CAC Minutes 05/12/2005 R
May 12, 2005
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER
COUNTY COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, May 12,2005
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Coastal
Advisory Committee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted
business herein, met on this date at 1 :00 PM in REGULAR SESSION in
Building "F of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the
following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Ron Pennington
John Arceri
Gerald Camiener
Murray Hendel
Heidi Kulpa
Tony Pires
James Snediker (Excused)
John Sorey III
Paul Sullivan
ALSO PRESENT: Gary McAlpin, Coastal Projects Mgr.
Maria Bernal, Tourist Tax Coordinator
Dr. Mike Bauer, City of Naples
Maura Krause, Environmental Services
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MEETING AGENDA & NOTICE
COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE (CAC)
THURSDAY, MAY 12, 2005 -1:00 P.M.
W. HARMON TURNER BUILDING (Administrative Building F; 3rd Floor) Collier County Government
Center, 3301 E. Tamiami Trail, Naples
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Changes and Approval of Agenda
IV. Public Comments
V. Approval of CAC Minutes
1. April 15, 2005
VI. Staff Reports
1. Revenue Report
2. Monthly Project Status Report
VII. New Business
1. Change Order request for $42,300 for T -Groin and Jetty Construction
2. Hideaway Beach Additional Sand Change Order
3. Review of Contract Documents and Specifications for the Major Renourishment - Scheduled
November 2005
VIII. Old Business
1. Inlet Subcommittee Report
2. County/City of Naples Beach Renourishment Update
3. Hideaway Beach Renourishment Update
4. Marco South Beach RenourishmentlCaxambas Pass Dredging Update
5. Wiggins Pass Dredging Update
6. Doctors Pass Renourishment Update
IX. Public Comments
X. Announcements
XI. Committee Member Discussion
XII. Next Meeting Date/Location
1. June 9, 2005 - 1 :00 p.m. - BCC Board Room
XIII. Adjournment
All interested parties are invited to attend, and to register to speak and to submit their objections, if any, in writing, to the board prior to
the meeting if applicable.
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1. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Ron Pennington at 1 :00 PM.
II. Roll Call - Mr. Snediker was excused. This was his last meeting.
III. Changes & Approval of Agenda - None - Mr. Arceri moved to approve the
Agenda as submitted. Second by Mr. Sorey. Carried unanimously 8-0.
IV. Public Comments - None
V. Approval of CAC Minutes - April 15, 2005
Mr. Hendel moved to approve the minutes of April 15, 2005. Second by Mr.
Pires. Carried unanimously 8-0.
VI. Staff Reports - Gary McAlpin
1. Revenue Report - (Attached)
· Good month for collections
· Budget $6,571,000 - collected $7,390,000
· Still on track for Budget and Category "A" funds
2. Monthly Project Status Report (Attached)
· Working on closing projects and continue to work with Dr. Bauer
· The TDC Emergency Fund 194 is different than the CAC's 195 fund
· CAC acquires 2/3 of the Bed Tax
VII. New Business
1. Change Order request for $42,300 for T -Groin & Jetty Construction -
Gary McAlpin
Was late in getting the Biological opinion which stated they are not allowed to
store equipment on the beach. Worked with the Contractor and Fish and Wildlife.
A plan was suggested to provide a backhoe that's mobile and can be stored off the
beach and not delay the schedule. Discussed clarification of equipment and
problems encountered. The cost of the Change Order is $42,300 for a time and
material basis.
Mr. Arceri moved to approve the $42,300 Change Order request to allow the
removal of the equipment on the Beach. Second by Mr. Sullivan. Carried
unanimously 8-0.
2. Hideaway Beach Additional Sand Change Order - Gary McAlpin
Explained where more sand is needed in different areas. Hideaway Beach
Association has the ability to fund an additional $185,000 for additional 40,000
cubic yards of sand. The Budget needs to be revised for additional revenues of
$185,000 and to allow Weeks Marines' Contract to be increased by adding the
40,000 cubic yards of sand.
Mr. Sorey moved approval of the Hideaway Beach Additional Sand Change
Order. Second by Mr. Arceri. Carried unanimously 8-0.
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3. Review of Contract Documents and Specifications for the Major
Renourishment - Scheduled November 2005 - Gary McAlpin
The specifications prepared by Coastal Planning & Engineering are typical and
complete. The report had been emailed to all Committee members.
Called to the Committees attention:
. Liquated damages and obligations - firm given 151 days after Notice to
Proceed or may be assessed $1,800 per day thereafter until completion.
Discussion followed on various items on the downloaded document.
Need to go out for bid by June 1st, pre-bid on June 7th and award on June
26th. A Special meeting may be needed.
VIII. Old Business
2. County/City of Naples Beach Renourishment Update - Gary McAlpin
No additional information to give - but going out for bid. Discussed the 20 year
easements Mr. McAlpin can provide a list to the committee of those that have and
have not signed the agreements.
3. Hideaway Beach Renourishment Update - Gary McAlpin
· Completed sand survey
· Relocated position of jetty
· Weeks Marine on site 5/23-5/28. Will be placing sand on beach in June.
