PARAB Minutes 04/18/2018MINUTES OF TFIE MEETING OF TI{E PARKS AND RECREATION
ADVISORY BOARD
North Collier Regional Park
Naples, Florida
April 18,2018
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, the Collier County Parks and Recreation Advisory
Board in and for the County of Collier, having conducted business herein, met on
this date at2:00 P.M. at North Collier Regional Park, Naples, FL, with the
following members present:
CFIAIRMAN: Mr. Edward rrskirr Olesky
VICE-CI{AIRMAN: Mr. Phil Brougham
Ms. Mary Bills, Advisory Board Member
Ms. Rebecca Gibson-Laemel, Advisory Board Member
Mr. David Saletko, Advisory Board Member
Mr. Murdo Smith, Advisory Board Member
ALSO PRESENT:
Mr. Steve Carnell, Department Head, Public Services Department
Mr. Barry Williams, Division Director, Parks and Recreation
Miguel Rojas, Jr., Administrative Assistant, Parks and Recreation
Mr. Dane Atkinson, Project Manager, Facilities Management
Mr. Rick Garby, Parks Superintendant, Parks and Recreation
Mr. Cormac Giblin, Manager, Housing and Grant Development
Mr. Shane Bailey, Warm Introduction Networking, Inc.
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I. Call to Order
Chairman Oleski called the meeting to order at 2:00 p.m.
II. Pledge of Allegiance
The Pledge of Allegiance was recited and a moment of silence observed.
III. Approval of the Agenda
Mr. Brougham entered a motion to approve the agenda as presented. Ms. Bills seconded
the motion. All members were infavor. The motion was caruied.
IV. Approval of the Minutes
Mr. Saletko entered a motion to approve the March 21, 2018 meeting minutes. The
motionwas seconded by Ms. Gibson-Laemel. All members were infavor. The motion
was carried.
V. Capital Projects Update - Mr. Dane Atkinson
Big Corkscrew Island Regional Park - Work on the project continues on schedule,
with 60% design anticipated in June 2018.
Question (Mr. Smith): Are changes to the park design allowable between now and the
completion of 600/o design, specifically with regard to the pool and its functionality for
the entire community.
Answer: Ways to contain the overall cost of the park are being studied, with changes to
the community center for alternative uses initially considered, however the size of the
building will remain at approximately 18,600 square feet. Consolidation of two buildings
on the great lawn is also being considered. The pool will presently retain the same
footprint; however, specific details of the pool design have yet to be determined. Mr.
Williams encouraged PARAB input with regard to the detail work of the pool design.
Mr. Brougham requested preliminary concept drawings for the community center to be
shared with PARAB for input on design as well, prior to 60%o completion.
Eagles Lakes Community Pool - An extension was granted to the contractor for
completion of the project following work intemrption due to Hurricane Irma, however a
target date of May 28,2018 remains the goal of the contractor. A ribbon cutting
ceremony will be scheduled when the actual completion date becomes clearer.
VI. New Business
a. Business Networking Expo Alcohol Permission - Mr. Shane Bailey
Mr. Shane Bailey of Warm lntroduction Networking, Inc., a veteran owned and operated
business networking organization, addressed PARAB to request approval of an
application to sell and/or consume alcohol at an upcoming event scheduled to be held at
North Collier Regional Park Q.{CRP) on July 20,2018. This organization holds three
networking events monthly; one in Ft. Myers, one in Naples, and one in Marco Island,
with one large event annually, which this year is plarured to be held at NCRP.
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250 particpants per hour are expected over the course of the six-hour event, which will
run from 2:00 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. Notable participants of the event may include Florida
State Senator Kathleen Passidomo, schedule permitting, and General Frederick Franks,
Jr., a four-star General of the Army, celebrated author, and Naples resident, who has also
championed local veteran health initiatives. Private security will be provided for the
event and a per-person limit of two alcohol tickets will be enforced.
Question (Mr. Smith): Is there a cut-off time after which alcohol will no longer be
served at the event?
Answer: Alcohol will stopped being served at 8:30 p.m., and the gymnasium will be
vacated by 10:00 p.m.
Question (Mr. Brougham): How will the proceeds from this event benefit local
veterans and/or children' s organizations?
Answer: Intrinsic needs have been identified locally with regard to veterans and
children. This year's initiative is focused on providing copayment assistance to veteran's
seeking medical assessment prior to scheduling treatment through the Veteran's
Administration (VA), cutting appointment wait time at the VA by up to 50%.
