BCC Minutes 11/17/1980 S
Naples, Florida, November 17, 1900
LET IT BE REMEMBERED. that the Board of County Commissioners
in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the Governing
Board(s) of such special districts as have been created according
to law and having conducted business herein, met on this date at
7:00 P.M. in Special Meeting (Public Hearings on Budgets for
FY 1980-81) in the East Naples Middle School Auditorium, Estey
Avenue, East Naples, Florida, with the following men~ers present:
CHAIRMAN: John A. Pistor
VICE-CHAIRHAN: Clifford Wenzel
C. R. "Russ" Wimer
Thomas P. Archer
David C. Brown
ALSO PRESENT: William J. Reagan, Clerk; Harold L. Hall,
Chief Deputy Clerk/Fiscal Officer; Edna Brenneman and Virginia
Magri, Deputy Clerks; C. William Nurman, Count~. ~1nager; H. Gene
Willett, Administrative Assistant to County Manager; Robert Best,
Budget Coordinator; arId various Department Heads and Staff Personnel.
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BOARD OF COUNTY cOMHISSIONERS
COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA
SPECIAL MEETINO
Public Hearings on Budgets for FY 1980-1901
November l7, 1980, 7:00 P.M.
East Naples Middle School
Estey Avenue
East Naples, Florida
1. INVOCATION
2. PLEDGE
3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
4. PUBLIC HEARINGS ON BUDGETS AND MILLAGES FOR 1980-l98l
A. Explanation of the proposed budgets' impact on
property taxes.
B. Explanation of proposed budgets.
C. Review of Budgets by Fund*
l. County-wide Funds (General Fund, Road and
Bridge, Water Management and Debt Service) .
2. Unincorporated Area Municipal Service Taxing
Districts (Unincorporated Area MST - General
and Unincorporated Area MST - Roads).
J. All other special funds and MST's.
D. Close public hearings.
E. Approval of Budgets.
F. Approval of Millage Resolution setting forth millages
for each funJ refl~cting ad valorem tax revenue.
5. ADJOURN.
*The county-wide funds and each MST will be discussed by the
Board and, after corrments by the public, will be finalized and
voted upon for final approval.
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AGENDA - APPROVED
Commissioner Archer moved. seconded by Commissioner Wenzel
and unanimously carried, that the aeenda be approved as prepared.
INTRODUCTION OF NEWLY-ELECTED COMMISSIONER ~~RY-FRANCES KRUSE
Chairman Pis tor introduced the newly-elected District 3
Commissioner Mary-Frances Kr'Jse to the audience, observing that
Commissioner Kruse will be assuming her position on the Board
at the Regular Bo~rd meeting on November 18, 1980.
EXPLANATION OF THE PROPOSED BUDGETS' IMPACT ON PROPERTY TAXES
Fiscal Officer Harold Hall began his presentation by
summarizing what the Truth in Millage (TRIM) bill has done
pertaining to the establishment of property taxes. The Bill,
said Mr. Hp.ll, is the result of legislation, primarily starting
with the Governor's program to increase property assessments
to 100%. All other things be~ng equal, he continued, the persons
whose assessment increased more than the average would have had
a sl~ght tax increase and the perbons whose assessment ificreased
less than the average would have a slight decrease. On top of
that, explained Mr. Hall, is the matter of Homestead Exemptions -
the school's Homestead Exemptions went to $25,000 for persons
having such exemption five years or more and, later, tl:e remainde
of the County's tax exemption increased from $5,000 to $15,000
for persons having the exemption five years or more. As a result
of the exemptions, taxpayers with the five-year exemptions
receive a tax decrease and persons not having it receive a tax
increase to make up for those decreases.
At the local level, Mr. Hall continued, there is a decrease
in County taxes for property owners in the City and an increase
for those living in the unincorporated areas as a result of the
agreement entered into with the City to settle the lawsuit agains
the County with regard to Double Taxation. Had it not been for
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the settlement, individual taxes levied by the Board of County
Commissioners for the regular County-Wide budget would not have
gone up, said Mr. lIal1, and individual taxes would have been
held at the same level for the third consecutive year. He also
referred to the many new taxing districts which w~re created in
selected geographical areas which have resulted in new taxes.
