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TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE
COLLIER COUNTY CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD
Naples, Florida, May 24, 2018
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Collier County
Code Enforcement Board, in and for the County of Collier, having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00 a.m., in
REGULAR SESSION in Building "F" of the Government Complex,
East Naples, Florida, with the following members present:
CHAIRMAN: Robert Kaufman
Robert Ashton
Sue Curley
Ron Doino
Gerald J. Lefebvre
Lionel L'Esperance
Kathleen Elrod (alternate)
Ryan White (alternate)
Herminio Ortega (excused)
ALSO PRESENT:
Danny Blanco, Code Enforcement
Jeff Letourneau, Manager of Investigations
Tamara Lynne Nicola, Attorney to the Board
Code Enforcement Board Hearing
AGENDA
Board of County Commission Chambers
Collier County Government Center
3299 Tamiami Trail East, 3rd Floor
Naples, FL 34112
May 24, 2018
9:00 AM
Robert Kaufman, Chair
Gerald Lefebvre, Vice-Chair
Lionel L’Esperance, Member
Ronald Doino, Member
Robert Ashton, Member
Sue Curley, Member
Herminio Ortega, Member
Kathleen Elrod, Alternate
Ryan White, Alternate
Notice: Respondents may be limited to twenty (20) minutes for case presentation unless
additional time is granted by the Board. Persons wishing to speak on any agenda item will
receive up to five (5) minutes unless the time is adjusted by the Chairman.
All parties participating in the public hearing are asked to observe Roberts Rules of Order and
speak one at a time so that the court reporter can record all statements being made.
Any person who decides to appeal a decision of this Board will need a record of the proceedings
pertaining thereto, and therefore may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is
made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.
Neither Collier County nor the Code Enforcement Board shall be responsible for providing this
record.
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
II. ROLL CALL
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
V. PUBLIC HEARINGS/MOTIONS
A. MOTIONS
MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE
1. CASE NO: CESD20170011238
OWNER: Caryn Mary McGrath
OFFICER: Jonathan Musse
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a) and 10.02.06(B)(1)(e)(i). A mobile
home that was removed between 2006 and 2007 without a valid
demolition permit, and a dock lift, shed, and power pole
installed without first obtaining a valid Collier County Permit.
FOLIO NO: 46420360009
VIOLATION 659 Palm Ave., Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
2. CASE NO: CESD20170003341
OWNER: Eliseo Viamonte
OFFICER: Delicia Pulse
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a)(e) and (i). Alterations consisting of
but not limited to: garage conversion into living space with full
bathroom and a door installed in rear for private access, no
Collier County Permits Obtained.
FOLIO NO: 36321920008
VIOLATION 5428 27th Ave SW, Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
MOTION FOR EXTENSION OF TIME
3. CASE NO: CESD20170001654
OWNER: Helen Braughman
OFFICER: Joseph Giannone
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(a). Three unpermitted structures/mobile
homes on the property.
FOLIO NO: 1134803606
VIOLATION 15859 Janes Scenic Drive, Copeland, FL
ADDRESS:
B. STIPULATIONS
C. HEARINGS
1. CASE NO: CELU20180005366
OWNER: Julio Garcia
OFFICER: Jonathan Musse
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 1.04.01(A) and 2.02.03. Outside storage consisting of
but not limited to: tires, trash bags, ladders, wood, tools, coolers,
dolly, car parts, etc.
FOLIO NO: 62264080008
VIOLATION 5305 Trammel St., Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
2. CASE NO: CESD20170018189
OWNER: Maylet Marquez
OFFICER: Tony Asaro
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a), 10.02.06(B)(1)(e), and
10.02.06(B)(1)(e)(i). Concrete wall, room addition and shed
constructed without obtaining a Collier County Building Permit.
FOLIO NO: 41044280007
VIOLATION 3665 14th Ave SE, Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
3. CASE NO: CESD20170001888
OWNER: Alberto Hernandez P A
OFFICER: Colleen Davidson
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a), 10.02.06(B)(1)(e), and
10.02.06(B)(1)(e)(i). Enclosed overhead door opening with a
cement block wall with a double man door in it without
obtaining required Collier County Permits.
FOLIO NO: 76477000081
VIOLATION 5405 Taylor Road, Unit 4, Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
4. CASE NO: CEV20180002623
OWNER: Glenstal Abbey LLC
OFFICER: Jonathan Musse
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Code of Laws and Ordinances, Article III,
Chapter 130, Section 130-97(4). Commercial vehicle(s) and
trailer(s) parked on residentially zoned property.
FOLIO NO: 62204800002
VIOLATION 5346 Caldwell St., Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
5. CASE NO: CESD20170017000
OWNER: David Espinosa
OFFICER: Tony Asaro
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section(s) 10.02.06(B)(1)(a), 10.02.06(B)(1)(e), and
10.02.06(B)(1)(e)(i). Several unpermitted structures on the
property.
FOLIO NO: 39328600001
VIOLATION 430 20th ST NE, Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
6. CASE NO: CENA20170014563
OWNER: Utopia East Trail LLC
OFFICER: Jonathan Musse
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Code of Laws and Ordinances, Chapter 54,
Article VI, Section 54-185(d). Prohibited exotic vegetation
consisting of but not limited to: Brazilian Pepper, Air Potato,
Earleaf Acacia, Australian Pine, Melaleuca, and Java Plum, etc
within a 200 feet radius of an improved property.
FOLIO NO: 447240009
VIOLATION No Site Address
ADDRESS:
7. CASE NO: CESD20170020080
OWNER: LSF9 MSTR Participation Trust
OFFICER: Tony Asaro
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a), 10.02.06(B)(1)(e), and
10.02.06(B)(1)(e)(i). Alteration work to the interior of the main
structure.
FOLIO NO: 40064640000
VIOLATION 4070 29th Ave NE, Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
8. CASE NO: CESD20170018508
OWNER: A V Vision LLC
OFFICER: Colleen Davidson
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(a) and Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(e).
Alterations / additions commenced without obtaining proper
Collier County Building Permits.
FOLIO NO: 32488080005
VIOLATION 4588 Parrot Ave., Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
9. CASE NO: CESD20170012456
OWNER: Waste Services of Florida Inc
OFFICER: Jon Hoagboon
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a) and 10.02.06(B)(1)(e)(i).
Improvements made without first obtaining any and all required
Collier County Permits.
FOLIO NO: 274840009
VIOLATION 3706 Mercantile Ave., Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
10. CASE NO: CESD20170011238
OWNER: Caryn Mary McGrath
OFFICER: Jonathan Musse
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a) and 10.02.06(B)(1)(e)(i). A mobile
home that was removed between 2006 and 2007 without a valid
demolition permit, and a dock lift, shed, and power pole
installed without first obtaining a valid Collier County Permit.
FOLIO NO: 46420360009
VIOLATION 659 Palm Ave., Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
11. CASE NO: CESD20180000309
OWNER: Scherley Fonseca Vazquez and Maria Tania Toirac
Arburola
OFFICER: Tony Asaro
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a), 10.02.06(B)(1)(e), and
10.02.06(B)(1)(e)(i). Mobile home placed on the property
without obtaining a Collier County Building Permit.
FOLIO NO: 40930520005
VIOLATION 121 Everglades Blvd S, Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
12. CASE NO: CEV20180006549
OWNER: Eduardo Rodriguez and Maria L Rodriguez
OFFICER: Michele McGonagle
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Code of Laws and Ordinances, Chapter 130,
Article III, Section 130-97(3). Commercial vehicles/equipment
parked/stored on the residential property.
FOLIO NO: 22670600009
VIOLATION 3600 Poplar Way, Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
13. CASE NO: CESD20180006392
OWNER: Eduardo Rodriguez and Maria L. Rodriguez
OFFICER: Michele McGonagle
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a), 10.02.06(B)(1)(e), and
10.02.06(B)(1)(e)(i). Unpermitted wood structures, metal
carport, and concrete columns on the residential property.
FOLIO NO: 22670600009
VIOLATION 3600 Poplar Way, Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
14. CASE NO: CESD20170016916
OWNER: Neysis Rodriguez
OFFICER: Tony Asaro
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 1.04.01(A), 10.02.06(B)(1)(a), 10.02.06(B)(1)(e), and
10.02.06(B)(1)(e)(i). Unpermitted structures on the property and
expired pool permit number 930007170.
FOLIO NO: 37861480007
VIOLATION 1680 Randall Blvd., Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
15. CASE NO: CENA20180001626
OWNER: Philip R Carr
OFFICER: Colleen Davidson
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section 1.04.01(A) and Collier County Code of Laws and
Ordinances, Chapter 54, Article VI, Section 54-179 and 54-181.
Scrap metal, appliances, furniture, plastic barrels, bikes, piles of
vegetative debris, various types of containers, tires,
miscellaneous litter, and unlicensed/inoperable vehicles.
FOLIO NO: 246320007
VIOLATION 1900 J and C Blvd, Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
16. CASE NO: CESD20170001107
OWNER: Magaly Gonzalez
OFFICER: Tony Asaro
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a) and 10.02.06(B)(1)(e). Interior
alterations to the main structure to include two apartments with
kitchens, bedrooms, bathrooms, with electric without obtaining
Collier County Building Permit(s). Also, Air Conditioners units
have been relocated without obtaining Collier County Building
Permit(s).
FOLIO NO: 40358240006
VIOLATION 3541 24th Ave NE, Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
17. CASE NO: CELU20170018920
OWNER: Janice Anderson
OFFICER: Michele McGonagle
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section 2.02.03 and Collier County Code of Laws, Chapter 54,
Article VI, Section 54-181. Storing of vehicles, trailers and
other household / construction items in the rear of the property.
FOLIO NO: 63504040008
VIOLATION 3552 Seagrape Ave. Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
D. MOTION FOR REDUCTION OF FINES/LIENS
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. MOTION FOR IMPOSITION OF FINES/LIENS
1. CASE NO: CESD20160011175
OWNER: Maria O. Jimenez
OFFICER: Jonathan Musse
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a) and 10.02.06(B)(1)(e)(i). Permitted
lanai with slab and trusses that was converted into a living space
without first obtaining a valid Collier County Permit.
FOLIO NO: 62262720001
VIOLATION 5326 Trammel St., Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
2. CASE NO: CELU20150022309
OWNER: Highland Properties of Lee and Collier
OFFICER: Virginie Giguere
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 1.04.01(A) and 2.02.03. Commercial vehicles/trailers
and dumpsters, numerous piles of vegetative debris and
miscellaneous piles of litter containing but not limited to: wood,
pipes, metal, concrete blocks, etc. on vacant parcel.
FOLIO NO: 407320008
VIOLATION No Site Address
ADDRESS:
3. CASE NO: CESD20170008234
OWNER: 11222 Tamiami LLC
OFFICER: Jonathan Musse
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a) and 10.02.03(B)(5). Dumpster
placed on a different location on the property and without a
wooden enclosure which is required according to the site
development plan no. 91-83.
FOLIO NO: 60783240004
VIOLATION 11222 Tamiami Trail East, Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
4. CASE NO: CESD20170002774
OWNER: N-A Properties LLC
OFFICER: Delicia Pulse
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a)(e) and (i). In ground swimming pool
on property with no barrier and no permits obtained.
FOLIO NO: 38169440007
VIOLATION 5630 Copper Leaf Lane, Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
5. CASE NO: CESD20160020044
OWNER: Teresa Scoppettone
OFFICER: John Johnson
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Land Development Code, 04-41, as amended,
Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(a). Interior renovations/alterations done
to interior including but not limited to: kitchen countertops,
cabinets, sink, also bathroom cabinets, countertops, toilets, tile
work. Work done includes electrical, plumbing, structural, etc.
FOLIO NO: 46770280004
VIOLATION 1714 Kings Lake Blvd., Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
6. CASE NO: CEROW20150023030
OWNER: Patrick J. Browne and Beatriz Z. Perez
OFFICER: Joseph Mucha
VIOLATIONS: Collier County Code of Laws and Ordinances, Chapter 110,
Roads and Bridges, Article II, Construction in Right of Way,
Division 1, Generally, Section 110-31(a). A culvert/drainage
pipe in need of repair or replacement.
FOLIO NO: 164960002
VIOLATION 203 Willoughby Drive, Naples, FL
ADDRESS:
B. MOTION TO RESCIND PREVIOUSLY ISSUED ORDER
C. MOTION TO AMEND PREVIOUSLY ISSUED ORDER
VII. NEW BUSINESS
VIII. CONSENT AGENDA
A. REQUEST TO FORWARD CASES TO COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS REFERENCED IN
SUBMITTED EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
IX. REPORTS
9.1. CESD20160015129 Flores Salceiro and Terra Trust LLC
X. COMMENTS
XI. NEXT MEETING DATE - THURSDAY JUNE 28, 2018 AT 9:00 A.M.
XII. ADJOURN
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning, everybody.
I'd like to call the Code Enforcement Board to order.
Notice: Respondents may be limited to 20 minutes for case
presentation unless time is granted by the Board. Persons wishing to
speak on any agenda item will receive up to five minutes time unless
the time is adjusted by the Chairman.
All parties participating in the public hearing are asked to observe
Robert's Rules of Order and speak one at a time so that the court
reporter can record all statements being made.
Any person who decides to appeal a decision of this board will
need a record of the proceedings pertaining thereto and, therefore, may
need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made,
which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the
appeal is to be based. Neither Collier County nor the Code
Enforcement Board shall be responsible for providing this record.
Now, before we begin, if you have a cell phone, and I know you
all do, now is a good time to turn it off.
And if you'll all rise for the pledge.
(The Pledge of Allegiance was recited in unison.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Can we have the roll call.
MR. BLANCO: Mr. Robert Kaufman?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Here.
MR. BLANCO: Gerald Lefebvre?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Here.
MR. BLANCO: Mr. Lionel L'Esperance?
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Here.
MR. BLANCO: Mr. Ronald Doino?
MR. DIONO: Here.
MR. BLANCO: Mr. Robert Ashton?
MR. ASHTON: Here.
MR. BLANCO: Ms. Sue Curley?
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MS. CURLEY: Here.
MR. BLANCO: Ms. Kathleen Elrod?
MS. ELROD: Here.
MR. BLANCO: Mr. Ryan White?
MR. WHITE: Here.
Mr. Herminio Ortega is absent.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So we need a person for
Herminio's voting, and that would be Kathy this time.
We hearing comments from the peanut gallery. Okay.
Anybody have any problem with the minutes that were posted?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: If not, I'll take a motion to approve
the minutes.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Motion to approve.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
MS. CURLEY: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Okay. We have a few changes?
MR. BLANCO: Yes, sir. Roman Numeral 5, public
hearings/motions, Letter A, motion for continuance, we have two
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additions. Number 8 from hearings, Case No. CESD20170018508,
AV Vision LLC.
Number 3 from hearings, Case No. CESD20170001888, Alberto
Hernandez, P.A.
Letter B, stipulations, we have five additions. The first one is No.
12 from hearings, Case No. CEV20180006549, Eduardo Rodriguez
and Maria Rodriguez.
