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Nnplos~ Florida, March 24, 1981
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County Commissioners In
and for the County of Collier, and also acting as the Governing
Board(s) of such special districts as have been created according to
law and having conducted business herein, met on this date at 9:00 A.M.
in. Regular Session in Building "F" of the Courthouse Complex with the
following members present:
CltI\IRMAN:
.John A. pistol'
VICE-CHAIRMAN:
Clifford Wenzel
C.R. "Russ" Wimer
Mary-Frances Kruse
David C. Brown
ALSO PRESENT: .William .J. Reagan, Clerk, Harold L. naIl, Chief
D.puty Cl.rk/Fiscal Officorl Elinor M. Skinner and Parlene DAvidson
(1:30 P.M.), Deputy Clerks¡ C. William Norman, County Managerl trving
Berzon, Utilities Manager; Donald A. Pickworth, County Attorney; Kerry
McQuinn, Assistant County Attorney; .Jeffory Perry, Zoning Director;
Clifford Barksdale, Public Works Administrator/Engineer; Lee Layne,
Planner; M~rtha Skinner, Social Services Director¡ Terry Virta,
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'Com~G~1ty Development Administrator; Grace Spaulding, Administrative
Aide to tho Board; and, Deputy Chief Raymond Barnett, Sheriff's
Departmont.
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AGEND~ - APPROVED WITÛ ADDITIONS/DELETIONS
Commissionor Wenzel ~oved, seconded hy Commissioner Kruse and
unanimously carried, that the ðgenda be approved with the f~llowing
additions and deletions:
a. Discussion re Data Processing for ne~t week's ðgenda - Ðdðod
(lO-C) .
b. Discussion for additional Planning Dept. direction re
redistricting - added (BCC).
c. Consideration of ordinance amending section 110-2-C, supple-
ment to electrical code and fee schedule as adopted by
Ordinance ð11-54 - withdrawn by request of Community Devel-'
opment Division, to be brought back as part of updated code.
d. Imperial Golf Estates, Phase /., acceptance of water line _
added (llC).
e. Further consideration of employee posit"ion classification and
pay plan reI Fire Dept. personnel - continued to 3/31/81
(cont'd. from 3/17/81).
SOCIAL SERVICES CASE tW-80fi8 - APPROVED IN THE AMOUNT O~ $4,66S.R5
Social Service Director Martha Skinner responded to questions
regarding the physician fee charges by stating that case IW-8068
required two surgical procedures, that the amounts charged represented
a reduced charge from current hospital charges, and that the amount
requested is in toe departmental budget.
Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commis3ionor Kruse and
carried unanimously, that Social Services Case IW-8068 be approved in
the amount of $4,665.85.
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RESOLUTION 8Þ-73 RE PETITION TO V!\CATE TltE SIXTY FOOT BISECTING '.':.. ~,~~:·':_~"·:~'~:I';¡·
EASEMENT WIT!IIN 'fRACT 132, UNIT 97, GOLDEN G^TE ESTATES, RE PLAT BOQK ' .:-;-
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Legal notice hewing been publinhed in the Naples Ddly News on " ~;;.¡
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March 8 and 15, 1981 and in the Golden Gate Eagle on March 13, 1981 as
evidenced by Affidavits of Publication frred with the Clerk, public
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hearing was held to consider 1I proposed resolution to vacate the sixty
foot bisecting easem~nt within Tract 132, Unit 97, Golden Gate Estates
in Plat Book 7, page 96, public records, Collier County, Florida.
Public Works !\dministrator Clifford Barksdale explained that a
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petition to vacate the sixty foot bisecting easement within said
property in Golden Gate Estates h~s becn received from the landowner,
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that WMAB recommended approval administratively for said petition, ~nd
that letters of "No Objection" f.rom ~ffccted utilitycompanjes have
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becn received. He said that the bisccting f:asements were originally" ,",
granted to future landowners from G!\C¡ that the methodolgy of vacations
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prescribed in the documents, which established the easements, was that
letters of "No Objectio~" could be secured from contiguous landowners
and that a document could be filed which would serve to vacatft the
easement. Mr. Barksdale e~p1ained in detail the situation which
prompted Florida Power and Light Company's attorney to recommend that
the County go through Chapter 177 proceedings for vacations, which is
the advertised public hearing and vacating of a plat. He described the
research which resulted in the discovery that the easements, within the
unit of land in question, were Quit Claim deeded by the County back to
GAC, but the easements were really never granted to the County, they
were granted to the future landowners, he,said. Mr. Barksdale
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explained that because of thA forogoing reasons the public hearing is
taking place today.
Mr..John Lfdgard asked what the petitioner planned to build on the
property and Mr. Barksdale explaineð that, the property is zoned for
single family homes.
Mrs. .Joyce Hancotte stated she was in favor of granting the
vacation, but requested that the 31 affected units in Golden Gate
Estates, each unit having more than 100 tracts, be given some
consideration since, if the forcgoing proceduro is followed each time a
vacation is requested, approximately 3100 people could be required to
pay the $100 filing fee. After continued discussion Commissioner Kruse
agreed that the situation was a problem and explained she had received
calls from two real estate firms asking if the County could do
something about the bisecting easements.
~! Chairman pistor explained that the Count'l has to pay to legally'
research each individual's property and correct the deed, which repre-
sents considerable cost. Mr. Barksdale explained that approximately
99\ of the easement vacations do not come before the Board, and that
only if there is a problem with contiguous landowners' permission to
vacate or if the attorney representing the people advises that a
petition be filed to remove any cloud to the title is the $100 filing
fee necessary. Mr. Barksdale explained the attempt which WaS made to
resolve the problem two years ago, but no procedure ;;0 accomplish
blanket vacation of all easements was achieved. Mr. Barksdale was
directed to work with the County Attorneys to pursue an easier method
~f achieving the easement vacations.
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Commissipner Wenzel moved, seconded b~ ~ommissioner ~ruse ðnd,
carried unanimously, that the public hearing be closed.
Commissioner Wenzel moved, seconded by Commissioner. Kruse and
.carried unanimously, that Resolution Bl-73 authorizing vacation of a
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Estates be adopted.
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March 201, 1961
PETITION V-an-19-C, CAXAMBI\S RE1,LTY, INC., REQUESTING A V^RI^NCE TO TilE
MINIMUM r^nXING RF.OUIRF.MENTS FOR ^ PROPOSED snOPPING CENTER-DENIED
Leg61 notice havin9 boen published in the Naples Daily Nows on
February 22, 1961 a8 evidenced by Affidavit of Publication previously
th the C1er~L-P~~~~e~rinq was continued f~om March 10. 1981
to consider Petition V-60-19-C, filed by Caxambas Realty, Inc. re a
variance to the minimum parking requirements for ð proposed shopping
center.
Zoning Director Jeffory Perr~ referred to the F.xecutive Summary
dated 3/23/81 comparing the parkin9 requirements of th~ previous ðnd
c~rrent parking regulations and the petitioner's requested variance.
He explained that the petitioner is proposing a 408,000 square foot
retail shopping area, classified as a regional center; that the current
ordinance requires one (1) parking space for each 175 square feet which
would resul t in the need for 2,332 parking spa<.:es for, the proposed
shopping center. Mr. Perry explained the old parking regulations would
have required 1,035 parking spaces and that an Urban Plannin~ and
Design Criteria manual, 'used as an information source, identifies a
regional center as a site which encompasses a minimum of forty (40)
acres which is the amount of land in question. He said that the floor
area ratio to building to land area would require 4,000 parking spaces
for a 400,000 square foot shopping center, and he explained that the
petitioner is requesting one parking space for every 250 square feet,
which would be 1,632 parki~g spaces, or ð 700 space variance based upo?
a proposed 408,000 square foot shopping center. Mr. Perry stated that
the staff maintains that no ,hardship has been shown for the variance
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and that the variÐnco should be denied.
Commissioner Wimer asked if tho U.P.D.C. manual rocognized a
square footage difference between a shopping c~nter a'nð a shopping mall
to which Mr. Perry answered negatively. Commissioner Wimer noted that
the petitioner felt if he did not place a roof over his particular
shopping center he w~s well within the 11mits of tho p~rking r¿gula-
tions, and Commissioner Wimer expressed his opinion that more rese~rr.h
needed to be done on the subject. Chairman Plstor noted that the
formula mentioned earlier would require 4,000 parking spaces and that
the standard of Collier County which would require 2,332 parking spaces
would be approximately half that recommendation.
During the ensuing discussion the following points were made:
1. An enclosed mall, i.e. Coast1and Center, generates traffic
above the amoun~ of people who come for retail trade, i.e.
scheduled special events, as well as service vehicles and
employees' automobiles.
2. Mr. Virtð' noted City of Naples' parking standards rcquire
more spaces than the County ordinance provides, i.e. grocery
store is 10 spaces for every 1,000 sq. ft.
3. The County parking ordinance recognizes one standard for a
shopping center¡ some ^reas stipulate regulations three
classifications, convenience centers, strip centers and
regional centers, Mr. Virta said.
Commissioner Wimer noted he felt there was a tremendous problem in
Collier County with the lack of parking at convenience stores and
suggested the requirement should be increased for smaller canters. In
response to Chairm~n Pistor, Mr. Virta said the amenument passed last.
su~mer affects everyone, but in some instances that increase may not
h:'l V C he c I)-!'.~ e a l)i!J:JL.~r:l.lI'\j1i.§.LQ.D~.U.u!JlQL..1L~1.t~Ù;L,.b!LJ!..q~.1lLlU5~ e
parking requirement for convenience stores to be reviewed. Mr. Virta
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noted the national ~tandard has beon decreasing over the year., I.e 7
spaces per
Mr. Kermit Quaintance, President of Caxambas Realty, Inc.,
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t:xpl¿dn~d sonltl compariHon pørklng requirements which he had reseac.ched
regard ing various counties aTII:J communi ties near Naples. He explalne.d
no land beyond the 40 acres owned can be purchased, and that one
parking space for every 250 sq~are fcet is the minimum his firm felt it
could provide, ,because at least tw'o· (2) department stores are antic-
ipated And one (1) store would take an average of 125 spaces per unit.
He stated if the current regulation of one (1) for every 175 square
feet would be used, the reduction to 350,000 square feet in the
shopping center area would be necessary. A discussion followed during
which the following points were made:
1. The current required size of a parking space in Fort Myers,
Naples and Collier County is 10' by 20'.
2. Zoning of adjacent land prohibits purchasing additional
property for ~he proposed shopping center.
3. Mr. Quaintance provided ,a ]o·...er variance request to Mr. Perry
from last week's variance request.
4. Currently there is a consideration to change the parkirg
space size to 9' by 18', according to Mr. Virta, but that
would not "pick up" the 700 spaces that this petition
reque~ts.
5. Mr. Quaintance explainod if the design for his shopping
center would exclude a covored walkway, more parking spaces
would be "picked up", b~cðuse the corridor squaro footage
would not be counted in the shopping center size.
6. If the walkway is not covered, the proposed shopping'center
would still not meet the parking requirements.
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The locaLion of the proposed £hopping center 10 favorablø for
use by tho public; parking andtraf~ic generation lire major
problems; and if the requircments are lowered in one
instance, othcr requcsts will be received which would not be
a positive factor for the County.
8. The grocery store requirements for parking would be provided
based upon said store's square foot ðrea, the variance
rcquest applies only to the 'remaining portion of the shopping
center size.
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9. Mr. Quaintance requests to provide 1920 parking spaces
considering all the calculations; currcnt parking ordinance
requIres 2620 parking spaces, a difference of 700 parking
spac e s.
Commissioner Wimer asked Mr. Quaintancc if the regulations to
reduce the parking space size to 9' by 18' from 10' by 20' were
realized would that possibility solve the problem, and Mr. Quaintance
stated it would help but the firm would still be unable to build a
400,000 square foot shopping center.
Chairman pistor explained that the Board has tho firm's interest
at heart, but the ~ommissioners have to consider the major problem
which parking represents. Hearing that no persons were registered to
speak on the petition, Commissioner Wenzel moved, seconded by Commis-
sioner Kruse and carried unanimously, to close the public hearing.
Commlssioner Wenzel moved, seconded by Commissioner Kruse and
carried 3/2, with Commissioners Brown and Wimer opposed, to accept
staff recommendation and deny Petition V-BO-19-C, Caxambas Realty, Inc.
requesting a variance to the minimum parking requirements for ð pro-
posed shopping center,
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GTATE ATTOnNEY REQUERT FOR NEW ^ND nEVISEQ P^RTITIONS IN EXISTING AREA
OF BUILDING "F", ~TII FLOOn, INCLUDING IIALLW^Y USE - APrROVF.Ds
APPROXIM^TF.LY $3,1\55 EXPF.NDITURE AND PREPAMTION OF TilE NECESSARY
nUDGET ^MF.NDMENT - ^UTHOnIZED
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States' ^ttorney Pellecchia explained th~ remodeling requests
within the confines of the State Attorney's ~ffice and the request for
expansion of the office into the adjacent hallway. He explained that
in Collier C~unty last ycai the State Attorney's office filed 42\ more
felony charges, i . e. 612 cases as opposed to 431 cases for the year
before; and thero was an increase of 14\ in the number of juvenile
CÐses prosecuted. He said since January 1', 1981, four add it ional
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clerical personnel have been hired¡ for the past nine months there have'
been five investigators instead of the usual three, working full time
from the State Attorney's office; and, on April 1, 1981, an attorney
from the State Attorney's Punta Gorda staff will be transferred to this
office to handle the increased felony caseload. Mr. pellecchia stated
that for the first two months of 1981 the caseload is ahead of 1980,
therefore increased office and storago space is necessary.
