CAC Minutes 10/14/2004 R
October 14, 2004
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE COLLIER
COUNTY COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Naples, Florida, October 14, 2004
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County Coastal Advisory
Committee in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business
herein, met on this date at 1 :30 PM in REGULAR SESSION in Building
"F" of the Government Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the
following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Ron Pennington
Tony Pires
Graham Ginsberg
John Sorey III
Murray Hendel
James Snediker
John Arceri (Excused)
Paul Sullivan
Heidi Kulpa
ALSO PRESENT: Maria Bernal, Tourism
Ron Hovell, Utility Engineering Dept.
Heidi Ashton, Assistant County Attorney
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MEETING AGENDA & NOTICE
COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2004 -1:30 p.m.
W. Harmon Turner Building (Administration Building F), Collier County Government Center, 3301 E.
Tamiami Trail, Naples
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. ROLL CALL
III. CHANGES AND APPROVAL OF AGENDA
IV. PUBLIC COMMENTS
V. APPROVAL OF CAC MINUTES
1. Approval of September 8, 2004 Minutes
VI. NEW BUSINESS
1. TDC Category "A" End of Fiscal Year 2004 Project Updates
2. TDC Category "A" 10-Year Funding Projections Updates
3. Special Taxing District
4. FDEP Beach Erosion Control Program Updated Submission for both the County/City of Naples
Beach Re-nourishment and South Marco Beach Re-nourishment
5. City of Marco Island Tourist Development Category "A" Grant Application for Laser Grading
6. Procedures for Coastal Advisory Committee
7. Advisory Committee Outstanding Member Service and Achievement Awards Program
VII. OLD BUSINESS
1 . Post Hurricanes Beach Agenda Item Memo
a. Post Hurricanes Beach Report
2. County/City of Naples Beach Re-nourishment Update
3. South Marco Beach Re-nourishmentlCaxambas Pass Dredging Update
4. Hideaway Beach Re-nourishment Update
5. Clam Pass Monitoring Report
6. Wiggins Pass Dredging Update
7. Doctors Pass Dredging Update
8. County Coastal Systems Management Recommendation
VIII. PUBLIC COMMENTS
IX. ANNOUNCEMENTS
X. COMMITTEE MEMBER DISCUSSION
XI. NEXT MEETING DATE/LOCATION
1. November 10, 2004 - BCC Board Room
XII. ADJOURNMENT
All interested parties are invited to attend, and to register to speak and to submit their objections, if any, in writing, to the board prior to
the meeting if applicable.
For more information, please contact Maria Bernal at (239) 213-2966.
If you are a person with a disability who needs any accommodation in order to participate in this proceeding, you are entitled, at no cost
to you, to the provision of certain assistance. Please contact the Collier County Facilities Management Department located at 3301 East
Tamiami Trail, Naples, FL 34112, (239) 774-8380.
Public comments will be limited to 5 minutes unless the Chairman grants permission for additional time.
Collier County Ordinance No. 99-22 requires that all lobbyists shall, before engaging in any lobbying activities (including, but not limited
to, addressing the Board of County Commissioners) before the Board of County Commissioners and its advisory boards, register with the
Clerk to the Board at the Board Minutes and Records Department.
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I. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Ron Pennington at 1 :30 PM.
II. Roll Call:
Roll call was taken with Mr. Arceri being excused. A quorum was established.
III. Changes and Approval of Agenda
Under Old Business - move Item 6 - Wiggins Pass to Item 2.
Move Item 3 - South Marco Beach Re-nourishment.
Mr. Sorey moved to approve the Agenda as amended. Second by Mr.
Sullivan. Carried unanimously 8-0.
IV. Public Comments: - None
V. Approval of CAC Minutes
1. Approval of September 8, 2004 minutes:
Page 3 - 5th Par. 3rd bullet -last sentence - should be - Markers
were "carried away."
Next Par. - Should be -"initiating" action.
Last Par. - 5th line - PBS should be - "Division" also - Pelican Bay
and "Property Owners" paid the funds for pennit.
