BCC Minutes 08/12/2004 E (pm) (Hurricane Charley)
August 12, 2004 (P.M.)
TRANSCRIPT OF THE MEETING OF THE BOARD OF
COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
Naples, Florida, August 12, 2004
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the Board of County
Commissioners in and for the County of Collier, and also acting as
the Board of Zoning Appeals and as the governing board( s) of such
special districts as have been created according to law and having
conducted business herein, met on this date at 6:00 p.m. in SPECIAL
EMERGENCY SESSION in Building "F" of the Government
Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following members present:
ACTING CHAIRMAN: Tom Henning
Jim Coletta (Telephonic)
Tom Coyle (Telephonic)
Donna Fiala (Telephonic)
Frank Halas
ALSO PRESENT:
Jim Mudd, County Administrator
David C. Weigel, County Attorney
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COLLIER COUNTY
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS
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EMERGENCY
AGENDA
August 12, 2004
6:00 p.m. (Reconvened)
Donna Fiala, Chairman, District 1
Fred W. Coyle, Vice-Chair, District 4
Frank Halas, Commissioner, District 2
Tom Henning, Commissioner, District 3
Jim Coletta, Commissioner, District 5
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THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS' OFFICE.
1. Pledge of Allegiance
2. Motion to reconvene
3. Update on Hurricane Charley and its affect on Collier County - Dan
Summers, Collier County Emergency Management Director
4. Comments
5. Meeting Recess
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MR. MUDD: Commissioner Henning, you have a hot mike.
Ladies and gentlemen, if you'd please take your seats.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Everybody take their seats,
please. Reconvening of the emergency meeting of the Board of
Commissioners of Collier County, Florida. I understand we have the
Commissioners. Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, I'm here.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Coletta?
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: I'm here.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Coyle?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: I'm here.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. We have a super
majority here with us this evening. Mr. Weigel?
Item #2
MOTION TO RECONVENE-APPROVED
MR. WEIGEL: Thank you. To start the proceeding, it would be
appropriate for a motion and vote to take the item off the table, which
is the -- the tabling was the stopping or -- of the meeting earlier
today. So a motion to move --
COMMISSIONER HALAS: I make the motion --
MR. WEIGEL: -- the item from the table.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: -- that we table this item.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay, there's a motion by
Commissioner Halas to reconvene the meeting. Is there a second?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Second that motion.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Motion by Commissioner
second by Commissioner Fiala. All in favor of the motion, signify by
saYIng aye.
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COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: Aye.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Aye. Any opposed? (No
response. )
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Motion carries
unanimously. Next item.
Item #3
UPDATE ON HURRICANE CHARLEY GIVEN BY DAN
SUMMERS, COLLIER COUNTY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
DIRECTOR-PRESENTED
MR. MUDD: Commissioner, we'd like to give you an update,
because this is basically an update meeting as far as what Hurricane
Charley has been doing and what the projections are from the
National Weather Service. And Mr. Summers will present.
MR. SUMMERS: Commissioners, good afternoon. Dan
Summers, director of the Bureau of Emergency Services and your
emergency management director of record.
I'd like -- before I go into the current weather forecast, I'd like
to sort of give you what we call a situation report, and I'd like to
share with you the accomplishments of today, if I could. And again, I
really want to extend my thanks to the entire Emergency Services
team, both public and private, and an awful lot of volunteers who
have helped us. It's been successful and they've worked very hard
today, and I think they know they have many hours of service in this
project left to go.
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We have provided extensive customer service, via our Collier
information center. About 10 lines have been active continuously
since this event with a one-on-one type ability for us to give
information, dispel rumors and help coach people through their
preparedness activities.
We've provided dozens of news releases. We have contacted by
telephone over 500 special needs persons and spoke with them to
help coach them through their individual and family preparedness
and their response action. Our Emergency Medical Services has been
available for convalescent transportation.