At this point, Mr. Hall explained in detail the tax notices
which every property owner received, reviewing the information
contained in each of the three dollar columns on the forms. He
added the observation that the changes in the tax structure in
Florida in 1980 are some of the most far-reachin~ changes that
he has ever seen come about in one year. To illustrate what
"rolled-back millage" means, Mr. Hall referred to the third
column on the subject form and said that those figures represent
what the tax .;ould have been had there beel". no budget :ncreases,
which he said is arrived by taking last year's dollars of taxes
that came in to each taxing authority, and determining what
millage rate would be required to produce those same dollars
und~r the new lOO% assessmAnt. He further stated that it is
requi~ed by law that if there are any millages proposed to be
levied bv the Board that exceeds the rolled-back rate it must be
shown in the publish~d Notice of Tax Increase which he said has
been done, referring to the advertisement. published in the
Na~les Daily News on N0vember 14, 1980, copies of same havin~
been made available to all those present.
To summarize the net impact of the proposed budget on taxes,
Hr. Hall said that for County-Wide taxes that everyone Days,
including the City of Naples, there is a decrease of 25%; for
those persons living in the unincorporated areas there are two
new HSTD's, one for G~neral and one for Roads, which means that
those persons so affected will pay an average of 187. more in
County taxes that those persons paid the previous year; and,
additionally, there are other new MSTD's, primarily lighting
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districts.
EXPLANATION OF PROPOSED BUDGETS
County Manager C. William Norman called attention to the
newspaper handout which he said lists the entire Tentative County
Budget proposed for 1980-81, pointing out that the proposed
changes madc during the Workshop Meeting this date ar~ not in-
cluded. He revicwed briefly the information contained in each
of ' the several columns. An additional handout furnished to those
present consists of a comparison of Ad Valorem taxes, County-Wide
Funds and Unincorporated Area Funds, Budgeted 1979-80 and Tenta-
tive 1980-81, which' was also briefly explained by Mr. Norman
who called attention to the fact that, as shown on the subject
handout, the budge~ reflects only a 9.8% increase for the coming
Year.
Mr. Norman recalled that, following the Board's public
hearing on the TCi1tative Budget held Novp.mber. 5, 1980, all of
the County's Constitutional Officers and deoartments were
directec to review their budget and he was directed to recommend
to the Board Items which might be considered for further re-
ductions in order to make every effort to "hold the line".
These reviews have been conducted, continued Mr. Norman and, in
response to the Boa~d's concern, and that of the public, alter-
natives have been prepared in terms of additional items for
consideration other than those cuts which were made prior to the
presentation of the Tentative Budget. A many-paged list was
provided to the Board for their review and discussion during the
aforesaid Workshop Sessionj however, said Mr. Norman, for several
reasons ther.e were no conclusions reached following that session.
There was sufficient consensus in his opinion, said Mr. Norman,
on reductions which "might flv" which he listed, reading from a
prepared exhibit, as follows:
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1. Four mutters pertaining to water management,
three of which involve consulting services
which the Engineering Dcpartmcnt has suggcsted
they can assumc reoponsibility for with their
existing professional staff.
2. Due to recent resignation of Environmental
Consultdllt to Lhe Doard, altern<:ltives nre
being considered including part-time con-
sulting scrvice, thcreby reducing that budget.
3. Reduction in the number of times the airports
at In~okalee and Everglades City are mowed.
4. Three changes in the services being provided
by the Health Department.
5. Ccncellation of Foster Home Care assistance
in the Social Services Department.
6. Three Library Headquarters items which can
be deleted.
7. Savings of one-quarter of the salaries projected
for positions included in the budget which have
not been filled.
B. Reduction in projected fuel costs due to costs
not rising as dramatically 3S anticipated.
Mr. Norman snid that he is not recommending a lower figure
on the last item in light of recent developments; however,
the balance of the list detailed above he fecls "comfo::-table"
with, following the Workshop Session during which it was discussed.
Mr. Hall added thnt, although thern is no conclusive in for-
mation at this point, it looks as if Federal Revenue Sharing
Funds, of which there are $650,000 budgeted as a part of the
General Fund portion of the budget, would pass in the House
of r~presentatives; however, he said that there is some
speculation that it may not pass in the Senate. In the event
the funds are not received, Mr. Hall said it would be necessary
to look for $650,000 of additional revenue or reduced budgets
in order to balance the revenue and expenditures at the end
of the present fiscal year. He elaborated further on the subject
of Federal Revenue Funds, its impact on local governments, and
the like, follOWing which there was brief discussion on the
Contingency Funds, and other related matters.