The next one is No. 13 from hearings, Case No.
CESD20180006392, Eduardo Rodriguez and Maria Rodriguez.
Number 1 from hearings, Case No. CELU20180005366, Julio
Garcia.
Number 10, Case No. CESD20170011238, Caryn McGrath.
Number 5, Case No. CESD20170017000, David Espinosa.
Roman Numeral 5, public hearings/motions, Letter C, hearings,
No. 4, Case No. CEV2018002623, Glenstal Abbey, LLC, has been
withdrawn.
Number 6, Case No. CENA20170014563, Utopia East Trail,
LLC, has been withdrawn.
Number 9, Case No. CESD20170012456, Waste Services of
Florida, Incorporated, has been withdrawn.
Number 15 Case No. CENA20180001626, Philip R. Carr, has
been withdrawn.
Number 17, Case No. CELU20170018920, Janice Anderson, has
been withdrawn.
Roman Numeral 6, old business, Letter A, motion for imposition
of fines/liens, No. 1, Case No. CESD20160011175, Maria O. Jimenez,
has been withdrawn.
Number 3, Case No. CESD20170008234, 11222 Tamiami, LLC,
has been withdrawn.
Number 5, Case No. CESD20160020044, Teresa Scoppettone,
has been withdrawn.
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And that's all the changes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Get a motion to approve the agenda
as modified?
MR. DOINO: Motion to approve.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and second. All
those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Okay. Danny, would you like to start with the motion for
continuances.
MR. BLANCO: Yes. The first item on the agenda, it's No. 10
from hearings, Case No. CESD20170011238, Caryn Mary McGrath.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Could you state your name on the
microphone for the record, please.
MS. McGRATH: Caryn McGrath.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And are you going to be
testifying also?
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: I'm her wife Angie. We have the
property together.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So you state --
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: I kind of was the one who was
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instrumental in this part, talking to Jonathan.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I'm looking at your request
here. You're trying to permit a house after Hurricane Irma.
MS. NICOLA: I have a point of clarification. I'm looking at a
stipulation that was apparently signed, so why are we having a request
for a continuance if we have a signed stipulation? That's what I'm
confused about a little bit. I mean, I think if you sign a stipulation, you
waive your request for a continuance, in my opinion.
MS. CURLEY: The violation occurred July 3rd.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah, before the storm, but that's
neither here nor there right now.
MS. NICOLA: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We'll wait till Danny gets finished
with his conference, and --
MR. LEFEBVRE: I saw that, too.
MS. NICOLA: Right.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Let's hear the stipulation.
MR. MUSSE: Oh, did you want to hear the stip, or did you want
to talk to Danny?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, just on this. Why -- Tami
brought up, why are we hearing a request for -- to give more time if
they've already signed a stipulation?
MR. BLANCO: Mr. Chairman, the stipulation was signed today,
so it wasn't on the agenda as a motion for continuance.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So we can eliminate the motion for
continuance?
MR. BLANCO: Correct, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So you show that as withdrawn?
MR. BLANCO: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Good.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Are we going to hear the stipulation first?
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We're going to hear the stipulation
on --
MS. NICOLA: We're going to hear your stipulation but not the
continuance.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hold on. Hold on.
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: Tell us what to do.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The first thing, we follow the
agenda, and that was we hear the requests for extensions first, so this is
going to be canceled. And after we hear all the extension cases, then
we hear the next batch, which would be the stipulations, and that's your
case. It will be in the stipulations. So don't go far.
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: So we'll just -- we'll sit back down.
MS. NICOLA: It will just be a few minutes. Sorry about that.
MR. BLANCO: Mr. Chairman, we have an additional change to
the agenda.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You're only allowed a couple today.
MR. BLANCO: Roman Numeral 5, public hearings/motions,
Letter C, hearings, No. 3, Case No. CESD20170001888, Alberto
Hernandez, P.A., has been withdrawn.
MS. NICOLA: So that removes another motion for continuance.
MR. BLANCO: Correct.
MS. NICOLA: Which would also be a change to the agenda, so
there's two.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I know. We voted on the first one.
We'll do the second now.
MS. NICOLA: Okay. I just want to be sure. I was worried a
little bit.
MS. CURLEY: Thank you.
MS. NICOLA: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Not my first rodeo.
Okay. We have changes to the agenda. We'll take a motion to
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accept them.
MR. ASHTON: Motion to accept the changes.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and second. All
those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
MR. BLANCO: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Any more changes, Danny?
MR. BLANCO: No, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. BLANCO: ***Next item on the agenda, it's Case No.
CESD20170003341, Eliseo Viamonte.
MR. ASHTON: What number, Danny?
MS. CURLEY: What number, Danny?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It's number two on the motion for
continuance.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do we have a letter on this
requesting the -- is that in the case itself?
MR. BLANCO: It should be in the packet you received on the
computer.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: On the computer, okay.
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MR. BLANCO: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: CS what?
MR. BLANCO: It's Case No. CESD20170003341.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: For us it's a lot easier if you give us
the first numbers rather than us looking through all of those --
MS. CURLEY: 5.A.2.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Yes, that's much easier.
Give us a minute. We're reading through it.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Is this the one where your wife had possession
of the house?
MR. VIAMONTE: Yes, sir. Not anymore.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Well, no.
MS. CURLEY: Congratulations.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Small victory.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I remember now.
Okay. You're looking to -- you didn't get in there until our last
meeting, as I recall, and you've been working diligently there, I
assume.
MR. VIAMONTE: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And the county says?
MS. PULSE: For the record, Dee Pulse, Collier County Code
Enforcement. The county has no objection for more time.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Has there been progress made
since?
MS. PULSE: Yes. He's been working with an engineer. He
applied for a permit on May 15th, and it's in the review status.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And how much time do you think
you need?
MR. VIAMONTE: I think I need at least three months more
because I don't know how the process works, if they're going to re-call
something that I have to fix again or -- just want at least three months.
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Everything is done, but I just need the correct time to not have to go
back in and ask for more time.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Is anyone living there now?
MR. VIAMONTE: Hmm?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Is anyone living there now?
MR. VIAMONTE: Me and my son.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: In that space that was in question?
This was a garage conversion; is that correct?
MR. VIAMONTE: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is anybody living in that garage
conversion?
MR. VIAMONTE: No. The thing is -- the utilities have been cut
off, the water supply, the electricity, the A/C. Now I'm doing
modification, conversion of the garage in game room, so that's what
I'm going to apply for; modification in process now.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You think you can get that all done
in three months, right?
MR. VIAMONTE: Yes. The documents have been submitted
already, so --
MR. LEFEBVRE: A motion to continue would keep the fines
running, correct?
MS. NICOLA: (Nods head.)
MR. LEFEBVRE: I make a motion to continue for 120 days.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: I'll second that.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a motion and a
second to grant a continuance until -- I don't know what the date is, but
that's four months.
MS. NICOLA: September 20th.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's four months.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Give you a little extra time just in case.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It's either that or he couldn't figure
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out that three months is 90 days. Well, that's another story.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Well, if you had to bring that up.
MS. CURLY: I'd say Answer No. 2.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a motion and a
second. All those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
MR. VIAMONTE: Thank you. Appreciate it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We'll see you in four months.
MR. VIAMONTE: Thank you.
MR. BLANCO: ***Next item on the agenda is No. 8 from
hearings, Case No. CESD20170018508, AV Vision, LLC.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MR. LEFEBVRE: And you have a letter here.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Email.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: "Due to some time issues"...
Now, the violation on this, if you'll help me, is?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Alterations/additions commenced without
obtaining proper Collier County building permits.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So the way I understand this
is, correct me if I'm wrong, you're going to get a building permit to
accept what's been done so it will be a permit by affidavit; is that
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correct?
MR. AZAVEDO: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Were you the property owner
of this before this was done, the alterations?
MR. AZAVEDO: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You see the problem that you're
going to run into there is the county changed their rules, and it says if
you're the property owner when the violation occurred, they don't -- I
don't know if they won't, but they don't issue permits by affidavit.
MS. CURLEY: Wait. I don't think he understood that question.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Did you own the property
prior to the alterations being done? Did you do the alterations that
were not permitted?
MR. AZAVEDO: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Then I did understand it.
MS. CURLEY: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Now, according to our expert on the
board, who's not here today, he said that if you're the one that did it,
then you can't get a permit by affidavit.
Now, that's not up to me. That's not up to code. But you're going
to find out what the deal is as you go by, so don't be surprised if that
happens.
MR. AZAVEDO: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So for two weeks -- we go by
months. So our next meeting is a month from now. So if we grant an
extension, it might as well be for one month instead of two weeks.
You have applied for a permit?
MR. AZAVEDO: We are finishing everything so we can submit
the application for the permitting, and we believe that we're going to be
ready in two weeks.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. What's the original NOV on
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this?
MR. LEFEBVRE: The 28th of November, last year.
MS. McGONAGLE: Yeah. Service was given on November 29,
2017.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So from November --
December, January, February, March, April; that was six months ago
-- what's been done?
MR. AZAVEDO: We've been working on it. We've been -- I've
been going to the -- and I have been dealing with Renald Paul and been
going to the -- and talking to him and explaining to him what we've
been doing to try to get everything done as far as the change that we're
making.
First what we've done at the -- what I've done -- because of the
hurricane, we had the water intrusion, and we had to remove
everything. That's why we start doing the -- everything. It was just
removing of old cabinets because they had a lot of mold, and that's
when everything started. That's why we start doing what we're doing.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So there was no demo permit issued?
MR. AZAVEDO: Yeah.
MS. McGONAGLE: Correct.
MR. AZAVEDO: There was no demo, just because we had the
water intrusion, and we had the mold, and that's why we tried to get
everything out as quick as possible, and we didn't -- of course, I didn't
know I should be pulling a permit to do demolition. That's basically --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is that the only permit that's in
question now is the demo permit?
MS. McGONAGLE: Well -- and the permit for the alterations.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: For the alterations?
MS. McGONAGLE: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: For the alterations.
I believe what's going to happen, if we grant a continuance for
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one month, I have a feeling that you're going to be back here again, but
that's not up to me. That's up to the Building Department.
Any comments from the Board?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Is the house all put back together? Is that
what --
MR. AZAVEDO: No. It's still the same. We haven't done
anything since we got the notice. It was left me a notice at my door.
The house has been sitting exactly the same. Nothing has been done to
the house.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So getting permits and everything at this point
--
MR. AZAVEDO: Yes.
MR. LEFEBVRE: -- wouldn't be that difficult?
MS. CURLEY: So the only thing -- the requirement is, is that he
get the permit, and then after that this case is closed before us?
MR. LEFEBVRE: No. You have to CO it or certificate of
completion.
MS. CURLEY: He needs a year.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, we don't know where that's
going to be until the next step happens.
MR. LEFEBVRE: What's the scope of work? Has drywall been
removed? Where are you right now?
MR. AZAVEDO: Yes, drywall has been removed. The tile has
been removed. Old cabinets been removed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And you applied for a demo permit?
MR. AZAVEDO: Yes.
MS. CURLEY: And what about the restrooms; are they intact or
no?
MR. AZAVEDO: No. They -- we removed every -- we
demolished one as well. We're fixing up one as well; redoing, actually.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me --
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MR. LEFEBVRE: This is going to take --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Jeff -- well, if we grant what's --
we're here to hear the request for a continuation, okay. So if we grant a
continuation, you'll be back in a month, and we'll probably be in the
same position we are now, but we'll have a little bit more information.
Are you familiar with what I said about doing a permit by
affidavit?
MR. LETOURNEAU: I am. You're correct. If the person that
did it is the owner of the property, they have to go through the full bore
and get a regular permit. If they buy a piece of property that already
had the violation on it, they can do a permit by affidavit.
I would say -- my computer's not functioning correctly this
morning, but I don't see a demo permit. You mentioned that you had
applied for --
MR. AZAVEDO: No, not --
MR. LETOURNEAU: Okay. All right. The county's opinion is
we'd rather hear the case now and, you know, give him some time if
we get a -- you know, find a violation at this point rather than a
continuance.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Because all we'd be doing is
delaying it a month for no reason.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Correct. I'd like to -- you know, I mean,
NOV was issued in November. Here we are five months later. Not
even a demo permit's been issued, so...
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Well, do we have any other
comments from the Board?
MS. CURLEY: There wasn't any special timelines or anything
for hurricane damage, for things like this where you were exempt from
certain permitting or, like -- you know, if he had waited for his
demolition permit, you know, the house would have been toxic and
moldy?
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I believe there was -- they gave extra
time for roof repairs.
MS. CURLEY: That's it, roof?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: As far as I know.
MR. LETOURNEAU: We were expecting him to pull a demo
permit right from the get-go. That would have gave him six months
right there to, you know, at least -- he already stated all the stuff's out
of there, so I don't understand why the demo permit couldn't have been
pulled and CO'ed at this point and be working on the building permit at
this juncture.
MS. CURLEY: So how do you do a permit by affidavit for
demo? I mean, it's demoed.
MR. LETOURNEAU: He can't do a permit by affidavit. He has
to -- he comes down here, gets a normal demo permit, they come down
there, inspect the demolition, put a CO on it, then he starts working on
his building permit.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Let me bring us back to the
case. We have a request for an extension. Does anybody want to make
a motion on the request for the extension?
MR. LEFEBVRE: He's not going to have a certificate of
completion in two weeks, so an extension for two weeks would be --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So you're making a motion to deny
the request for extension?
MR. LEFEBVRE: I'm thinking about making an extension or
continuance for a period that would be more reasonable, or is it the --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, the county said let's hear the
case.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion to deny the extension of time.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: And I will second that.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: (No verbal response.)
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Okay. We're going to hear the case, so -- when it comes up in the
next order of business, and at that time we should be able to resolve it
so you'll know where you're going down the road better than you
would if you just went for two weeks or a month.
MR. AZAVEDO: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So this one's done.
MR. AZAVEDO: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Don't go far.
MR. BLANCO: Mr. Chairman, we have an additional change to
the agenda.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I told you you're only allowed a
couple of those. Hang on one second.
Okay. Yes, Danny.
MR. BLANCO: Roman Numeral 5, public hearings/motions,
Letter B, stipulations, we have three additions.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. BLANCO: Number 14 from hearings.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. BLANCO: Case No. CESD20170016916, Neysis
Rodriguez.
Number 16 from hearings, Case No. CESD20170001107, Magaly
Gonzalez.
Number 11 from hearings, Case No. CESD20180000309,
Scherley Fonsea Vasquez and Maria Tania Toirac Arburola, and that's
all the changes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Get a motion to modify the agenda.
MR. DIONO: Motion to identify.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And a second. All those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
I don't say these as fast as Mark Strain, but I'm trying.
MR. BLANCO: ***Next item on the agenda, it's Roman
Numeral 5, public hearings/motions, Letter A, motions, motion for
extension of time, No. 3, Case No. CESD20170001654 Helen
Braughman.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It takes us longer to do this now. We
have a new streamlined process.
What was the violation?