Mr. Pellecchia referrcd to Diagram 1 which was included in the
Executive Summary dated March 13, 1981, and explained the proposed
remodeling requests which would result in expanding the office into the
eastern wing of the hallway. He indicated on an enlarged diagram on an
overhead board the present location where the State Attorney and the
Agriculture Department store supplies in the hallway adjacent to the
offices. He located ð proposed wall at D7 on the Diagram I and ~ door
which would enclose the hallway and give the State Attorney's Office
'access from the stairwell. Mr. pellecchia noted that the Fire Marshal
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gave approvDl of the mOdificati?n over a year ago. He said that the
proposal is to move the Agrlcul turC' ::>ep~n.ment' s mimeograph machine, .j:
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and some equipment used on ð daily basis, which is currently located at )
the far end of the hallwny near tho stairwell, to an area closer to the
Agriculture Department's front ðoor. .He said if thore is an overflow
of storage, he, felt that some arrangements could be provided for
storage within the State Attorney's office for that department. The
new door wo u 1 d be locked due to the felony and juvenile files which
would be storerl in the area. He described tho major modification which
would result in a library being provided from the present storago
space, and the division of the present library into three offices.
Mr. Pellecchia concluded by saying the aforementioned plan is only
for short term expansion, with the cost to be approximately $3,455, but
he said he would be sorprised if the modifications would provid~ the
staff requirements beyond a year. He noted some incidental expenses,
which would result from moving the mag card machine and the promised
system computer termin~ls to a different locale in the office.
1\ short discussion followed during which Mr. Pellecchia expanded
upon the Fire Marshal's approval of enclosing the hallway and he
explained the door would only be locked at night.
Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Wenzel and
carried unanimously, that the State Attorney's request for
modifications anð revised partitions in existing area of Buil~ing "F-,
4t~ floor, including hallway use be approved ~nd that approximately
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PUBLIC HEARING RE 1IPPLICATION FOR W^TEr. ^ND SEWER UTILITY R1\TF. Clt1lNGES
BY G^C UTILITIES, INC. (1IVATAR UTILITIES, IUC. OF FLORIDA) - CONTINUED.
UNTIL APRIL l~, 19A1
Utilitios Manager Irving Berzon explained that on January 20,
1 01, at a Bo~rd ot County ðõmmi33ionc~-mccting, agreoment was
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reachcd with G^C which provided for the following:
1. G^C would be permitted to initiate the use of the requested
rates which worc in their original application, until a
public hearing WÐS held, which is being held this date.
2. GAC would provide the County with additional cost ðata in a
manner which is basically consistent with the format that is
used by the Public Service commission.
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prior to the public hearing, the staff would attempt to give
recommendations to the Commissioners with regard to the rate
request.
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Mr. Dorzon explained the information requested was received from
GAC on March 10, 1981 and that the County's consultant received the
material approximately the same day, which left him wlth very little
time to accomplish a detailed analysis and prepare a recommendation for
the Board. However, Mr. Berzon said he felt it was to everyone's best
interp.st to allow GAC and the consultant to make their presentations so
that some decision could be made on the following points:
1. If the ra tes should stand.
2. If adjustments in the rates are in order.
3. If the Board may deem some other action necessary.
Attorney B. Kenneth Gatlin, representing Avat.,,' Utilities,
formerly G^C Utilities, Inc., stated that the company was named GAC
Utilities at the time the application for a rate review was filed. He
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explainerl the a~pliction was filcd under the provisions of the
franchise under a reproduction cost basis. ne said GAC agreed to a
request from the BCC and staff that the information be re!i1ed by ,March
22, 1981, in compliance with the way it would be filed with the Florida
~ Public Service Commission, which would be on an original cost basis.
Mr. Gatlin stated that G^C still has the original application under
fair value on file, and the Company is not waiving its rights under
that franchise by filing the requested information. He said CAC's
position is that the second filing clearly substantiates the request of
the company for a rate increase. Mr. Gatlin asked that the following
documents be accepted into the record and marked as a composite Exhibit
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l. GAC Utilities Inc of Florida, Golden Gate Division,
^pplication Before The Board of County Commissioners of
Collier County, Florida, To Increas~ Rates Charged For Water
And Sewer Service - This document is unòer the fair value
formula. '
2. Avatar Utilities Inc of Florida, Formerly GAC Utilities Inc
of Florida, (Golden Gate Division) To Incre~se Rates Charged
For Water and Sewer Service, Testimony of William II. Hoelke
Regarding Application Based Upon Original Costs of Utility
Plant, March, 1981.
3. Avatar Utilities Inc of Florida. Formerly GACUtilities Inc
of Florida - (Golden Gate Division) re application to change
water utility rates in Golden Gate.
4. Avatar Utilities Inc of Florida Formerly CAC Utilities Inc of
Florida - (Golden Gate Division) re application to change
sewer utility rates in Golden Gate.
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GAC Uti1tie~ Inc of Florida Golden Gate Division,
Petitioner's Exhibit 1-5, Offering Statements of G~C
properties Inc., Developer - A required filing with the
Public Service Commission which has now been filed with
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has been filed with the Clerk and is being filed with the SCC.
Mr. ^ntone A. Reeves, III, witness for Avatar Utilities Inc. of
Florida, was sworn in by Chief Deputy Clerk Harold L. Hall. Mr. Reeve8~
testified that he was a Director, Vice-president and General Man~ger of
vatar ÜtTl~c5 Inc. ot FIòrTda. Mr. Gãt11n referred the Boård's
attention to Mr. Reeves' prepared statement contained in Exhibit 1-1,
and Mr. Reev~s summ~rized that statement as being a history of the
corporation since it was started in 1965, and the operation of the
~lants. Mr. Reeves explained the application for a rate increase was
necessary due to inflation and extreme high cost of power, labor, and
County tax cost¡ said tax cost having increased l147\ since the last
rate filing, which was based on a test year of 1975, and filed in 1976.
Mr. Reeves stated the company has not increased rates since the currcnt
proceedings were commenced.
t-Ir. t'lllliam H. lIoelke, witness for Avatar Util1t'1es Inc, Wo!lS sworn
in by Chief Deputy Clerk Harold L. Hall. Mr. Hoelke testified that he
prepared the financial exhibits and documents described as Exhibit 1-1
and summarized his prepared statement in said exhibit. He stated that
the original books and records of the company for the test year ending
May 30, 1980 showed a result in a loss, and consequently the company
needs increased revenues to produce a profit.
County Attorney Pickworth advised that the staff presententation
should follow, since many of the public's questions would t~ covered in
the testil1)ony.
Mr. Warren E. Silvermßn, representing Collier County, was sworn in
by Chief Deputy Clerk Harold L. Hall and apologized for the absence of
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books and records of Jvatar Utilities, Inc. on March 19, 19B1 but he
assured t~e Board a report would be prepared subsequent to the meeting.
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found in the "blue binders", which the Board has received as Exhibit 1.
Mr. Silverman stated that some errors were discovered when the repre-
sentatives of the company went through the re-statement, and he said if
the Board notes some discropancies or inconsistencies between the
initial and subsequent filing, the subsequent filing is the more
accurate of the two, with respect to historical cost. Hc said that
. using that subsequent filing, he visitéd Avatar at 2112 Gulf Gate
Drivey Sarasota, Florida, on March 19, 1981, and reviewed the books and
. records of the company. Mr. Silverman testified he found some errors
of numbers contained in the application for a rate increase for tariff
adjustment, and directed the Board's attention to Schedule E 2, of the
book entitled "To Change Water Utility Rates in Golden Gate" (Exhibit
1-3). He noted some of those errors in the operating income statement
by monthR for the year ended May 31, 1900.
Mr. Silverman drew the Board's attention to the following ques-
tions for which he has not received answers, and explaining that these
questions would be raised at this hearing, he said he would give the
Board the answers he had received, and he sugr,~sted that further
ans,wers are necessary.
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reporting period and the month of " Dec. 1979 aie questioned.
In each case, the amount reflected exceeds $1,200, while the
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Mr: ~ilverman stated he asked for an explanation for this
great differencc, and said the answcr he received was that
there was an allocation of retrospnctive insurnnce premiums'
adjustments for automobile, crime, and third party liability
coverage.
Mr. Silverman stated that rctrospective adjustments
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workmens' compensation; therefore, in order to normalize
these expenses, said expenses should not have been -all
buried" in the four or five months contained in the report as
reflected, but should have been allocated between the yoars
in which t:le ini tial premiums had been pa id. He stDted he
could not report to the Board whethor the expense reflected
represents an ongoing normal expense or whethor it is an
extraordinary expense which should be removed from rata
calculation.
2. Mr. Silverman said the cxplanation he had rcceived with
respect to customer records and collection expense was that
approximately $650 employees' salaries, charged to the
January expense by Golden Gate Water personnel in handling
customer records, wa~ normally charged to other expense
accounts or capitalized. Mr. Silverman stated the explana-
tion he received was that in January the manager went back
and corrected previous postings and charged all of the time
into the particular expense account¡ Mr. Silverman said he
received no details to substantiate that explanation.
3. Noting questions on the "generic side" Mr. Silverman said he
had asked for a breakout of the components of the $5,2B5
charged on the water side as a management fee. He stated
books and records are maintained in Sarasota at Florida City
\-later; Mr. Hoelke's office is in Coral Gahles, Florida, and
he said he thought there waS some reasonable rationale for
the component that gets charged to the water side for man-
agement expense, as well as an explanation of a comparable
amount charged on the sewer side in a similar account.
Chairman pistor asked if the customer records and customer
expenses included the salary or payroll clerk, since there was an item
noted "Payroll" at the bottom of the schedule. and Mr. Silverman
clarified the situation by stating that the "Payroll" item represents
tax computations, which arc correct.
Mr. Silverman explained similar discrepancies and questions which
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he discovered with rcgard to sewcr items which were listed in Exhibit
1-4, Schedulo L 2.
Mr. Silverman summarized the net effect of his invesitgations in
the last four days regarding CAC Utilities, Inc. rate rcview as
follows:
1. If the discrepancies, which he outlined, between the reflec-
tions of the books and records of the firm and the reports to
the Board, Dre found to be valid, the total operating costs
of the company would be lowered.
2. If the items of questioned expenses are found to be valid and
should be spread or removed, that situation would also tend
to lower the operating expenses reported to the Board.
3. When operating expenses ar~ lowered, the revenue requirements
that a utility must have an opportunity to generate is
reduced, in order for that firm to have the opportunity to
achieve the rate of return, which the Board will permit the
'firm to try and achieve.
Mr. Silverman stated that Avatar Utilities, Inc. has asked for a
14-1/2\ rate of return on equity. He stated that since 1975 this
utility has been v1rtually debt free, which is an extremely unusual
occurrence In regulated, small water and wastewater companies. He said
the reason that he drew the Board's attention to that fact is because
equity money is risk money, which traditionally cArries a higher rate
of return than debt money. Mr. Silverman said the net effect in this
case is that there is no debt and all equity, and that the provisions
of the franchise agreement establish a range of reasonableness between
8' an1 12\ on fair value rate base, as ð basis of th~ opportunity to
achieve a rate of rcturn for Avatar Utilities, Inc. Mr. Silverman
stated that the 14-1/2\ increase request by Avatar would fall within
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whether or not that rate return is reasonable for th~ purposes of the
. Golden Gate Division is a very hard question to answer. He described
the factors he used to ðrrive at his opinion, which he said was that
the 14-1/2\ return would fall at the high end of tho range of reason-
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sidered for,a decisi~n to be made regarding a rate of return request.
He suggested to the Board that not only are the expenses high but also
the income tax computation is on the high side. He said he had veri-
fication from the Collier County Tax Collector's office that the
collection of the taxes without protest or appeal by the utility had
been made. He stated in his opinion the rate of return that is
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company in the franchise agreement, since in the company's prepar~d
tes~imony 8\ has been requested, which is the based rate of return that
the Board has provided Avatar Utilities, Inc. an opportunity to
achieve. Mr. Silverman said he did not take issue with the requested
rate of return by Avatar Utilities, Inc., not withstanding all of his
previous commentary and suggestions. He stated, however, if ,the
adjustments which he suggested were made, Avatar would have to
recompute its revenue requirement and, in turn, re-do its rate
proposal, in order for them to be able to achieve the base rate of
return which they have requested.
***Commissioner Drown left room:, 10:45 h.M.; Returned: 10:50 A.M.···
Chairman pistor stated he had some misgivings about tying the
sewer rate to the amount of water used, especially in the area in
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question, because he said he rc~li2ed unle£s people have two water
metcrs there is a lot of water which is used for irrigating lawns, etc.
He asked if a 3,000 gallons per month maximum charge 'is realistic. Mr.
