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Agenda Item No. 9C
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COLLIER COUNTY
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Item Number:
Item Summary:
Meeting Date:
9C
Commissioner Henning item for discussion.
6/2412008 90000 AM
Prepared By
Sam Tucker
Executive Aide to the BCe
Date
Board of County
Commissioners
BCC Office
6/171200811 :46:08 AM
Approved By
Sue Fi Ison
Executive Manager to the BCe
Date
Board of County
Commissioners
Bce Office
6/17/200811:56AM
Approved By
John A. Yonkosky
Director of the Office of Management
Date
County Manager's Office
Office of Management & Budget
6/17/200812:40 PM
Approved By
James V. Mudd
Board of County
Commissioners
County Manager
Date
County Manager's Office
6/17/20083:19 PM
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May 8, 2008
Re: Meeting Summary Minutes - Clam Bay Permit meeting on 04/30/08 with FDEP at
Fort Myers office.
From: Gary McAlpin
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Attendees: Jon IgIeheart - Ft. Meyers FDEP
Lucy Blair - Ft. Meyers FDEP
Lainie Edwards -Tallahassee, Beach and Coastal Systems - FDEP (By
Conference Call)
Mike Bauer - City of Naples
Doug Findley - Mooring Bay and City of Naples
David Busier - Seagate Homeowners Association and City of Naples
Jim Burke - Pelican Bay Services Division (PBSD) and Coastal Advisory
Committee
Tim Hall- PDSD consulting engineer
Marsha Cravens - PBSD's Mangrove action Committee
David Roellig - PBSD
Summary Minutes:
1. The Board of Commissioners directed on 4/2212008 that the existing 10 year
permit not be renewed and sunset after the one year extension has been granted..
They directed that Pelican Bay continue to perform mangrove maintenance with a
5 year mangrove maintenance permit ( the longest they can get up to 5 years) if
approved and appropriate with FDEP. Additionally they directed Collier County
staff to develop a master plan for the estuary of which mangrove maintenance
would be one portion. Any permits required to execute the master plan would be
the responsibility of and obtained by Collier County.
2. A meeting was held with FDEP on April 30, 2008 to discuss and resolve
permitting issues based on direction received from the Board of County
Commissioners on 4/2212008.
a. FDEP also confirmed that the existing 10 year permit will sunset and no
new 10 year permit will be issued. A one year extension of the existing
permit has been applied for and is being processed by FDEP in
Tallahassee. This extension is being processed and it seems as though
there are no objections to its issuance. This extension would allow:
i. The Estuary discussion group's time to complete their studies
required. to develop a new pennit and master plan. John Igelhart
indicated that from the pass south, it may take several years to
work through the studies, science and permitting.
ii. Dredging of the pass if necessitated by storm activity.
b. Jon Igleheart, FDEP Ft. Meyers stated that the maintenance of the existing
channels and mangroves could be rmdertaken without a new permit since
this would be maintenance of already permitted activities. The mangrove
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related work falls within a maintenance category and does not require a
permit either.
c. If any new work was considered., then permits for that work would be
required.
d. Conversion of the ClllTent permit to an operational permit was discussed.
Tills would make the management plan permanent for mangrove
maintenance. Lainie Edwards, FDEP Tallahassee was not sure that this
was a possibility with the existing permit and will look into it.
e. Mike Bauer indicated that the current management plan may have been
good for the mangroves but not necessarily good for sea grasses or water
quality in Outer Clam Bay.
f: This new permit would be based on the configuration of the existing
permit until such time (if any) that the county can justify a new tidal prism
and dredge configuration.
3. Additionally, the following items were discussed in the 4/30 meeting with FDEP
not directly related to mangrove maintenance activities or the one year extension
application:
a. 33 channel signs! markers will be set to resolve compliance issues
b. The major study anticipated is the mixing studies for the entire estuary. It
. will be conducted by Collier County staff with PBSD cooperating as
required.
c. Development of the new management plan will be the responsibility of
Collier County and be the product of the work of the Estuary Discussion
Groups. This master plan will not be required to have begin-end dates. It
will, in effect, be an "operational" management plan used by the county
and not regulated by FDEP.
4. The new permit will bear the name of Collier County with the PBSD being a
permittee for mangrove maintenance ouly.
