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CAC Minutes 12/09/2004 R December 9, 2004 TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE Naples, Florida, December 9,2004 LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Coastal Advisory Committee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at I :00 PM in REGULAR SESSION in Building "F of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following members present: CHAIRMAN: Ron Pennington John Arceri Murray Hendel Graham Ginsberg (Excused) Heidi Kulpa Tony Pires James Snediker John Sorey III Paul Sullivan ALSO PRESENT: Ron Hovell, Utility Engineering Dept. Mark Isackson, Budget Office Maria Bernal, Tourism Dr. John Staiger, City of Naples Maura Krause, Environmental Service Dept. 1 --.--.- .. , \ ,\. . >.. \ .".".:.....-" " <\ ~ " .' . " . ..4..>..~·:·_·_·,'"..;':.._'..,'··';·;:1 :~ \ "---- ~ ,~.~ ,~~~, '< ,-~.-:\, MEETING AGENDA & NOTICE COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE THURSDAY, DECEMBER 9, 2004 -1:00 P.M. . W. Harmon Turner Building (Administration Building F), Collier County Government Center, 3301 E. Tamiami Trail, Naples) . I. CALL TO ORDER II. ROLL CALL III. CHANGES AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA IV. PUBLIC COMMENTS V. APPROVAL OF CAC MINUTES 1. November 10, 2004 Minutes VI. STAFF REPORTS VII. NEW BUSINESS 1. Funding of Inlet Management 2. TDC Category "A" Grant Application for Doctors Pass Maintenance Dredging (Deferred until January 13, 2005) VIII. OLD BUSINESS 1. TDC Category"A" 10-Year Funding Projections Update 2. County/City of Naples Beach Renourishment Update 3. Hideaway Beach Structures Construction Contract a. FDEP Transmittal Letter b. Intent To Issue c. Draft Permit d. Public Notice e. Bid Document 4. Marco Island Laser Grading Update 5. Marco South Beach RenourishmentlCaxambas Pass Dredging Update 6. Wiggins Pass Dredging Construction Contract IX. PUBLIC COMMENTS X. ANNOUNCEMENTS XI. COMMITTEE MEMBER DISCUSSION XII. NEXT MEETING DATE/LOCATION 1. January 13, 2005 - 1 :00 p.m. - Board of County Commissioners Board Room XIII. ADJOURNMENT --~--_._- December 9,2004 I. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Ron Pennington at 1:00 PM. II. Roll Call Roll call was taken with Mr. Ginsberg being excused and Mr. Pires absent. III. Changes and Approval of Agenda Mr. Arceri moved to approve the agenda as presented. Seconded by Mr. Sorey. Carried Unanimously 7-0. IV. Public Comments - None V. Approval of Minutes 1. November 10, 2004 Minutes Page 3 - Mr. Arceri mentioned the City Council of Marco has "not" discussed the Boardwalk issue. Mr. Sorey moved to approve the minutes of November 10, 2004 as amended. Seconded by Mr. Arceri. Carried Unanimously 7-0. VI. Staff Reports - none VII. New Business: 1. Funding of Inlet Management - Ron Pennington Has been some question of the appropriateness of TDC Funds for Inlet Management. (Summary attached) This will be discussed at the TDC/BCC Joint Workshop on Friday, December 17th. A recommendation will be made to them for establishing parameters for pass maintenance funding. Mr. Hendel moved the Chairman appoint a Committee to pursue the matter and make final recommendations with regard to the five passes discussed in Mr. Pennington's memorandum. Mr. Pennington suggested before any action is taken they wait until after the Workshop on the 17th. Mr. Hendel withdrew his motion. The Committee appreciated and agreed with the "Historical Perspective and Recommendations" concerning the funding of inlet maintenance in Collier County that Mr. Pennington put together and furnished for them. (Mr. Pires arrived at 1 :28 PM.) Dr. Staiger stated the Sub-Committee will need to look at the inlet management plans and get a definition of what areas need to be dredged and which ones not. 2 December 9,2004 Mr. Sorey moved to add the Funding Amendment Maintenance Document to the Agenda. Seconded by Mr. Arceri. Carried unanimously 8-0. Mr. Sorey moved CAC endorse Mr. Pennington's efforts when he appears before the joint TDC/BCC Workshop on December 17th. Seconded by Mr. Sullivan. Carried unanimously 8-0. 