Page 4 - 3rd Par. From bottom - Mr. Pires stated "he didn't
disagree." ·
2nd Par. - Detrimental rather than detenninal.
2nd Par. From bottom - Mr. Steve Keehn - not King - to be
corrected throughout the minutes.
Page 5 - 2nd Par. - correct spelling of Caxambas
Last Par. - 2nd line - should be - "apply" for new pennit.
Page 6 - 2nd Par. From top - add - that it was consistent with the
City's Comprehensive Plan.
Page 8 - first Par. Should be "with."
Page 9 - 5th Par. - Should be - renourish "to" Gordon's Pass.
Page 1 - Transcript stated "Special Session" - should state it was
their regular meeting.
Mr. Hendel moved to approve the Minutes of September 8th as amended.
Seconded by Mr. Pires. Carried unanimously 8-0.
VI. New Business:
1. TDC Category "A" End of Fiscal Year 2004 Project Updates - Ron
Hovell- Spreadsheet (Attached) - he covered various line items - Total Fiscal
Year Budget and Actual Expended. Explained the Budget Process and fiscal
year figures. Total Fiscal Year Budget - $12.3M, Actual Expended for the
Year - $2,994,000. Difference between numbers will roll into the current year
Budget. Committed Funds are $7.7M.
2. TDC Category "A" to-year Funding Projections Updates - Ron Hovell-
Update: ($750,000) Grant Application for dredging Wiggins Pass, ($598,000)
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City of Naples for dredging Doctors Pass, ($92,000) for Hideaway Beach
Project, Budget Amendment, (Approx. $2M) Beach Renourishment Project,
Tourist Tax Revenues and Beach Park Facilities. Again Mr. Hovell covered
the Expenses, General Reserves and Project Expenses.
Mr. Hendel suggested an Executive Session meeting to go over numbers and
try to understand it. His concern was balancing for the long range plan. Mr.
Hovell explained it doesn't balance as it is offby $1.5M. Can't have a
negative reserve - something does need to change to fix it.
After much discussion and suggestions it was decided to meet at 12:30 PM at
next months meeting for a Workshop and allow an hour for the Budget and
10- Year Plan discussion.
Mark Isackson- Office of Management and Budget - stated he would be
happy to sit down with the Committee and explain the process of multi-year
planning.
Mr. Hovell mentioned he inherited this type of Budget and has discussed
what Tourist Taxes should and shouldn't fund.
Mr. Pires addressed the interest issue. The Board has the ability to allocate
the interest from the Tourist Development funds. He assumed the interest that
was generated last fiscal year went back into the General Fund. They may
want to research the number generated from the interest and recommend to the
Board to use in TDC related projects. He represents the Clerk of Courts as
outside Council and the issue has come up in the past. His opinion was the
interest income from the TDC Tax is pooled together with other sources. The
Board can make a decision for it to still travel with the TDC Tax and allocate
back to TDC projects or decide to go in the General Fund.
Mr. Pennington stated many do feel the interest should go back to the source.
The Committee would like to know that number and discuss it at the
Workshop.
3. Special Taxing District - Mark Isackson asked Heidi Ashton to answer
any questions.
Mr. Pennington mentioned there had been a discussion at TDC asking for
infonnation on the Special Taxing District. Were there circumstances to have
a Special Taxing District rather than TDC source funds. A copy of the
Ordinance is enclosed.
Heidi's comments are as follows:
. Public Petition Policy - group of citizens interested in creating
Municipal Service Taxing District (MSTD) in a particular area getting
50%+ 1 of the members in that District. Need to show the BCC there
is interest to proceed further.
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. Board can create a District themselves - but would rather have the
citizens do it, knowing it is something they want to do.
Mr. Ginsberg felt this discussion is from the Wiggins Pass project. He
agrees the dredging of Wiggins Pass for emergency purposes is with Tourist
Taxes, but beyond a certain depth it goes into a questionable area.