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MR. MUCHA: I believe it was three unpermitted structures.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And the NOV was done
November?
MS. CURLEY: You remember this.
MR. MUCHA: It was quite some time ago.
MS. CURLEY: These were on there for like, 20, 30 years, these
structures.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Right.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Forty.
MS. CURLEY: Forty.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I do remember.
Okay. Good morning.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Could you state your name on the
record.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Helen Braughman.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I'm reading your request for
additional time.
Okay. From the county?
MR. MUCHA: For the record, Joe Mucha, Collier County Code
Enforcement. We leave it to the discretion of the Board.
MS. CURLEY: Sounds like you've had a tough half a year.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me ask, those three structures
that are on the property, are they being utilized now, or are they just
sitting there?
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Mostly just storage. And I went to the
people that I bought the property from, and that one, the big -- the
house has been there almost 40 years. I've owned the property almost
40 years, and it's been there all this time. It's not being used or
anything like that. It is just storage.
But they said that they didn't have any -- they don't know why it
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wasn't grandfathered in, and I told them nobody knows anything about
grandfathering anymore. I don't understand. I'm sort of lost.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you have somebody that's
helping you with this?
MS. BRAUGHMAN: No. I just went to the people that I bought
the property from.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: And that's what they said. Because it was
there long, long before I bought the property, and then there was a
modular home put up, and that's what all the permits and everything is
for is for that one. But the other one they said had to be grandfathered
in or something or they couldn't have sold it. That was their excuse,
but I don't know.
MS. CURLEY: Sounds good.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you have any idea of how much
time you need to get all this --
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Well, as I said, everybody has been so
busy with the hurricane, and I haven't had anybody to help me. And
I've had a few things removed and stuff, and I did get my roof patched
on the big house just before the big rain.
So it's been coming along very slowly on account of everybody
else helping everybody else get in where they need to get in.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Have you been out to the
property?
MR. MUCHA: I haven't been out there recently. We did have a
meeting a few months ago. I brought her in. We met with Renald
Paul and, actually, one of the environmental people as well, because I
think there was issues with, I think, maybe clearing too much, you
know, for the structures and things like that. So I've been trying to
help her do what I can, but...
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Was this a complaint from --
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MR. MUCHA: This came from the Sheriff's Office.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And what was -- they just spotted it?
I guess, maybe with a lot of the trees coming down, they couldn't see
there before or --
MR. MUCHA: I'm not exactly sure the nature of why they turned
it in to us. I didn't have custody of the case when it began. I've kind of
taken it over now.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You've got some help.
MR. AMBACH: Good morning. For the record --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hold on.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MR. AMBACH: For the record, Chris Ambach, Collier County
Code Enforcement.
I met -- originally met with the sergeant for that district who
advised that the structures out there were being used for drug dealing
and drug activity. That's how we received the complaint.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. That answers a lot of
questions. I don't know -- are you aware of what was going on out
there?
MS. BRAUGHMAN: No.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Does the Sheriff ever talk to you?
MS. BRAUGHMAN: No. He come there after my grandson one
time, and he's put in a complaint all over Copeland. And he said he
was going to clean this place up, but the drug dealing is down on the
corner; not my house.
MR. LETOURNEAU: I'd like to point out also that we do --
there was a stipulation signed for six months.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And it was signed when, six
months ago?
MR. LETOURNEAU: Yeah. It's November 17th. Yeah,
basically a little bit over six months ago.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And the stipulation said that the
buildings would be either permitted or removed?
MR. LETOURNEAU: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: That was just before the hurricane.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: November was after the hurricane.
It was November?
MR. LETOURNEAU: Yeah, it was like, what, two months after
the hurricane.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Was it? Okay.
MS. CURLEY: September 10th.
MS. NICOLA: November 17th.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I know when the hurricane was.
Believe me, I know when the hurricane was.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Well...
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Do we have any comments
from the Board? And what we have in front of us is the respondent is
asking for additional time. I don't know how much time. I don't think
the respondent at this point knows how much time.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Not really, but I did ask for six months.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Comments from the Board
for the extension of time? We have a small conference.
MS. CURLEY: I mean, this is unfortunate.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I couldn't agree with you more.
MS. CURLEY: It's terrible because --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you think you may be able to
make more progress in six months?
MS. BRAUGHMAN: I think so. Like I say, they're getting more
together. They are in my community now helping. The Red Cross
thing, and there's another one there that's helping. And I'm on the list,
so hopefully they'll --
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MS. CURLEY: Is your grandson still there where he can assist
you, or is he just visiting?
MS. BRAUGHMAN: He's -- he turned 18 the 19th of April, and
--
MS. CURLEY: I'd get out of Copeland, too, if the Sheriff was
chasing me around.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: He's had it rough with him. Well, when
the guy came on he said, "I'm going to clean this place up." I'm like,
"Excuse me?"
MS. CURLEY: Well, he can help you.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Yeah. I wish he would have helped me.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you want to make a motion?
MS. CURLEY: I would like to make a motion to extend the --
can we do this, extend the stipulation for an additional six months and
--
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do a continuance?
MS. CURLEY: Okay. Sorry. Continuance for six more months
--
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Appreciate it.
MS. CURLEY: -- and that should be very helpful for --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You can revisit it at that time.
MS. CURLEY: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's your motion. Do we have a
second?
MR. DOINO: I'll second it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a second. So we
have a motion and a second to grant the respondent's request for six
months' continuance.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
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MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Thank you so much.
MR. BLANCO: Mr. Chairman.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yes.
MR. BLANCO: Just to clarify, the respondent submitted a
motion for extension of time. So we're denying that and, instead, we're
granting a continuance, correct?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, I think in her request for a
continuance, she's asked for six minutes in the letter here; isn't that
correct?
MR. BLANCO: No, it is, but she -- it's on the agenda as an
extension of time. An extension of time is when the fines stop
accruing and we -- you know, we grant a new compliance date. So
we're denying the respondent's motion for extension of time and
instead granting a continuance?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I have no problem with that.
MS. CURLEY: So the fines are stopping or no?
MR. BLANCO: With a continuance the fines would continue to
accrue.
MS. CURLEY: Yeah.
MS. NICOLA: I normally draft these up as simple orders to
continue, though. It wouldn't normally say the request for extension of
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time was denied and that the continuance was granted. So that's how I
normally draft them if that's okay with everybody. Okay? Okay,
great.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay with me. Okay.
MS. NICOLA: Just for the record, it will be -- November 20th
would be the continuation date, and because there's not a meeting in
December, it at least seems to me that she might have just a little bit
more time. But hopefully you'll use that time wisely.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Yes. When's the next meeting; do you
know?
MS. NICOLA: In November.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Yes.
MS. NICOLA: Yep.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Thanksgiving time, in that
area.
MS. BRAUGHMAN: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Thank you.
That finishes, unless I'm mistaken, the motions for continuances.
MR. BLANCO: That's correct.
***The next item on the agenda, it's No. 12 from hearings, Case
No. CEV20180006549, Eduardo Rodriguez and Maria Rodriguez. We
actually have two cases, the same respondent.
The next one, No. 13, Case No. CESD20180006392, Eduardo
Rodriguez and Maria Rodriguez.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. The first one is for -- we will
vote on them separately, but the first one is for vehicles and equipment
parked -- stored on the property. What's the description of the
violation on the second case?
MR. BLANCO: It's unpermitted wood structures, metal carport,
and concrete columns on residential property.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We'll hear that separately. So
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this is the case we're hearing right now. Okay.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You have a stipulation. Do
you want to read this into the record for us?
MS. McGONAGLE: Yes, sir. Good morning, for the record,
Investigator Michelle McGonagle, Collier County Code Enforcement.
Therefore, it is agreed between the parties that the respondent
shall pay operational costs in the amount of $59.42 incurred in the
prosecution of this case within 30 days of this hearing.
Number 2, abate all violations by storing commercial vehicles
and equipment in rear yard and concealed from view within a
completely enclosed structure, or remove from residentially zoned
property within seven days of this hearing, or a fine of $100 per day
will be imposed until the violation is abated.
Number 3, respondent must notify Code Enforcement within 24
hours of abatement of the violation and request the investigator to
perform a site visit to confirm compliance.
Number 4, that if the respondent fails to abate the violation, the
county may abate the violation using any method to bring the violation
into compliance and may use the assistance of the Collier County
Sheriff's Office to enforce the provisions of this agreement, and all
costs of abatement shall be assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Thank you.
Do you understand the agreement that --
MR. RODRIGUEZ: A little, but not too much.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me explain what -- all the
mumbo jumbo that was read over there. If you don't understand me,
tell me.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: What she said is you have to pay a
fine within the next month of $59.42.
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MR. RODRIGUEZ: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's one. You have to move those
vehicles, or whatever the complaint is, behind the structure so that they
can't be seen; they're behind the house, not in front of the house.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Excuse me. Whatever they say in the paper,
it only one big truck.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Is that correct?
MS. McGONAGLE: No, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: What else is there besides a big
truck?
MS. McGONAGLE: There's a bunch of other commercial
vehicle equipment and tools, an air compressor, miscellaneous
commercial equipment.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Can you get all of that moved
behind also?
MR. RODRIGUEZ: I can't put it behind my house, all this kind
of stuff. You know, I no use it to work, so it only stay right there. The
compressor, whatever you mentioned, the air compression, only using
-- no using it, no run it, so just put it -- I buy (sic) it but no run it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, then you either need to get rid
of it or put it behind the house.
MS. McGONAGLE: Sir, if I may --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: But that -- what?
MS. McGONAGLE: It is behind the house, but they live on a
corner lot, so it is visible from the side street.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: There is no back then.
MR. LETOURNEAU: It has to be concealed also.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. It has to be concealed. If he
can put a tarp over it, would that do? No.
MR. LETOURNEAU: No. You're going to have to -- it's either
going to have to be removed from the property or conceal it. I mean,
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so when you're walking from a legal vantage point you can't see it, and
a tarp's not going to do it at this point.
MS. CURLEY: What about a fence?
MR. LETOURNEAU: They do have a fence around maybe half
of the property, but in residential areas like this, it is -- you can only
build a 4-foot fence in the front area, so even walking from the street,
you're still going to be able to see it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So what you signed, which you may
not agree to at this time, we'll find out, is --
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- the stuff that was there --
MR. RODRIGUEZ: I move it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- you're going to put vanishing
cream on it somehow, and it's going to disappear.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Okay. So I'll move it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You can do that in a week?
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Yep.
MS. CURLEY: So I --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Let me finish. And if you
don't do it in a week, it's going to cost you $100 a day. Okay.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: I understand, sir. Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Now, Sue.
MS. CURLEY: So I'm looking at the original violation. First it
says -- No. 5 says, date violation first observed, April 24th, 2018.
They were given notice on April 25th, and then they had a week to
correct it, and then they were reinspected, and now they're here. I
mean, why is this -- this is not life or death. There's no children or fire
safety involved. Why did this, like -- why did this person not get 30
days? This is probably some work equipment or something like that. I
mean, this is, like, hyper --
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Excuse me.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: This is -- this is -- let me --
MS. CURLEY: To me this seems like this is not really very
much time just for him to get the notice. I mean, if he gets the notice
Monday, he's working. By Friday he's reading it, and then by the next
Monday he's already in trouble. I mean, it's not like this is a, really,
you know, life-or-death situation here. And now we give seven days?
I mean --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We don't -- we don't do the
inspections. We are here to hear the cases. And in this particular case
--
MS. CURLEY: Right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- the respondent agreed to this
stipulation. So that's what we're talking about --
MS. CURLEY: Of course he agreed, because that's what he's
being told to agree to, but it doesn't seem like it's a reasonable amount
of time for any working family to re-accommodate all of equipment
which probably is used for their week or lifestyle or their job or
whatever. It just seems like now he's got seven days?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yes, Eric.
MS. CURLEY: It seems like it's also a little heavy handed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Eric?
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MR. SHORT: For the record, Supervisor Eric Short, Collier
County Code Enforcement.
To answer your question, Ms. Curley, this is a simple correction.
We're not asking them to pull permits, get an engineer, an architect,
anything like that. It's moving some commercial equipment from a
property.
As you're all aware, that the residential --
MS. CURLEY: So this is -- we've run across this before where
now all of a sudden you're enforcing these codes that have been
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existing, and these people have tractors and trailers that they have to go
rent space for and accommodate expenses that they don't normally
have to locate their work vehicles off their residential neighborhood.
So it is a big deal when you --
MR. SHORT: And this is, like you said, a residential
neighborhood, not a place where commercial equipment is permitted.
MS. CURLEY: So how many years has this equipment been
parked there?
MR. SHORT: We've had multiple cases on this property, and
we've escalated it to a hearing, and they've agreed to a stipulation.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Were they in front of us one other time with,
like, metal canopies and so forth a couple years?
MR. SHORT: This would have been back in 2014.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. The gist of this all is the
respondent now understands what the stipulation is, and he has agreed
to it; is that correct?
MR. RODRIGUEZ: I didn't understand whatever you said there.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Tell me what you don't understand
and we'll --
MR. LEFEBVRE: What he said.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: What Eric said. He said that this is a
simple thing to fix. You don't need a permit. All you need to do is
remove the stuff.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: I see. I already signed it. I remove
everything.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. ASHTON: He agreed to it.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: I have another question.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion to accept --
MS. CURLEY: He has a question.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You have questions?
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Yes. For my little dogs, I have four dogs for
my sons. I'm building small houses --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We'll get to that. Okay. That's the
next case. We just want to take care of this one first, okay?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion to approve the stipulated
agreement as stated with the operational cost of $59.42 to be paid
within 30 days.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second to
accept the stipulation as written. Any comments on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Okay. That takes care of this one. And if you don't understand,
maybe I'm easier to understand.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: That's okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: My Spanish is not so good, but my
wife's is, and she talks to me all the time.
Okay. Now you want to read the next case into the record,
Danny?
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MR. BLANCO: Yes, sir.
***Next item on the agenda is No. 13 from hearings, Case No.
CESD20180006392, Eduardo Rodriguez and Maria L. Rodriguez.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And we have a stipulation on
this as well.
(The speakers were previously duly sworn and indicated in the
affirmative.)
MS. McGONAGLE: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Would you read the
stipulation into the record, please.
MS. McGONAGLE: Therefore, it is agreed between the parties
that the respondent shall, No. 1, pay operational costs in the amount of
$59.56 incurred in the prosecution of this case within 30 days of this
hearing.
Number 2, abate all violations by obtaining all required Collier
County building permits or demolition permit, inspections, and
certificate of completion/occupancy for the unpermitted structures,
metal carport, and concrete columns within 60 days of this hearing, or
a fine of $200 per day will be imposed until the violation is abated.
Number 3, respondent must notify Code Enforcement within 24
hours of abatement of the violation and request the investigator
perform a site inspection to confirm compliance.
Number 4, that if the respondent fails to abate the violation, the
county may abate the violation using any method to bring the violation
into compliance and may use the assistance of the Collier County
Sheriff's Office to enforce the provisions of this agreement, and all
costs of abatement shall be assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And the fine after 60 days
was how much?
