EAC Minutes 12/07/2005 R
December 7,2005
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER
COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
Naples, Florida, December 7, 2005
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Environmental Advisory Council in
and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this
date at 9:00 AM in REGULAR SESSION in Building "F" of the
Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following members
present:
CHAIRMAN:
William Hughes
Terrence S. Dolan
William Hill
Lee Horn- Absent
Judith Hushon
Irv Kraut- Excused
Erica Lynne
Nick Penniman
Michael V. Sorrell
ALSO PRESENT:
Susan Mason, Senior Environmental Specialist
Steven Griffin, Assistant County Attorney
S tan Chrzanowski, Planning Review
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ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
AGENDA
December 7, 2005
9:00 A.M.
Commission Boardroom
W. Harmon Turner Building (Building "F") - Third Floor
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Approval of Agenda
IV. Approval of November 2, 2005 Meeting minutes
V. Environmental Advisory Council Absences
VI. Land Use Petitions
A. Planned Unit Development no. PUDZ-2003-AR-4991
"Rockedge PUD"
Section 23, Township 50S, Range 26E
VII. Old Business
A. Update members on projects
VIII. New Business
A. Outstanding Advisory Council Member Nominations
IX Subcommittee Reports
X. Council Member Comments
XI. Public Comments
XII. Adjournment
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General Public: Any person who decides to appeal a decision of this Board will need a record
of the proceedings pertaining thereto; and therefore may need to ensure that a verbatim
record of proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which
the appeal is to be based.
December 7, 2005
I. Meeting was called to order at 9:02 AM by Chairman Hughes.
II. Roll Call
Roll call was taken with Irv Kraut being excused. A quorum was established.
III. Approval of Agenda
Dr. Lynne moved to approve the agenda. Second by Mr. Dolan. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
IV. Approval of November 2, 2005 Meeting minutes
Mr. Hughes noted for clarification on page four under "VI. Land Use Petitions,
B. Conditional Use No. CU-2005-AR-7749, "Living Word Family Church",
Section 30, Township 48S, Range 27E" his use of "chemistry" may have been too
broad; he was specifically making reference to pesticides, herbicides and other
environmental chemical applications.
Mr. Penniman moved to approve the November 2nd, 2005 minutes. Second
by Dr. Hushon. Carried unanimously 7-0.
V. Environmental Advisory Council Absences
There are no known absences for the next couple of meetings.
VI. Land Use Petitions
A. Planned Unit Development no. PUDZ-2003-AR-4991
"Rockedge PUD"
Section 23, Township 50S, Range 26E
_ All those testifying were sworn in by Mr. Griffin.
- No disclosures addressed.
Bob Mulhere, RW A Consulting gave a presentation including the
following points:
· Introduced presenters.
· Demonstration of project location on overhead.
· 400 Multi family units are proposed; 111 of the units will be
provided as affordable housing, constituting 80% of the Counties
annual median income of $65,000 or less.
· More than 25 acres will be preserved.
· Several archeological sites will be preserved.
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. There will be restricted access to the conservation areas where the
archeological sites are located.
Emilio Robau, RW A Consulting mentioned a berm and structural buffer
that will be created to make traversing to the conservation areas more
difficult.
Dr. Hushon noted the Oak Hardwoods toward the front area of the
property around the entrance being a slow growing tree that would be
good to preserve.
Mr. Robau replied that the entrance may have to shift due to the planned
road changes for Collier Blvd. (951); though they would try to make every
effort to retain the large Oaks. The Hospital potential access could be
through an extension of Rattlesnake Hammock Rd.
Water flow, discharge, impervious surfaces and listed species were
addressed. It was mentioned that the water discharge will flow to the
same location it does currently with the same amount of water.
Mr. Mulhere noted that the affordable housing can provide housing for
employees of the Hospital to the North. He will email the formula for
figuring affordable housing.
Mr. Robau demonstrated drainage discharge on overheads. The drainage
is directed into the lakes prior to discharge.
Mr. Hughes expressed concern about what will take place once lakes
have silted out also addressing the issue to the public.
Mr. Robau replied that source prevention would be in the home owner's
association documents.
Mr. Chrzanowski will forward an email to Committee Members that
addresses the water management Best Management Practices and request
a representative to give a presentation to the Committee.
