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Fire Service Steering Committee Minutes 04/16/1991 FIRE SERVICE STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING The Fire Service Steering Committee was called to order at 7:40PM at Port of the Islands and was hosted by Ochopee Fire Control District on 4-16-9l; . The following were in attendance. Vince Doerr, Fire Chief OFCD Allen Poyner, Advisory Board Member OFCD Curtis Smith, Volunteer OFCD Linda Swisher, secretary OFCD J.C. Nutley, Fire Chief IFCD Ray Deluna Jr., Commissioner IFCD Bob Siebold, Fire Chief BCIFR George H. Eckhardt, Commissioner BCIFR Don Peterson, Fire Chief GGFD Marvin Steffen, Commissioner GGFD Wayne Martin, Fire Chief ENFD Wayne Brian, Fire Marshall Inspector ENFD Herb Luntz, Commissioner ENFD Tom Cannon, Commissioner ENFD Greg Speers, Commissioner ENFD Jim Jones, Fire Chief NNFD Walter Kissel, Commissioner NNFD Ken Pineau, Emergency Management Director Don Hunter, Sheriff CCSO Wayne Graham, Capt. CCSO Bill McNulty CCSO Ben Holycross, Lee County Approval of Minutes The minutes of the previous meeting were accepted. Election of Officers Herb Luntz moved that the recommendations of Officers by the Nominating Committee be approved. A vote was taken on the following nominees and were accepted: Tom Cannon - President ENFD Jim Jones - Vice President NNFD Ray Deluna Jr. - Secretary IFCD Walter Kissel - Treasurer NNFD Herb Luntz aked if the Steering Committee would sponsor the 4th of July Parade to be held and funded by the City of Naples. A motion was made to sponsor the parade and was passed . PAGE 1 800 MHZ Communication: Don Hunter - 8:00PM Chief Martin introduced Ben Holycross, Sheriff Don hunter, Bill McNutly and Capt. Wayne Graham who were present to impart information in reference to 800 MHZ. Ben Holycross started by giving a short lecture on 800 MHZ due to his expierence with putting a new system into operation in Lee County. He stated that the Federal Govern- ment is going to mandate that all the agencies have systems where they can communicate with each other and County to County. He felt several items need to be considered before deciding on a system of which are the following: 1. Need to have the capability to talk to all agencies. 2. Establish a growth rate in order to set up a system that will last 10 years. 3. Determine how many people will be on the system. He does not recommend a product or technology that is not stabilized. He interjected that they need to find out where the manufacturer wants the technology to go and how they intend to support it. In his County the agencies wanted their autonomy, he stated trunking technology supports autonomy of Departments. In Lee County the base site equipment was a set cost divided by portables and mobiles on the system then divided amongst them. Lee County also locked in the bulk price for each agency to purchase a radio. He further commented that Lee County created a bond issue to pay for the new radio service. Ben Holycross terminated his lecture and a discussion began in reference to the subject of 800 MHZ. Herb Luntz - He stated the 800 MHZ system has been put:into operation within the Collier County local government system and he interjected that it works very well. George Eckhardt - He Posed the question to Ben Holycross in reference to 800 MHZ radios being able to perform simplex operations if the repeater goes down. Mr. Holycross said they would perfrom simplex opera- tions. Greg Speers - He asked if EMS were to go out of the County how would they talk? Ben Holycross - He stated there are mutual aid channels that are not trunked. Chief Martin - He wanted to know what the cost would be to install this system. Wayne Graham - He stated the cost has not been worked out yet what is needed has not been established. Sheriff Hunter •- He stated they cannot obtain any more frequencies, their only option is the trunking system. The following is what has been determined so far: 800 MHZ - Motorola System 1. 20 Frequencies 2. 48,000 Units 3. Accomodate 4,000 available talk groups The abovementioned would fall into a price range of 7 to 11 million dollars. He stated.at this time there are 1,100 units that would be on the system. PACE 2 Continuation of 800 MHZ Communication: Don Hunter - 800PM Sheriff Hunter - He would like to see the 800 trunking system be pushed modestly and all present to think about it, because he needs their support. He further commented that most of South Florida has gone Motorola and looks like that is attractive. Chief Nutley - He was involved in an 800 MHZ system in Colorado and it was about 7 million dollars. He went on to say that the printed read outs in the trucks do not work well however at the stations it was invaluable all the information was on the print out sheet. He contends 800 MHZ is the way to go. Chief Jones - He wanted to know what type of maintenance problems compared to what we have now? Ben Holycross - He stated the equipment is very solid judging from the expierences they have had so far in Lee County. Wayne Graham - Stated there is no direction that they can take with their conventional system they have to go 800 MHZ, with 800 they could have a 20 year plan