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Agenda 03/13/2012 Item # 6B3/13/2012 Item 6. B. Office of the County Manager Hwy Leo E. Ochs, Jr. 3299 Tamiami Trail East, Suite 202 • Naples Florida 34112 -5746 • (239) 252 -8383 FAX: (239) 252 -4010 February 29, 2012 Mr. John Lundin 605 Nassau Street #4 Immokalee FL 34142 Re: Public Petition request from John Lundin regarding red light cameras. Dear Mr. Lundin, Please be advised that you are scheduled to appear before the Collier County Board of Commissioners at the meeting of March 13, 2012, regarding the above referenced subject. Your petition to the Board of County Commissioners will be limited to ten minutes. Please be advised that the Board will take no action on your petition at this meeting. However, your petition may be placed on a future agenda for consideration at the Board's discretion. If the subject matter is currently under litigation or is an on -going Code Enforcement case, the Board will hear the item but will not discuss the item after it has been presented. Therefore, your petition to the Board should be to advise them of your concern and the need for action by the Board at a future meeting. The meeting will begin at 9:00 a.m. in the Board's Chambers on the Third Floor of the W. Harmon Turner Building (Building "F ") of the government complex. Please arrange to be present at this meeting and to respond to inquiries by Board members. If you require any further information or assistance, please do not hesitate to contact this office. Sin �. Mike Sheffield Business Operations Manager MJS:mjb cc: Jeffrey Klatzkow, County Attorney Norman Feder, Growth Management Administrator Nick Casalanguida, Growth Management Deputy Administrator Packet Page -134- 3/13/2012 Item 6. B. Request to Sneak under Public Peftbon Please print Name: John Lundin Address: 605 Nassau St., #4 Immokalee, Florida 34142 Phone: 407-920 -2422 Date of the Board Meeting You wish to speak: March 13, 2012 . Must circle yes or no: Is this subject matter under litigation at this time? Yes N Is this subject matteran ongoing Code Enforcement case? Yes A& Note: If either answer is "yes ", the Board will hear the item but will have no discussion regarding the item after It is presented. Please explain in detail the reason you are requesting to speak Latta -c additional To request that the Collier County, Florida Board of County Commissioners, put on the November 6, 2012 Ballot, a "Binding" Referendum for or against Red Li ht Traffic Cameras. Please explain in detail the action you are asking the Commission to take (attach. On February 28, 2012, at the Board of Coun Commissioners meeting, during the Red Light Traffic Camera Agenda Item, Commissioner Jim Coletta stated that if the citizens obiected to the Red Light Traffic Cameras, he would put a Referendum on the Ballot to let the voters decide the issue. ATTACHED are over 60 Naples Daily News comments Cameras Packet Page -135 - Hlmary -Jo /Public Petition Reauest Form - 2008 new form.doc 3/13/2012 Item 6. B. http: / /www.napiesnews.com /news /2012 /feb /28 /commissioner s- approve- red - light- cameras - next - decad/ #comments Reeed -Robin writes: Police State is winning here folks. Wake up! Coletta is an error! BUBO writes: Coletta + pay off = Yes vote angrytxpyr writes: Non - binding "Straw Ballot" just like fire district consolidation and just like they refused to do with Jackson Labs. At some point in time voters will get it and there will be no need for the ANGRY TAXPAYER, you get the hint there. Oh and a few questions: Does ENFD rent office space over on US 41 South just south of Rattlesnake Hammock Rd or do they own and rent extra space to tenants? Who's the landlord and who are the tenants? fritobandito writes: You can thank all of the morons who vote all these money -hungry Republicans into office. musketfire writes: We should all get together and stage a sit -in !!! It worked in the 70's we can do it now !!! This is just plain crap and our freedom is being taken away one by one !! Colleta..go and stuff your head right up your A -- !! angrytxpyr writes: Its not that they're "money hungry" its just that they have spent all of the regular TAX revenue to a point that the regular revenue cannot even make the payments on the debt which I believe is just under a Billion dollars. Shameful as the total budget amount is right around the same amount. They have no extra revenue to pay for vote buying projects so everything is financed and well financing is getting a little tough for everyone even Collier County. Its going to come down to a GGFD & ENFD scenario pretty soon where there just is NO MORE MONEY and then you will see some RATS abandon the Packet Page -136- 3/13/2012 Item 6. B. sinking ship. Vote out the incumbents and demand fiscal restraint and lower construction permit fees/TAXES, support your local businesses. watermark writes: You lost my VOTE, "for the people" pretty soon on every corner, socialism swfl ff writes: in response to MIMI: Coletta + pay off = Yes vote I am beginning to wonder myself. Just last week big