EAC Minutes 10/05/2005 R
October 5, 2005
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER
COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
Naples, Florida, October 5,2005
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Environmental Advisory Council in
and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this
date at 9:00 AM in REGULAR SESSION in Building "F" of the
Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following members
present:
CHAIRMAN:
William Hughes
Terrence S. Dolan
Lee Horn
Judith Hushon
Irv Kraut
Erica Lynne
Nick Penniman
Michael V. Sorrell
ALSO PRESENT: Susan Mason, Senior Environmental Specialist
Steven Griffin, Assistant County Attorney
Stan Chrzanowski, Planning Review
Marjorie Student-Stirling, Assistant County Attorney
Barbara Burgeson, Sr. Environmental Specialist
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ENVIRONMENTAL ADVISORY COUNCIL
AGENDA
October 5, 2005
9:00 A.M.
Commission Boardroom
W. Harmon Turner Building (Building "F") - Third Floor
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Approval of Agenda
IV. Approval of September 7,2005 Meeting minutes
V. land Use Petitions
A. Conditional Use No. CU-2003-AR-4647 - Continued from September 7 Meeting
"Jan's Tram's CU"
Sections 23, 24, 25, Township 52, Range 29 East
B. Site Development Plan No. SDP-2003-AR-4620
"41 T Corporation Industrial Facility"
Section 10, Township 48 South, Range 25 East
C. Planned Unit Development Rezone No. PUDZ-A-2005-AR-7422
"Wolf Creek PUD"
Section 34, Township 48 South, Range 26 East
D. Planned Unit Development No. PUDZ-A-2004-AR-6126
"Sabal Bay PUD"
Sections 23, 24, 25, 26 & 36, Township 50 South, Range 25 East
Section 19, Township 50 South, Range 26 East
VI. Old Business
A. Update members on projects
VII. New Business
A. Outstanding Advisory Council Member Nominations
B. Environmental Advisory Council Absences
C. Chairperson and Vice-Chairperson election
D. Potential changes to the GMP and lDC and requst from staff to activiate the
GMP Subcomittee to review changes.
E. Member resignation
VIII. Council Member Comments
IX. Public Comments
X. Adjournment
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or if you have a conflict and will abstain from votina on a petition (403-2424~.
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the proceedings pertaining thereto; and therefore may need to ensure that a verbatim record of
proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal
is to be based.
October 5,2005
I. Meeting was called to order at 9:11 AM.
II. Roll Call
Roll call was taken. A quorum was established.
III. Approval of Agenda
Item "V., 8." has been continued by applicant request.
Dr. Hushon moved to approve the agenda. Second by Mr. Dolan. Carried
unanimously 8-0.
IV. Approval of September 7, 2005 Meeting minutes
Dr. Lynne felt that page six under "Jan's Trams" where it read "Dr. Lynne does
not feel that education will playa part in this project due to the lack of knowledge
for what is on the site" was an inaccurate account of what had been expressed.
Her meaning was that there wasn't any evidence of an educational plan presented.
She noted the misspelling of "by" on page five under Land Use Petitions. Dr.
Lynne also felt that the reason for approval of the motion under "VI., A" was the
land being disturbed, in an urban area, and the use of Smart Growth Principles
brought environmental benefits.
Mr. Hushon moved to approve the September 7, 2005 minutes with changes.
Second by Mr. Kraut. Carried unanimously 8-0.
V. Land Use Petitions
A. Conditional Use No. CU 2003-AR-467 - Continued from September 7
Meeting
"Jan's Tram's CU"
Sections 23, 24, 25, Township 52, Range 29 East
- Disclosures - Dr. Lynne and Mr. Sorrell visited the site.
- All those testifying were sworn in by Mr. Griffin.
Donald Murray, Project Planner for Coastal Engineering Consultants
Inc. introduced presenters. A video of the site was made available. He
reviewed the project giving a demonstration of the project on maps.
Amanda Koonjebeharry, Resident Botanist, a botanical survey was
perfonned 25 feet off of the logging road. No plants were found on the
shell filled road. The canals were also surveyed with a finding of exotics
(species list given). Relocation of native plants is possible when exotic
removal takes places due to the path of boats.
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Steven Griffin noted the pennanent conservation issue not having been
worked out. A pennanent conservation easement needs to be set aside for
this type of pennit. "Pennanent" was not defined in the code, therefore it
would revert back to the ordinary meaning; the dictionary defines
"pennanent" as - no reverting back, perpetual.