Silverman explained that trDdional1y thor~ is no reasonabl~ way to
measure wastewater through a small meter. lie said it has either been
flat-rated or based upon the w~ter volume. Referring to the ~erican
Water Works Association, he said th~t through a study by th~t organi-
zation over .many years criteria for developing sewer charges was made.
Mr. Silverman stated Avatar's pcrogative is rate design¡ the
Board's pcrogativc is to cstablish the rate of return and the level of
revenues necessary for them to have the opportunity to achieve that
rate of return.
Responding to Chairman pistor, Mr. Silverman stated the only
recommendation he could make is that the initial rates of return which
Avatar has requested overall are at the bottom end of what the Board
has established in the franchise agreement. He said he took issue with
Avatar's determination of their rcvenue requirement, because he thinks
the ~xpenses of the company are too high, and the revenue required m~y
be able to be lowered, which would impact on the rates.
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The following registered speakers spoke in opposition to 11 rate
increase for Avatar Utilities, Inc.:
Mrs. Libby Wilber
Mrs. Lillie M. Potter
Mr. Roy Brawner
Ms. Myrta J. Boring
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in 1970, Chairman pistor said the matter should be investIgated. ^ftor
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tho current and projected water rates, Mr. Berzon noted part ~f the
problem is the fact that the rates charged under the new tariff are
based on the size of Mr. Brawner's meter and the avai1abiity from the
system. Responding to Commissione~ Wenzel, Mr. Berzon said the size of
the meter as a base charge explains the increased projected rate.
County Manager Norman interjected that a smaller meter might be needed
in Mr. Brawner's case.
Mr. Borzon recommended that the pu~'tc hearing be continued for at
least another two weeks since the requested information was furnished
within the past ten days, which did not give ample time to prepare an
adequate recommendation to the Board, and because he feels questions
have been raised, which should be investigated with regard to the wðy
the franchise itself is being inte,rpreted. lie suggested at that time,
the staff return with a recommendation regarding the rates and any
oth~r appropriate matters which apply to the rate application.
Commissioner Kruse requested that anyone in the audience, who said
they have had a rate increase, take their bills to Mr. Bcrzon, and he
asked that those persons also bring prior bills for comparison.
Mr. Gatlin agreed to the continuation as long as the rates will bo
continued under the earlier ilgrecment. Mr. Berzon suggested that the
rates should be kept in effect until the April billing, which would
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have to be adjusted ðccording to the Board's d~cision.
Commissioner Wenzel moved, seconded by Commissioner Kruse and
carried unanimously that the public hearing for the fate review for GAC
Utilities, Inc. be continued for two weeks to April 7, 1981, ~nd ðt the
request of Avatar Utilities, Inc. the public hearing was continued
until April 14,1901. County Attorney p'ickworth noted that the purpose
for the continuation was to clarify the points which Mr. Silverman
raised, in ~egard to Avatar's revenue requirements, any questions that
the staff has regarding the franchise interpretation, and an unanswered
question regarding a rate increase two year's ago, of which the County
has no record.
Commissioner Wimer asked Mr. Silverman to explain the 3-1/2
mHlion dollar equity value Qn,' Mr. Silverman said that the total
common stock equity shown in the application was approximately 3.3
million dollars with no outstanding debt. He stated he would verify
those figures, and he explained that number represented total capital
stock, total equity investment, of ^vatar in the utility subsidiary
company, which would then be broken down between its two divisions,
water and sewer.
A short discussion occurred between Commissioner Wimer and Mr.
Berzon regarding the negotiations which transpired a few years ago with
regard to the purchase of the utility systems by the County. Commis-
sioner Wimer asked, with all the considerations, whether the County
should proceed with consideration of the acquisition of the system?
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effective as of the ^pril l, 19R1 billing, in order to give the cu£-'"
tQm.fU:..L~.D.Y.J?~-C!P t that could bA derived in the procedure. A short
discussion resulted in Mr. Bcrzon noting the agreemont made in January
allowed for the period to be "kept", since there is a substantial
amount of money on the part of the utility to go through rate applica-
tions. Mr. Catlin stated he did not understand that the original
agreement would mean the company would have any retroactive adjustment
on rates and he said any service rendered after the date on which the
Board rules would be applicable to the new rate, not any service prior
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Commissioner Kruse questioned Mr. Silverman regarding the com-
mercial rate structure.and the concept that when an establishment is
new there is a rate connected to the size of a line or meter. She
asked if the previous was rate structure based upon this same principle
and Mr. silverman said he was unable to anÐwer that question, because
he had not examined a rate proposal, since his'qucstions go to the
,heart of the revenue requirements. He said by April 14, he would have
an answer to Commissioner Kruse's question.
RESOLUTION 81-74 RE PETITION PU-80-lC, BETHEL A.M.E. CHURCH RE EXTEN-
SION OF "PU-1" OF "E" ESTATES ZONING DISTRICT UNTIL APRIL 15, 19R2 FOR
A CHURCH LOCATED BETWEEN 66TH AND 6~TH STREETS, S.W., ON NORTH SIDE OF
GOLDEN GATE PARKWAY - AOOPTBD
planner Lee Layne explained that petition PU-80-lC, requesting a
provisional use for the location of a church on the north side of
Golden Gate parkway between 66th and ~4th Streots, S.W. was approved on
April 15, 1980 and that the petitioners Are now completing payment for
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the site and lIrran<)irlg finc'lndn~ for the church building. She said
that since the petitioner has discovered he will be unllble to begin
ccnstruction prior to the expiration date of April 15, 1981, the stnff
recommends that the Board extend the provisionl1l usc until ^pril 15,
19B2.
Ms. Layne explained two letters which were given to her just
be~ore the Board meeting from Mrs. Dorothy Johnson and Mr. Wayne
Switzer which wore in opposition of the extension of petition PU-BO-1C,
and she briefly gave a synopsis of the letters, at Chairman pistor's
request. Mr. Robert W. .Johnson spoke in opposition to the petition.
Mr. Roger L. Simmons spoke in favor of the petition.
A discussion followed during which the point was made that other
churches have been granted provisional use in this area. County
~ttorney pickworth explained that the issue before the Board is whether
or not to extend a. provisional use \orhich has been' granted. Community
Development Director Terry virta said that the original approv~l was
for one year and that the ordinance provides that the Board may grant
an extension of one year. The point was made that the provisional use
expires only if construction is not commenced within the one year time
period and some questions wer~ raised as to what constitutes actual
construction. Mr. PIckworth said the Board has taken the action of
granting the original provisional use and that the considerations
should be if the reasons for dclay of construction are justifiable,
etc'.
--Cõmmïss1C)ne¡-Wenz~ï-mõvëd;-seëonded Cömmissioner Kruse and carried
unanimously, that Resolution 81-74 re petition PU-80-1C, filed by
Bethel A.M.E. Church, granting the provisional use extension for one
year of the "EW estates zoning until April 15, 1982 be adopted.
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RESOLUTION 81-75 RE PETITION PU:81-lC, CAPRI CHRISTI~N CHURCH, RE
PROVISION~L USE (3) OF RS-4 DISTRICT FOR 'A CHURCH LOCATED ON NE CORNER
OF CAPRI BLVD. AND HILO STREET ON ISLES OF CAPRI - ADOPTED WITH STIPU-
LATIONS.
Planner Lee Layne described, on and overhead board, the general
location of the proporty rcgarding pcbition PU-8l-lC, wherein Capri
Christian Chur~h rcquests provisional use (3) of the RS-4 district, for
a church to be located at the northeast corner of. Capri Blvd. and Hilo
Street on the Islcs of Capri. She road from the Executive Summary
dated 3/9/21 and explained that the CAPC recommended approval of said
petition on March 5, 1981 with stipµlations because of concern about
drainage.
The following four persons were registcred but declined to speak:
Mr. Dick Skidmore
Mr. .Joe Leadabrand
Mr. Lloyd W. Shepler
Mr. Daniel B. Shafer
Hearing that no one was present to speak in opposition of the
provisional use, Commissioner Henzel moved, seconded by Commissioner
wimer and carried unanimously, that Resolution 81-75 re petition
PU-81-1C, as filed by Capri Christian Church requesting provisional use
(3) of the RS-4 District for a church located on the northeast corner
of Capri Blvd. and Hi10 Strect on the Isles of Capri, be approved with
the f~llowing stipulations:
I. Detailed site drainage plans be submitted to the County
Engineer for review and approval prior to the issuance of a
bu1ding permit.
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2. Petitioner to comply with off-street parking requirements at
time of building permit application.
3. Any future signs shall be approved by the zoning Director.
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RESOLUTION 01-03 RE PLEDGING CREDIT OF COLLIER COUNTY Fon GOODLAND
WATER DISTn I CT - ADOPTED: TIIREE (3) LO\'l CON~TRUCTIONS BIDS - J\CCF:P'l'ED J
ST^RT OF CONfiTRUCTION UPON APPROVM, OF' PROJECT BY FmI1A - AUTIIORIZED;
PUBLIC I1EARING TO DF: HP.LO ON APRIL 28, 19R1 - AUTI10RI7.ED
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dated 3/16/81 which outlined the bids which have been received for the
three components of the construction for tho Good1and Watcr System. Ite
explained that in two cnses the bids were well under the engineer's
estimate and in the third case the bid was over the engineer's esti-
mate, also, that the total project cost would now be approximately
$108,000 over the original budget, which was approved by the ~nH^ for
the basis of their loan and grant to Collier County. lie explained the
following requirements which now face the County:
1. In order to preserve the bids which oxpire on J\pril ll, 1981,
the Board would need to give authorization for awarding the
contracts.
2. To mnke the contracts binding and valid, the FmH^ wants to
see evidnnce that the additional $108,000, or as much monies
as would be necessary to finance that amount, will be
available.
3. Tho County will havo to roturn to the Court for a supple-
mental bond valid~tion in the amount of approximately
$150,000, which will rcquire from 60 to 90 days.
On behalf of the people of Goodland, Mr. Berzon asked for the
following:
1. That the Board accept the bids as they are indicated in the
Executive Summary, in the amount shown and for the
contractors indicated;
2. That the Doard authorize that the general fund underwrite,
not extend actuùl monies, the ability for the County to
borrow, on short term basis, the amount of money necessary to
slltisfy the Pm!!A requir(!ment that th~ County has the total
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approached in order to borrow short tcrm money for three to six months,
that ,the contracts could be awarded; that construction could be
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started; and that the County Attorney could proceed with preparing
appropriate paperD for filing for ð validation of a supplemental bond
issue. Mr. Berzon explained that when he attended a special meeting
y thfto- Çe~k4e 1\~11odat;iel"l l?!st rr~y-ni-<J-Þ.-~J:I-&.~
Association 80ard urged, by unanimous vote, that the Board of County
commissioners proceed with the above plan of action. He referred to
the copies of letters from the Goodland Civic Association 'to the BCC,
which the Commissioners have received, and he noted that representa-
tives from the Association and the consulting engineer .were present to
apswer any questions the Commissioners might have.
In response to Commissioner Brown's question, Chief Fiscal Officer
Harold Hall said he found no problem with the aforementioned recom-
mendation. Hearing there was no one to speak in opposition, Commis-
sioner Wenzel moved seconded by Commissioner Brown and carried unani-
mously, that Resolution 81-83, pledging credit of Collier County for
the Good1and Water District be adopted and that the following three. (3)
low construction bids be accepted:
l. Part I- Transmission Mains - F. J. Siller & Company, Miami,
Florida - $113,656.00,
'2. Part II - Distribution System - Patterson & Wilder
Construction Company, Fort Myers, Florida - $186,174.00,
3. Part III - Ground Storage Reservoir and Pumping Station -
Westra Construction Corporation, Bradenton, Florida -
$663,000.00, - total construction cost - $962,830.00;
that construction of the project commence upon approval of the project
by FmHlI; and that a public hearing to be held on April 28, 1981.
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***RECF.SS: 12:05 P.M. - RECONVENED! l:30 P.M., at which time Deputy
Clerk Elinor M. Skinner was replaced by Deputy Clerk Darleno
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LE~SE FOR NORTH NAPLES SHERIFF'S SUB-STATION AUTIIORIZED FOR CH~IRMAN'R
EXECUTION
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Sheriff's Department planner Don Hunter explained that he has
reviewed the 1ease for the North Naples Sheriff's sub-station and found
it to bo satisfactory. In answer to Commissioner pistor he said that,
contrary to claims that have been made regarding the availability of
adequate space at less cost, he has found very few places that would be
the optimum size and still afford the amenities required for this type
of operation. He said that a smaller area is preferred over a larger
one and that he feels the subject building will be adequate for the
intended use.
There was a discussion regarding the use of a por~ion of the
proposed library rather than a leased building, during which County
Manager Norman explained that this was considered¡ however, it is felt
that the library building would not be considered suitable for use by
th~ Sheriff's Department for a sub-station. Ã1so discussed briefly was
the length of the subject lease, with Commissioner Wenzel commenting
that it seemed to him that a simple standard lease could have been
used. Mr. Hunter explained tha~ the subject lease is an edited form of
the County's library building lease and was prepared by the County
Attorney. Commissioner Wenzel stated that he prefers to see the County
house its faciliti~s in buildings that are owned by the County. and that
,he is not in ~avor of paying rent.' Commissioner Wimer concurred. The
land that the developers of Pelican Bay are committed to turn over for
use by the County as part of their PUD was also discussed, during which
plannor Loe ~ayne explained. that the land is committed on a phase by
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phase basis, specifically, the commitment 1s for 5 acres of land for
every 1000 units for which building permits arc drawn'. The length of
the commitment by the county regarding the subject lease was ~lso
discussed, during which Mr. Hunter said that the lease is for a
two-year period, is renewable at that time, and could, therefore, be
considered as a temporary arrangement for housing tho subject sub-sta-
tion.
Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Wenzel and
carried unanimously, that the lease for the Sherjffs' sub-station in
North Naples be approved and that the Chairman be authorized to execute
same.
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CONTRACTUAL ACREf.MENT WITH INTERNATIONAL SYSTEMS, INC., APPROVED FOR
CII^IRMAN'f) EXECUTION
Neil Dorrill, ^dmlnlstrative Assistant to the County Manager,
reported that representatives from ISI had originally requosted to make
a presentation to the BeC on February 24, 1901 and subsequent to that
request, the County Managor's office requested' ISI to include a renewal
request for their contract which has beon in an extension period since
August of last year. He said that ISI was also asked to give the
County Manager's office sufficient time to survey tho level of sorvices
rcceived by various Departments and, thus, the matter has been
scheduled for this morning's agenda
Mr. Dorrill said that a staff analysis and survey response of
service provided by the subject firm over the last 18 months is in
. accompaniment with the proposed contract and that conclusions, based on
the survey, indicate the following:
I. Of the responses received, only ja\ s~id that thoy
(Division Administrators, Department heads and Consti-
tutionAl Officers), have received some type of assist-
ance from ISI over the last IS months.
2. Of that 38%, two (2) departments had successful appli-
cations of $500,000 and $3,450, respectively.
3. Of the eleven (11) responses received, the overall
services of ISI were rated as follows: a) 18\ poor¡ b)
36\ fair; c) 18% good; and, d) 28% not responding
because no service was received.
4. No department or Constitutional Officer was in favor of
retaining ISI as a grants consultant.
5. 73\ were in favor of developing an in-house capability
for grants acquisition. Two departments were in favor
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departments.
Referring to ð contract review, Mr. Dorrill reported that the
contract ia not subject to negotiation; tho fee ($25,000) will remain
the same as in previous agreements1 and, there are two major changes in
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the proposed contract: a) thero is a requirement for paymont in full
upon execution of the contract '. and, "b) the client's responsibility to
initiate the extension period. Mr. Dorrill st~tcd that from the
County's perspective, both of these changes seem less advantageous than
previous provisions.
Mr. Dorri11 said that 'it would be advantageous to have as
aggressive a grants program as possible whicil could be attained by
having a full time employee with the responsibility for grðnts co-
ordination under the jurisdiction of the BCC, said grants person would
provide better coordination among County departments and agencies and
would establish direct personalized relationships among funding agen-
cies and the County. Therefore, said Mr. Dorri1l, it is staff's
recommendation that the Board deny the contract renewal with ISI for
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grants consu1ting¡ ñlso, that the development of a more aggressive
in-house approach,to grants coordination at similar costs now allocated
for consultive services be initiated contingent upon the availability
of funds in the current budget.
Ms. Deborah Baker, representing ISI, reported that 3ince the
County has engaged her firm, it has received a $20 return on every $l
that it has invested, and that ISI has been instrumental in tho County
receiving approximately 1.6 million dollars in grants that have not
required matching funds over the past four years for $75,000 in con-
tract~a1 fees paid to ISI. She gave a brief argument for not having an
in-house grants coordinator, including the fact that, based on the
$25,000 spent each year for ISI services it is not likely that the
County could duplicate the services received from ISI and still only
spend that amount. She noted that a skilled grants person would cost
the County well over $15,000 in yearly sa~ary, plus benefits, and that
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person would roquire additional expenditures with which to oporatp.
efficiently. Sho contended that under no circumstances could one
person have tho expertise in all areas that a firm as large as ISI has
readily available; neither would they have the monitoring capabilities
that ISI offcrs, in relation to daily changes in legislation that
affect grants, throuah its monitoring systcm which is bascd in
Washington D.C, She referred to recent budgot cuts of the Reagan
Administration and reminded the Aoard that grants money will become
harder and harder to come by in the future and that ~n in-house grant~
person would never be able to match the available resources that ISI
has to offe r.
Ms. Baker said that she does not agree with ,all of the statements
that Mr. Dorril1 has made and said that she believes the Executive
Summary dated 3/18/81, inclusive of the material in the corresponding
agenda package distributed to the Board, is not totally accurate nor is
it complete. She said that the information does not correspond with
the in~ut that ISI has gathered during the past months and that the
Departments that ISI have contact6d have related that they wish to
continue the services with ISI. She said that while it is true that
not every department and office in the County has been served by ISI,
the Board should conRider that IS! is not bound to serve all of the
needs of all of the County Departments.
Ms. Baker referred to Private Foundation Grants about which ISI
ha~ recently been developing an extensive knowlege and is a source from
which many grants will be coming in the fut~re. An in-house grants
person, she said, would not have that thorough knowledge to offer the
County. She also referred to the annual contract cost of $25,000 and
said that this has remained constant for Collier County even though ISI
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has raised their Annual feo to all new clients by approximately $2,000.
She also referred to the number of grants that were prepared by 151 and
Were successful during thp. extension period that Mr. Dorrill alluded to
oarlier and said that ISI completed this work in good faith. Sho said
t1i-.itõneõI-'tTiešcgrà~ùppíTcatTõ"n-Š- was not succ~šsfuT-bëcãüše,
without ISI's knowledge, the County submitted a duplicate application
for' the same grant w~lch lead to one having to be pulled out and the
County chose to pullout ISI's application. It has been learned by
I5I, she continued, that it is not likely that the County's application
will be funded. She said that ISI has always known that you cannot
submit two applications for grants to the same agency and this Is one
example of how the County could have benefited from ISI's experience
because the County, obviously, was not aware of this important fact.
Ms. Baker listed the various areas in which ISI in interested in
developing potential grants, including some that have' never been
explored. She said that ISI wished to renew their contact with Collier
County and feels that they have a lot to offer the County that could
never be available from the use of one in-house grants person.
Referring to the change in the contract regarding a one~time
payment of $25,000 upon execution of the contract, Ms. Baker said that
ISI would be receptive to changing this to 1/2 payment upon execution
and the remaining 1/2 in six months.
She explained that the affirmative obligation clause is included
because, as the recipient of the grants, the County is the hody who is
notified when and if a grant is accepted or rejected, and not 151. She
said that this provision Is also open to discussion if the Board
chooses. She emphasized the fac~ that this provision is in no way
meant to be considered as a provision that was added in an attempt to
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"trick" the BCC into missing ou~ on an exten~ion; ISI has boen involved
in extonsions with the County before, sðid Ms. Baker, ^nd would not
attempt to negate ðn extension in the future.
In conclusion, Ms. Baker read the remarks submitted by the Com-
munity Development Division in their reply to the aforementioned
survey, which lndicDted concurrence with many of the points that she
made during her presentation, including the fact that gr~nt money will
probably be limited in the next four years due to Federal Policy
changes. An experienced grant person, whether on an in-hou5e basis or
on a consulting basis like ISI, will be a must, she said, and that it
would be difficult to duplicate ISI's experience and expertise with one
in-house person¡ especially for $25,000. She said that the last remark
in the reply states that if the job is to be done right it must be done
with the appropri~te expertise and staff.
Commissioner Pistor said that he would have to hear from the staff
as he is not familiar with certain areas commented on by Ms. Baker,
including the part that ISI has played in obtaining Block Grants. He
said that he would like confirmation from the staff that IS1 did all of
the work claimed by Ms. Bakcr as it is his impression that certain
members of the staff prepared the grant papcrs and forwarded them. He
said, regarding the duplicated grant application, that this was an
unfortunate matter and resulted from a lack of communication within the
staff. Continuing, he said that the BCC authorized tho one that they
felt would do thc most good for the County when the problem of
---d upl-ï-ca tion--was-- broug h to- to-thtd r-at"t1!n ti·orr;----·
Commissioner Wimer observed that he can relate to many of the
things that Ms. Baker has just covered bccausc he can remember when the
Board tried thc in-house staff ðpproach to grant applications and what
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a dismol failure it waG at that time. He said that the only thing
accomplished was the initiatlo~ of the building of another laycr of
bureaucracy. Time and money wero exp~nded in order to train a person,
said the Commissioner, and he considers the attempt a failure. He
added that ISI's r~cord speakü for itself and suggested that the ~oard
put personal judgements and statements asido and base thoir decisioQ on
this record. He said that ISI has always maintained that it is
absolutely necessary that they have a good working relationship with
the staff; they cannot do it alone, nor can the staff do it alone. He
concurred that grant monies will be tighter and he would like to have
the specific needs of the County addressed by experts. Commissioner
Wimer said that he is in favor of renewing the subject contract with
some of the changes that have been suggested. He said that he is very
concerned with the idea of the, Board considering the premise of running
County Government based on a popularity contest amoni the County staff.
Ms. Baker interjected the statement that she does not presume to
indicate that ISI has a~cornplished all of the work mentioned withoút
the staff's help¡ that is impossible. She said that the staff has been
instrumental in doing a lot of the work¡ however, ISI has been there to
hanple the project development, the coordination of the forms, the
timing, and the knowledge of what certain agencies like HUD consider
priorities, etc.
Commissioner Kruse said that she concurs that grant funds are
going to get tighter; she does not believe that $25,000 will cover the
cost of an in-house grants person; and that the Board should consider
that, while they advocate developers keeping abreast of changes in
zoning regulations, they should also consider that the Federal and
St~te Government changes policies regarding grants almost daily and,
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thus, the County needs to have some way of monitoring these changes
faster than anyone based here in Collier County is capable of doing.
She also said that she feels this is a specialized field and cannot see
the Board adding additional persons to the staff to handle something as
precise as grant coordination.
Commi~cioner Wenzel said that he is hoping that all Federal
"giveawaysW programs will be eliminated. He said that he is concerned
that ISI will not be able to be as efficient as they ~laim if such
programs should become unavailable¡ however, he concurred with Comm-
missioners Kruse and Wimer that $25,000 per year will never cover the
cost of setting up an in-house operation. He said that if the contract
could contain a clause that would allow the County to cancel the
contract after a perio~ of 6 months if these "giveaway programs" are
cut and these funds are not available, he is inclined to go along with
the renewal with ISI. Ms. Baker said that this would not be feasible
as 6 months is not sufficient time to complete a great amount of
successful work. However, she assured the Board that the programs that
are being cut by tho Reagan Administration are aimed at eliminating the
kinds of programs that are really not necessary and might be considered
as "fringe benefit programs" adding that there will still be plenty of
sources for funds.
Commissioner Brown said that he has only praise for the work that
ISI has accomplished thus far, especially for the things that have been
developed for the Immokalee area. Deputy Chief Raymond B~rnett stated
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that because all of the grants for the Sheriff's Department have been
obtained from LEA A funding they have never used ISI's services.
However, he added, LEAA grants have been zero funded and, therefore,
the Shoriff's Department would like to be included in the purview of
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ISI's proposed services, if this is h~ceptllblo. lie roferred to the
possib1ity of using ISI's services to investigate a source of funding
for the construction of the new jail.
Community Development Administrator Terry Virta sðid that he
considers the point"suffië-iently clarified rË¡-gllrding-r:Ï1ecooperat on
and team relationship between his dIvIsion lIn~ ISI in the preparation
of the pre-applIcatIon for the Community Dev~lopment Block Crant. He
said that one item of InformatIon that needs to be brought out to set
the rccord straight is that the County does not have that grant yet.
Collier County hlls been invited to apply for the grant, said Mr. virta,
noting that pr~-ðpp1Ication acceptance usually implies that, if you do
apply, it will be granted¡ however, the final applIcation still remains
to be prepared and, until that is approved, the County does not
actually have that haIr a million dollars. Ms. Baker concurred on the
status of the Block Grant and with Mr. Virta's conclusion that once a
pre-application has been received and approved it usually means that it
will go through. She added that it has been ISIts experience that a
grant of thIs status has nevcr been turned down. She said that, unless
the County were to completely change the proposed project or make some
other drastic changes, she sees no reason for losing the funding,
commenting that ISI has never lost one at th~t point.
Commissioner Wimer moved that the contract be renewed on a 50/50
basis, (50\ now and 50\ in six months). Commissioner Brown seconded
the motion. After hearing Ms. Baker state that all entities ôf County
Government, including all Constitutional Officers, are included within
the subject contract, the motion carried 3/2, wIth Commissioners PIstor
and Wenzel opposed.
