BCC Minutes 04/12/2006 J (w/School Board)
April 12, 2006
MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSION AND
COLLIER COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD
JOINT WORKSHOP
Naples, Florida, April 12, 2006
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Commission and Collier County
School Board in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on
this date at 9:00 AM in a Joint Workshop at the Dr. Martin Luther King, JI.
Administrative Center on 5775 Osceola Trail, Naples, Florida, with the following
members present:
COMMISSIONERS:
Frank Halas, District 2
Donna Fiala, District I
Tom Henning, District 3
Jim Coletta, District 5
Fred Coyle, District 4
SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS:
Kathleen Curatolo, Chairman
Raymond J. Baker, Superintendent
Steve Donovan, Vice Chairman
Pat Carroll, Member
Dick Bruce, Member
Linda Abbott, Member
ALSO PRESENT: Jim Mudd, County Manager
Richard Withers, Attorney
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AGENDA
COLLIER COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
COLLIER COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD
APRIL 12,2006
9:00 A.M. - 12:00 NOON
DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. ADMINISTRATIVE CENTER · 5775 OSCEOLA TRAIL. NAPLES, FLORIDA
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. PLEDGE TO THE FLAG
III. ST A TEMENT OF MEETING GUIDELINES
Members of the public wishing to speak on any agenda item must complete a Speaker
Registration Card for the Board Secretary. No speaker shall indulge in personal attacks while
speaking. All comments and questions are to be addressed directly to the Boards.
Speakers will be limited to three minutes unless granted additional time by the Chair. A yellow
caution light will appear on the timer when one minute remains, and a red light will appear when
the time expires. At this point, the speaker should conclude his/her remarks.
The sound on communication tools such as cell phones and pagers must be turned off while in the
Board Room. No laser pointers will be used in presentations unless pre-approved.
The Chair, with the consent of the Boards, shall have the right to limit public debate on any
agenda item. The Parliamentarian shall enforce the Meeting Guidelines.
IV. INTRODUCTION AND OPENING REMARKS
Raymond J Baker, Superintendent
James Mudd, County Manager
V. SCHOOL CONCURRENCY: STATE OVERVIEW
A. Growth Management Requirements
Mike McDaniels, Planning Director, State Department of Community Affairs
B. School Planning Requirements
Alex L. Carswell, Educational Facilities Planning Administrator,
State Department of Education
VI. SCHOOL CONCURRENCY: WHAT IT MEANS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL
Angela Usher, Intergovernmental Relations Manager, PBSD
VII. BREAK
VIII. NEXT STEPS
A. Scope of Work
Amy Taylor, Long Range Planner, Collier County Public Schools
B. Time Line
Mike Bosi, Principal Planner, Collier County Planning
IX. DISCUSSION AND QUESTIONS
Board of County Commissioners and School Board Members
X. PUBLIC COMMENT
XI. CLOSING REMARKS
Raymond J Baker, Superintendent
James Mudd, County Manager
XII. ADJOURNMENT
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION
The District School Board of Collier County welcomes public comment on any agenda item. You are
requested to keep comments brief and concise and to avoid repetition of the remarks of others. The Board
reserves the right to limit the time for public comment. Please complete a Speaker Registration Card
available at the table upon entry into the Board Room. The card is to be given to the Secretary to ensure
correct spelling of your name in the minutes. The Chair will recognize you, normally after Board
discussion, and request that you come to the podium and state your name for the record. Our meetings are
televised live and are audio-recorded.
Please Note: If interpreters are needed, please contact the Executive Assistant to the Superintendent
at 239-377-0220 at least three days prior to the meeting.
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I. Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Curatolo at 9:07 AM.
II. Pledge to the Flag
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited.
III. Statement of Meeting Guidelines
Members of the public wishing to speak on any agenda item must
complete a Speaker Registration Card for the Board Secretary. No
speaker shall indulge in personal attacks while speaking. All
comments and questions are to be addressed directly to the Boards.
Speakers will be limited to three minutes unless granted additional
time by the Chair. A yellow caution light will appear on the timer
when one minute remains, and a red light will appear when the time
expires. At this point, the speaker should conclude his/her remarks.
The sound on communication tools such as cell phones and pagers
must be turned off while in the Board Room. No laser pointers will
be used in presentations unless pre-approved.
The Chair, with the consent of the Boards, shall have the right to
limit public debate on any agenda item. The Parliamentarian shall
enforce the Meeting Guidelines.
IV. Introduction and Opening Remarks
Raymond J. Baker, Superintendent
James Mudd, County Manager
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Mr. Baker welcomed the Commission and expressed gratitude for the
meeting.
Mr. Mudd mentioned the growth in the State of Florida and increase of
the population therefore the current subject is paramount.
v. School Concurrency: State Overview
Amy Taylor introduced the speakers.
A. Growth Management Requirements
Mike McDaniels, Planning Director, State Department of
Community Affairs
Mr. McDaniels introduced himself. He is a Growth Management
Administrator that administers Growth Management Plans in several
areas around the State. He then started a Power Point presentation
(see attachment) and reviewed the necessity of the meeting.
B. School Planning Requirements
Alex L. Carswell, Educational Facilities Planning Administrator,
State Department of Education
Mr. Carswell continued the Power Point Presentation (see
attachment) reviewing funding issues.
Mr. McDaniels continued the Power Point Presentation (see
attachment) including a review of growth within the State of Florida,
the Purpose of the Program, General Requirements, Statutes and
Rules, Waivers, Exemptions, Adoption Schedule, Penalties, Inter-
local Agreement and Public School Facility Elements.