Dr. Hushon moved to accept Planned Unit Development no. PUDZ-
2003-AR-4991, "Rockedge PUD", Section 23, Township 50S, Range
26E with staff recommendations. Second by Mr. Dolan. Carries
unanimously 7-0.
VII. Old Business
A. Update members on projects
Susan Mason gave an update including the following points:
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. Staff reviewed the recordings of the Environmental Advisory
Committee meeting regarding Sable Bay finding that the
Conservancy was concerned about management and proper
protection of the conservation easement and wanted to be
incorporated into the easement to make sure there are no
alterations ofthe intent of preservation and to be involved with the
different types of management techniques for the tortoise. The
motion passed included approval of Sabal Bay with staff
stipulations, to include the Conservancy of Southwest Florida into
the management and conservation easement, and to require the
tortoise relocation study as discussed during the meeting. Some of
the stipulations did not make it into the final version that went
before the Board of County Commissioners.
Mr. Dolan noted that WCI would be glad to work with the local college
students to include them in on the relocation of gopher tortoises on the site
pursuant to the permit from the Fish and Game Commission. He has
already spoken with a Doctor at FGCU about grad students.
Mr. Hughes expressed that time should be taken in order to make motions
clear and concise.
Susan Mason continued with the update:
. Petition Bristol Pines went before the Board of County
Commissioners and was approved with stipulations with a 4 to 1
vote.
Mr. Chrzanowski gave an update on the Marisol Project, noting that the
Core of Engineers has not issued permits as of yet.
On an excavation permit an applicant can not move forward until attaining
all Federal and State approvals as noted by Mr. Griffin.
The Marisol PUD does have an expiration date, therefore if the project
does not commence after a given time after approval it will expire.
Ifthere are any changes to the Marisol Project Mr. Hughes suggested that
the Environmental Advisory Committee has the right to review.
Mr. Sorell had tried to get information from the Game and Fish
Commission on the success of the gopher tortoise relocation. Even under
the Freedom of Information Act and a registered letter he was not able to
obtain the information.
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Mr. Penniman moved that the Collier County Environmental
Advisory Committee staff form a letter officially requesting
information on gopher tortoise relocation studies to be received within
a reasonable period of time. Second by Mr. Sorrell.
The letter will be sent to the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation
Commission in Tallahassee.
Motion carries unanimously 7-0.
Susan Mason continued with the update:
. The January 4th Environmental Advisory Committee meeting that
will include the Growth Management Plan Amendment can be an
extended meeting in order to cover necessary items.
Bill Lorenz noted that the Growth Management Plan Amendment
Subcommittee will be meeting after the current meeting. A Planning
Commission meeting should be occurring in February so all of the
amendments should be finalized prior. He suggested having an extended
meeting on January 4th, with the contingency plan of having available
another meeting time if all items are not covered. Ms. Mason will reserve
January 1th at 9: AM-12: PM in contingency.
Mr. Hughes invited the public with new ideas pertinent to environmental
Issues.
VIII. New Business
A. Outstanding Advisory Council Member Nominations
None
IX. Subcommittee Reports
Covered under "VII. Old Business, A. Update members on projects"
X. Council Member Comments
Open discussion ensued covering the following issues:
· Impervious areas and hydrology need to be looked into as a long term
Issue.
· Impervious areas can be made into pervious or partially pervious.
· A subcommittee addressing impervious areas and hydrology issues was
suggested.
· Examining this issue for the County as a whole was suggested.
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· There are no specifications in the LDC for impervious areas.
· There is no current process for single families to come in for a water
management permit.
· Guidelines for impervious areas need to be provided.
XI. Public Comments
Brad Cornell, Collier County Audubon Society the County is looking into
listed species as a whole for the County. He recommended considering the
Conservation Coastal Management Element goal 2 objective 2.1 on water shed
management planning, along with being proactive instead of reactive.
Ms. Mason just received notice that the Marisol project permits were denied by
the Core of Engineers. Mr. Lorenz added that the Core denied the permit due to
the determination that it did not comply with the Clean Water Act section 404 B 1
guidelines.
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by order of the Chair at 10:47 AM.
COLLIER COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL
ADVISORY COUNCIL
Chairman William Hughes
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