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STAFF AUTIIOIUZr.n TO INITINl'E PROCEDURES RE NEW POLICY FOR 1\BANDONED
VEHICLES; DEVELOPMENT OF RELEV1\NT ORDINANCE 1\ND PLACING TilE PRE5~NT
CONTR1\CTnR ON 3-MONTH TERMIN1\TION NOTIC~ - 1\PPROVEO
Administrative 1\ssistant Neil Corrill said that tho current
ordinance relating to abnndoned vehicles (Ch 67-1244) was adopted by
Special 1\ct of the Legislature in .July of 1967 and, that subsequent to
that time, the County entered into contracts with the following
gentlemen for wrecker service for thß disposal of abandoneð and/or
junked vehicles :
a. John Blue, (District I) .July 6, 1971
b. T.G.Reynolds, (District 5) April 2, 19fi8
c. Robert 11<111, (Districts 2, 3 and II) 1\ugust 20, 1970
Mr. Dorril1 stated that these identical contracts are for an
original term of 20 years commencing on the date of execution; that
each cont<lin additional options for two consecutive ten (10) year
periods, or a total, of forty (40) ycars¡ and, that termination of said
contracts can be initiated by either party giving written notice thrce
(3) calendar months prior to the cancellation date.
,Mr. Dorrill said that the present method of de8ling with abandoned
or junk vehicles has deteriorated and that only one of the original
contractor's is still operating his business. One of the contrflctors
is deceased, said Mr. Dorril1, and the remaining contractor has the
responsibility for Districts 2, 3 and ~, and whose contract has no
guidelines concerning charges for service. There are additional
inequities, he said, due to the additional geographical areas of
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Mr. Dorrill said that, the present Act is scheduled to be rQpe~leð
during the current session of the Legislature. Also, said Mr. Dorrlll,
in conjunction with this action, the following ~teps should be
undertaken to insure that a new policy will be implemented on the date
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1.
The one remaining contractor should be given throe
months notification of the impending termination of his
contract. '
2.
The staff should solicit all interesteð and qualified
contractors for the purpose of providing wrecker service
to the County to handle the abandoned vehicles.
3.
A new ordinance and policy should be constructed during
this interim period to incorporate the following,
becoming effective on the date that the current policy
is to be repealed:
a) Responsibility for service by geographic/population
areas.
b) Development of a rotating list of all intßrested and
qualified contractors similar to and in ,cooperation
with the policy currently utilized by the Sheriff and
Florida Highway Patrol for accidents.
c) Establishment of a set fee schedule to protect both
the public and the contractor.
Commissioner Wenzel moved, seconded by Commissioner Wimer and
carried unanimously, that the above-referenced staff recommenðations be
approved, ðnd that the staff be authorized to initiate all appropriate
measures outlined above regarding the County's abandoned vehicle
policy. Commissioner Wimer stated that hp. would like to thank the
staff for the manner in which they have followed through in solving the
aforementioned problem.
SOARD TO INTERVIEW ~ FIRMS RECOMM~NDED BY THE ~RCHITECT SELECTION
COMMITTEE RE GOVERNMENT CENTER EXPANSION PROJECT ON 3/31/01
William McNeel, of Polizzi/neery, delivered a report and recom-
mendation authorized by the Architect Selection Committee which has
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recently complr.t(!d tho· final evaluntlor. ratings based on interviews
held ~n 3/16/31 with qualified architectural firm5 interested in
services related to the proposed County Government Complex Expansion
project.
After explaining the process by which the various firms were
considered, from the time the various proposals werc received by the
County through the final interviews and ratings of each, Mr. McNeel
said that based on the PHI and PHII evaluation forms and a possible
perfect score of 1,950, the firms evaluated were rated as follows:
FIRMS
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I. H.J. Ross/The Ehrenkrantz Grqup
2, Watson and Company
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1,411
3. w.n. Frizzell Architects
1,404
4. Prindle, Patrick and Associates
1,400
Mr. McNeel stated that it is his recommendation that the Board
authorize negotiations with the firm at the top or the above-referenced
list based on the fact that the distribution of scores between that
firm and the number two firm is so large1 specifically, 167 points.
Commissioner Wenzel moved to accept the recommendation of Mr.
McNeel. lie added that he wants it made perfectly clear that, since the
County has already hired Pollzzi/lleery to perform the supervisory anci
coordination functions regarding this project, he will not voto to pay
any $tandard architectural fees to whichever firm is negotiated with
tha~ are inclusive of the standard fees for such services. lie said
that he knows what the standard fee is for that portion of a project
and that amount of architectural fees should be deducted. County
Manager Norman said that he understands that the contract will be
writton in such a way as to elimInato any duplIcation of sorvIcos.
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Howevor, said Mr. Normðn, thero arc areas where tho architect is going
to be rosponsible for the way the construction fits togethor as part of
his design and, therefore, he cannot be removed entirely from the
construction process.
Commis~ioner Wenzel said that he understands
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that the architect will be making normal job inspections which is
normal procedure. Mr. McNeel asked Commissioner Nenzel if he is
referring to the day-to-day on-site coordination of jobs and Commis-
sioner Wenzel agreed that he was, adding that he considers it
Polizzl/Hoery's job to coordinate all work performed by various
contractors. Mr. McNeel concurred.
The motion on the floor died for lack of a second and the
discussion continued. Commissioner Kruse aked Mr. McNeel if he is
recommending that the Boðrd not hear all four firms' presentation and
Mr. McNeel said that the Board still has the option t?'do so if they
wish. He said that the Committee's initial approach was to have the
firms "short1isted" and, originally, there were going to be three
firms recommended, all óf which would have beon qualified in the mind
of the Selection Co~mittee. However, he continued, because of the
point spread, it b~came apparent that the first firm was the best
choIce.
Commissioner Wenzel clarified that his intent was to automatically
proceed down the recommended firms, according to the ranking, if the
negotiations were not successful with the first.
Mr. McNeel said that the Selection Committee has followed, to the
letter, the State Statute governing competitive consultant negotiation.
There was a lengthy discussion regarding the manner in which the
recommendation has heen made, during which Commissionor Wimer said that
it was his impression that the Selection Committee-was to interview
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firms for the purposo of prepar~tion of a "sh~rt list", an~ not to rank
them or prcjudice the Dosrd with their recommcndntion as to whioh firm
should be considered the first choice, which he said, has been the
Board's responsibility in the past. County Manager Norman said that
bec~use of the close point values placed on each of the three firms on
the bottom of the rating scale, the Committee felt it would not be
prudent to remove the one firm from the bottom based on a difference of
only four points. This is when the Committee ~ecided to recommend only
tho top firm, said Mr. Norman, commenting thnt the Committee is only
trying to help the Board shorten the process. Commissioner Kruse said
that mp.mbers of the public have stated that the Board is abdicating
their final responsibility if they were to expend this much money
without really being sufficiently knowledgable regarding the respective
firms involved. She said that she feels that this is a valid point and
tends to agree that, if all five members of the Board are voting to
award the contract, then all five should at least listen to the firms'
proposals. Mr. McNeel said that this would have been done if the
Committee felt that they could have recommended any three of the four
firms as being equally qualifiod; however, the option to hear all four
firms' presentntions is open to the Board's discretion. Mr. McNeel
said that the Committee felt that the Board would arrive at the same
conclusion as they after the four weeks work in making this selection.
Commissioner Wenzel said that he understðnds that the Committee will
bring back the contract to the Board for review prior to its being
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automatically chose the number one firm. Mr. McNeel concurred, stating
that his proposal is not as much a selection for services as it is a
selection for negotiations toward arriving at an equitable fee for
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services and the Board's approval of the contract would be necessary
for engagement of any firm.
Cbmmissioner Wimer said that, historically, if the BCC authorizes
the initiation of negotiations with a specific firm, those negotiations
cont IIU~ until an equitablo arrangement has been reached. He said that
he would like to become familar with the firms before he votes to
negotiate a contract. He ~lso said that, historically, the solection
committee has always come back to the Board with a short list of firms
and that he is not aware of a policy change or any directive to change
this procedure. He said that he doesn't approve of the Board being
prejudiced on account of a recommendation for first choice from the
committee, nor, would he like to see any political motivation involved
in the choice of a firm for this project. The discussion continued
and, when asked if the Board ever authorized ncgotiat~ons with the
first choice of a committee in regard to engineering projects, Public
Works ^òministr~tor Clifford Barksdale explained that the law provides
for the selection commi~tee to conduct the interviews and make a
rccommendation based on their ranking and the Board has the option of
hearing the prcsentations of those firms on a short list and making
th~ir own selection of ratings for the top firm on that list. He said
that in the road projects the presentations were made to the Board and
then the Board authorized the staff to conduct the negotiations with
their first choice. Commissioner Wimer said that, although the Board
has this option, in this particular case the Board will have to
overturn something that has already been done. He said that, if it is
necessary, he would like it put down in writing that the Board shall
mako its own choice of ratings and the staff will then be authorized to
enter negotiations with that choice. County Manag~r Norman said that
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if the policy of the Board is that specific, be did not recall that it
was. Commissioner Wimer said that it is not in writing but that it has
been a standard proceduro for the six years that he has becn aware of.
County Managor Norman said that he did not know the ß~ard has not
r~ceived a recommendation in this manner commenting that the Committee
used a technique that Polizzi/Heery recommended. no added that he
understands Commissioner Wimer's feeling that "the harm has been done"
if, in fact, there has becn any harm done. He said that he felt that
the numbers of the rankings were so dramatic that the Board should be
made aware.
Noting that the motJon died for lack of a second, Commissioner
Wimer made the motion that the Board interview the four firms outlined
in the above-referenced recommendation on 3/31/81. He said that the
presentations should be limited to fifteen minutes. Commissioner Bro~m
seconded the motion' which carried unanimously.
There was a brief discussion as to the time for the interviows,
during which it was decided that the staff set the time of the
interviews to begin at 2:00 P.M.¡ that each presentation be 15 minutes;
6nd, that an additional 15 minutes be allotted for each firm to answer
questions from the Board.
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FINAL PLAT ~PPROV^L ON TRACTS M, L, 0 & .J, & REPLAT OF TR^CT X, PINE
WOODS SUßVDIVI9ION - ~R^NTED, ~SCROW ~GREEMENT ACCEPTED
Upon completion of tho reading by planner Leo Layne of tho
contents of the Executive Summary dated 3/9/81, Commissioner Wimor
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moved, seconded by Commissioner Drown and carried 3/1, with
Commissioner Kruse out of the room and Commissioner Wenzel opposed, .
that the Final Plat of Tracts M, L, 0 & .J, and the rep1at of Tract K,
pine Woods Subdivision, be approved and that the related Escrow
Agreement be ðccepted.
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R~SOLUTION 81-75 APPROVING THE STR~ET NAME OF COURTYARD W~Y - ~DOPTED
Upon completion of the reading of the Executivo Summary dated
3/1l/8l, Planner Lee Layne stated that the street name is incorrectly
referred to as Courtyard Lane therein. she said that the correct
street name being petitioned for is Courtyard Way and confirmed that
the correct streot name has been properly researched.
Commissioner Wenzel moved, seconded by Commissioner Wimor and
carried 4/0, with Commissioner Kruse not present for the vote, that
Resolution 81-76, approving tho street name of Courtyard Way, be
adopted.
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LEASE FOR nENT^L OF CDßG PROGnA~ OFFICE IN IMMOKALEF. - APpnOVED Fan
EXF.CUTION BY THr: CII^IR~MI
Referring to the Executive Summary dated 3/4/Bl, Community
Development Admini5trator Terry virta said that he feels the small
increase in the rent to $125 per month. is reasonablo and recommends
that the Board ,approve the subject lease for the CDBG program office in
Immokalee. He further noted that the new lease extends the written
notice for termination by either party from 10 to 30 days.
County Manager Norman said that there also needs to be language
added in regarå to the cancellation of the old lease and requested that
this intent be inc1 uded in any forthcoming motion.
Commis~;ioner Brown movcd, seconded by Commissioner Wimer and
carried 4/0 with Comr.lissioner Kruse not present for the vote, that the
rental lease for the Comunity Development Block Grant Program in
1mmokalce be approved as recommended by staff, and that the Chairman be
authorized to execute the document.
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Mr. virta asked that he be given the opportunity to set the record
straight regarding a previous statement by Ms. ~aker of 151. He said
that Community Devleopment Block Grant Coordinator Sondra Yates has
provided him with information that the one grant that Ms. Baker inti-
mated would probably not be f~rthcoming will, indeed, not be. He said
thÐt the reason it will not be granted is that the application is being
transferred to a program wi~h annual appropriations with an annual
a11~cation of funds. He said that bec~use of' this the County will be
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REfiOLUTIONS 81-77 TIIROUCII 81-80, RE ADlITEMENT OF 1"UDLIC NUISANCES -
lIDOPTED
Commisioner Wenzel moved, seconded by Commissioner Brown and
carried unanimously, that the following Resolutions be adopted for the
i recovory of funds expended by the County to abate public nuisances:
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b. Resolution ß 1-78 re "'a rianne K. Wikstrom, Trustee
c. Resolution 81-79 re Clarence H. Surrell & Bessie M. Hovey
d. Resolution R1-RO ra Eve 1 yn L. Brinker
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PISTOL PERMIT 81-4 FOR MRS. KÞ.TflIF. SUP. RUS5P.LL - "PI?ROVED
upon hearing from Administrative Assistant Neil Dorrill that the
applicant meets nll of the criteria of tho portinent Ordinnnce,
Commissioner Wenzel moved, seconded by Commissioner wimer and carried
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unanimously, that pistol Permit 181-4 be approved for Mrs. Kathie Sue
Russell.