However, I will tell you that our compliance with that
convalescent transportation and the relocation of special needs has
been extremely low. We're getting very, very poor compliance with
special needs individuals. And I'll elaborate more on that in just a
minute.
We've prepared emergency responders for staging areas and
tapped additional resources such as forestry personnel to be within
our county to be ready to respond to assist bulldozers, chain saws and
other emergency personnel. That staging will formally begin later
tonight, but it's ready to go.
We have -- we still have with the state request for National
Guard high clearance mobility vehicles. That resource request has
not yet been granted but it's still in the system. Hopefully we'll have
some military type what we refer to as deuce and a half high
clearance vehicles that can handle a fair amount of water.
We've been working -- our transportation folks have done a
superior job in terms of securing barricades and debris, or what could
be potential debris along our roadway, so they've worked hard to
secure our roadway segments today.
We've been providing real time public information updates via
Collier TV, and probably well over 30 different interviews have been
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done on radio and television by our communications and customer
service department. Our Collier Emergency Management EM
website has had over 5,000 hits today.
We have coordinated and have now pre-staged our debris
removal contractor, and his assets are currently in Fort Myers, which
is appropriate for that type of heavy equipment. We already have the
debris removal contractor liaison here on-site.
We've been producing specified GIS maps for our emergency
responders.
We've been fielding questions regarding evacuation and pets and
making kennel space available through the Domestic Animal
Services. They have ample capacity and have only taken 15 pets
today associated with evacuation.
The tolls have been lifted. We have made news releases, now
that we know that since our northern counties, Lee, Charlotte and
now Hillsboro County, Tampa, has now ordered their evacuation.
We have again put public information statements out to
encourage folks to use Interstate 75 east, just as we discussed this
morning. Traffic, however, and Interstate 75 north and east is
flowing. There are no significant impediments to traffic at this time.
We've activated the NOAA weather alert - NOAA weather radio
alert system again for the hurricane warning and to give other
information for Collier County residents to listen to radio and
television.
We have activated amateur radio personnel. We have an
amateur radio communications net up and running.
We have also supported the municipalities in making sure that
their debris removal arrangements were either piggybacked as part of
Collier County's debris removal, or making sure the municipalities
have their contractor in place.
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We have continued to answer routine fire, EMS, and law
enforcement calls. Fortunately it's been a relatively light day in terms
of calls for service.
We have communicated and coordinated with all three hospitals.
We have ample hospital bed space at this hour, so we're looking
pretty good there.
And we've also been in touch with our airport folks and all is
well. Marco Island, East Naples and North Naples fire departments at
my request have taken emergency apparatus through low-lying
neighborhoods. They've activated the siren on the emergency
vehicle, picked up the public address system and given emergency
message, again reminding folks of the mandatory evacuation for the
coastal residents in low-lying areas. That has been extremely
successful in Goodland, according to the fire department reports.
Let me give you the census at the shelters that we have right
now. At Barron Collier, which is our special needs, primarily for
special needs, we only have 26 people registered.
At Gulf Coast High School, we have 18 people registered. At
Oak Ridge Middle School, we have six people registered. At
Corkscrew, none. Immokalee, none.
And Calusa Park, for our emergency workers and other county-
essential employees, as well as the general public, we have no one
there at this time. So we're very concerned about compliance and
action.
We only have one other resource possibly that we can use, and
that would be an automated telephone notification system, if we elect
to do that later. And I'd like to talk about that at the end of the
meeting. That's the situation brief as I have it before I go into
weather discussion. Do you have any questions at this point?
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Let me just ask if
Commissioner Coyle is with us. Commissioner Coyle?
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COMMISSIONER FIALA: I thought I heard him beep in.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: He's trying to get in?
Okay. Commissioner Halas?
COMMISSIONER HALAS: I have some concerns in regards to
special needs people. I hope they realize the danger of this storm at it
approaches us. How was the evacuation going with regular residents
in coastal high hazard areas?
