CEB Minutes 03/29/2005 W
March 29, 2005
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER
COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD
WORKSHOP
Naples, Florida, March 29, 2005
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Code
Enforcement Board in and for the County of Collier, having conducted
business herein, met on this date at 9:30 AM for a Workshop at Community
Development Environmental Services Building, 2800 North Horseshoe
Drive, Conference Room #609, Naples, Florida, with the following members
present:
CHAIRMAN: Clifford Flegal
George Ponte
Raymond Bowie
Gerald Lefebvre
Roberta Dusek-Absent
Sheri Barnett-Absent
Nicolas Hemes-Absent
Richard Kraenbring-Absent
ALSO PRESENT: Michelle Arnold, Code Enforcement Director
Leonardo Bonanno, Secretary to the Board
Jean Rawson, Assistant County Attorney
Jennifer Belpedio, Assistant County Attorney
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CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD OF COLLIER COUNTY. FLORIDA
WORKSHOP AGENDA
Date: MARCH 29, 2005 at 9:30 a.m.
Location: Community Development and Economic Services
2800 North Horseshoe Drive, Naples
NOTE: ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE
PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A VERBA TIM RECORD OF THE
PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL [S
TO BE BASED. NEITHER COLLIER COUNTY NOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
PROVIDING THIS RECORD.
1. ROLL CALL
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
3. TOPICS OF DISCUSSION
A. ANNUAL ETHICS COVERAGE
1. Distribution of Materials - Leonardo Bonanno, Secretary to the Board
B. ABSENTEEISM
1. Distribution of 2005 CEB Calendar - Leonardo Bonanno, Secretary to the Board
C. EVIDENCE PACKET DISTRIBUTION
1. Topic of Discussion submitted by Clifford Flegal, Code Enforcement Board Chairman
D. EXECUTIVE SUMMARIES
1. Topic of Discussion submitted by Roberta Dusek, Code Enforcement Board Vice Chairman
E. LIEN ENFORCEMENT: MORTGAGE FORECLOSURES & HOMESTEADED PROPERTIES
1. Topic of Discussion submitted by Raymond Bowie
F. CODE ENFORCEMENT RECOMMENDATIONS
1. Topic of Discussion submitted by George Ponte
G. CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD RULES AND REGULATIONS
1. Length of Chairman Term - Topic of Discussion submitted by George Ponte
2. Authority of the Secretary to the Board - Topic of Discussion submitted by Michelle Arnold, Director
3. Public Comments - Topic of Discussion submitted by Jennifer Belpedio, Assistant County Attorney
4. Chairman Impeachment - Topic of Discussion submitted by Sheri Barnett
H. OFFICER PROCEDURES
1. Topic of Discussion submitted by Richard Kraenbring
I. NOTEWORTHY CASES
1. BCC vs. Philip Marrone CEB 2001-13
4. MISCELLANEOUS
5. NEXT CEB HEARING
MARCH 30, 2005
6. ADJOURN
March 29,2005
1. The workshop was called to order by Chairman Clifford Flegal at 9:33 AM.
Roll call was taken with a quorum established. Ms. Barnett, Mr. Kraenbring,
Mr. Hemes and Ms. Dusek were not in attendance.
2. Approval of Agenda - accepted with no changes.
3. Topics of Discussion:
A. Annual Ethics Coverage
1. Distribution of Materials - Leonardo Bonanno, Secretary to the
Board
Michelle Arnold stated if anyone has any questions after reviewing it, to
bring it to her attention.
B. Absenteeism
1. Distribution of 2005 CE Calendar - Leonardo Bonanno, Secretary to
the Board.
The Hearing Schedule was distributed and Mr. Flegal reminded everyone
to make sure they attend all the hearings unless an emergency.
· Workshops are important.
· Directory with names and addresses handed out.
· Important to notify Chairman or Leo Bonanno (Sec) when being
absent from a meeting.
C. Evidence Packet Distribution
1. Topic of discussion submitted by Clifford Flegal, Code Enforcement
Board Chairman - Discussed the following issues of not having packets in
advance of hearings:
· Meetings being typical of a court with testimony
· Not receiving packets with all the information in advance
· Having presentations given from both sides at the hearings
· Act like a jury
· Will save Secretary many hours from sending out packets
Jean Rawson discussed concerns dealing with introducing items into
evidence, rulings, testimony, due process and fair trials.
Leo Bonanno informed them the Special Master handles it that way -
getting evidence the day of. The Special Master likes it, as it is too time
consuming otherwise.
A lengthy discussion followed concerning receipt of pictures and having
evidence in advance, pre-determination of cases and procedures.
It was a consensus of those in attendance to try the new procedure of
receiving evidence at the hearings. It will be brought up at their
Wednesday meeting.
Ms. Rawson will make the necessary changes to the By-Laws.
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D. Executive Summaries
1. Topic of discussion submitted by Roberta Dusek, Code Enforcement
Board Vice Chairman - Ms. Dusek was not in attendance. After the above
discussion it was decided this is a mute subject.
E. Lien Enforcement: Mortgage Foreclosures & Homesteaded Properties
1. Topic of Discussion submitted by Raymond Bowie - (Attached)
Some concerns and proposals:
· Code Liens not being good against Homesteaded property
· A bigger problem is when owner sells property subject to existing
code violations.
