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Naplos, Florida, July 21, 19~2
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LET IT RE REMEMBERED, that the Board ot County Com~is.ion.r. in
end for the County of Colli.r, ond also acting as the governing
bøard(.) of ouch .peciol districts as have been created according to'
law and having conductod business herein, met in Budget Work.hop
S...ion this date at 9.04 ~.M. in Building ·Fw of the Courthouse
Co~plox, tast Napl.., Florida, with tho following persons present.·
CHAIRMAN.
VICE CHAIRMAN.
C. R. ·Russ- Wimer
~ary-Francea Kruse
John A. pintor
Cll Hord Wenzel
Dðvld C. Brown (9r30 A.M.)
ALSO PRESENT. Harold L. Hall, Chief Deputy Clerk,.Jamo8 C. Cl1..,
Fiscal Officer Elinor M. Skinner, Deputy Clerk, Irving Borzon,
Utilities Manager, C. William Norman, County Manager, and Henry Hill,
Management Analyst.
AGENDA
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Utility Division Budgots
Othe r Options For Increaøed Service Fees
Other Options For Decreðlf\ed Expond i t ur e8 To Red uce
Tlaxes
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4. Report on Stðtus Of Tonti) t ive Due/get .a.nd Scheduling
Of Additional Budget Workshops
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UTILITY DIVISION BUDGETS - TENTATIVELY APPROVED
Utilities ~anager Berzon explðin~d that the 201 Budget for
Everglades City the only budget in his diviaion thðt has bð~n changed
and Is, at this point, virtually a moot point bocause the County'.
share 1s approximately $9,000 and tho St~tC'8 share is not be1ng
discussod as coming forth. 110 said to carry ttlðt 1tem in the budget In
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the evont that there 1. a chanqo ot the State'. funding poa1tion or
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polici.., would mean that at least the tor~.t and the vehicle through
which to operate would be in the budget, adding that he would still
have to return botor~ the Board to obtain approval. He said that while
the Board may approve that budget, it would not commit the Board to any
expendituro of tho.e funds until the Stðte comes forth with it. share
of the matching funds, whIch ho 80id he dið not fool would take place
in the current year.
Mr. ßerzon soid that the other budget that has a chonge 1. the
MSTD for tho south half of Sower Area wO-, otherwiso known as East
Naples, whIch is the one on which the Board approved the design for the
engineering plans for the sower system and that, currently, the County
Is in the procesa of paying back tho third installment of that loan,
adding that when that is done, lInleds thoro is some residual costs that
carryover from the interest chargea, that ahould toke care of that
item. He atated that is an MSTD and does not affect tho County budget
but is an item that appears on tho tax bill. Chairman WImer said that
item affects the County budget this year becauso it 18 goes into the
calculated inter.~t of the County, to "hlch Mr. Berzon agreed.
Responding to Chairman Wim~r, Mr. flerzon said that everything ia
complete for Sewer Area w8- and ·that the only thing that would be
required, if construction were to commence, is to make Bure the
permitting is up-to-date and t~at there might be an expenditure of
$10,000 to $12,000 for that. He said that approximately $530,000 has
been spent and that is what 1. being paid back to the MSTD.
Commissio~er Wenzel asked if the S9,000 itom i. all that h.. to
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come out of the General Fund, to which ~r. O~rzon r~8pondcd ðffirm^-
tively. Commissioner Wenzel asked where that item is in the budget,
and Mr. Berzon oxplaln.d that the item is undor 201 Everglados City.
Mr. Berzon etated that the other items ore all within the Utility
Enterprise Account Fund. Mr. Hall said that a diroct impact on the
Con.rel or Oporating Fund would occur if th~ County were not lovying
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the 1/2 million dollar tax in Sewer ServIce Aroa -ß·. He stated that
la6t year the County levied $219,000 ^nd ~r. Oerzon said that, in this
year's budget, the item shows up as double that amount because the
County is only paying off one-half of the entire loan. ~r. Hall said
th~t thore i8 nothing that can be done about that because the County
was alreody Into that matter.
