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March 10, 2005
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER
COUNTY COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, March 10, 2005
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Coastal
Advisory Committee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted
business herein, met on this date at I :00 PM in REGULAR SESSION in
Building "F of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the
following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Ron Pennington
John Arceri
Murray Hendel
Heidi Kulpa
Tony Pires
James Snediker
John Sorey III
Paul Sullivan (Excused)
ALSO PRESENT: Gary McAlpin, Coastal Projects Mgr.
Maria Bernal, Tourist Tax Coordinator, Tourism
Heidi Ashton, Assistant County Attorney
Mark Isackson, OMB
Dr. Mike Bauer, Natural Resources Mgr.
Ron Hovell
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MEETING AGENDA & NOTICE
COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE (CAC)
THURSDAY, MARCH 10, 2005
W. Harmon Turner Building (Administration Building F) Collier County Government Center, 3301 E.
Tamiami Trail, Naples
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Changes and Approval of Agenda
IV. Public Comments
V. Approval of CAC Minutes
1. February 10, 2005 - Regular Meeting
2. February 18, 2005 - 10-year Plan Workshop
VI. Staff Reports
1 . Revenue Report
2. Monthly Status Report
VII. New Business
1. Fiscal Year 2005 Out-ot-Cycle Grant Applications
a. County/City ot Naples Annual Beach Monitoring 2005
2. Fiscal Year 2006 Tourist Development Council Category "A" Grant Applications
a. Miscellaneous
i. County/City of Naples Annual Beach Monitoring
ii. 90527 City of Naples Beach Renourishment
iii. 90527 Collier County Shorebird Management Plan (Environmental Services)
iv. Beach Tilling and Permit Maintenance
b. City of Naples
i. Post Project Environmental Monitoring of Doctors Pass
ii. City of Naples Beach Cleaning
C. City of Marco Island
i. Hideaway Beach Monitoring
ii. Marco Island Laser Grading
iii. Marco South Beach Renourishment
iv. Marco Island Beach and Pass Monitoring
v. Hideaway Beach Tilling
vi. Caxambas Pass "Extended" Dredging
d. Environmental Services Department
i. Collier County Sea Turtle Monitoring & Beach Studies
e. Parks and Recreation Department
i. Beach Cleaning
ii. Vanderbilt Beach Access Paved Walkway and Walk Bridge (Informational Purpose Only)
iii. Wiggins Pass Monitoring
iv. Beach Accesses Landscaping (Informational Purpose Only)
f. Pelican Bay
i. Clam Pass Annual Monitoring
g. Tourism Department
i. Project Management & Misc. Fees
VIII. Old Business
1. County/City ot Naples Beach Renourishment
2. Hideaway Beach Renourishment Update
3. Marco South Beach Renourishment/Caxambas Pass Dredging Update
4. Wiggins Pass Dredging Update
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5. Doctors Pass Renourishment Update
6. Tigertail-Sand Dollar Island Boardwalk Consultant Report
IX. Public Comments
X. Announcements
XI. Committee Member Discussion
XII. Next Meeting Date/Location
1. April 14, 2005 - 1 :00 p.m. - BCC Board Room
XIII. Adjournment
All interested parties are invited to attend, and to register to speak and to submit their objections, if any, in writing, to the board prior to
the meeting if applicable.
For more information, please contact Maria Bernal at (239) 213-2966.
If you are a person with a disability who needs any accommodation in order to participate in this proceeding, you are entitled, at no cost
to you, to the provision of certain assistance. Please contact the Collier County Facilities Management Department located at 3301 East
Tamiami Trail, Naples, FL 34112, (239) 774-8380.
Public comments will be limited to 5 minutes unless the Chairman grants permission for additional time.
Collier County Ordinance No. 99-22 requires that all lobbyists shall, before engaging in any lobbying activities (including, but not limited
to, addressing the Board of County Commissioners) before the Board of County Commissioners and its advisory boards, register with the
Clerk to the Board at the Board Minutes and Records Department.
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I. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Ron Pennington at 1 :00 PM.
II. Roll Call:
Roll call was taken with a quorum established. Mr. Sullivan is excused.
Mr. Pennington introduced Mike Bauer, Natural Resources Mgr. for the City of
Naples.
III. Changes and Approval of Agenda:
Mr. Arceri moved to approve the Agenda. Add under "New Business". 1. A.
Vanderbilt Parking Garage.
Mr. Arceri moved to accept the Agenda as amended. Second by Mr.
Snediker. Carried unanimously 7-0.
