BCC Minutes 06/08/2005 W (Legislative Session)
June 8,2005
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
COLLIER COUNTY SOUTHWEST DELEGATION/BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS POST LEGISLATIVE SESSION
WORKSHOP
Board Meeting Room, 3rd Floor, Administration Building
3301 Tamiami Trail East, Naples, FL 34112
Three o'clock, Wednesday, June 8, 2005
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County
Commissioners and Collier County Southwest Delegation in and for the
County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at
3:00 p.m. in WORKSHOP SESSION in the Board Meeting Room, third
floor, Administration Building, of the Government Complex, 3301 East
Tamiami Trail, Naples, Florida with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN:
Commissioner Fred Coyle
Commissioner Donna Fiala
Commissioner Jim Coletta
Commissioner Frank Halas
Commissioner Tom Henning
ALSO PRESENT:
Sen. Burt Saunders
Rep. J. Dudley Goodlette
Rep. Mike Davis
Jim Mudd, County Manager
Leo Ochs, Deputy County Manager
Joseph Schmitt, Adm., CDES
Don Scott, Transportation/Planning
Stan Litsinger, AICP, Comprehensive Planning Director
Roy Anderson, PUED Director
Amy Patterson, Impact Fee Manager
John Norman, Assistant to Rep. David Rivera
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Southwest Delegation/Board 0' County
Commissioners
Post 2005 Legislative Session Workshop
Wednesday, June 8, 2005
3 - 4:30 p.m.
!YJenda
I. 2005 Legislative Session Wrapup - Legislators
· Sen. Burt Saunders
· Rep. J. Dudley Goodlette
II. Growth Management Legislation
· How Legislation Affects Collier County - County Staff
· Impact Fee Review Task Force
· Issues to be Addressed in 2006 Legislative Session -
Rep. Mike Davis
III. Lobbyists - Federal and State - Jim Mudd, County
Manager
IV. Board of County Commissioners/Legislators
Communications - Jim Mudd, County Manager
V. Questions and Answers
June 8, 2005
The Board of County Commissioners Workshop was called to order
by Chainnan Fred Coyle on Wednesday, June 8, 2005 at 3:00 p.m. The Pledge of
Allegiance was recited.
I. 2005 Legislative Wrap-up-Legislators
Jim Mudd, County Manager, introduced the participating legislators.
· Sen. Burt Saunders
· Rep. J. Dudley Goodlette
· Rep. Mike Davis
· Bret Bacot
· Cari L. Roth
Sen. Saunders: Stated that the 2005 Legislative Session was a very good session. Many
major policy issues were addressed. Growth management is a work in progress and will
require additional action. There is a major problem in Florida with the Constitution and
the ease with which it is amended. There are initiatives that will appear on the ballot
requiring a 60% plus one vote to amend the Constitution. There is a Constitutional
amendment dealing with the budgeting of funds. Medicaid expenses will be reduced and
the Medicaid program will be better managed. The leadership of the House and the
Senate work very closely together for the benefit of the State of Florida. Southwest
Florida has an excellent delegation representing them in the Legislature.
Rep. Goodlette: Stated that there is a good working relationship between the Legislature
and Southwest Florida. The State of Florida has a $64.7 million dollar budget; $1.5
million is allocated to growth management. A little more than 40% of Florida's budget
is general revenue; 59% of budget is allocated to state and federal trust funds; 35% of
budget is spent on health and human services; 32% is spent on education; 18% is spent on
transportation and economic development; 7% is spent on justice system; 3% on general
government. Expressway Authority Bill is currently being considered by Governor Bush.
Economy of Florida is good. Over $1 billion dollars has been set aside in a rainy day
fund. Intangible tax has been reduced by one-half. Sales tax holiday is good for the
economy of the State of Florida.
Rep. Davis: Stated that he is currently awaiting Governor Bush's decision on signing
Bill 360. Would like to memorialize a pre-legislative session workshop meeting annually
to outline what is important. Regional effort is successful and appreciated.
II. Growth Management Legislation
Jim Mudd, County Manager: Stated that Growth Management Legislation was
done in one bill. In 2004 impact fees drawn from capital programs, transportation
and schools total little over $100 million dollars, ad valorem contribution to growth
capital was a little over $115 million dollars so impact fees were paying a little less
than half in 2004. In 2005, impact fees are paying $70 million dollars and the
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County and School District is paying around $125 million dollars. 2004 spike was
due to 50% from transportation impact fees. Impact fees are important funding for
future growth.