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The list of proposed cuts was again addressed with doll~r
figures for each of the various segments provided, and Commissioner
Wimer polling many of the various departments to gain their opinion
on the reductions. Public Works Administrator, Engineer Barksdale,
said that he would suffer no ill effects from the reductions
proposed in Water Management; Library Director Joder commenting
that he can "get along" without the items proposed for deletion
from his budget; and Mr. Norman stating that he would not recommend
a cut in the projected fuel costs based on the instability of the
supply. County Hcalth Dircctor Cox responded to Commissioner
Wimcr by stating that he is recommer.iing doing away with the
prcsent system of weed control due to the fact that the pertinent
orJinance is too costly to enforce, medical personnel are not
needed to determine that an overgrowth of weeds exists, and it
is his belief that a better system can be devised which would be
more effective, have better results, and be less costly.
Commissioner Wimer voiced his opposition to deleting the
$3,000 in the Library budget for the purchase of additional book&.
Commissioner Brown concurred and, referring to the proposed
deletion of water management matters, r~quested the opinion of
the WMAB in this regard. Commissioner Pistor said that it is
his understanding that the advisory board has no objection to
cutting the four items suggested, explaining how the duties
wi II be undertaken by ,)ther en ti ties or, as in the case of the
Lely Outfall Canal project, funds will not be needed for
approximately two years due to the length of time for the
preparation of the EIS by the Corps.
Commissioner IHmer moved, seconded by Commissioner Brown,
that the $3,000 appropriation for Library Headquarters for Book
Publications/Materials remain in the pertinent budget.
Dr. Vernon MacKenzie, local retired surgeon, congratulated
the Con~ission and the staff for keeping the increase in the
County budget at a relatively low level. Dr. MacKenzie stated
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that he was not in favor of decrea~ing or cutting out support
of the clinic at Progress Village nor was he in favor of deleting
the monitoring of Naples Day for health reasons. It was pointod
out that neither of these two items were involved in the recom-
mendations mode up to this time.
Upon call for the question with regard to the Library
budget, the motion carried 3/2 with Commissioners Wenzel and
Archer voting in opposition.
Commissioner Archer moved to remove $l76,970 from the
budget covering those items listed by Mr. Norman, as follows:
l. Co~n. Dev. - EnVironmental/Environmental
Service!;
2. Water Management - General
Consultant to \~HAB - Eng. Fees
3. Water Management - Lely Outfall Canal
4. Water Management - G.G. Red.
Consulting Eng. - Vincs & Assoc.
5. Water Management - G.G. Red.
Eng. Servo - Cli2M lUll
G. Immokalee Airport
Inter-Dept. Payment for Service
7. Everglades Airport
Inter-Dept. Payment for Service
R. Health - All Sections
Travel - Private Vehicles
9. Social Services - Assistance
Foster Home Care
lO. Library - licadquartdrs
A/V and non-book
ll. Library - Headquarters
Other Machinery & Equip.
l2. Health Department
Weed Control .Program
l3. Health - Env. Health
Automated Data Processing System
l4. Salaries Savings
$4,142.
8,333.
12,500.
l2,500.
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6,425.
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4,653.
1, 200.
2,000.
1,000.
23,467.
Total
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$176,970.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner \~enze1 and carried 4/1
with Commissioner Brown voting in opposition due to the inclusion
of water mQnagement matters in the deletions.
Mr. Robert Ferguson, retired Lakewood resident, requested
furt~er details pertaining to the new positions included in the
tentative budget. Mr. Norman listed the positions and the
departments involved together with the reasons for the additional
personnel.
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At thin point, M~. Norman read into tho record a letter
dated November 17, 1980 from local taxpayer Paul Dayton, noting
that, although the writer was in attendance, the faet that he
has a hearing problem requires communicating in writing. Among
the comments contained in the letter were that the public should
be provided with additional information in the news media such
as population figures compared to the number of employep.s, and
the like, together with statements concerning his opposition to
the increase in property taxes.
Chairman Pistor noted that the Parks & Recreation budget
was discussed at the Horkshop Session with a number of items
recommended as possibie deductions. Commissioner Wimer mov~d
that these proposed deductions, listed as Items 55, 96, 97 and
56 on the aforementioned Exhibit I, be retained in the budget.
commissioner Brown seconded the motior.
The following persons expressed strong disagreement with
the proposed cuts:
l. Mari-Bea Coles - Naples Junior Women's Club
2. Don Bar~on - Everglades City
3. Esther Clark - Gulf Coast Little League
4. Jerry Primus - ~resident of Evening Optimist Club
5. Marshall l~ebb - Naples Manor Property Owners Assoc.
6. Ray Jones - Naples resident and taxpayer
7. John Iomurri - Little League pioneer
8. Ron Dawson - Bonita Shore resident
Speaking in support of removing the Parks & Recreation
maintenanc~ of ballfields, and the like, from the budget were
Marvin Bell, who suggested that it is the parents' responsibility
to maintain the ball parks, and North Naples' resident Mike
Zewalk who voiced the opinion that the Parks & Recreation budget
of $579,000 is excessive.
