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CAC Minutes 11/10/2004 R November 10,2004 TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE Naples, Florida, November 10,2004 LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Coastal Advisory Committee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on this date at 1 :30 PM in REGULAR SESSION in Building "F of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following members present: CHAIRMAN: Ron Pennington John Arceri Murray Hendel Graham Ginsberg Heidi Kulpa (Absent) Tony Pires (Excused) James Snediker John Sorey III Paul Sullivan ALSO PRESENT: Maria Bernal - Tourism Ron Hovell - Utility Engineering Dept. Heidi Ashton - Assistant County Attorney Dr. John Staiger - City of Naples 1 NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING COAST AL ADVISORY COMMITTEE COLLIER COUNTY, FLORIDA WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 2004 1 :30 p.m. I. CALL TO ORDER II. ROLL CALL III. CHANGES AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA IV. PUBLIC COMMENTS V. APPROVAL OF CAC MINUTES 1. Approval of minutes of October 14, 2004 VI. STAFF REPORTS VII. NEW BUSINESS VIII. OLD BUSINESS 1. County/City of Naples Beach Renourishment Update 2. South Marco Beach Renourishment/Caxambas Pass Dredging Update 3. Hideaway Beach Renourishment Update 4. Wiggins Pass Dredging Update 5. Marco Island Laser Grading Update 6. Doctors Pass site visit by NOAA Representatives 7. Resolution adopting procedures for transaction of CAC business IX. PUBLIC COMMENTS X. ANNOUNCEMENTS XI. COMMITTEE MEMBER DISCUSSION XII. NEXT MEETING DATE/LOCATION 1. December 9, 2004 - 1 :00 p.m. - BCC Board Room XIII. ADJOURNMENT '------r November 10, 2004 I. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Ron Pennington at 1:30 PM. II. Roll Call: Roll Call was taken with Heidi Kulpa being absent and Mr. Pires excused. A quorum was established. III. Changes and Approval of Agenda Mr. Arceri moved to accept the Agenda as presented. Second by Mr. Sullivan. The Budget Workshop will be re-scheduled. Under "Committee Member Discussion" Mr. Pennington will give an update on County Coastal Systems Management. Motion carried unanimously 7-0. IV. Public Comments SPEAKERS Dwight Brock - Clerk of Circuit Court of Collier County - addressed minutes done through a contract with Manpower. In an attempt to accommodate everyone's wishes the minutes have been modified. Minutes have almost become verbatim and have tried to decipher what is important and what is not. The minute taker has run into a cumbersome problem in taking the minutes, and sometimes errors are made. He was amazed they were done as well as they have been as it is difficult with the normal conversation and specialized terminology being spoken. Two ways of taking minutes: Verbatim and abbreviated transcript. He gave the Committee an alternative of having minutes with action items (abbreviated) which is customarily used in advisory board meetings, or verbatim transcript in which they would have to agree to pay for. They have tapes and recordings of the meetings in which anyone can acquire if they so desire. The Committee needs to make the decision. In polling the Committee it was a consensus they use abbreviated minutes and conveyed that to the Clerk. Mr. Brock asked them to work with the minute taker in developing a format that meets their needs and will not be a conversation of what is said by any Committee member. Regina Riley - Marco Island - asked the Committee to consider putting the item of the bridge boardwalk from Tigertail Beach to Sand Dollar Island on a 2 November 10,2004 future Agenda. She did not want the County to destroy the area with a bridge, nor the people of Marco Island worrying about endangering the natural beach. **It was noted this is a Parks & Recreation project and not a concern of the Coastal Advisory Committee. Taylor Engineering has been hired to look at options. It was decided it would not be an item for their Agenda. The Board of County Commissioners approved $200,000 $40,000 has been committed for Engineering Services $10,000 actually been spent. Charlotte Roman - President for Friends of Tigertail- resident of Marco Island - had impression decisions have already been made on the Boardwalk. In a meeting she attended there were generalities given but no data shared in defining any problems. Mr. Arceri mentioned the City of Marco never supported the Boardwalk. They have discussed the issue and he wants to make sure the City would get involved and look at all sides. V. Approval of CAC Minutes A. Approval of Minutes of October 14, 2004 - Page 12 - Mr. Arceri was appointed to the Sub-Committee rather than Mr. Sorey. Mr. Arceri moved to approve the minutes of October 14, 2004. - Mr. Ginsberg wanted to attach a written statement to clarify changes of what he said at the last meeting in the minutes. Mr. Ginsberg moved to add a written statement of what he accurately said at the last meeting. Without a second the motion was not considered. - Page 5 - third bullet - added - "of next meeting" to date, time and location. - Page 10 - Correct spelling ofMr. Snediker's name. Mr. Sullivan seconded the motion. Carried 6 - I. Mr. Ginsberg voting "no." VI. Staff Reports - None VII. New Business - None VIII. Old Business 1. County/City of Naples Beach Renourishment Update - Ron Hovell o DEP accepted Permit application as complete. o Hardbottom impacts projected over 1 acre, therefore mitigation required. 