MS. McGONAGLE: $59.56.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No, no. That's the --
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MS. McGONAGLE: Oh, I'm sorry, $200.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Two hundred dollars a day. So just
so I understand it, he has some buildings, structures, or something
there that were put up without a permit; is that correct?
MS. McGONAGLE: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I just wanted to understand
what it is.
MS. McGONAGLE: There's three separate items. He has
numerous wooden structures on the left side of the house, there's a
metal car port in the driveway, and two concrete columns built on
either side at the end of the driveway.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So there's two concrete --
MS. CURLEY: Like monuments? Like monuments to enter into
the driveway?
MS. McGONAGLE: Yeah. They're concrete block columns that
are about yay tall.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Four feet.
MS. CURLEY: Is there anything in it?
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Four feet tall.
MS. CURLEY: Is there something in them?
MS. McGONAGLE: I don't know. They just look like concrete
blocks that were --
MS. CURLEY: That's not a structure then.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LETOURNEAU: It was determined by our building official
that they were structures and required permits.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So here we are. You have --
I know you want to tell me something about four dogs.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: My four dogs. I make little houses behind
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my house. About five years ago, the county come into my house. You
supposed to be building one small house for the dog. I do it. Later on I
build it for my son. I have four small dogs. Build about maybe six
feet; little houses. Make this much (indicating) concrete, about two
inches in the bottom, and put a silt fence in the sides and make it -- in
the top put plywood and put shingles. That's it. No metal, no nothing.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And you have one of those or
four of those?
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Four small houses.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Four dog houses?
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Yeah, about four by four, something like
this.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So the county has come to
you and asked you to either get a permit for those dog houses -- and
I'm assuming they provide permits for that. I don't know who the --
MR. LETOURNEAU: They -- depending on setbacks,
obviously. I'm looking at the pictures right now. I'm not sure that
they're going to meet setbacks.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So let me give you my
suggestion on this. It may be very difficult for us to really understand
it without hearing the case, so -- but that's up to you. If you want --
what we're here to determine right now, since you signed a stipulation
-- and if you say, no, I don't agree to it, we'll hear the case. You agreed
to pay $59.56 --
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- within 30 days, and you either get
those buildings permitted or removed within 60 days. Okay. That's
what -- and if you don't do it within 60 days, it's a $200-a-day fine.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: I understand, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: My question is, you want me to buy the
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permit to build it, a small house for the dogs?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well --
MS. CURLEY: They want it (indicating).
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Me personally, no.
MS. CURLEY: Not you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: But the county has rules, and some
of the rules are you can't build structures without permits, number one.
Number two, you couldn't put a structure right on your property line,
probably; that's what I'm hearing. So I don't know how close the dog
houses are to the property lines.
We don't know any of that. All we know is the stipulation that
you agreed to. So that's why I'm saying you may want to agree to this,
or you may not want to agree to it. If you don't agree to this, we will
hear the case, and we will see pictures of the buildings, and we'll go
from there. So that's up to you.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: No, it's okay. I agree, you know. But I
want to go to the county and see -- talk to the permit.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Well, if we hear the case, we
will entertain your requests as long -- as well as the county's for how
much time you need to go to the county and pull building permits and
stuff like that.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: I put today. I don't need time. Only I want
to make sure, you know, for the dogs. Just want to make a permit. So
I know everybody in the -- is happy -- a small house for the dogs. So I
mean, I want to go today, check it out, see what's --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So let me get back to the
question.
Do you want to accept this agreement?
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You do?
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Yes, sir.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And, let me say, if you don't
have enough time based on what the county tells you, you can come
back here and request more time.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So we have a stipulation in
front of us. Anybody like to make a motion?
MR. ASHTON: Make a motion to accept the stipulation as
written.
MS. ELROD: Second.
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second.
Any discussion on the motion?
MS. CURLEY: I have a little discussion on it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Give me --
MS. CURLEY: I mean, he's made it pretty clear that he wants to
investigate the probability of keeping these structures, so we know that
60 days isn't going to assist him in that. So could we just extend that to
90 or --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No. The stipulation is written, and
in order to change it you have to go back out to the hall and do all of
that.
Now, I said, if he -- if the 60 days is not sufficient, he has the
ability to come back before the Board and request additional time.
MS. CURLEY: Yeah, for $59 --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Or maybe the county could --
MS. CURLEY: It's going to cost him $59.56 to return here. So I
was just trying to do him a favor and give him enough time to do what
he needs to do, or then demo them. But 60 days, to me, just didn't
seem like enough if he wanted to really go for the -- figure out why
monuments on the way into your driveway and why a doghouse needs
to be permitted.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Jeff, you're dying to say something.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Well, I mean, they're not monuments.
They're attachments. They're attachments to the fence. They're --
they're definitely structures per the Florida Building Code.
I guarantee, looking at these pictures, he goes down in one day
and they're going to tell him that they don't meet setbacks because
they're right on the property line. So I'm not the official to make that
determination, but I would stick my neck out and say they're going to
tell him, the first site of those pictures, that they're going to have to
move those things.
MS. CURLEY: So, really, his only choice is to demolish them.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Well, I think he could probably move
them to another part of the property.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Any other discussion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: See if he has any other questions.
MS. NICOLA: Guys, the hearing's over. They've already ruled.
We're done.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you have any other questions for
me? Go ahead.
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MR. RODRIGUEZ: All I want to make sure, see --
MS. de la POZ: How many feet does he need?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The Building Department will tell
you.
MR. RODRIGUEZ: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good luck.
MS. CURLEY: Thank you.
MS. de la POZ: Thank you.
MR. BLANCO: Mr. Chairman, under Roman Numeral 9,
reports, we have one case that the county would like to hear now so the
respondent might leave a little bit earlier, if you don't mind.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So you want to change the
agenda?
MR. BLANCO: No, no. It's on the agenda. We would just like
to hear the case before we continue with the stipulations.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'm going to give a humor transplant.
Yes, that's okay, Danny. No problem.
MR. BLANCO: ***Okay. Next item on the agenda, it's Roman
Numeral 9, reports, Number 9.1, Case No. CESD20160015129, Luis
Flores Salceiro and Terra Trust, LLC. The Board requested the
respondent to give a status report every three months.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I didn't hear an "I do."
MS. de la POZ: Say I do.
MR. SALCIERO: I do.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I watch.
MS. NICOLA: I'm worried about what's in the bag. People come
into my office with a big bag like that and...
MS. de la POZ: Papers.
MS. NICOLA: In a big bag?
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Could you state your name
on the microphone for us.
MR. SALCIERO: Luis Flores Salceiro.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And if you're acting as translator,
you have to be sworn and separately.
(The interpreter was duly sworn to translate from English to
Spanish and Spanish to English to the best of her ability and indicated
in the affirmative.)
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MS. de la POZ: It's not perfect. Good enough? I'm Jacqueline
de la Poz (phonetic).
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It's perfect. The only one who
would know that you're not translating it perfectly would be Danny,
but he's not allowed to tell you, so...
He didn't hear me either, obviously.
MS. NICOLA: I don't think he was listening.
MR. LETOURNEAU: I'm sorry. I'm looking at the case right
here. What was the question?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Never mind. We're past you already
on that one.
Okay. So you have a report for us to tell us what you've done in
the last three months on the violation.
THE INTERPRETER: Yes.
MS. GIGUERE: Would the Board mind if I gave the report on
his behalf? We spoke before the hearing. It might be a little bit easier.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Absolutely.
MS. GIGUERE: Good morning. For the record, Vicky Giguere,
Collier County Code Enforcement.
So this is in regards to some clearing on a property that was done
without permits. Since the original hearing for this property, he has
received a building permit for a residence. It was issued back in
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March. It was originally applied for at the end of last year, and it was
rejected because he was missing the required letter from DEP for
exemption.
He's since then submitted that. It was approved by DEP. They
shifted the property over a little bit to avoid impacting the wetlands on
the property, and so that permit has been issued. He is working on it.
It is an owner/builder permit, so it's going to take him a little bit of
time, but he is making progress.
Since then, he's been in touch. I've seen the case. It was
transferred over to me. So we're just monitoring at this point.
He is aware that he has to reach out to an environmental
consultant, and they're going to take a look at the property and decide
if any restoration needs to be made. And if so, how much and what
kind, and they'll submit that plan to the county for approval by
environmental staff, and then he'll have to work on that aspect of it, or
they could go out and say, since everything is shifted in your building,
he might be okay. That's going to be up to them.
So he understands as of this morning -- I explained it to him --
that that's the part that he has to focus on now, because the violation
wasn't the building permit itself; it was the clearing on the property.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And once you have a building
permit, that takes care of the other situation.
MS. GIGUERE: It allows you up to an acreage of clearage on the
property, so it absolutely diminishes the amount of clearing that was
done. It doesn't completely take it away, but it does help him.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And when is he scheduled to come
back with another progress report?
MS. GIGUERE: I believe Danny said three months.
MR. BLANCO: November. Actually, no, I'm sorry. That will
be August.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: In August, okay.
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MS. GIGUERE: And his compliance date is in January of 2019.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Any questions of the
respondent from the Board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, I think we're done.
Thank you.
MS. GIGUERE: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Thank you. You don't have to say
anything.
MS. CURLEY: You're free to go.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Say adis.
MR. SALCIERO: Adis.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's my whole Spanish repertoire.
MR. BLANCO: ***Next item on the agenda, it's Roman
Numeral 5, public hearings/motions, Letter B, stipulations, Case No. 1
from hearings, CELU20180005366, Julio Garcia.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Number 1 under hearings.
MS. CURLEY: Yeah, but it was transferred in, so it's a different
number.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: But it's still No. 1 from hearings. It's
the first item on Page 3 of the paper that you have.
MS. CURLEY: Oh. I'm looking at the screen.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
MR. MUSSE: Good morning.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Record show that the respondent is
not here. Not that they need to be, but okay.
Do you want to read the stipulation into the record?
MR. MUSSE: Yes, sir.
For the record, Investigator Jonathan Musse, Collier County Code
Enforcement. It is agreed between the parties that the respondent shall
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pay operational costs in the amount of $59.42 incurred in the
prosecution of this case within 30 days of this hearing, abate all
violations by removing all unauthorized materials from the property or
store items within a completely enclosed permitted structure within 21
days of this hearing, or a fine of $50 per day will be imposed until the
violation's abated.
The respondent must notify Code Enforcement within 24 hours of
abatement of the violation and request the investigator to perform a site
inspection to confirm compliance.
If the respondent fails to abate the violation, the county may abate
the violation using any method to bring the violation into compliance
and may use the assistance of the Collier County Sheriff's Office to
enforce the provisions of this agreement, and all costs of abatement
shall be assessed to the property owner.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion to accept.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second.
Any discussion on the motion?
I have a question or two. Let me get to it. This was outside
storage, a bunch of stuff. Shouldn't take them any time to do it. You're
giving them 21 days in the stipulation.
MR. MUSSE: Yeah. Mr. Garcia just recently got into an
accident. He was burnt, and he hurt his knee, so he requested 21 days
just to get additional time to make sure he doesn't get charged daily
fines.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So this runs out before our
next meeting.
Okay. We have a motion and a second. All those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: (Absent for the vote.)
MR. WHITE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Thanks, John.
MR. BLANCO: ***Next item on the agenda, it's No. 10 from
hearings, Case No. CESD20170011238, Caryn Mary McGrath.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You look familiar.
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: Good morning, again.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Good morning.
The description of the violation is a mobile home that was
removed between 2006 and 2007 without a demo permit, and a dock
lift shed and power pole installed without getting a permit.
So you have a stipulation on this that you can read into the
record?
MR. MUSSE: Correct.
For the record, Investigator Jonathan Musse, Collier County Code
Enforcement.
It is agreed between the parties that the respondent shall pay
operational costs in the amount of $59.63 incurred in the prosecution
of this case within 30 days of this hearing; abate all violations by
obtaining a demolition permit, inspections, certificate of completion
for the removal of the previous mobile home, and obtain all required
inspections and certificate of completion for the tiny house, Permit No.
PRBD20171254064, and for the boatlift, Permit No.
PRBD20170830971, within 120 days of this hearing, or a fine of $100
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per day will be imposed until the violation's abated.
Respondent must notify the Code Enforcement within 24 hours of
abatement of the violation and request the investigator to perform a site
inspection to confirm compliance; that if the respondent fails to abate
the violation, the county may abate the violation using any method to
bring the violation into compliance and may use the assistance of the
Collier County Sheriff's Office to enforce the provisions of this
agreement, and all costs of abatement shall be assessed to the property
owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You heard that stipulation.
You agree to it?
MS. McGRATH: Um-hmm.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Any problems making the date?
MS. McGRATH: No.
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: No. I have a question, though.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Sure.
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: Isn't there a time limit -- we bought the
property a year and a half ago, and the demolition permit that was not
pulled was in 1999. So we hired a title company when we brought the
property. Since then there's been, like, two owners before. So -- I
mean, so now we're responsible for it? Which we've agreed to. But
there's not, like, a statute of time, like, okay this was, like, 1999?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me tell you. Whoever owns the
property today is the one that gets hit with it, and the reason --
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- for that is it's hard to go after
somebody from five years ago or 30 years ago.
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And that's why the rule is written,
and they have no recourse. You own the property now. And if that
person over there failed to pull a permit way back when, you can't go
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after that person.
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: Because the title company should find
that if you hired a tile company.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You would think so or, I mean, their
--
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: They said they couldn't find it
anywhere in the records.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's why -- well, they should look
at the microfiche, just a quick suggestion.
MS. CURLEY: Also, this warranty deed where you purchased
the property was executed by an attorney. You might want to
reference -- go back to him.
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: Okay.
MS. CURLEY: You have to use the title company for your side
of the transaction, but the seller warrantied the deed that they passed to
you with this attorney, so you have another phone call to make.
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: Okay. We're going to take care of it,
but we just had that question.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Go after the attorneys.
MS. McGRATH: The 120 days, we are just waiting for the
permit. It's already in and filed. Hopefully that doesn't take too much
longer.
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: We had to get an engineer. It took
forever.
MS. McGRATH: So we're just waiting on that.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Well, if you have any
problems meeting that date and you need more time or something,
come back to the Board and we'll --
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- be more than glad to hear what
you have to say. Okay. Thank you very much.
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MS. ANGIE McGRATH: Thank you.
MR. MUSSE: Thank you.
MR. LETOURNEAU: I'm surprised you didn't have any
questions about the tiny-house permit.
MS. NICOLA: Well, that was going to be my question, because I
read the violation. I didn't see any violation for the tiny house. So
that's why I was questioning the stipulation a little. But if they're
agreeing to it, a stipulation's stipulation.
MR. LETOURNEAU: It's a shed -- I mean, it was a -- it is a shed
at this point, or it was when we first started the case, I believe, and now
it's being turned into a tiny house.
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: Well, what happened --
MS. McGRATH: Correct, yes.