IV. Public Comments - None
V. Approval of CAC Minutes:
1. February 10, 2005 - Regular Meeting - Page 4 - Restate - Mr. Pires
returned after the Recess at 3:41 PM.
Mr. Arceri moved to approve the February 10, 2005 minutes as amended.
Seconded. Carried unanimously 7-0.
2. February 18, 2005 - 10-year Plan Workshop - Page 2 - Committee felt a
better word to use by Mark should have been informing instead of lobbying.
Minutes were accepted and seconded as changed. Carried unanimously 7-0.
VI. Staff Reports: Gary McAlpin
1. Revenue Report - Mark Isackson - OMB
The Budget figures ofFY '05 "Current" and FY '05 "Forecast" was distributed
and covered with the various items discussed.
2. Monthly Status Report - Gary McAlpin
The report will now be distributed each month. Spreadsheet discussed.
Dr. Bauer - Natural Resources Manager for the City of Naples covered
information on the various items concerning the City.
VII. New Business:
1. Fiscal Year 2005 Out-of-Cycle Grant Applications
a. County/City of Naples Annual Beach Monitoring 2005-
Mr. McAlpin - correction was issued to state $100,000 for Engineering.
Mr. Arceri moved to accept the grant application. Second by Mr.
Snediker. Carried unanimously 7"-0.
b. Vanderbilt Parking Garage - Ron Hovell
Have bids and will go to the BCC on March 22nd. There are additional
costs of$100,000. Low bidder is $7.6M. Staff is asking approval for an
$8M commercial paper loan. 200 additional parking spaces, financial and
construction costs were discussed.
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Mr. Arceri moved to support thefinancìng of the Vanderbilt Parking
Garage. Second by Mr. Sorey. Carried 6-1. Mr. Hendel voted "no."
2. Fiscal Year 2006 Tourist Development Council Category "A" Grant
Applications:
a. Miscellaneous
i. County/City of Naples Annual Beach Monitoring - $100,000
Monitoring is typically done in the summer. 2005 budget is not
currently budgeted because they assumed the post construction
monitoring would be sufficient. Monitoring includes from County
line through Barefoot Beach, Wiggins State Park and south of
Naples etc.
Was noted they are only monitoring the part that has been
renourished. Mr. Pennington mentioned it is an advantage not to
minimize the costs.
Mr. Snediker moved to approve. Second by Mr. Sorey. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
ii. 90527 City of Naples Beach Renourishment - Artificial Reef
$2,000,000
Mr. Sorey moved to approve. Second by Mr. Pires. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
iii. 90527 Collier County Shorebird Management Plan
(Environmental Services) - Doug Suitor - $27,175
He explained the overhead costs, secretarial costs etc. Some of the
budget costs are required by DEP.
Mr. Hendel moved to approve. Second by Mr. Arceri. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
iv. Beach Tilling and Permit Maintenance - $20,000
Marco Island is listed as a separate application because of the laser
grading.
Mr. Arceri moved to approve. Second by Mr. Sorey. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
b. City of Naples
i. Post Project Environmental Monitoring of Doctor Pass -
$65,000
Mr. Pires suggested recommendation for approval and recommend
the Board make legislative findings that it is eligible for funding.
Mr. Pires moved to approve. Second by Mr. Hendel. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
ii. City of Naples Beach Cleaning -$60,000
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Mr. Hendel moved to approve. Second by Mr. Sorey. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
c. City of Marco Island
i. Hideaway Beach Monitoring - $115,000
Mr. Snediker move to approve. Second by Mr. Hendel. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
ii. Marco Island Laser Grading - $25,000
Ms. Kulpa moved to approve. Second by Mr. Snediker. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
iii. Marco South Beach Renourishment - $1,900,000
Mr. Snediker moved to approve. Second by Mr. Arceri. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
iv. Marco Island Beach and Pass Monitoring - $85,000
Discussed hurricanes and FEMA funding. Staff recommends
approval of the application even though it is not a requirement for
any permits.
Mr. Sorey moved to approve. Second by Ms. Kulpa. Carried 6-1.
Mr. Pires voted "no."
v. Hideaway Beach Tilling - $5,000
It was noted the City of Marco Island will reimburse Collier
County for the cost of the tilling.
Mr. Arceri moved to approve with it being a reimbursable cost to
the County from the City of Marco Island. Second by Mr.
Snediker. Carried unanimously 7-0.
vi. Caxambas Pass "Extended" Dredging - $2,000,000
Mr. Arceri clarified and agreed that it was not a TDC eligible
funded project and is not in the County Resolution. He stated it
should be withdrawn and discussion followed on if and when it is
eligible.