The motion not to remove tr~ four Parks & Recreation items
from the budget carried 4/l, following roll call vote, with
Commissioner Henzel voting in opposition to all but item 1197 -
P & R Parks & Other Properties, Service to Little Leagues,
suggesting his support for that program.
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Mr. Robert Cooling, with the Lokewood SinQle-Family Home-
owners' Association, objocted to havinQ to speak aQainst emotional
matters such as Littlo League when, in his opinion, there are
significantly larger dollar amounts in tho budQet which should
be considered for removal.
RECESS: 9:00 P.M. until 9:08 P.M.
Chairman Pis tor brought up for discussion the suggested
reduction in operating hours at the Marco and Naples Transfer
Stations and the closure of the Carnes town Station.
Commissioner Archer moved, seconded by Commissioner Wimer,
tnot the subject items remain in the budget without change.
Mayor Herman Askren of Everglades City said that closing
the Carnestown Transfer Station would be a mistake, commenting
or. the benefits of the Station to not only Everglades bu~ also
to the Ochopee, Chokoloskee, and adjacent communities.
Mr. Ira Evans, representing the Marco Isla~d Taxpayers
Association, opposed closing down the Transfer Station on Marco
Island, if that is what is bJing recommended. However, he said
a bigger concern is the fact that, even though the increase in
the budget is only 8' to 9', it is still $3,000,000 more than
the previous year and suggested that between 5' and lOX be
arbitrarily cut from the budget and a ceiling be placed on
personnel effective immediately. Mr. Evans called attention
to the large cash carryover from the previous year with Mr. Hall
explaining that it is the Board's philosphy that revenues
carried ov~r from prior current revenues be used to offset
taxes rather than used for special projects. Chairman Pistor
also pointed out that cash carryover is needed to fund the
budget from the beginning of the fiscal year until tax monies
are received, as well as being used for cutting taxes.
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Dr. MacKenzie spoke in favor of the motion on tho floor
to not alter the Transfer Station operations because it is an
important function to dispose of solid waste in a sanitary way
that docs not impair health or offend the senses of the people.
It WQS Mr. Zewalk's viewpoint that the hours of operation
of the stations could be curtailed without harm.
Upon call for the question, the motion carried 4/1 with
Commissioner Wenzel opposing that portion of the motion for
not reducing ~he hours of operation of the Naples and Marco
Transfer Stations.
Commis~' loner l'Ienzel moved to "put a hold" on all future
hiring for the balance of the year, except for replacements,
and to put a "freeze" on all wages except whe!re cor..mitted.
Chairman Pistor seconded the motion for discuSsion. Following
a roll call vote, the motion failed 1/4 with Commissioners
Pistor, Archer, Brown and Wirer voting in opposition.
Commissioner h'en7.el moved that Item #5 on the list of
recommendations for possible reductions in the budget, Exhibit I,
which Culls for a reduction of $8,024 in the Planning Department
for Technical Map Drafting & Redrafting be acc~plad. Commissioner
Wimer seconded the motion. It was pointed out by the Chairman
that 1981 is the year .during which all precinct and district
lines must be redrawn, whereupon Commissioner Wenzel made the
offer "to do it for nothing. Don't worry about it."
Mr. Al Serenty, Marco Island, commented that one possibility
for reducing the budget in order to possibly fund the maintenance
fer the Little League's ballfields was overlooked by the Board
by their failure to consider reducing the Transfer Stations'
operations to four days a week, adding the further comment that
"you have to run a more efficient ship".
Upon call for the question, the motion carried 4/l with
Commissioner Archer voting in opposition.
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Commissioner Wcnzel movcd to accept management's recom-
n~ndation to further reduc~ the budget by $37,583, as contained
in Item H75 on Exhibit I, Transportation - Road & Bridge,
Roadside Mowing-County Roads. Commissioner Archer inquired if
consideration had been givcn to the hazard insurance which may
be involved. Publie Works Administrator/Engineer Barksdale
explained that, when he was asked to recommend possible cuts,
it was recognized that there would be a minimum level of service
in all of the pcrtinent areas contained in the recommendations.