RespondIng to Commissioner plator's question regarding General
Revenuos of $14,645.00 for Everglades City, Mr. Bcrzon saId that h. was
in error and that $14,000 is the correct figure and that ~ncludes
administrative charge. as wolle Ho rccommen~~d that tho Board retain
that item in tho budget, and that if tho COMmiGsioners wðnt to reduce
it to some nominal amount so that It is available a~ a budgot item,
that revision could be modo ðnd that if the State comes through wIth
any funding, if the Board 60 desIres to make an ~ppropriðte
contribution it would be in the budqet. Comminsioner PIstor asked if
that figure is for moro than Evorglndes City, and Mr. Borzon responded
that it covcro ðn area of about tw~nty-fiv~ square mIlos. Responding
to Chairman WImer, Mr. ßerzon said that he recommends that the
$14,~45.00 rem~ln in the budgot.
Commissioner Kruse refered to It~m 4923, which stðte8 on the
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will be started next year, but that two pages farther there is an
indication that 201 Deep Well Injection is 313, and she aaked if that
is tho line itom name, to which Mr. Berzon explained that is just for
identification purposes, adding that tho County's dosign i. for perco-
lation ponds. Chairman Wililcr askod why the buðget is not changod to
reflect that? Mr. Borzon explained said th~t the item iB carried
under the 201 identification in the event that, at 6~me futuro time,
tho County applies for Fedoral funds, there would be a need to identify
the itom that wðy. He explainod that when the area was atudied, the
recommended effluent ðisposal, at that time, wae doep well injection
and that the County is not pursuing that now.
Mr. Borzon stated thnt he expectB to receive ð finalized estimate
this week and, if it appalH5 thllt the County has all the funds, howill
return with the recommendation that the County go with th& plant
expan3ion and that the expansion, as well as the percolation ponds,
will take care of all the effluent other than spr~y irrigation latèr,
if the decision is made to utilize that procedure.
Commissioner' pistor said that, in his opinion, if the Everglades
area needs a ~cwer system, the persons in that area sr.ould pay tor it,
and that should happen without ð Btudy, to which ~r. Berzon said that
is the Board's discretion and that tho BCC was not obligated in the
very beginning to even commit itself to fund that. However, the Board
chose that direction and has taken that course during the past tour
years. no sðid that it the Board chooses to drop it and tell
Everglades City that -they are on their own- it they want a 201 study
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(or thoir aroa. th~t io tho ~o~rd'o pr~roqntivo.
Commissioner Wenzel moved, seconded by Commissioner pistor and
carried 3/l, with Commissioner Wimor opposed, to dolete the Everglad..
are. funding in General Fund 14645. Commissioner Wonzel .aid that If
that area wants to be a municipality, they should aupport thoms.lve..
Commissioner Kruse asked Mr. Berzon what the total budget figure
is for tho Utility Division, and he responded that It depends upon
whother the total capItal and operating are combIned, adding that tho
capital i. over SO million dollars and that tho operating is in the
range of 3-1/2 to 4 million dollars.
Commlssionor Pi8tor moved, seconded by Commissioner Wenzel and
carried 4/0, that the Utility Division Budgftt be tentatively approved.
Mr. Borzon ðskod for clarification and Chairman Wimcr said that
tho final budget decision~ would bo mðdo during the budget hcarings.