Mr. Pennington responded the inlets in general were approved by the voters
in 1992. The voters will get their inlets paid by Tourist Tax. Pass inlet
maintenance is authorized for Category "A" Tourist Tax but the Tourist Tax
Ordinance doesn't address where the sand goes.
Mr. Ginsberg said they need to establish what funds are to be used for
particular projects. He discussed using sand on an eligible beach with beach
quality sand. He said in this case it isn't going to be on the beach - it will be
placed off the beach. He will vote against any TDC funds being used
inappropriately. Emergency dredging is acceptable on Wiggins Pass because
it affects Tourism.
Mr. Snediker mentioned they created a Special Taxing District on Marco
Island and it is a rather simple process.
6. Procedures for Coastal Advisory Committee - Heidi Ashton
At the request of the Committee she prepared a 4 page draft for procedures in
conducting their meetings.
Several different proposals were discussed by the members:
· Summer Monthly Meetings - will change omitting one month.
· Reconsideration of Items - the BCC has their own process and can re-hear
items - Advisory Committees do not have that opportunity - when they
vote on a matter, they can't reconsider or put it back on the next month's
agenda. Mr. Pennington agreed with Ms. Ashton on making a
recommendation "yea" or "nay" and then it goes forward.
· The function of the Committee is to review Category "A" Expenditures
and give the BCC advice on those expenditures. Reconsideration is not
going to allow for efficient County business because the Board will have
already taken their vote. If unhappy with the results, and there is a
change of fact not aware of, can make a recommendation by letter to the
BCC indicating on hearing the subject again.
· Mr. Pires suggested limiting it to reconsideration of matters with
recommendations of expenditures of Tourist Development Tax funds in
Category "A", but would not preclude other reconsiderations consistent
with Roberts Rules.
· What a Committee member can discuss was asked - Heidi responded the
Chainnan has the ability to identify matters that aren't related to the
functions of the Committee and ask.. that topic not be discussed. If the
member doesn't agree, he can ask for a vote of the Committee whether it
should be heard or not. (Addressed under "Items of Debate")
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· A request should be submitted to the Chainnan if an item is to be put on
the agenda. The Chainnan will make the detennination whether it is
relevant to the purposes of the Committee.
· Mr. Pennington asked for a change under the Order of Business. Public
Comments are added at the beginning of the meeting and at the end of the
meeting. Ms. Ashton will add "d" and put "first public comment" and
then "second public comment."
· After "Committee Discussion" Mr. Pennington would like to add: Date,
Time and Location.
· Under Item "C-2" - presentation by staff, need to include for
presentations by a petitioner or a proposal representative.
Mr. Ginsberg moved to approve and adopt the Rules as Amended.
Second by Mr. Sorey. Carried unanimously 8-0.
Ms. Ashton will bring the changes back to the Committee at next month's
meeting.
4. FDEP Beach Erosion Control Program Updated Submission for both the
County/City of Naples Beach Re-nourishment and South Marco Beach
Re-nourishment - Ron Hovell
Infonnation was scored and ranked in the States program and anticipates
receiving funds. An annual update will be needed on any cost estimates or
details that may have changed. In their packet they have the updated
infonnation which was unchanged.
On costs they are looking at a total of $1.6M of design and pennitting. $16M
is for actual construction to include construction monitoring and
environmental monitoring during construction. A $19M grant application has
been submitted to the State.
Mr. Pires moved to approve the Resolution. Second by Mr. Sorey.
Carried unanimously 8-0.
Next is the South Marco project in which the draft has been submitted for a
Resolution to the City staff for City Council's support. Project cost estimates
are a total of $300,000 for the design and pennitting phase and $1.2M for
construction phase and 3 years of beach monitoring $150,000.
Mr. Sullivan moved to approve the above project. Second by Mr. Pires.
Carried unanimously 8-0.
Mr. Hendel asked what would happen to the $19M that is to be used for
beach renourishment ifthere are more hurricanes again next year. Mr. Hovell
mentioned the project was delayed to pennitting questions and is their hope to
obtain a pennit in the next 3-4 months. If unable to do the project, the monies
would go back in the Reserves and the State money would go to some other
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County or City. Renourishment will need to be done regardless of any
changes to the beach.