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: Yes, you're right. But what happened
was our lot's only 45 by 90, so the house that we originally had a
permit pulled for -- which we had actually transferred from the
property owner previous to us -- we were going to put there, but then,
looking at the lot and the setbacks, it wouldn't fit. So we took -- and
we're trying to permit our first tiny house in Collier County. So it's
taken forever.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It rained on the house; it shrunk.
What do you --
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: We're almost there.
MR. LETOURNEAU: First one in Collier County.
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: First one.
MS. NICOLA: Not even my dog would fit into a tiny house.
MS. CURLEY: You guys better get along.
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: Oh, yeah.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Well, thank you very much.
MS. ANGIE McGRATH: All right. Thank you.
Thank you, Jonathan.
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MR. MUSSE: Thank you.
MR. BLANCO: ***Okay. Next item on the agenda is No. 5
from hearings, Case No. CESD20170017000, David Espinosa.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Just a prewarning, we'll take
a break after this.
MS. CURLEY: What number, please?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: This is No. 5 from hearings. It's the
last one on the same page we were just on.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Espinosa.
MS. CURLEY: I got it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. CURLEY: I'm on the digital screen.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. This is the unpermitted
structures on the property.
Respondent is not present, but I'm sure you have a stipulation
written that you would love to read into the record.
MR. ASARO: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. ASARO: For the record, Tony Asaro with the Collier
County Code Enforcement Department.
David Espinosa has agreed to enter into a stipulation agreement
with Collier County Code Enforcement Department.
It is agreed between the parties that the respondent shall pay the
operational costs in the amount of $59.63 dollars incurred in the
prosecution of this case within 30 days of this hearing; abate all
violations by obtaining all Collier County building permits for the
unpermitted structures or demolition permit to remove the structures,
request all related inspections, and obtain a certificate of
completion/occupancy within 30 days of this hearing, or a fine of $250
per day will be imposed until the violation is abated.
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Respondent must notify the Code Enforcement Department
within 24 hours of abatement and -- of the violation and request the
investigator perform an on-site inspection to confirm compliance; that
if the respondent fails to abate the violation, the county may abate the
violation using any method to bring the violation into compliance and
may use the assistance of the Collier County Sheriff's Office to enforce
the provisions of this agreement, and all costs of the abatement shall be
assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Any discussion from the
Board?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Any motions from the Board?
MR. ASHTON: Motion to accept the stipulation as written.
MR. WHITE: Second.
We have a motion and a second. Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Thank you, Tony.
And we will take -- yes, going to take a 10-minute break.
MR. L'ESPERANCE: If I may, I have a personal situation that I
must attend to, so I must leave right now.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And your new hip can leave, and we
have our other alternate to sit in for you for the remainder of this
hearing.
We're going to take 10 minutes.
(A brief recess was had, and Mr. L'Esperance left the boardroom
for the remainder of the meeting.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'd like to call the Code Enforcement
Board back to order.
MR. BLANCO: ***The next item on the agenda. It's No. 14
from hearings, Case No. CESD20170016916, Neysis Rodriguez.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's another stipulation.
MR. BLANCO: Yes, sir.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I didn't see you raise your hand,
Tony.
MR. ASARO: I've already been sworn in.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No, no, no. It wears off after one
case. Okay.
MR. ASARO: Oh, does it? Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It does.
MR. ASARO: I gotcha.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Could you state your name on the
microphone for us.
MS. RODRIGUEZ: Neysis Rodriguez.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And the gentleman?
MR. GARCIA: I'm Pillar Garcia. I'm just helping her interpret.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Great. Do you -- sworn in as
an interpreter then.
(The interpreter was duly sworn to translate from English to
Spanish and Spanish to English to the best of his ability and indicated
in the affirmative.)
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(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You want to read the
stipulation into the record, Tony?
MR. ASARO: Yes. Thank you.
For the record, Tony Asaro with the Collier County Code
Enforcement Department.
Neysis Rodriguez has agreed to enter into a stipulation agreement
with the Collier County Code Enforcement.
It is agreed between the parties that the respondent shall pay the
operational costs in the amount of $59.70 incurred in the prosecution
of this case within 30 days of this hearing; abate all violations by
obtaining all required Collier County building permits for all
unpermitted structures and pool or demolition permit to restore the
property to its original permitted state, request all related inspections
and certificate of completion/occupancy within 90 days of this hearing,
or a fine of $250 per day will be imposed unless the violation is abated.
Respondent must notify the Code Enforcement Department
within 24 hours of abatement of the violation and request the
investigator perform an on-site inspection to confirm compliance; that
if the respondent fails to abate the violation, the county may abate the
violation using any method to bring the violation into compliance and
may use the assistance of the Collier County Sheriff's Office to enforce
the provisions of this agreement, and all costs of abatement shall be
assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I'm not the hearing case, but a
quick question. There's a pool there?
MR. ASARO: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is it fenced?
MR. ASARO: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. That's --
MR. ASARO: It's secure.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It's the only -- okay.
You've heard them read the stipulation into the record?
MS. RODRIGUEZ: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: In general it says you have
unpermitted structures on the property, and the pool permit's expired.
You'll be able to take care of that within three months?
MS. RODRIGUEZ: Uh-huh.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Or, as Gerald says, 90 days, or a fine
of $250 a day. You agree to that?
MS. RODRIGUEZ: Yes. But the problem is when I buy my
home, I buy -- this problem never passed the CEO. Now I have the
one impatience (sic). That surprise for me. I say, what? No. I buy my
house con this pool in 2002 or '3. No exactly years. But I buy my
house con this problem; I buy the problem. Now the process is --
okay, I work with Mr. Octavio with my plans, permit in my home. I
think it's okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah. That's unfortunate that --
when people buy homes, that's very important that they find out if
there are any additions or changes. Did you have a realtor help you
buy this house?
MS. RODRIGUEZ: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: They should have mentioned that --
MS. RODRIGUEZ: But now when I see my survey, everything,
every papers, I say, oh, my God. I buy my house con this problem.
That surprise for me.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Unfortunately, you're right. Okay.
Well, the next house you buy, be more careful.
MS. RODRIGUEZ: Long time, honey.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Any discussion from the
Board?
(No response.)
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Any motions?
MR. ASHTON: Motion to accept the stipulation as written.
MS. ELROD: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. WHITE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. Thank you
very much.
MR. ASARO: You're welcome.
MS. RODRIGUEZ: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Thank you.
MR. GARCIA: Have a good day.
MR. BLANCO: ***Next item on the agenda is No. 16 from
hearings. Case No. CESD20170001107, Magaly Gonzalez.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Could you state your name on the
microphone?
MS. GONZALEZ: Magaly Gonzalez.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And this young lady?
MS. DIAZ: I'm her daughter, Darian Diaz.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. DIAZ: I'm just here to translate if she needs me to.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: If she needs you. Should we swear
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you in as a translator?
MS. DIAZ: Sure.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah, why not.
(The interpreter was duly sworn to translate from English to
Spanish and Spanish to English to the best of her ability and indicated
in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Tony, you want to read the
stipulation into the record.
MR. ASARO: Yes. For the record, Tony Asaro with Collier
County Code Enforcement.
Magaly Gonzalez has agreed to enter into a stipulation agreement
with Collier County Code Enforcement.
It is agreed between the parties that the respondent shall pay the
operational costs in the amount of $59.70 incurred in the prosecution
of this case within 30 days of this hearing; abate all violations by
obtaining all required Collier County building permits for interior
alterations to the main structure or demolition permit to restore the
original permitted structure to its original permitted state; request all
related inspections and certificate of completion/occupancy within 120
days of this hearing, or fine of $250 per day will be imposed until the
violation is abated.
Also, cease and desist the use of the unpermitted dwelling areas
and living space, and power off any unpermitted electricity from the
circuit breaker within three days of this hearing, or a fine of $250 a day
will be imposed until the violation is abated.
Respondent must notify the Code Enforcement Department
within 24 hours of abatement of the violation and request the
investigator perform a site inspection to confirm compliance; that if the
respondent fails to abate the violation, the county may abate the
violation and bring the violation into compliance and may use the
assistance of the Collier County Sheriff's Office to enforce the
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provisions of this agreement, and all costs of abatement shall be
assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. The structure's safe?
MR. ASARO: It is safe.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. ASARO: Yeah, it's a safe structure.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Is it occupied?
MR. ASARO: It is occupied.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Those areas that are --
MR. ASARO: Unpermitted.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That are unpermitted are occupied.
MR. ASARO: And they need to power off the electricity.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And the respondents have agreed in
their stipulation to vacate that area of the premise?
MR. ASARO: Yes.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Is it occupied by you, or is it occupied by
other parties?
MS. DIAZ: Other.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you have it rented out to other
people?
MS. DIAZ: She does, yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And those people are going to leave?
MS. DIAZ: Yeah. Well, actually, it's a whole family. So we'll
accommodate them, since we only have three days. We'll definitely
get them somewhere.
MS. CURLEY: Well, it's not three days. The violation was first
observed January 24th.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No, I understand.
MS. CURLEY: So it's been a year and four months that you
knew this.
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MS. DIAZ: Actually, she was notified in August. I don't know
the date of January, honestly. But the first time she was notified was in
August. Then she went to the county, presented everything to Mr.
Paul, and then the hurricane happened. So she got in contact with
some guy named Alonzo. He's the one working on her permits and
stuff, and everything's just got pushed back till February.
Then February he said, well, I can't do this. You need to find
somebody else, so now she's working with another person which just
put in the permits.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You have 120 days. That
should be enough?
MS. DIAZ: I would think so. She was told that the county's
backed up about six weeks, so within that time, I hope --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, I mean, it's a heavy fine after
120 days. So if you can't get it done in the 120 days, I strongly suggest
that you come back here and let us know what progress has been made
and then at that time you can request more time.
MS. DIAZ: Yeah. I honestly think she'll be able to pull it out.
It's just things are done larger than they should have been. She just
needs to put them small. The kitchen should be just a wet bar. Things
-- I'm pretty sure she could do that in that time. If not, she'll come
back.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Any questions or motions
from the Board?
MR. ASHTON: Motion to accept stipulations as written.
MR. WHITE: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. WHITE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. Thank you
very much.
MS. DIAZ: Thank you.
MR. BLANCO: ***Next item on the agenda is No. 11 from
hearings, Case No. CESD20180000309, Scherley Fonseca Vasquez
and Maria Tania Toirac Arburola.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Could you state your name
on the microphone for us.
MS. ARBUROLA: My name is Maria Tania Toirac Arburola.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I still remember you, Tony.
MR. ASARO: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: This is, I think, our last stipulation.
MR. BLANCO: That's correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You want to read the
stipulation into the record, Tony.
MR. ASARO: Yes. For the record, Tony Asaro with Collier
County Code Enforcement.
Scherley Fonseca Vazquez and Maria Tania Toirac Arburola have
agreed to enter into a stipulation agreement with Collier County Code
Enforcement.
It is agreed between the parties that the respondent shall pay all
operational costs in the amount of $59.70 incurred in the prosecution
of this case within 30 days of this hearing; abate all violations by
obtaining all required Collier County building permits or demolition
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permit for the unpermitted mobile home; request all required
inspections and certificate of completion/occupancy within 90 days of
this hearing, or a fine of $250 per day will be imposed until the
violation is abated.
Respondent must notify the Code Enforcement Department
within 24 hours of abatement of the violation and request the
investigator perform an on-site inspection to confirm compliance; that
if the respondent fails to abate the violation, the county may abate the
violation using any method to bring the violation into compliance and
may use the assistance of the Collier County Sheriff's Office to enforce
the provisions of this agreement, and all costs of abatement shall be
assessed to the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Has she read this and
understand it in Spanish, English?
MR. GARCIA: Yes, she has. And the plans are being permitted.
Probably by next week it will be in permitting. They're being drawn
right now. It's not going to be a mobile home. It will be turned into a
storage, so that's what she's doing.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Questions?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Is there a main structure on the property?
MR. GARCIA: There's a house.
MR. LEFEBVRE: There's a house already. Okay. Because,
otherwise you probably --
MR. GARCIA: And it checked it out. It meets all the setbacks. I
mean, it's way out there.
MR. LEFEBVRE: And a mobile home is allowed on this site?
MR. ASARO: Not a mobile home. But if they do convert it into
a storage unit and it's permitted by the Building Department, then it
will be allowed.
MR. GARCIA: Tie it down and the whole thing, so...
MS. CURLEY: Was it there when you bought it? I'm just
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curious. Was it there?
MR. GARCIA: No.
MS. CURLEY: Okay. Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a stipulation. You
understand the stipulation and you agree to it?
MS. ARBUROLA: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion from the Board?
MR. ASHTON: Motion to accept stipulation as written.
MR. WHITE: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second to
accept the stipulation as written. All those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. WHITE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. Thank you.
MR. GARCIA: Thank you.
MS. ARBUROLA: Thank you.
MR. BLANCO: ***Next item on the agenda is Roman Numeral
5, public hearings/motions, Letter C, hearings, No. 8, Case No.
CESD20170018508, AV Vision, LLC,
MS. McGONAGLE: The stipulation has been withdrawn
because he'd ask for a continuance.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We're going to hear it as a --
we finished the stipulations. This is a hearing.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. This is the case that we
denied that we're going to hear the case now.
So since we're hearing the case now, the county will present their
case, and then it's your turn. Okay?
MS. McGONAGLE: Good morning. For the record, Investigator
Michelle McGonagle, Collier County Code Enforcement.
This is in reference to Case No. CESD20170018508 dealing with
a violation of Collier County Land Development Code 04-41, as
amended, Section 10.02.06(B)(1)(a) and 10.02.06(B)(1)(e).
Alterations/additions commenced without obtaining required
Collier County permits.
Violation location: 4588 Parrot Avenue, Naples, Florida; Folio
32488080005.
Service was given on November 29th, 2017.
I would now like to present case evidence in the following
exhibits: Six pictures taken by Investigator Colleen Davidson on
November 28th, 2017.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Has the respondent seen the photos?
MS. McGONAGLE: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Do you have any objection to
those photos?
MR. AZAVEDO: No.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We get a motion from the
Board?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Motion to accept.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
MR. WHITE: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
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MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. WHITE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
MS. McGONAGLE: On November 28th, 2017, Investigator
Colleen Davidson met with the property owner, Vilson, who signed an
entry-of-consent form and allowed her access to the interior of the
home where she observed alterations, including plumbing and
electrical, without any Collier County permits. He was advised that he
would need to obtain permits for the alterations.
On November 29th, 2017, a notice of violation was prepared and
posted at the property and courthouse.
On January 2nd, 2018, the property owner called Investigator
Davidson stating that he had met with Renald Paul and needs to obtain
more documents to apply for a permit and was granted additional time.
On January 30th, 2018, there was no permit application, and the
case was prepared for a hearing on February 6th, 2018, and scheduled
for Code Enforcement Board on February 22nd, 2018. A continuance
was requested on February 16th, 2018, and the case was withdrawn
from the hearing.
On April 4th, 2018, the property owner met with Renald Paul to
discuss the submittal and was advised -- also advised his contractor
would be submitting an application on April 15th, 2018.