MR. SUMMERS: Marco Island Fire Department reported to us
that they are now seeing a steady stream of traffic out 951. Isle of
Capri Fire Department in their particular area have been relatively
successful. They're starting to see mobilization this afternoon.
Everglades City, Chief Wilson has reported that of course most
all the hotels there are closed, boats are being secured and things are
extremely quiet there. So in those critical locations, we are seeing
action. We had just hoped we would see more action during daylight
hours.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: Are you going to give any type of
a presentation in regards to just how serious this is for people that are
along the coastline, that we get them out of there ASAP?
MR. SUMMERS: We wanted to possibly even give you some
pictures of previous storm surge events, and you have seen those, and
we may --we do not have those to present for you at this time because
of the forecast coming in somewhat late. But we will use Collier TV
to provide some pictures, some illustrations of what storm surge
examples or potential could be, if you find that acceptable.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Fiala, do
you have any questions at this time?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: No, not at this time, thank you.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Coletta?
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Yes, I do, as a matter of fact.
I'm very concerned. I noticed the evacuation list didn't list Plantation
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Island or Copeland. I was -- are those two areas too that have to be
evacuated?
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, sir, they are. And there is action there.
Sir, I do have a list that is a very long list, and I may have
overlooked that, but work and evacuation is in process there.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Yes, because Plantation Island,
I had contact with a person there, and it surprised me, he told me he
had no intentions of leaving, and he thought he was quite safe. And
this man lives in a trailer in a very hazardous area.
I hope that we have availed the fire department with their loud
speakers and sirens to go in there and give the message to them that
how dangerous that area will become.
MR. SUMMERS: Sir, we're doing every -- let me talk with you
a little bit about warning and communication.
There is no one single warning device that's 100 percent
effective, even if we elect to use the telephone notification system.
So we've used everything in our power.
We've used the media, we've used NOAA weather radio, we
have used the emergency vehicle public address system, word of
mouth, Collier Information Center.
We're given that effort in terms of communication and warning
110 percent. And we could only hope that folks have had some
inkling of taking personal responsibility for their potential risks.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, all we can do is probably ask
them and warn them, but we can't force them.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: That's correct.
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, ma'am, that is correct.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Any further questions?
(No response.)
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Please continue, Mr.
Summers.
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MR. SUMMERS: Okay, let's go back to the visualizer here for
a couple of illustrations, if we could. This particular scenario where
you see the ring over Cuba is actually the forecast track for 10:00
p.m. tonight. Brings this storm with winds at 110 miles per hour.
Just as we had somewhat speculated earlier today, we're seeing
intensification, and we're seeing intensification even as it crosses the
island of Cuba. So -- and we're also seeing a forward motion change
here of about up to 16 miles per hour. And as we speculated again
this morning, we're seeing some wobble in that storm's path.
Let me take you to the next model. Again, just a couple of hours
later. Midnight. The reason I put that there is because you receive --
34 mile an hour winds will begin to cross the Keys at midnight. And
I believe we're maintaining 16 miles per hour there.
We cross Cuba into the Straits of Florida and we are seeing that
outer band expand. Now we're also looking at winds in the vicinity of
115 miles per hour.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: You're talking that's close to the
center of the storm; is that correct?
MR. SUMMERS: That is correct. Winds at 115. Again, the
storm continues its radius of gale force winds will expand. And now
we're looking at 5 :00 a.m. And if you'll notice there, either that one
or the next one, we may even -- one more. Actually it approaches us
120 miles per hour is in the forecast.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: And what are we talking on the
outer band?
MR. SUMMERS: Let me -- I got ahead of myself,
Commissioner. Let me catch up here. 8:00 a.m., Friday morning, 115
miles an hour. But notice the forward motion increase of 20 to 20
(sic) miles an hour.
So I'm very, very thankful we did what we did today with the
daylight hours, because we're seeing the trend of an escalation in
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forward speed. It's collapsing our window for preparedness and
shelter activities. If you'll notice, this map has been expanded a little
bit.