Mr. Smith entered a motion to approve the sale of alcohol at the Warm Introduction
Networking,Inc., event to be held at North Collier Regional Park on July 20, 2018
from 2:00 p.m. to 8:30 p.m- Mr. Saletko seconded the motion. All were infavor. The
motion was canied.
Mr. Williams subsequently noted that the local ordinance allows for the sale of alcohol in
the Exhibit Hall at NCRP; however, the gymnasium was the requested venue for the
event. Clarification was requested of Mr. Bailey as to whether the Exhibit Hall would be
suitable for the event. Mr. Bailey was concerned that the Exhibit Hall may not be large
enough to accommodate vendor booth space, which last year totaled 55+ vendors, plus
the expected25} participants expected per hour. Ms. Gibson-Laemel noted that vendor
booths may also be set up in the lobby and hallways as well in order to maximize event
space within the Exhibit Hall.
Mr. Williams will seek clarification as to the allowability of alcohol sales in the
rymnasium, as well as to the availability of the Exhibit Hall for the event on July 20,
2018.
Question (Mr. Smith): If the Board should be required to review any issues related to
this event, would there be time prior to July 20,2018 for adequate marketing of the
event?
Answer: As PARAB has voted unanimously to approve the sale of alcohol at this event,
Mr. Williams will make appropriate inquiries and update Mr. Bailey as soon as possible
as to the venue allowable for use at NCRP; i.e., the gymnasium or the Exhibit Hall.
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Mr. Smith suggested the Collier County Parks and Recreation Practices and Procedures
Manual pertaining to alcohol beverage sale and consumption in County Parks and
Facilities be amended as follows:
Page 4 of 6: Special Section 6: Alcoholic Beverages Sales at Collier County Parks and
Recreation Ownded and/or Operated Marinas, sections C and D: Removal of the word
ttmarina" staff.
Mr. Brougham requested clarification as to the specificity of alcoholic beverages
allowable to be sold in County Parks and Recreation Facilities as per page lof 6 of the
stated document, which defines "Alcoholic Beverage" as beer, wine, champagne, and
vodka as authorized by Resolution. Mr. Williams stated this definition needs to be
reviewed and better defined. The definition had been previously amended to include
several types of spirits which were to be sold at the annual U.S. Open Pickleball
Championship held in Naples, however was not written as all inclusive.
Collier County Community Housing Plan - Mr. Cormac Giblin
Mr. Williams introduced Mr. Giblin, Manager, Housing and Grant Development, who
presented the Collier County Community Housing Plan, which had been presented to the
BOCC in October 2017. A brief video was shown which discussed housing affordability
concerns in Collier County, as well as the perceived overall benefits to the community
with regard to affordable housing options.
Mr. Giblin's presentation began with sharing the following statistical facts identified in
Collier County:
+61.4o ofjobs pay less than $33,250 per year.
+57,567 households are cost burdened.
+Rental rates were up l5o/o last year and l4%o the year prior.
* Prospective employees cannot afford to live in Collier County.
+40,000 people commute daily to work in Collier County from outside of the county.
+Little to no vacancy in rentals.
Commonly asked questions were reviewed, which covered the definition of affordable
housing, individuals identified as being in need of such housing, and how much
affordable housing is necessary in the county.
Affordable housing was defined as not being public housing, slum housing, or a value
reducer ofsurrounding properties, but rather safe, decent, and affordable housing, costing
less than 30oh of aresident's monthly income. Within this definition are income targets
the BOCC has placed emphasis on, ranging from extremely low income families to "gap"
incomes. A further breakdown in terms of salaries and occupations was shown, as well
as rent versus home ownership affordabilty models based on a 3 person household.
The type of housing which needs to be built, how much, and where it should be located
within the county was addressed.
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The recommendation made by the Housing Plan was for affordable housing to be built\/ county wide. The demand model formula was reviewed, which identifies gross need
minus existing inventory, resulting in the number of new affordable units needed yearly,
which at this time was identified as 1,665 units per year. This final number is further
broken down by income, occupation, rental versus owner occupied, etc. The approach
taken was to develop a realistic plan that would maintain a sufficient supply for all
income sectors, being flexible and able to respond to changing market conditions.
