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EPTAB Minutes 11/14/1994 DRAFT: APPROVED: a//-p/9t/ ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY TECHNICAL ADVISORY BOARD NOVEMBER 14 , 1994 MINUTES PRESENT: Dorothea Zysko Derek Hodgin Charles Ray Gary Wilson Nancy Payton Robert Duane Dave Addison Mike Taranto Steve Means NOTIFIED ABSENCE: Jack Baxter STAFF: Marjorie Student Dick Hartwell Jane Lang (4:50 p.m. Jerry Neal and Steve Keehn) PUBLIC: Virginia Corkran Brad Cornell Adam White Chris Straton I. 4:15 p.m. Meeting called to order. II. Roll was called by Dorothea Zysko. III. Dorothea: The minutes from the October 10, 1994 meeting were approved unanimously with one correction. OLD BUSINESS: IV. Dorothea: Inlet Management Plan needs action by our EPTAB, but Jerry Neal is not present at this time. There should be a Special Meeting on the Wiggins Pass Inlet Management Plan. All in favor signified by saying "aye" . The date is set for Wednesday, November 30, at 4 :00 p.m. The 11/30 meeting is a continuation of this November 14 meeting and does not need to be advertised. V. Standing Reports: Nancy and Derek need to talk with Bill Lorenz about the schedule for the EAR work plan. Report by Derek on Agenda Items. The agenda is set two weeks before meetings. Anyone who has an item for the agenda should give it to the Steering Committee. Steering Committee asks about Collier County Natural Resource Director. Dick Hartwell: The job is being advertised in Florida Environmental and Florida Specifier. There are a number of internal applicants. Theme of Inlet Water Management Plan: increasing the width or depth of Wiggins Pass and being able to evaluate the time between dredging. Jerry explained from page 165 some management recommendations. - C ', ' ' / �� Standing Committee Reports: Agenda items for EPTAB meetings: In the past, members have contacted Dorothea. In the future, members may contact the Steering Committee. Agenda should be set no sooner than two weeks prior to next/upcoming meeting. EAR: Whether EPTAB is the formal county body - we want to look at policies and give recommendations. Marjorie Student: Stan Litzsinger is planning to take the EAR to the BCC by December of 1994 . Robert Duane read from a memo. Look at where we are/ assemble and track where were are and how we got there/analyze. The Sub-committee is frustrated as the DCA is unsure what they want/ie; what will satisfy them. The question is do we really need to do this. Jerry Neal and Steve Keehn present Inlet Water Management Plan to EPTAB before their third public workshop at 6: 00 p.m. tonight. Jerry passes out four handouts. Steve recited major points - the closure of Little Hickory, subsequent dredging, and the fluctuating pass. The Army Corps of Engineers had different navigation standards than the County's. The channel has been dredged four times, but the existing channel is not working. Steve gave excellent overhead projection. Motion made to continue this meeting. Jane will FAX to remind EPTAB members of next meeting. ***************************************************************** CONTINUATION OF 11/14/94 EPTAB MEETING ON NOVEMBER 30, 1994 ROOM C AT 4 : 00 P.M. (The focus of this meeting being a recommendation of the Clam Bay Inlet Management Plan. I. 4 : 10 P.M. Meeting called to order. II. Jack Baxter's request for extension was discussed. The extension until February will be decided upon by the Board. III. Roll Call: All members present but not Gary Wilson. Robert Duane and Jack Baxter excused. OLD BUSINESS: IV. Derek Hodgin: The rock stabilizing inlet throat would not be moved and is a minor problem because of the location of the rock. If dredging goes to 12' (a $25, 000 geotechnical investigation) . There are two elements: The outer channel modification is to widen and deepen this channel by dredging to 9' . However, the wider the channel the bigger the sand/sediment catch/erosion. Outer channel concept is okay. Littoral transports may need to be adjusted. Inner channel has two problems: Marinas say channel is being designed for 3 ' boats (see table on p. 124 of Mgmt. Plan) . These numbers are not final. The areas of concerns are squat, allowable overdredge and advanced maintenance. Dorothea Zysko: Advanced maintenance which is overdredging seems questionable. Allowable overdredge is error allowance. [There is no error, should be standard allowance, per Jerry Neal phone 12/14/94] . Pelican Isle Yacht Club/Westinghouse want 5' draft as a safety factor. County taxpayers would receive the burden. Mike Taranto read from page 128 . If they adopt this plan, how deep do we have to dredge to accommodate 3 '? Derek: Interior channel has never been dredged. Can get a copy of Army Corps standards Inlet Management Plan/Navigation and Public Safety. Dorothea: There are no design depth policies, so Bill Lorenz will have staff research design standards and list Coastal Zone Management Policies. Dave Addison: We need clarification of Water Turkey Bay. Recommendation made to have Jerry Neal attend December 12 meeting. Send recommendations made at that meeting to BCC with copy to Jerry. NRPA Clam Bay - Meeting set for 12/8/94; send Clam Bay Management Plan draft to EPTAB members who are not on the NRPA sub-committee. Growth Management Plan - Derek: Based on meeting of 10/24/94, GMP sub-committee made many recommendations. Virginia Corkran: Data on which analysis was made. Data gathering needs to start. Dorothea: Tracking wetlands destruction versus success of mitigation. Dorothea: Frank Meeker has been scheduled to speak at January's meeting and Valerie Boyd will speak in February. Potential topics to be addressed may include Virginia Corkran's suggestion: Big Cypress Watershed. Motion made and meeting adjourned at 5: 40p.m.