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EPTAB Minutes 08/16/1993 DRAFT: 8/23/93 APPROVED: ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY TECHNICAL ADVISORY BOARD MINUTES OF AUGUST 16, 1993 Present: David Maehr David Addison David Land Gary Beardsley Larry Richardson Steve Means Nancy Payton Staff: Bill Lorenz Martha Howell Kimberly Polen Fran Stallings Mac Hatcher Maura Kraus Dick Hartwell Public: Stewart Swanson Emma Ross Tony Pelizos Chris Straton Barbara Cawley I. Meeting called to order II. Roll call III.Approval of Minutes: The minutes of the August 2 , 1993 were not approved due to a discrepancy on page two, number five, which requires further clarification. Nancy Payton mentioned she believes that an actual percentage for wetlands was not part of the motion made by Steve Means. Gary Beardsley mentioned he thought there were not any wetlands included in the motion. In order to resolve the discrepancy, Steve Means motioned that staff go back and listen to the applicable portion of the tape recordings from the August 2nd EPTAB meeting and report their findings back to EPTAB during the next meeting. IV. Old Business 1. Dave Maehr mentioned that he met with Chairman Burt Saunders. He asked if any board member could reiterate the status of the HPO proposal. After a lengthy discussion by various board members, staff mentioned they would be willing to forward any questions or comments to the appropriate staff member(s) . Gary Beardsley said the memo written on July 13th was discussed and voted on during the last meeting, now we should address the 8/11/93 memo. Gary then asked a question pertaining to the 8/11/93 memo. He asked when one adds up all acreages where's the remaining acreages to create a total acreage for the county. Steve Means mentioned that all percentages should have been identified. Other members explained only the acreages for rare and unique habitat were listed because they were the figures the board requested from staff during the last meeting. David Land asked what has been protected and preserved. Various board members discussed the issues. 2 . Dave Maehr summarized his meeting with Chairman Burt Saunders and made the following suggestions, comments and considerations: first, an idea to produce a quarterly report which would be easy to read, short and brief, and it should include bullets; secondly, Chairman Burt Saunders suggested that EPTAB members attend the BCC public hearings; and thirdly, EBTAB has multiple responsibilities to communicate which includes visiting every BCC member to update them on EPTAB's accomplishments. Larry Richardson commented by stating he thought it was important to inform the BCC members. Steve Means suggested that EPTAB produce a business plan. Dave Maehr responded by stating EPTAB had created a plan which included the identification of natural areas and systems. Bill Lorenz mentioned that he was going to request a September 20th board date at which Natural Resources staff will present their NRPA strategy plan to the BCC for their review. He also said after the concepts are brought before the BCC on September 20th they then can be incorporated into an actual NRPA workshop. Gary Beardsley suggested that only the past accomplishments be forwarded to the commissioners at this time. David Land commented by stating that the administrative work should be done by Dave Maehr and Bill Lorenz . Dave Maehr responded by stating that he would be willing to do the work. Bill Lorenz said the information could be used at the workshop. Dave Maher offered to provide an introduction into the workshop. Gary suggested that an outline/overlay be developed which explains/demonstrates what has been protected and what needs protection. ACTION ITEM(s) : Dave Maehr is going to bullet past accomplishments of EPTAB. Bill Lorenz would like to have all comments/recommendations forwarded to Fran Stallings regarding the Future Land Use Plan memo and it's possible incorporation into the NRPA program workshop. 3 . Bill Lorenz mentioned that when we come before the BCC we have to explain the HPO/NRPA intergration (i.e. mitigation banking) . Steve Means reiterated the value of mitigation banking as it pertains to hydrological improvements of lands within the South Golden Gate Estates. Gary Beardsley commented within the HPO there should possibility be a land for land off-site mitigation concept. Bill Lorenz stated that each NRPA would have applicable and appropriate mitigation banking guidelines. Steve Means said he does not agree that a client can only choose from selected NRPA areas for off-site mitigation areas. David Land responded by stating that we should target specific area(s) for possible off-site mitigation so we can get the most "bang for the buck", by providing protection over the largest, contiguous