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TuRRELL, HALL & ASSOCIATES, 1Ne.16
MARINE &: ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING
3584 Exchange A\'enuc., Suite B . Naples, Florida 34104-3732. (239) 643-0166 . Fax (239) 643-6632
April 30, 2008
Membel'll of the Bowd,
I wanted to provide a written SUlWIllIIY of meetings line! discussions that I bave been involved in during !be pasl
month. 'This is provided to give you an updale on various activities on-going in the System as ....."Il as to inform )IOU
about items tbB.t you might not be aware of.
I have been attending several SIIbcomrnittee meetings that were formed as part of the Clam Bay Estuary
Improvement Discussion Group under Mr. Gary McAlpin's direction. I have also been cooperating with the Coastal
Zone Management office in reganb to the "Idle Sp<<d" and informational signage that is required Ill; part of the
existing pennit.
NavieatioD Group
This group met on April 9 and discussed red and green navigational marloors that would run from juSI outside of
Clam Pass down to Seagate. My office produced lIll exhibit that shows the proposed locatiollS for the markers that
the group discussed. The Coastal Zone Management office is pursuing the required peoni1s for these mark.c:rs from
DEP. Coast Guard, and FWC. 1b.is group also briefly discussed the lnfonnational signage but I will go into more
detail on that below.
Water Oualitv and SAmnlin9
11Jis Group met on April 11 and discussed existL'Ig sampling in the s~'SItC1 as well as proposals for increased or
additional sampling. 11Jis discussion was limited to Outer Clam Bay. P8SD CUlTeIltly collects 3 samples from tbis
bay and it was the opinion of the group that an additional 2 samples would provide a better picture. PBSO collects
water from the Seagate culverts. the canoe launch area, and the south boardwalk area. Additional samples from the
middle of the bay and from the Seagale canal area were discussed. 'The PBSD samples include testing for or
collection of about 18 different parameters. The proposed testing would follow the City of Naples' protocols
cstablisbcd in their kSling of Naples Bay acd would include testing for or collection of about Z8 diffen:n.t
parametel"l. Additional parametel1i not included in the current PBSD testing include various metals su<:h as c:oppe:r.
aluminum, zinc, and arsenic as weU as some additional field measurements sucb as salinity, color, and seccl1i depth.
I can provide a complete list if anyone Wllnts to see this, Also discussed was cenification of the people collecting
the samples. If the intent of the sampling is to be able to provide data to tbe Stale (througb STORET or other
database) then ocrtain criteria have to be met with l'1lgard to the sample collection and subsequent testing. The
County Lab<Jralmy is certJfled for the le&ling but nollC of Kyle's people are. If PBSD wants to be able to provide
data to the state !ben II sampling certiflcatiOll needs to be obtained. Training is a one-day course offeted in
Gainesville, Fl. Information on the training IS online 81 hUp:/fwww.treeo.uft.edulcourse.a.sp,,?c=23J4&v=39. L <>r
someone from my office. will be getting this training lIS well.
Marine Life includine SeaeNsses
This group melon April 23 to discuss tbe seagrass monitoring as well as any additional information collo::tion that
could be useful in the formulation offutwe management decisions within the system. Again, this dj'lCu""ion was
pretty much limitod to Outer Clam Bay with respect to the seagrasses but included the northern portions of the
s~!em as well in the ciiSCllSsioDs !elated to fish and invenebrares. Diffetent techniques for monitoring of the
seagrasses were di;;cu~d along with the benefits and/or limitations 118sociated with the different techniques. The
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di&cussion led to a consensus tIIlU in order to track trends tIrougIK)~1 th: Bay llD&lcad elf 10 smaller kDPll-~lIM"
done now), II program of hi-annual moni1oring of 30 SItes randomly chosen witIti1 Outer OlllL Bay would be betttr
suited to this than the transect monitoring currently collected (which is deo.ig:ned 10 track changes in ,;maD defined.
areas.) lfthe goaJ is to track actU8l acreageof!1Cagras5es, thc:D three or five YeM syslcmatic surveys of the ~ Bay
L:OUld also bc conduclCd in addition to the bi-annual moniloring.
Also dismilSed was the JlOssibility of a mapping ~ffort to delineate the other ~nthic communities wit.hin the system
(sucb lIS clams, oysters, ere,) and to catalog !he m)tiacl ofspecies found within the system, bolh plant and animal.