BUDGET FT.GURES RE COLLIER COUNTY EMERGP.NCY MEDICAL SERVICF. - APrROVED;
LE^SE ^GREEMF:NT FOR EXISTING NORTH N^PLF:S Þ.MßUL^NCE STATION - ^PPROVED.
County Manager Norman referred to a summary of the proposed budget
for the Collier County Emergency Medical Service (Fund 450) outlined
within the Executive Summary dated 3/23/81 and said that, for the
balance of the current fiscal year, approximately $516,000 will be
required_ Also required will be an appropriation of $~1,555 from
Contingency in order to havo the revenues equal to expenses. He said
that, because of the short time the Board has had to study this budget,
it is not necessary that the Board adopt it today: however, it would
facilitate bookkeeping operations if this budget were added to the
computer as soon as possible. He said that Mr. Douglas Greenfield, tho
EMS Director, has prepared a comparison sheet which shows the dif-
ference in projected costs if the County wero not about to begin its
own EMS operation and if the personnel were going to be paid the same,
annual rate and have the same benefit costs as they have been while
employed with 1\merican Ambulance. Copies of the comparison were dis-
tributed to the Commissioners and a copy accepted by the Deputy Clerk
and marked as Exhibit "A". He said that this has been done so that the
Board can better understand why there is an increase to the County
relating to the subject operation.
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In answer to Commissioner Wenzel, Mr. Greenfield said that the
figures within the r.xecutive Summary, the ~genda pack~ge, and tho
comparison sheet have been based on a survey of American Ambulance's
collections over the last two years. In answer to Commissioner Kruse,
Mr. Norman said that he is confident that the County c~n obtðin the
projected 75\ collection rate through the use of tho type of system
that the County will install, noting that American Ambulance's collec-
tion rate ran between 50% to 60% He further stateò that also to be
considered is the fact that the County will be taking over the EMS
operations during the "off-season" portion of the fiscal year. H~ said
that all the figures indicated in the aforementioned documents are
reflective of the exact figures reported by ~~erican Ambulance for the
months of April through the end of September increascd by 15\ due to
growth.
Mr. Greenfie1cl referred to the comparison sheet entitled BUDGET
STATUS EXPLANATION IN RF.FERENCE TO RECOH~F.NDED RUDGF.T FOR COLLIER
COUNTY EMS and stated that it reflects an increase in salaries and
benefits totaling S67,202.00 over what the previous proviðer was
allowing his people to operate. Also, said Mr. Greenfield, the items
that will be initially incurred in order to set up the EMS operations
total $26,660.00, bûsed on the best estimates available at this time.
Ite said that this is an overall increase of $93,066.00 for the first 6
months of operation¡ however, this will be reduced over the next year.
Thore was a brief discussion regarding p~ojections for uniform
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purchases: the types of uniforms¡ and the fact that there has been no
concrete evidence as to who paid for tho uniforms with rcgards to the
the present provider, as explained by Mr. Greenfield.
Commissioner Wimer asked where the County's cost of billing, etc.
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is reflected in tho subject proposed budget and Mr. Greenfield said
that would fall under the category of Contractual Services, object Code
349. Ho said that a figure of $B,OOO was arrived at with Fiscal
Officer lIarold Hall which inc~udp.s postage, billing forms, ete., that
will be necesÐary. In answer to Commissioner Wimer, Mr. Hall said'that
the projected $8,000 is accurate and should be sufficient, however, .
next year that figure may double. He said that there will be three
mailings per bill, if necessary for collection, and that the $B,OOO
includes one clerk, a 30\ indirect cost factor, data processing and
mailing costs. He said that mailing costs were figured on initial
mailings and SO\ of those requiring a 30-day followup mailing. Com-
missioner wimer asked if Mr. Hall's time and labor have been figured
into this cost? Mr. Hall said that it does not include preparatory
charges and that, hi~toriçally, for those areas whore the Clerk's
office has 00ne into a new program certain indirect charges such as his
time/labor are not charged to that department He concluded by saying
that the subject budget 'figure only represents direct costs that will
be charged once the' program is started. Mr. Hall said that there is
always the chance that, after the billing operation is underway, the
cost could as much as double in a year from now.
Commissioner Wimer stated that he wants to be very sure that the
budget figures for the County's ambulance service are not undcresti-
mated. He said that the idea that the County can run the ambulance
service cheaper than it is being run now has more or less been dis-
pellcd and that he believes that it will cost the County more to
provide the same quality of service that has been previously provided.
He said that regardless of the amount of money that will be require~,
he will vote to provide it as long as ncne of the costs for this
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sorvice is boing "hiddon" in another buc1get. Mr. lIa11 I1ssurcd the
Board that the $0,000 is intonded to reflect the full costs in the same
manner as has been applied to all other enterprise services.
Commissionor Brown asked why the Fiscal Officer, County ^ttorney, etc.
timo is not directly charged against the ambulance service budget, ~n4
the County Attorney explained that if this were done, it would have to
be done in relation to all of the County's services. County Manager
Norman agreed, adding that many other departments, such as Personnel
and purchasing, would have to be considered llS they all have con-
tributed towards this effort. Commissionor Brown expressed his dis-
pleasure in the manner in which the press has reported the entire issuo
relative to the ambulance service and he stated that it is his intent
to be absolutely clear as to the actual costs involved in the upcoming
~akcovcr of EMS operations by the County and that he wants it in black
and white, in the ~cdia, and in the Minutes of this meeting. He said
that he will vote for the money because the people of this County have
to have this service. He said that he believes that it has become a
political issue and he requested that the record reflect that he has
stated that he will vote for whatever money is needed as long as it is
all laid out in black and white.
Commissioner Wenzel moved, seconded by Commissioncr Wimer and
carried unanimously, that the budget figures for the Collier County
Emergency Medical Service b~ approved.
Chairman pistor said that he believes that the entire staff have
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nothing is being, hidden adding that the staff is hopeful that at the
year's end they will bo able prove that thcy did not have to spend as
much ~oney as is shown in the subject budget. Commissioner' Wimer
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agreed that the staff has ðone a good job and thanked them for thðlr
efforts.
County Manager Norman saId that he has been meetin~ with ~ericn
^mbulance representatives, during which it was discovered that'the
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existing North Naples statión on U.S. 1\1 North will bocome available on
^pril ~, 1981. He said that, subsequent to this, Mr. Greenfield has
negotiated, and the ~ounty Attorney has prepared, a Lease for same
building. He said that it is his recommendation that the Board
iluthorize the execution of that Le a s e wh I c h will cost $300 per month;
is on a month-by-month basis¡ and, will have a 90 day guaranteed-
termination notification clause. He said that the reason for the
month-to-month basis is because it is a part of a larger picce of
property and is currently for sale along with a motel.
Commissioner wimer moved for approval of the Lease for execution
by the Cha i rman.
Commissioner Kruse asked if the $300 per month is reflected in the
budget figures just approved? Mr. Norman replied affirmatively.
Commissioner Wenzel scconded the motion which carried unanimously.
During a brief discussion regarding the proximity of th~ ambulance
station to the City of Nðples' limits, Commissioner Wimer suggested
that the Mayor be notified that the ambulance will not be moved any
farther away from the City, after the County takes over, than it was
previously, Commissioner pistor said that he has told the Mayor that
the County intends to continue this service for at least thrce to six
months under the exact same format that it has been operated under,
until such time as the County has ~ feel for the true cost of operating
the ambulance service. County Manager Norman concurred, adding that
also to be discovered are the problem areas, and where the locations
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are that noed ambulance sorvices. Commissionor Wimor noted that the
City has coverage from both ends of tho City and is, therefore, auto-
matically covered in the case of one ambulance being out. H$ said that
if the station was in the middle of the City, and the vehicle out on a
run, the City would have no such coverage. Also discussed was the
claim that the City has the highest number of ambulance calls, the
efforts being undert~ken to verify this and other relative matters.
Mr. Greenfield reported that ho currently has a paramedic on staff who
is assisting him in the preparation of a zoning map for the entire
County which will be utilized to locate some of the more active areas
relative to ambulance service and which will enable him (Mr.
Greenfield) to address this issue at a later date.
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PROPOSED RATES FOR WATER WELL PERMITS APPROVED; ADVERTISING AUTI10RIZED
FOR PUBLIC HEARING RE RELEVANT OnDINANC~
Public Works ~dministrator Clifford Barksdale requested the
Board's approval of thA proposed water well permit rates as outlined
--wtt h-rn-t h-e-r;X1fC\lt1 vu-summ (T rY-'e~ at e-eM 1'11/ ~'1.,.---rJ!'> we-11trS'CJU tIT crr1""Z'i'1;" t'OlIt
advertise for a public hearing regarding the adoption of an Ordinance
in this regard.
Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Wenzel and
carried unanimously, that the Board tentatively approve the proposed
water well permit rates and authorize the advertising for a public
hearing regarding tho adoption of an ordinance re same.
RESOLUTION 81-81 REQUESTING BIG CYPRESS BASIN/SFWMD TO ACQUIRE LANDS RE
LELY CANAL WATER CONTROL SERVICES
Public Works Administrator Clifford Barksdale referred to the
Executive Summary dated 3/24/A1 and explained that the Big Cypress
Basin/South Florida Water ~anagement District has indicated a willing-
ness to obtain the required right-of-way for the Le1y Canal salt water
intrusion control structure and that they have requested a resolution
be adopted by the BCC including certain information outlined more fully
within the Executive Summûry.
Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Kru~e and
carried 4/1, with Commissioner Wenzel opposed, that Resolution 81-81,
requesting Big Cypress Basin/South Florida Water Manangement District
to acquire the aforementioned lands ro construction of the Lely Canal
water control structure be adopted.
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RESOLUTION 01-02 REQUESTING FDOT TO DEED L1\NDS TO COLLIER COUNTY RÊ
COPE LANE pnOJECT
Public Works AdminIstrator Clifford Barksdole referred to the
Executive Summory datod 3/20/31 and read the contents thereof. He
oxpfãineci"'"t.hatthe FDOT is -prë-šëñt'ly -ïëä;-ingthë"t;; par;;ï;-of land,
that theso leases will be cancelled by the FDOT effective May 28, 1ge1,
and, that there is ~ possib1ity that these leases could be renewed when
the County takes possession of the subject property.
Thcre was ð brief discusssion regarding the proposed use of the
subject parcels of land, during which Mr Barksdale explained that
portions of these parcels will be used for the routing of drainage
along side of the road ditchcs by construction of a small control
structure; also, a portion of the land is necessary for construction of
Cope Lane.
Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Rruse and
carried unanimously, that Resolution 81-82, requesting the FDOT to
transfer the deeds regarding two parcels of land to the County, be
adopted.
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nEVISED PUßLIC LIß~^~Y POLICIF.S ^PPROVED
Library Director Richard Jodar recommended approvðl of the revised
Collier County Public Library policies outlined within the Executive
Summary dated 3/9/Rl.
Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Wenzel and
carried unanimously, that tha newly revised Collier County Library
policies be adopted and that the Chairman be authorized to sign the
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ST^FF ^UTHORIZED TO SO,LICIT BIDS RE NORTII NM'LF.S BR^NCI1 LInRAR'i
CONSTRUCTION
Library Director Richarð .Joder requested that tho Board authorize
'the staff to solicit bids for tho construction of tho North Naplos
Branch Library. lie reforr~d to an overhead map and reported that the
developcrs of Pelican ~ay havo deeded the site, for the library to the
County; that the design has been approved by the Pelican Bay represen-
tatives; that the CAPC has approved the ACCeGS to tho library on
Vanderbilt Beach Ro~d¡ and, that all the preliminary work has boen
completed regarding the Gubject project.
During a brief discussion regarding the proposed North Naplos
Branch Library, Commissioner Wenzel stated that he could not see the
necessity for expending such a largo amount for the proposed library
building as he felt that the stor.efront library presently serving the
subject area is adequate. Commissioner Wimer explained that the
intended library building will complete the County's library system;
that the people in North Naples have been waiting for three years for
this building¡ that the subject area is the second largest usage area
in the County's library system¡ and, that he feels it is appropriate
that the County f~llow through with the conntruction of the subject
building. Mr. Joder added that the continued use of the small store-
front for a library is not conducive to upgrading the system and that
certain services to the public are limited by the lack of sufficient
space and, therefore, cannot progress. He said that the proposed
buildihg will be the same type of design as the Immokalee and Golden
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CommissIoner WImer movod, seconded by CommIssioner Drown and
carried unanimously, that the staff be authorized to solicit bids
regarding thc construction of the North Naples Library.
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FULL TIME CUSTODIAN POSITION RE MARCO ISLAND BRANCH LIBRARY AND
SHERIFF'S SUO-STATtON APPROVED
. County Managor Norman statod that in recognizIng th~ needs of the
Marco Island Sheriff's sub-station for custodial services once that
facility is opened, along with those of the Marco Island Branch Library
facility, he is recommending the approval of the creation of a full
time custodial position to serve theso two facilities. He outlined
various problems associated with the practice of employing part-time
custodial help; thc fact that contractual service is currently being
studied¡ and concluded that the Board's approval of the aforementioned
position is needed in the meantime.
Commissioner Wimer said that he would prefer outside contractual
service for these two facilities and, upon hearing from Mr. Norman that
the approval of th~ subject position will not preclude such a method
and that this approval would not have to be a permanent solut~on, movod
for approval of the full time custodial position. Commissioner Wenzel
seconded the motion which carried unanimously.