For strategic guidance, in January 2017, the BOCC enlisted the assistance ofthe Urban
Land Institute (ULI), an organization which provides leadership in the responsible use of
land, and in creating and sustaining thriving communities. The ULI study suggested that
affordable housing is an economic issue and not a social issue. The study introduced the
concept of"cost burdened," defined as residents who pay greater than 30% oftheir
monthly income on housing. Specific job sectors were identified as being cost burdened
and included public safety, health care, education, and service workers, as well as
entry/middle level professionals, with these job sectors comprising over 50o% of all jobs
in the county. The ULI study cautioned that if the affordable housing needs are not
addressed, 11,000 additional households will become "severely cost burdened," spending
in excess of50% of monthly income on housing.
A ULI workshop yielded 35 individual recommendations for the BOCC to consider,
which were each assigned under 5 separate categories:
+Regulation and Gorvemance
\/ +Increase, maintain, or restore supply
+Enhance transportation options
+Increase wages
+Communication and engagement
The BOCC forwarded these recommendations to the Housing Stakeholder Committee,
whose mission was to provide Collier County residents a diverse range ofaccessible
housing options. The committee members represented a cross-section ofinterests,
including business, finance, govemment, schools, and healthcare. Ofthe original 35 ULI
recommendations, the Board recommended 27 for firther study by the committee. A
response model was subsequently created from the data with which they had been given,
refining the original recommendations along the same categories. The final plan was met
with broad support by various county agencies.
One recommendation, which was on the agenda for discussion at the April 18, 2018
PARAB meeting, was for the use of publicly owned land to increase the supply of
affordable housing. The Board of County Commissioners took the first step of action on
this recommendation on February 27 ,2018 by passing Resolution No. 2018-39:
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"WHEREAS, the Board of County Commissioners accepted the Community Housing
Plan and its recommendation to consider affordable housing needs in future land _
acquisitions and the possibility of co-locating housing that is affordable with future
public facilities;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE BOARD OF COLINTY
COMMISSIONERS OF COLLIER COLINTY, FLORIDA, to address the growing need
for housing that is affordable, that public properties now owned by the County, or to be
acquired by the County in the future, be considered for use as affordable housing, or for
the co-location of affordable housing and public facilities."
As a result of this Resolution, a review of county owned lands was conducted in summer
2017. Sixteen potential sites were reviewed and assessed by certain criteria, including
vacancy, restrictions, location, size, zoning, etc., of which 9 properties were chosen for
presentation to the BOCC on June 27,2017. The Board selected 6 of the parcels,
directing fi.rther research along strict criteria, which ultimately resulted in 2 sites being
presented to the BOCC at the December 12,2017 meeting. These two sites included
Bembridge PUD and Manatee Park. The BOCC directed Staff to generate a Request for
Information $ff on ways to incorporate affordable housing at these two sites, which
ultimately generated ten responses of varying levels of detail. Finally, the BOCC
directed Staff to complete the implementation of all Housing Plan line items prior to
moving forward with either site.
Next steps were outlined as follows:
+Bring Housing Plan recommendations to the BOCC across the meeting schedule; v
approximately 4-5 recommendations to be presented per meeting.
*All recommendations presented will be reviewed by the BOCC in summer 2018.
+BOCC will re-review the Bembridge PUD and Manatee Park sites, with development of
a detailed scope and uses for these sites in fall 2018.
+RFP responses reviewed and ranked, with the developer partner selected in winter 2018,
if a decision is made to move forward.
+Approval process will include rezoning, site development plan, infrastructure
construction, and vertical development; a two to three year process in total.
Several community input meetings on this issue have been held, with more scheduled
through May 2018. The 2008 conceptual site plan for the Manatee Park was shown,
which reflects a "passive pffik," with no planned playgrounds or ball fields. There has
been no funding identified for this project until2025.
Adjacent community concerns initially expressed in response to the concept of affordable
housing being constructed within Manatee Park included fears of section 8 housing,
increased crime, park decimation, lack of proximity to job centers, and construction of
750-950 units, resulting in a burden on the local school, as well as increased traffic.
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However, examples ofaffordable housing complexes which presently exist in the county
were shown to be as indistinguishable from other communities.
It was emphasized that time remains for community input into the process moving
forward as to different ways to incorporate the BOCC's desire to include affordable
housing at the Manatee Park site, as well as future county acquisitions and county
building sites.
Question (Mr. Smith): Where is the Bembridge site located?
Answer: The Bembridge site is located on Santa Barbara Boulevard, between Radio
Road and Davis Boulevard.