How Le2islation Affects Collier County
Stan Litsinger, AICP, Comprehensive Planning Director: Discussed growth
management legislation stating that it was the first significant growth management
legislation in 20 years. Growth management legislation is complex, subtle and in
some areas vague. In next session, key will be how much adjustment and
clarification is possible relative to the policy statements made in this legislation.
Commented on unified delegation standing together for Collier County. Response to
legislation is not due for Collier County until 2006 and should be measured.
Legislation does not provide a totally positive tool regarding concurrency.
Recommendations will be made on the ordinances that will be required in order to
implement legislation and potential changes to existing ordinances relative to
concurrency. There will be impact fee consequences associated with legislation.
State has provided some funding which may be continuing. Discussed concerns
regarding the high level of oversight provided by the Department of Community
Affairs. There are increased reporting requirements. There is are-emphasized
approach to regional issues with possible reconstitution of the regional planning
councils. Water resources-water supply provision is important process. Collier
County should have representation on critical committees.
Impact Fee Review Task Force
Amy Patterson, Impact Fee Manager: Stated that Collier County currently has
$18.8 million dollars in developer contribution agreements. Proportionate fair share
mitigation as it relates to impact fees equals less money. New legislation will create
a significant impact related to our impact fees. As of the effective date of this new
bill, all of Collier County's developer contribution agreements need to be carefully
examined.
Don Scott, Transportation: Stated regarding the transportation concurrency
system, when you can assume an improvement is in place for capacity for a
developer to go forward, the Bill talks about three years, Collier County is at two
years; Collier County may have to change it. Regarding proportionate share
mitigation, based on proportionate share, it could be half as much money versus what
was collected in impact fees. Concurrency system has been very successful in so far
as getting donations above and beyond the impact fees. If we have to give impact
fee credits for those donations, that is going to affect the program. Pay and go is
confusing: Can a developer pay a percentage of an improvement even though it is not
100% and go forward even if it is not in the five-year work program, is it something
we are going to have to add in the new six-year program.
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Roy Anderson, Public Utilities: Questioned whether grant money would go to
water suppliers or to CERP, Comprehensive Everglades Restoration Project. Will
grant administration be in place at the district level to properly administer these
funds. Regional Planning is actively addressed in the legislation. Opportunity is
provided for us to propose County projects in the lower West Coast Water Supply
Plan. Regional Planning will now control County Comprehensive Planning. Growth
management and impact fees, a water supply availability detennination will be
required at the time of building pennit issuance. Comprehensive Plan must be
updated within 18 months of completion of the regional plan which will have to
identify future water supply sources. Collier County will have to prove it has
revenue resources to provide for future project needs. Participation in Impact Fee
Task Force may lead to more control over impact fee administration by State.
Capital improvement requirements need to be established well in advance of building
pennit issuance. Total Maximum Daily Loads Program, there will be $50 million
dollars allocated to the districts to develop basin area plans. Will grants
administration be in place to administer those funds by July 2005. Surface Water
Restoration Program, will money go to Collier County or to this district.
Jim Mudd: Expressed concern that there is water available to feed the water plants
and whether water pennits are being used appropriately. If plan dictates water
availability then pennits need to be automatic.
Commissioner Coyle: Important potential effect of water provisions, is that it
forces Collier County to investigate alternative sources of water and could cause the
transfer of the cost growth to the taxpayers.
Rep. Goodlette: Stated that proportionate fair share has no application to water as
this Bill was passed. Concerns expressed will be investigated.
Commissioner Coyle: Stated that impact fees are based on historic costs.
Rep. Goodlette: As part of the legislation, Impact Fee Task Force will review those
issues and a report is due back to the President of the Senate and the Speaker of the
House by the Impact Fee Task Force by February of next year.
Commissioner Coyle: Expressed concern regarding concurrency timelines.
Exceptions to concurrency rules must be written into concurrency management
system.
Rep. Goodlette: That is existing law.
Commissioner Coyle: Expressed concern about deminimus impacts referenced in
Bill, particularly in the Estates, 110% issue. Will deminimus impact be limited by
110% in aggregate. We need to clarify the bill, need tougher, tighter window for
concurrency.