DISCUSSION RECARDINC OTHER FEES THAT CAN BE INCREASED AND LICRTINC
DISTRICTS
Chief Deputy Clerk Hall stlltcd thl'lt if tho BOllrd dId comQ up with
a million dollars from one of the two sources discussød yeaterday,
adding a millIon to tho bond issue for the jailor taking a millIon out
of Fund 302, moving that million into dobt 8prvice for the jDil, and'
not put sales tax of one mIllion into debt service, that would fund the
County's budget this year. He added that ð wl'ly to do that, which Is
logal, in his opinion, is to put that one million dollars Into debt
service not for the jail but for the Cepitl'll I~provement Program 302
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debt service. Ho explained thl'tt would Jr.£'nn thl'tt the paymont from',
Guarantood F.ntitlemont portion into the old bond issue dobt service
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put into the
Conoral rund. He said that would give les8 than $~OO,OOO.OO a year,
however, if that action could be taken this year and next year, ~here
would be almost $400,000.00 more cash carryover this year and the sa~.
amount next year. Responding to CommisGioner Wenzel, Mr. Hall aaid
that tho County would not be borrowing one million dollars because it
already would have boen borrowed as a part of the 5 million dollar8
receiv~d in 1978. A discussion followed regarding this subject during
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which County ~~n~gcr Norman snld that the 1977 Bond Is~ue money
interest rate i8 7' versus 12'.
A!ter Chairman Wimer requestcd clarification, Mr. Hall said that
there are approximately one million dollars worth of capital projects
currently planned by the County tor the 1977 Bond Issue and that his .
suggestion was not to spend that money and tako that amount of money
and put it into that Bond Issue's debt service and then it would not be
necessary to use the State Revonuo Sharing for the debt aervice and
that money would atay in the Ceneral Fund to be used to fund the
operations, with Commissioner Wonzel adding that is thG item with the
7' interest rate. Responding to Commissioner ristor, ~r. Hall said
that the money is ~ne million dollars of the unspent portion of tho
five million dollars, and that Account 302 represents tho five million
dollara. Mr. Hall continued to explðin that this approach would leave
tho 1.4 million dollars reserve in tact to the place that the reserve
would then be available, at thi8 point in time, next year. He pointed
out that in each approach where o~e-tlme money tor a capital project S.
takon and used to fund operating expenses, it 18 ð on. year fix and the
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following year the sa..,o .1mount of ono-t i..,o money mUGt hI! found. ITB
oald that n~xt ye~r toxes CAn be incrcðs~d 15. ~nd th~t this yoar thera
can be no increaso.
Mr. Norman s~id that ho felt ovoryone sharos th~ concorn that if
the County buys its way out of a problem this coming year, what would
the County do tho following year. He suggested that one poaslbility
would be to use tho annual debt sorvico for next yoar's budgot and
preserve the debt service the following ycnr, which would ensuro that
there would be enough money loft to pay tho debt sorvice as that monoy
would accumulate interest and be aval1~h16 for all future dobt service
until it waR used. Commisøioner Kruse said that would free only 1/2
11\ 11 110n dollðrs ond not one million dollars, and Mr. Norman pointed out
that if $400,000 is spent this year and $400,000 the ycar after, a
highor rate of interest would bc earned. Co..,misRioner Xruse added this
would mean tho County would be onn million short for this budget year.
*****Commissionor Brown entered the meeting at 9130 A.M.*****
Chairman Wimer asked the CommiGsioners if they wanted to ask Mr.
Hall and Mr. Norman to begin exploring the ðforcmention~d process and
Mr. Hall explained thðt tho procoss in in the same roalm of borrowing
for long torm payment to meot current operating needs. ~r. Hall said
that thero is no other way to proceed oxcept to reduce operating
expons~s or Incrnaso revenuos.
Chðlrml!ln Wimer ðsk('d if it \o/olllc1 be possible to tnko tho $1.2
million and not do thoso projects ðnd ~pply thoso funds dirr.ctly to
some of the Improv~montB needed in th~ exp~nßion project, to which Mr.
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Hall oxplalned that approach would only give approximately $100,000.00
of cash for operatlnq purpose. this year and that one million dollars
Is needed. He said that would just reduce the dobt service by about
$IOO,OOO, adding that if the Sl.2 million 18 appliod to debt service
that vould wfree-up· the State Revenue Sharing to be uaed for operating
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A discussion continued during which Chairman Wimer clarified that
S400,000 would be picked up throe times, once thia year, once during
next budget year and onc~ after that, and that SROO,OOO would be
wpicked up· for this next year. ~r. Hall said that two payments are
made a year and that this yaar the payment is $263,276 and an Inter.at
payment in the middle of the year of just over $100,000 and, therefore,
the total figure Is approxlmatoly $370,000, but only $263,276 can be ,
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obtained this yaar. Rosponding to Commissioner Pi.tor, Mr. Hall said'
that the payments have been coming from State Revenue Sharing.