Jim was talking like he wanted to get rid of the cameras. I guess something must have come along to change his mind. Col Sanders must have pulled no clue Colletta aside and told him to get back in line and vote the proper way. I hope you good folks east of CR 951 get rid of that clown this coming election. mission — accomplished writes: never trust a republican© HenryW writes: The cameras (indirectly) block emergency vehicles - because cars stopped at a camera hesitate to get out of the way! Other side effects: Rearenders, local $$$ sent to Oz, AZ or Goldman- Sachs, where it won't come back, and tourists and shoppers driven away. Worse, a false expectation of safety, because cameras can't stop the guys who cause the accidents, the real late runners. (If cameras worked, camera sellers wouldn't have the crash videos they supply to the media.) Want safety, no side effects? To cut car /pedestrian accidents, train your kids (and yourself) not to step out just'cuz the walk sign came on. To cut nuisance running (a fraction of a second late), lengthen the yellows. It's cheap to do so can be done all over town. The reason the dangerous real late (multiple seconds) runs can't be stopped by the mere presence of a camera is because the runner won't know (a tourist) or won't remember (a distracted or impaired "local ") that there's a camera up ahead. They're not doing it on purpose! To cut these real late runs, improve the visual cues that say, "Intersection ahead." Florida's DOT Packet Page -137- 3/13/2012 Item 6. B. found that better pavement markings (paint!) cut running by up to 74 %. Make the signal lights bigger, add backboards, and put the poles on the NEAR side of the corner. Put brighter bulbs in the street lights at intersections. Put up lighted name signs for the cross streets. Who needs cameras and their side effects? Nongeriatric_Redux writes: Another example of just how out of touch our clueless commissioners are. dmarko326 writes: It's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Not about safety! Even Colleta was convinced that there are no stats showing the safety of the thing as a ROI for the investment. dmarko326 writes: Even Rambosk is in on it! Quote above says w/o cameras 4 officers would additional four or five traffic officers at a cost of $100,000 each. HOLY CRAP! $100K for a traffic cop —! And What About the Officers who have to fuddle with the video p[layback back at Headquarters. Betcha the pulled some of the most senior officers for that duty that were already making way too much! lol! ---------- Reeed -Robin writes: Ms Albers, You are showing true UNINFORMED colors, hun. I wonder if you get paid on the side to write the stories you do? Do you have a vacation home in Oregon? kappal997 writes: The roads are more dangerous with the cameras, motorists are slamming their brakes on at intersections creating multi car pile ups so they dont get a ticket. Over 100 separate incidents since inception. Packet Page -138- 3/13/2012 Item 6. B. Vote them out! profiler writes: nazi amerika. Our freedoms won't be won back until people are willing to take up arms against this gestapo totalitarian nazi police state. When gestapo agents get shot in the forhead and the bigger criminals are hung by the neck amerika may one day be free again. Until that time ... take care comrad! profiler writes: And PLEASE DO NOT VOTE! DONT ENCOURAGE THE CROOKS! WHEN YOU SEE ANY CRIME COMMITTED AGAINST ANY NAZI AGENT OR THEIR FAMILY DO NOT HELP THEM! IF YOU EVER GET THE CHANCE TO SCREW OVER ANY SCUM POLITICIAN OR GESTAPO AGENT OR THEIR FAMILY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION. AMERIKA USED TO BE WORTH SOMETHING. NOW IT IS A WORTHLESS TOTALITARIAN NAZI POLICE STATE. DO NOT VOTE. NEVER NEVER NEVER HELP NAZI AMERIKA. LET AMERIKA DIE. TheyPavedParadise2 writes: in response to swfl_ff: I am beginning to wonder myself. Just last week big Jim was talking like he wanted to get rid of the cameras. I guess something must have come along to change his mind. Col Sanders must have pulled no clue Colletta aside and told him to get back in line and vote the proper way. I hope you good folks east of CR 951 get rid of that clown this coming election. This sealed the deal. Someone please look and see if there is a contribution to Coletta's campaign from the camera people privateroad writes: next it will be drones meex writes: Packet Page -139- 3/13/2012 Item 6. B. Get rid of the 3 "C"s: Cameras, Coyle & Coletta!! slogoodland writes: Invasion of privacy—we will be like London pretty soon camera's every were on the sidewalks,back streets you watch! profiler writes: in response to privateroad: next it will be drones The totalitarian nazi police state IS using drones to spy on citizens. Many "law enforcement" agencies have them. It is rather sad people don't see the police for what they truly are: goose stepping jack booted thugs willing to shoot you in the back of the head if they thought they could get away with it. Remember we already have one thug..johnny "the planter" cisneros planting dope on people for collier