Mr. Sorey moved to disapprove the grant request project.
Second by Mr. Arceri. Motion to deny carried unanimously 7-0.
d. Environmental Services Department
i. Collier County Sea Turtle Monitoring & Beach Studies -
$162,500
Mr. Hendel asked for the previous year's budget. Mr. McAlpin
responded $149,000 was approved for last year's budget of which
has been spent. Maura Krause reported there were a lot of
hurricane expenses.
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Mr. Hendel moved to approve. Second Ms. Kulpa. Carried
unallimously 7-0.
e. Parks and Recreation Department
i. Beach Cleaning - $220,500
Mr. Sorey moved to approve. Second by Mr. Arceri. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
ii. Vanderbilt Beach Access Paved Walkway & Walk Bridge
(Informational Purpose Only)
iii. Wiggins Pass Monitoring - $34,000
Ms. Kulpa moved to approve. Second by Mr. Arceri. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
iv. Beach Accesses Landscaping (Informational Purposes Only)
f. Pelican Bay
i. Clam Pass Annual Monitoring - $11,000
Mr. Pires moved to approve. Second by Mr. Sorey. Carried
unanimously 7-0.
g. Tourism Department
i. Project Management & Misc. Fees - $420,000
This does not include a Coastal Systems Manager as it is
questionable whether Tourist Tax Funds can be justified as the
individual will be dealing with many other issues beyond the beach
renourishment project.
Mr. Arceri moved to accept the application. Second by Mr.
Snediker. Carried unanimously 7-0.
A Break was taken:
VIII. Old Business
1. County/City of Naples Beach Renourishment
A workshop will be held today on the erosion control lines at 5 :00 - 6:00 PM.
with a public hearing at 6:00 PM.
Steve Keehn -Coastal Engineer with Coastal Planning & Engineering -
Update on Artificial Reef slide presentation:
· Investigated 5 potential sites of which were shown and explained
· Showed the site recommended
· Indicated the reasons for being the site chosen
· Next phase is to design the site
· Ready to submit documents to DEP and move towards Notice to Proceed
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· Discussed schedule and priorities with biological opinion's and problems
(US Fish & Wildlife has not completed the biological opinion, therefore
Federal permits not anticipated in next few months)
· Agencies not responding in a timely manner
· Looking to start construction in November and finished by April 1st which
is still doable.
2. Hideaway Beach Renourishment Update - Gary McAlpin
· Three options on project
.' Need Biological opinion and easements
· Need to resolve the mangrove mitigation plan - working with DEP and
given proposal for exotic removal. . . . . .
· When Notice to Proceed is issued, they will move forward.
· Permit allows work to continue through turtle season and place sand on
the beach 24/7. (Could work 12 hours a day and not during the night)
A lengthy discussion followed on working in turtle season and the working
hours. One option is holding off until after turtle season.
. Dredge will be available April ih
Mr. Pennington reiterated the options as being:
1) Going ahead with the Contract as is 24/7 (If around the clock people will be on
the beach at night for approx. $15,000/mo.)
2) Work 12 hours during turtle season but not at night. (Increase $500,000)
3) Project be deferred until November and mayor may not be an increase in
mobilization costs.
SPEAKERS
Dick Freeman - Hideaway resident & Chairman of Hideaway District Board - has
had conversations with Nancy Ritchie and found the primary location where the turtles
will nest is where Coconut Island use to be. Nancy hoped the main turtle nesting season
would be in the gulf and onto that beach, but no beach there. Placing the sand will
increase further turtle nesting. The water temperatures make a difference also. Her
opinion is the early part of May would not be a nesting time for the turtles. Approx.70%
of the residents leave sometime before May 1st and would be best if the project was done
at that time. They would prefer Option 1 in getting it done now.
Nicole Ryan - Conservancy of SWFL - stated she can't comment on the specifics of
the subject, but that it could be a dangerous precedent of doing beach renourishment
during turtle nesting season. Biological opinion is an "incidental take statement." It
means the government is saying the actions likely could harm, harass and kill listed
species and allowed to do it. Usually Cities and Counties hold developers to a higher
standard, and if municipalities are doing something that requires "incidental take
statements", how can they ask them to try to avoid impact? She was concerned.
