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LIT IT 81 RIMEM8IRID, that the Boar~ of County COlllli..lone,... in ,~;.~...> .;:, ",
" . .n~ for the County of Collier, and aho actintj at the 8oar~ of ZOnin, "~1;t"~ '"
App.al. an~ a. the governintj boar~(.) of .uch .pecial ~i.trlct. .. ha..';~:1r.¡
b.en created accordintj to law and havintj conducted busin... henin, lIet::· ..I:~
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on this date at 9100 A.M. in a.,ahr S..81on in Building -,- of the .;"
Courthou.e Complex, East Napl.., Florida, with the following m.llber.
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CHAIRMANI Frederick J. vo..
VICE-CHAIRMAN I John A. pi.tor
Max A. Ha..e
C. C. -Red- Holland
Anne Goodnight
ALSO PRESENT I Jame. C. Gile., Fi.cal Officer, Maureen Kenyon,
Deputy Clerk, Donald B. Lusk, County Manðqer; Neil Dorrill, As.i.tant
County Manaqer, Burt Saunder., County Attorney, Tom Kuck, Public Work.
Ad.ini.trator, Thoma. Crandall, Utilitie. Director, Vickie Mullins,
Community Development Adminletrator, David pettrow, Planning and zonintj
Director, Ann McKim, Planner, Nancy I.raelson, Admini.trative AAsistant
to the Board, and Ray Barnett, Deputy Chief, Sheriff'a Depart.ent.
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~l..lon.r ,I.tor aov.d~ ..conded by Co..I..lon.r ..... and
carried anaalaou.ly, that the a,.nda be appro.ed a. a.ended.
a. Item 10B(2) Recommendation to obtain law firm of
Hopping, Boyd, Green and Sams and Scott Spiewak for Resourc..
Recove ry - Added by County Manllq8 r.
b. Item 10B(3) Recommendation to approve a budqet amendment
for the Solid Waste Department Enterprise Account - Added by
County MIInaqer.
c. Item lODel) Recommendation to set public hearinq for
August 27, 1985, re purchase of Lely Sewaqe Plant - Added by
County Manaq8r.
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MINUTIS or SPICIAL MIITING 7/26/85 , REGULAR MIITING 7/30/85 - APPROVID
Co..i..ion.r Goodnigbt .oved, .econded by r4..i..ioner ,Piator aad
carried unani.oualy, that the .inute. of the apecial ...tlnt of July
26. 1915, be approved.
Co..i..ioaer Pi.tør .oved, .econded by Co..i..ioner B.... and
c.rrl.d unan~u.ly, that the .inute. of the re,ul.r ..etlntj of July
30, ltlS, be appro.ed.
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OUIJlAllCI 15-43 RI PET I '1'1 OM R-85-6C, GIORGI L. VAJUIAI)()I, RIPRUIII'I'IIIG
ROOIR aUDIIY, RIQUU'I'U'G RnONING rRON A-2 TO C-4 011 '1'81 SOU'l'BIAST
CORNIR or u.s. 41 AND S.R. 95l - ADOPTID SUBJECT TO STIPULATIONS
Legal notice havinq been published in the Naples Daily News on
July 5, 1985, as evidenced by Affidavit of Publication filed with the
Clerk, public hearing was opened to consider Petition R-85-6C, filed by
George L. Varnadoe, repre.enting Roger Budny, requesting rez~ning from
A-2 to C-4 for II convenience store and fast food restaurant for
property located on the southeÐst corner of U.S. 4l and S.R. 951 in
Section 3, Township 51 South, Ranq8 26 East.
Mr. Dave Pettrow, Zoning/Planninq Director, .tated that this is
for a l.7 acre aite and to the north and east the land is currently
zoned A-2 and t~ the south, it i. zoned for II mobile home park which i.
undeveloped, and to the west there is II convenience store and gas
.tation zoned C-4. He said that there are .tipulations listed in the
Executive Summary dated August l3, 1985, noting that Stipulation 1(2)
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va. ð.l.t.d. H. atat.d that there will b. two .Cce.. point. on U.S. 41
and th.t CAPC and St.ff r.commend approval with the .tipulation..
Public WOrks Admini.trator Kuck stated, with ref.rence to
Stipulation -J-, it has b.en r.vis.d to read as follow.1 -The d.veloper
ahall don.t. 17 fe.t of additional right-of-way alonq the .a.t .id. of
S.R. 951. An additional width of 10 fe.t shall be r.served a. an
...em.nt for pos.lble future purchase by the County if deemed n.c....ry
for the four-l~ninq of S.R. 951 ~t the then current m~rkot value-. Th.
....m.nt may then b. u.ed for landscaping and buffering.
Mr. G·rorg. Varnadoe, repre.enting the petltioner, stated that the
fact. have been outlined and he agrees with the recoœmendations a.
a..nd.d. He stated that the project is in compliance with the Compre-
h.n.ive Plan and the CAPC recommended approval.