and most ecologically sensitive lands. Steve Means mentioned that mitigation banking will be driven by money; therefore, options of off-site mitigation areas should be available not just specific area (s) . David Land commented by stating there will always be a down side and an up side of a designation (economic exchanges) . Bill Lorenz asked what does EPTAB want to recommend. David Land mentioned that Frans memo discusses the importance of fragmentation. Larry Richardson commented by stating both concepts of on-site/off-site should be considered. ACTION ITEM: Dave Maehr suggests that every board member take a look at Fran Stallings's memo. 4 . David Land mentioned that Hillsborough County identified their critical and important habitats by considering remaining size(s) then they developed siting criteria. Bill Lorenz stated that EPTAB could introduce smaller NRPAs. Gary Beardsley said that the Growth Management Plan focuses on a watershed management program inventory basis. Bill Lorenz mentioned that smaller areas can be maintained as a NRPA and asked EPTAB what off-site systems do they want to focus on preserving. Dave Maehr commented by stating that you need to set up one area to reduce complications. Bill Lorenz mentioned xeric habitat could be a possible smaller NRPA. V. Public Comments: 1. Barbara Cawley commented by stating uplands don't seem to be represented on possible NRPA list. David Land responded by stating NRPAs can be used for various off-site mitigation. Babara Cawley suggested that we find out who the landowners are and obtain permission from them to map out upland areas. Dave Maehr said if the areas are not identified it does not mean other agencies would not provide protection measures. Bill Lorenz suggested to eliminate mitigation details within the HPO and provide the details within each NRPA. Barbara Cawley commented regarding the Camp Keis case example by mentioning it needs to clarify the rezoning section of the Future Land Use Element. David Land suggested that EPTAB create a subcommittee to meet to discuss incorporating some possible changes. Bill Lorenz reminded everyone that the Camp Keis case example is only considered a model. Dave Maehr commented by stating that it should be concise. David Land said it still needs some editorializing. Bill Lorenz said he agreed and that staff would be providing an updated copy to each member, which will incorporate any proposed changes, prior to the next meeting. 2 . Chris Straton asked if staff would note all substantiated changes to any updated drafts by utilizing strike throughs, underlines and footnotes, so everyone knows what changes were incorporated. She also encouraged EPTAB to interact with the workshop presentation. 3 . Steve Means asked the chairman before Barbara Cawley leaves, I'm not sure we've resolved the issue about what to do with Barbara's memo, I think anyone from the public that takes time to write a memo deserves a response whether it be written or discussed during the meeting. Dave Maehr said that EPTAB could spend time reviewing the concepts. Nancy Payton asked Barbara Cawley if she was satisfied with EPTAB's responses. Barbara Cawley responded by saying yes. She also indicated it was not necessary to discuss her memo during the next meeting. VI. New Business: 1. Dave Maehr said he would like to discuss from the last meeting if we are anywhere close to providing input on the new EPTAB member positions or do we want to provide input. David Land suggested the available positions should have the broadest range of environmental experience. He said by having a matrix of strong skills we want on the board and which ones are missing, we should try to find applicants to fill the missing skills. He also stated that strength of the group depends on the diversity. Bill Lorenz mentioned that staff had submitted to Sue Filson, County Manager's Administrative Assistant, a matrix and executive summary submittal to be scheduled. He said he believes it will probably be heard not this week but next week. He also stated staff could send a memo to EPTAB keeping everyone informed. Nancy Payton asked who are the three individuals whose positions are going to expire. Dave Maehr responded by stating Tony Pires, Mike Davis, and Steve Means. VII. Meeting Adjourned: Larry Richardson motioned that EPTAB adjourn. Nancy Payton and Gary Beardsley made a second. Dave Maehr asked all those members in favor say aye. The response was unanimous. ACTION ITEM(s) : Dave Maehr is going to bullet past accomplishments of EPTAB. Bill Lorenz would like to have all comments/recommendations forwarded to Fran Stallings regarding the Future Land Use Plan memo and it's possible incorporation into the NRPA program workshop. Dave Maehr suggests that every board member take a look at Fran Stallings's memo.