RLAAOC Minutes 11/01/1999 Approved 12/6/99 RURAL LANDS AREA ASSESSMENT
OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE
MINUTES
NOVEMBER 1, 1999
MEMBERS PRESENT
Commissioner Barbara Berry Ann Olesky
Dick Botthof David Santee
David Guggenheim, Ph.D. Richard Smith
Ron Hamel Nino Spagna, Ph. D.
Rodney Harvey Fred Thomas
Dawn Jantsch Sonya Tuten
Andrew Mackie Wes Wilkins
MEMBERS ABSENT
Floyd Crews
Jim Rideoutte
COUNTY STAFF PRESENT
Bob Fernandez, Collier County Administrator
Vince Cautero,AICP, Community Development&Environmental Services Administrator
Bob Mulhere, AICP, Planning Services Director
Bill Lorenz, P.E .,Natural Resources Director
OTHERS PRESENT
Jeff Perry Ed English
Steve Means, P. E. Dolly Roberts
Russell Priddy Tony Roberts
Don Berry Terry Flora
Bonnie Kramer, Ph.D., AICP Alan Reynolds,AICP
Tim Durham Nancy Linnan,Esq.
Ernie Cox Bob Cambric
Ray March Mark Morton
Tom Jones
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was held at the IFAS Center,2686 S.R. 29 North, Immokalee and was called to
order by Chairman Barbara Berry at 6:20 P. M. After recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance, Bob
Mulhere introduced Nancy Linnan, an Attorney hired by the Board of County Commissioners to
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TO: Clerk to the Board/Minutes&Records
FROM: Glenda Smith,Planning Technician
DATE: December 8, 1999
RE: Rural Lands Area Assessment Oversight Committee
Recorded Meeting Minutes
I am submitting the following Minutes to be filed by your office:
1. Summary Minutes of October 13, 1999 Meeting
2. Summary Minutes of Nov. 1, 1999 Meeting
If you have any questions,please call me at 403-2400.
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Community Development&Environmental Services Division
Planning Services
work with the County and with the Committee during the Rural Assessment period.
Additionally, Mr. Mulhere introduced Bob Cambric who was in attendance representing the
Florida Department of Community Affairs (DCA).
NEW BUSINESS
There were no items of new business on the Agenda. David Guggenheim raised the issue of
allowing Committee members to have an individual named as their alternate to attend meetings
when a specific appointee could not be present. He stated that since the Committee may be
meeting for as long as three years, and it was not likely that everyone could make every meeting,
appointing an alternate would provide for continuity. He indicated that this was a process used
by the Army Corps of Engineers during the Alternatives Development Group (ADG)process.
After some discussion, a motion was made to not allow for alternates to be appointed. This
motion was approved by a vote of 11 to 2 (Committee Member Dawn Jantsch arrived after the
vote was taken.)
OLD BUSINESS
Chairman Berry called for discussion on the"Scope of Work" submitted by WilsonMiller on
behalf of the Eastern Collier Property Owners (ECPO) and first asked the Committee if they had
any specific questions or comments. Seeing none, Chairman Berry asked Nancy Linnan to
comment on her observations with respect to the Scope. Ms. Linann provided an overview of
general concerns and recommendations. Ms. Linnan indicated that the Scope of Work generally
covered the requirements of the Final Order,but was specific to the property owned by the
ECPO. She indicated that some additional recommendations to address concerns and to ensure
that the requirements of the Final Order for the Rural Lands Assessment were fully addressed.
It was recommended that a Technical Advisory Committee (TAC) be developed consisting of
pertinent State and Regional agencies and that the TAC meet on a regular basis to review
methodologies and work product developed by the consultants. It was stated that this process
would identify problems or potential deficiencies in methodologies or data collection methods
and data sources early in the process, so that such deficiencies could be addressed upfront.
Attorney Linnan also recommended that the County consider hiring a separate consultant to
address the assessment requirements not covered in the proposed WilsonMiller Scope of Work.
Specifically, Ms. Linnan cited additional land use scenarios, and impacts on State and Federal
owned lands as being issues that required assessment that were not sufficiently addressed in the
WilsonMiller Scope. In response to questions from the Committee on how this process would
be managed, Ms. Linnan indicated that managing the two consultants, coordinating information
developed by both, and communicating this information to the Committee,to the public and to
the Board was staffs responsibility.