But the radius of gale force winds, the storm gains strength, and
is already, at 8:00 a.m. storm force winds are already across Collier
County.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: When you say storm force winds,
can you gIve us --
MR. SUMMERS: Storm force winds at 34 miles per hour.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: Okay. And the yellow band will
indicate 60 mile an hour winds?
MR. SUMMERS: That is correct.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: Okay.
MR. SUMMERS: And again, back to the same storm surge
scenario. We're not changing our storm surge values at this point,
knowing that we could again see some oscillation in that forward
motion.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: We're looking - are we still
looking at somewhere between eight and 10 feet of surge?
MR. SUMMERS: Yes.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: Okay.
MR. SUMMERS: Our last one, to kind of give you an idea
about the time in which the storm will pass. Takes us to 11 :00 a.m.
on Friday, 120 miles an hour estimated wind speed at the peak, 20
miles per hour in forward motion. And it will be 4:00 p.m. tomorrow
afternoon before the storm passes. Last graphic.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: Do you anticipate any change in
the course at this time?
MR. SUMMERS: It is so close. I think we're going to get some
wobble, for lack of a scientific term, some wobble in that storm, both
east and west.
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But the fact that the storm continues to grow in intensity and
gain in terms of its wind -- the distance of the band of the winds, I
think we have to maintain our current course.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Mr. Summers, this is
Commissioner Coyle. Can I ask you a question?
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, sir.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Since I can't see the visualizer, can
you tell me what is the maximum forecast winds for the Naples area?
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, sir. That is 120 miles per hour. And let
me check that time for you.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: And that --
MR. SUMMERS: That would be -- sir, I'm sorry, go ahead.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay, that is assuming the passage
of the eye of the storm fairly close to coastal Collier County; is that
what your track currently shows?
MR. SUMMERS: Sir, it does. The eye might be anywhere
from 20 to 40 miles off of our coast, but our forecast error, based on
the models, we still have a 47 -mile forecast error. So if you sort of
split that, we're not in a situation where we can expect much of a
break.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yes, I understand, okay. Now,
what are the tides like at that time?
MR. SUMMERS: We have not remodeled the tides at this
point, but we -- even if we have a one to two-foot differential in tide,
with the six to possibly nine feet that we're going to receive, we're
still not in a good situation.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Uh-huh. Okay.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: It's supposed to be a high
tide, Commissioner Coyle, to answer your question.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: It is supposed to be high tide, huh?
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yes.
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COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay, thank you.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: Dan, could you put that back up
on the visualizer? And where is the circle of winds where you're
saying that we could be hit here in Collier County with what,
120? We got the -- as you went through the time frame, at what point
are we at the greatest risk here of high winds? You had about three
or four different --
MR. SUMMERS: Right. Sir, and again, knowing that we draw
a circle on the map, but we know that we're going to receive bands,
feeder bands, so we're going to have lots of fluctuation there. We
could easily start off with some 34 mile an hour winds. We might get
a gust that would come through at 50.
And then if the storm gets any -- as much as 20 miles closer, we
know those hurricane strength winds, which are closest to the eye, at
that point we could see 70 -- 74 to 120 mile an hour as a gust.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: Okay. So just to get a clarification
here, the outer band is --represents about 35 mile an hour winds, 34
mile an hour winds?
MR. SUMMERS: That's correct.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: The yellow band represents 60
mile an hour winds?
MR. SUMMERS: Correct.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: And then the red band, what
velocity is that prior to being right at the eye of the storm?
MR. SUMMERS: That will start off at 74 miles per hour and --
COMMISSIONER HALAS: The band?
MR. SUMMERS: That's correct. The band will start at 74.
Again, depending on the track and how it behaves, the maximum
sustained winds recorded by aircraft reconnaissance and expected by
the model is 120 miles per hour.
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COMMISSIONER HALAS: Okay. I just wanted to clarify that
for the people out there might be looking at this, and as we see the
trajectory of the storm as it heads north.