Question (Mr. Smith): How big is that site?
Answer: 5. 1 1 acres are available for the purposes of this project.
Question (Ms. Gibson-Laemel): Clarification was requested with regard to the site plan
for Manatee Park and whether the map shown included existing or planned structures.
Answer: The illustration shown is of an existing site plan; in particular, the area in
question is currently a parking over grass area.
Question (Ms. Gibson-Laemel): Where do you see building units there and how many?
Answer: That would be determined by the BOCC in terms of the number of units and
how to keep the existing plan while coJocating affordable units there.
Question (Ms. Gibson-Laemel): How much space on the site plan would be taken up
by the 1600+ units referenced earlier as affordable housing units that are needed in
Collier County?
Answer: Mr. Williams stated the developer responses to the BOCC directed Request for
Information (RII) will allow the respondants to share their vision of how the park may
best be developed for the purposes ofthis project. Mr. Giblin also reiterated that the
recommendation to coalate affordable housing on county owned property isjust 1 of27
recommendations made by the ULI study and therefore, not intended to solve the entire
issue at one site or with one recommendation. Mr. Williams shared that historically there
has been limited co-usage of park land with housing, for example, an onsite Sherifls
deputy housed at Sugden Park.
Question (Mr. Smith): Is there a list of avilable houses for sale on the market now that
are listed for under $250K?
Answer: Real time availability of market supply was taken into account when
calculating affordable housing needs in the county, which is planned to be updated every
6 to 12 months. When the demand summary was created in September 2017, 1323 units
were available for sale at $250K or less, with 499 rental units available costing $2000 per
month or less. These units were backed out ofthe total demand identified.
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Question (Mr. Smith): Clarification was requested with regard to the category
breakdown by housing costs versus monthly income.
Answer: In Collier County, affordable housing is defined as housing that does not cost
more than 30% of monthly income. In2017, the median income in the county was
$68,300 and in 2018 has been identified as $75,000. Within the realm of affordable
housing, there are 5 different income categories; extremely low, very low, low, moderate,
and gap (represented by the percentage of the median income). Most federal and state
assistance programs are directed towards providing assistance to those at the low and less
categories (HUD, etc), with some flexibillity to address moderate income families. Due
to the high housing costs in Collier County, approximately 12-13 years ago, the BOCC
created the "gap" category, which includes families that do not quality for federal and
state assistance, however income is insufficient to rent or buy property in Collier County.
The State has since also recognized this same need for above moderate income or "gap"
households. Income limits are assessed differently based on persons per household, with
the Collier County Housing Plan designed using total household income based upon a 3-
person household as the model.
Question (Mr. Smith): Are there programs still available, such as the SHIP program,
which provide financial assistance for housing for lower income families.
Answer: The SHIP program is a State program which provides assistance with home
ownership. The Collier County Housing Authority also offers a Federal rental assistance
program, which is a limited voucher program, awarding 450+ rental assistance vouchers
to qualified county residents, which covers the portion of rent which is above the 30o/o
income marker. However, an additional recommendation made by the ULI study was for
the county to adopt a local firnding source to address incomes not traditionally assisted by
Federal programs, so as to offer a local rental assistance program.
Question (Mr. Smith): Is there a requirement for developers to include affordable
housing in their new housing developments?
Answer: There has never been a requirement for affordable housing to be offered within
new developments, however there are incentives built into building codes, such as the
affordable housing density bonus. An additional study recommendation was to make this
option more desireable for developers in order to incorporate affordable housing into
their development plans.
Question (Mr. Saletko): Are there any laws which stipulate that a specificied number of
affordable housing units be built as new developments are constructed?
Answer: There is a State requirement which Collier County must meet, but it is not on a
developer/development basis. The county could be held accountable if the overall local
housing picture became overly imbalanced based upon the income categories previously
mentioned.
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Mr. Brougham clarified that an initial response received from a developer following the
Request for Information was the source of the information circulating that 700+ housing
units may be constructed at Manatee Park, in relation to density bonuses offered up to 12
units per acre.
Question (Mr. Brougham): When considering county owned properties as sites for
affordable housing, has the "Bayshore Gateway Triangle" parcel of land already been
sold? Is the property still county owned?
Answer: Per Mr. Carnell, there was discussion regarding a development concept for that
area, possibly linking Sugden Park to the development plan; however this idea has
abated. Per Mr. Williams, after confirmation by a representative of the Bayshore
Gateway Triangle CRA, there are two parcels of property at this location. The "triangle"
parcel is under contract and the larger parcel is undergoing the planning process and will
be presented to the BOCC for their recommendation.