Chairman Wimer explained __I,at the Board would still be using long-tnrll
borrowing to payoff one year's operating expense.
DISCUSSION RE TAXINC DIñTRICTS
Mr. Hall Ba~d that there is $147,890.00 in new lighting districts
scheduled for October 1, 1982, and Mr. Norman responded to Mr. RaIl by
~aying that thore ha. boon no action by the Board to levy taxes that
can create a lighting district. Ch~lrman Wimer said that Individual
developers can deal directly with Florida rower and Light.
Commissioner Kru.e movod, seconded by Commiesioner Wensel and
carried unanimously, that the Board deter for one year the new lighting
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districts in tho a~ount of SI47,090.00.
^ dhcusslon followed dur1ng wh1ch "~r. IInll explained that of the
$147,890.00, Sll0,000 ia the Pino Ridge Industrinl Park MSTD and
Chairman Wi~er asked ~r~ Nor~an to investigate how far along that
process is, as he undorstando the contract has been awarded to the
engineers to do preliminary work on that item. Mr. Hall recommended
that the Board give administrative direct~on on those kinds of items
that normally would be done bocausc funds aro ðvnilablo through tho
Ceneral Fund, adding that, in tho future, he roels it would be best if
no contracts are nwarded until th~ ~oney in in hand. Chairman Wimer
~aid that he thought that direction was given last week. ~r. Norman
said hè ~uld find out how much ~oney ia involved in tho PIne Ridgo
Industrial Park MSTD.
Mr. Hall said that other nrc~s that should be considercd by the
Board are operating expenses in the MST's for tho unincorporated area.
A discussion followed during which he ðskod the Co~missionors to
consider if they want to cut back on the ~ðintenðnco of residential
streets in the unincorporatod arra which are funded though nd valorem
taxes. He explained that in Fund 175, the unincorporated arca goneral,
the County 18 levying $272,000.00 in taxos becausc the County has used
all o~ the carry forward and rescrve from that fund and Is depending
upon the Ccneral Fund to handle that until Octobor 1, which reduced the
taxes by 85' from last year's 1.8 million dollars. no said that,
regarding the Unincorporated MST for roads, the taxes last year Wftrft
$2.4 million and that this year, since sales tax monoy was put into
that itom, $65A,OOO.OO ia propocd to be levied, ð reduction of $].7
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million. Chairman Wimer said that he te.ls that road. are the last
thing that should bft cut, adding they are a necesaity. Commissioner
Pistor agreed, noting that if the money is cut and the roads
deteriorate, the final coat would be twice as much. Chairman Wimer
said he would defer building new roads, but that maintaining and paving
oxisting roadwðYs should be not be cut.
Mr. Hall doscribed other areas where, it expenditures were reduced
taxes could be reduced, thereby adding to the base on which the Canersl
Fund toxes could bo raised such as the Colden Gata and Ochopee Fire
Departments. He ßð1d that thoee items would not constitute a large sum
of money. following a brief discuasion, the general conaensus of the
Board was not to cut those tire department budgets. Mr. Hall said that
the way the State formula is designed, if taxes are lowered In any
.pe~ta~ taxing district, that adds to the base of the formula over the
Ceneral Fund where taxos can be raised in that fund, adding that the
money is kept scparate.
Following discusston, ~r., Hall stllted that 1.4 mllllon dollars 18
the minimum amount needed in reserve and that ~verything above that
amount can be used in the operating budget, if the ~oard desires.