MR. SUMMERS: That's correct. We still again still have a
scenario here where we may get a brush from this event in terms of
its peak winds, but we still remain very guarded about the water,
storm surge.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: What type of beach erosion do
you think we're going to incur here?
MR. SUMMERS: Sir, I think we're going to get some. I don't
have a good feel yet for how much. We do not have a tool to model
that or to estimate that.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Coyle, do
you have any questions? Commissioner Coyle? (No response.)
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Looks like we lost him. But I do.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Fiala?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes, are we recommending that
most businesses be closed tomorrow?
MR. SUMMERS: We typically would not make a business
recommendation. That - businesses will typically make their own
decision, based on how the community is fairing and whether there is
even an opportunity for commerce tomorrow.
We typically address those services, governmental, school,
governmental businesses. We have not made any curfew or
prohibitions for business activity tomorrow.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I see.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Any further questions?
(No response.)
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Please continue.
MR. SUMMERS: That's all I have from a weather standpoint. I
do not have any additional requests from you -- for you at this point,
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unless you want us to take a closer look at possibly using a telephone
automated notification system.
It is a subscriber based commercial service. The sheriffs
department has access to that. It is a system where we go on a
computer and draw a map and we can pre-record up to a 30-second
message, and this machine through a commercial service will deliver
-- dial and deliver an automated notification to every property within
the boundary that we draw.
Now, there are expenses associated with that. They are
significant. They are typically FEMA reimbursed. But at this point,
I don't know -- those -- that telephone notification service is better
used for a fast-breaking emergency event like a hazardous materials
event or a homeland security event where the notification needs to be
quick.
I think we have done an excellent job, with all the resources we
have, in notification. But I want to let you be aware that we do have
one more tool that we could possibly use with that telephone
notification service. Some people will welcome the call, some folks
will not be pleased to receive the automated call.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Halas?
COMMISSIONER HALAS: Presently on the Weather Channel
you are running a trailer on that from the Emergency Management
Center, and I would hope that everybody in Collier County is
watching the Weather Channel. And I think that should be sufficient
enough, I would hope at this time, with all the newscasts and all the
people that are involved in creating news or reporting the news. And
I think that hopefully that will be sufficient enough.
MR. SUMMERS: And recall, too, please, sir, that we're in our
second day of public interaction in terms of preparing for this storm.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Coletta?
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COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Yes, thank you. I do have
concerns. You mentioned the fact that we've had a very small rate of
people showing up at the shelters, that it's below par for what we
would expect. Possibly this might be something we should do just to
emphasize the importance on it, especially if we get reimbursed from
FEMA.
I don't think we can over-emphasize the importance of people to
leave their homes and go to shelters or leave the area if they're in the
high hazard area that's going to be suffering major winds from the
storm.
I for one would like to see that phone call system put into place
so we can give the residents one more chance.
MR. SUMMERS: Sir, we will-- we have only looked at this
from a perspective of how doable is it, how quickly can we do it. It is
services that the sheriffs department does have. They have informed
me of the cost, they have informed me of the availability.
With your permission, I'd like to go back and do some additional
research. And if we elect to do it or if you're in support of doing it,
I'd like for you to give me the authority to make that decision to
move forward with it. I don't want to do it too late this evening. If I
do it, I want to do it shortly after the national newscast.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: I would like to leave that final
decision to you to give you the authority to do so. I don't know if my
fellow commissioners agree or not.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Mr. Summers?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I agree.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: When is the national --
you're saying the national news at 6:30?
MR. SUMMERS: We could do it probably -- let's put it this
way: I think we could mobilize that no later than 8:30 tonight.
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ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. But I'm concerned -
MR. SUMMERS: Too much beyond that - go ahead.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: -- if we go too far out
there, when -- we're going to actually put people in more danger by
getting out there on the road.