5. City of Marco Island Tourist Development Category" A" Grant
Application for Laser Grading - Ron Hovell
There is a letter from the City requesting laser grading on Marco Island
beaches in their packets. Al Madsen and Mr. Hovell have coordinated with
the City and looked at the area to be graded. Goal is to get finished before
Christmas but not optimistic looking at the time the request came in. The
grant application is before the Committee because it is not in the 2005 budget
and a Budget Amendment will have to be done and come out of Reserves
Mr. Sorey asked why he should vote for this.
Mr. Ginsberg wished to see a photograph of the area concerning access.
Ms. Kulpa asked what laser grading is and its purpose.
Mr. Hovell responded to the above:
. Marco Island doesn't have a beach erosion problem but a beach
accretion problem. Sand piling up on front edge of beach - water gets
trapped and fonns legumes and becomes flat with natural vegetation
growing on it and a less attractive place.
. Need a laser rig on the beach that sends a signal to the equipment for
adjusting the blade to provide minor slope.
Mr. Ginsberg questioned the half mile rule as far as access. Discussion
followed in regards to fitting within the Policy. Mr. Hovell showed the area
on the visualizer.
Mr. Snediker moved to approve the Grant.
Ms. Kulpa asked why no one appeared to explain what the money is used for
and it's purpose with effects on other areas. Mr. Hovell mentioned the three
representatives from Marco Island are representing the Grant.
She asked what effect the grading will have on the wildlife on shore and the
birds. The response was "no effect." Mr. Sullivan mentioned Nancy Ritchie;
Environmental Specialist on staff is the one proposing and endorsing it.
Second by Mr. Sullivan.
Mr. Pires was concerned why this grant didn't come before the Committee
previously under the nonnal process. Doesn't seem to be an emergency item.
He felt taking things out of Reserves were more for unanticipated expenses
and programs and this didn't come in a timely fashion.
Motion lost - 4 yes - 4 no - those voting "no" were Mr. Pires, Mr.
Ginsberg, Mr. Hendel and Ms. Kulpa.
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Mr. Sorey moved to approve the grant with the exclusion of the portion of
the beach that is going to be renourished. Second by Mr. Hendel.
Carried 6-2. Mr. Pires and Mr. Ginsberg voting "no."
6. Advisory Committee Outstanding Member Service and Achievement
Awards Program - Maria Bernal- the BCC is asking the various
Committees to select an outstanding member if they so choose. The fonn is to
be filled out and Maria will send it onto the County Managers office. This can
be done on a monthly or quarterly basis and is optional. The BCC will also
have Service Awards and Pins awarded for volunteer time.
BREAK - 3:09 PM
RECONVENED - 3:17 PM
VII. Old Business:
1. Post Hurricanes Beach Agenda Item Memo - Ron Hovell
a. Post Hurricanes Beach Report
Have an open pennit with the State that allows placing trucked-in
sand on the beach and Contracts are in place.
Each Hurricane had its own characteristic - whether the sand went
up or down or sideways on the beach. Ivan pushed some up and
Jeanne pulled some of it down.
Mr. Pennington stated Charley flattened the city beaches/Naples
area; Frances gave the beaches erosion and Ivan had a lot of surf
that brought sand up to the seawalls.
6. Wiggins Pass Dredging Update Doctors Pass Dredging Update - Ron
Hovell- $750,000 Grant Application to dredge Wiggins Pass is enclosed in
their packet. Parks and Rec Department recommended less deep dredging -
first 100 feet be extended out to the first 200 feet and reducing 2,500 cubic
yards. Areas to be dredged were shown on the visualizer. He reviewed the
schedule in the Summary. The Humiston & Moore engineering proposal for
$15,000 is attached. Mr. Hovell read an email from Ken Humiston
concerning the sand, maintenance and shelling material. The Grant
application stated they do not need to do a maintenance dredging without
sampling the material. Had experiences elsewhere in which they have
observed less than 100% beach compatible material. Wouldn't get that when
doing inlet maintenance dredging.