Mr. Barksdale said that the recommendation under consideration
is not one which he would support because a safety hazard would
be creatcd, explaining the erosion, fires, drainage off the
roadway and vision hazards involved. He said that for the amount
of moncy it costs to keep the roadways mowed the money would
be well spent statj,~g that he c~nsiders it preventive maintenance.
It I,as pointed out that the reco~r.endation is not for discon-
tinuing the operation altogether, but, rather, to reduce the
I".Ur.IDer of ti~,es for mo.....ing the areas from approximately four
to ~hree times annually.
Co~missior.~r Wenzel reiterated his motion to accept the
recomrnendatior. under' discussion. Commissioner Pistor seconded
the motion wh~ch failed l/4 with Commissioners Pistor, Wimer,
Archer and Brown voting in opposition.
A further reco~~~~d~tion was brought up for Boara consi-
deration, listed as Item 83 on the aforementioned Exhibit I,
deleting the Environmental Health - Monitoring of Naples Bay
program, in the amount of $ll,692.
Mr. Paul Gunther Moore, Pine Ridge Civic Association,
requested a summary of what has been cut, so far, from the
budget for FY 80-8l. When the ~esponse was that $l76,570 had
been deducted, his comment was "I think we'd bette:r get to work".
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Commh.sioner Wenzel moved that the recommendation for
deleting Items Nos. 83 and 8l, curtailing the Monitoring of
Naples Bay, and Hcalth Department-Nursing, Progress Village
Clinic, respectively, be approved.
Mr. Thad W. Forbcs, President of the Royal Harbor
Association, read into the record his letter of November 17,
1980 setting forth the reasons why the important function of
Monitoring the Bay should not be eliminated from the budget.
It was Commissioner Wenzel's observation that it was the
consensus of opinior., when the suggestion was previously dis-
cussed, that the Bay is within the boundaries of the City of
Naples and that the monitoring of it should be the responsibility
of the City. Mr. Forbes responded that the condition of the
Bay affects the entire community, not only the City, but the
county surroundir.g :.t. Commissioner Brown said that he made
the motion when the program was first adopted, recognizing
ct the ti~e that the Bay is within the City; however, he said
that it is his feeling that continued monitoring is necessary
to keep the Bay from becoming a "filthy body of water". He
commended Mr. Forbes for his remarks.
City Councilman Wade Schroeder, appearing not as a Council-
man but as a resident of Collier County, said that cutting out
funding for the program would be doing a great disservice to the
total County. Hc reminded the Board that the sewage problem of
the total area also includes the lBO Water/Sewer District which
is partially in the County. He concluded his statement by saying
"If I were you, I would not play around with the health of some
80,000 people in the County".
Mr. Zewalk said that to continually monitor "something" is
not effcctive unless "you do something about it" and, responding
to Commissioner Wimcr, said that if there is money in the next
budget to correct pollution in the Bay he will support it.
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COlrunis5ion~r Wenzel withdrew his previous motion, motioning
instead to accept the rec~mmendation deleting Item H83 - Moni-
toring Naples Bay - from the budget. Commissioner Pistor
secondcd tho motion which f~ilod 3/2, following roll call voto,
CommisSioners Brown, Wimer and Archer voting in opposition.
Tho ncxt item for possible deletion was Item H81 - Health-
Nursing, Progress Village Clinic, in the amount of $12,569.
Commissioner Wenzel recalled that the matter was discussed
during the morning's \,orkshop Session with Dr. Cox providing
input.
CO~i5sioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Archer,
that the rcco~cndation not be accepted and the program be left
in the budget. The motion carried 3/2 wi th' Commissioners
Wenzel and Pis tor voting in opposition.
There was nc d'scussion concerning Item #45 - Animal Control
Department-Public Safety, Neutering & Spaying Program, whereupon
Commissioner Wenzel moved that the appropriation be left in the
budget, stating that it would cost more than the $5,000 involved
to pick up stray animals which would be necessary without the
program. Commissioner Archer seconded the motion which carried
unanimously.
The recormendation for reducing the mowing program with
regard to the Immokalee Cemetery ~rom five times annually to four
times was briefly discussed. CO~i5sioner Wenzel mov~j that the
recommendation be accepted. The motion died for lack of a second
with Commissioner Wenzel requesting that the record reflect his
vote in favor of the reduction. Commissioner Brown also requested
that his opinion be included in the minutes - that the Cemetery
has never been maintained in the proper manner.
Mr. Norman explained that Item H142 - Library-Headquarters,
Salaries, in the amount of $23,968, represents salaries for a
new Librarian III to assist Mr. Joder in the Library Headquarters,
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and a pagc to replace a CETA position which has expired.