E~ERCENCY ACKNOWLEDCED fiND BID PROCESS WAIVED; CONTRACT RE CONSTRUCTION
OF ADDITION TO MOTOR POOL FflCILITIES - AWARDED TO ALUMINUM & GLASS
DESICNS IN THE M10UNT OF $4,9<10
Purchasing Director Frank Wilcox rcported that, coincidental to
the County's taking over the ambulance, there is an immediate need for
adequate facilities in the motor pool for servicing EMS vehicles on or
before April 6, 1981. lie said that the Doard has approved a Budget
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1\mandment for $6,000 for the construction of the additional facilities
in motor pool and that, because of the timing involvcd and pursuant to
Section "F", Subsection "~(g)" of tho purchasing Policy, the Board mny
acknowledge a~ emergency and authorizo ð purchnso without uaing tho
sealed bid process. Mr. Wilcox said that, based on this provision,
competitive ficld guotationG were receivcd for the construction of the
addition to the County's motor pool facilities from three local vendors
as outlined more fully within the Executive Summary dated 3/20/01. He
said that the firm of ^luminum & Glass Dcsigns sub~ittcd tho lowcst
quotation and he recommendod that the Board acknowledge the emergency,
wai,~ the bid process, and award the contract for the aforementioned
'construction to the subject firm in the amount of $4,900.00.
tommissioner Wenzel moved to accept the staff recommendation and
Commissionel Wimer seconded the motion.
There was a dJscussion regarding whether or not the subject
expenditure is reflected in the EMS budget tentatively approved earlier
this session, during which Fiscal Officer Harold Hall stated that the
total amount is not reflected in the budget figures approved thIs
morning; what is included is the amount of deprecIation that is
chargðble to that year. Commissioner \."imer asked Mr. l1all if the
County would be expanding the motor pool facilities if it were not
taking over the ambulance service and Mr. Hall replied negatively.
Comm~ssioner Brown said that, in this case, hc believes that the
expenso should be rcflected in the EMf¡ budget. Commissionor Pistor
sa fa€11"ðE-11ë-uñëJéf"sTooër-ffiiittlíë'liëJd i tioniil-;-rãërI1Ue-Š-WõüTa be neces=--
Gary in order to take care of ccrtain County trucks, etc. that aro not
connected with EMS operations, and Mr. Wilcox agreed. He said that the
County is presently servicing six one-ton vehicles that cannot be
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properly servicad at this time hccnußo the lifts in tho bay cannot
accommodate them. Commissioner Wimer said that he believos thnt the
motor pool bays were never intended to sorvice those larger trucks and,
if the policy of the Board regarding the motor pool facilities' use for
servicing County vehicles at the Complex has changed, he would like to
know about it. lie said that if tho motor pool is doing work that
should be done at the County barn, he also wants to know about that
because he understood that all large trucks wore to be serviced at the
County barn. Mr. Wilcox said that this is true, except that he now has
a number of one-ton tru=ks in his pool which bo1ong to the parks and
Recreation Department that are serviced by motor pool and not the barn.
Commissioner Wimer said that he does not care who owns them¡ tho motor
pool wa~ designed for light vehicles only. In answer to Commissioner
Wenzel, Mr. Wilcox said that no vehicles over one-ton are serviced at
the motor pool and that there are some Road and Bridge Dp-partment
vehicles, under one-ton, that are serviced at the County barn.
Commissioner Wimer 'said that, if the subject capital improvement
is for the EMS, he wants it to be reflected in the EMS budget as such
and not reflected as a capital improvement for the motor pool. He said
that he would so move after the motion on the floor is voted upon.
Fiscal Officer Harold Hall clarified that, if the subject
additional facilities were to be usp.d for nothing other than the EMS
program and, if the County was not going to take over the EMS program,
there would be no reason to expend the money. He said that on any
capital expenditure program ,for any internal service, or any enterprise
account, the total capital is not charged to one department¡ however,
it is possible to reflect it on tho respectivo department's balance,
sheet. Commissioner Wimer said that wh~t he w~nts-is for the true
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reflected in the EMS budget since such function is necesGary for the
operation of the EMS program. Mr. Hðll asaured Commissl!>nor WImor that
tho subject capital improvement can be reflected aG a one time "start
up" charge on the financið1 statement and that the proration of the
capital improvement can also be reflected over the years. Commissioner
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over a ten-ye~r period ðnd a portion of thðt charged to the EMS
services, as well as a portion charged to the one-ton trucks. Mr. Hall
replied ðffirmatively. He said that Commissioner Wimer's point is well
taken; if a capital expenditure is undertaken for a specific purpose
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that this money would not have been expended if the County did not have
that intended purpose.
Commissioner Wenzel said that he, too, would
like it reflected as an ðnnua1 charge ag~inst the EMS budget. Mr. Hall
agreed that this cån be done.
COmmissioner Wimer requested that the Board schedule a discussion
regarding the activities ~t the motor pool and the intent regarding
same. Chairma¡\ pistor directed the County Mè'lnager to schedule this
matter for a workshop prior to the commencment of the upcoming budget
he a ring s .
Upon call for the question the motion to w~ive the bid process, to
acknowledge an emergency, a~1 to award the contract for the addition to
the motor pool facilities to Aluminum & Glass,Designs, cArried unani-
mously.
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POSITION OF CRIMINI\L JUSTICE PRO.JECT I\N~LYST UPGRADED TO MI\NAGER
CRIMIN~L .JUSTICE SYST~MS
Data processing Director Fred Marks stated the C.JIS Policy Board
is recommending that the position of criminal .Justice proje,ct I\nalyst
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moved, seconded by Commissioner Wenzel and carried unanimously, that
the aforementioncd position be approved for upgrðding to that of
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SOLE SOURCE PURCHASE OF ADDITIONI\L COMPUTER EQUIPMENT RE LEAA MATCHING
FUND GRI\NT FOR CJIS - I\UTHORIZED FOR ACOUISITION
Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commission~r Brown and
carried unanimously, that, pursuant to LEAA approval, the sole source
purchase of additional computer equipment rc LEAI\ Matching Grant for
CJIS, be authorized in the amount of $45,870.50, from Digital Equipment
Corporation, as recommended by the CJIS Policy Board and as outlined
more fully within a memorandum from the Clerk of Courts, received
3/18/81 by the County Manager's Office.
DISCUSSION REGI\RDING THE DATI\ PROCESSING DEPARTMENT ADDED TO 3/31/81
AGENDA
Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Wenzel and
ca~ried unanimously, that a discussion regarding the Data processing
Department be added to tho 3/31/81 Agenda.
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\-INI'ER/SF.WER FACILITIF.S RE IMPERIAL GOI,F ESTATES PHMF.: 2 - ACCr.PTED
Utilities Managor Irving Berzon recommended that the Board ace apt
the water/sewer facilities for Imperi~l Golf Estates Phase 2, subject
to final revie~ by the County Attornoy regarding legal deficiencies and
inclusive of three amendments to legal descriptions not completed at
this time.
Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Erown anrl
carried unanimously, that the above-referenced water/sewer facilities
and pertinent documents he accepted and/or recorded.
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ROUTIN~ OILLß - APPROVED FOR PA~MENT
Commissioner Wimer moved, eocondod by CommissIoner Brown and
carried unanimously, that the routine bills be approved for payment,
same having sufficient funda available and witnessed by the following
County Checks:
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BUDGET AMENDMENT NO. 81-49 RE TR^INING COSTS (AGRICULTURE DEPARTMENT) -
ADOPTED IN THE ^MOUNT OF $R2B
Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Erown and
carried unanimously, thäl Oudget 1mendmcnt No. 81-49 for training costs
for Soil Analyst in the Agriculture Department be adopted in the amount
of $828.
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BUDGET AMENDMENT NO. ß1-S0 RE ACCUR~TE REFLBC¡rON OF EXPENDITURES IN
THE CmIMUNIT'l DEVELOPMENT I?ROGR1\M BUDGET - ADOPTED IN TilE AMOUNT OF
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Commisaioner \'limor moved, seconded by Commissionor Brown and
carried unanimously, that Budget 1\mondment No. AI-SO which more accu-
rately reflects expenditures in the Co~munity Devlopment Program budget
be adopted in the amount of $3,800.
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BUDGET AMENDMENT NO. 81-51 rROVIDING SECRETAR1^L SERVICES TO
POLIZZI/HEErW (OTIJEn GEM. "DM.) - ADOpn~D IN TIIP. AMOUt¡T OF $5,O"1i
Commissioner Wimcr moved, seconded by Commi9sioner Brown and
carried unanimously, that Budget 1\mendment No.8l-5l providing secre-
tarial services to polizzi/Heery (Othe'r Gen. Adm.) be adopted in the
amount of $5,O~6
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BUDGET AMENDMENT No. 81-52 TnANSFERRI~G GRANT MONF.Y RF. COUNTY MANA-
GER/t:NERGY CONSr.RVATION ßUOGF:T - ADOPTF:D IN TIIF: AMOUNT Of' $4,503
,Commissioner Wimer m~ved, seconded by Commissioner Wenzel and
carried unanimously, that Budget Amandment No. 81-52 transferring grant
money re County Mannger/Enorgy Conservation Suðgot be adopted In the
amount of $4,503.
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BUDGET AMENDMENT AI-53 pnOVIDING FOR !NCnEARE IN COST OF EQUIPMENT
(CIRCUIT COURT CLERK) - ADOPTED IN TltE AMOUNT" OF $1,113
Commissioner Wimer Movod, seconded by Commissioner Brown ðnd
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carried unðnimously, that Budgot Amendment No. Al-53 providing for an
increase in cost of equipment re Circuit Court Clerk be ðdopted in the
ðmount of $1,113.
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BUDGET AMENDMENT 01-54 PROVIDING FOR F,MERCP.NCY MEDICAL PAYMP.NTS FOR
ABUSED/SHELTERED CHILDREN (SOCIAL SERVICES) - ^DOPTED IN THE AMOUNT OF
$4,000.
Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded hy Commissioner Brown and
carried unanimously, that Budget Amendment No. BI-5~ providing for
omergcncy medicnl payments for abuscd/she1tered children (Socia.!
Services) be adopted in the ~mount of $4,000.
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SE^LED DID pnOCESG WI\IVED ^ND EXPENOITURE OF $0,/.57.00 FOR MATULI\Y
SUPPLY TR^ILER RE WITN~~SF.S/ JUnOnS,- ^ppnOV~n '
Commissioner Wimer moved, Qeconded by Comminaioner ßrown ðnð
carried unanimously, that the soolc~ bid process be waived ðnd that tho
expenditurc of $8,257.00 for a trailer re the Witness/Jurors program in
the Judicial area be approved for purchaso from Matulay Supply, as
recommended by Clerk William J. Reagan.
STAFF INSTRUCTED TO IIONOR THE DOMICrLES OF PRESENT COMMIGSIONEn5 RF.
PREPAR^TION OF REDISTRICTING FOR VOTING DISTRICTS
Commissioner Wimor stated that, during a recent visit to the
Planning Department where the districts maps are being prepared
'regarding the County's efforts towards redistricting, he became aware
that the Planning staff is not honoring the domiciles of present
'Commissioners in their efforts to balanco the population count for each
of the five districts, noting that they are following the Census
enumeration. lie said that he feels this consideration could easily be
incorporated in delineating the various boundaries for each district.
He said that it is his opinion that the Commissioner's domiciles should
be considered, and that he would like to know how the other
Commissioners feel.
Commissioner Pistor said that he understands that it would not
make any difference and that, if a Commissioner is shifted into a
different district by this process, he/she would not be raquired to
move since it would only have an effect on the Commissioners when their
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he tran5mitteà a memorandum regarding this to the Supervisor of
ElectIons anò to Planner Tom Mcnaniel just last week. Commissioner
Wimer said that he realizes this is not a legal question but is simply
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a matter of whether or not the Commissioners decide they want to have
it done this way. Commissioner piotor said that hn, too, looked at the
maps and subsequently asked the Planning staff if thero was any way to
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matically, thcre is not. Commissioners Wimcr and Kruse joined in
disagreement. Commissioner Wimer claimed that, mathematically, the
district lines can fall any number of ways and the totnl population in
rlðch district will come out equal. He said it is a matter of
philosophy, i.e. shall we use puro numbers or shall we honor the
present Commissioner's domicile in conjunction with numbers? He said
that it would take extra effort¡ however, it can be done. Commissioner
pistor asked if it is true that when the districts are redrawn the
population of each district must be ðpproxim~tely the same? Mr.
Pickworth replied that thcy must be as close to identi~a1 as possible;
however, this can be accomplished by drawing the lines in any number of
ways although the staff cannot "gerimander" the lines. Commissioner
Wimer concurred and said that, philosophically, he does ~ot 1iko having
three Commissioners in one district. Commissioner Kruse agreed and
said that if the lines fall as they are now drafted, Commissioners
Bro~m, Wimer and herself would all be living in the same district.
Commissioner Wimer moved that the Boarò instruct the staff to
honor the domiciles of the present Commissioners in their efforts in
redistricting. Commissioner Kruse seconðed the motion.
