BCC Minutes 11/20/1979 W
November 20. 1979
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County. Commissioners in
and for the County of Coll ier. and also acting as the Governing Board(s)
of such special districts as nave been created according to law and having
conducted business herein. met on this date at 11:30 A.M. in Workshop
Session in Building "F" of the Courthouse Complex with the following
members present.
CHAIRMAN: Clifford Wenzel
VICC-CHAIRMAN: Thomas P. Archer
David C. Brown
John A. Pistor
ABSENT: C. R. "Russ" Wimer
ALSO PRESENT WERE: County Manager. C. William Norman. Parks and
Recreation Director Rollie Rice; and Deputy Clerk Darlene Davidson.
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PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITY STUDY COMMITTEE FORMED - RESPONSIBILITIES
CLARIFIED
P~rk~ ~nrl Rpr.rp~tion nirpr.tor Rir.p. rpfp.r~erl to a letter dated
September 18. 1979 from Chris'Blunt. Chairman. Parks and Recreation
Arlvi~ory ROllrrl. Hp ~~1rl thAt thp lptt:pr rPlJllp.'lted thl! Roarrl to approve
the formation of a Parks and Recreation Facility Study Committee to
study the feasibility of future Community Parks within Collier County.
He introduced the Advisory Board for the Parks and Recreation Department. in-
cluding Mrs. Ann Goodnight. Mr. Dudley Goodlette. and Chairman Chris Blunt.
Mr. Blunt referred to the above-mentioned letter and explained that
it is the understanding of the Advisory Board that they are to act in an
advisory capacity and to report to the Commissioners as to what they feel
would be beneficial to the County in the way of Parks and Recreation Plans;
therefore. they have requested the Board to approve the Study Committee as
outlined in the letter. He said that since the Comprehensive Plan has been
adopted and Corrrnunity Parks are outl ined within ft, and were to have been
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available in 1979. the P & R Advisory Board urges the Board ,to ,approve the,'-
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Corrrnittee to facilitate the planning of same. "I RECORDa'! MEMO, IAcDtIJl
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members, it was the consensus of the board that there was a need to hdve
input from various sources to establish priorities, including both
financial and location feasibility. He said that he looked forward to
establishing a committee comprised of people with financial and recrea-
tional background to study the feasibility of the two outlined community
parks that are part of the six year budget plan for parks in t"e County.
He pointed out that at this time. the County has no community parks and
the intent of the COIIT,t1ttee wNlld be to develop two parks. similar to
FleischmannPark. which is owned by the City of Naples. He stated that the
question of whether or not community parks are needed. or whether they
are to be just in black and white within the Comprehensive Pla~must be
decided by the BCC. He said that if it is the intent of the Board to
follow through with the planning of the parks. the proposed committee
should be approved.
Commissioner Brown asked how much money would be involved? Mr.
Blunt replied that an actual figure could not be arrived at without the
proper study being made. He said that four years ago a figure of somewhere
near a million dollars would have been needed, however. that figure is
probably not valid now. He said that the longer the County waits the
higher the cost will be. He noted that the cost would U~ determined by
the proposed commi tteo if approved. and remi nded the Commi ss ioners that
at this point. the County has no avallable land. and location dllll 4cquisltior
alternatives must be decided.
Commissioner Archer clarified along with Mr. Blunt. that the
proposed committee would first determine the need for parks for the entire
county, and also search out the possibility of grant funding for these
parks. He said that her~ ill the County there are means available to help
aid the financial aspects of such parks. He stated that he was in favor
of approving the proposed study committee and was in favor of any means
of financing that would not burden the individual taxpayer. i.e. grants.
etc. He referred to the past referendums that failed because the taxpayers
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want parks but do not want to burden themselves with funding them
through additional taxes. Commissioner Brown stated that he was in
favor of the formation of the committee to study all aspects of park
planning. because he feels more parks are needed within the County to
help escape the pressures of work and everyday living.
Commissioner Brown moved to approve the Parks and Recreation
Facility Study Committee. Commissioner Archer seconded the 1~tion.
Chairman Wenzel as~~d if the County was going to reactivate
the Finance Committ~e and ~r. Norman replied negatively, saying that
matter was left indefinite. Chairman Wenzel stated that if the
Committee is formed it is his hope that they make their recommenda-
tions regarding financial feasibility and alternative sources of
financing for same prior to the next election so that the plans may be
put to a vote by the people; particularly if large capital expenditures
are going to be made to implement the parks. He feels it should be the
peoples decision. if alternative revenue sources are such that large
capital expenditures are involved rather than grant monies. Mr. Blunt
concurred.
County Manager Norman directed the Board's attention to pages two
and thrp~ of the afore-mentioned letter. He complimented Mr. Blunt for
being specific as to what th~ proposed committee's function and responsi-
bilities WOlllrl he, however, he proposed that item "C" re securing
appraised value of park sites. and item "0" re engaging in actual negotia-
tion of agreements with land owners. should be deleted from the responsibili
of the committee. Mr. Blunt ugreed to drop these two items from their resp<
sibilities. Mr. Norman related that there are certain strict provisions
set out for securing grants that must be adhered to in order to be eligible
for funds. and the deletion of the items "C" and "0" would be beneficial
to the County for this reason. It was the consensus of the Board that the
committee would rely on estimated values of land and present them along
with their other findings at the time the study is complete. and this could
be done without an actual appraisal. It was also the consensus of the
Board that no actual negotiations would be entered into without their
first reviewing the study committee's recommendations.
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. above-mentioned responsibilities as recomnended by Mr. Nonnan. by the maker
and seconder. The motion carried with a unanimous 4/0 vote.
APPOINTMENTS TO PARKS AND RECREATiON FACILITIES PLANNING COMMITTEE
Commissioner Archer asked Mr. Blunt if the people on the presented
list as members of the Parks and Recreation Facilities Planning Committee
had agreed to serve on same? Mr. Blunt replied affirmatively. Commissioner
Brown proposed that the name rf Mr'. Egon Hill be added to the list.
Commissioner Arrhor mnv~d. seconded by Commissioner Pistor and
carried unanimously 4/0. that the submitted list as follows along with the
name of Egon Hill be approved for membership on the Parks and Recreation
Facilities Planning Committee;
Leigh Plummer
George Pi ttman
Bill Price
Oa ve Koon
A 1 Decamp
Don Ricci
Ed Oates
Jane Hitler
Bill Longshore
Ben Plummer
Mary Evans
Marvin Winninger
Rev. Harold Brown
Maynard Schryver
There being no further business before the Board at this Workshop
Session the Chair adjourned the meeting at 11:45 A.M.