2. TDC Category" A" Grant Application for Doctors Pass Maintenance Dredging (Deferred until January 13, 2005) VIII. Old Business 1. TDC Category "A" 10-Year Funding Projections Update - Ron Hovell · Met with Mr. Hendel & Mark Isackson from Budget Office and went over the Budget format. · Changes were suggested and was reformatted · Covered and explained various line items along with TDC Category "A" projections. · Discussed the "Misc. Interest" hoping to convince the TDC and BCC to have the interest follow the principle collected. The interest now is incorporated into the General Budget in which they utilize for other expenditures. Mark Isackson - Office of Management and Budget - stated in one of their previous meetings there was a request for what that dollar value is. He will get that figure for them. After meeting with Mr. Hovell and Mr. Isackson, Mr. Hendel has a better understanding of the "10 year" projections, the legal requirements, reserves and rules for renourishment. Vanderbilt Garage, bonding, capital projects, financing and addressing shortfalls was discussed. Will plan to put the Budget together with prioritizing and evaluating details in the "10 Year Plan" in January and in February along with reviewing Grant Applications for 2006 and look at projections. 2. County/City of Naples Beach Renourishment Update Mr. Pennington gave a summary of the conference call with Representative Goodlette, Mike Joiner-DEP, Mike Barnett-Chief of Bureau of Coastal Systems, Stacy Roberts-Permitting section, Becky Roland-Project Manager, Tom Campbell of Coastal Planning, Steve Keene-Senior Coastal Engineer, Ron Hovell and himself. Some areas of concerns were discussed. 3 December 9,2004 · Technical concerns · Dollar amounts for mitigation and monitoring they're requiring for Artificial reef · Draft will be a basis for negotiation. · Reduce biological requirements · DEP rejected and did not agree to the method used by Coastal Planning & Engineering. · Acreage was in dispute. (10 acres is now 1.09 acres) · Consultant feels they have gotten the best they are going to get. 3. Hideaway Beach Structures Construction Contract a. FDEP Transmittal Letter b. Intent to Issue c. Draft Permit d. Public Notice e. Bid Document Summary of the above: · Award to low bidder - $2, 140,880(Marine Contracting Group, Inc.) · Possible bid protest from second to low bidder · Could delay the process · TDC recommended awarding this Contract on November 22nd. · DEP indicated to Mr. Hovell they expected to receive a possible petition from Mr. Ginsberg or a group he belongs to. If so, it could delay the issuance of the permits. · Bid protest and following Purchasing procedures was discussed. (Responsive, responsible and qualified bidder are the qualifications for low bidder) Mr. Arceri moved to recommend approval of $2,140,880 to Marine Contracting Group for this project. Seconded by Mr. Snediker. There was discussion on who Marine Contracting is and the qualifications of a bidder. Carried unanimously 8-0. Mr. Hovell informed the members there was a meeting of the Taxing District and the possible protest was going to be on the Agenda with the second low bidder being at that meeting. BREAK - 2:50 PM RECONVENED - 2:59 PM (Mr. Pires did not return at this time) 4. Marco Island Laser Grading Update - Ron Hovell Project started Monday and is going good. Hope to finish up before Christmas 4 December 9,2004 5. Marco South Beach Renourishment/Caxambas Pass Dredging Update - Ron Hovell Taylor Engineering proposed an additional $36,610 that was recommended for approval by the CAC ad TDC. The BCC will review it on December 14th. 6. Wiggins Pass Dredging Construction Contract - Ron Hoven Mr. Hoven explained limiting the depth to 8.5' for the first 300 feet and then transitioning to 13 feet. Bids were opened on November 30th. Staff recommends awarding the contract to Snyder Industries, Inc. in the amount of$380,000. Mr. Pennington questioned the qualifications of the low bidder, Snyder Industries. Mr. Pennington moved to recommend approval of the next lowest bidder which is Michigan Contractors, of whom they have had a lot of experience with. Without a second the motion was not considered. Mr. Arceri supported what he was saying but again, they discussed responsible, responsive, qualified bidders. Dr. Staiger talked about the equipment such as the different size dredges. (Mr. Pires 3:10 PM) Mr. Pires reiterated