On May 7th, 2018, no permit -- there was no permit, and the case
was scheduled for a Code Enforcement Board hearing on May 24th,
2018.
On May 9th, 2018, the property owner was in Renald Paul's
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office to submit plans and asked about the hearing notice. Because a
case was open for so long without compliance efforts, he was advised
to submit a request for continuance to Danny Blanco.
On May 18th, 2018, a motion for continuance was received from
the property owner.
The violation remains as of May 24th, 2018.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Now it's your turn. Tell us
everything you need to tell us.
MS. NICOLA: Can I ask a question in advance of that? One of
the things the Code Enforcement official said at the beginning was that
there had been a stipulation that was withdrawn, is that right, because
of the motion for continuance?
MR. BLANCO: No. There was no stipulation agreement. We
just had the motion --
MS. NICOLA: Oh, okay.
MR. BLANCO: -- and the Board denied the motion.
MS. NICOLA: I just wanted to be sure of that because if there
was a stipulation, obviously, I'd want to know why it was withdrawn.
Okay. Never mind.
MR. AZAVEDO: Okay. The reason why it's taken so long, as I
mentioned before, due to the hurricane, we had that water intrusion,
and I went there, and I just removed everything that I could.
And then once we have done that, we decided to make few
changes in the house, just to the interior of the house: Move some
walls; we're redoing a bathroom; moving the kitchen around. And
we've been working on it, and I've been going to the -- been in touch
with Renald, and it's -- that's why I still didn't get the drawings done.
We're just -- we're about to finish and would be able to submit
application -- the permit application in a week or so. That's -- and then
we need the time to complete the work. And I'm thinking I would like
to request at least six months.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Don't request anything yet because
we haven't found you in violation yet, okay?
MR. AZAVEDO: Okay.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It's probably a pretty good chance
that that might happen, but if it doesn't, we just say "goodbye." I just
was going to ask you the history. You purchased this property when?
MR. AZAVEDO: That was in September.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Of?
MR. AZAVEDO: Of 2017.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So you bought it right before the
hurricane or right after?
MR. AZAVEDO: Right after.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Right after the hurricane.
MR. AZAVEDO: After, yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And you had extensive damage in
the house?
MR. AZAVEDO: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And you've been working to get that
done?
MR. AZAVEDO: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So at this point no permits have been
pulled?
MR. AZAVEDO: No permits have been pulled, and the house is
exactly the same way as you saw on pictures -- on the pictures.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. AZAVEDO: But nothing has been done because, of course,
we haven't pulled any permits or anything.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Did you demo -- take out all the bad
stuff?
MR. AZAVEDO: All the bad stuff is out, yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Was there -- was that part of
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this violation that no demo permit was pulled?
MS. McGONAGLE: It was just alterations and additions
commenced without obtaining required Collier County permits.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So I won't even think about
that.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Well, I think that when he probably went
in to get the permit, Mr. Paul told you you needed a demo permit
before they'd issue you the building permit?
MR. AZAVEDO: No, he didn't say that I need -- at least he could
have said something, but I probably didn't -- if he said something, I did
not understand I had to pull that kind of permit. If I would have
known, I sure would have pulled a permit.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Okay. Because normally that's what they
do on that kind of work.
MR. AZAVEDO: Yeah. If could have been.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So I'm a little bit confused. If
you haven't started the renovation, the electrical, the plumbing and
whatever, do you need a permit for doing nothing?
MR. LETOURNEAU: The Building Department's going to
require them to get the structure back into a permitted condition. At
this point it's not in a permitted condition. So, yeah, they'd still be
required to get the building permit and follow through with everything.
And they didn't pull the required demo permit, so now they're -- now
they're in the rat race.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: If he had pulled the demo permit,
we'd be just sitting here now waiting for him to do whatever he's going
to do.
MR. LETOURNEAU: If he pulled the demo permit, we wouldn't
even probably be here at this point, right? Yeah. What happened was
he would have pulled the demo permit, and then the Building
Department would have said, you have to also apply for a building
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permit so we're assured that you're going to bring the structure back up
into a permitted condition.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And once he pulled the permit, he'd
have, to begin with, six minutes and then an inspection every so often.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Yeah. He could have strung it out a long
time, yeah.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So you understand -- the
Board understands what I was asking?
MS. CURLEY: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So what I'd --
MR. LEFEBVRE: Make a motion that --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: A violation --
MR. LEFEBVRE: -- a violation exists.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Right. Do we have a second?
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second that
a violation exists. Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: (No verbal response.)
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. WHITE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
So now a violation exists, which you knew coming in, probably.
So how do we resolve this situation? If you pull a permit, that
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automatically gives you six months, and then you need to do an
inspection every, is it, three months? Six months?
MR. LETOURNEAU: Every six months.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Every six months. And that gives
you six more months. So they don't expect you to complete everything
you do in six months. You could get, based on how you pull permits, a
lot more time. You'll need a permit and an inspection on electrical and
plumbing -- I don't know if they need one now on insulation -- but
things of that nature.
So any comments from the Board, or do you have any comments
that you'd like to say at this time?
MR. AZAVEDO: No, I don't have any.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. How long do you think it will
take you to get a permit? I know you've been working with Renald
Paul.
MR. AZAVEDO: We are going to be able to submit the permits
in about, max, two weeks.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. AZAVEDO: We're finishing up the drawings, and then
we'll be able to submit.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So if we were to give you a month or
two months --
MR. AZAVEDO: More than enough.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: More than enough time, and that
would satisfy this violation; is that correct?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Do you need a certificate of completion?
MR. LETOURNEAU: Yeah. We're going to ask for a -- see, at
this point we cited for alterations and additions commenced, so...
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: He just needs to start it.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Yeah. Well, we're going to ask for the
whole thing to be taken care of and in a permitted condition. So he
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needs to get the demo permit, that inspected, CO, and follow through
with getting the house also in a permitted condition.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. And how long do you think --
you're going to pull the permit. Are you doing the work yourself?
MR. AZAVEDO: Some of the work, yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. You have other people --
MR. AZAVEDO: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- other contractors?
MR. AZAVEDO: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: How long do you think it will take to
finish the whole job?
MR. AZAVEDO: At least six months.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Okay. So if we granted you
six months to resolve this situation, that should be sufficient time?
And if you needed more time after that, you could come back to the
Board and request that. So --
MS. CURLEY: I have a suggestion. Maybe seven months,
because then -- so he doesn't get caught up in the
Thanksgiving/Christmas.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Are you making a motion?
MS. CURLEY: I'm just offering maybe you push it to the
January meeting.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I'll make a motion.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Do you want to do it for seven
months?
MR. LEFEBVRE: You'll find out in my motion.
I make a motion: Operational costs be paid in the amount of
59.63 within 30 days; I'll take Ms. Curley's advice with seven months,
or a fine of $250 a day will be imposed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We have a motion. Do we
have a second?
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MS. ELROD: Second.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. WHITE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. So you
should have no problem pulling the permit and getting everything done
in seven months, and best of luck to you.
MR. AZAVEDO: Thank you very much, and may God bless you
all.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Thank you.
MS. NICOLA: Just a point of clarification on the record. It looks
like our November meeting is the 16th, and if you did in the future
have a six-month continuance, it would expire on November the 20th.
And without a December meeting it would, in reality, be placed on the
January, so...
MR. LEFEBVRE: That's fine.
MS. NICOLA: I just noticed that. I just thought I'd let you guys
know just so -- distinction without a difference for today.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hopefully this will be done, and he
wouldn't have to come back anyhow.
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MS. CURLEY: It's impossible to get work done between
Thanksgiving and Christmas in this town.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Especially -- you can get work done,
especially if you're the one that's doing it.
MS. NICOLA: Are you volunteering, Bob?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Absolutely.
MS. NICOLA: Of course.
MS. CURLEY: I said normally you can't.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You can't say "normal" and "Bob" in
the same sentence.
Danny, you're up.
MR. BLANCO: ***Okay. Next item on the agenda, it's Roman
Numeral 6, old business, Letter A, motion for imposition of fines and
liens, No. 2, Case No. CELU20150022309, Highland Properties of Lee
and Collier.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Ordinarily we would go to
the county to read this in. We have the respondent here.
You want to read it in first, Joe, and then we'll listen to the
respondent's request.
MR. MUCHA: Sure.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. MUCHA: For the record, Joe Mucha, Collier County Code
Enforcement.
This is dealing with a violation of Collier County Land
Development Code 04-41, as amended, Sections 1.04.01(A) and
2.02.03.
Location -- the folio is 00407320008.
Description of the violation was commercial vehicles, trailers, and
dumpsters, numerous piles of vegetative debris and miscellaneous piles
of litter containing, but not limited to, wood, pipes, metal, concrete
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blocks, et cetera, on vacant parcel.
Past orders: On October 27th, 2017, the Code Enforcement
Board issued a findings of fact, conclusion of law and order.
Respondent was found in violation of the referenced ordinances and
ordered to correct the violation. See the attached order of the board,
OR5446, Page 3535, for more information.
Violation has been abated as of May 22nd, 2018.
Fines and cost to date are as follows: Fines have accrued of $100
per day for the period from January 26th, 2018, to May 22nd, 2018,
117 days, for a total fine amount of $11,700.
Previously assessed operational costs of $65.82 have been paid.
Operational costs for today's hearing, $59.42.
Total fine amount is $11,759.42.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I just have a little computer glitch.
Okay, thank you.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Where is this property located?
MR. MUCHA: I believe it's Santa Barbara and Davis.
MR. CADENHEAD: Santa Barbara and Davis Boulevard.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Southeast corner.
MR. MUCHA: Yes, sir.
MS. CURLEY: What's your relationship to the property?
MR. CADENHEAD: The description of the report?
MS. CURLEY: What is your relationship?
MR. CADENHEAD: I'm an agent for Highlands of Lee and
Collier.
THE COURT REPORTER: What is your name?
MR. CADENHEAD: Robert Cadenhead.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Joe, when was this -- so the
operational costs have been paid?
MR. MUCHA: The operational costs have been paid.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. When was this --
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MS. CURLEY: January.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No. When was it abated? On May
22nd?
MR. MUCHA: May 22nd, yes, sir.
MR. BLANCO: Mr. Chairman, the Board should have revised
the executive summary of the compliance, yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah.
MR. MUCHA: Basically, he was waiting to get the green light to
burn. There was two very large piles of vegetative debris and, finally,
the rains coming that we had kind of gave him the green light to go
ahead and burn those piles. And once that was done, that brought it
into compliance.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Mr. Cadenhead?
MR. CADENHEAD: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Could you -- you're before us to
request something, I'm sure.
MR. CADENHEAD: Yeah -- no. I'm here to abate any fines. In
other words, we was under the mercy of the Forestry Department and
-- to give us a burning permit.
We received the first burning permit that was issued in Collier
County for the year 2'18. The piles have been burned and cleaned up.
Everything else was done before that.
But we was at the mercy to receive a burning permit. And with
all the other fires and everything else, until we got the first rain, that
was when the Forestry Department opened up burning.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Could I ask about the commercial
vehicles, the trailers, the dumpsters?
MR. CADENHEAD: All that was removed before.
MS. CURLEY: Was that moved before the stipulation expired?
MR. CADENHEAD: In the period of time the stipulation -- the
only thing we was waiting on to finalize the thing was to be able to
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burn the piles.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Could you have removed it with -- put it in
dumpsters and removed it?
MR. CADENHEAD: No. In other words -- we've been on this
piece of property removing exotics ever since 2'04, and the exotics has
been accumulating into the burn piles. And every time, the chance to
burn, it would either be the storm, something else would come up, and
we compiled everything, get it all ready to burn, and we just simply
was waiting on the Forestry Department to give the burning permit.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: How big is this piece of property?
MR. MUCHA: It's pretty substantial.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Eighty-six or so acres in totality.
MR. CADENHEAD: It's 82 acres altogether. The front piece is
basically 14 acres, is where the burning pile was.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'm going a little off base now, but I
was going to ask are there any activities that are going on now that
would cause another violation going forward, or is this the end?
MR. CADENHEAD: We're permitting with the county. In other
words, we're setting up a new enforcement to put in a retail nursery on
the corner. We already had our pre-application with the county. All
the other stuff that they required is ready to turn into the county now to
give Jeff a summary of when that would be turned in. So there will be
a retail nursery with activity going on there in the future.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LETOURNEAU: As far as your question, we did have one
more case where there was some clearing in the back, but once the
nursery gets approved, that will take care of that issue right there.
I do believe Mr. Cadenhead -- I don't know why everything was
on the stip. I think everything was taken care of but the piles of
vegetation when we brought this to the Code Enforcement Board the
first time, and then he got rid of the vegetation piles, and at that point
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he was in compliance.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So do you have any thoughts on this
case?
MR. LETOURNEAU: He worked and he did it; he got it done.
Yeah, I mean, he was at the mercy of the weather this last six months,
though, like he said.
MR. LEFEBVRE: How long has the piles been accumulating?
Since 2004?
MR. CADENHEAD: No. The piles -- the removal of the exotics
has been going on on that piece of property since that period of time,
and the piles -- the piles that are there now are only from the last year,
basically. So there's been activity going on, permitted activity going
on out there with permitted exotic removal.
MR. LETOURNEAU: He had a vegetation removal permit
active.
MR. LEFEBVRE: But what I'm trying to get at is the pile that
was burned within the past few weeks has not been sitting there for 13,
14 years.
MR. LETOURNEAU: No.
MR. CADENHEAD: No.
MR. LEFEBVRE: It's been burned on a regular basis.
MR. CADENHEAD: It's been taken care of back and forth, yes,
sir. But this time -- in other words, it was basically -- with the fires in
the Everglades, with the fires that we've had --
MR. LEFEBVRE: No, no. I understand.
MR. CADENHEAD: In other words, nobody was issuing a burn
permit until we received the first one for the 2'18. And once we got it,
the piles were burnt, and we got our clearance on it.
MR. LEFEBVRE: In lieu that this case was brought in front of us
in October, which was right at the start of the dry season, and being
that we had a very, very dry season, and it sounds like -- that the
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respondent has done everything except for taking care of the debris
which was -- he really couldn't do much about it, I think we should
deny the county's request for the fine.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is that your motion?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Yes, it is.
MS. ELROD: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And we have a second.
Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. WHITE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously. So no fine.
MR. CADENHEAD: Thank you.
MR. BLANCO: ***Next item on the agenda is No. 6, Case No.
CEROW20150023030, Patrick J. Browne and Beatriz Perez.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The good old culvert pipes in
Willoughby Acres.
Okay. Joe, you want to read this into the record?
MR. MUCHA: Yes, sir. For the record, Joe Mucha, Collier
County Code Enforcement.
This is dealing with a violation of Collier County Code of Laws
and Ordinances Chapter 110, Road and Bridges, Article II,
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Construction in the Right-of-Way, Division 1, Generally, Section
110-31(a).
Violation location was 203 Willoughby Drive, Naples; Folio No.
is 00164960002.