Commissioner Wenzel moved that the Board accept the reduction
with the motion dying for a lack of a second, the minutes to
refloct Commissioner Wenzel's vote of support for the reduction.
Commissioner Archer observed that all' of the items to be
considered in Category l, on Exhibit I, have been addressed
and action taken, and moved that the recommendations listed
in Category 2 and Category 3, excluding Item 44, Weed Control
Program, and Item 80, Automated Data Processing System-Health
Department, which ~ave already been approved for deletion, be
retaincd in the budget. The motion was seconded by Commissioner
lHmer.
Pursuant to Mr. Zewalk's suggestion that the Motor Pool
items with regard to a reduction in projected fuel costs be
deducted from the budget, as were previously recommended
by Mr. Norman and recommendation subsequently withdrawn,
COiT..ni.s::;io..cr \';cnzc.'. moved that the items, Nos. 60 and l03
on Exhibit I, be approved for deletion.
It was pointed out by the Chairman that there was a motion
on the floor which had not been acted upon, whereupon he called
for the question. The motion carried 3/2 with Commissioners
Wenzel and Pistor voting in opposition.
Mr. Hall said that the next order of business before the
Board would be for approval of the County-Wide Budget, as amended
with those cuts made thus far, following which would be approval
of the other budgets, unless there are discussions forthcoming
on the MSTD's which have not as yet been addressed. Commissioner
Archer voiced the opinion that up to this point the public has
not had an opportunity to be heard on the items that make up the
General County-Wide funds, such as General Fund, Road & Bridge,
and the like.
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Mr. Elbert Tripp, Vice-President of the Collier County
Civic Fed~ration, expressed the viewpoint that the many small
items which modo up tho cuts in the budget will have the effeet
of reducing tho taxes by only a small fraction of a mill which
J1e said i:J not the "meat" of the ,...hole issue. Nnong the areas
deserving additional attention for possible reductions, said
Mr. Tripp, are in the area of personnel, the unincorporated
areas MSTD's,the Sheriff's Budget, the practice of choosing
the highest bid for studies and ~ppraisals, some of which
could be undertaken by County Personnel, and the like. To start,
said Mr. Tripp, ~ moratorium could be placed on hiring and no
expansion of any functions until an explanation of the need is
given to the taxpayers for their consideration.
Comnissioner Wenzel moved that a lOX reduetion be made in
the overall budget and that where the cuts would be made be
left up to the discretion of the County Manager, recalling that
the same motion was made by Commissioner Brown during the previous
puhlic hCi'lrin<] and r'?jected. Commissie:;er BrO'.':n stated that he
would not reverse the stand he took following the disrespectful
manner in which his prior mocion was received, and which caused
him to reconsider the motion.
Following additional comments by Mr. Tripp, Mr. Norman said
that it would be an admission of guilt if he 'Were to sit by and
allow accusations to be made of waste and tinconcern about trying
to provide the best service possible for the taxes people pay.
He said that he can only protest in respect to those accusations
which apply to his efforts and those of the staff for which he
is responsible, adding the comment that the statements do not
apply and arc not correct. Continuing, Mr. Norman said that
he must assume that the statements were made because the members
of the audience were not present when the Board spent day after
day going over every line item in the budget. examining all tho
justifications that were provided in great detail, and concluded
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that the rcduc~ions that had been made up to that point, and
during those reviews, did roduce the budQat to a reasonable
level. He said that this is not understood by the majority of
the p~oplo becauoe they wero not praoont and that tho meetinQs
were not widely publicized; however, he said he did not want
his silence to be construed as acquiescence.
It was noted for the record that Commissioner Wenzel's
motion died for laCK of a second.
Mr. William Snelling asked for a show of hands from the
audience a~ to whether or not; l) If the taxpayers want to
lower taxes; 2) If they are willing to give up something to
have the taxes lowered; and, 3) If the Commissioners are fairly
representing the taxpayers in the way they have been voting
during the evening, particularly with regard to the manner in
which four of the Commissioners refused to lOOK at the hiring
and the freezing of future hiring. The response was pre-
dominantly positive on thn first two questions, and negative
on the third one.
Mr. Gerald Finger voiced his objection to the hiring of
an additional attorney and, also, to the proposea hiring of an
Assistant Manager to perform an industrial engine~ring type
of study.
