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August 2,2006
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, August 2, 2006
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Development
Services Advisory Committee in and for the County of Collier, having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 1 :00 P.M. in REGULAR
SESSION in Conference Rooms #609 and #610 at the Collier County
Development Services Center, Naples, Florida, with the following members
present:
STAFF PRESENT:
Barbara Burgeson, Environmental Services
Joyce Ernst, Zoning
Catherine Fabacher, LDC Coordinator
Mike Levy, Planner
Bill Lorenz, Environmental Services
Bruce McNall, Zoning
Judy Puig, Planner
Mike Sawyer, Zoning
Jim Seabasty, Permitting Supervisor
Joe Schmitt, CDES Administrator
Marlene Stewart, Administrative Assistant
CHAIRMAN: Clay Brooker (excused)
Charles Abbott (excused)
James Boughton
David Bryant
Dalas Disney
David Dunnavant
Marco Espinar
Blair Foley
George Hermanson
Reed Jarvi
Brian Jones (absent)
Thomas Masters (excused)
Robert Mulhere (excused)
Fred Reischl
DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
AGENDA
August 2, 2006
1 :00 p.m.
Conference Room 609 & 610
I. Approval of Agenda
II. Approval of Minutes - July 5, 2006
III. Staff Announcements
A. Community Development & Environmental Services Update - Joe Schmitt
B. Transportation Division Update - Don Scott
C. Public Utilities Division Update - Roy Anderson
D. Fire Review Update - Ed Riley
IV. New Business
A. Presentation of new In-take team and procedures - Jim Seabasty
B. Discussion of DSAC meeting schedule - Catherine Fabacher
V. Old Business
A. LDC amendments 2006 Cycle I presentation, discussion and vote -
Catherine Fabacher
VI. Subcommittee Reports
A. Land Development Regulation - Fred Reischl
B. Utility Code
VII. Committee Member Comments
VIII. Next Meeting Date - September 6,2006 at 3:30 p.m. in room 610
IX. Adjournment
August 2, 2006
Vice-chairman David Dunnavant, who announced that six members were
present and eight were needed for a quorum, called the meeting to order at
1 :30 P.M. The Committee agreed to hear the scheduled staff reports and
presentations on the Agenda without voting on anything. At which time, if a
quorum is present, the regular meeting will resume. If not, the meeting will
adjourn.
I. and II. The August 2nd Agenda and July 5, 2006 Minutes were reviewed for any
comments.
III. Staff Announcements:
A. Community Development & Environmental Services Update-Joe Schmitt
(Mr. Schmitt's report follows IV. Item A.)
B. Transportation Division Update-Don Scott - NO REPORT
C. Public Utilities Update-Roy Anderson - NO REPORT
D. Fire Review-Ed Riley - NO REPORT
IV. New Business
A. Presentation of new in-take team and Procedures - Jim Seabasty
(Hand-out on "Application Processing and Distribution Guidelines"
and a DVD on "Intake Process Procedures")
Mr. Seabasty, intake team supervisor, introduced himself and his
application processing intake team, Judy Puig and Mike Levy, the
one-on-one reVIewers.
(Mr. Reischl arrived at 1 :35pm)
Mr. Seabasty gave an informative video presentation on the step-by-step
procedures and how they will favorably impact the application submittal
process. The new intake team system has been in place since July 3rd and has
already had positive results in speeding up and refining the project plan
sufficiency review process. The goal of the new in-take team procedure is to
speed up the process and enhance communications. Mr. Seabasty, Ms Puig
and Mr. Levy fielded several questions from the members and provided
helpful explanations.
Mr. Seabasty provided an update note that since implementation, 300
applications have come in and 145 have already been completed, with only
3 rej ected.
Several Committee Members had complementary comments on their
experience with the new procedures.
(Mr. Schmitt arrived at 1 :55pm)
Mr. Schmitt then gave his report on the CDES Update. He spoke of the
backlog and the progress being made. Of the approximate 34,000 permits
that came in last year, 11,000 needed second and third reviews, mostly for
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fire reviews. Over-the-counter type permits are one hold-up. Problems of
space are another issue. Need for additional staff and station space is another
issue. Money for new hires is available, without raising fees. Twelve people
have been approved to be hired, but nowhere to put them. BCC is not in favor
of renting more space. Front counter will be remodeled and expanded.
Commissioner Coletta has been approached regarding the need for a
Permitting Workshop to address these issues. This workshop is scheduled for
October 4,2006. The Committee's input was encouraged.