MR. SUMMERS: That's correct.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: And, you know, I heard
Commissioner Coletta say that he personally called one of his
constituents on Plantation Isle that lives in a mobile home and he's
going to stay right there.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: You can't make those people
move if they decide they're going to hunker down, that's it. Hunker
down, that's it.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Coyle? (No
response. )
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: I -- Mr. Summers, I feel
confident to leave that decision in your hands. You are the person in
charge of this event, and I feel very confident in that.
MR. SUMMERS: I want the opportunity to weigh the positives
and the negatives, and if I feel certainly if it's in our best interest and
if it can make a difference in anybody's safety, we want to move
forward with it.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Good.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: Do it.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: I would agree.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Agreed, yeah.
MR. SUMMERS: That's all I have for you. If you have any
other questions or concerns -
Item #4
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COMMENTS-DISCUSSED
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: That is a consensus of the
board. Any other business? Commissioner Fiala, did you want to tell
the public the phone call that you received today?
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Yes. I was very pleased to receive
a call from Governor Bush, and he was just checking to see if -- how
we were doing, if there were anything -- if there was anything that we
needed from the Governor's office or if they could be of any service
to us. And he gave me a phone number to call, and I've passed that
on to Commissioner Henning. And I was very pleased that he took
the time to personally call and show his concern and his support.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Great. Thank you.
MR. SUMMERS: My closing item is when do we need to get
together again? And it may be that we do not establish a formal time
but we just go ahead and have our routine communication channels
as we normally would. And if you would like to leave, let's let the
events work itself through and then have the opportunity to
reconvene, as needed.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: I think that --
MR. SUMMERS: And leave that up in the air at this point,
please.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay.
MR. SUMMERS: That's all I have.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: And you have my phone
number, right?
MR. SUMMERS: Yes, sir, we do.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: Should we table this portion of the
meeting also?
MR. SUMMERS: That's correct.
MR. WEIGEL: No.
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MR. MUDD: Commissioner Henning, if I could make one
statement real quick. For everybody out there in the viewing
audience. You know, folks out in the viewing audience, as you take a
look now in the visualizer, you see our projections, and that's the best
guess that everybody has with all the different model runs.
But as we've been watching the Weather Channel and you've
been watching the Weather Channel today, you'll get the hurricane
expert from the National Weather Service that'll say this hurricane's
going to come across ground between Tampa and Fort Myers. And it
used to be Tampa, Tampa, Tampa until about noontime today, and
now they're starting to talk a little bit south up to Fort Myers.
If you take that track and it goes into Fort Myers, the risk of
winds and everything else that we have are going to be a lot worse.
So I don't want to paint a rosy picture in the fact that it keeps going to
Tampa all the time.
That's the best model run that we have right now, but nobody's
betting with 100 percent surety that it's going to come across at
Tampa and we're going to have the best part of this storm. And as it
increases, our wind impacts in Collier County get more severe
because the storm gets deeper -- its diameter of the storm gets a lot
farther out.
And you'll notice from the bands that we had this morning, these
-- at first briefing, the blue band was barely touching the coast when
this storm was down here by the Keys, and now it's incorporating the
majority of Collier County.
So as the storm increases in severity, our bands of winds and the
severity of the winds that we're going to get are a little bit different.
And they are now starting to talk about landfall between Tampa and
Fort Myers, where it used to be pretty much centered on Tampa and
everybody was sitting there.
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And I notice that the guy on TV at Sanibel is getting a lot more
air time, so that tells me somebody's starting to hedge their bets just a
little bit.
And so I want to make sure just because we show you a cartoon
with our best guess that we get from the National Weather Service,
there's still a good chance that it could be south of Tampa, and in that
particular case, it makes it worse for us. That's all I have, sir.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Coyle?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yes.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Coyle, are
you with us?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yes, I am.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. I'm going to make a
motion, on extraordinary circumstances to recognize Commissioner
Coy Ie as a voting member in this emergency meeting Commissioner
Halas, will you --
COMMISSIONER HALAS: I'll second it.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: -- second that? All in favor
of the motion, signify by saying aye.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER COLETTA: Aye.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: Aye.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Aye.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Aye. Motion carries.