Mr. Marvin Bell, Naples resident, touk exception to the
coniusion he experienceu in attempting to understand the budget,
the possible duplicity involved in the recommendation that the
Health Clinic in Progress Village be cut, noting that it is his
understanding that other cuts were recommended which could be
made more equitably, the emotion expressed by the Library
Director in his comments regarding the services which were going
to be hurt if a particular function was curtailed or cut, and
other areas of the budget. He said it is his opinion that more
perso:.s did not attend the budget \~orkshop meetings because it
was felt to be unnecessary because the Commissioners had done
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~ good job in ycars past. After working with tho experts in
the County, he has como to the conclusion that tho overall
budQet "mado pretty good senao" and conQratulated tho Commissioners
with the commcnt that a lot of effort must have been put forth in
the workshops.
Other speakers commenting on the budget were, as follows:
l. Florence Nofrio - Objected to putting back into the
budQet all of the deletions recommended by Mr. Norman.
2. Marshall Webb, Collier County Federation of Civic
Associations - Expressed appreciation for permitting
the public to provide input and urged at least a lO~
cut in the budget.
3. Guy DeLoach - Urged deletion of items not essential,
such as tl1r: $57,000 for helicopter expenses.
At this point, Commissioner Wimer stated his desire to see
the Board adopt a philosophy for contracting out to private
enterprise, if cost effective, for such operations and activities
as roadside-molo'ing, mowing and maintenance for the Immokalee and
Everglades Airports, maintenance of ballfields, as well as parks,
ir.te=ior ~air.~er.ar.cc of ~overn~er.t buildinqs, and the like. He
said proper specifications should be drawn up and advertising
for bids from private contractors solicited on a comparison basis.
Mr. Bruce Holley, East Naples resident, questioned the need
for East Naples Sewer Area B and the MSTD which has been established.
He said that Dr. Cox has been quoted as stating that there is no
documented case of septic tank failure which he said is presumed
to be the justification for the system.
Commissioner Archer moved, seconded by Commissioner Brown,
that the public hearing be closed, all persons presumably having
been heard.
Mr. Richard Freeman requested to be heard regarding the
millage rates on the various lighting districts. He explained
that the millage rate shown for the Victoria Park II Lighting
MSTD is 5.5+ mills and requcsted further information due to
the fact that it is such a small subdivision. Mr. Hall said that
the calcul~tions would be rechecked.
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Lator in the Session, Mr. Randy Randall, Manager of Victoria
Park, also questioned the millage for strect lighting. Mr. Hall
explaincd that the millagc calculation is correct, noting that
the budQ"ct submittcd requires ad valorcm taxes of $799. The
taxable value of thc property, so far, is $144,900 which will
requirc a millage of 5.5+ to fund the budget. County Manager
Norman said that the Board has previously been putting in the
lights and then levying the taxes; however, it was discovered
that "we were going in the hole in a hurry" because the County
has to start paying for the lights on a monthly basis as soon
as they are installed. Therefore, t~e policy which has been
implemcnted is to levy the tax and the lights will be installed
to coincide as closely as possible to when the tax will be
received. Hr. Norman said that he is puzzled about the value
of $l44,OOO on the 60+ lots involved with Mr. Randall commenting
that there appears to be an error since the cheapest lot is
$23,0~0. It was Chairman Pistor's suggestion that Mr. Randall
confer with Property Appraiser Colding with regard to the
valuation.
Mr. Randall continued his comments by stating that he
cannot agree with taxing the property owners before the lights
are installed and said that he was informed by the utility
company that there is no specified time period for the installation -
they are awaitin~ instructions from the County. Public Works
Administrator Barksdale explained that the $799 figure represents
only about two or three months of the coming year's budget at
which time it is estimated that the lights will be installed.
He further explained that funds were budgeted for only the length
of time that the lights will be in for the coming year - July,
August and September, the last three months of the budget year.
Mr. Barksdale suggested that when the propcrty was appraised,
it could have been based on raw land since thc subdivision was
not completed, noting that this will be corrected January 1, 1981.
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Mr. Erccll Bishop, East Naples, said that the people in
that area worked very hard to vote down sowers for East Naples
and ask~d why and how the project qot on the tax rolls. Chairman
Pistor cxplained that there have been enQineerinQ services
provided which have to be paid for and, with regard to the vote,
it was to dctcrminc whethcr thc voters wanted to borrow the
nccessary funding from F~l^ or turn it down and borrow on the
open market. Furthermore, said the Chairman, there has been a
mandate that the scwer system must be put in.