Description of the violation is a culvert drainage pipe in need of
repair or replacement.
Past orders: On May 26th, 2016, the Code Enforcement Board
issued a findings of fact, conclusion of law and order. Respondent was
found in violation of the referenced ordinance and ordered to correct
the violation. See the attached order of the board, OR5278, Page 2542,
for more information.
The violation has been abated as of February 26th, 2018.
Fines and costs to date are as follows: Fines have accrued at a
rate of $150 per day for the period from September 24th, 2016, to
February 26th, 2018, 521 days, for a total fine amount of $78,150.
Previously assessed operational costs of $65.01 have been paid.
Operational costs for today's hearing, $59.42.
Total fine amount, $78,209.42.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Any questions of the county?
MR. ASHTON: Yeah, I have a question.
How come it took so long? I mean, 521 days? That's a long time
for --
MS. CURLEY: I remember this.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I do remember.
MS. CURLEY: We had a lot of Willoughby Acres in that whole
section of town where the culverts were collapsing, and so then a lot of
the guys got together with the county, because it was like 10- or 15- or
18- or $20,000 to --
MR. BROWNE: Correct.
MS. CURLEY: -- fix a driveway. And it was a huge expense.
We've heard about five cases like this.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Why don't we hear from the
respondent first, and then we'll go for questions.
MR. BROWNE: Patrick Browne.
MS. PEREZ: Hi. I'm Beatriz Perez. And she is correct, it did
take a lot of people in the neighborhood to do the work. And Pat
decided to -- you know, because of budget constraints, to do it on his
own, and he did. And we apologize for the fact that it took so long, but
it was -- it's a new -- it was a new process for him. He's a firefighter.
He doesn't do culvert pipes.
And, like, we're going through a divorce, and when I received this
last statement, I asked -- I had called Patrick Baldwin, who had worked
with us, who's no longer here, and he had said Pat did all the work but
had let the permit expire.
So I said, well, can you talk to Pat? Because I'm not talking to
him. Can you call him and tell him to get the permit up to -- you
know, do the final thing. And could you call me back and let me know
if it's -- if that's true, because I was going to be -- you know, I'll be
staying in the house.
And so he did. And he called me back and said, yes, Pat took
care of it. So when another one came, I was like, is this a new problem
or the same problem? And that's when I spoke with Danny Blanco,
and he said that it's about the fines, which totally freaked me out, and
we're just hoping to have the fines waived.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I specifically remember when you came in
front of us, and you said, I'm a firefighter. Rainy season's coming.
And we can't -- I can't get to it. And my comment back then was, well,
that's why we need to get this fixed.
And with the hurricane and rain that came before the hurricane --
I live in Willoughby Acres. I had some flooding in front of my house
and so forth. So it is of paramount importance to have those drainage
culverts fixed and fixed in a timely manner.
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MR. BROWNE: Correct.
MR. LEFEBVRE: And it could be a detriment to your neighbor's
house or neighbors around you.
So I feel that there should be some kind of fine imposed for the
length of time that it took.
MR. BROWNE: Sir, initially, the first time when I came in and
asked for an extension, I was granted that. The work was completed.
There was, not red flags, but it wasn't up to the codes. So trying to find
through the Collier County permitting process, which I found very
tough -- I've been there at the Horseshoe Drive numerous, numerous
times figuring out why.
Again, I don't do culvert work. I took an owner/builder permit to
save probably 10-, $15,000 from having a contractor do it myself. So,
again, the work -- Patrick was our inspector. Joe said everything was
completed.
MR. LEFEBVRE: When was it completed?
MR. BROWNE: The final was February 24th, I believe.
MS. PEREZ: But the work was done before the hurricane.
MR. BROWNE: Way, way done; way before.
MR. LEFEBVRE: When was the work substantially completed
minus issues that had to be --
MR. BROWNE: A year and a half ago at least.
MR. MUCHA: From what I -- when I got involved in this case, it
seemed like the permit -- he had gotten the permit, probably did the
work, but he never called in the inspection; the permit expired. And
then as soon as we called you, you went and took care of it, like, within
a -- it was, like, within a day. It was a pretty quick turnaround. He got
it inspected, and it was done.
So I think maybe you just didn't realize you had to call in that
final inspection.
MR. BROWNE: Correct.
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MR. MUCHA: So it seems like maybe the work was done.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Way before.
MR. MUCHA: Way before, yeah.
MR. LEFEBVRE: But we heard the case --
MS. CURLEY: We've heard a couple cases.
MR. BROWNE: Last year, with the hurricane and rainy season,
it was never -- like you said, for the neighbors, we've been great
neighbors. Twenty-five years we've been in that home in Willoughby.
We've never had an incident. So, again, it drained accordingly.
Everything was done per code.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Because of -- past orders. I'm just trying to
see. Hearing date was May -- oh, no. Sorry. I'm just trying to figure
out when we actually heard the case, because it looks like there's a
stipulated agreement.
MR. ASHTON: May 26th.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: May 27th I signed the order.
MR. ASHTON: May 26th, 2016.
MR. LEFEBVRE: 2016. Oh, okay. A couple years ago.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: 5/26/16.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Then you signed a stipulated agreement on
the 3rd of December 2015.
MS. CURLEY: So it's like he's stuck in code violation probation.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Well, he signed a stipulated agreement, but --
in December 2015 he signed it, but it wasn't voted on until May of the
following year. That seems like a long time to have a stipulated
agreement outstanding. Usually they're much closer to a hearing. So
that's kind of what's throwing me.
MR. BROWNE: I think this got caught up in a black hole
somewhere in codes, as far as I know.
MR. BLANCO: Mr. Lefebvre, the stipulation agreement I have
here in my records, the respondent signed it on May 26th of 2016.
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MR. LEFEBVRE: I have one right here in the package that says
-- oh, he signed it on the 26th but on the very top it's dated December
3rd; December 3rd, 2015.
MR. MUCHA: That was the notice of violation.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. Oh, I'm sorry.
MR. ASHTON: Notice, May 26th.
MS. CURLEY: I'll take a shot at a --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Go ahead.
MS. CURLEY: To save you, Gerald.
MR. LEFEBVRE: There's no saving here. Go ahead.
MS. CURLEY: I'll make a motion to deny the county's $78,150
fine.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion to deny the
county's request for the imposition of the fine. Is that the entire
amount?
MS. CURLEY: Yes, sir.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MS. ELROD: I'll second the motion.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And we have a second. So it's
$78,150. Okay. We have a motion and a second. Any comments on
the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor.
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. WHITE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
MR. LEFEBVRE: Nay.
MR. ASHTON: Opposed.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have two opposed, so it carries
5-2. Okay? Okay. Thank you.
MR. BROWNE: Thank you.
MS. PEREZ: Thank you. God bless you.
MR. BLANCO: ***Next item on the agenda is No. 4, Case No.
CESD20170002774, N-A Properties, LLC.
(The speakers were duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We're technically challenged over
here. Want to come visit?
Hold on. We have Danny to the rescue.
MS. CURLEY: 6A4.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Got it.
Okay. You probably want to read this into the record.
Everyone's been sworn?
Okay. This is -- according to what I have, unless it's been
updated -- has been partially --
MS. PULSE: Yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That was in November, okay. Why
don't you read the -- read this into the record.
MS. PULSE: For the record, Dee Pulse, Collier County Code
Enforcement.
The owner does have a request.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I think you need to read it into the
record before the request.
MS. PULSE: Okay. This is dealing with Collier County Land
Development Code 04-41, as amended, Sections 10.02.06(B)(1)(a),
(e), and (i).
Location: 5630 Copper Leaf Lane, Naples, Florida; Folio
38169440007.
The description is in-ground swimming pool on the property with
no barrier and no permits obtained.
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Past order: On November 17th, 2017, the Code Enforcement
Board issued a findings of fact, conclusion of law and order. The
respondent was found in violation of the referenced ordinances and
ordered to correct the violation. See the attached order of the board,
OR5456, Page 1396, for more information.
Violation has been partially abated as of November 21st, 2017.
Fines and costs to date are as follows: Part B of the order, fines
have accrued at the rate of $100 per day for the period from January
2nd, 2017, to May 24th, 2018, that's 142 days, for a total fine amount
of $14,200.
Part C of the order, no fines accrued.
Fines continue to accrue on Part B of the order.
Previously assessed operational costs of $59.49 have been paid.
Operational costs for today's hearing are $59.35.
Total amount: $14,259.35.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I believe this was a pool without a
fence, required a temporary fence and then a permanent fence within
60 days, from memory.
MS. PULSE: Yes. And the pool has no permit as well.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And the pool has no permit. And the
pool still has no permit.
MS. PULSE: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Sir.
MR. SEPANSKI: Basically, I was up here a month ago with
another violation, well -- and I told you at that time I paid people to
take care of the situation, and apparently they didn't.
The fence was put up on time and complete -- well, the fence was
completely put up on time. It just was not -- the permanent was put in,
and he never picked up the permit and called in an inspection.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: This was the temporary.
MR. SEPANSKI: No, no. Well, the temporary was put up right
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away that weekend. We had the weekend. That was put up right
away. And the permanent fence was put up within -- you know, right
after that within the time frame. It just was not, apparently -- I don't
know how the situation works, but he didn't call in the permit to be
inspected, so that has been done.
Like I told Dee, we were here last month. I talked to Dee, and
I've -- as far as that -- the permitting goes, I didn't know how that went.
So now it's scheduled to be inspected on June 1st or 2nd, I think. So
that part of it should be finished and completed.
As far as the pool goes, the pool's been there 25 years. I even --
before we came to the hearing, I hired -- an architect/engineer was
supposed to take care of it. I paid him even before the last hearing
when you gave me 60 days to complete it; paid the gentleman.
When it was getting down to the 60-day window, I called up the
person I hired. I said, you have two more weeks. This needs to be
done. He said, I've already got it done. I'm bringing it to the county
the next day. Okay.
Never heard back from him. I assumed it was done. Never heard
back from Dee until a month ago when we discussed it, and she said
that other stuff wasn't taken care of either.
So after we -- I finally tracked this gentleman down, he turned in
paperwork to the county. The county told him he needed to jump
through 80,000 more hoops and, basically, he said, I'm not going to do
it.
So we met with Renald yesterday, who seems to be the only one
that can accomplish a task like that, and he gave us a list of things that
need to be done, and we'll be done in two to three weeks with that part
of it.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Is this the -- did you own the
property? You said the pool's been there for how many years?
MR. SEPANSKI: The pool's been there for 20, 25 years.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Have you owned the property --
MR. SEPANSKI: I've only owned it for, like, eight.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I'm looking to the county. If
everything is going to be done in -- within the month, is this a case you
may want to consider pulling and bringing back next month?
MR. LETOURNEAU: We'll withdraw the case until next month.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Perfect.
MR. SEPANSKI: We'll have it completed by then because I will
-- like I said, I made the mistake of paying somebody to do a job, and I
assumed they did it. That was my mistake. I will have it done.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We'll see you next month.
MR. SEPANSKI: Okay. Thank you.
MS. PULSE: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Thanks, Dee.
MR. SEPANSKI: We're always last. I don't know if it's against
Dee or me but, you know --
MS. NICOLA: It goes alphabetically. You have to change your
name. No, I'm totally kidding.
MR. SEPANSKI: Thank you.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. BLANCO: ***Next item on the agenda, it's Roman
Numeral 5, public hearings/motions, Letter C, hearings, No. 2, Case
No. CESD20170018189, Maylet Marquez.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MR. LEFEBVRE: Two more cases; this one and one other one.
MR. BLANCO: Correct.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: This is SC what?
MR. BLANCO: 20170018189.
MR. LEFEBVRE: 5C2.
MS. CURLEY: 5C2.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'll complain about this till the cows
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come home. The way these cases are listed in the margin is very
difficult to stick out. First of all, it's not bold. I know nobody can
change it to bold.
MR. BLANCO: Yeah. We've had several discussions with our
IT department, and that's something that we can't change.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Or if you can't make it bold, make it
bigger. You get a bunch of old people up here, and a young lady; I
didn't consider you. You're not old. Oh, you have your spectacles on.
Okay.
Okay, Tony. You're up.
MR. ASARO: For the record, Tony Asaro with the Collier
County Code Enforcement Department.
This is in reference to Case No. CESD20170018189 dealing with
the violation of the Collier County Land Development Code,
Ordinance 04-41, as amended, Section 10 zero (sic) point
02.06(B)(1)(a), 10.02.06.(1)(e), and 10.02.06(B)(1)(e)(i).
Property is located at 3665 14th Avenue Southeast, Naples,
Florida, 34117. Folio number is 41044280007.
Service was given on December 28th, 2017.
I would like to present case evidence: Two photos dated
November 27th, 2017, taken by myself and an aerial photo of the
property.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Motion to accept.
MR. ASHTON: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: All those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
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MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. WHITE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
MR. ASHTON: On 2017 -- November 27, 2017, I observed an
addition to the main structure, a shed, and the construction of a
concrete wall without obtaining a Collier County -- without obtaining
Collier County building permits.
On December 8th, 2017, Permit No. PRBD20171148206 was
issued for a 6-foot chain link fence and a masonry wall. Inspections
have commenced; however, the room addition and the shed remain in
violation with no permits.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Can you go back to that previous
photo, Danny.
Tony, you want to point to us what we're looking at here. No, no.
Point on the --
MR. ASARO: I'm sorry. Excuse me. That's the home, and this
is the wall/fence, 6-foot fence. They do have a permit for that now.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The structure to the left, does that
have anything to do with this case?
MR. ASARO: No. That's a brand new -- no, that has nothing to
do with it. It was just the way I took the photo.
I was trying to get all the columns in the photo.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: So the violation for the concrete wall, since
they pulled a permit, is that nonexistent now?
MR. ASARO: Well, it hasn't been finalled yet, so it could
technically be a violation. The inspections have commenced, so
they're very close.
MR. LETOURNEAU: The notice was issued before the permit
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was issued and then on our notice we probably told them they needed
to get their inspections and completion for the fence, so...
(Multiple speakers speaking.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Why don't you pull it for now, and if
it's gone, it's gone for next month, or it's back.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Well, we still have to deal with the --
MR. ASHTON: The shed and the --
MR. LETOURNEAU: -- shed and the --
MR. ASHTON: -- room addition.
MR. LETOURNEAU: -- and the addition.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That portion of it. Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Have you been in touch with the owner?
MR. AZAVEDO: I've had several conversations with her, phone
calls to finalize the permits for the room addition and the shed. She
said she's working on it, but it still has not been finalized.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Anybody want to make a
motion if a violation exists or not?
MR. DOINO: Make a motion a violation exists.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion --
MS. CURLEY: Second.
MR. WHITE: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: -- and a second that a violation
exists. Any discussion on the motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
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MR. WHITE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Anybody want to -- that's your suggestion, Tony? Anybody want
to fill in the blanks?
MS. CURLEY: Do we know if there's people living in the extra
room?
MR. ASARO: It's actually like a Florida room addition. There
are people living in the entire house.
