EPTAB Minutes 05/09/1994 DRAFT: May 12 , 1994
APPROVED:
ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY TECHNICAL ADVISORY BOARD
MINUTES OF May 9, 1994
PRESENT: Gary Beardsley Nancy Payton Christopher Hagan
Robert Duane Dorothea Zysko Steve Means
Derek Hodgin
NOTIFIED: Dave Addison
ABSENCE
STAFF: Bill Lorenz Fred Reischl Barbara Burgeson
Kimberly Polen David Weigel Steve Lenberger
Barbara Cacchione
Meeting commenced at 4 : 10 and roll was called. Dorothea Zysko
chaired the meeting.
The amended minutes from the April 25, 1994 meeting were approved
with the following amendments:
1) Dave Addison should be added as an absent member;
2) Steve Means' name should be deleted from absent and placed
under notified;
3) Item III . 1. should state that the North Golden Gate Estates
(NGGE) Subcommittee shall be officially referred to as the
NGGE Ad Hoc Committee; and
4) Item IV. 5.Paragraph 2 should read. . .copies of the new project
plan flow chart. . . .
An 'Announcement' section should be added to the agenda after the
Approval of Minutes section.
Any ad hoc committee status reports should be placed first under
the Old Business section.
Due to the fact that Barbara Cacchione must leave at 5: 00p.m. ,
her Item (IV.h. ) will be heard after Elections under the Old
Business section.
Dorothea Zysko was nominated and elected as Chairman and Derek
Hodgin was nominated and elected as Co-Chairman.
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Barabara Cacchione made a presentation on clustering. She
mentioned that it would be difficult for Staff to tell DCA how an
amendment to the Future Land Use Element, pertaining to
clustering, would affect an area(s) density(s) /intensity(s) when
an area has not even been mapped.
Bob Duane suggested that a NRPA should be incoporated into
development criteria (LDC) , if applicable, and not be required to
be mapped on the Future Land Use Map.
Gary Beardsley commented by stating that Bob is comming from a
planning perspective and that the GMP has been adopted by the
County to include both NRPA and HPO. He also said that EPTAB can
recommend to the BCC to adhere to the GMP.
Bob made a motion to direct Staff to remove Policy 1. 3 . 1.a of the
CCME and re-word the requirement to place the NRPA(s) on the
Future Land Use Map after the NRPA(s) is adopted into the LDC.
[Each NRPA would be placed on the Future Land Use Map in
conjunction with the Evaluation and Appraisal Report (EAR) ] .
Also to direct Staff to create general language to amend the
Future Land Use Element to provide for clustering which will be
defined in each NRPA(s) . The motion was seconded.
During the discussion several members mentioned that they were
concerned about the timeliness especially when it comes to
dealing with the State. Barbara responded by explaining it is
more difficult to remove or change the GMP than it is to change
the LDC. She also mentioned that the importance of a Land Use
Map is to visualize the area(s) . Dorothea called for a vote to
the motion, which was approved 6 to 1 (Gary dissented) .
Barbara Burgeson gave a report on the status of the GMP Goals,
Objectives and Policies that have been met and those that have
not been met. She explained that the latest compiled information
available is dated 1992 .
Steve Means said he wanted to know from Barbara which specific
GMP Goals, Objectives and Policies she felt were lacking in the
LDC.
Barbara responded by stating that without thoroughly reviewing
the GMP she could only mention some of the policies she was most
familiar with; for example, the native habitat protection
requirements and the listed species management guidelines.
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Steve told the members that on May 4th the EAB directed Staff to
notify the BCC and advise the commissioners to adopt listed
species management guidelines.
Gary believes there are some commonalities that do exist amoung
the various projects' management guidelines for the various
listed species, which could become County guidelines.
Several EPTAB members discussed the fact that the agencies
(FGFWFC/USFWS) approve and/or permit listed species management
guidelines on a site specific basis, so how does one expect the
County to adopt specific listed species management guidelines
that will apply to every site?
Barbara mentioned that Staff only requests technical assistance
from the agencies for projects that have documented evidence of
listed species and/or which physical evidence of listed species
habitat is observed.
Staff passed out David Maehr's resignation and a flow chart for
the NRPA Establishment, Approval and Implementation.
The letter drafted by Derek Hodgin regarding the Inlet Management
Plan Review was approved by the board and forwarded to the BCC
chairman.
Staff and Gary gave a brief status report of the North Golden
Gate Estates ad hoc committee.
Since there was not a quorum available, the remaining items under
the Old Business section will be discussed during the next EPTAB
meeting.
Bob noted that Dave Addison has been absent several times. Other
members mentioned Dave has not been present because his mother
has been very ill. Dorothea said she would call him regarding
his absences.