Question (Mr. Smith): Is the scope of development of the Bembridge location the same
as is being considered for Manatee Park?
Answer: This is unknown; however, the intent of the request for information was to
solicit ideas for ways to preserve park uses, as well as to "include" housing within the
park site plan and not "designate" the site for housing.
Question (Ms. Gibson-Laemel): Please define the term co-locate?
Answer: Co-locate means to accommodate both housing uses and park uses at a
particular site.
Question (Ms. Gibson-Laemel): When county owned lands were reviewed, was Parks
land included, exclusive of the Parks Master Plan? For example, "Does the site have
signifi cant growth restrictions (environmental, easements, deeds, etc).
Answer: When peforming the analysis, Staff did not view the Master Plan objective as a
necessarily significant restriction, although it is a consideration. The restrictions are
more applicable to potential legal and contractual entitlements, environmental concerns,
etc.
Ms. Gibson-Laemel stressed greater consideration of the Parks Master Plan when
performing the analysis and prior to moving forward with the process.
Question (Mr. Smith): If acreage is used for affordable housing at the Manatee Park
site, would the Parks Division be compensated with an equal number of acreage
elsewhere in the county?
Answer: If Parks land is used as a site for the development of affordable housing, the
community park acreage would be decreased by same. As developer proposals and
partnerships are more seriously considered, the possibility exists for a land
"reimbursement" elsewhere, which would therefore, not decrease the total community
park acreage.
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VII. Adopt a Park
There were no Adopt a Park reviews scheduled to be discussed at this meeting.
V[I. Director's Highlights
There were no Director's Highlights presented at the meeting.
IX. PubliclBoard Comments
Public Comments:
1. Mr. John Patterson: Mr. Patterson has been a resident of Fiddler's Creek
approximately one year, and whose home is located approximately 300 yards from
Manatee Park. Mr. Patterson has attended several of the prior community input meetings
on this topic and wondered why the topic of the park being abandoned has yet to be
raised as an issue. The property has been zoned as a park for 20+ years; however, the
funds for development were diverted to be used at Eagle Lakes Park. Mr. Patterson
stressed the balance of housing and park land in a community. Further, there is more
affordable housing found in his district than in all of the other Naples districts combined
and as thejobs are scattered throughout the county, so should affordable housing be as
well. Mr. Patterson stated the result would be a transporation problem, worsened by
limited public transporation access. Park access is paramount to a community, so
providing park land elsewhere will present a problem for many in the local community.
Housing and park access should be balanced throughout the county to the extent possible,
and it is a matter of fairness that the local community not be burdened with more than its
fair share of the housing solution and less than its fair share of the park. Lastly, any
rumors that may be circulating are the result of the community not knowing about the
plans for the park.
2. Mr. Rod Greene: Mr. Greene lives in close proximity to Manatee Park and felt
that while the ULI Study may have determined Manatee Park to be an excellent place for
affordable housing, it is also an excellent place for a park, with many other properties
available throughout the county for consideration. Once the park is gone, it is gone
forever. A deed restriction should be considered for fear of losing control of the property
as the process continues. With the elementary and middle schools, homes, and rental
properties, an additional 700+ houses would significantly increase traffic congestion. Mr.
Greene expressed concern at the ULI dictating where in the county affordable housing
should be built and depriving communities of their park.
3 . Mr. Elliott Miller: Mr. Miller was chosen to represent 17 members of the Fiddlers
Creek community. Mr. Miller is Chairman of Fiddler's Creek Community Development,
District 2. Mr. Miller stated that neither himself, nor members of the Fidder's Creek
community are against affordable housing and likewise are in favor of parks. Mr. Miller
stated that any entity seeking to confiscate a park bears a substantial burden of proof and
that burden of proof had not been met. Mr. Miller clarified that the park has been on the
books for 45 years, since 1973. Funding was diverted from the park l0 years ago and
applied towards Eagle Lakes Park.