Marjorie Student-Stirling added that under the Growth Management
Law development orders can not be granted unless they are consistent
with the Compo Plan which is a matter of State Statute.
Ray Bass, Attorney representing Jan's Trams is willing to grant a
pennanent conservation easement for the duration of the lease. A fonnal
presentation of legal rights and theories has not been made to Mr. Weigel.
It is ultimately the County Commissioners call.
There is no distinction between ownership and lease as noted by Steven
Griffin. A further review is possible.
Dr. Lynne mentioned the site as a particularly nice area for an
environmental tram ride. The pontoon boat ride would require vegetation
trimming. She recommends approval with the stipulations of no
improvements to the road, no cutting of the oaks and hardwood hammock,
and relocation of listed species within the canal.
Panther impact evaluation will occur at the time of dock pennitting.
Dr. Lynne moved to approve Conditional Use No. CU 2003-AR-467-
Continued from September 7 Meeting, "Jan's Tram's CU", Sections
23, 24, 25, Township 52, Range 29 East, with the conditions that there
are no improvements made to the road bed, no cutting of oaks in the
hardwood hammock, and listed species that need to be moved to make
the canal navigable be relocated. Dr. Lynne then agreed to amend the
motion including other comments to require an educational program
as part of the trip, licensed mangrove pruning, and weekly vehicle oil
inspection with records. Second by Dr. Hushon.
Mr. Sorrell commented on the transfer station being filled with exotics.
Motion carries 8-0.
B. Site Development Plan No. SDP-2003-AR-4620
"41 T Corporation Industrial Facility"
Section 10, Township 48 South, Range 25 East
Continued.
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C. Planned Unit Development Rezone No. PUDZ-A-2005-AR-7422
"Wolf Creek PUD"
Section 34, Township 48 South, Range 26 East
- All those testifying were sworn in by Mr. Griffin.
- Disclosures - None
Richard D. Yovanovich, Goodlette, Coleman & Johnson, P.A.
Attorneys at Law introduced himself and other presenters.
Jeremy Sterk, Hoover Planning & Development mentioned the original
Wolf Creed PUD being approved in 2003, the issue before the Committee
is an amendment. The amendment is to add approximately 30 acres.
There are just over 11 acres of wet lands. Portions already have pennits.
He reviewed the individual parcels. The wet lands have been made the
highest priority, with approved district pennits. Connection between
wetlands of approximately 77 feet across is proposed. This would also
allow the possibility for wildlife crossing between preserves. At the point
where the road separates the preserves it will be gated, so the traffic will
be at a stop.
Mr. Y ovanovich mentioned that standards are being met for the Land
Development Code. The connection between wetlands will give wildlife a
potential corridor. Under the Comprehensive Plan the selection criteria
are being met; the first being an upland buffer, which is being met; the
second is listed plant and animal species habitat, there are none; the third
is zyric scrub, there are none; the fourth being dune and strand hardwood
hammocks, which there are none; the fifth and sixth are dry prairie pine
flat woods and other upland habitats which are being addressed. County
Staff has asked for a letter from State and Federal agencies that will not
respond.
Mr. Hughes suggested adoption of code to submit to the board as issues
come up.
Norman J. Trebilcock, A.I.C.P., P.E., Q. Grady Minor & Associates,
P.A., demonstrated hydrologic drainage (maps shown) and addressed the
25 years stonn preparedness.
Mr. Yovanovich reviewed staff recommendation of denial under the
Comprehensive Plan. The first reason being the need to have a final
jurisdiction wetland detennination from the Core and Water Management
District before a recommendation can be made as to the appropriateness of
the preserves; sighting policy 6.2.6. Mr. Y ovanovich does not believe this
to be a correct interpretation. Policy 6.2.1. which is under the same
objective requires the requested pennits at the time ofpennitting, not
zoning. Policy 6.2.4. ties back to use of wet lands as preserve area if
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consistent with a pennit. It does not read for a wetland detennination at
the time of zoning. The second reason for denial goes under the priority
of the preserves and the corridor. Policy 6.1.1. sets the priorities. If
stipulations are necessary then it is proposed to have the PUD Master Plan
approval with two conditions:
Wetland areas identified pursuant to the Southwest Florida Water
Management District Pennit.
The corridor must be identified in the fox squire Management Plan.
