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January 10, 2005
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER
COUNTY PUBLIC VEHICLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, January 10,2005
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Public Vehic1e
Advisory Committee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted
business herein, met on this date at 9:30 AM in REGULAR SESSION at the
Collier County Community Development Services Building, 2800 N.
Horseshoe Drive, Conference Room #609, Naples, Florida, with the
following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Allen Walburn
Michael Mendel
Randall Smith
Tony Marino
Russ Berghuis
Richard Pickett (Alternate)
ALSO PRESENT: Janet Powers, Operations Manager/Code Enforcement
John Marsh, Code Enforcement Investigator
Tom Palmer, Assistant County Attorney
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AGENDA
COLLIER COUNTY PUBLIC VEHICLE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
January 10, 2005 9:30 AM
Collier County Community Development Services Building
2800 N. Horseshoe Naples, FL 34104
Conference Room #609
ANY PERSON WHO DECIDES TO APPEAL A DECISION OF THIS BOARD WILL NEED A RECORD
OF THE PROCEEDINGS PERTAINING THERETO, AND THEREFORE MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT A
VERBATIM RECORD OF THE PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THAT
TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED.
PLEASE ENSURE ALL PAGERS AND CELL PHONES ARE OFF OR IN A QUIET POSITION.
Regular Meeting
I. Call Meeting to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Approval of Agenda
IV. Approval of Minutes: December 6, 2004
V. Notices
VI. New Business: New Applications: NAV-LLC Medical Transportation
Owner: Elias Kythreotis Of Naples Fl.
VII. Hearing
VIII. Old Business:
IX. Complaint Report
X. Discussion:
XI. Announcements
XII. Next Scheduled Meeting Date:
January 10, 2005
I. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Allen Walburn at 9:30
AM.
II. Roll Call was taken with a quorum established.
III. Approval of Agenda:
Russ Berghuis moved to approve the Agenda as submitted. Second by
Tony Marino. Carried unanimously 5-0.
IV. Approval of Minutes: December 6, 2004
Mr. Mendel wanted a clarification of "x. Discussion Item" concerning a
charter vehicle not being a taxi and the statement of using a flat rate vs. meter
run rate. He was concerned about a future problem. A lengthy discussion was
held concerning the flat rates, run rates and charter vehicles vs. Taxi's.
Mr. Berghuis moved to approve the Minutes of December 6, 2004.
Second by Mr. Mendel. Carried unanimously 5-0.
V. Notices: None
VI. New Business: New Applications: NA V-LLC Medical Transportation
Owner: Elias Kythreotis of Naples, FL
Ms. Powers mentioned the Binder was submitted and not the actual
Insurance Policy.
Mr. Walburn stated the applicant is complying with the Statutes.
Mr. Mendel questioned the regulation of being a Medical Transportation
Vehicle.
Mr. Palmer responded there would be a paper trail to account for the income
derived from being a Medical Transportation Vehicle or a Taxi or Limo.
There is an Ordinance that protects this type of business.
Mr. Pickett had been in the medical field in the past and stated the billing
through the Insurance companies is filed and regulated by the State for
Medicare and Medicaid.
If there is fraud or a violation and is reported, it will be investigated.
Richard Pickett moved to approve the application NA V-LLC Medical
Transportation for Elias Kythreotis pending the Insurance and with the
stipulation of adding that it is a "Non-Emergency" Vehicle - on the
vehicle. (The Ordinance states proper wording) Second Mr. Smith.
Carried unanimously 5-0.
VII. Hearing: None
VIII. Old Business: Mr. Fizz Papps - Dolphin Transportation Specialist
brought up the subject previously discussed concerning a Charter Vehicle and
a Taxi and the "flat rate" versus the "run meter" rate. It was decided if there is
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a violation, it is an enforcement problem. This may be an educational issue or
a Code Enforcement issue. Perhaps the Ordinance needs to be amended to be
more conCIse.
Mr. Palmer stated it would be a substantial change in the policy or a policy
decision. They discussed a difference in the rate charged and the rate in the
Ordinance. In the Ordinance there should be no case where a quoted Limo
rate competes with a Taxi Cab rate. (They should be higher) If that isn't the
case there is something wrong with the rate schedule.
Mr. Smith moved to have the discussion of a more clear definition
between a Taxi and a Town Car and the distinction of rates (metered and
flat) put on the Agenda for the February meeting. There also may be a
letter submitted to the Board of County Commissioners.
Second by Tony Marino. Carried unanimously 5-0.
IX. Complaint Report: John Marsh - Code Enforcement
Mr. Marsh handed out his report. (Attached)
32 Cases - 18 Closed - 13 Open
He distributed a list of all the Companies.
X. Discussion: None
XI. Announcements: Richard Pickett and Allen Walburn gave their address
changes to Ms. Powers.
XII. Next Scheduled Meeting Date: February 7, 2005
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by order ofthe Chair at 10:20 AM.
COLLIER COUNTY PUBLIC ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Chairman Allen Walburn
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