This would indude algae, lOvc:rtebrates (snails, conchs, nmicares, womu:, etc.), and fish. All of this dula would be
assembled 00 give an overall picture of the Estuary lilld could be used for comparison purposes witb other systems
throughou: the County to provide an overview on the health of the system (i.e, healthier systems should support
healthier communitiC5 of dh'crse org!lD.isms).
Development and Submittal of 10 >lear Manal!elDcnl Plan
'This group also met on April 23 to discuss the d.''elopmenl of a new lll>lDagernellt plan. An overview of tile minuteS
of this meeting is below:
. A Mangrove Maintenance permit would be developed. applied foc and submitted by Pelican Bay
Services Division.
i, The permit would be submitted to tile County Manager for approval.
~i, The permit would be issued to Collier County-Pelican Bay Services Division_
iii. The permit would be forwarded to the FOE.? and USACE lor approval ar.d issue
iv. FDEP would determine the length of issue but 5 years was discussed at the Bee meeting.
. A second permit fur everything else would be developed by Collier County fur the balance of the
Estuary.
It was abio dIscussed in this meeting that:
· The., work task groups would continue to discuss and ~ol vc the areas of concern tbat were
previously identified.
· The work groups output would form the basis for a master plan tblll would be used to manage the
eSlIlary. The MllIlgrove maintenance g!'OUp ove:-seen by PBSD would be one additional piece of
the rna..ter plan.
. The master plllll VI'Ould be presented to The BCe, the City of Naples and the PBSD for approval,
· Any permits that would be needed to execute pottions of rite master p~an would be obtained for
thai specifIC pi"c;e.
· This master plan would not necessarily be presented to FDEP far inclu.,ion into any permit bUl
would rather be a local communit)' working document.
Ancillary to lhis meeting, there was a meeting with DE? 011 April 30 to discuss potenti1l.l concerns that DEP might
bllve and 10 get direction from DEP on permining 1I.lternstives_ Local DEP representatives stated that the
maintenance of the existillg cbannels and possibly the mangrove trinurung as well could be undertaken without d
new permil since this would be maintenance of already pernlltled activities. However, jf !ltIy new work was
considered. tllen pennilS for that work woold be reqL'ired. Also discussed WlIS the con,'clSion of the current permit
to an opc.rat;cnal permit which would in effect make the managcment plan permanent and allow ongoing activities,
Howe.er, the TaDollassee DEP representative was not sure that!hi< "'AS 3 possibility with the exi.ling permit. The
extensior, i~ being pt\XJellsed and it seems as though there are 110 objections to its issuance. With the exlnl year,
PBSD can procen a IIlWlgrove management plan (Maintenance and Mmagemmt Plan) that can be permitted
through the local Ft. Myers office of DE?, This new permit would be issued accOfwn@to the new manageIllCllt plan
and would have the ability to be converted to an opcratiOlllll Slatus which would make the Management Plan a
permlll1cnl do..-urnent.
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According to the dircclion of the Boa.nl. I ha\'e been working on tr)ing to resolve the idle speed and seagr/lllS
information signage with DF.P and the FWC. TIlt Coastal. Zone Management office bas also been working on this
issue. It is appa..-mt that the existing permit must be modified due to the fact that the signage required can not be
permitted by FWC. To modify the permit. there are essentially three optiOll5:
. Remove the &pedal condition completdy and eliminate the requirement for thelle signs.
. Leave the Idle Speed sign requirement but eliminale the requiremellt for the Tilt Motor sign.
. Leave the Idle Speed sign requirement and change the language of the Tilt Motor sign to something that
would be allowed by FWC.
The Coastal Zone Management office is pursuing the third option in thm they are requesting coniumation from the
FWC that the language "Sea.gra~!\Ci and Natural Resources Present - Please Proceed with Caution" could be
permitted lllld would then replace the tilt motor language cumntly req aired in the Permit.
Since the permit has to be modified, I am teqlU'Sting that the signage locaIi.on also be moditied so that the signs
could be placed on the existing bridges instead of on separate poles in the bays. This would eliminale four poles and
make installatioo and maintenance IllIlCh easier. A pole would still be needed at the entrance to the Passlllld the one
at Seagate willlikel)' need to be replaced.