· Delays due to weather and contractor not demobilizing from a past proj ect.
· Committee concerned of delays of the project by contractor and being in
turtle season
Maura Krause - Environmental Services - had first turtle nest on Mother's
Day - also mentioned they are not happy with the delays and all the equipment on
the beach etc. as they are going into peak nesting season.
Members discussed further their dissatisfaction and frustration of the delays.
Discussed the contract, penalty clauses and future contracts concerning
scheduling.
4. Marco South Beach Renourishment/Caxambas Pass Dredging Update-
Gary McAlpin
· Received RAI from DEP for clarification which is being done
· Met with MI Waterways Committee for reviewing proposed location of
Caxambas Pass dredge area.
5. Wiggins Pass Dredging Update - Gary McAlpin
· Comments from public on depth of dredge
· Have dredged 38,000 cubic yards to date
· May not be as deep, but will be navigable and useable for a couple of
years.
6. Doctors Pass Renourishment Update - Ron Pennington
· Did Sea grass survey and no problems
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· Bid letters sent - Pre-bid May 11
· Will have special meeting to look at bids
· End of July is anticipated start date
BREAK - 2:32 PM
RECONVENED - 2:44 PM
The new member, Mr. Gerald Camiener was introduced and welcomed.
Mr. Pires and Mr. Sorey were reappointed and a new applicant should be at the
next meeting taking Mr. Snediker's position.
1. Inlet Subcommittee Report - Mr. Sullivan
The boat trip was a success with 20 persons and a tram ride through Clam Pass
followed.
Gave excerpts of past meetings and some of the Committees findings and
decisions:
· Keep it simple and all encompassing and an overview of Inlet
Management Plans
· Started with Wiggins Pass and would attach a schematic
· Focus had been beach renourishment - and dredging passes to accomplish
that.
· Referred to Draft (Attached) - keeping the inlets navigable for commercial
and recreational boating in addition to beach renourishment.
· Passes filling in with sand too fine for beach use and what do they do with
it.
· Plan was to keep it simple, use any engineering drawings and going back
in June.
· In previous sub-committee meeting, Mr. Pennington was asking to look at
addressing just "beach quality sand" only. This would limit the role of the
sub-committee.
Discussion took place with some of the following remarks:
o Beach quality sand is required by the permitting agencies for grain
size to match what is on that beach.
o Inlets and beach renourishment
o Interlocal Agreements - dredging & navigational passes
Mr. Pennington mentioned there are a lot of questions - all being relevant and
pertinent, but none with what the Sub-committees task was. The Sub-committee
dug into many issues and exceeded far beyond his expectations.
He gave a synopsis on the appointment of a sub-committee and its purpose. Also
gave a history of category "A" funds and beach improvement and maintenance
which included the inlet maintenance. Read part of the State Statutes concerning
putting sand on the beaches.
What they are doing has to be consistent with the policy adopted by the Board of
County Commissioners. Mr. Pennington read the policy relating to the inlet and
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beach quality sand. When requests are made to fund certain activities in inlets
and the boundaries aren't defined, not sure they can fund it out of Tourist Tax or
not. He stated nothing defines the particular parameters. What can be funded by
Tourist Tax money is the question. He recommended defining the other passes in
the County other than Doctors Pass.
After he met with the Commissioners, they agreed Mr. Pennington was to bring
back the portion of each pass that would be funded by Tourist Tax monies. That's
when the Sub-committee was appointed. He wants to go back to the
Commissioners with recommendations of what should be funded for each pass.
Mr. Pennington discussed the different aspects ofthe different passes. The
parameters need to be defined. (Boundaries - not specifics)
Stated an Interlocal Agreement between Marco Island and the County should be
done.
More explanation of what should be taken back to the Commissioners was given.
Comments and rebuttal:
· Name of sub-committee not appropriate
· Thought was not to do agreement in piecemeal
· Surprised Gordon Pass not included
· There is a problem with not having "specifics"
· 2 Dimensional Chart - stating an area of responsibility but not what the
responsibility is - was Mr. Sullivan's summary.
· Felt having a plan for Gordon Pass is essential
(Mr. Pires left at 3:40 PM)
· Didn't want to limit recommendations to BCC
· Committee could make a recommendation on a change in the inlet funding
policy
· Add suggested policy changes on inlets that should be taken into
consideration
· Changes need to go to the TDC
· Present a Phase I and Phase II recommendation (with separate entities)
· Coordination with County and City
After additional discussion, Mr. Hendel moved the Sub-committee proceed in
2 phases. Second by Mr. Sorey. Carried unanimously 8-0.
IX. Public Comments - None
X. Announcements - May be a Special Meeting in June.
XI. Committee Member Discussion - Mr. Arceri asked about delays on Hideaway
Beach. If there are delays, Mr. McAlpin responded a Special Meeting may be called
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and options be given.
XII. Next Meeting Date/Location
1. June 9, 2005 - 1 :00 PM - BCC Board Room
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting adjourned
by order of the chair at 4:09 PM.
COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Ron Pennington, Chairman
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