instead of a 5 year plan as originally directed. Chief Siebold and Chief Jones wanted to know how they were going to pay for this new system. Chief Nutley wanted to know if a special Taxing District could be set up to pay for it? Sheriff Hunter - He stated that possibly the system could be purchased under a Bond Issue and for maintenance maybe create a Taxing District. He also wanted the Chiefs to make a lists of their problems. He feels they need a unified approach as to why we need 800 MHZ. Tom Cannon - He suggested they all put down the problems and the needs then bring it back to the Steering Committee next month. He feels they need to work with CCSO and put 800 MHZ on the agenda the next meeting. All the Departments with representation present voted to support the Sheriff's Dept. in reference to obtaining an 800 MHZ System. A letter was passed around regarding the Mobile Command 'Post. Ken Pineau - He is recommending to the Board of County Commissioners to decommission the existing mobile command post because it is completely unreliable, they will be salvaging the equipment out of the unit. Tom Cannon - He suggested to take the letter back to their individual Fire Commissions then bring it back to the next Steering Committee Meeting. Ken Pineau - He stated there would be a $17,000 in grant money to go towards the mobile command post the County would have to match it. Tom Cannon - He suggested the mobile command post be brought up again at the next Meeting. PAGE 3 Articles of Incorporation Tom Cannon - He received some information regarding the Articles of Incorporation, they were accepted by the State of Florida and assigned a charter number. He will be filling out the SS4 Form ID number application and the number and will be registered with the IRS. Consolidation Ken Pineau - He stated that Jay Reardon has been in contact with Ron Coleman the team Chief and they are on the;3mddraft. Fire Code Interpreter Nothing has been accomplished as of this time. Walter Kissel - He suggested setting up a program of their own and not go with the County. His Committee will be meeting with Neil Dorrill again they need a recommendation. Chief Nutley - He suggested all the local Departments adopt the newest NFPA Standards as the new Fire Code for Collier County. Chief Martin - He concurred, but he felt they needed to verify statute. Wayne Brian - He explained that the Fire Marshall's Dept. administers the code and the individual boards establish the user fees to subsidize this program. He feels they should move ahead with a code. Chief Nutley - Right now they are relying on County Ordinance if any decision goes in litigation they would be taking on that responsibility and would have to obtain an attorney. Wayne Brian - He uses the State Attorney's Office if he has any problems. The ability to cite someone would be the only problem but that mechanism is in the fee schedule. Walter Kissel - His committee will be getting together again and he will come back with a recommendation. Enabling Act This issue is dead. Concept Paper A new version of the concept paper was passed out to all in attendance. Correspondence None. PAGE 4 Collection of Fees Tom Cannon - He stated all Departments need to send a copy of their Advalorem Tax Base to Walter Kissel. Walter Kissel - He commented that 1% of Advalorem Taxes or a minimum of $100.00 will be collected for Steering Committee dues. Other Topics Bob Siebold - He made mention of Chief McDonald uueting with his Fire Commissioners in reference to the Steering Committee and he wanted to know if they had decided to support their Committee or drop out. Walter Kissel - He stated there was no word on that yet, however, he spoke with Chief Mcdonald and he felt his Fire Commissioners would come around. Tom Cannon - He stated that two months ago they set up a Committee with Mark Strain as the Chairman with Committee Members, Walter Kissel and Herb Luntz. This Committee was to be a Study Group in reference to the Uniformity of Union Contracts. Walter Kissel - He Stated the Study Group and not yet met as of this date. Chief Nutley - He thanked North Naples and Big Corkscrew Fire Departments_far their suppression activities on a fire during the weekend of Easter. He went on to thank Miro° Island Fire Department and those who supplied the Investigators for the Task Force Group investigating the ABC fire on Easter Morning. Chief Doerr - He wanted to thank Allen Poyner and his wife for the food they supplied for the Steer Committee Meeting. Tom Cannon - He thanked Ochopee's District for the fine hosting of the meeting and Mrs. Poyner from all of them for the food she furnished. Schedule Next Meeting The next meeting will be held at East Naples Fire Department on Davis Blvd. at 7:30PM on 5-21-91. Adjournment The meeting was adjourned at 11:45PM. PAGE 5 1 I iu 111 ,! 7. 7 Fr 0,. t4 -7-z--- --L- 1 c----- Mir p c (e 14 A :pc, I C6c x 7,5 S 0-2 ITH O/ D /1-JAil2p-y2-2-1-, , gc "i„....4„.„ ‘ ......-__ r------- . - ---.0( /far- Oevf4r-rlrlt, / M fi'_,,,)z, _C/, ,/,,W1 /,?• -• --/ ,c/f7 , , ,4,4,,, Xe04‘ / % — O - fk.. 0,3 "Pe../re f`5 0.,-) .--ro•-••-• Cs%1..A.fa,V i...) e4-S. 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