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With regard to the stakeholders committee, in June 2017, following a review of the
Manatee Park site, it was felt to be a fair site, with substantial restrictions and only a
medium impact on affordable housing. However, by December 2017, the site was
deemed an excellent site, with a high impact on affordable housing and had no
restrictions, yet with no change in "facts on the ground." (Mr. Miller pointed out that 1/3
of Manatee Park consists of wetlands). Mr. Miller stated that the stakeholders committee
consisted of individuals in the business of affordable housing, such as not-for-profit
developers, as well as Habitat for Humanity. Mr. Miller stated the real stakeholders are
the individuals living on Manatee Road and Roost Road, next to what they thought was a
park, yet no one living on Manatee Road or Roost Road were on the stakeholders
committee. Mr. Miller remarked upon the significant cars on the road which would
occur, as well as overcrowding of the local schools, which are already so crowded,
trailers are being used as classrooms. There has been no study of infrastructure, water and
sewer, education, traffic, public transit, leaving this to the developer. The developer will
be given 60 acres of land, with no impact fees assessed, and tasking the developer to
assign an expert to determine whether the project should move forward. Mr. Miller
stated it was premature to confiscate the park prior to any of these studies being done.
Mr. Miller recommended an alternative to affordable housing which is offered through
HUD; the HOME Investment Partnership Program. This program provides grants to
local organizations to buy affordable housing. Mr. Miller pointed out that there are over
1300 homes throughout the county for sale for less than $250K that may be purchased for
affordable housing. "Has this been tried? Have studies been done on this option? No. Do
they want to take peoples' parks away? Yes." Mr. Miller stated this was just not fair.
Mr. Bart Joseph Jackson: Mr. Jackson stated he is a resident living nearby to the park
and has been following the affordable housing issue for quite some time. Mr. Jackson
stated he had compiled a letter to the editor of the Naples Daily News in this regard and
read a portion of the draft. "Firemen, nurses, laborers cannot live in Naples because of
the lack of affordable housing. Really? Others suggest those in the know are pointing
their compass in the wrong direction. Lack of quality education provides another focus
of the problem. Families with children, regardless of employment, income or current
address find some Naples areas undesireable, regardless of affordability, based on one
important reason; schools. Have the experts considered that workers with school
children, who have made their own responsible, conscious, intelligent decision to remain
outside of Naples because of two primary observations? Observation number one; the
housing that is abundant and affordable in East Naples does not fu1fill the families
desired features and benefits. Observation number two; North Naples offers desireable
family benefits, however the current housing inventory costs outweigh the benefits, even
if one could get in at North Naples." Mr. Jackson expressed the reason many families did
not want to live in the available affordable housing in East Naples was due to the inferior
schools there, as well as not enough desireable features to encourage families to want to
live there. The health, welfare and education of children were viewed as paramount,
regardless of income, and were felt to be a right to uphold. Mr. Jackson expressed
concern that without the park and with local children being taught in trailers, that
progress had digressed back to the 1950s.
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Mr. Jackson next made the point that in his opinion, employers in Naples and locally,
placed little worth on employees, who were severely disrespected with respect to
compensation. A reconstructed compensation model was suggested to allow workers to
achieve a reasonable wage, whether through tax, subsidies, or a combination of factors.
In summary, Mr. Jackson expressed that the issue is not just about affordable housing,
but rather affordable housing that is desireable.
5. Mr. Dave Durrell: Mr. Durrell stated that he owns property across from Manatee
Park and has been looking forward to having the park for a long time, an emenity which
may have been factored in when people bought property nearby. Mr. Durell expressed
alarm that the park may be used for housing and wished for the park to remain as is, as
well as concern that the Board resolution referred to any county owned properties and
future park sites. There were proposed fields and recreational uses planned for Manatee
Park, which was heavily supported by the surrouding neighborhoods, and Mr. Durrell felt
that the proposed housing would be very negatively received. Mr. Durrell stated he
agreed with the previous speakers and concurred that the park should stay the way it is;
once park land is gone, it is gone forever. Mr. Durrell urged the PARAB to enter a
recommendation to retain the existing park site as a park, as well as all county parks.
Board/Staff Comments:
Mr. Giblin addressed several of the concerns that were raised by the public speakers.
1 . Why build housing in that portion of the county when most of the j obs, such as
Arthrex, are in the northem part of the county? An analysis revealed that 13,700 jobs are
located between the Government Center Complex at U.S. 4llAirport Road and the
Manatee site. 65yo of these jobs pay less than $45K per year.
2. Clarification: The ULI did not choose the Manatee Park site. The ULI made a
recommendation that the county review all of its lands; to look intemally to land already
owned to work towards solving the affordable housing problem. Through that review,
this site was decided upon. Focus is not solely on this site or this plan; this is one of 7
recommendations that are being considered simultaneously.