Maura Krause - Environmental Department - she runs the sea turtle program - If
done during turtle season she would have to have someone there during the entire
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evening. It would make it difficult for them to find someone. Another option in looking
at the dates; it's the end of July, beginning of August when the turtles stop coming in on
Marco Island. Her suggestion was a compromise and let the turtles make their nests, lay
their eggs, and then move them. So if they would wait until August there could be a
compromise and they would move the nests. Nancy Ritchie is not in favor of
renourishing during turtle season.
Much discussion and opinions were expressed by the Committee members. They will
look at the dredge and timing before the next meeting.
Options are: 1) Make a determination now, 2) Continue until the next meeting, or 3)
wait until all the information is in and call a Special Meeting.
Mr. Snediker moved to attempt to get more information: the opinion from Fish &
Wildlife, written agreement from Contractors on impact of November 1st and a
better understanding of turtle impact if the project is done in the month of May, and
with the information, they consider meeting to decide on Option 1 or go until
November. Second by Mr. Sorey.
Discussion was held on calling and holding another meeting.
Mr. Snediker amended his motion to add: on or about the 23rd of March for their
next meeting depending upon availability. After checking availability it was decided
to hold the meeting on the 24th of March.
Motion carried 5-2. Ms. Kulpa and Mr. Hendel voting "no".
3. Marco South Beach Renourishment/Caxambas Pass Dredging Update -
Gary McAlpin
Gary did not have the information needed.
Ms. Ashton mentioned the Resolution from 1995 reflects the Boards policy and
continues in existence until the Board adopts a Resolution to terminate the policy
or changes it.
Taylor Engineering has made application for the permit and is moving forward
with DEP.
4. Wiggins Pass Dredging Update - Gary McAlpin
Gary gave some background and stated 11,000 cubic yards of material has been
dredged. There have been weather and equipment breakdowns so not operating
2417. The Permit from DEP allows them to operate until April 1st. They are
applying for a permit extension until May 1 st and investigating with DEP to see if
it can be extended into turtle season.
Mr. Sorey asked for a recap of the Committees concern for the record.
Mr. Pennington mentioned this is the low bidder and he is leasing the equipment
being used. The reason they hired this particular company was they were told if
they did not award the Contract to the low bidder, they could expect a protest
which could tie them up for some time. The people at Wiggins Pass were very
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concerned, so preceded with this company. They will work under the
circumstances with the permits and may have to amend the scope ofthe project.
In the future they suggested being a little more rigid writing their specifications.
5. Doctors Pass Renourishment Update - Ron Pennington
RAI #3 has been received. Discussed the Corp needing another survey on the sea
grasses. Major concern was the project being coordinated with the Collier County
project and signed by the County. Mr. Pennington continued to give an update.
Steve Keehn reported on the permit modifications and stated he is ready to send
all the documents to DEP. All the issues are covered and will be addressed with
DEP.
6. Tigertail-Sand Dollar Island Boardwalk Consultant Report - Murdo
Smith/Parks & Recreation - just received the report, has not reviewed it yet and
will do so with the Project Managers and Division Administrator.
· Mr. Pennington read from the Executive Summary.
· Mr. Sorey stated for the record, TDC voted unanimously to not pursue
the project and recommended to the BCC not spend any more time or
effort on it.
SPEAKER
Nicole Ryan - Conservancy of SWFL - she was outraged, and to have a report state it
is not going to work, she stated, it's time to bury the Boardwalk issue.
Mr. Sorey moved to recommend this be the conclusion of this project with a letter
written to the County Commission from the Chairman expressing their views.
This is based on the consultants report. Second by Mr. Hendel.
Discussion followed.
Mr. Hendel called for the question. Carried unanimously 7-0.
IX. Public Comments - None
X. Announcements - Confirmed meeting for March 24th - 1 :00 PM.
- Two applications have been received for the vacant position on
the Committee.
- Mr. Pires, Mr. Sorey and Mr. Snediker's positions expire on
March 22nd.
- Mr. Sorey's position is a City Council representative and will be
made by the Council.
- Marco Island will also make their recommendations.
- Mr. Pennington mentioned the term of office is for one year and
expires in April. They will elect a Chair at that time and stated the
incumbent may be re-elected if the Committee desires.
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XI. Committee Member Discussion
· Mr. Sorey would like to see a summer schedule.
· Mr. Pennington mentioned they need to meet 11 times a year and can
take one month off in the summer.
· The workshop will be held at 5 :00 PM on Erosion Control Line.
XII. Next Meeting Date/Location
1. April 14, 2005 - 1 :00 PM - BCC Board Room
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was adjourned
by order ofthe Chair at 4:35 PM.
COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Chairman Ron Pennington
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