and responded to the question of awarding the Contract to the lowest responsive, responsible bidder. He discussed the equipment issue and stated they have done their job. With the detail staff has provided, they feel the lowest responsible responsive, bidder is Lake Michigan Contractors. Mr. Hovell answered a question in which they asked if Snyder Industries is a responsible bidder. Purchasing leaves that up to the Department administering the Contract. He checked references and mentioned it would be delayed if they did not go with the low bidder as it would be protested. If they take the low bidder and they fail to perform, the project is still delayed. There is a certain amount of risk. A lengthy discussion followed on the experience of low bidders, taking risks of delaying projects and having justification of not awarding to low bidders. Lyn Wood - Purchasing - if awarding to the second bidder, the low bidder will probably protest. If they file an intent protest, then they pull the award off the Agenda and the bidder can then file a formal protest 5 December 9,2004 within so many days. The Director of Purchasing, Steve Carnell would then look at the protest, investigate and respond. Purchasing doesn't choose the awardees; the project managers investigate qualified bidders and gives purchasing the facts and back-up. Mr. Pires moved to support staff recommendation and recommend to the Board of County Commissioners to award the Contract to Snyder Industries. Seconded by Mr. Sorey. Carried unanimously 8-0. Ms. Wood reported Naples Dock is contending Marine Contracting was not properly licensed in Collier County. Has to be proof of appropriate insurance - Marine Contractors License -longshoreman's, harbor workers and maritime insurance. Details will be looked into. Cannot contract with them if they do not have the required Insurance. Marine Contracting states they have the appropriate insurance. She continued discussing the process they follow. SPEAKER John Findley - stated Wiggins Pass is a safety factor. Did not feel it should be delayed any longer. Personally felt the County has liability issues on safety and maintaining the Pass. He felt they made the right decision. If the low bidder doesn't perform, another company can be brought in. IX. Public Comments - None X. Announcements - None XI. Committee Member Discussion Ms. Kulpa took a beach tour with Al Madsen which was very educational and interesting. Mr. Snediker thanked Dr. Staiger and wished him luck on his retirement. Mr. Pires asked that the subject brought up at the November meeting of the Boardwalk from Tigertail Beach to Sand Dollar Island be put on the January Agenda. Mr. Arceri agreed. Policy expenditures and Category "A" funding was mentioned by Mr. Pennington. (Mr. Hendel left at 3 :43 PM) Mr. Arceri had concerns of the behavior of sitting members on the Committee. He did not feel the Committee should be used for political or lobbying purposes. He mentioned being misquoted and being corrected publicly by Mr. Ginsberg. He questioned standards of behavior by Committee members. He did not feel it a good policy to have members criticize, be 6 December 9,2004 disrespectful and unprofessional. He would like to have a discussion of the Ordinance. Mr. Pires talked about the BCC having a general Ordinance dealing with Advisory Committee Members and serving at the pleasure of the County Commissioners. Personal letters written and signed as a CAC member, discussion and debates at the meetings was discussed. Mr. Pennington had a concern that Mr. Ginsberg may file a protest against the Hideaway issue, and if so, would be dealt with in a different light. Would like Heidi Ashton, County Attorney, consult with them on the matter at the January meeting. Mr. Hovell announced the Public Hearing for the Erosion Control Hearing for the extension of the Erosion Control Lines related to the major renourishment project will be held on March 10,2005 at 5:00 PM & 6:00 PM. XII. Next Meeting Date/Location 1. January 13, 2005 - 1 :00 PM - Board of County Commissioners Board Room There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting adjourned by order of the Chair at 3:56 PM. ***** COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE Mr. Ron Pennington, Chairman 7