3. How did this property get moved up and down the list, with the "facts on the ground"
not changing? This site was ranked higher and lower on the list based on additional
research that was done. One reason it was initially ranked lower was due to a perception
that the site was significantly impacted by wetlands. Natural resources studies were
reviewed, as well as wetlands maps, with a finding that the wetlands impact was not as
high as initially thought. Mr. Giblin stated he drove the entire property over the preceding
weekend and did not encounter any wetland areas.
4. Regarding concern that there was no room at the schools nearby, the proposal is not
written to bring a high number of people to this section of town. The intent of this
housing is so that those already living there can move to something safe and affordable.
5. Mr. Giblin stated that co-location may actually bring the development of the park
higher in the development plans if there was a developer partner willing to do some of
that work for the county.
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Question (Mr. Smith): Clarification was requested regarding available grant funding
through the Housing and Grant Development division of the county.
Answer: Mr. Giblin stated his office issues several grants; the SHIP program, with
approximately $500K slated to be awarded this year, as well as various strategies to assist
families to buy or rent homes. Regarding the HOME program, Collier County has
reached a threshold where this funding no longer needs to be applied for on an individual
basis, now receving approximately $450K in funding from the Federal Govemment
yearly. There is an application cycle each year for the distribution of these funds.
Specific parameters govern Federal and State funding, with HOME funding geared
towards individuals on the very low end of the income spectrum.
Mr. Williams offered the historical perspective of Manatee Park in that approximately l0
years ago, Parks Staff identified a need for additional soccer fields in East Naples
Community Park, a need which still exists based on local population useage. Public
feedback at that time with regard to Manatee Community Park indicated a desire for the
park to serve the needs of the local communtiy, with a passive park preferred by the local
55+ age community, rather than an active recreational park.
Mr. Brougham reiterated that Manatee Park had been planned with significant feedback
and input from surrounding neighborhoods in support ofapassive park concept. Funding
strategies through 2009 were diffrcult, with Eagle Lakes Community Park partially
completed. A consenus was reached at that time by PARAB, as well as the residents
along Manatee Road, that given a choice between funding the development of Manatee
Community Park versus Eagle Lakes Community Park, the decision was made for the
completion of Eagle Lakes Park. Mr. Brougham stated the development of Manatee Park
has remained on the books, waiting for funding to move forward with that project.
Mr. Brougham stated county park land is a precious asset, which includes beaches, and
draws millions of tourists. Mr. Brougham recognizedthe need for housing, not just in
Collier County, but throughout the United States and stated this issue needs to be fully
studied and not become hyperfocused on one or two small areas.
Mr. Brougham entered a motion that the Parks ond Recreation Advisory Board reject
the use of any Collier County park landsfor uses other thanfor parks and recreational
use by Collier County citizens. Ms. Gibson-Laemel seconded the motion.
Chairman Olesky called for a discussion of the motion prior to final vote. Mr. Williams
clarified that the purpose of the presentation was to provide informational material and
discussion regarding the potential housing project at Manatee Park. While the motion
may move forward, neither approval nor disapproval was being sought for the purposes
of this meeting.
Question (Mr. Saletko): Has it been clarified yet as to how many acres would be
needed or used to build affordable housing at Manatee Park?
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Answer: Mr. Williams stated the BOCC is assessing the potential for county owned
properties to be used as sites for the development of affordable housing, with developers
being given an invitation to provide concepts for development for both park and housing
useage. The project remains a blank slate, with no proposals at the present time under
consideration.
Mr. Williams commended PARAB on their interest in keeping park lands intact, however
stated it may be premature to vote on the stated motion, given there are presently no plans
to review or consider prior to the vote. Mr. Williams suggested that the possibility exists
for future proposals to be presented to and vetted by PARAB.
Mr. Carnell expressed an understanding of PARAB's desire to grow Parks capacity to
keep up with the population; however, the county shares the same struggle to meet all
members of the community. Strategies for housing have evolved over the years. The
Manatee Park land was acquiredin 1973, with no other uses considered for the site at that
time. The concept of co-location may not have existed in 1973, but over the years the
housing industry and market have changed. The population in Collier County will
continue to grow, and planning and management continues to be of key importance.