Mr. Ginsberg didn't understand testing the material because it won't be
placed on a beach, so doesn't quality for TDC Funds. It does qualify as
emergency dredging because of a safety issue restricting tourism. His
question was why test the material.
Mr. Hovell responded Parks & Rec has requested to do sand sampling. The
consultant provided a cost proposal for the sampling - but basically advised
that it is a waste of money. Mr. Hovell talked about the sand situation and
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how it will migrate to the beach east of the near shore disposal area and up
and down the beach and along the southern points where there is a lot of
erOSiOn.
They have the State pennits. Park Ranger (Robert Staiger) has been kept
infonned and apprised of the progress of the project. Most of the concern of
the State would be expanding the pennit. Told them doing only maintenance
dredging within the limits of the current pennit.
Need recommendation today for budgeting $750,000 for construction and
engineering services and post construction monitoring. Secondly, to make a
recommendation on awarding - either $15,000 or $30,000 of the $750,000.
Mr. Sorey asked Mr. Hovell to explain the 8.5 feet out and if there's any
problem with the pennit to do a different dredging from the past. Mr. Hovell
answered "no". They are in the bounds of the pennit and will establish the
maximum depths they can dredge and are proposing to do less than that. The
pennit allows dredging to deeper depths. Proposing less deep or shallow
dredging which hopefully wouldn't have any impact on the adjacent beaches.
He showed the modified dredging depth.
Mr. Ginsberg would like to see the distance of 8 or 8 Yz feet. Would reduce
the cost of the dredge and fit within the States requirements ofTDC Funds.
Mr. Pennington mentioned they wanted to get an opinion and evaluation
from Humiston & Moore. Mr. Moore mentioned to proceed and not get hung
up on minor details.
Mr. Ginsberg felt the pass has eroded away, needs to be remedied and
suggests having it at 8 foot instead of a nominal 200 foot. He didn't feel it
should be an issue to dredge to 13 feet.
Mr. Pire's recollected the problem was going to the 13 foot depth in the
channel. If 8 foot depth is appropriate, why go beyond that. He would
support the 9 or 8 Y:z feet - not the 13 feet.
Mr. Sorey reminded the Committee that it is an emergency because it didn't
have a sponsor nor get in the schedule and was supposed to have been dredged
at this time. He didn't think there was anything in the presentation that
indicated more than the 200 foot was recommended.
Mr. Hovell reviewed the expenses as being $100,000 for engineering services
out of the $750,000. Out of the $650,000 - $200/250,000 is for the service
call of just having the equipment there. From efficiency and cost, if they are
going to do it, do the full blown maintenance dredging.
Mr. Hendel needed to leave the meeting and wanted the Committee to know
he favors the proposal and doing it immediately.
(Mr. Hendel left at 3:45 PM.)
Ms. Kulpa asked if they are dredging the right area since the path has
changed. She also asked if someone has looked at the area to be dredged. She
agreed with Mr. Ginsberg on the 8 feet of dredging.
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Mr. Pennington assured her they have looked at this in the past. Mr. Hovell
stated they need to do it within the bounds of the pennit and the depth limit.
If they want anything different, they are not going to get it done this winter.
Mr. Ginsberg discussed the time frame between dredges. He felt digging a
deeper trench is going to extend the timeframe between dredges and said it
was entirely true and has not yet had it proven. He continued in discussing the
sand pulling down and filling in going down deeper and deeper. He felt the 8
Y2 is more than adequate.
Mr. Pires and Ms. Kulpa agreed.
Mr. Hovell brought up the schedule again. May have to declare an
emergency and waive some of the Florida Purchasing Requirements in
advertising major projects. Awarding the Contract may be January 11 tho
Mr. Sorey wants to do what they can to get it to the BCC for their December
meeting.