Mr. Schmitt reported that the new software systems search has been narrowed
down to two. Those systems will be viewed in Hollywood and Sarasota. Plans are
to have software system in place by the end of August.
Blair Foley inquired about a Deputy Administrator position that had been
mentioned.
Mr. Schmitt explained that BCC had thoughts that CDES has become too
large and unwieldy.
County Manager Jim Mudd had been directed to make proposals regarding
the situation. Two proposals were to consider taking Housing and Grant area
out of CDES; and also move Code Enforcement out of CDES. Nothing has
been done yet; no analysis has been conducted. He also proposed two positions -
a Deputy Administrator for internal issues to assist Mr. Schmitt, whose time is
taken up with so many meetings and external requirements; and, a Citizen Liaison
assistant, or Ombudsman to aid the general public, owner-builders and small "mom
& pop" type homeowners with permitting needs.
Mr. Schmitt announced that he had already instituted this Citizen Liaison-
Ombudsman position. It will be sort of a CDS Helpline under Jamie French and
Lisa Keeler. Both positions were denied by BCC as above budget guidance. Ad
valorem funded services vs. fee funded services are tight issues at budget time.
Regarding Building Permit issues, Mr. Schmitt stated there is two years of inventory
-sold but yet to be built-at this time. He covered the different permit totals noting
comparisons of permits issued in 2005 (34,450) and those projected for 2006
(43,000). There are 4,600 new units already this year. He pointed out that his job
is to get the backlog processed and "out the door."
Discussion followed with several members expressing their experiences with
permitting and interdepartmental communication issues.
B. Discussion of DSAC meeting schedule - Catherine Fabacher
Discussion revolved around changing future DSAC meetings to the second
Wednesday of the month. It was brought to the attention of the Committee that the
DSAC meetings being held on the first Wednesday of the month adversely affects
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the ability for staff to provide EAC input for the Committee. EAC meets on the
same day, in the morning. Information and materials are not available by that
afternoon. Also, some members are on both committees.
Mr. Dunnavant commented that he would like to take this up with the full
Committee present. For now, meeting will be Sept. 6,2006 at 1: 00 PM
Ms. Fabacher related information about upcoming meetings that may be of interest to
the Members. She will be updating the web site with all information on results of
meetings pertinent to LDC amendments.
Mr. Schmitt will e-mail to all Committee Members; information on EAR based
amendments - observation, recommendation and comment reports and DCA
objections.
Since a quorum still had not been obtained, only discussion was conducted.
Mr. Espinar had several questions regarding wetlands, uplands, and berms in LDC
amendments that were discussed.
Mr. Dunnavant was about to adjourn the meeting when Mr. Bryant arrived, making
up the needed quorum.
BREAK 2:40 PM
RECONVENED 2:45 PM
George Hermanson will be excused from the September 6 meeting.
Mr. Dunnavant again called the meeting to order and a quorum was established.
Approval of the minutes of July 5, 2006
Mr. Espinar moved to approve the minutes of July 5, 2006. Second by Mr.
Bryant. Motion carried unanimously 8-0.
B. Discussion of DSAC meeting schedule-Catherine Fabacher
Continuation of this item was taken up with a quorum now present in regular
seSSIOn.
In light of the previous mentioned situation, Ms Fabacher asked DSAC to
consider moving their meetings to the second Wednesday of the month.
Mr. Dunnavant stated the Committee would like to defer this decision until next
month so the all members could review their schedules and then vote on it. The
Committee agreed to meet on September 6, at 1 :OOPM and make their decision
with the full Committee present.
V. Old Business
A. LDC amendments 2006 Cycle I presentation, discussion, vote-Catherine
Fabacher (Handouts-4)
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Ms Fabacher led the discussion of the items to be covered that were not covered during
the June and July meetings. These were summarized on the memorandum sheet along
with the LDC Amendments Summary Sheet. Of the nineteen (19) items listed on the
memorandum sheet included in the packet, the following were discussed, voted upon or
deferred until the next meeting on September 6.
Ms. Fabacher told everyone to make note of the following:
Shape Factor under 3.05.07 had been withdrawn.
The discussion and disposition of the LDC amendments followed.
2.03.07 -Overlay Zoning Districts
. Change is for amending map boundary, extending one block east of the
existing boundary of Santa Barbara Overlay District map to make consistent
with the Golden Gate Area Master Plan
Fred Reischl moved to recommend approval to accept the change. Second by
David Dunnavant. Motion carried unanimously 8-0.