Canoe Trail
Based on !101IlC calls to FWC with respect to the navigational markezs, questions arose <IS to the nature and Slal"" of
the canoe trail. I have agreed 10 pn)Vide a package to FWC regarding the current staros lIIId condition of the trail
markeIll. They (Tara Alford) have requested this update on the status to make sure that this permit is sliU in
complill1\ce. I will be coordinating With Kyle to identify md ~Ia.ce any signage that tI'.ay be degraded.
Manll2effient Plan
I have "".,en incorporating conunents ODd changes into the plan hlllied on the past months activities relllled to the
BOCC decision and Ibe agreement that PBSD will be subl!l.it'dng tbe management plan for review and undel'T.ak:ing
future oversight of the mangrove maintenance. It is my undezstanding that this wlll go to the Clam Bay
subcommittee firs: and then be presented to tlle full Board at the subsequent meeting.
Sincerely,
Tim Hall
Senior Biologist
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Chairman Sorey stated he visited the site and recognized the erosion taking
place in the area.
Mr. Hendel moved that the Coastal Advisory Committee approve the project
of putting in T-Grolns In Marco Island at Hideaway Beach on the theory
that Hideaway Beach is subject to high erosion and that erosion control
structures or T-Groins are an appropriate permanent solution to the
problem. Further, after all the presentations, the Coastal Advisory
Committee (CAC) makes a recommendation to the Board of County
Commissioners that the CAC favors using "public interest" as a mechanism
for approving this project. Second by Mr. Rios. Carried unanimously 8-0.
Mr. Pires abstained.
Ms. Kulpa noted in reference to the previous Marco Island T-groin project, she
researched the issues with this project and it was started during turtle season
which created all sorts of issues and problems and recommended that the new
approval and subsequent construction take this into consideration and seek to
avoid these problems.
IX. Old Business
1. Wiggins Pass Modeling Work Group update
Gary McAlpin noted the Group met on April 3, 2008 and submitted the minutes
from the meeting as well a summary entitled "Wiggins Pass Modeling Group
Discussion Meeting, April 3, 2008."
Ms. Kulpa, Group Leader noted that at the last Estuary Conservation Meeting
Gary McAlpin provided a presentation on the Work Group. The meeting was
well attended by the boating community and the presentation was well received.
She noted that the solution is for the 3' draft vessel requirement.
2. Clam Bay Navigational Markers
Gary McAlpin submitted a letter prepared by Tim Hall of Turrell, Hall and
Associates, Inc. that provided a summary of the issues involved with the Clam
Bay Permit application. There have been a number of meetings on the
navigational markers and they are moving forward on getting the marker locations
identified. He noted that Pelican Bay Services Division states there is no
violation in this area and further the Division has possibly indicated they will not
fund the placement of the navigational markers. This issue will need to be
resolved. There are a variety of sub-work groups working within the Clam Bay
Discussion Group. In respect to the application submittal, Pelican Bay Services
Division will be responsible for the Mangrove Maintenance portion of the overall
management plan for the County and there is clear direction from the Board of
County Commissioners on how to proceed. They have applied for a 1 year
extension of the permit for emergency operation purposes.
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Mr. Buser noted he attended the Department of Environmental Protection
meetinl!S.
Mr. Burke noted the channel markers are not deemed in "violation", but are now
deemed "compliance issues." The Pelican Bay Services Division is moving
forward with the I year extension of the permit.
Mr. Buser noted that the permit was very detailed and not everyone understood
all of the components of the permit and this lack of understanding of these
components has led to misinformation for various individuals. He commended
Gary McAlpin's handling ofthis issue with the various groups involved.
X. Public Comments
Marsba Cravens, Mangrove Action Group stated that in respect to the Clam Bay
Permit signage requirement she has been in contact with Tara Alford and Major
Ouellette of Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission, (FWC) and studied the permit.
Thc signage for "raise your props" is not doable via the Statute. With respect to the
markers, this area is not a maintained navigable waterway and therc are a variety of
navigable waterway definitions depending on the various agencies contacted. The
permit is not in violation or in non-compliance in this aspect.
Mr. Buser noted the Clam Bay Restoration Management Plan requires the channel be
marked by Coast Guard approved navigational markers. The Corp of Engineers
permit incorporated the plan as official language in their permit. The Department of
Environmental Protection permit addresses the signage regarding tilt motors up, etc.