In answer to Commissloner Hassð, Mr. Varnadoe stated th.t in the
original sit. plan, there were two access points on U.S. 41 which were
approximately 75' apart from one cut to the next, addinq that this doe.
not comply with the County policy that they should be 100' apart nor
does it comply with the Florida DOT requirements, .0 the site plan w..
amended to put them 100' apart. He stated that this satisfied Staff
and CAPe but p.rmits will have to be obtained from the Florida DOT
b.for. the driveways can be put in.
Commissioner Pistor stated that he is concerned because th.re are
numerous convenience stores In the ar.a, adding that he doe. not have
.ny problem with a fast food restaurant. He noted that he also has
concerns with wh.re the State will put the toll booths if they decide
to make S.R. 951 a toll road, addinq that the access drives for this
property may interfere with the toll booths.
Mr. Varnadoe .tated, wlth reference to the toll booths, if they
are placed north of the south entrance, he WQuld not be able to u.e
that entrance. He noted that he talked with the traffic engineer and
he do.s not beli.v. that it will be placed that close to the
Int.r..ction because it may caus. conge.tion on U.S. 41. He stat.d
that he would have to comply with wh.tever the Florida DOT come. up
with. He stated that this site would only be good for commercial u...
He noted that the conv.nience store had a demogr.phic study don.
showing the ne.d in the marketplace for this type of convenience .tore.
Collai..loner Holland .tated that he was told at an MPO m..ting
that if and when S.R. 951 was four-l.ned, the toll boðth would be
consid.rably .outh of U.S. 41 toward Marco. He stated th.t he do.. not
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have .ny probl.. with the r.zonin9.
CO_IIIs.ioner Ha..e stated that there are a number of convenience
·".tore. In tha area, addin9 that thh ahould be looked into.
~..I..r ,I.tor ....eI, ..coadeel by Co_taaloaer 8011.... and
oarrled unaaiao..ly, th.t the public be.rlDf be clo.ed~
Co..i.sioner Has.e stated that he has concern about the drainage
problell and that no new problema will be created.
Community Developœent Administrator Mullin. stated that Hater
Managellent has always been v.ry thorou9h.
Mr. Varnado. .tated that the local DOT recomllended that the t.n
loot strip be used for w.ter man.gement purpo... but, when the County
'acqul'res the fee simpl. title to it, th.n they would accept the water
run-off. H. stated that there has been an agreement r.ached that the
County would hay. an ....m.nt oyer that strip which all.viate. the
water management concerns.
CO_la.loaer 'S.tor ~ed, ..cond.d by eo..l..I..er GoocIal,bt aDd
carried waanlllOu.l" tbat the Ordln..c. .. a_bered .nd entitled below
be "'pted .nd .atered Into Ordlaace holt 121 .nd that the htltloa.r'.
.'r....at wltb tbe ...Dd.d stlpulatloaa be .ccepted.
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aU11 OI'l'llODOX CBURCB, U All IXTaslOll ó. A PItOVIlIOllAL UII _ ADOf"I'ID
Plannin9 and Zoning Director Pettrow stated that on Septe.ber 18,
1984, the Greek Orthodox Church was granted a provisional Use for a
church on a five acre site on the east side of Airport Road, east of
Orange Blosso. Drive. He noted that the construction has not co...nced
and the petitioner i. requesting one more year extension and Staff has
no problem with grantinq the extension. He noted that there have b.en
financial problema in the past. He concluded by stating that Staff i.
recollmending approval.
Co_luloa.r ...... _ved, second.d by Co_isston.1' Bollaad and
carl'ted ....t.ou.ly. tbat Resolution '5-171 re '.titloa PU-'C-l2C, _.no
.,...., r.'I'....tlftt tb. Greek Ortbodoa Churcb, requ..tIDt an eate..loa
of a provt.I...l ... be adopted.
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CLARIPICATIOM OP BOARD DICIBIOM R& PAIRWAY ~IRS - COWT'D twO walKS
Attorney Donald Pickworth, repre.enting the Elkin Company, stated
that th.y ar. the own.rs of some property in Lely Eatatea known a.
Fairway Towers. H. stated that this matt.r came b.fore the BCC in 1978
when the property owners asked the BCC to declare that they had the
right to develop their prop.rty in accordance with the 1972 site plan
that was .ubmitted to the County. He noted that the matter came before
the BCC and waa the subject of some discua.ion, whereupon a motion was
made end it was declared unanimously by the Bce that the property
owners were entitled to build their project In accordance with the
.ubmission of 1972 and, following that, a letter relteratinq that
action of the Board was written by Mr. Clemmer, who was the Zoninq
Director at that, tlme essentially explaining the Board's decision. H.
stated that the next time the matter appeared in public was in 1980
when a group from Lely Estates appeared before the BCC complaining
about this project havlng a higher denslty than it should have had,
adding that there was agaln considerable discussion and a motion to
uphold the present density wa. made, meaning the density as the zoning
had chanqed, and that m~tion failed by a 4 to 1 vote which put it back
to what the petitioner had In October of 1978. He stated that
subsequent to that time, thtt owners have built one more building of the
oriqinal five building project and the que.tion regards what th.y are
able to bulld today, adding that the zoning has changed again. He
stated that h. recoqnizes the fact that there has to be .ome limit a.
to how long anyone has on these old projects but, on the other hand,
this i. a different situation than the normal qrandfather situation.