With regard to concerns expressed at developers performing feasability studies and
analysis of the project rather than the county, Mr. Carnell stated that the developers
possess the best expertise to do so. Further, the two East Naples sites presently under
consideration for co-location are not the only properties being considered; for instance,
zonrngmodification may be done of private properties to allow for co-location of housing
and retail.
Mr. Carnell clarified that the Park is not going to be confiscated; a co-location is not a
confiscation, and empathized with the residents of Fiddler's Creek and the fear of the
unknown. While the concept has been heavily publicized in local media outlets, as well
as public meetings, any potential project has a very long way to go. Mr. Carnell
encouraged public engagement during the process. Likewise, Mr. Carnell encouraged
PARAB to request of the BOCC to remain engaged in the process and to review
information as it becomes available, as the final outcome may in fact be favorable for the
Parks Division.
Chairman Olesky stated it was premature, in his opinion, to actively vote on the issue at
this time and provided further history regarding Manatee Park, in that in the past,
residents were strongly against an active recreational facility, lights installation, etc. Mr.
Olesky expressed an interest in receiving more information on an ongoing basis prior to
issuing a final recommendation to the BOCC.
Ms. Gibson-Laemel expressed an appreciation for receiving the history of Manatee Park
and the additional information which had been provided at the meeting. While co-
location sounded like an interesting concept, Ms. Gibson-Laemel was uncertain as to
what power was held by PARAB in regard to this issue.
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Mr. Camell clarifred that PARAB members have the ability to express support,
disapproval, or recommendations for stipulations or changes, both now and throughout
the process.
Mr. Camell reiterated that coJocation is merely one of27 concepts under consideration
to address the affordable housing dilemma and stated one ofthe reasons county property
was suggested for use by the ULI was due to the cost ofland, which is part of the overall
affordability issue. Such a partnership between the county and the developer would create
a conhactual, legal and binding commitment from the developer to sell properties at a
particular price point in the marketplace.
Ms. Gibson-Laemel inquired as to whether a stipulation is being considered which would
require developers to include senior and affordable housing in their plans for new
housing developments. Mr. Camell stated this concept was called inclusionary zoning,
which has received some resistance from developers in the past. This concept will be
further discussed at the June 2018 BOCC meeting.
Mr. Wiliiams summarized by pointing out three options for PARAB to consider at the
present time; take a stand, moving forward with the present motion which had been
made, request that all information regarding the colocation concept be shared with
PARAB as it gets vetted through the process, or lastly, simply regard the meeting as
informational and make no decisions at the present time.
Mr. Brougham expressed an understanding ofthe advisory capacity ofPARAB to the
BOCC and shared a concem at the lack ofability to present a final decision by PARAB
to the BOCC for their consideration, or for PARAB to approve or disapprove ofa final
decision made with regard to Parks properties. Given sufficient planning and
conversations, Mr. Brougham stated the possibility existed for a win-win outcome;
however this remains uncertain based on the present lack of information. Further, as the
process continues, beginning with developer proposals, and more time and money
invested in the process, the more buy-in is realized into the process, becoming one-sided.
Mr. Brougham's concem was in the process moving forward, without any commitment
from any responsible party in the county that a reasonable compromise will be reached,
and that the decision should not be to choose the park or choose the county. In summary,
Mr. Brougham expressed a belief in sound planning and community involvement, and
encouraged Staff to allow PARAB full participation during this process.
Mr. Saletko recognized the need for affordable housing throughout the county and stated
that local residents ofany chosen location would likely express the same concems as had
already been shared at the meeting. Mr. Saletko reiterated that various options had been
discussed with regard to park modification, as well as land reimbursement elsewhere, and
was in favor of a recommendation to keep PARAB engaged in the ongoing process as it
pertains to park lands.
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Mr. Carnell requested the opportunity to formulate a plan of actionable items as to
how to update PARAB throughout the process and present this plan at the next
meeting.
Mr. Brougham withdrew his previous motion to reject the use of any Collier Counly
park lands for uses other than for parks and recreational use by Collier Coanty
citizens. Ms. Gibson-Laemel withdrew her second of the motion.
Mr. Brougham entered a motion that Staff present speciJic steps as to how the Parks
and Recreation Advisory Board may be best engaged and updated informationally
prior to any next steps being taken with regard to co-location of affordable housing on
Park land. Ms. Bills seconded the motion. All were infavor. The motion was curried,
Adjournment
There being no further business for the good of the County, the meeting was
adjourned by order of the Chair.
Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
These minutes approved by the Board/Committee on
presented, or as amended
as
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