The meeting was adjourned at 5 : 45p.m.
ACTION ITEM: Staff is to direct Staff to remove Policy 1. 3 . 1.a of
the CCME and re-word the requirement to place the NRPA(s) on the
Future Land Use Map after the NRPA(s) is adopted into the LDC.
Also to direct Staff to create general language to amend the
Future Land Use Element to provide for clustering which will be
defined in each NRPA(s) . [Both directives are to be included in
an Executive Summary that is to be presented to the BCC] .
`a DRAFT: 25, 1994
fta6h APPROVED:
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fr''°;? ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY TECHNICAL ADVISORY BOARD
MINUTES OF April 25, 1994
PRESENT: Christopher Hagan Gary Beardsley Nancy Payton
Derek Hodgin Robert Duane Dorothea Zysko
Mike Davis
NOTIFIED: David Maehr
ABSENT: Steve Means
STAFF: Bill Lorenz Dick Hartwell David Weigel
PUBLIC: None
I. Meeting called to order.
II. Roll was called by Dorothea Zysko who chaired the meeting.
III. Approval of minutes.
1. Minutes from the April 11, 1994 meeting were approved as
amended. Gary Beardsley asked that the minutes be amended
to substitute the word 'subcommittee' to ad hoc committee.
Derek Hodgin did not receive his copy of the minutes again.
Staff will check his address on the EPTAB mailing lists.
2 . Announcements: Mike Davis resigned from EPTAB. Bill
Lorenz announced that David Land also resigned.
3 . A brief discussion followed about EPTAB replacements.
Bill Lorenz stated that replacements are handled at the
Board office. Gary Beardsley suggested that a new
chairperson be elected at the May 9, 1994 EPTAB meeting.
IV. Old Business.
1. Robert Duane gave a brief presentation on the April 12 ,
1994 BCC meeting about "clustering" .
2 . Gary Beardsley requested that Dave Maehr needs time away
from EPTAB to attend grad school. His replacement will be a
topic of discussion at the next EPTAB meeting.
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3 . Chris Hagan gave a brief presentation on the NGGE Ad Hoc
Committee meeting and Kimberly Polen's memorandum. The next
ad hoc meeting will be held on May 6, 1994 , 7 : 30 a.m. , at
the same place.
4 . LDC shortcomings: Barbara Burgeson is still unavailable
to meet with EPTAB. EPTAB requested Bill Lorenz to contact
Dick Clark and request that she attend the next EPTAB
meeting.
5. Revisit NRPAs (priority list) .
Bill Lorenz stated that Board gave direction to staff only
for Clam Bay. Clam Bay would only become a NRPA when a
management plan would be completed and presented to EPTAB
for review and then to the BCC.
Gary Beardsley requested that copies of the project plan
flow chart be given to EPTAB members. Bill Lorenz stated
that EPTAB would come back to the Board for authorization on
a new NRPA. However, Bill Lorenz stated that Tim
Constantine said that he did not want staff working on any
NRPAs without the Board's approval. Bill Lorenz suggested
that EPTAB could write a letter to the Board about starting
a new NRPA. The priority list will be discussed at the next
EPTAB meeting.
6. Inlet Management Plan: Derek Hodgin gave a presentation
on who is involved in putting together an Inlet Management
Plan. Gary Beardsley would like EPTAB to review at least
one Inlet Plan and then decide if they need to review others
when they become available. Bill Lorenz explained that the
Beach Renourishment Committee controls the Inlet Management
Plans and Maura Kraus represents staff in attending their
meetings.
Gary Beardsley gave a motion to have EPTAB review one plan.
Derek Hodgin will write a letter to the Board's chairman
asking Capital Projects to present a Inlet Management Plan
to EPTAB. David Weigel, County Attorney, suggested that
EPTAB address this request in a BCC public meeting. Gary
Beardsley's motion was amended to send a letter to the Board
with justification for wanting to review the Inlet
Management Plan. Motion passed.
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V. New Business
Gary Beardsley requested that EPTAB see the NRPA program
budget for FY 94/95. Bill Lorenz said he would give EPTAB
the program package for the budget.
Robert Duane requested that generic language is needed in
the LDC addressing the clustering issue. Mr. Duane said
that he would help Barbara Cacchione by drafting this
language in order to get this into the current cycle.
Gary Beardsley requested that EPTAB be involved with the
process concerning the updating of the Growth Management
Plan.
Bill Lorenz will ask Barbara Cacchione to make a
presentation to EPTAB involving the ELM III Act.
VI. Adjournment: This meeting was adjourned at the end of
discussions.
ACTION ITEM:
Bill Lorenz to give EPTAB program package for budget.
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