Summer Rocke, Environmental Services noted:
· Preserve selection is based on, first: areas known to be utilized by
listed species or that service corridors, second: onsite wetlands,
third: wetland habitat.
· Technical assistance has not been received as requested.
· Score needs to be .7 or greater.
· The northern preserve area is not a wetland.
· EIS requires the jurisdictional line.
· Scores are needed to detennine if the wetland fulfills criteria as
seen in the GMP.
· Staff can not detennine wetland lines.
Barbara Burgeson, Environmental Services noted:
· Priority ranking requires the first area identified for preservation be
ones known to be utilized by listed species or will function as
wildlife corridors.
· Two squirrel nests (gray or fox was not known) were identified.
They are not in the specified preserve areas.
· The potential fox squirrel sitting is just north to the designated
corridor area.
· The second propriety is for high quality wetlands.
· It is preferred to have separated larger areas, than two preserve
areas identified by a corridor that does not meat priorities.
· The only way a Collier County wetland can be defined is to have it
identified by South Florida.
Mr. Sterk mentioned that repeated requests have been made to Southwest
Florida Water Management District for the J.D. Due to a lack of staffing
they will not do it until a pennit is sent.
Ms. Mason noted that the preserves are not truly connected due to the
road.
Dr. Lynne moved to deny based on the fact that there isn't sufficient
information to make the best determination of where the preserves
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should be and preservation of listed species on site. Second by Mr.
Penniman. Motion carries 5-3 with Mr. Kraut, Mr. Hughes and Mr.
Dolan opposed.
Ms. Burgeson pointed out that they can apply for an application for
review in order to get a jurisdictional detennination. It is also possible for
a discussion during the interagency meeting. Discussion on the potential
for Collier County to have a contract employee with South Florida.
It was suggested for the presenters to come back to the Committee with
more infonnation.
Recessed at 10:47 AM, reconvening at 10:59 AM.
D. Planned Unit Development No. PUDZ-A-2004-AR-6126
"Sabal Bay PUD"
Sections 23, 24, 25, 26 & 36, Township 50 South, Range 25 East
Section 19, Township 50 South, Range 26 East
- Disclosures - Mr. Dolan sustained due to a voting conflict.
- All those testifying were sworn in by Mr. Griffin.
Mr. Dolan left the meeting at 11 :00 AM.
Bob Mulhere gave a presentation including the following points:
· Introduced presenters.
· The area of discussion is 2,416 acres located south of Thomason
Drive.
· Demonstration oflands for project (map reference).
· Commitments from the DRI have been or will be met.
· The D.R.I. will be abandoned, and rezoned to P.U.D.
· Original DRI allowed for 4,000 dwelling units; 1,999 are being
requested.
· Original DRI allowed for a combination of commercial, office and
retail up to 796,500 square feet; 2,000 square feet of retail and
60,000 square feet of office are being requested.
· A portion of the project has already been developed.
· Original DRI allowed for 600 wet 200 dry slips; no marina is being
requested.
· 45 golf holes were pennitted; 18 holes are requested.
· 600 hotel rooms were pennitted; a maximum of 250 hotel rooms
are requested.
· All of requested numbers are maximums.
· Staff is recommending approval.
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Mr. Passarella, Passarella & Assoc., gave a presentation including the
following points:
· Demonstration on maps.
· Addressed vegetation with reference to overhead.
· Wetland jurisdictional detennination has been conducted.
· Canal construction and hwy 41 has altered historic drainage which
has altered wetlands.
· Demonstration of impacts.
· Addressed listed species surveys and results.
· Three bald eagles nest, nest histories, and construction proximity
addressed.
· Demonstration of exotic coverage (map reference).
· Demonstration of plan map.
· Preservation of majority of gopher tortoise nesting sites with a
maximum of 5 tortoises per acre.
· Gopher tortoise nests off preserve will be relocated.
· Vegetation preservation requirement for the project is 25%; actual
preservation is 225%.
Edward R. Griffith, WCI Communities, Inc. gave a presentation
including the following points:
· Two archeological sites of significance were identified, they are
within preservation areas.
· Notification is required if anything of significance is discovered
during construction.
The State does not allow unauthorized visitation of the historical site.
Dr. Lynne suggested funding a graduate student gopher tortoise study.
Tom Logan introduced himself. Discussed paper published on bald
eagles that concluded that where guidelines were applied bald eagles
continued to be productive. Another study analyzed rural and urban nest
sites with the conclusion that where the nest persisted and the food source
was adequate, young were successfully raised.