The decision regarding appropriate sign language is addressed by FWC and this
compliance could be an issue. He further stated the definition of navigation is not
determined at the local level, it is determined by the State and Federal Government
and is clear, it is either a navigable waterway or not. The channel is a navigable
waterway by definition and the argument should be set aside.
Chairman Sorey noted that the Coastal Advisory Committee does consider the
channel as a navigable waterway.
XI. Announcements
Gary McAlpin stated that Eddie Chesser, Sr. Beach Operator has been selected as
Employee of the month. He is the first County Employee to receive this award twice.
Chairman Sorey requested Mr. Chesser's presence at the June meeting for an
official "Thank you."
XII, Committee Member Discussion
Mr. Sullivan stated this is his last meeting as his term has expired. He has enjoyed
serving on the Committee. He encourages other citizens to take advantage of serving
on the County Advisory Committees.
The Committee thanked Mr. Sullivan for his service.
Chairman Sorey requested Gary McAlpin make a recommendation in June on the
status of whether the Committee will or will not meet in July.
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Advisory Legal Opinion - Location of public meeting; release of public records
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Florida Attorney General
Advisory Legal Opinion
Number: AGO 96.55
Date: July 15, 1996
Subject: Location of public meeting; release of public records
Mr. Jeffrey D. Olson
Sunrise City Attorney
10770 West Oakland Park Boulevard
Sunrise, Florida 33351
RE: GOVERNMENT IN THE SUNSHINE LAW--PUBLIC RECORDS LAW--
MONICIPALITIES-meeting to be held in public facility normally open to
public; release of board records not dependent upon vote of pension
board. ss. 119.07, 286.011, Fla. Stat.
Dear Mr. Olson:
On behalf of the City of Sunrise, you ask the following questions:
1. May the police pension board hold public meetings in a conference
room located in a building that may be accessed by the public only by
providing identification and leaving such identification with the
duty officer as security for a numbered electronic key used to access
the building's elevators, and where permission must be given in order
to enter the room where the meeting is held?
2. May a police pension board submit a public records request to the
board for a vote as a condition to release of its records?
In sum:
1. The cit~police pension board should not hold its meetinqs in a
facility where the public has limited access and where there may be a
"chilling" effect on the public'S willingness to attend by requiring
the public to provide identification, to leave such identification
while attending the meeting and to request permission before entering
the room where the meeting is held.
2. A police pension board may not condition the release of its
records upon a vote of the board; such records are open to the public
in the absence of a statute providing for the confidentiality or
exemption of such records.
According to information provided to this office, the city is
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concerned about the J.iabiJ.ity it may incur if an agency of the city
is deemed to he in vioJ.ation of the open government J.aws.
Question One
You state that in order to access the fourth fJ.oor conference room in
the city's PubJ.ic Safety CompJ.ex, a member of the pubJ.ic must go to
the officer on duty and provide identification. Such identification
must be J.eft with the duty officer as security in exchange for a
numbered eJ.ectronic key card, which is used to access the entrance to
the first fJ.oor area where the buiJ.ding's eJ.evators are J.ocated. Once
an eJ.ectronic key is obtained, the person must then take an eJ.evator
to the fourth fJ.oor, where a receptionist's permission must be
obtained to enter the inner offices area in which the conference room
is J.ocated. You state that, other than for pension board meetings,
the conference room is not normaJ.J.y avaiJ.abJ.e for pubJ.ic meetings.
According to your J.etter, other faciJ.ities are avaiJ.abJ.e for the
pension board's use.
