BCC Minutes 07/26/1978 W
Naples, Florida, July 26, 1978
LET r' BE IIDIE/IIDERED, that t.he Board of Cotmty Corrrnissioners in and
[or the County of Collier, and also acting as the Governing Board(s) of
stich special districts as have been created according to law and having
conducted business herein met on this date at 9:00 A.M. in Budget IVork-
shop Session in Building "F" of the Courthouse Complex with the following
members present:
CHAI~~: John A. Pistor
VICE-Q-lAI~~: David C. Brown
Clifford C. Wenzel (9:40 A.M.)
Th07l'AS P. Archer
C.R. "Russ" Wimer
ALSO PRESENT: Harold L. Hall, Chief Deputy Clerk/Fiscal Officer;
Jean Swindle and Edna Brenneman (1:30 P.M.), Deputy Clerks; C. William
No~'n. County ~mnager; Cliff Barksdale, Cotmty Engineer and George Archi-
bald, Engineering Department.
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1978-79 BUDGET REVIEW SCHEDULE
\~DNESDAY, JULY 26, 1978
9:00 a.m. 34-000 Motor Vehicle It spection Cliff Barksdale
lInti1 55-010 Solid Waste - Administrative
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Noon 55-021 So lid Waste - Transfer/Naples )
55-022 Solid Waste - Transfer/Marco
55-023 Solid Wa.t. - Tran.ter/Carn..town
55-030 Solid "'as te - Transport
55-041 Solid Waste - Landfill/Naples
55-042 Solid Waste - Landfill/Immokalee
59-000 Aquatic "Teed Control
60-000 Engineering
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#34-000 MOTOR VEHICLE INSPECTION BUDGET - REVIEWED
Discussion regarding the two motor vehicle inspection stations,
Naple~ anJ Immokalee, incluned the following points:
1.
Projected revenues for the year 1978-79 from both
stations: Approximately $179,000 which will cover
operational expenses for that period of time.
Use of Capit~l Improvement Fund in the amount of
$174,250 for the construction of the new n,"!p1es
Motor Vehicle Inspection station and related cocts.
Saturday openings of the inspection stations as man-
dated by Florida Statutes effective date August, 1978
and using the Immoka1ee unit as immediate compliance
to said statute with the Naples station to be reviewed
and reported back to the Board of County Commissioners
at a later date.
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4.
The possibility of turning the County operated
inspection stations over to independent operators _
i.e. service stations - after said operators have
been authorized by the State.
Chairman Pis tor concluded the review by stating the motor
vehicle inspection stations are self-supporting and there appear
to be no changes required in their budget.
#55-010 SOLID WASTE INCLUDING TRANSFER/NAPLES, MARCO, CARNESTOWN;
TRANSPOrtT; LANDFILL/NAPLES AND IUMOKALEE BUDGET - REVIEWED
Chairman Pis tor stated the proposed budget (FY 1978-79) for
all areas of the Solid Waste program as being $611,996 requested
from general fund and $366,250 requested from Capital Improvement
fund totaling $978,246. The money figures for workmen's compensa-
tion, personal transFortation expenses and motor pool reimburse-
ment were reviewed together with the confirmation of the site
location for the proposed landfill in Immokalee; the scheduled
hours each transfer station is available to the public and the
possible changing of same; suggested use of a separator/chopper
that are required in a "shredding process"; the possibility of
having mandatory collection with the operation contracted to a
private enterprise; the one-time cost of the telephone installa-
tion for use at the Carnes town transfer station; and the future
use, perhaps, of a scale at each landfill site so charges could
be determined by weight.
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Chairman Pistor requested a report, regarding Solid Waste,
Inc. of Fort Lauderdale, Florida and the possibility of having a
like operation installed at the County landfill sites. Fiscal
Officer Hall noted that it is his intent in the future to make
available to each department head a monthly report stating the
percentage of monies spent and the amount of monies remaining for
each budget.
f59-000 - AQUATIC WEED CONTROL BUDGET - REVIEWED
County Engineer Cliff Barksdale presented the Aquatic Weed
Control Budget giving the requested budget figure as $198,425
\.ith some $52,000 coming from the State in matched funds.
Commissioner Wimer remarked favorably on the increased use of
herbicide treatment for the surrounding canals while curtailing
the use of mechanical devices. It was the consensus of the Board
that no changes would be required on the above-referenced budget.
)60-000 - ENGINEERING BUDGET - REVIEWED
Chairmah Pis tor stated the large increase in the Engineering
Bwdget (requested monies - $395,305) is due to the need for an
additional survey team and asked County Engineer Barksdale to
justify the request.
County Engineer Barksdale explained that one of the biggest
problems and source of complaints is the improper driveway in-
stallations which in turn becomes very expensive, indeed, when
the cor~ection of such errors takes place. Mr. Barksdale continued,
that last year the County passed an ordinance that sets the
criteria for such work and because the engineering staff does not
have enough personnel to make the original inspection of such
installations, the problem continues. It is for this solution,
;.jr. Barksdale said, that the new three-man survey team is requested.
adding that the same team would be used in road improvement
nssessments; grading; driveway inst~llations, etc.