SPEAKERS
John Findley - Certified Marina Manager - Chairman of Milestone Committee
_ advisory group that monitors for the County the Pass and makes recommendations
to the County in regards to the Pass. They paid for the survey after Hurricane
Charley. He gave figures of the amounts of sand placed in the disposal area in the
past years. This is an emergency and a critical and life threatening situation. Gave
statistics of boats running aground and deaths in Florida. The Office of Boating and
Waterways is the State enforcement office responsible for all State waters and the
safety of them. He urged the office be contacted and involved if they have not been.
Need to get this project done for the safety of the citizens that live in the area.
Randy Ward - Marine Industries & Certified Marina Manager - he had a
conversation with the Sheriffs Dept. and the North Naples Fire District. They had a
concern on the availability of Wiggins Pass for them to respond. The Fire Dept. uses
it approx. 70 times a year and the Sheriffs Dept. uses it everyday. From a safety
standpoint he emphasized how important it is for the pass to be dredged and kept
open.
Joe Moreland - Chairman Board of Directors of Estuary Conservation Inc.
Organization is involved in helping with research and public education. They are
very concerned with long tenn. Dealing with crisis made by nature. All committed
to the environment as well as recreation and balancing them. His personal opinion
was the property owners in that area would be ecstatic to be assured of having a
taxing district so there would be a continual revenue stream to support the
maintenance of the pass. No one is insisting the tourist dollars be used. He felt they
can use tourist tax dollars for the emergency dredge.
He is proposing: dredging every two years with a maintenance dredge in-between if
needed. They do it this year because it is an emergency and use tourist dollars to do
it. During the two year period, before reoccurring cost for routine dredge, they would
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direct to review sources of continual revenue and a main source being a Special
Taxing District. The Estuary Conservation would help assist in studying these
sources and hope his Board would back him.
During two years they need a solid hydrological study of Wiggins Pass to answer
questions. He asked it be funded by the County or possibly volunteer donations.
Then they know what they are doing.
Doug Fee - President of North Bay Civic Assn. - Wiggins Pass is very important to
the tourist, environment and the people that live along the water. He supported Mr.
Moreland's comments of having a study done. He read a Resolution of December 16,
2003 supporting a study. They have expressed their opinion on the depth issue - the 8
12 feet - and understand the engineering finn is saying go out 200 feet. Until they
know what they are doing is working, they may be asked later to spend an additional
$750,000.
John Findley stated in the Wiggins Pass Management Plan they did evaluate and
look at going 8 feet further out. County Staff said they came up with a plan - to take
it to 8 feet but would have to widen to 490 feet to make it acceptable so it wouldn't
fill in for a 6-12 month period and make it last for 2 years. It was not feasibly
possible to go 490 feet out causing more beach erosion. The engineer said there is
evidence that increased dredging depth caused at least "some" of the problems in the
erosion of Barefoot Beach.
Mr. Pires moved to recommend authorizing an engineering services work order
proposal as outlined in the October 13th, 2004 Humiston & Moore proposal,
with modification engineering work be associated with a dredging depth of no
greater, not to exceed negative 8.5 feet depth the full extent of the previously
permitted dredged area and to process same as expeditiously as possible and
have the staff with the County Manager and the County Attorneys office
expeditious providing of bids, invitations to bids and possibly action by the
County Manager whenever the Board is on an extended recess. Second by Mr.
Ginsberg.
Mr. Sorey is opposing the motion as he feels they do not have the engineering to
justify it but supports moving forward.
Roll Call vote: Mr. Pires-yes, Mr. Sorey-no, Mr. Ginsberg-yes, Mr. Sullivan-no,
Mr. Snicker-no, Mrs. Kulpa-yes, Mr. Pennington-no. Motion fails 3-4.
Mr. Sorey moved to approve the $750,000 grant and the dredging be 8.5 feet to
2+00 and 13.5 feet for the remainder and request County staff to expedite it to
get on the County Commission Agenda for their December meeting. Second by
Mr. Sullivan.
Roll Call vote: Mrs. Kulpa-yes, Mr. Snediker-yes, Mr. Sullivan-yes, Mr.
