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July 19, 1903
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th.t, follov1ng thlt pr...nt.t10n, h. .nt1c1pat.. that the BCC v111 b.
abl. to g1v. St.fl d1rect1on, 1l a final d.cl.1on 1. not r.ached.
Mr. Ruth .tlrted by tak1ng the BCC through the aa~. .tep. done by
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..l.ry .urvey.
He d1atr1buted a handout to the BCC contl1nlng .o.e of
the Infor~.tion he would pre.on~.
He gave . tran.par.ncy pre.entation
th.t co.p.red Colller County employeea' .alarle. in re.pect to .Il.rle.
In co~parable countle., citio. and the private .ector.
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hi. dep.rtment looked at the 1982 florlda prlce Indftx Charge to the
ConlUlller .nd dilcovered that Collier County 11 the 5th IIOlt expen.ive
county in which to 11ve In Florld..
de.cribed the .re.. to be .urveyed.
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over.ll categorle. comp.rlng Colllor County ..l.rle. on co.parable
Re.ponding to Co.~ll.loner Vo..,
prole..ion.l .nd technic.l level..
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co.p.red to priv.te .ector ellploy.e. .uch .. 'lr.t M.pla. B.nk,
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co..unlty Ho.plt.l, .nd N.ple. 'eder.l s.ving. .nd L4.n. He referred
to the thlrd p.ge of t.he h.ndout. whlch t.rgeted 71 bench..rk po.ltlon.
vithin the County .nd compared tho. t.o the 14 Counties e.rli., noted.
be ..id one column 1. . .al.ry .ver.ge of .11 14 .nd th.t the .econd
colu.n 1. the South Florid. .ver.ge In co~paf.ble ..l.ry Iver.g... Ke
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Øo ..id th.t the third colu.n i. Coll1o, County'. ..l.,y and,
. 10c.l p.r.p.ctiv., . column i. add.d r. tho Clty of M.pl..,
'ob.. KG ..ld th.t t.ho 1..t column 1.
p.fc~ntag. of Colli., County to tho South Florid' Iv.rag. which, in
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d.plf~nt'. opinion, i. 1n tha -b.llp.rk- wlth tho.. four
K. di.tribut.d the ch.,t to the Co..I..ion.r..
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County I. low.r In approxi.at.ly 21 po.ition. by .ora than 5\ for .ny
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fOaitìon. that ahould be co.p.red. H. .ald that Mr. c.orge Cody or191-
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n~liy i.ple..nt.d the Collier County plan in 1979. K. ..ld Mr. Cody 1.
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'" 1n .ff.ct før'l..t y.ar. H. ..id hi. dapart.ant want. Mr. CodY to look
at the t.fget.d po.itlon. vhlch .f. under the South rlorld. averlg. .nd
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to Id.ntify tho.e po.ltlon. that .hould hove clo.or r.vlew for focll.-
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that th.r. 1. .n Irtiflclll, infl.tionary foetor becau.e when
co.pAri.on. .r. .,de yelr .ft.r y.'f. looking .t av.r.ge., the a.ount
.tart.. -bUUdin9 up-. tI. .oid t.hl. in!orlllat10n can only ba r.vLlwd ..
on. flctor vhen the Dee i. looking at merit plan. .nd pay incr.,.···
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infof.ation, to co.par. all po.itlons In florida .nd .xplaln tho..
Colli.r County po.ltion. that are -t.ruly out of lin.-, fro~ the Collier
County .UfV.Y. Re.pondln') to Chalrman Kru... CO.llli..ionur Kolland .aid
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Mr. Ruth ..pl.lnad thlt, in .om. of the prof...ional l.vel po.i-
tion.. thl tUfnover rocord h.. b..n reduced from 40\. two ye.'. IgO, to .
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18' to 20', curfently. H. .ald thlt ~o.t of th.t 1. duo to the
functLon of the .conomy. H. ..1d 1t 1. now eð,l.r to attract and
r.tlln c.ndldat.., at t.he pros.nt tlm., ln thls l.vol. ke .ald that a
'numb.f of prof.o.lonal are. cat.90r1'. .hould b. rev1.wed for salary
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Kr. Ruth expl.lned the Oecret.rlal/Cloric.l .tudy trln.p.r.ncy
co~p.rlng the 10 c.t.~orle., Roapondlng to Com~l..ion.r Vo.., h.
.xpl.lned thlt .0.. of thl. lnformatlon 1. not contaln.d ln the BCC
h.ndout. H. .ald the dlacov.ry wal made that Col11.r County is clo.er,
at the lover l.vel' of cl.rical poaltlon. than the Count.y 1. in .ony of
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County 1., at lea.t, compotlt1v..
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thlt 2' va. the .erit lncr....' .nd t.h.t thare wa. · tot.l of 6.9'
averlg. ..l.ry lncr..... for ll.t yair.