Dr. Lynne would like to see literature not from a government agency.
Emilio J. Robau, P.E., RW A Consulting gave a presentation including
the following points:
. Addressed water management and water flow.
. Lely Canal reconstruction is in the public's interest, gives better
reliability on drainage, and has environmental benefits.
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· Water quality treatment was addressed as a paramount issue.
· 50% more water quality than required is planned.
· Pesticide proximity to water bodies addressed.
Developmental practices have changed. Nutrient management and pest
management are integrated into golf course management; along with no
spray zones. There is a training process of residents so that the
management process can be carried through.
Dr. Hushon requested a copy of chemical analysis.
Green building will be part of the community.
Mr. Kraut left the meeting at 12:28 PM.
Questions were addressed.
Public Speakers-
Nicole Ryan, Conservancy of Southwest Florida expressed concerns
with water quality due to high quality wetlands and uplands, along with
the proper protection of the preserves. There is a draft for potential new
law. The Conservancy of Southwest Florida has been assisting with the
draft. They would like to make sure the conservation easement is in
perpetuity. The applicant has agreed to incorporate the Conservancy into
the easement.
E. Dr. Hushon moved to accept Planned Unit Development No. PUDZ-A-
2004-AR-6126, "Sabal Bay PUD", Sections 23, 24, 25, 26 & 36,
Township 50 South, Range 25 East, Section 19, Township 50 South,
Range 26 East with staff recommendations, along with a tortoise
relocation success study. Second by Mr. Penniman. Carried
unanimously 6-0.
Recessed at 12:35 PM, reconvening at 12:50 PM.
Mr. Dolan rejoined the meeting as 12:50 PM.
Chairman Hughes resolved to move items of discussions considering timing.
VI. New Business
A. Potential changes to the GMP and LDC and request from staff to
activated the GMP Subcommittee to review changes.
Bill Lorenz, Environmental Services Director gave a Power Point
Presentation (see attachment) including the following points:
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. Review of time line for Future Activities, Proposed Changes,
Stonnwater in Preserves, No Adverse Impact, Off-Site Retention
Alternatives, Criteria for Allowing Off-Site Alternatives, Size
Threshold, Off-Site Alternative, Re-creation Criteria, Conservation
Easements, EIS Requirements, and GMP Subcommittee and Staff
Recommendation.
. Recommendation was made to re-initiate the Growth Management
Plan Subcommittee.
Dr. Hushon, Mr. Sorrell, and Mr. Penniman volunteered for the GMP
Subcommittee.
B. Chairperson and Vice-Chairperson Absences
Mr. Penniman moved for Mr. Hughes to continue as Chairperson.
Second by Mr. Sorrell. Carried unanimously 7-0.
Mr. Hughes moved for Dr. Lynne to act as Vice-Chairperson. Second
by Mr. Penniman. Carried unanimously 7-0.
C. Outstanding Advisory Committee Member Nominations
None
D. Environmental Advisory Council Absences
A Committee member can not miss more than a half of the meetings
within a fiscal year, or three consecutive meetings, excused or otherwise.
Ms. Burgeson would like Committee members to identify any meetings
that they may not be able to attend.
E. Member Resignation
Mr. Humiston has resigned. Mr. Hughes related the Mr. Humiston was
significant in his expertise he will be greatly missed
VII. Old Business
A. Update members on projects
Not addressed.
VIII. Council Member Comments
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Mr. Sorrel distributed infonnation on Lake Trafford dredge material analysis. It
brings up concerns about dust born contaminants. Dr. Hushon does not feel the
arsenic level is high enough for concern.
Environmental Services Department will provide more infonnation after review.
IX. Public Comments
Bob Krasowski mentioned that the public does watch the Environmental
Advisory Council on television. He would like to give a presentation representing
Zero Waste Collier County.
Mr. Hughes would like to have another meeting pertinent to building techniques.
Nicole Ryan, Conservancy of Southwest Florida the Conservancy would like to
participate in the GMP Sub-committee. When items one and three from Mr.
Lorenz presentation are looked into, examine criteria. There are concerns about
having all of the preserve in one area on the second item. Conservation
easements are very important documents under number four. EIS sometimes
captures things nothing else does.
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by order of the Chair at 1 :46 PM.
COLLIER COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL
ADVISORY COUNCIL
Chairman William Hughes
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