The Government in the Sunshine Law, section 286.011, FJ.orida
Statutes, requires that meetings of a pubJ.ic board or commission be
"open to the pubJ.ic."[1] As a board created by the city to administer
the city's pension pJ.an and its poJ.ice retirement trust fund, the
five-member poJ.ice pension board is subject to the requirements of
section 286.011, FJ.orida Statutes. [2]
PubJ.ic access to meetings of pubJ.ic boards or commissions is a key
eJ.ement of the Sunshine Law. Section 286.011(6), FJ.orida Statutes,
specificaJ.J.y provides that "[a]J.J. persons subject to subsection (J.)
are prohibited from hoJ.ding meetings at any faciJ.ity or location
which discriminates on the basis of sex, age, race, creed, coJ.or,
origin, or economic status or which operates in such a manner as to
unreasonably restrict pubJ.ic access to such a facility." Moreover, as
you note, section 120.53(6), FJ.orida statutes, whiJ.e not appJ.icabJ.e
to the pension board, seeks to impJ.ement the public's right of access
by stating in reJ.evant part:
"Limiting points of access to meetings, hearings, and workshops
subject to the provisions of s. 286.011 to pJ.aces not normaJ.J.y open
to the pubJ.ic shaJ.J. be presumed to violate the right of access of the
pubJ.ic; and any officiaJ. action taken under such circumstances is
void and of no effect."[3]
This office has advised pubJ.ic boards or commissions to avoid hoJ.ding
meetings in pJ.aces not easiJ.y accessibJ.e to the public. Thus, for
exampJ.e, this office suggested that a pubJ.ic board avoid the use of
J.uncheon meetings to conduct board business since such meetings may
have a "chiJ.J.ing" effect on the pubJ.ic's wiJ.lingness or desire to
attend. Persons who might otherwise attend such a meeting may be
unwilJ.ing or reJ.uctant to enter a pubJ.ic dining room without
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permitted under the Public Records Law is the reasonable time for the
custodian to retrieve the record and delete those portions of the
record the custodian asserts are confidential or exempt, if any. [9] A
procedure that provides for an automatic delay in the production of
records therefore is impermissible. [10]
Accordingly, a procedure whereby access to public records is delayed
until the board of trustees meets to vote on whether or not to
release the records appears to be contrary to the provisions of
Chapter 119, Florida Statutes. I am, therefore, of the opinion that
the board of trustees of the police pension board may not delay
release of its records until such a time as the request is submitted
to the board for a vote.
Sincerely,
Robert A. Butterworth
Attorney General
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[1] See, s. 286.011(1), Fla. Stat., which provides:
"All meetings of any board or commission of any state agency or
authority or of any agency or authority of any county, municipal
corporation, or political subdivision, except as otherwise provided
in the Constitution, at which official acts are to be taken are
declared to be public meetings open to the public at all times, and
no resolution, rule, or formal action shall be considered binding
except as taken or made at such meeting. The board or commission must
provide reasonable notice of all such meetings."
And see, Art. I, s. 24(b), Fla. Const., establishing a constitutional
right of access to all meetings of any collegial public body of,
among others, a municipality at which public business of such bOdy is
transacted or discussed. Such meetings are required to "be open and
noticed to the public .. "
[2] See genera~~y, Times Pub~ishing Company v. Wi~~iams, 222 So. 2d
470, 473 (Fla. 2d DCA 1969) (intent of the Legislature to extend
application of Sunshine Law to "every board or commission' of the
state, or of any county or political subdivision over which it has
dominion and control") .
[3] Effective October 1, 1996, Ch. 96-159, Laws of Florida,
substantially rewords ss. 120.53 and 120.54; the language quoted in
the text is deleted from s. 120.53 and substantially identical
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Advisory Legal Opinion - Advisory Boards, voting requirements
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Florida Attorney General
Advisory Legal Opinion
Number: AGO 2002-40
Date: June 5, 2002
Subject: Advisory Boards, voting requirements
Mr. Gordon B. Johnston
Marion County Attorney
601 Southeast 25th Avenue
Ocala, Florida 34471
RE: ADVISORY BOARDS-COUNTIES-VOTING-GOVERNMENT IN THE SUNSHINE LAW-
advisory board members subject to voting requirements of s. 286.012,
Fla. Stat.
Dear Mr. Johnston:
You ask substantially the following question:
Are advisory board members who are appointed by the Marion County
Board of County Commissioners and who are responsible for making
recommendations to the board of county commissioners on county issues
subject to voting requirements for governmental bodies set forth in
section 286.012, Florida Statutes?
In sum:
Advisory board members who are appointed by the Marion County Board
of County Commissioners and who are responsible for making
recommendations to the board of county commissioners On county issues
are subject to voting requirements for state, county and mun~cipal
bodies set forth in by section 286.012, Florida Statutes, requirinq a
vote be recorded for each member present unless a conflict of
interest exists under the Florida Code of Ethics for Public Officers
and Employees.