Mf. Rut.h rof.rr.d to thl. y.ar'. propo.al .nd .aid t.here 1. a
,t,.n~ _ tha Cener.l ~'9. Adju.tm.nt ¡. ~rw~~lng do,,". and the ..rit
incr.... .ide i. Incr...ing. H. .aid this fe.ult. In Collier County
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c.plrt..nt hi. be.n .ovln<) the p,y plan upward to achlevo ~n lncr....
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,', in .al.ry .nd t.hat r.sult. in Ittucttn9 p.ople .t .ntry level s.llry.
,~ Hov.vef, h. ..1d, thl. c.u.e. people to'freeze at. .n .arly .tag. in
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.nd noted t.h.t t.herl are ..ny ..ployee. who .fO .tl11 .t 1 through ~
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~J: Mr. Ruth .xplllned th.t la.t y.af hl. d.partmont put ln · nev
p.rfo,..nce, cradlo ayat.. vhlch forced' botter dl.trlbutlon. Ho
co.pared thl. wlth . for..r .y.te~. H. aald the dlacovery w.. ..de
that t.her. Ir. .any good people worklng for Colllar county, that the
County ~. in . b.tt.r po.ltlon of rocOØlm.mJ1n<, IUHlt lno::r.....' ba..d
on .ct.ual p.rfor..nce, than In the p..t. Ho referred tn "r. Cody'.
bl-lnnull revl.w and .aLd t.hat, ln Mr. Cody'. oplnloll, the County'. pay
plan i. aolld, ln that the 30Þ. Ire rea.onably cl..alfled. Mr. Ruth
.,1d th.t there .ay ba a !.w 1.o1atoO P08ltLon. that n..d to b.
r.-.valuated. Ho .ald, over.ll, Sta!! recomm.nd. t.hot the p,y pl.n
ahould at.y vh.r. lt la and that poopl. .hould b. lIovod along In the
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of rlting. two yeora .qo compared tu lalt year.
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-bel1-.hap.d curv.- in pl.c., currontly. ne uferrad to tlthibit -I- (1)
.nd -K- (2), wi th toCUd to the pay incr..... on the anniveraary diU of
hi,. fOf the e~ploy.e. He not.d t.hat pago li.tS thl advantag.. and
~l.advantlg.. of thl. plan. H. .ald that the p.r.onn.l Dep.rt.ment
would like to bwllov. that this plan recognize. the .~ploye. havlng
r..ch.d . ~11..ton., a. h.' ~ov.. along In hl. caro.r, that the ..ploy..
ahould b. reword.d at. that. point, rather th.n have the hlgh.r plyroll
apPf.l..d. H. ..id thlt thl. plan vould .ave ~on.y, at the .a.. tia..
H. .U99..t.d this 1. . topic fOf BCC dl.cu..lon.
A lengthy dl.cu..lon follow.d. Comml..lonef vo.. ..id, in hi.
oplnlon, on. proble. of havlng .v.ry employ.. recelve · p'Y f.l.. on
the .a.. day 1. the t.ndency of .mploy... co~parlng rai....
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Co.mi..lon.r pl.tor .ald, ln hl. opinlon, he wa. not. in f.vor of
".ñ .nniv.f..ry d.u ral... H. .ald thl. type of .y.te. VI. u..d · fev .'. ,;.
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;.r ye.ra Igo, th.t puctlcallY .v.ryone rec.iveeS .n incr.... on
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1. .t a polnt where . ~.rlt incr.... 1. In l.port.nt con.ld.f.-
He .,ld th.t giv.. oth.r ..ploye.. In Incentiv. to do · good
H. .xplalned why h. 1. not ln favor of . cl.h bonus of $100,
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M'. Moraan r.ferr.d to St.ff r.vl.wlng the .ntir. cll..iflc.tion
, pay pl.n for .aploy.o. three y..r. .go, It vhich tl.. &t.ff point.d out
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..l.ry. H. a.id t.h.t the difflculty vith the curf.nt.
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in.t1gated. He ..id, in hl. opinion, It i. impo'tant to continue
plan .tlrt.ð l..t. ye.f, whlch ~aa to Incofpor.te · portion of the
ad,u.teent into .ovlng people' .top withln th.lr P'Y p.rlod.
Co..la.ionef Pi.tor agreed with ~r. Hor~an'. point of ·,d,u.tin9
9f.d.. Ko~ever, he .ald that., in hi. oplnlon, a
be 9iven tho.o e~ployeea who .r. 91vin9 better than
~V~~lge'.ffoft, to .dd inc.ntive. Mr. Ruth reiterated that Coll1er
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~: ~ented ,e C~~ller County havlng t.he ~th hlghe.t co.t of llvlng refer.
to the St.te ol Florida. He said th.t the flguro raferflng to ·
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county .nd the n~ber of e.plo~.e. .re ll1portant to the 1..ue .nd
Co..l..10ner Holland ..1d thlt, In his oplnlon, the .1te of the
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clnnot be co~plred e..lly ~lth count Ie. of dlfferont alte. .nd nuaber.
of e~ploy.e.. He roferr.d to tho lIoral. .1tultlon whlch aay .ri.. .nd
gave hl. vlews. He sald that, In hls oplnlon, tho öCC should not t.ke
into conslder.tlon tho 3\ or 3.7\ fIgure, ~hon tho actual coat of
11vlng h..n't Increased .. ~uch as It ha. In Colller County. ~r.