Ginsberg-yes, Mr. Sorey-yes, Mr. Pires-no, Mr. Pennington-yes. Mrs. Kulpa
changed her vote to "no." Motion carried 5-2.
(Mr. Ginsberg left at 4:24 PM)
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Mr. Sorey moved the approval of engineering fees for $13,500, not including the
$15,000 for the core samples. Second by Mr. Snediker.
Carried unanimously 6-0.
3. South Marco Beach Re-nourishment/Caxambas Pass Dredging Update -
Ron Hovell- met at a conference in late September and took the opportunity
to give the people from Tallahassee a boat tour of the areas. It was advertised
as a public meeting with a goal of discussing RAI and pennitting. Saw the
shorebird resting and feeding areas and if sea grasses were in the area etc.
Mike Trednack - Taylor Engineering - showed contours and borrow area
on visualizer. He talked about extending the borrow area seaward to deepen
the navigational channel. They looked into it and are in communication with
the City of Marco Island. Can't put sand on the beach because not beach
compatible. 2 reasons: 1) they have already filled up the beach template to the
1991 design limits. 2) Sand further seaward is fine sand, finer than what is on
the beach now and in the other part ofthe borrow area. If substituting - it
would impact the project. Would have to be a separate project and are talking
to City of Marco Island concerning this issue.
4. Hideaway Beach Re-nourishment Update - Ron Hovell
Have accepted pennit application as complete and have 90 days from August
25th to issue a Notice of Intent, issue a Pennit or deny it. He is working with
them to get that before the 90 days if possible. They are opening bids today
on the portion of placing the sand. Budget estimate is under $2M. The
construction portion's last estimate is $1,836,500. Two bidders are: Lake
Michigan Contractors -$2.8, and Weeks Marine - $2,482,775. 35% over what
was set aside in the Budget. The Special Taxing District meets next week with
that being a topic of discussion. The City should be the first one to propose
whether they will agree to the price and submit the grant application or not -
but there is no time.
Mr. Hovel said they need a recommendation for award and supplemental
Budget Amendment to cover expenses and revenues with a zero impact.
Mr. Snediker moved to award Weeks Contract contingent upon the
determination of the finances by Marco Island. Second by Mr. Sullivan.
Carried unanimously 6-0.
2. County/City of Naples Beach Re-nourishment Update - Mr. Hovell
The 30 days for the RAI will be next week and will then find out if they get
another RAI or not. Cost proposals from the engineer will come in
November.
Mr. Pennington stated they detennined with DEP - they are going to remove
the spoils area further south which will narrow the northern one. They will
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avoid hard bottom encroachment and not need any mitigation from Doctors
Pass. This will need to be discussed further.
5. Clam Pass Monitoring Report - Mr. Hovell
Included the monitoring report in the infonnation the committee received.
Pelican Bay Services Division hired a consultant that is providing the
infonnation.
7. Doctors Pass Dredging Update - Mr. Pennington
Three divers from DEP looked at the Hardbottom area south of Doctors Pass
in 12 feet of water. They were 500 to 1,000 feet off shore and made two dives
at separate sites. They found it was environmentally active. He talked about
the Interlocal Agreement made in 1995 which points out the area of the
Moorings Bay System - which is the responsibility of the Special Taxing
District. This was prior to being a Tourist Tax and mainly for dredging
Doctors Pass and the maintenance of the Moorings Bay System. The cost will
remain to be paid by the Moorings Bay Taxing District. The cost of
maintenance of Doctors Pass will be paid by the Category "A" Fund from the
Collier County Tourist Development Tax. There is a relationship between the
Special Municipal Taxing area and the Tourist Tax, which is well defined.
8. County Coastal Systems Management Recommendation -Mr. Pennington
He mentioned there were many areas within the County that had no staff to
manage the Counties Coastal Systems of which some are Wiggins Pass and
Clam Pass. He met with the County Manager and he requested the CAC go to
the BCC with a recommendation. He appointed a sub-committee of
Mr. Pires, Mr. Sorey and himself to meet and draft a letter for the BCe.
