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CAC Minutes 08/08/2005 W September 8, 2005 TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION (FDEP) WORKSHOP Naples, Florida, September 8, 2005 LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Coastal Advisory Committee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00 a.m., in REGULAR SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following members present: CHAIRMAN: Ron Pennington John Arceri (Excused) Gerald Camiener Murray Hendel (Excused) Heidi Kulpa Ronald Minarcini (Excused) Tony Pires John Sorey, III Paul Sullivan ALSO PRESENT: Gary McAlpin - Coastal Projects Manager Gail Hambright - Administrative Assistant Robert Brantley, Coastal Engineering Administrator Lanie Edwards - Permit Processor for Southwest Florida Becky Roland - Beach Manager 1 September 8, 2005 I. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Ron Pennington at 9:00 a.m. II. Roll Call- A quorum was established with Mr. Minarcini, Mr. Arceri and Mr. Hendel being excused. III. Changes and Approval of Agenda - There were no changes to the agenda. No motion taken. IV. Introduction of Guests - Chairman Pennington introduced Robert Brantley, Coastal Engineering Administrator; Lanie Edwards - Permit Processor for Southwest Florida; Becky Roland - Beach Manager. V. Agenda/Times 1. 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. - Wiggins Pass Discussion Gary McAlpin - Wiggins Pass is not working for the County at this time and a solution is being sought. Problems include erosion, boater safety and the need to dredge the pass every other year. Ken Humiston - reviewed shoreline past and present. Discussed inlet management plan recommendation, costs of dredging over past years are constant, and potential cost savings. Erosion of Barefoot Beach was discussed. Causes of erosion were reviewed, deepening of cut adds to erosion. Inlet dynamics will improve. John Finley, Estuary Conservation Commission, gave presentation regarding erosion at Wiggins Pass. Heaviest erosion occurred in 2005. Erosion is causing serious safety risk to boaters. Coast Guard is impeded during rescue operations because water is too shallow. Public Speakers: David Roellig, Board, Estuary Conservation, expressed concern regarding the amount of material designated for Wiggins Pass, would like to see a study done of sand at Wiggins Pass. Suggested study should be done on impact to adjacent shores before permit is issued for dredging. Joe Moreland, President of Estuary Conservation Association and a boater. Suggested baseline study regarding dredging at Wiggins Pass. Boats are being damaged because of shoaling. ECA has dedicated a boat and hired a graduate student to study conditions at Wiggins Pass. Open Discussion: Points covered included using permanent structures to remedy problem. Permanent structures would add one more complicating feature. More information is needed as it is not known what the controlling influences are at Wiggins Pass Inlet. Florida statutes require that using permanent structures are last resort. Tools are available to determine problems, water 2 September 8, 2005 flows and changes. Numerical model of hydraulics of inlet would be helpful. A permanent solution is desirable but probably not possible. Dredging has not been very effective and causes adverse effects on the shoreline. The solution in 2006 probably will not be effective in 2009. Possibility of funding from the State was discussed since Collier County leases the park from the State. Would have to submit funding request, Wiggins Pass may not be eligible since it is not designated as critically eroded. Only boats with three-foot drafts should be using waterway. Unsure what compliance really is. Restricting use to boats with three-foot drafts was considered. Both Wiggins Pass and Gordons Pass are mouths of rivers, changes dynamics. Scoping process needs preliminary work by consultant with list of actions possible to use. Could provide potential impacts and benefits. A scoping meeting was recommended. BREAK - 10:00 a.m. RECONVENED - 10:10 a.m. 2. 10:10 a.m. - 11:00 a.m. - Clam Pass Discussion Gary McAlpin - Introduced Steve Keene, who will address monitoring information for the past five years and Ken Humiston, who will give overview of Clam Pass. Ken Humiston of Humiston & Moore, gave overview of Clam Pass, conditions pre-dredging, conditions after dredging. . 1999 comprehensive restoration plan was implemented Steve Keene, Coastal Engineering Management, stated monitoring program data was examined from beach point of view. Area most affected is 3,000 to 4,000 feet from inlet. Inlet impacts presentation covered the following points: · Changes since start of Inlet Management plan · Shoreline position vs. 1998 at C.P · Odd- Even Analysis CP (FY NR) · Profile R-41 north and adjacent to CP evolution 1997-2004 · Odd-Even Analysis CP (CY) · Graphic of Monitoring Program for Inlet · Theoretical Ebb Shoal Growth · Nourishment Volume · Alterations · Conclusions: Significant impact started with 1998 improvement Natural bypassing not yet kicked in. Mechanical bypass, 1998 not enough. Open Discussion: Points covered included no analysis has been done as to when bypass would kick in. Permitting was discussed. Concern for public beaches was 3 September 8, 2005 expressed. It is understood that ongoing maintenance will be necessary. Discussed whether erosion would continue after equilibrium is reached. Coastal processes are episodic and certain storm events will move material around ebb shoal. Concern is if ebb shoal is dug out, will it repeat. Change in management plan would require permit. Present permit is defined for outermost cut, if it desired to expand it would require permit, otherwise, not. Public Speakers: David Roellig, suggested examining nourishment to the park over the last ten years. Martha Dykman, resident, Clam Bay system, stated hotels are paying tourist tax and there is no beach. Damage has occurred to the surrounding environment because beach goers have no beach to use and have trampled surrounding vegetation. Dr. David Buser, suggested that data to be used for analysis should be provided by an unbiased group; engineering firm used now is paid by Pelican Bay. Suggested building a bridge across the system to create alternative site on the other side. Mac Hatcher, Collier County Environmental Services, spoke regarding actions that involve Clam Bay Estuary System, is deeded to County by ACE and limits dredging. Tidal connection to the Gulf needs to be maintained. 3. 11 :00 a.m. - Collier County Beach/Inlet Maintenance Ten Year Plan Mr. McAlphin - Gave presentation on TDC Category A Projections. Discussed projections for maintenance and costs for next ten years. Public Speaker - re Wiggins Pass Dick Lydon, spoke regarding Pelican Bay causing problem by building a culvert, believes what we do now may not be good for the future and believes a study should be done regarding Wiggins Pass. There being no further business for the good the County, the meeting adjourned by order of the Chair at 11 :25 a.m. COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE Ron Pennington, Chairman 4