Moraan .xplalned that Collier County'. relatlvu pO.1tlon In the St.te
1. e.t.bll.had by . survey of a ~t.tc a90ncy th.t each ye.r t..ke. a
..rket b..ket exp~n8. check for varlouD ltdm» and d.termine. the
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rel.tive po.1tlon has not re.lly changed .ubstantlblly.
Co..l.alonar vo.. .aid that the Bee dapend. upon the local I14rket
for their e.ploye.a and that, in hl. opinlon, t.h.~ lIar~et i. Ithere the
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ICC should co~p.re .alari... "e sald he was not too concerned .bout
what other countle. p~y .xcept In the case. of t.chnlcal peopl., for
In.tlnce. He .ald he wa. not in favor of . co.t ol llving rai.e.
Ch.if.,n Kru.e polnted out the co~parl.on between Collilr County and'
the City of N.ple. pay r.nge.. Re.pondln9 to Com~1..1oner Vo.., "r.
Ruth .aid th.t, regafding the av.ra9' .ocr.tary .,l.ry, the Collier
Count.y .alley i. below the lower, .tralght .alary a. co~p.rod to the
Clty of N.pl.. and the .... po.ltion.
Co..i..loner vo.. a.ked If frlnge. are includ.d, to which Mr.
re.ponded n.g.tively.
gre.t fringe. .nd Comal..1oner. Holland and Kru., a9r.ed. Mf. Ruth
..id colli.r County 9lv.. better thin the .verage frlnge.. Co~.l.-
.~ .10ne' Holland point.d out that the Naple. Com.unlty Ho.pital i.
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fi. vorking under a completely
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vould b. t.o lnv..t19.te larg.r prlvat. conc.rna in the Naple.
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.xplained th.t .o.t of th.t rellte. to t.dlou. job.. Hr. Ruth
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in ,.co_.nded S\? Mr. Ruth .,ld he dld not. know, however, Mr. Cody h..",'
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'lI:""ua.,' ;~a.~,~, ths. tho Cona....do.al 0"'.... oa.a .p a.o.t .., o' 'ha::~t
:\County ..ploy.... Rupond1n9 to Cbal,..n !tru", Deputy Chief Barn.tt ,O;,.p,
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~~pllined th.t the ShOflef'. Dept. normally .tay. vith tho County pay
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How.v.r, h. ..id that the .ecfetlrial pay 1. tied Into the
lighw.y Pltrol cla..if1clt1on ..x1~U. .nd .1n1.u. p,y rln9" Øe ..1d
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, that Ih.r1fl Roger. would h.v, to explain the .ntire p.y pl.n.
{\': "Clerk Reag.n .aid thlt hi. office is .t.lyin9 wlth the 5' rang..
. ~. .aid th.t h.t year hi a oUlce .topped 91v1n9 I coat of l1vln9
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."oIaa:.;,~~ ...ploln~' hi 0 poll.y and tho tYpo o' a.'" nUa In.......d
~..Vit.h ~~~ plln. R..pondlng to Co..l..lon.r Holl.nd, "r. Re'9,n .aid
,~ th.t hl. offic. a.l.rie. If' I little under the 8Ce'., how.ver, the
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'one ..ploy..-th.t did not 9.t any ..clt ral.e could .nothe' ..ploye.
Co..l..loner Holland leked Mr. Reagin if he h..
conceivably r.c.iv. . 10\ rll.e, t.o which ~r. R.a9.n re.ponded
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,~,':" R..pond1n9 to Chalrun !tru.e, Cuy Clrlton, T.X Collector,
~i. .xplaln.d that he h.d the Cody .....ocl.t.. revlew hl. altuatlon .nd they
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.re, In hi. oplnlon, the b..t in the State. He ..ld thGY co.e in .v.ry
other yelr .nd that hl. dep.rt..nt l. usln9 thelr guldelln.. ond ..rit
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pay ba..d on .valuatlon. He .ald there wlll b. .0.0 Acro.. the bo.rd
3\ or 4\ .nd .0.. 3\ .nd ..erit. HI .ald .0.. .mployeo. .ay not rec.lve
.erit pay. .'
CO.llll0.Lon.r VO.. .old thlt, In hll11 oVlnlon; mlllrlt pay i. the w,y
the BCC .hould 90, becau.. e.ploye.. are not all e4ua1. He agr.ed vith
.". Rut' that the p.y plan .hould re.aln a. curcuntly .tructured, .ince
th.r. i. plenty of fOOD to lIIove wlthln tho.e 9rod... II. .,id, in hi.
oplnion, to .ovo w1thln tho.' p,y grade. on tho b..la,of ..rit,
productivity will be i_Vroved. He polnt.d out the other flctor. to
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