Bob Cambric spoke to the Committee indicating that he would specifically request individuals
from the various State and Regional agencies to be appointed to the technical working
committee. Mr. Cambric indicated that he supported the concept of a Technical Advisory
Committee. Mr. Cambric stated that since there would be some transportation-related issues,a
member of the Florida Department of Transportation(FDOT) should be invited to participate in
the TAC.
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After discussion among Committee members with respect to what agencies should be
represented, and whether Federal agencies such as the Corps of Engineers,the Environmental
Protection Agency, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and the U. .S. Fish and
Wildlife Services should be included in the TAC, a motion was made by Fred Thomas, seconded
by David Guggenheim, to include in the Scope of Work,the creation and use of a TAC
consisting of the following agencies:
State Agencies:
Florida Department of Environmental Protection(FDEP)
Florida Fish&Wildlife Conservation Commission(FFWCC)
Florida Department of Community Affairs (DCA)
Florida Department of Transportation(FDOT)
Department of Agriculture
Regional Agencies:
Southwest Florida Regional Planning Council (RPC)
South Florida Water Management District(SFWMD)-Big Cypress Basin
Federal Agencies:
U. S. Army Corps of Engineers (ACOE)
Environmental Protection Agency(EPA)
U. S. Fish&Wildlife Service (USFWS)
This motion was approved unanimously.
Bob Mulhere indicated that there were some staff concerns with the Scope of Work, including
whether or not it covered all aspects required by the Final Order, both geographically and in
terms of other requirements such as impacts of proposed scenarios on adjacent and nearby State
and Federally owned lands,impacts on the existing Immokalee urban area, and whether it fully
addressed public participation. It was recommended that townhall meetings and workshops in
both the urban and rural areas be included as part of the Scope. Staff indicated that it would be
necessary to meet with the consultants and DCA and determine what would be needed to address
all aspects of the Final Order(excluding the Fringe Areas), and then to determine whether these
items would be incorporated into the Scope, handled by County staff; or whether it would be
necessary to hire an additional consultant paid for directly by the BCC.
The Committee had general discussion with respect to these issues. Chairman Berry stated that
the BCC had discussed this matter and had indicated that the BCC would be responsible for
funding requirements of the Final Order not addressed by the ECPO Scope of Work. David
Guggenheim expressed concern that not all aspects of the Final Order were covered in the
proposed Scope. Dick Botthof stated that the Committee needed to be fiscally responsible in its
recommendations and that prior to recommending an additional consultant, all tasks should be
carefully considered to determine whether or not they could be completed by the ECPO
consultant or by County staff. Sonya Tuten stated that she was concerned that staff was not
adequately able to address the issue of concerns with the proposed Scope, although both staff and
the Committee had the Scope for nearly one month. A motion was made and seconded to accept
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the proposed Scope of Work. After discussion the motion was withdrawn and a second motion
was made to continue the approval of the Scope of Work until the next Committee meeting to
allow staff time to meet with the consultants to work out the issues of concern and to return to
the Committee with specific recommendations on the Scope and on any additional work and
exactly who would be responsible for completing any work outside the Scope of Work. This
motion passed unanimously.
Committee member Ann Olesky asked that staff provide the Committee with detailed maps of
the Assessment Area, highlighting all of the various geographic areas, State and Federally owned
lands, boundaries of the ECPO study area, and other pertinent areas of concern. The Committee
unanimously supported this request.
The Committee discussed dates for future meetings and specifically a date for the next meeting.
After discussion,the Committee decided to hold its next meeting on December 6, 1999, at the
Supervisor of Elections Office at 6:30 PM.
GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT
One member of the public spoke, introducing herself as Bonnie Kranzer, and indicating that she
was the Executive Director of the Governor's Commission for a Sustainable South Florida and
involved with the Everglades Restoration Taskforce. Ms. Kranzer indicated that she was a
resident of the area and interested in the proceedings of the Committee.
ADJOURNMENT
At 8:33 P. M. Chairman Berry adjourned the meeting.
Next meeting: December 6, 1999
Time: 6:30 p.m.
Location: Supervisor of Elections Training Room
Collier County Government Complex,Building B
3301 Tamiami Trail East
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