county sheriff department. We also had two people disappear that were last seen with collier county sheriff department. Go ahead and tell your-yes-they are the good guys LOL!We have our local sheriff-who took an oath... protecting the scrote that is planting dope on people in collier county and then "finding" it. If you want to find out WHO is your greatest threat to freedom...simply look in washington or tallahassee. Simply look at the gestapo police stations on every corner. Did you know they are using drones in Ft Lauderdale to spy on people? Go ahead and tell me how much you love THIS country for your freedoms! I will call you either a liar..or a fool to your face. sig heil comrad... If you have private land and the gestapo police are flying drones over YOUR land can you shoot them down? Just wondering... Z07 writes: I read that in some southwestern states they shortened the duration of the yellow just a tick in order to get more revenue after installing the cameras. A judge ruled against them and they had to refund a bunch of money. I also read in this rag that a local person was timing the yellow duration and found that to be the case here. It's all about the money. It won't save one life. It may even cause more rearender type accidents. Packet Page -140- 3/13/2012 Item 6.13. wolfpackisback writes: hey commissioners news flash start looking for a job in the words of donald trump YOUR FIRED John Wesley_Hardin writes: I am all for anything that aggravates the hell out of you left wing liberals. Please put up stop sign cameras and speeding cameras! wolfpackisback writes: in response to meex: Get rid of the 3 "C "'s: Cameras, Coyle & Coletta!! i like the way u think meex jbm9 writes: rambosk,get your croonies out of gina's. theres 5 right there. Bramble writes: The cameras prevent NOTHING. They only take a picture of car AFTER it has moved through the intersection. Red light runners are not paying attention, are in a hurry or just don't care. A civil cite with no points on record is not going to change much driver behavior in that regard. joeblow writes: Crooks. Sanity writes: 100K per traffic officer? WTF that is insane! Even with benefits that is way to high. wolfpackisback writes: Packet Page -141- 3/13/2012 Item 6.B. i recomend go on the internet and u can buy a licence plate cover that blures your plate when the camera goes off i hear it works great serpico writes: Rambosk stated we would need 4 -5 traffic deputies at 100,000 each If that were true how many traffic deputies does the sheriffs office have watching the other 300+ interesections? Man have the tax payers been dooped. I want to work there I will sit and watch an intersection for 100 grand. I call BS GeeRide writes: in response to serpico: Rambosk stated we would need 4 -5 traffic deputies at 100,000 each. If that were true how many traffic deputies does the sheriffs office have watching the other 300+ interesections? Man have the tax payers been dooped. I want to work there I will sit and watch an intersection for 100 grand. I call BS That figure includes the cost of the patrol car, the equipment in it, salary, insurance and retirement. PlumSmuggler writes: Hey Jim, If you wanna err on my "health safety & welfare" then stop wiping your ascot w/ the constitution! serpico writes: in response to GeeRide: That figure includes the cost of the patrol car, the equipment in it, salary, insurance and retirement. you missed the point genius 4 -5 deputies for 19 intersections. Deputy please justify your BS somewhere else. John Galt writes: Want to get rid of red light cameras? Packet Page -142- 3/13/2012 Item 6.B. Me too. Vote for Peter Richter - he's running for state rep. He could help ban them for the whole state! http: / /www.electRichter.com vinnybombotz writes: I will remove the red light cameras. Using taxpayers money to settle a lawsuit, saying there was no taxpayer money, that it came from the violators. Well the violators are local taxpayers as far as I can determine. You don't drive from Tampa to Naples to get a red light camera ticket. The violators are hard working citizens of this community, that get duped by the local government, using taxpayer money, to stick it to the taxpayers. TAXATION BY CITATION As long as there is a 30 day clause in the contract, it works for me. They still have that to deal with me. Comments? iemonjello writes: STOP at Red Lights! Come to a COMPLETE STOP! How hard is that? Geez..... wonderful writes: in response to meex: Get rid of the 3 "C "'s: Cameras, Coyle & Coletta!! Couldn't agree more! They were going to pave our roads, too? I smell chicken and donuts, eh? Bottom line is cameras wouldn't be needed if folks just followed the rules, eh? And if they don't, then first time the license and each time after that the vehicle. Prob solved! and there is always the retention /holding area out in the Everglades for the hard of learning. No mo GITMO! jbm9 writes: Packet Page -143- 3/13/2012 Item 6. B. in response to GeeRide: That figure includes the cost of the patrol car, the equipment in it, salary, insurance and