Discussion followed regarding contracting the inspections out
to a survey firm; requesting County Engineer Barksdale to prepare
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a method/schedule whereby the full cost of {nspections and surveys
would be charged to the Contractors; a reminder that the goal of
the Board this year is to have no new programs or new positions
nnd Hoking ~rom the Engineering Department a fee schedule that
would allow this new team to be self-supporting.
#61-010 - ROAD AND BRIDGE - GE~~RAL/MAINTENANCE 1, 2, 3, 4 AND
5/TRAFFIC/SECONDARY ROAD ADMINISTRATION/SECONDARY ROAD CONSTRUCTION
(NE\v) - REVIEWED
The overall requested budge: for the Road and Bridge accounts
amounts to $14,360,132 including $10,000,000 for new road construc-
tion was reviewed with Fiscal Officer Hall supplying the fund-
source information. ~lr. Hall stated the majority of the funds
come from (1) oil & gas tax and/or pour-over fund; (2) some
Federal Revenue Sharing funds (3) a portion of the monies from
the race track and (4) approxi~ate1y $200,000 cash carryover. He
continued, that the operating budget for Road & Bridge _ General
and Maintenance has increased only 5% and that the newly trans-
ferred Secondary Road Administration and Construction program
will be self-supporting through the 5th and 6th cent gas tax.
Discussion followed regarding all areas of the subject
budget and concluded with Chairman Pistor's expressed satisfaction
with the Road and Bridge budget, suggesting, of course, that if
any money can he saved, it should be done.
#62-011, 62-012, 62-013, 62-014 & 62-015 MST DISTRICTS I, 2, 3,
4 and 5 FOR ROAD CONSTRUCTION - REVIEWED
County Engineer Barksdale stated, at the beginning of the
review, that the Board had authorized a loan for the work which
is now in progress; that these current road improvements have
already taken 80% of the loan monies and the requested figure of
$576,900 is for the repayment of the loan together with advance-
~ent of the programs during FY 1978-79.
Discussion followed, touching upon such points as: the
change in millage for Districts 2, 3 and 5 while no change in
Districts 1 and 4; the increase in the department's money requests
for Districts 1, 2, 3 and 4; Commissioner Wimer's request for an
increase in the road maintenance budget for the roads in Naples
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Park (instead of $11,000 it should be $30,000) and concluding "ith
Chairman Pistor's request to County Engineer Barksdale for a correct
estimate regarding the repairs necessary on the Naples Park roads
and to bri~g the report back to the Board.
#63-010 - MST DISTRICT - WESTLAKE; 163-020 - MST DISTRICT/PORT-AU-
PRINCE AND #63-030 - MST DISTRICT/VICTORIA PARK _ REVIEWED
The review of the above-referenced UST Districts concluded with
the Board's expressed satisfaction.
#64-010 - LIGHTING DISTRICT COLLIER COUNTY; #64-020 _ LIGHTING
DISTRICT MARCO (NEW) AND #64-030 - LIGHTING DISTRICT IMMOKALEE _
REVIEWED
Fiscal Officer Hall called to the Board's attention the fact
that last year lights had been turned on in areas before the taxes
were collected, resulting in the shown deficit of $10,000 in this
year's budget. To counteract this deficit, the millage has been
increased for the year 1978-79 in Collier County Lighting District,
Mr. Hall continued, and it is his hope that the policy of turning
on electricity only on the first day of October of each year for
all lighting districts will be seriously considered by the Board
at a later date.
Last year, Fiscal Officer Hall said, the Board passed En
ordinance that made the Immokalee Lighting and Beautification
district a dependent district under the Board of County Commissioners.
He stated the transition has not yet been completed but should be so
within a month, this includes records, books, etc.
#66-000 - SPECIAL ASSESS~NTS - ROAD CONSTRUCTIOn _ REVIEWED
Fiscal Officer Hall stated that the preliminary preparation
for an assessment bond issue is underway and within the next four
weeks he, County Engineer Barksdale and County Manager Norman will
review the approach that will be used, giving as an example a
S-year Assessment Bond that would be used for the funding of
special road assessments with the pledging of the projected assess-
ments to the bond issue.
It was the consensus of the Board that this approach was
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better than the method now employed.
FY 78-79 BUDGET FOR SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS - 18-010/020 _ rillVIE~
r1rs. Edna Santa, Supervisor of Elections, was present to
respond to questions concerning the FY 78-79 Budget for the Super
of Elections' Department and also concerning the new voting mach!
Following brief review, Conmissioner Archer moved, seconded
Commissioner Wimer, that the Supervisor of Elections' Budget be
approved, noting that the budget shows a decrease of 8.8%. No
action was taken on the motion.
Con~issioner Archer inquired if Mrs. Santa has sufficient
personnel for the upcoming registration and elections with
11rs. Santa responding that for the time being she does; however,
she noted that some temporary help can be hired if needed.
Concerning voting machines, Mrs. Santa expressed her willing
to demonstrate the new machines wherever and whenever requested.
She also stated that there will be a trained poll worker at each
polling place on election day to assist the voters.