3. 05. 07.H.1.d -Preservation Standards -Allowable uses in preserves
. Change is to add criteria for treated storm water in wetland or hydric
preserves when additional storm water will either benefit the preserve or
have no adverse affect on its native vegetation. (There are several sub-
sections to this item.)
Barbara Burgeson and Bill Lorenz, Environmental Specialists, discussed and
gave answers to the various questions posed by Committee Members regarding
the discharge of stormwater in preserves with native sensitive vegetation and
habitats of protected species. Also affects of water table changes at various
control elevations.
(Mr. Disney arrived at 3: l5pm)
Committee Members had several concerns regarding the separating of upland and
wetland with berms, changing water tables, minimum threshold acreage, limits to
owner rights to develop lands, adjusting for project size and use of the term
"preserve" to suggest a more prohibitive nature.
Lengthy discussion followed.
Mr. Espinar introduced Bruce Layman of Wilson Miller who pointed out several
problems with some of the points in the amendment, specifically point c., in that
the maiority of the time there would be use of the 1 % deviation. Also, the low
number of 5% preserve area (should be more like 90%).
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Mr. Dunnavant stated that the Committee had just received the information
today. There were too many points needing clarification, understanding and
discussing to vote on before the time when Mr. Jarvi would have to leave and
there would be no quorum to vote. In order to allow more time to study the whole
amendment, he entertained a motion to move this item to September 6 meeting.
Mr. Hermanson moved that all items under Section 3.05.07 be deferred until
the September 6, 2006 meeting. Second by Mr. Disney. Motion carried 9-0.
(Mr. Foley left at 3:50 PM.)
5. 03. 06G - Dock Facilities
Joyce Ernst, Zoning Department, explained the omission of criteria for evaluating
boat dock extension applications, resulting in correction to the change to the
amendment. Change is for approval of 3 of the 5 primary criteria is to be met
instead of 4 of the 5 criteria. Discussion and explanation for change followed.
Mr. Jarvi moved to recommend approval the amendment change, adding the
criteria. Second by Mr. Reischl.
Mr. Jarvi then amended his motion to include in the recommendation, the
approval of the change from "4 out of 5 primary criteria to be met" to "3 out
of 5 primary criteria to be met." Second by Mr. Espinar.
Motion and amended motion carried unanimously, 8-0.
9.04.04 - Specific Requirementsfor After-the-Fact Encroachments
Ms Ernst explained the modification in language of the variance for allowable
encroachments to include and apply to both principal and accessory structures; and
to provide an administrative process for minor improvements to non-conforming
residential structures.
After some discussion on whether these are one item or two, Committee Members
suggested giving this item back to staff until variance was reviewed and final
language in total is put before the whole DSAC members.
This item was deferred until September 6 meeting.
4.06.05.B.4 General Landscaping Requirements
4.06.05.B.5 (handout)
Mike Sawyer, Senior Planner, Zoning Department, spoke on the current
requirements and the proposed amendment requirements and percentages
regarding foundation plantings. He provided a printout showing "Comparative
examples of foundation requirements," showing the revised square footages.
Effort is to refine and to standardize.
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Questions arose regarding wording of various items of the amendment. Some items
have vague interpretations. Clarification needed under several items-- building
sizes, minimum widths, what is covered under square footage, entry points, etc.
Members felt amendment hinders rather than helps, with the excessive requirements
and had many suggestions for changes.
The Committee suggested deferring sections 4.06.05.B.4 and section 4.06.05.B.5
until the next meeting, September 6, 2006.
Mr. Jarvi left at 4:20PM
There being no quorum remaining, Vice-Chairman Dunnavant announced that all
remaining items not covered on the memorandum and Amendment Summary
Sheets, which were to be considered at the August 2nd meeting, are deferred for
formal action until the September 6th meeting.
Ms Fabacher then introduced Marlene Stewart to the Committee. Marlene will
be the new Administrative Assistant to CDES and will be working with DSAC.
VI. Subcommittee Reports
A. Land Development Regulation - Fred Reischl- No Report
B. Utility Code - No Report
VII. Committee Member Comments -NONE
VIII. Next Meeting Date- September 6, 2006 at 1:00 PM (Room 610).
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by the order of the Vice Chair at 4:25 PM.
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DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Vice-Chairman, David Dunnavant
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