Section 286.012, Florida Statutes, provides:
"No member of any state, county, or municipal governmental board,
commission, or agency who is present at any meeting of any such body
at which an official decision, ruling, or other official act is to be
taken or adopted may abstain from voting in regard to any such
deCision, ruling, or act; and a vote shall be recorded or counted for
each such member present, except when, with respect to any such
member, there is, or appears to be, a possible conflict of interest
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under the provisions of s. 112.311, s. 112.313, or s. 112.3143. In
such cases, said member shall comply with the disclosure requirements
of s. 112.3143."
You recognize that the advisory board whose members are appointed by
the board of county commissioners and are responsible for making
recommendations to the county commission is subject to the Government
in the Sunshine Law. [1] The question has been raised, however,
whether such a board is subject to the voting requirements set forth
in section 286.012, Florida Statutes. Your office has indicated that
it believes such boards are subject to section 286.012. I concur in
that conclusion.
Section 286.012, Florida Statutes, refers to state, county, or
municipal boards, while section 286.011, Florida Statutes, is
applicable to the state and its political subdivisions. Thus, section
286.012 is narrower in scope in that it does not apply to all
governmental boards, such as special district boards. [2] Both
statutes, however, refer to meetings at which official acts are
taken. In construing this language for section 286.011, the courts
have held that the requirements of the Sunshine Law apply during the
entire decision-making process. For example, in Times Pub2ishing
Company v. Wi22iams, [3] the court stated:
"Every thought, as well as every affirmative act, of a public
official as it relates to and is within the scope of his official
duties, is a matter of public concern; and it is the entire decision-
making process that the legislature intended to affect by the
enactment of the statute before us."
In considering whether an advisory group appointed by a governmental
body to make recommendations was subject to the requirements of the
Sunshine Law, several courts of this state have also concluded that
such groups Were subject to the provisions of section 286.012,
Florida Statutes. For example, in Ruff v. Scho02 Board of C022ier
County,[4] the court rejected the trial court's finding that the
organizational meeting of a sex education policy task force was not
subject to Chapter 286 and that section 286.012, Florida Statutes,
did not apply to the task force, stating that the "conclusion of the
trial court was .in error."
In Krause v. Reno,[S] the state attorney had filed a complaint
seeking to have the trial court declare that any meeting held by an
advisory board appointed and used by the city manager to screen
applications and make recommendations for the position of chief of
police was subject to the provisions of sections 286.011 and 286.012,
Florida Statutes. The Third District Court of Appeal affirmed the
lower court's order, which provided among other things that "the
defendants and any replacements or substitutions appointed in
addition to or in substitution of any or either of them are subject
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to the government in the Sunshine Law and subject to Sections 286.011
and 286.012 of the Florida Statutes."
Moreover, as you note, section 286.012, Florida Statutes, refers to
the official decisions or acts taken by a board. The term "official"
is generally defined as "belonging or relating to an office, position
or trust."[6] Since the duties of the advisory board are to make
recommendations to the county commission, an official act of such an
advisory board would appear to encompass the voting on such
recommendations.
Accordingly, I am of the opinion that advisory board members who are
appointed by the Marion County Board of County Commissioners and who
are responsible for making recommendations to the board of county
commissioners on county issues are subject to voting requirements for
state, county and municipal bodies set forth in by section 286.012,
Florida Statutes, requiring a vote be recorded for each member
present unless a conflict of interest exists under the Florida Code
of Ethics for Public Officers and Employees.
Sincerely,
Robert A. Butterworth
Attorney General
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[1] See, e.g., Town of Pa2m Beach v. Gradison, 296 So. 2d 473 (Fla.
1974); .accord, Spi~~is Cande~a & Partners, Inc. v. Centrust Savings
Bank, 535 So. 2d 694 (Fla, 3d DCA 1988) (the Sunshine Law equally
binds all members of governmental bodies, be they advisory committee
members or elected officials). But see, Knox v. District Schoo~ Board
of Brevard County, Case No. 5001-2384 (Fla. 5th DCA, May 3, 2002) in
which the court held that a team of staff members who interviewed and
evaluated candidates for principal resulting in recommendations to
the county school superintendent, was not subject to the Sunshine Law
since all the applications were forwarded to the superintendent, who
then decided which applicants to interview and recommend to the
School Board: "AJ.though the team made recommendations, all the
applications went to the superintendent and he decided which
applicants to interview and nominate to the school board. Since the
interview team simply had a fact-finding or advisory role, their
meetings were not governed by the Sunshine Law."
