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Naples. Florida. March 20, 1979
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Commissioners in and
for the County of Collier and also acting as the Governing Board(s) 'of
such special districts as have been created according to law and having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 1:30 P.M..in Workshop
Session in Building "F" of the Courthouse Complex with the following
members present:
CHAIRMAN: David C. Brown
VICE-CHAIRMAN: Clifford Wenzel
John A. Pfstor
C.R. "Russ" Wimer
Thomas P. Archer
ALSO PRESENT: Harold L. Hall, Chief Deputy Clerk/Fiscal Officer; Debbie
Pantano. Deputy Clerk; Donald Pickworth. County Attorney; C. Willi,m Norman,
County Manager; Irving Berzon. Utility Director; and Dr. Neno Spagna, Com-
munity Development Administrator.
AGENDA
1. Discussion re Archaeological and Historic Preservation Ordinance
2. Review of Zoning Ordinance
3. Discussion re Excavation Ordinance'"
DISCUSSION RE ARCHAEOLOGICAL AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION ORDINANCE - STAFF
DIRECTED TO COORDINATE WITH INTERESTED PARTIES IN ORDER TO RE-DRAFT THE
PROPOSED ORDINANCE SO AS TO BE MORE SPECIFIC IN DETERMINING THE INTENT OF
5AID ORDINANCE .
Commissioner Archer commented that the proposed ordinance as mentioned is
not specific in determining the exact locations in Collier County which needs
preserving and, also. the exact intent of the ordinance is not clear. He
mentioned the State has regulations concerning archaeological property and he
does not think that an ordinance of this type is necessary at the County level.
Or. Neno Spagna. Community Development Administrator, explained that state
and federal regulations of this type apply only to state and federally owned
land; and, that many historical artifacts are being damaged or taken out of the
County and the intent of the proposed ordinance is to prevent this from happening.
He stated it is not intended to deny the property owners any property rights they
may now possess.
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Commissioner Pistor expressed ~is ~oncern about the ordinance in that
it would be largely an "honor systemll situation wherein the property owner
will have to notify the County if any artifacts are found.
Commissioner Wimer commented that the vast majority of historical sites
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in Collier County are already known and recorded as such.
Commissioner Archer pointed out the problems that would be created if
a developer happens to find some historical artifact once he has already
begun constructIon In that it would cause a delay because it could mean a
holdup of his project if the County had to investigate the site.
Mr. Bill Barton, of Wilson. Miller, Barton. Soll & Peek. Inc., stressed
this point, noting that it would prove to be very costly if a developer has
to stop in the middle of a project and wait for County staff to investigate
a possible historical find on the property under construction.
After discussion, the ~hair directed that Dr. Spagna get together with
interested parties to re-draft the existing proposed ordinance in order to
more clearly define the intent of sa1~ ordinance and bring back to the Board
for further consideration.
REVIEW OF ZONING ORDINANCE - STAFF DIRECTED TO CREATE ZONING CLASSIFICATION WITH
DENSITY BETWEEN "RM-l" AND IRM_2" ZONING. LETTER TO BE DRAFTED FOR LEGISLATIVE
DEI.EGATION SUPPORTING BILL REGARDING HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION QUALIFICATIONS
Commissioner Wenzel made comments concerning the question of constructing
high-rise buildings in the County noting that it creates too much density once
a building is over 20 stories high.
Commissioner Pistor stated he would like a limit to be set at about 10
stories for high-rises.
Commissioner Wimer questioned whether it is the amount of stories a building
may have or what the denisty of that type of building would be.
Commissioner Archer pointed out the great expense incurred when density
is reduced.
Chairman Brown stated he is all for high-rise buildings 20 or more stories.
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Mr. Bill Barton, of Wilso,l, M.ller, Barton. 5011 . Peek. state~ that high-
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rise buildings should not be looked upon as disadvantageous as long as there is
enough "open space" between buildings. He noted that developing entirely in
Single Family districts is much more expensive as well as using up more land.
He commented that multi-family high-density developments require less roadway
requirements as well as less water and sewage requirements. Referring to RM-l
and ~'-2 zoning, Mr. Barton pointed out the great differences between the two
regarding the amount of dwelling units per acre and suggested that possibly
another multi-family zoning classification be created which would be midway
between the existing two. He stressed the fact that the development cost in
multi-family district is significantly lower than in single-family subdivisions.
Mr. lou Capek, interested citizen, briefly discussed with the Board the
need for additional roads and improving existing roads in Collier County.
Mr. Waffa Assaad, of Wilson, Miller, Barton, 5011 & Peek. pOinted out
that the way the present Comprehensive Plan is set up, there must be a range
of flexibility with the zoning classificati~n in order to make the best use
of available land.
Mr. Arnold Lawrence. resident of Marco Island, commented on Transfer of
Development Rights noting that TDR's tend to aggravate the density problem and
the Board should take it into consideration when reviewing zoning classification
Commissioner Wimer suggested the Board consider removing the TOR's from mangrove
lands.
Mr. William Walters, resident of Marco Island, expressed his personal
objection to high-rise buildings but agreed with Mr. Barton's statements that
it is more efficient use of land. He expressed concern about the County's abili
to generate sufficient taxes to take care of the continual growth of the County.
Commissioner Pistor concurred with Mr. Barton's suggestion that a zoning
classification be created with denisty inbetween the existing two classification
("RM-l" and "RM-2").
Commissioner Archer stated he would like further information on how high
denisty areas affect open space, economics, safety hazards, and the like.
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A brief discussion was held concerning the construction of high-rise
buildings in the Park Shore/Seagate area.
Commissioner Wenzel briefly discussed parking problems connected with
small multi-family units such as motels and apartments within the City.
Commissioner Wenzel brought up the problem connected with the taxing
situation reglrdiny mobile home subdivisions. noting that the property
taxes are quite low compared to the amount of people living there. Ho
suggested a letter be drafted to the Legislative Delegation supporting a
bill that would make Homestead Exemption applicable after a certain amount,
Le.. $10.000.
DISCUSSION RE EXCAVATION ORDINANCE - DEFERRED
Chairman Brown stated the discussion regarding the Excavation Ordinance
is to be deferred until next week.
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair - Time: 3:40 P.M.
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