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Sen. Saunders: All counties must be considered in legislation. Asked why Collier
County had to settle for a two-year window.
Commissioner Henning: Secretary of DCA infonned him that there was not
enough money to do a one-year concurrency. Current funding will not clear up
backlog. Collier County needs more tools to deal with infrastructure and assistance
with growth management.
Ms. Roth: Stated that Collier County can do the same things it could before the Bill
as after the Bill. There is nothing different about concurrency in this Bill.
Rep. Goodlette: The Bill is not intended to tie the hands of local government.
Commissioner Coyle: There are circumstances where there are exemptions from
the concurrency standards and clarifying language is needed.
Rep. Goodlette: There is no change in current law.
Commissioner Coyle: Stated his concern is that there are problems the Senate Bill
did not solve and have perpetuated.
Rep. Goodlette: Stated this is why we need this kind of conversation.
Commissioner Coyle: Would like acknowledgement this problem will be solved.
Sen. Saunders: This provision states that exemption from concurrency may be
granted.
Commissioner Coyle: Pointed out that provision says "shall" not "may".
Ms. Roth: Authorization to grant transportation concurrency exemption areas is still
the local government's. There is no requirement in this law or existing law that
requires transportation currency exemption.
Commissioner Coyle: Pointed out there are inconsistencies that must be resolved
which is a serious issue. Needs to be clearer.
Rep. Goodlette: There is no change in the law due to the passage of Bill 360.
Commissioner Coyle: Stated change is needed. Local government needs more
flexibility with respect to how it handles urban infill and redevelopment.
Commissioner Henning: Stated that urban infill at higher density is sometimes
encouraged. Collier County is more responsive to desires of citizens regarding urban
infill density than many other counties. Stated flexibility is necessary.
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Stan Litsinger: Legal and professional staff is detennining if flexibility that
remains is available to community to make its own choices, particularly if Collier
County wished to take a more stringent path than the State statute provides with
regards to concurrency.
Commissioner Coyle: Stated that Collier County needs to be able to manage its
own growth and expressed concern that there is not enough flexibility.
Rep. Davis: Announced that Governor Bushjust signed Bill 360.
Sen. Saunders: Stated Collier County has flexibility, can designate level of service
on its roadways. Moratorium can be used to fix infrastructure within a reasonable
amount of time.
Commissioner Coyle: Stated that using moratorium would require shifting cost to
taxpayers. Real time concurrency keeps taxes from being raised.
Commissioner Henning: Pointed out that Collier County has the option of applying
a stricter approach to concurrency than the State requires, but not less strict.
Commissioner Coyle: Provisions in legislation are vague. Bill should be clarified.
Rep. Davis: Clarification in the legislation should be a priority. We are strong
proponents of home rule.
Rep. Goodlette: Stated there are many good elements in the Growth Management
Plan.
Sen. Saunders: Suggested that the Board of County Commissioners make a list of
ambiguities so that clarification can be worked on.
Commissioner Henning: Stated that cleanup is necessary. There will be changes to
impact fees and how counties will do business. Counties need to be able to get their
message to legislators.
Rep. Davis: Stated that there are three committees that are called for in the Bill and
Collier County should have people representing it on these committees.
Commissioner Henning: Stated that legislation tends to change at the last minute,
asked how to deal with that reality.
Rep. Davis: Suggested that Collier County should hire a consultant to represent
Collier County in Tallahassee as issues change rapidly.
Jim Mudd: Stated there is $200,000 allocated for federal and state lobbyist.
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Commissioner Halas: Stated that help from the State would be desirable to increase
the load carrying capacity of Delnor Wiggins State Park. Asked whether the State is
going to advance funding on study of State Road 29, 82.
Rep. Davis: Responded that it is being worked on and looks good, will keep Collier
County apprised.
Commissioner Halas: Questioned whether there was any funding set aside for
improving Immokolee Airport.
Rep. Davis: Stated he is working with Economic Development Council to
accomplish infrastructure improvements at the Immokolee Airport.
Commissioner Halas: Stated that improvements at Immokolee Airport will help to
bring new jobs into the Immokolee area.
Commissioner Fiala: Expressed concern about ten lanes of traffic turning into four
lanes of traffic between Golden Gate Parkway and Davis Boulevard.
Rep. Davis: Stated that issue is being addressed.
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by the order of the chair at 4:45 p.m.
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