attorney's fees. He has spoken with other County
Managers who have had the same experience.
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Commissioner Henning added that this affects the State in their road expansion
projects throughout the whole state of Florida.
Senator Saunders asked if a quick take was done and the property was acquired
immediately, how that would change attorney fees.
County Manager Mudd replied that money would be placed in the court's
coffers, and when the process was settled, the value at time of settlement would
be used, presenting the same problem.
Jeffrey Klatzkow, Assistant County Attorney stated that the Legislature has set
attorney fees at 25% for property valued over $250,000. That probably was
reasonable at one point in time for the labor that was expended, but in current
market conditions 10% is probably fairer.
Norman Feder, Transportation Director added that the date at which value is
set is the date when the first written offer is made. There is a cooling off period
of at least thirty days, even on a quick take. By the time a case goes to court and
an order of taking is obtained, more time passes.
Representative Davis stated that there is a lot of discussion this year about
substantial legislation that relates to FDOT and eminent domain situations, and he
expects some action. He understands that the Florida Association of Counties
will get behind this as well, and that strong voice for 67 counties will help.
Commissioner Halas noted that there is a lot of effort to contain the cost of
building roads, and these situations have a large effect on that cost.
. PORTABILITY OF HOMESTEAD PROPERTY ASSESSMENTS
(COLLIER COUNTY OPPOSED)
County Manager Mudd noted that proposed homestead exemption legislation
would enable a domiciled Florida resident to transfer the benefits of his
homestead exemption to a new domiciled residence in the State of Florida. A
study by the Florida Association of Realtors indicates that a statewide portability
bill might reduce property taxes in Collier County by $55 million, or about one
mill. To compensate for that loss, the property tax rate would have to be
increased for all property owners.
Senator Saunders indicated that there is going to be portability, and he
recommended taking a position in support of some limited portability rather than
opposing it. It will be on the ballot during the 2008 legislative session, so there is
some time to help fashion it. He urged the Florida Association of Counties to
come up with some language that makes sense in respect to portability.
Commissioner Coletta stated that he chairs the Policy Committee for the Florida
Association of Counties, and they are looking at portability within a county.
Senator Saunders said that the Legislature will not limit portability to within a
county. He said that he would be happy to attend a Florida Association of
Counties meeting to talk about this topic, and he recommended that someone
from Collier County attend one of the Senate's monthly committee meetings on
this subject. He added that there are individuals on the committee who think the
amount of money that local governments spend each year needs to be capped.
Capping spending is a more effective way to slow increases in property taxes.
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Limiting increases in spending will help property tax payers more in some
peoples' minds than trying to deal with the issue of how you tax.
Commissioner Henning noted that last night constitutional amendments to lower
taxes for veterans and seniors were approved by super majorities. Portability is
coming, and it is necessary to take a positive position on what is best for the
citizens. Portability across county lines will hurt interior counties which are at
their millage cap.
Commissioner Henning added that the BCC wanted to welcome Garrett Richter,
who became a Florida State Representative last night with his election victory
(this first Agenda item was inadvertently skipped).
Representative Davis indicated that the BCC's policy guidelines regarding
homestead portability were not viable, and recommended that Commissioner
Coletta, working with Senator Saunders, craft a new position for the BCC.
Commissioner Henning agreed with Representative Davis' suggestion to have
Commissioner Coletta work with Senator Saunders to craft a new position paper
and bring it back to the BCC. All of the Commissioners agreed.
. ADDING $25,000 TO THE CURRENT $25,000 HOMESTEAD
EXEMPTION
County Manager Mudd noted that Governor elect Crist supports this expansion
ofthe Homestead Exemption. This action will cause a loss of$7.3 million to
Collier County's general fund each year, and a $25 million loss in revenue in total
to all government entities in the County.
. PARTIAL-YEAR ASSESSMENTS
County Manager Mudd stated that currently real estate in Collier County is
assessed annually on January 1. If someone purchases property after January I
and makes improvements during that year, those improvements are not
recognized by the Property Appraiser until the following year. A more effective
way to generate the revenues necessary to pay for the services provided would be
to appraise property as additions or newly-constructed homes are completed.
Revenues generated from a partial-year assessment plan if implemented are
estimated between $2 and $3 million.
Senator Sanders stated that he will add this issue to the agenda of the Property
Tax Reform Committee for next week.
. TRANSPORTATION FUNDING TIED TO SEAT BELT USE
County Manager Mudd stated that because the State of Florida does not have a
mandatory seat belt law (except for persons under the ago of 18) the state misses
out on $30 million in federal funds that could be used for transportation every
year.
Representative Davis suggested that the Florida Association of Counties get
behind this issue.
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Representative Williams noted that she served on the Transportation Committee
the last two years and this came up in both sessions. Two issues that come up are
that the poor farmer who puts his kids in the back of his pick up truck to drive to
church couldn't, and mandatory seat belt use would make hayrides illegal. There
is a lot of opposition to this. Mandatory seat belt use passed out of every
committee of reference both years, but the Governor vetoed it. Perhaps the new
Governor will view it differently.
. 311 FUNDING
County Manager Mudd explained that, as telephone number 911 is used for
emergency services, telephone number 311 could be used for contacting the
government for non-emergency issues such as "I have a water bill question, my
garbage wasn't picked up, or I need to talk to Social Services, etc." This passed
both houses and was vetoed by the Governor.
Representative Davis noted that their support is obvious, as this was passed by
both the House and Senate last year. He expects that this will be addressed again
this year.
. CAMERAS AT INTERSECTIONS TO CATCH RED-LIGHT RUNNERS
County Manager Mudd stated that the issue of cars running red lights is a big
problem in Collier County, Lee County and throughout the State of Florida.