[2] Cf., Art. II, s. 5(a), Fla. Const., the dual officeholding
prohibition which applies to state, county and municipal offices and
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Florida Attorney General
Advisory Legal Opinion
Number: INFORMAL
Date: February 8, 1999
Subject: Sunshine, city commissioners meeting with legislator
The Honorable Walter "Skip" Campbell
Senator, District 33
10094 McNab Road
Tamarac, Florida 33321
Dear Senator Campbell:
This is in response to your request for an opinion regarding the
applicability of the Sunshine Law to a luncheon at which you and the
Tamarac City Commission would discuss matters of concern to the city.
Florida's Government-in-the-Sunshine Law, section 286.011, Florida
Statutes, provides a right of access to governmental proceedings at
the state and local levels, applying to any gathering of two or more
members 0% the same board or commission to discuss some matter which
will toreSeeabLy come before that board for action. [1] Article I,
sect10n 24, of the Florida Constitution establishes a constitutional
Light o~ pUb~1C access to meet1ngs of pub11C bod1es at which official
d~L~ are ~o oe ~aKen, or at wn1ch pUb~1C bus1ness of such body is to
be transacted or discussed. [2] Meetings of the Legislature are
required to be open and noticed as provided in Article III, section 4
(e), Florida Constitution, except with respect to those meetings
exempted under Article I, section 24, Florida Constitution, or
specifically closed by the Constitution. [3]
In the instance you have described, a gathering of the city
commission to discuss matters of concern to the city, the Sunshine
Law would apply if the matters discussed would foreseeably come
before the commission for action. [4] The Sunshine Law applies to any
gathering, whether formal or casual, where two or more members engage
in such discussion. [5] This office has advised that public boards or
commissions should refrain from using luncheon meetings to conduct
business.[6] Public access is the key element of the Sunshine Law and
public agencies are advised to avoid holding meetings in places not
readily accessible to the public. [7]
In the case of a luncheon, people who might otherwise attend such a
meeting may be reluctant to enter a dining room without purchasing a
meal and may be financially or personally unwilling to do so.
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The olear purpose of the Sunshine Law is to ensure the publio' s r.ight
of aooess to meetings where offioial matters are to be disoussed. It
is my opinion that the Sunshine Law's oontinued effeotiveness is
dependent upon the vigilanoe of every offioer who serves on a publio
board or oommission to oomply with its terms.
I trust these informal oomments will be helpful in your oonsideration
of this matter.
Sinoerely,
Robert A. Butterworth
Attorney General
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[1] See, Times Pub~ishing C~any v. Wi~~iams, 222 So. 2d 470, 473
(Fla. 2d DCA 1969); City of ~ami Beaoh v. Berns, 245 So. 2d 38 (Fla.
1971) .
[2] Artiole I, s. 24 (b) , Fla. Const., states:
"All meetings of any oollegial public body of the exeoutive branoh of
state government or of any oollegial public body of a oounty,
munioipality, sohool distriot, or speoial distriot, at whioh offioial
aots are to be taken or at whioh public business of suoh body is to
be transaoted or disoussed, shall be open and notioed to the public
and meetings of the legislature shall be open and notioed as provided
in Artiole III, Seotion 4(e), except with respect to meetings
exempted pursuant to this seotion or speoifically closed by this
Constitution."
[3] See, Art. I, s. 24(b), Fla. Const., supra. Artiole III,
s. 4(e), Fla. Const., states:
"The rules of prooedure of eaoh house shall provide that all
legislative oommittee and subcommittee meetings of each house, and
joint conference committee meetings, shall be open and noticed to the
publio. The rules of prooedure of each house shall further provide
that all prearranged gatherings, between more than two members of the
legislature, or between the governor, the president of the senate, or
the speaker of the house of representatives, the purpose of whioh is
to agree upon formal legislative aotion that will be taken at a
subsequent time, or at whioh formal legislative action is taken,
regarding pending legislation or amendments, shall be reasonably open
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