3 November 10, 2004 o $153,160.60 proposal for design and permitting an artificial reef as required by DEP o Have continuing contract with Coastal Planning & Engineering Steve Keene - Coastal Planning & Engineering (Summary & Scope of Professional Services (Attached) · Gave Summary in Permit Area · Environmental Issues covered · Discussed Hardbottom areas and impact · Environmental and Biological Monitoring · Reefmitigation and monitoring - State wants them to build the reef before any construction etc. · Would like to reduce monitoring requirement · Remaining actions are mainly to finish all permitting · Integrate Doctors Pass into plan · Gave summary and review of Engineering Service costs · Looking at summer construction deadline · Showed Lidar survey data with discussion by Committee Mr. Sorey felt, in the information he has read, the State doesn't have a valid position. With Budget constrictions, he had a problem with moving forward. Mr. Sorey suggested to approve Item Band C through L today, but not the reef discussion and try to work with the legislative delegation to preclude the building of the reef, as he understands there is no scientific data indicating there has been a problem predicated by sand getting on the Hardbottom. Can't support moving forward on the reef slide selection and engineering. $65,000 Second by Mr. Arceri. Mr. Pennington wanted a clarification on the items to approve. Mr. Sorey indicated they are: A - H & B. Discussion followed on the monitoring, building the reef, Lidar mapping, scheduling with the Board of County Commissions and TDC and Notice to Proceed. Mr. Arceri asked Steve Keene about Item C through F and how it would affect the schedule if they need to go back to the CAC, TDC and Board of County Commissioners. If there is a delay, they might want to amend the motion. Discussion followed on approval of the whole project, requirement to build a reef and the timeframe. Ron Hovell talked about the schedule for CAC, TDC and the Board of County Commissioners. Tom Campbell- Coastal Planning - the biggest cost in monitoring is monitoring the reef they have. Some reef may be required. 4 November 10, 2004 Mr. Arceri mentioned if they don't authorize the money, the project could be delayed by a year. Mr. Hovell agreed. Mr. Sorey amended his motion to recommend approval to the Board of County Commissioners - A, H & B and recommend approval of C through F contingent upon negotiations to include the legislative delegation to reduce, hopefully to eliminate the reef, and the Chairman have the authority to conclude that adequate process has been completed. Time and Material included. Mr. Arceri amended his second. The total costs they are going to spend to satisfy the DEP requirements for negotiating in getting the permits, are increased by $4M. Motion carried unanimously 7-0. 2. South Marco Beach Renourishment/Caxambas Pass Dredging Update - Ron Hovell Taylor Engineering has identified additional engineering services in the amount of$36,610 for items covered in the Summary attached. Mr. Snediker moved to approve the $36,610. Second by Mr. Sullivan. Carried unanimously 7-0. 3. Hideaway Beach Renourishment Update - Ron Hovell First Phase of proj ect, placement of sand, has been awarded to Weeks Marine. The Chairman will not sign the Contract until the State issues a notice to issue a permit and they receive the funding from the City. The City Council did approve loaning the funds to Hideaway Beach. Mr. Hovell covered the time frame of State and Federal permits. Humiston and Moore Engineers has submitted a $180,000 time and materials proposal for construction observations and monitoring. Mr. Snediker moved to approve the $180,000. Second by Mr. Arceri. Carried 6-1. Mr. Ginsberg voting "no". BREAK - 3:26 PM RECONVENED - 3:32 PM 4. Wiggins Pass Dredging Update - Ron Hovell Board approved $750,000 grant application to dredge Wiggins Pass. Details are 8.5 feet for the first 300 feet closest to shore - down to 13 feet. Bids sent out and due end of month. He is looking for approval for $44,149 for 5 November 10, 2004 engineering services work order with Humiston and Moore for construction observations and monitoring. Mr. Snediker moved to approve the $44,149. Second by Mr. Arceri. Carried unanimously 7-0. 5. Marco Island Laser Grading Update - Ron Hovell TDC recommended approval on October 25th for $30,000 grant application and recommended the version submitted by the City rather than the CAC's recommendation. Going to the BCC on November 16th. Will be done in 2-3 weeks. 6. Doctors Pass site visit by NOAA Representatives - Ron Hovell Mr. Pennington took them out on the site. They found nothing to oppose the project. 7. Resolution adopting procedures for transaction of CAC business: Heidi Ashton - Assistant County Attorney - mentioned for the record she did not come to the conclusion they are authorized to adopt a resolution, but proceeding with it. Mr. Pennington read the Resolution (Attached). Mr. Sorey moved to approve the adoption of the Resolution. Second by Mr. Hendel. Discussion followed on the "5 minute" rule, adopting the rules and policies and "members" speaking at the meetings. Carried unanimously 7-0. IX. Public Comments - none X. Announcements Mr. Pennington announced all their future meetings will be held at 1 :00 PM. XI. Committee Member Discussion Mr. Pennington addressed the letter written concerning a person being in charge of the Coastal Systems. County Manager Mr. Mudd is moving forward and asked the Tourism Director to Budget for the position. Mr. Hovell mentioned the different positions open in Collier County for the various departments. 6 November 10, 2004 Mr. Pennington would like the "Ten-Year Plan" to come before the Committee next month on the Agenda. Those that need a clearer understanding of the Budget can set up a meeting or e-mail Mr. Hovell. ** Anyone that wishes a tour of the Wiggins Pass area is to advise Maria. **DEP has updated their Website on all their projects. XII. Next Meeting Date/Location 1. December 9, 2004 - 1:00 PM - BCC Board Room 2. There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting adjourned by order of the Chair at 3:56 PM. COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE Mr. Ron Pennington, Chairman 7 ---...,--,,---"'--..--..--.-