Representative Davis said that he has co-sponsored this Bill a number oftimes.
Some argue that use of the cameras is an invasion of personal rights. It has been
abused in other states by companies that install the cameras and then provide the
ticketing mechanism.
Commissioner Halas added that he will look for support from the Florida
Association of Counties on this issue.
. REQUESTING CHANGE IN FLORIDA STATUTES TO ELECT RATHER
THAN APPOINT FLORIDA WATER MANAGEMENT DISTRICT
GOVERNING BOARD MEMBERS
County Manager Mudd noted that House Bill 559, which was introduced last
session to eliminate provisions for appointment of members to water management
district governing boards and to require board members to be elected, did not
pass.
Representative Williams who formerly served on the South Florida Water
Management District said electing members is a bad idea. The budget of the
South Florida Water Management District has increased from $458 million in
1999 to $1.4 billion today. The issue with electing all board members is that
those with the deepest pockets (i.e. sugar) could theoretically have nine members
on the board. People are appointed to the board to get some diversity on it -
competing interests from sugar, the environment, business and finance, engineers
and scientists. Today the Governor appoints board members and approves their
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budget - no one else has any input, and it would make sense to have the
Appropriations Committee in both the House and Senate review and approve the
budget and the millage rate so there would at least be a stopgap before the budget
goes to the Governor. This would give the Legislature some input into the budget
and the millage rate.
Representative Richter said that he formerly served on the Big Cypress Basin
Board, and he was appointed for his knowledge of finance more than water. He
agreed that the current system provides for a lot of diversity on that Board.
Commissioner Coletta disagreed, stating that he trusts the voters to put the right
people in place. He asserted there is a disconnect between Water Management
and the BCC, and between Water Management and the public. Water
Management doesn't respond in a meaningful way when they should, so the
public directs problems to individual Collier County Commissioners that Water
Management should be addressing.
Representative Williams stated that options should be considered, like possibly
electing 50% of the members and appointing 50% of them.
Senator Saunders said that after listening to today's discussion, perhaps it does
make sense to have Board Members elected, and asked Commissioner Coletta for
his position paper on the issue.
Representative Davis agreed that something needs to change. He thinks this will
be looked at in the Florida House this year because there are a number of people
like Representative Williams who are concerned about how they operate and their
very large budgets.
. AMEND HOUSE BILL 7079 TO GIVE ALL COUNTIES THE LATITUDE
TO EXEMPT ONLY PORTIONS OF THEIR COUNTY WITH UNPAVED
ROADS FROM ALL-TERRAIN VEHICLE (ATV) USE
County Manager Mudd stated that HB 7079 permits ATVs to operate on
unpaved roadways during the daylight. A county is exempt from this section if
the governing body of the county, by majority vote, following a noticed public
hearing, votes to exempt the county from it. The Bill is all or nothing - ATVs
may be operated on either all of the unpaved roadways or on none of them. This
is a problem in the Estates, an area of Collier County the size of Washington DC,
which is full of residential properties and has many unpaved roads. There are also
some unpaved roads off of Bayshore Drive. Accordingly, before the October 1
deadline the BCC decided to exempt the roads in Collier County from HB 7079.
However, if they had the option they would like to have the country dirt roads that
aren't residential open to A TV use. The BCC recommends an amendment to this
bill to allow all counties in the State of Florida to designate what roads are
available for A TV use.
Representative Davis expressed support of the BCC's view on this issue. He
plans to talk to Greg Evers from the Panhandle who sponsored this Bill and get
his feedback.
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Commissioner Halas said that this should be left up to the counties as their
representative are closer to their particular situations that the people in
Tallahassee.
. ADDRESS ISSUES OF CONCERN IN CONSULTANT COMPETITIVE
NEGOTIATION ACT
County Manager Mudd stated that the CCNA law governs how local and state
agencies procure the services of professional engineers, architects, landscape
architects, surveyors and mappers. The Competitive Selection step directs that
firms are to compete on the basis of qualifications, and the agency is to rank firms
in order of their qualifications, based on pre-established evaluation criteria.
Agencies are prohibited from considering compensation proposals prior to
completing the selection process (i.e., until a shortlist of not less than three firms
has been established). However, when the county has a list of pre-qualified firms
for particular work, present law makes it very difficult to talk to those firms to
determine what their price is going to be for a particular job. Collier County
would like to be able to ask more than one pre-qualified firm what it would
charge for a particular item, and then select the most qualified firm with the best
price. Present law makes it very cumbersome to determine what firms are in a
position to take on work, and the price that they would charge.
Representative Williams said that the architects, engineers, etc. will oppose
change to the CCNA law. As the law was written, five firms might be pre-
qualified, and the agency must start with one and negotiate price with them. If an
agreement is not reached, the process is repeated with the next pre-qualified firm.
There will be a lot of opposition from the Florida Engineering Society to
changing this because the law was put in place to avoid bidding between
professional entities. The opposition to changing this bill would be phenomenal.
II. PROPERTY TAX ISSUES OPEN DISCUSSION
County Manager Mudd noted that Senator Saunders already discussed the
property tax issue when he recommended that a Collier County representative
attend his committee meeting.
III. COMMUNICATIONS
Commissioner Halas spoke on behalf of the BCC, stating that the
Commissioners look forward to working with Representative Richter. He added
that they have a great team, and he thinks they will accomplish a lot together.
Representative Richter thanked Commissioner Halas for his welcome.
Representative Davis speaking on behalf of the delegation, noted that Collier
County is one of the very few counties that have the kind of meeting that they
held today, and the delegation has a good relationship with the BCC.
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IV. PUBLIC COMMENT
None
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
concluded by order of the Chair at 11 :04 AM.
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