In response to Commissioner Archer's inquiry, !-frs. Ranta sta
tha t there ,,,ill be no names on the ballot who have not filed the
worth Statement Form.
Brief discussion followed concerning the appointment of a
Canvassing Board for the September Primary Election, the November
General Election and, if required, the runoff election in October
Chairman Pis tor stated that he and Commissioner Archer will be
available for the September 12, 1978 election to serve on the
Canvassing Board and the other elections can be discussed later
in this regard.
FY 78-79 CIVIL DEFENSE BUDGETS - OPERATIONS (38-010) AND HELICOPTI
(38-020) REVIEWED
Civil Defense Director William Walker, Jr., called to the
Board's attention the fact that the yellow summary sheet for the
Civil Defense Budget contains an error and presents a false pictUI
of the proposed budget. He said that the Grants, Gifts and TrustE
item was added to the budget whereas it should have been subtractE
and, therefore, the budget is a net decrease of $11,210, or 157., j
the past year.
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Concerning the use of the helicopters, Commissioner Wenzel
expressed concern over the fact that perhaps some of the depart-
ments are using the helicopters instead of other County vehicles
and sugge~ted that such usa~e be cut back. Another suggestion by
the Commissioner was to offer the use of the aircraft to the
Federal Government for some of their programs and for which they
might be willing to pay. Commissioner Archer stated that he has
been informed there are no funds available for this type of assis-
tance although they are forcing the County to use them for Federal
law enforcement of marijuana laws, and the like. Chairman Pistor
noted that he has written to the Congressional representatives with
a copy to Representative Hawkins in this regard.
Fiscal Officer Harold lIall stated that from the observations
he has made over the previous 12 months, although he has no facts
~r figures to support them, for the amount of money the COU~lty is
spending on Civil Defense and Helicopter Operation, for the capa-
bility the County has, the County is in as good or better position
than other counties with similar conditions.
In response to Commissioner Wenzel, Helicopter Pilot Sanborn
said that he performed no specific functions for the Zoning Depart-
ment while assigned to that department, with Commissioner Wenzel
observing that no replacement personnel should be requested by
the department due to Hr. Sanborn's :t'eassignment, with Commissioner
Archer adding his conru~rence to Commissioner Wenzel's statement.
County Manager Norman advised that a cost allocation program
is being developed whereby a record will be kept of the various
County departments using the helicopter. Also, said Mr. Norman,
further detailing could show the costs for the use of the heli-
copter incurred by the Sheriff's Department in identifying drug-
trafficking, and the like. It was pointed out that the cost of
maintaining the helicopters figures out to approximately 70 cents
per citizen.
The matter of hangar rents was discussed with particular
emr-hasis on the proposed rental of office space for the Helicopter
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Pilot at th~ airport in the amount of $1,200 annually plus telephone
costs of approximately $120.00. Hr. Sanborn explained his reasoning
behind the request, stating that it would make for a more effici~nt
operation. It was the consensus of the Board that the matter be
deleted for another year at least and the total of $1,320. was directed
to be removed from the budget.
Chairman Pis tor commented on several miscellaneous items in
the budeet which show increases over the present budget and, also,
the maintenance items on the UHl-B Helicopter. 11~. Sanborn explained
what is included in the Scheduled l1aintenance item and also the
necessity for providing funds for unscheduled maint~nance, which
he pointed out is a conservative figure. Chairman Pis tor recalled
that the second helicopter was purchased for the purpose of supply-
ing spare parts and questioned the need for the liability insurance
on the second aircraft. Mr. Walker stated that the second one has
been uscd as backup to the first one and, as long as possible, both
are being kept operable, commenting that the second one is in as
equal, or possibly better, condition than the first one. Mr.
Sanborn stated that it will eventually be used for parts:
thereby decreasing the liability insurance. The question of
deterioration of grounded aircraft was discussed with
Mr. Walker explaining that they do not deteriora~e as rapidly if
kept flying with Commissioner Archer agreeing, stating that it
is better to run an aircraft five hours or more a month and main-
tain it than to let it sit and allow the parts, particularly in the
engine and the hydraulic system, to go bad. Returning to the natter
of insurance, Mr. Walker said that he would investigate the possi-
bility of obtaining "fleet" insurance on the aircrafts.
Concerning the travel expenses contained in the budget,
Nr. Halker said that there are four meetings scheduled for the
next fiscal year plus a graduate seminar to complete the require-
ments to be fully qualified as a local Civil Defense Director which
has been mandated by the Federal government and a new requirement
this year.
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Lengthy discussion following concerning the matter of pro-
viding a shield for th~ emergency generator which will be 50%
funded by the Federal government if it i8 built to protect it
from nuc~ear fallout. If ~ simple storm shelter were to be built,
the cost 'o1ould be between $8,000 and $10,000 with no reimbursement
from the government.
In summary, Ch6~rman Pis tor expressed his desire to have the
two budgets under discussion trimmed, if possible, and suggested
that some of the items, miscellaneous supplies and what not, should
be carefully looked at to see if it i8 all really needed.
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The meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair - Time: 3:15 P.M,
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