MS. CURLEY: Okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: It almost seems to me that the wall should be
pulled out as a separate item, because it sounds like that's going to be
permitted in a relatively short period of time.
MR. ASHTON: Yeah. They have a permit for that.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Yeah. We have no problem with that, if
you want to take the wall out of there.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I mean pulled out and make, like, a separate
line item.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Oh, okay.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Because it sounds like that's going to be
completed sooner than --
MR. LETOURNEAU: True.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Anybody want to try filling
in the blanks?
MS. CURLEY: No.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: No?
MS. NICOLA: I'm just trying to figure out how we would write
it up as a separate line item. I mean, if this is going to be one
completed project, for me trying to put together this order, it would
make more sense for me to have it all be one -- you know, one main
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provision like Paragraph 1. Because if part of it's going to be done, it
doesn't really matter.
MR. LETOURNEAU: It's always more convenient for us, too, so
we don't have to do numerous inspections.
MS. NICOLA: Right.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Plus, you know, if you just go the longest
length that you think something's going to take, everything else should
be done in that period of time.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And if it doesn't get done, it will
come back as partially abated.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Like the previous case.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Well, the previous case was spelled out. It
was separate -- two separate paragraphs.
MS. NICOLA: That was a little bit different. That had to do with
a pool, too. I mean, this is -- I don't know.
MR. LEFEBVRE: It's two separate items.
MS. NICOLA: It is but, I mean, this is one general big project
that apparently they've got partly permitted, and it looks like it's going
to be done, and the rest of it's going take a little more time, but it's still
part of one big project, if I understand correctly; is that right?
MR. ASARO: It's part of one big project.
MR. LEFEBVRE: It is, but two separate permits. They already
-- they already submitted for a concrete wall, but the permit for the
addition hasn't been submitted yet.
MR. LETOURNEAU: And there's also a shed, so it's going to be
a total of three permits.
MS. NICOLA: I'll leave it up to you guys. I'm just -- I just think
we're complicating things a little big. And then we end up coming
back here on lots and lots of things.
MR. LETOURNEAU: The county always prefers one length.
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MS. CURLEY: Is the concrete wall also the fence?
MR. ASARO: Pardon me?
MS. CURLEY: Is -- the concrete wall that you're referencing in
Item No. 1, is that also what you're calling a fence?
MR. ASARO: No. That picture doesn't show the fencing to be
installed.
MR. LEFEBVRE: But the fencing isn't going to be incorporated
into the wall there that they're building?
MR. ASARO: To be honest with you, I don't know. I mean --
because when I looked up the permit, I didn't realize that they were
going to put a 6-foot fence added to that, but there's a permit for it.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Let me see if I can --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Let me try something. The
operational costs are, what, 59 what?
MR. BLANCO: That will be $59.70.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Seventy cents, okay.
So we need to know how long it's going to take to fix, and if they
don't fix it in that time frame, how much the fine is going to be.
I think -- anybody want to take a shot at how many days it should
take him to do this? Do we want to ask Jeff what he thinks the amount
of time that should be required to finish what they're doing?
MR. LETOURNEAU: Well, I mean, that addition's going to be
the hard part, obviously. I don't know if the shed meets setbacks. I
would say for all three items six months would be a, you know,
reasonable amount of time.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I was right about there.
So pay the operational costs in the amount of 59.70 within 30
days and receive a certificate of completion/occupancy within 180
days, or a fine of $200 a day.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Any second?
MR. WHITE: Second.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And we have a second. Any
discussion on that motion?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Hearing none, all those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. WHITE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
Thank you, Tony.
MS. NICOLA: I have a point of clarification on this. We also
have Part 2, which is the cease and desist portion. Are you guys going
to discuss that as well? Because the cease and desist is -- if I'm
understanding correctly, would apply to that Florida room, so he'd
have to cut off power to the Florida room. And how do you stop
people from -- that live in a house from going into their Florida room
even without power?
MR. LEFEBVRE: I missed that whole part.
Within seven days or a $200 fine for Part 2.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: If they remove the furniture from
there, I would consider that complying.
MS. NICOLA: So they sit on the floor without their furniture?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I mean, if they want to go out there
and sit on the floor --
MS. NICOLA: They're in their bathing suits on the floor without
their furniture? I don't know. It just seems a little odd to me. If you're
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occupying the whole house and we're going to cut off the -- I don't
know. You guys are the enforcers of this, but I'm just thinking
practically.
MR. WHITE: How would you guys typically enforce something
like that?
MR. LETOURNEAU: Honestly, it would be hard for us to --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It wouldn't be. You wouldn't do it.
MR. LETOURNEAU: It would be hard for us to enforce that
part of the order.
Have you spoken to these people, Tony?
MR. ASARO: Yeah. I've spoken to the property owner.
MR. LETOURNEAU: And when was the last time that you
talked to them?
MR. ASARO: It was about -- I think about two weeks ago.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Did you mention this part to them?
MR. ASARO: I don't believe we discussed that part. I thought
she was going to show up to the hearing.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Okay. All right.
MR. ASARO: Because she said she was going to be here.
MS. CURLEY: Does she live there?
MR. ASARO: Yes.
MR. LETOURNEAU: I think that just taking out the use would
be fine, and getting rid of the electric at this point would be sufficient,
if it's okay with the Board. So, like, turn the electric off, because that's
the safety issue, and -- within seven days of the hearing. Whatever
Gerald recommended.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Seven days or a $200 fine, but it's going to be
hard to police. I mean --
MR. LETOURNEAU: It is. I mean, we can go out there at Day
8, and it could be off, and we're not going to be, you know, monitoring
it daily to see if they've got the electricity off.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have these all the time where
they convert a garage. How are you supposed to see if someone's
sleeping in there at night?
MR. LETOURNEAU: Right. I think we started doing this when
Mr. Lavinski started questioning stuff, and then we just got used to
adding it on there. I don't know if you guys want to keep -- continuing
doing that.
MS. CURLEY: No, I like it, because you list, like, the circuit
breaker. I mean, because, like, some people would think they would
have to go and have an electrician remove all the wires and stuff when
that's not the case. I mean, you can only do so much.
MR. LETOURNEAU: We hope it's just a circuit breaker. We
hope it was put in correctly, yes.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah, with a separate circuit.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Right.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. There's no bathroom that's
involved in this?
MS. NICOLA: I haven't ever seen a Florida room with a
bathroom, but maybe --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, no; in the addition.
MS. CURLEY: Hey, convenience.
MS. NICOLA: I don't know.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Yeah, you can't flush.
MR. LETOURNEAU: Have you been in the structure?
MR. ASARO: I haven't been on the inside.
MS. NICOLA: You can go to your Florida room, but you have to
sit in the dark, and you're not allowed to use the restroom. We'll put
that in the order for today. Sorry, people.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I amended my motion, so the second will
have to.
MS. CURLEY: Yeah.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. His order was amended,
okay.
All those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. WHITE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
And the last case for the day?
MR. BLANCO: Mr. Chairman, just for clarification. So Line 2,
it's just seven days to turn off the electricity, correct?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's correct.
MS. CURLEY: And the fine?
MR. ASHTON: 200.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: $200 a day is the fine; 180 days.
MR. BLANCO: ***Next item on the agenda is No. 7, Case No.
CESD20170020080, LSF9 MSTR Participation Trust.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: That's master. That's an abbreviation
for master. This goes back to December. Alteration work on the
interior of a main structure.
Okay, Tony. You're up.
MR. ASARO: Thank you. For the record, Tony Asaro with the
Collier County Code Enforcement Department.
This is in reference to Case No. CESD20170020080 dealing with
a violation of the Collier County Land Development Code, Ordinance
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04-41, as amended, Section 10 zero (sic) point 02.06(B)(1)(a),
10.02.06(1)(E) (sic), and 10.02.06(B)(1)(e)(i).
The property is located at 4070 29th Avenue Northeast, Naples,
Florida, 34120. Folio No. is 4006460000 (sic).
Service was given on January 19th, 2018.
I would like to present case evidence: Nine photos taken by
Supervisor Chris Ambach on December 29th, 2017, and an aerial of
the property.
MR. LEFEBVRE: I have a question or -- on the certificate of title
it states that -- U.S. Bank Trust NA, as trustee for LSF9 Master
Participation Trust. My wife works for U.S. Bank. Does that have --
MS. CURLEY: No.
MR. LEFEBVRE: -- any bearing on me voting on this?
MS. NICOLA: I have no idea. You're asking me a question I
can't answer.
MS. CURLEY: Is your clandestine name LSF9 Master?
MR. LEFEBVRE: It is not. It is not. But, I mean, I'm just saying
--
MS. NICOLA: It doesn't seem like a conflict to me, but --
MR. LEFEBVRE: Okay. Very good.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: You promise when you go home
tonight, you're not going to talk to your wife about this case? You're
okay.
MS. CURLEY: Wait. I didn't see the photo. I'm so sorry.
MR. ASHTON: They haven't been approved yet.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I'll take a motion to accept the photo.
How many photos do you have, Tony?
MR. ASHTON: Motion to accept.
MR. ASARO: There was nine.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Nine photos, okay.
MR. WHITE: Second.
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CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. WHITE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: It carries unanimously.
MR. BLANCO: There's nine photos and an aerial.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Nine photos taken by?
MR. ASARO: Supervisor Chris Ambach.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I see him. He's right there.
MR. ASARO: On December 29th, 2017, Chris Ambach
observed interior modifications to the main structure without obtaining
Collier County building permits.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Can I stop you one second?
MR. ASARO: Sure.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: How did he get in?
MR. ASARO: I was going to go -- he got in with an entry
consent form provided by the tenants --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Got ya.
MR. ASARO: -- that live there.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. ASARO: Supervisor Chris Ambach has advised a
representative with WRI Properties -- he's had several conversations
with them. It's WRI Property Management -- to obtain all required
Collier County building permits for the interior renovations.
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To date we have had no contact from the property owner. He has
requested contact from the property owner. We have not heard from
them.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: I see Sheetrock, paint. Is there any
electrical involved or plumbing?
MR. ASARO: I would have to ask Chris -- Supervisor Chris
Ambach to come up here and --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And he's approaching you as we
speak.
MR. ASHTON: It looks like they're doing some electrical.
MR. ASARO: He has firsthand knowledge.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: They're putting gem boxes in the
ceiling, I guess.
(The speaker was duly sworn and indicated in the affirmative.)
MR. AMBACH: Yes, there was exposed electric. The ceiling
was completely torn out and placed back up there. And, according to
the complainant, the tenant, no insulation was used when they put that
back up.
I posted a stop work order immediately, met with the chief
building inspector who said, yes, permits are required for that type of
work. On top of it, there was a major leak from the hurricane, and the
tenant said, "Did you find the leak? Did you fix the leak?" and they
said, "No. We didn't see a leak, so we're just going to replace what
was damaged," so...
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay.
MR. AMBACH: And I was in contact with several people from
Amerivest and a couple other companies. As a matter of fact, the one
woman I did talk to, she disagreed with the chief building official's
assessment and said that we don't need permits, and we never heard
back from them. To this day it remains.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: The owner of the property?
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MS. CURLEY: The bank.
MR. AMBACH: The management company.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: So their tenants send their rent into
that company.
MR. AMBACH: That's correct. And I believe that the tenant
finished the painting. I don't know what the -- this was -- I haven't
been on this case in months, so I'm not sure what it looks like now.
MS. CURLEY: I mean --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: They're putting crown modeling up.
MS. CURLEY: And this is tricky because if the property
management company is not being compliant or helpful in any way, it
makes you wonder if there's a -- do they really know the owner? I
mean, this has been bank-owned since 2014. That's very -- really
unusual. Banks don't like to be property management companies.
So why this is in a rental pool of some sort instead of being sold
off is confusing.
MR. LEFEBVRE: As trustee; the bank's as trustee, so...
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. Well, they'll figure this out
after we do our thing.
MS. CURLEY: Yeah.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Thank you, Chris.
MR. AMBACH: You're welcome.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. So based on what Chris just
said, do we think a violation exists?
MR. ASHTON: Make a motion a violation exists.
MR. WHITE: Second.
MS. CURLEY: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion and a second. All
those in favor?
MS. ELROD: Aye.
MS. CURLEY: Aye.
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MR. DOINO: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Aye.
MR. LEFEBVRE: Aye.
MR. ASHTON: Aye.
MR. WHITE: Aye.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Opposed?
(No response.)
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Carries unanimously.
Do you have a suggestion for us?
MR. ASARO: Yes, I do.
The Code Enforcement Board orders the respondent to pay all
operational costs in the amount of $59.70 incurred in the prosecution
of this case within 30 days and abate all violations by obtaining all
Collier County building permits for all unpermitted interior work or
demolition permit, to restore the structure to its original condition,
inspections, and certificate of completion/occupancy within blank days
of this hearing, or a fine of blank dollars a day will be imposed until
the violation is abated.
The respondent must notify the code enforcement investigator
when the violation has been abate in order to conduct a final inspection
to confirm abatement. If the respondent fails to abate the violation, the
county may use -- the county may abate the violation using any
method to bring the violation into compliance and may use the
assistance of the Collier County Sheriff's Office to enforce the
provisions of this order, and all costs of abatement shall be assessed to
the property owner.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. I'd like to say one thing.
Since you've been unable to contact the, quote, owner, unquote, I
would suggest that any motion limits the amount of time that we're
going to give them to respond, because if you can't get ahold of them,
we're wasting our time giving them six months or two months or
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whatever. I would hardly recommend one month.
MR. ASHTON: I agree.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: And I leave that for someone to
make a motion now and fill in the blanks.
MR. ASHTON: I'll take a shot at it.
Make a motion that the 59.70 be paid within 30 days and obtain
all required Collier County building permits within 30 days, or a fine
of $200 per day be imposed.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a motion. Do we have a
second?
MR. DOINO: Second.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: We have a second.
Any discussion on the motion?
MS. CURLEY: Just a question. So do you also send this
notification to WRI Property Management in hopes that -- since we
know --
MR. ASHTON: The notice of violation -- I have to look at my
notice. Hang on one second here.
MS. CURLEY: Could we, so we can at least get some help for
the tenants?
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Well, this is going to go to the same
people who pay the taxes. That's our rules, so...
MS. CURLEY: I know, but times before we've sent it to, like, the
personal representative when we know that they're not getting it. If
their address they're using -- you know, a tax payment address for a
trustee of a bank, it's --
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Why don't we leave that to Tony to
figure out who he's going to send it to; every possible person --
MS. CURLEY: Just make sure that the right people get it.
MS. NICOLA: The address that I have is in San Diego. So I
would say somebody local is not going to receive it unless we can have
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a local address to send a copy of the order to, which I'm happy to
include whoever in the order to copy them on. Just give me whoever --
just call my office, and I'll add it to the order, no problem.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: Okay. We voted? Done.
Okay. Any additions to the agenda, Danny?
MR. BLANCO: No, sir. That's all.
CHAIRMAN KAUFMAN: See you guys all next month.
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There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 11 :48 a.m.
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