Responding to Commissioner pistor, Mr. Hall stated that $750,000.00 is
in Contingency this year. Commissioner Wenzel moved, seconded by
Commissioner Kruse and carried unanimously, that 1.9 million dollar. be
left In the Contingency Fund and that the cash carryover amount of
$835,000.00 be moved to the Cenoral Fund, with half that amount added
to Contingency and halt available for operations.
Mr. Norman said that the previously dlscusaod contract for Pine
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Ridge Industrid Park MST hðs been approvod by the BCC, and one invoice
has alroady boon roceivC!ð with III loan of S(,s,oóo.ao hðvinq boen
Ini tiat&d to pay for tho f1 rat pha so. Chairman Wimer said that, ..
long as the ~~rk i8 in progress, ho would rathor that contract be
finished. Commi..lon~r pistor ~ovod, .econded by Commissioner ~ru..,
and carried unani~ou.ly, that tho Pine Ridge Industrial Park work be
continued.
Mr. H11l d1stributed a 11st of all Special ~ST'B, for whièh the
County Manager i. responsible, showing the change. in the budget
betveon last year and this y~ar. Chairman Wimer noted that the ðis-
trlcts have a very small effect on the Ccneral Fund when they are
re~oved, to which Mr. Norman aaid that those easily removed are the new
ones. lie referred to the referendum in November regarding independence
of the Golden Gate Fire District, adding that would have an effect of
improving next year's budget.
CommIssioner W~nzol asked if the ltemregarding MSTD Road Con-
struction 1 through 5 r~ferred to new roads or maintenance, and Mr.
~rman said that was for resurfacing, adding it is heavy reconstruction
which is basically capital improvements. Commissioner pist~r said if
all the new districts, except Pine Ridge, are removed, the other
lighting districts only amount to a little over $30,000, to which Mr.
Hall .aid that romoving that amount would mean that there would be
$37,000 which would not have to bo roduced in the county-wide funds.
Commissionor pistor said that people have talked with him about the
lighting districts and that they have wanted them for a long time, to
which Chairman Wimer agreed.
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DISCUSSION RE ^M8ULANCE BUDOET
A discussion followed regarding the Ambulance budget, which ~r.
Norman explained i. within the 5' guidelines. Chairman Wimor asked how
much deficit there WAS this y~ar? Hr. Norman 8aid that tho adopted
budget for the current year Is $1,443,000 and that the recommended
budget is Sl,378,000.00, a decrease of 5'. He explained that $879,000
would come out of the General Fund Ðn~ that S493,000 is projected in
feos. Chðirman Wimer said that a partial increase in rates was
requested and he asked if any increase has been considered for the,
deficit, and Mr. Norman stated that an incroð8e could be requested. .
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Commissioner Wonzel asked if any thought has been given to
incroasing the rates on a district basis, and Mr. Norman said that he
did not see how that could be done, although he had considered It. Mr.
Norman said that staff could give the Commissioners a report on th~
situation. Ch~lrman Wimer said that Mr. Jack Wampler, working under
Mr. Greenfiold, han done a magnificent job collecting the ambulance
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ANIMAL LICENSES DISCUSSED
Hr. Norman said that animal licenses could be increased.
BE~LTH DEP~RTMENT DISCUSSION
Referring to the Health Department charges, Hr. Norman laid that
Dr. Thomas told him that departmont has been asaured by HRS that they
will not receive any cuts in the current year's funda, however, the
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'following yelH: they can look for a 25\ cut in their funds.
CENERAL DISCUSSION
~r. Hall 5u~~pgted that he and the Fisc~l Officer could look at
the debt service between the two funds which håve been discussed and
seo what cnn and cðnnot be done legally and have that information
av~ilable for the Commissioners.