Mr. Pires moved to approve the Sub-Committee minutes of September
22nd with the correction of one word. Second by Mr. Pennington.
Carried.
Mr. Pennington referred to the letter and read the finished product.
(Attached)
Mr. Snediker moved to sign and approve the letter to be sent to the Board
of County Commissioners Chairman Donna Fiala. Second by
Ms. Kulpa. Carried unanimously 6-0.
The staff was complimented on their infonnation for a better understanding of
the situation.
VIII. Public Comments - None
IX. Announcements - None
X. Committee Member Discussion
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Mr. Pires complimented the County staff and Maria for the website and hyper-
linking for the Agenda and back-up material.
Mr. Sullivan thanked Al Madsen for the wonderful tour ofthe beaches he took.
Mr. Snediker thanked Mr. Hovell for all the services he has done for CAC and
has been a pleasure working with him. (Mr. Hovell has accepted a new position)
Mr. Pennington also thanked Mr. Hovell and Maria.
Mr. Hovell thanked Maria for all her work as a staff Liaison and the excellent
work she does.
XI. Next Meeting Date/Location
1. November 10,2004 - BCC Board Room
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting adjourned
by order of the Chair at 5:07 PM.
COLLIER COUNTY COASTAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Ron Pennington, Chairman
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Collier County Coastal Advisory Committee
3050 Horseshoe Drive, Suite 218, Naples, FL
(239)213-2966
October 14, 2004
Donna Fiala, Chairman
Board of County Commissioners
Collier County Government Complex
3301 East Tamiami Trail
Naples, FL 34112
Dear Chairman Fiala,
The Coastal Advisory Committee (CAC) recently came to the realization there is no
entity within the County government with assigned responsibility for its coastal systems.
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County staff (Utilities Engineering) manages coastal projects on an assigned project
basis, such as specific beach renourishment or inlet dredging projects. Community
Development and Environmental Services is responsible for certain coastal systems
related programs, i.e., artificial reefs, maintenance of navigation aids, manatee protection,
derelict vessels, waterways obstructions and boater education. However, a void exists for
comprehensive management and planning of our beaches and inlets. For example, the
committee feels the following are not adequately being addressed:
· There is no overall Comprehensive Strategic Coastal Plan for our beaches, passes
and waterways and that most work is done based on specific projects.
· No detailed overall comprehensive data driven, monitoring, assessment or
surveillance of our coastal areas except as it may pertain to a specific project.
· There is no detailed Comprehensive Coastal Zone Management Plan (shorebirds,
sea grass, turtles) and again, work in these areas is only associated with approved
projects.
· There is a need for stronger advocacy for Coastal funding for both TDC and other
County funds for critical Coastal needs.
The county had a strong natural resources environmental organization in the mid 1980's,
with three contract Marine Biologist PHD's ,under a state program, providing coastal
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zone management. With changing priorities, the funding and the organization ultimately
disappeared.
The CAC recently encountered circumstances with Wiggins Pass, Clam. Pass and
beach areas where there is no responsible staff entity. These matters have been discussed
with the County Manager. Mr. Mudd requested the CAC provide a recommendation to
the Board of County Commissioners.
It is the CAC's recommendation that the Board of County Commissioners authorize
the resources for establishment of a coastal systems management element within the
county staff organization. This element will be responsible for management of the county
coastal areas, less those of the City ofNaþles which has this responsibility within its
natural resourèes management.
Coastal systems management should include: development of policy, maintenance
planning and budgeting, condition evaluation and general oversight of the county's
beaches, inlets and impacting elements such as shoaling, hard bottom, sea grasses, algae
intrusion and other factors affecting the health and well being of the county's coastal
natural resources. It is further recommended that the staffmg include at least one
professional such as a PHD level marine biologist to provide the scientific understanding
of the natural processes of our coastal assets.
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Respectfully submitted
Ron Pennington, Chairman
Cc: Commissioner Coletta
Commissioner Coyle
Commissioner Halas
Commissioner Henning
County Manager Mudd