David Weigel, you had some concerns about tabling this meeting?
MR. WEIGEL: Well, I don't think that it's necessary to table,
because the protocol is provided in the ordinances to call a meeting
and utilize those persons, starting with the chairman -- the
commission and then the chairman on down.
So that tabling this shouldn't change the flexibility that exists in
any situation. And this morning's discussion and determination to
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table was based upon something to follow. And it appeared from Mr.
Summers' presentation that there may not be something to follow at
this point in time. So I think that to table is -- doesn't really affect
things either way.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Are you saying that we
ought to adjourn this meeting?
MR. WEIGEL: I think you can adjourn the meeting, yes.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: I think that we also could
set a time no later than to reconvene, maybe even on Saturday, and
finish out the meeting at that time.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I'll be available at any time that you
request, Commissioner Henning.
MR. WEIGEL: Well, then I think you are taking a recess in this
meeting to reconvene, as opposed to an adjournment, which is --
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. While Dan
Summers is figuring out the time when we should reconvene,
Commissioner Coyle?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yes, I'd just like to ask a question,
Commissioner Henning. I have been losing telephone contact, so I
might have missed something. But does staff have everything they
need in order to take the steps necessary to prepare for this hurricane,
or are there other decisions we must make?
MR. SUMMERS: Commissioner, Dan Summers. Sir, I think
we do. I think we have 110 percent of all the community partners,
the county departments. The morale is high, the professionalism is
excellent and the teamwork is superior. I think we're doing very,
very well and I want to thank the group that's helping us.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay, good, I'm glad to hear that.
So you don't need anything more from the commissioners, at least
until the next meeting; is that essentially correct?
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MR. SUMMERS: Sir, that is correct. I have every available
resource that Collier County has at our disposal. We have
communication with the state. We could use a little extra good luck
right now, but I have everything I need.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Okay.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Commissioner Coyle, I've
got to ask, do (sic) you have any needs, please contact myself or
Commissioner Halas or the county manager. I know that you're out
of town and you have property here. Commissioner Coyle? (No
response. )
COMMISSIONER FIALA: I think you just lost him again.
May I ask Mr. Mudd a question?
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Yes.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay, Mr. Mudd, you were saying
this morning at the meeting that you were going to make a decision
with regard to the employees at 2:00. What was your decision, sir?
MR. MUDD: I passed that information out on the web page and
got it out verbally to the constitutionals and to the school. Ma'am, at
3 :00 this afternoon the employees, the non-essential employees, went
home and the county government normal operations will be closed
tomorrow, non-essential personnel will not report.
COMMISSIONER FIALA: Okay, thank you very much.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Okay. Commissioner
Coyle?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Yes.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Do you have any needs, or
if you do have any needs with your property down here, would you
contact myself, Commissioner Halas or the county manager?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Sure. I've already talked with
someone about it, Commissioner Halas. Thank you very much.
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That's a very kind offer. I think everything that's being done will be
done. I hope we get some luck.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Amen. Do you have any
further questions?
COMMISSIONER COYLE: No, I think the staff has done an
excellent job. From what I was able to hear, it looks like they've got
the problem well in hand. I think it's a good idea to get together
again on Saturday, or maybe even Friday night to assess the extent of
damages and maybe evaluate our course of action at that time. But
whatever --
MR. MUDD: Commissioner, I think based on projection, we're
still going to have some storm tomorrow evening. May I make a
recommendation that we reconvene Saturday at 9:00 a.m. in the
morning, and we can determine if we really got hit hard. We can
give you an assessment and what efforts are being done and bring
you up to speed in that particular case.
COMMISSIONER COYLE: Thank you, Jim.
COMMISSIONER HALAS: I think that's it.
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: Any further business?
Questions? (No response.)
ACTING CHAIRMAN HENNING: The board is in recess no
later than Saturday at 9: 00 a.m.
*****
There being no further business for the good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by order of the Chair at 6:34 p.m.
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