The Level of Service standards are Florida Inventory of School
Houses (FISH) an inventory of every edifice used for the School
System, and the Core Capacity which involves administrative, media
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center, cafeteria, and hall space. If a portable building is added into
the FISH determiner, carrying capacity level will be raised, while the
Core Capacity determiner might not allow for the portable building
based on adequate cafeteria space.
Mr. McDaniels added that program capacity is another level of
service standard which is a refined evaluation of how the building
space is being used. He then continued the Power Point presentation
reviewing the Capital Improvement Element. Population growth
needs to be taken into consideration with the relationship to the
student growth due to the retirement population. The school and
housing development plan should be created at the same time. The
Power Point presentation continued covering the Intergovernmental
Coordination, Level of Service Standard, Concurrency Service Ares,
Availability Standard, and Proportionate Share Mitigation and
Technical Assistance. More information can be attained at the web
site www.dca.state.fl.us/fdcp/dup/
The meeting recesses at 10:40 AM reconvening at 10:58 AM.
Norman Feder, Collier County Transportation Administrator,
commented that there are a number of issues to work on with
numerous entities with which to coordinate efforts.
VI. School Concurrency: What it means at the local level
Angela Usher, Intergovernmental Relations Manager, PBSD
Amy Taylor introduced Angela Usher.
Angela Usher gave a Power Point presentation ( see attachment)
including the following points:
- Review of statistics on the School District.
- Review of laws regarding school concurrency.
- Review of historical issues in Palm Beach County.
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- Reviewed Funding Sources, Multipliers, TAG, Determining
Concurrency Service Areas including traffic analysis zones, what has
worked well and challenges.
- More information can be attained at
www.palmbeach.K12.fl.us/FM/PD.
Clarifying questions on issues from the presentation were addressed.
VII. Break
Previously taken.
VIII. Next Steps
A. Scope of Work
Amy Taylor, Long Range Planner, Collier County Public
Schools
Amy Taylor gave a Power Point presentation (see attachment)
including the following points:
- Reviewed coordinated tasks, scope of work, and conclusions and
recommendations.
- Golden Gate was discussed since it is a large separate area.
B. Time Line
Mike Bosi, Principal Planner, Collier County Planning
Mr. Bosi reviewed the overhead document "Timeline to Obtain
Compliance" (see attachment) demonstrating the outline of projected
proceedings up to the State deadline.
IX. Discussion and Questions
Board of County Commissioners and School Board Members
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Clarifying questions on the Timeline were addressed.
x. Public Comment
Mr. Black read a written formal complaint aloud to the committees
stating "This letter is a written formal complaint regarding the lack of
permits on construction projects currently undergoing exterior and
interior renovations with the District School Board of Collier County.
Attached is a list of srecific locations that are in violation of the Code.
On Friday March 24t 2006 I stopped by your office at 2800 North
Horseshoe Drive to question whether any of the listed properties had
permits. A customer service specialist in the Building Review and
Permitting Department informed me that no such permits existed. These
public buildings are constructed with Local, State and Federal taxpayer
dollars; they are also used for hurricane shelters. Our greatest concern is
for the health and safety of our children, teachers, and the public that use
these facilities. When possible harm, health and safety issues are
involved a stop work order may be issued. The District School Board of
Collier County has not complied with the law regarding past and
ongoing construction and renovation projects. This lack of compliance
and lack of concern by the District School Board of Collier County
brings up other questions: (1) Do the current projects meet all Local,
State and Federal codes? (2) Have the current projects been reviewed
and approved by Local, State and Federal agencies? (3) Have the
current projects been properly inspected by all agencies? I appreciate
your attention to this matter as soon as possible. If you have any
questions you may contact me at 239-775-3737." He then asked the
Boards two questions: (1) How can Collier County Government delegate
the process of permitting and inspection to the District School Board of
Collier County when they are not qualified and they do not meet the
requirements by the State of Florida, FEMA and the Corp of Engineers?
(2) If the County can delegate the Authority then why has the School
Board allowed construction and renovation to exist on an ongoing basis
without the proper fence in terms of the safety and wellbeing of our
children and teachers?
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Ms. Curatolo replied that she will have School District Staff look into
the issues.
Mr. Baker believes that the allegations are incorrect.
Mr. Hardy replied that there are permits for all of the contracts and he
has a list of them available for after the meeting.
Commissioner Halas assumes that Staff will follow up to answer the
questions.
Mr. Schmitt spoke with Mr. Black earlier this week as to the powers the
School Board has, to do its own permitting and inspections; it is defined
within the Florida Building Code. This information was mailed to him.
The County does not have any authority to oversee construction on
School Board Property.
Bob Krasowski asked questions on the use of portable buildings for
students, illegal students, and the State energy policy.
Mr. Carswell replied that portables are deemed satisfactory student
stations.
Mr. Calabrese noted that impact fees have not been raised since 1992.
He would like to know why it is not set up to have growth pay for
growth.
Ms. Curatolo commented that School Board members have looked into
the issue and will be discussing it at the April 20th meeting.
Ms. Carroll thanked Presenters, Staff, and County Commissioners.
Commissioner Halas noted that it is a pleasure to be at the meeting and
thanked everyone for attending.
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Ms. Carroll thanked Presenters, Staff, and County Commissioners.
Commissioner Halas noted that it is a pleasure to be at the meeting and
thanked everyone for attending.
XI. Closing Remarks
Raymond J. Baker, Superintendent
James Mudd, County Manager
Mr. Mudd closed by saying that it was a productive workshop and he
believes that there will be more.
Mr. Baker concurred that it was an excellent workshop, and he will
schedule a workshop with his Board to continue the discussion. The
planners have done an excellent job.
Ms. Curatolo thanked all the participants of the planning and dialog.
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by the order of the Chair at 12:08 PM
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BOARD OF COUNTY
COMMISSIONERS AND COLLIER
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