Commissioner Wimor clarified ~hat ho is not down-playing tho
efforts of the staff since they were given an assignmentss to use "pure
numbers" and they carried through with that assignment. He said that
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Chairman riator sAid that the staff con Qe asked to look into
this. Commissionor Wimer was aòamant in that tho intent of the motion
is to specifically direct thnt tho Commissioners' domiciles be honored;
not that they look into doing it.
Upon call for the quostions, the motion carried 3/2 with Commis-
sioners Wenzol anò pistor opposed. Commissioner Wonzel asked the
record to reflect thnt he ðid not look at the subject maps and, there-
fore, cannot vote to change them. Commissioner pistor said that he did
look at them and that he could see no reason for the change.
CERTIFICATES OF CORnECTIONS TO TilE TAX ROLL - AUTHORIZED FOR EXECUTION
BY THE CH^IRMl\N
Commissioner Kruse moved, seconded by Commissioner Wenzel and
carried unanimously, that the following Certificates of Correction to
the Tax Roll, as prescntp.d by the Property l\pppraiser's Office, be
authorized for exe¿ution by the Chairman:
1977 TlIX ROLL
NUMBERS
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432
2/26/A 1
1978 TAX ROLL
583 & 5R4
1979 'I'l\X ROLL
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3/10/Al
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19AO TANGIBLE PERSONAL PROPERTY
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3/17/81
DR. .JACK GREENFIELD APPOINTED TO EMERGENCY ~EDrCAL 5F.RVICES ADVISORY
COUNCIL FILLING VACANCY DUE TO RESIGNATION OF DR. GUNNARD ANTELL
Commissioner Kruse moved, seconded by Commissioner Wimer and
carried unanimously, th~t Dr. Jack Greenfield be appointed to the
Medical Services Advisory Council tilling the vacancy due to the
resignation of Dr. Gunnûrd Antell.
LEAVE OF ABSENCF. FOR Fan MVI CMPLOYEE BILLY TAYLOR - APPROVED
Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Kruse and
carried unanimously, that the recommended lp.ave of nbsence for MVI
employee Billy Tùy10r from' 3/25/81 to 5/25/81 be approved.
LEAVE OF ABSENCE FOR TRANSPORTATION DEPART~'ENT EMPLOYEE PATRICIA M.
CARROLL - APpnOVED
Commissioner Wimer moved, seconded by Commissioner Kruse and
carried unanimously, thùt the recommended leùve of-absence for
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DEED t2ñ? RE LAKE TR~FFORD MEMORI^L GAnDENS CEMETERY - RECOROED AND
FILEO FOR THE RECORD
Pursuant to action of the Board .Jnnuary l~, 1978 whcrein the
Chairman was authorized to sign various deeds to Lake Tr~fford Memorial
Gardens Cemetcry lots DS the nced ^rises, the following Deed No. 2ñ2
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PRESENTATION OY DR. TOM Cr.7\RI(, Ç¡¡SI, nE ST^TUS OF nr.1\r.TII DEP^RTHENT.
CLINIC Sr.nVICES IN IMMOKALF:8 & EVF.RGLAOES CITY - NO ^CTrON T^'ŒN:
COUNTY M¡\NAGER TO SCHF.DULF: WORKSHOP RE F8DERALLY FUNOED PROGI11\MS THAT
M1\Y R~QUInE LOC^L SUPPORT
Dr. Tom Clark, of Collier Health Services, Inc., gave 1'1 presenta-
tion regarding the need for the BCC to consider the repercussions of
the termination of cert~in Health Department services that are
presently offered by CHSI in Immokalee due to Federal cutbacks in
funding.
The history of CIISI was outlined by Dr. Clark, as were the present
programs that are being carried out in the three areas of service,
including Everglades City, Immokalee, and 12 miles southeast of Naples
near migrant 1Ðbor camps.· Also covered by Dr. Clark is the close
relationship that CHSI and the Health Department presently enjoy and he
explained that, while Dr. Cox, the Health Department Director, has
agreed to help in any way he can, his resources are limited by his
budget. Dr. Clark' outlined the various kinds of services that will no
longer be able to be provided by CHIS, and those arefts that will have
to be "covered", henceforth, by the Health Department, inclusive of
family planning services, immunizations, treatment of venereal disease,
TB testing, and, PKU's for young infants.
The projected date of termination of services in both Evorgl~des
City and Immokalee of September I, 1981 was outlined by Dr. Clark who
added that these services wIll become the responsibility of the County
on that date. lIe said that he is not requesting anything at this time;
however, because it is just before County Budget nearing time, the
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County should consider providing nca1th Department sorvices in
Immokaloo and Evergl~dcs City around the aforementioned scrvico tormi-
nation date. ''''hen l\5ked by Commissioner Vlenzel how much money he was
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talking about, Dr. Clark said that' h'e docs not havo a broðkdown of what
the cost of lIetllth Deportment services /'Ire ho only knows that CIISI is
receiving tho same amount of funding this year ðS lðst.
Thero was a brief discussion regarding the problems associated
7tr:õrëmrrn-UUagë-r~ìIr8¡rri(1-'sVe-c:rt-ti ~!f1-¡Y-t iro-l'I'"Umb-e'r-o C-Pro9ral11 rthã
may become the County's responsibility for funding if they are to
continue. Commissioner Kruse askod that the staff be directed to
prepare a list of all such programs, and that a workshop be scheduled
to discuss them fully, so that the Commissioners can make some kind of
determination as to Hhich programs will and which will not be funded at
a local level. Also discussed was the possiblity of deve10pin~ medical
health t~xing districts in order to cover this kind of funding.
Communicable diseases and the need to treat them were also
discuss~d, during which th~ problems associated with the treatment of
disease among migrant workers, illegal aliens, and th~ poor were also
explained by Dr. Clark.
Dr. Lawrence W. Coryell, CHSI's Medical Health Service Director in
Immoka1ee, outlined the many kinds of services offered at the clinic in
Immokalee; the need to continue these services¡ and the important role
in disease control that CIISI plays in Collier County. He also
explained the eMergency room facilities an~ the numbers and kinds of
cases se~n each day there. He urged the Board to consider giving t~e
support needed to continue to offor these servicos to Immoka1ee in the
future. During Dr. Coryell's presentation, the problems associated
with providing services for people'othor thnn taxpayers with funds
supplied by taxpayers wore discussed and Commissioner Wimer assured Or.
Coryell that the Board understood the Doctor's position th~t economics
arc not considered hy the doctors re~arding the need for treatment of
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tho ill; however, tho P..oard must consider thooe lIßpects when lIpproving
funds for anything ns their's ~9 ð difforent pnr~metor of
responsibility. Dr. Coryell acknowledged this and added that the Board
should also consider thfl fact that the proper treatment, control, nnd
prevention of communicable discase at these loc~tions will affoct the
entiro spectrum of people in Collier County. He sain that CHSI would
like to continue, to concentrate on the treatment of sick poopla nnd
thùt they would like the County to take over those Hcalth Department
sorvices. He said thnt he considers these to be the rightful
obligation of the County. Dr. C1Ðrk s~id thùt the people of North
Naples are prcsently being offercd these services by Lee County, at a
Health Department Clinic located in Ronit~ Springs.
Fiscal Officer Harold Hall said that a list of agencies that may
require local funding could be prep~red ùnd he offered to provide one.
County Manager Notman said that this ontire scope will have to be
reviewed during the prepðration of the budgets this year.
*******Commlssioner Wimer feft the mceting - Time: ~:02 P.M.*******
Health Department Director Dr. Willinm Cox explùined that he is
willing to help CAS! in any way he can, such ~s providing a nurse,
however, he is limited by his þudget. He said that the people in
Immokalee havc been getting minimù1 scrvicc from the l1ea1th Dcpartment
for approximntcly 9 months c'lnd that CIIGI has done tin outstnnc1ing job by
taking over a Inrge responsibility and providing thesc services.
Dr. Cox also pointed out that the State mnndatcs that certain
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health scrvices be providcd to certain people nnd that, ultimately,
this responsibility falls onto the County, especially if CHSI's funding
is cut and they cnn no longcr provida many of these sarviccs. lie urgnd
the Board to consider ðl1 tho inf:ormatlon provided todDY ~nd keap the
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needs of thoèe people who will be without certain heðlth service3 ip
mind at budget preparation timo.
Chairman ristor thnnked Drs. Coryell, Clark and Cox, and said that
all the information will be considered. It wns tho consensus of the
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Board that no action be taken nt this time and that the staff should
provide the Board with information of any program facing the same
circunstances and rc ~uiring additional local support in the future for
their consideration before any f.inal decisions are made.
MISCBLLAN~OUS conR~SPOND~NCE - FIL~D AND/OR n~FERnED
Thoro being no objection, the Chair directed that the following
corre~pondence be filed and/or referred to the respective departments
as ind icated:
1. Letter dated 3/6/81 from Army Corps of. Engineers,. Chief .John F.
Adams, responding to BCC letters of obligation of October and
Novcmbcr 1980 ro proposeed project by William Capri Marine, Inc,
(Corps Appl1ication 678L-1590) - noting that the subject project
has had Corps permit~ issued. xc C. Barksdale; County Manager¡
F 11 ed .
2. Tho following letters regarding the Building Inspection
Department, offering various complaints and suggestions for
improvements in the functions ther~of: xc County Manager¡ Building
Director; Filed.
a. Ver1yn Fischer, President, Contractors Asoc. of Collier
County, 3/12/81
b. Donald R. Barber, ßoran, Craig, and Schrock Construction Co.
Inc., 3/13/81
c. F. P. Dayton, Jr., Dayton Enterprises, Inc., 3/16/81
d. .S. W. Pritchard, .Jr., President, Star Builders, Inc., 3/18/81
e. Travis F. Doering, Vice president, Garage Doors of Naples,
Inc., 3/17/80
f. Polk L. Threlkeld, President, Nassau Pools Construction,
Inc., 3/17/81
g. Robert C. Utter, President, Collier Electric 'Company, 3/16/8
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h. Shirley l1olland, TropiclIl Realty, Inc., 3/Hi/ß1
i. Ceorge DeMarco, President, Do Marco Tilo, Inc., receivod
3/l9/ß1
j. Richard .Jurek, Isles of Capri Construction, received 3/19/81
k. Ron DeFlnvis, President, Mu1b~rry Homes, Inc., 3/l6/~1
I. Lee Chase, President, Ch~son Inc., 3/17/81
3.
Letter dated 3/13/~1 from DNR Engineering Techniciðn l\.K. Fenne,
(Bureau of Reaches an~ Shores) requesting that a transmitted form
re Engineers ccrtificdtion be filled out and returned to the DNR
relative to CCCL Permit J CO-P4-ßO, r.ollier County ßCC. xc County
Manager; C. BiHksdalc; T. Virta; Filed.
4. The following monthly dcpnrtrnental reports: lI) purchasing
(February 1981); b) Library Consolidated (February 1981). Filed.
5. Letter dated 3/17/81 from FOOT District Engineer William K. Fowler
reg~ròing the incorporation of material from hydroloqic stunies by
Larsen line! lIssocitðtes conducted for Deltonð Corp. in the vicinity
of Mcl1v~ne Bay with the revised EIS re State Project 03030-1503
(SR 951); also, noting that the EIS is expected to be signed by
FHWA by June, with a public hearing to follow two months later. ,
6. Letter c\é¡ted ,3/17/81 from Ims Licensure Coorclinator, Er~S, Ronð1d
B. Hu!>key, respo:lding to BCC's request for clarificûtion on the
!.r.r.l1ance and denial of a certificate of public convenience and
necessity for ambulance operation nnd suggesting that the BCC
refer the matter to legal counsel for an opinion. xc County
,Attorney; County Manager; Public Safety l\dministrator; Filed.
7. PSC Notice re Docket No, R10035-TP, Order No. 9£18£1, issued 3/18/81
re Petition of Southern Bell Telephone ~nd Telegraph Company for
authority to increase its rates and charges. filed.
8. Copy of letter dûted 3/24/81, from Army Corps of Engineers,
transmitting l\rmy Permit ~8nT-1l83 re work in cnna1 connecting to
Naples Bny (Rayvi~w Park) and a Notice of l\uthorization re s~me.
Original sent to Rollie Rice; Copy filed.
9. Minutes of Naples City Council Meeting of Morch ~, 1981. Filed.
10. Copy of memorandum dated 3/20/Al from George F. l\rchiba1d,
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Superintendent, noti fying him of sllspension from vlork wi thout pay
for violation of County Rules of Conduct, effective 3/20/~1 and
until further notice. Filed.
11. Memorandum dated 3/20/81 from John Wnlker, Acting CETA Diroctor,
transmitting the CETA Dcaprtmcnt response to the monitoring report
~f the state's on-site visits, and noting that action is either
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undcrway or hðS been completed for ðll items in said roport.
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l2. Memorandum d~ted 3/17/RI from .John Walker, Acting CETA Director,
transmitting vÐrious CETA Contract proposals for the next fiscal
year. Filed.
urther büainess for tho good of the County, tho
meeting was adjourned by ordor of the Chair - Time: 4:15 P.M.
BO^RD OF COUNTY CO~MISSIONERS/EX
OFFI~rO GOVERNING BOARD OF SPECIAL
DISTRICTS UNDER ITS CON~OL
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