retirement. thats the cost of b.s. and all the idiots that believe him when he speaks. Klaatu writes: Republicans making Government more intrusive in your lives!!! Ohh how they lie!!!! ex151 b #232440 writes: in response to swfl ff: I am beginning to wonder myself. Just last week big Jim was talking like he wanted to get rid of the cameras. I guess something must have come along to change his mind. Col Sanders must have pulled no clue Colletta aside and told him to get back in line and vote the proper way. I hope you good folks east of CR 951 get rid of that clown this coming election. Sure thing - Colletta is something! The best was Jackson Labs and the superhighway to Ava Maria! He must go! John Wesley_Hardin writes: in response to Klaatu: Republicans making Government more intrusive in your lives !!! Ohh how they lie!!!! vinnybombotz writes: in response to paul_vincent zecchino: Weren't Snitch -Kamz a scheme devised by 90s regimeniks to punish drivers, part citizens from their money and use it to fund more 'public- private partnership' mischief? Didn't the regimeniks also craft Snitch -Kams to deny citizens their right to confront Packet Page -144- 3/13/2012 Item 6.13. their accusers? To increase the number of red -light violators, didn't the public sector cronies of Snitch -Kam companies shorten yellow lights to entrap innocent drivers? Even during the late 90s, didn't the yellow -light gag increase rear -end collisions to the point where insurance companies condemned Snitch -Kamz? Oh, but the money must be so good, eh? Otherwise, why would public servants who could win the respect and gratitude of citizens by scuttling these video - bandits instead champion them? Great Post... SERVE & PROTECT NOT HARASS & COLLECT paul_vincent zecchino writes: Kudos, congratulations, and gratitude to Commissioners Henning and Hiller for taking a brave stand in defense of Liberty and our Bill of Rights and for speaking truth to power. The sub rosa pressures and other undue influence being brought to bear by those seek to inflict this scheme surely are not trifling. Who cannot be grateful to them for their courage? Paul Vincent Zecchino Manasota Key, Florida profiler writes: It is obvious who the jack booted self serving "public servents" are in these posts. We all know why people go into law enforcement. They want the power. They want a free retirement off of other peoples work. They are here to protect and serve THEIR OWN INTERESTS. Watch how they get free coffee, etc in the convenience stores! As trivial as that might seem...it is still using their badge for personal gain. In reality it is nothing but a bribe. These people don't deserve any respect for their self serving antics. They all want to tell you how brave they are and how they are here to serve and protect. Next time you hear that lie ... ask them how much they pay into their retirement... and how much the public pays. If they actually tell you the truth ... that will be a surprise. In the event they do ... ask them if they are doing their "job" to benefit THEMSELVES! Free retirement. Health care. Law enforcement discounts. CROOKS WITH BADGES! CROOKS USING A BADGE TO FURTHER THEIR PERSONAL INTERESTS. Everything else..is just a LIE Packet Page -145- 3/13/2012 Item 6.13. volochine writes: ATS has a winning exit strategy. For a bunch of rich people, you have a lot of dumb people running your county. Use some retired WalMart/Target buyers. They will always get the best deal. TiredoftheBS writes: Woohoo, yes! BigOrangeKitty writes: Another typical 3 -2 vote. Can we pleeeease get rid of Fiala and Coletta in this year's election? Klaatu writes: in response to John_wesley_Hardin: I am all for anything that aggravates the hell out of you left wing liberals. Please put up stop sign cameras and speeding cameras. HILLBILLY writes: in response to angrytxpyr: Its not that they're "money hungry" its just that they have spent all of the regular TAX revenue to a point that the regular revenue cannot even make the payments on the debt which I believe is just under a Billion dollars. Shameful as the total budget amount is right around the same amount. They have no extra revenue to pay for vote buying projects so everything is financed and well financing is getting a little tough for everyone even Collier County. Its going to come down to a GGFD & ENFD scenario pretty soon where there just is NO MORE MONEY and then you will see some RATS abandon the sinking ship. Vote out the incumbents and demand fiscal restraint and lower construction permit fees/TAXES, support your local businesses. Packet Page -146- 3/13/2012 Item 6.13. COLLIER COUNTY Board of County Commissioners Item Number: 6.13. Item Summary: Public Petition request from John Lundin regarding red light cameras. Meeting Date: 3/13/2012 Prepared By Name: BrockMaryJo Title: Executive Secretary to County Manager, CMO 3/1/2012 8:49:37 AM Submitted by Title: Executive Secretary to County Manager, CMO Name: BrockMaryJo 3/l/2012 8:49:38 AM Approved By Name: OchsLeo Title: County Manager Date: 3/2/2012 10:44:27 AM Packet Page -147-