Utilities Division Dircctor Derzon provided additional
information with regiJrd to the system which included the fact
that $5l2,000 is the total involvcd so far to cover the complete
set of drawings and specifications for the entire system,
pointing out that the estimated cost for the project - one
year ago - was $l6,OOO,OOO:. As requested by Mr. Robert
Cooling, Lakewood resident, Nr. Bcrzon explained that residents
of Lakewood would have no assessment for the construction of
the sewer system itself but would be paying a monthly user charge.
Nr. ThoLlas Gormley, Naples Park res ident, ques tioned the
millagc on the lighting district in his area with Mr. Barksdale
expla~ning that the millage of .0437 was for 2~ months.
Responding to Mr. Bruce Holley's question about street
lights, Commissioner Wimer explained that the only charge is a
monthly rental fee ana that t'1ere is no charge for installation.
Mr. Darksdale answered an additional query from Mr. Cooling
regarding whether or not Lakewood residents are included in the
East Naples Fire Hydrant NSTD by advising that they are not.
All persons indicating a desire to be heard having been
provided the opportunity, Chairman Pistor called for the question
on closing the public hearing, motion having been made earlier
by Commissioncr Archer and seconded by Commissioner Brown. The
motion carried by unanimous vote.
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The followl.ng correspondence was filed for the record:
1, Letter dated November 17, 1900 from tho Citizen
Inflation FiQhtcrs, Inc. urQing that the Board
inform the public of the budgeted costs for FY 1980-81
which the State should bear duo to State mandates.
2. Petition dated November 17, 1980 submitted by the
Naples Junior Women's Club urging that the County
Parks and Recreation Department proposed budget
not be cut. (34 signatures)
3. Copy of letter received November 13, 1980 from
Peter Mann to the Property Appraiser's office
objecting to the proposed tax increase.
4. Letter dated November ll, 1980 from M/M T. Chema
stating that they favor cutting the budget so that
property taxes, in dollars, are not above those of
last year.
5. Letter dated November 2, 1980 addressed to Property
Appraiser's Office from Norman L. Marxen registering
his objection to the recently proposed great increase
in the taxes on his home on Tarpon Road, Naples.
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bl'.ffiOVAL OF ElUDGET:::;
commissioner Archer moved, seconded by Commissioner Brown
and c~rried 4/l with Commissioner Wenzel voting in opposition,
that the Dudget for FY 80-8l, as amended, be approved.
RESOLUTION 80-266 ADOPTING THE MILLAGE RATES FOR THE 1980-8l
Il17DGET - ADOPTED
Following the reading of the proposed resolution adopting
the millage rates for the 1980-8l Budget by Commissioner Archer,
Fiscal Officer Elarold Hall read the complete list of millages,
as follows:
FUND
General Fund
Road & Bridge iRegular)
Debt Service
Water Management
U~incorporated MSTD - Roads
General
MST District 1 - Road Construction
2
3
4
5
Lighting - Collier County Lighting Dist.
Imnokalee Lighting
Marco Lighting District
Naples Park Lighting District
Pine Wood Lighting District
Imperial G0lf Estates Lighting
Palm River Estates Unit 7
Kings Lake unit 1
Lakewood Unil 5
Pelican Bay
Forest Lake Home Unit 1
Victoria Park II
Riviera Colony Golf Estates
Lak~wood Unit 6
Lely Palm Dunes
Fire Control - County Fire Districe No. 1
Golden Gate Fire Control
Henderson Creek Fire Cont.
Ochopee Fire Control
Isles of Capri
East Naples Fire Hydrant
Water and Sewer - Sewer Area B - South 1/2
(East Naples)
MILLS
2.2767
.0030
.0307
.005l
.7898
.5427
.0968
.1401
,l645
.2041
.2375
.3999
.0998
.0RlO
.0437
.2790
.6228
.5463
1.9747
.5285
1. 2174
.9275
5.514l
.9584
1. 8073
3.064l
.4525
.6597
.5969
.7506
.5985
.4852
.9524
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Other Special Funds:
Wcstlake Beautification
Port-Au-Prince Engincering
Golden Gate COIIUIl, Center
.l535
7.0266
.4958
ConunissionCL" Archer moved, seconded by Commissioner Brown,
that Resolution 80-266 adopting the millage rates, as adjusted
to reflect the budget changes for the 1980-81 Budget be adopted,
setting forth thc millages as detailed above. Following roll
call vote, the motion carried 4/l with Commissioner Wenzel
voting in opposition.
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Following motion, duly seconded and unanimously carried,
the meeting adjourned at 9:50 P.M.
ATTEST:
WILLIMl J. REAGAN:
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