Ho said if S200,000 is taken from the
Sh~riff, $400,000 from Fund 303 and, if the S700,000 comes through from
Solid Wagte, there would he 1.4 million doll~r5 to be cut from op~ra-
tin'] hu¿g~ts. lie g.Jid thðt th" opcrllting bu~q('t$ under the County
Mnndg~r ranq~ fro~ 20~ to 3n~ cuts to r" to In\ increases, ~dding that
t!',., bl'.J l~cr<:)l~h~S H~ in r"¡:- rOlJrt ðr.d Cri~in(11 ';lI~;',ic(' ~y!';te..,. He
$.11: i\,.1 aur~::tion L; \.,~,,'tr·~r 1.1\ Million <101L]£5 Ci,n bo cut from those
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t~n ~rr~s ~ithcul ~~rlo~~ly Jf~ccting the ovp.rall orcr~tlon of the
Justice Systpm. C~¿irmon ~i~er said that h~ did not think the Commis-
sion0rs w~rc looking for the entire amount to come from the Criminal
Justic>3 SY5t·~~. 1'<:) ::)i)\(! th.'1t the 5\ directivo which the COMMissioners
g,we a.HIler in t~~" Y~,H WI'S too high. Mr. 1',111 s,)id that a 2\ to 3'
¿ecre~sc fro~ the current year's bu¿qet 1~ what i5 necossary. Chairman
Wimor told Mr. H~ll to con5iè~r the 1.4 million dollars on the other
bond issue as a l~st resort aft~r the ACC is finished with operational
expenditures. ~r. Hðll said that he would bring informðtion back to
the Board, by c~tcgory, of wnðt the oper~tlnq bu~get is for the current
yedr, what the request is, what the percentage increase is and what
th~t amount Is of the total incre~se request, to which Ch~irman Wimer
snid thðt ~r. H~ll could give that Information to everyone when he
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f1¿11 to I""~ct wl~h Sheriff
~ogers, the Courts, Clerk, Health Department, ~uperv1sor of Fl~ctlons,
Tax Collector and the County ~anðger and expl~ln that 1.4 million
dollars is needed. ron~is8ioner ~enzel ð£~cd ~here the sh~rts are that
show ~hot the ov~rpll budget for 19P1 was for every depart~cnt Sn the
g~v~rn~ent ond whðt i5 nroposed for 19~', to ~hlch ~r. Hall said h~ had
th~t information an~ wo~ld give it to the Co~m!ssioners.
Mr. Hall said that as soon as the Property lppraiser issues the
assessed values there will be thirty days during which the Poard must
adopt a tentative budget and he agreed to follow Chairman Wi~er'5
directive.
CommiSfi!oner PIstor rðIse~ a point regarding the ~tate law which
!:t'lys that the TðX Collector' CI'H\not collect a porcentage from the
incorporated areðs for collecting theIr taxes an~ that the County is,
thprefore, pðyIng for the collection of the CIty of Naples' and the
School Board's t~xcs. He said that the 1-1/7' or 3' of the ~chool
Po¿rd taxes plus the City tðXoS amount to a fnIrly large sum of ~oney
thðt the County has to pay for that servIce. He said that he felt this
:".oc;lè be ð 5eparl!te iter:1 so thl!lt it definitp.ly 5h:;,ws up. ~~r. HIIIl
::-:. t~"H the.> Bce pl'ys a little over 2t to thl' 'j¡¡y Collector wnich 16
~'" '"':;-~nse of tne FOðrd. Commi!:sloner Pi!:tor !õ/!id, in his opinion, if
thJt money is shown in the right place then more could be put in the
GC~0r~1 Fund and not In the ~STU'S and that would let the public know
:~..,~ ~~~(:~nc is ~0Pttlng ð tree rlde~.
~r. Nor~an referred to the agenda for the July 27, 19R2 ECC
meeting ðnd requested that the Comm~ssloners look at the fee schedule
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, It~m clIr.lu#J.ly, adding that the Englnøerln'1 Department is requesting a
subatantial Increðse.
The decision was madp. to hold thp. next ~udget Workshop on Tuesday,
July 27, 1982 following the BCC meeting.
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There being no furth~r businc3s to como before the Commißslon, the
Workshop Session was adjourned by ordQr of the Chair at lC:20 A.~.
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