PVAC Minutes 08/08/2005 R
August 8, 2005
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER
COUNTY PUBLIC VEHICLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, August 8, 2005
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Public Vehicle
Advisory Committee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted
business herein, met on this date at 9:30 AM in REGULAR SESSION at
the Collier County Community Development Services Building, Naples,
Florida, with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Allen Walburn
Randall Smith
Tony Marino
Russ Berghuis
Dale Schultheis
Richard Schmidt
(Alternate)
ALSO PRESENT: Janet Powers - CE Operations Manager
Jamie MacKenzie - CE Administrative Assistant
Tom Palmer - Assistant County Attorney
John Marsh - Code Enforcement Investigator
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AGENDA
COLLIER COUNTY PUBLIC VEHICLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
August 8th, 2005 9:30 AM
Collier Count
2800
Euildin
34104
Conference Room *609
ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE
PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAy NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBATIM
RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THAT TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE
UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.
PLEASE ENSURE ALL PAGERS AND CELL PHONES ARE OFF OR IN A QUIET POSITION.
I. Call Meeting to Order
Reqular Meeting:
II. Roll Call
III. Approval of Agenda
IV. Approval of Minutes: July 11, 2005
V. Notices-none
VI. New Business:
VII. Hearing
New Application: A-I Cadillac Cab
Aangel Airport Transportation LLC
VIII. Old Business:
a.) Ordinance revisions
IX. Complaint Report-Marsh
'd t' Of driver identification denial.
D' a.) Lucinda Nelson- reconSl era lon h
lscussion: f taxi service, but receiving Carter
b.) Customer complaint: request or
service.
X.
Announcements
Next Scheduled Meeting Date: August 1, 2005
XI.
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I. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Allen Walburn at 9:30 AM.
II. Roll Call was taken with quorum established. (2 new members were present &
introduced) This is Allen's last meeting with the new member attending the September
meeting. (Reg Buxton)
III. Approval of Agenda
Add Election of Officers under "New Business."
Dale Schultheis moved to approve the Agenda as amended. Second by
Randy Smith. Carried unanimously 5-0.
IV. Approval of Minutes: July 11, 2005
Page 3 - Mr. Schultheis stated he did not make the remark under Speakers
comments concerning using 30% of total square footage including glass for
sale of advertising. It will be stricken.
Page 4 - clarification of Motion: Committee approved 4" letters on the front
o f the van and 6" letters on the rear of the van.
Randy Smith moved to approve the Minutes of July 11, 2005 as amended. Second
by Russ Berghuis. Carried unanimously 5-0.
V. Notices - None
VI. New Business
New Application
A-I Cadillac Cab
Dale read part of the Ordinance that states unless someone is
providing taxi service, they cannot use "Cab" in the name of their
business. A-I is going to run airports.
After much discussion, Allen Walburn moved to deny A-I Cadillac Cab until he
complies with the Ordinance. Second by Dale Schultheis. Carried unanimously 5-0.
Aangel Airport Transportation LLC
Aangel is a new airport taxi service out of Fort Meyers. The insurance
was discussed along with the inspection and occupational license.
They cannot operate until all the items have been taken care of.
Russ Berghuis moved to approve the application pending the outcome of the Vehicle
Inspection, Certificate of Commercial Insurance and Vehicle Lease. Second by
Tony Marino. Carried 4-1. (Dale Schultheis voted "no")
Denied Application - reconsidered driver identification denial: Dale Schultheis stated
the PV AC may grant an exception to the permit to the applicant based on many factors.
This can be seen on page 3. The Committee did not have a chance to discuss it at the last
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meeting, and Dale mentioned in the future the Committee has the right to make
exceptions under certain circumstances.
Allen read that part of the Ordinance into the record of all the particular circumstances
that apply and stated everyone should be familiar with the Ordinance.
Tom Palmer - Assistant County Attorney stated the applicant was informed by staff
after the meeting that she could appeal to the Board and get an exception if she so
wished.
**The Committee members expressed their opinion and dissatisfaction of receiving their
Agendas by email. It was cumbersome for them to print over 100 pages.
Allen Walburn moved staff deliver or mail a hard copy of their Agenda packets to
each Board member prior to their meetings. Second by Russ Berghuis. Carried
unanimously 5-0.
It was not mandatory but appreciated.
VII. Hearing - None
VIII. Old Business:
a) Ordinance revisions
SPEAKERS
Fizz Papps - felt the Committee was making the Ordinance changes more complicated
rather than simple as now written, He had an issue with the lettering on the glass and on
the side of the vans. Doesn't leave any creativity in the new Ordinance. It is more
restrictive. Stated they should be able to do what they want with the 30% and not be so
restrictive.
Tom Palmer mentioned Michelle Arnold didn't want letters or logo on the glass as it is a
safety issue.
A lengthy discussion continued.
Kellv Farrell- stated there was no need to restrict how high or low to place the letters.
Tom LUf!rin - asked why it is an issue or regulated?
Janet Powers responded it is to prevent a billboard effect, an ambiance issue.
Discussion followed on it being a safety issue etc.
The Public Hearing portion of the meeting was closed and Allen asked for comments by
the Committee members,
Dale Schultheis agreed with Mr. Lugrin. Should be on a case to case basis. Can't make
it suitable for everyone. He favored 30% including the windows.
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Randy Smith discussed the windows. He has no problem with it himself but agreed with
the recommendations by Michelle Arnold. Staff needs to be considered.
Tony Marino - no objection with the 30%. He is against covering the windows totally.
Russ Berghuis - go back to the 30% of sides including windows. (Front and rear the
same)
John Marsh mentioned ifit is excluded, someone will put it on.
Discussion followed.
Allen Walburn - suggested staying with the 30% painted surface, but 30% can be
incorporated in the side glasses but not the driver or passenger side windows.
Russ Berghuis moved to contain 30% of the total side of the vehicle including
windows. Second by Tony Marino. Carried 4-1. (Randy Smith voted "no")
Allen Walburn moved to amend the Ordinance as discussed and authorize staff
move it forward to the BCC for approval. Second by Russ Berghuis. Carried 4-1.
(Randy Smith voting "no")
IX. Complaint Report - John Marsh
Report was distributed and attached. There were a total of 24 cases open and
closed.
Discussion: a) Lucinda Nelson - reconsideration of driver identification denial.
(Discussed earlier in the meeting)
b) Customer complaint: request for taxi service, but receiving
Charter service.
John Gavin stated his concern of Checker Cab running their sedans
as cabs. This is a non-stop issue. It was decided a passenger needs
to file a complaint.
Dale read parts of the Ordinance impacting Taxi businesses.
X. Announcements:
Election of Officers:
Allen Walburn nominated Tony Marino as Chairman. Dale nominated Russ Berghuis
for Chairman, Being no other nominations from the floor, nominations for Chairman
were closed. Tony received 3 votes, Russ 2 votes.
Tony Marino is Chairman.
Dale nominated Russ Berghuis for Vice Chairman. Being no other nominations from the
floor, nominations for Vice Chairman was closed with Russ Berghuis as Vice Chairman.
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XI. Next Scheduled Meeting Date: September 12, 2005
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by order of the Chair at 10:38 AM.
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COLLIER COUNTY PUBLIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Chairman Allen Walburn
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