· Appears County Attorneys office hasn't secured payment of code
liens when mortgage foreclosures take place upon the property that
has a lien
· Homestead rights and Power of Attorney discussed
· Several proposals were given in the handout (Attached)
· Three "Exhibits" were introduced and discussed (Attached)
It was asked of the County Attorneys office to look into the solutions
and forms.
F. Code Enforcement Recommendations
1. Topic of Discussion submitted by George Ponte - the Rules &
Regulations state limiting the Chairmanship for 2 years. He would like to
see an option to continue. It may not be easy to find someone on the
Board to fill the Chairman's position. The Chairman may want to
continue or not continue but would like to have that option created.
Ms. Rawson responded they need to decide whether they want "term
limits." Many Boards have "term limits." The Rules & Regulations can
be changed.
Michelle Arnold will check on the "term limit" and let the Committee
know tomorrow if the Rules & Regulations can be revised to make the
change.
G. Code Enforcement Board Rules & Regulation
1. Length of Chairman Term - Topic of Discussion submitted by
George Ponte - discussed above.
4. Chairman Impeachment - Topic of Discussion submitted by Sheri
Barnett - Mr. Flegal mentioned Sheri's concern was an uncontrollable
Chairman with no provision to remove them.
Ms. Rawson stated it would have to state "with cause", and then state
what the cause is. Mr. Flegal did not agree. After some discussion, it was
decided to ask Sheri to bring it up at tomorrow's meeting and Ms. Rawson
will see what the Commissioners regulations state and model it after their
rules.
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Discussion followed on cases being justified and why. Members need to
make sure any fines etc., are justified, and ifthere is a question, it should
be asked.
2. Authority of the Secretary to the Board - Topic of discussion
submitted by Michelle Arnold, Director - discussed how much
authority the Secretary has in preparing the Agenda with time periods,
after-the-fact rehearing etc. The Secretary knows the appeals process and
rules and if a packet is presented after the deadline date, does the Secretary
have the authority to say "no?" If the rules and deadlines are not met, it is
not to be put on the Agenda unless it is an appeal process. They have a
right to come that day, but the Board doesn't have to hear it.
The Committee stated they need to live by the Statutes with no exceptions.
3. Public Comments - Topic of Discussion submitted by Jennifer
Belpedio, Assistant County Attorney - she explained a possible revision
to the rules and regulations with adding "Public Comments" at the end of
their Agendas allowing person/s to speak before the Board. An incident
occurred in the past in which a person had been through a hearing process,
fined and then wanted to speak before the Board. He felt he wouldn't be
allowed to speak, so he signed up for Public Petition before the BCC. The
BCC advised and took the direction that a person should be able to speak
before a public forum.
She and Ms. Rawson came up with wording that would allow a person to
speak under "Public Comment." This would not be for lodging
complaints, but to just speak. No action taken and a 3-minute limit.
The Committee was not in favor of the suggestion for the following
reasons:
· Not in the business of listening to people just talk.
· The Board's purpose is for infractions, hearing the case and
making a decision unless they appeal.
· Do not want to have a Public Forum to listen to people meander.
· No screening mechanism - too wide open.
· Is not a Town Meeting.
· Why open up a "can of worms" after there has been a decision
already made.
· They are there for one purpose.
· Could be abused by many........ .discussed in further detail
· They had a concern of "anyone" talking about "anything" - being
a non-agenda item.
· A person wanting to talk about their case again is not what they
feel their hearings are all about.
It was suggested they discuss it at tomorrow's meeting - the transcript
from the BCC win be provided the members before discussing.
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H. Officer Procedures
1. Topic of Discussion submitted by Richard Kraenbring-
Mr. Kraenbring was not in attendance.
His concern was: procedures to follow when being a Chairman of a
meeting. Would like to see it formalized so a Chairman would know what
to say and when.
Mr. Flegal hoped whoever is Chairman has been on the Board for awhile
understanding the process and procedures of the past in order to be an
effective Chairman and/or Vice Chairman.
I. Noteworthy Cases
1. BCC vs. Philip Marrone CEB 2001-13 - Jennifer Belpedio - a
packet was distributed with a memo. (Attached) The Board will be asked
to approve fines against the Marrone's but just the status of the Circuit
Court Case Ruling. She gave a history of the past concerning the sign
violation - Little Italy Restaurant. Fourteen months were given to abate
the violation. Many deadlines passed. Circuit Court ordered that the CEB
was correct in not having jurisdiction. Being the hearing hasn't occurred,
she asked discussions be limited to future process for rescheduling
motions and any amendments to the Rules and Regulations.
4. Miscellaneous
· Will try to schedule a Workshop for Board Members
· Subpoena forms will be available for use.
· Orders - read into the record once is all that is necessary - can state a summary
rather than being redundant is all that is needed.
· Rules and Regulations and the new program for the packets discussed earlier will
start in May - to be voted on in April
5. Next CEB Hearing
March 30, 2005
There being no further business for the good of the County, the workshop was
adjourned by the chair at 11 :40 PM.
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COLLIER COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD WORKSHOP
Chairman Clifford Flegal
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