He stated that when zoning change. are made, property owners have to
comply with the new laws, but In thls case the BCC has already
con.idered all these varlous facts concerning whether this should be
grandfathered or not and It was determined that this property should b.
grandfathered and the property owners have acted in reliance on this
determination. He noted that part of the reliance is that the proj.ct
has not been built durinq the intervening tlme and there was no time
li.it placed upon this matter. He stated that he i. in a situation
today as to how to balance the.e competing interests, adding that there
has to be an end to this so.wwh.r. but, at the sa.. token, it do.s not
.... right that with no notice the man should have -the rug pull.d out
froll under hi.-. He stated that he is before the Board to ask th..
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'. once again to aðjucUcate this matter.
Co..i.aioner Voss stated that in 1982, the zoning va. changed to
RMr-16 which allows 16 units per acre or 60 units on the reIDainin9
lenð, adding that Staff i. recolD..ndin9 tha~ the County advi.e the Lely
Civic As.ociation of this ..tter before any decision i. made.
County Attorney S.under. .tated that when the zoning wa. changed
In 1982, the landowner may have had the -rug pulled out from under hl.-
at that time rather than now. He .tated that he agre.s vith Mr.
Pickworth'. analy.i. on the general reliance ca.e, but vhen the Board
took action in 1982 that was the action that set the zoning on the
property and not the action that wa. taken in 1978. He stated that it
1. Staff'. po.ition and he agree. wlth it, th~t they would be perllitted
to build to the 1982 den.ity but not to the den.ity that va. permitted
in 1972.
Commi.sioner Voss atated that the Lely Civic Association should be
advised before anythinq is done.
Mr. Pickworth Atated that he cannot aqr.. with Mr. Saunder., due
to the fact that the 1982 zoning was a converslon table zoning and this
land was rezoned becauae it fit into. certaln cateqory and all land.
in that catagory were automatically re~ned. He atated that the
individuals that now own the property were never notified other than by
the newspaper notification, adding that as part of a general rezoning,
the Statute only requires a newspaper notification. He reported that
given the previous actions of the Board, it cannot be ..id that the
newspaper notification in the 1982 rezoning should overcome the
specific action taken by the Board on two separate occasiona.
Commi..ioner Pistor stated that it seems by precedence the BCC ha.
to .ettle with the 151 units. He stated that he doe. not like brin9ing
zoning matter. up without all affected parties being notified.
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Mr. Pickworth stated that there is confusion on the numbers,
adding that by their own request in 1978, 20 units were voluntarily
deleted.
Mr.. Ruth Trulson, President of Lely Civic Association, stated
that the re.identa are upset about this matter and she would like to
a.k for additional time. She stated that 21 units per acre i. too much
den.ity, adding that there i. a water problem in the area and this
project should not be con3idered -grandfathered in-. She .tated that
this project i. not an on-going project, adding that it wa. begun in
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1972 and nothing w.. don. for four y.ars and only two building. in all
th..e y.ar. have been built. She indicated that accordinq to the
n.wspaper, this property is for sale and to allow them 2l unita per
acr. to ..ll the prop.rty would be unh.ard of.
County Attorney Saund.rs stat.d that it i. St.ff opinion that the
exi.ting zoning is RrF-l6 and 60 unit. can be construct.d or some
number in that vicinity, adding for that to chang., the So.rd would
have to say that this proj.ct w.s grandf.th.red in and the action by
the prior ~ard is what prevails, and this is what the development
.hould b. or, the petitioner or staff could h.ve the property reaoned.
He .tated that a distlnction ne.ds to be mad. betw..n the two proc.....
b.cause if the Board is qoinq to consider this as a grandf.ther process
it could be consider.d this date or at an advertised public h.aring and
it only takes a simple majority of the Board. He .tated that if this
i. considered to be a r.zone p.tition, then it would have to go through
the n.cessary procedures of the CAPC, the BCC .nd the adv.rtised public
hearlngs.
Commissioner Voss St.ted that he feels that before any deci.ion i.
~de, there should be Input from the Lely Civic Aasoclation.
County Attorney Saunders stat~d that from. strict legal
standpoint, this project w.s prob.bly not 9randfathered in back in 1978
becau.e the code talk. .bout a two-year period .nd a on.-year p.riod
for building of grandf.th.red proj.cts. He stat.d that this is a very
subjective question under strict reading of the code.
Commis.ion.r Holland questioned what cod. w.s in .ffect when this
proj.ct w.s oriqinally approved, to which County Attorney S.undera
st.ted that h. i. r.ferring to the cod. that i. In effect now and was
in effect in 1982 when the zoning chang~d. H. st.ted that he would do
a aemorandum of law on all thp issu.s th.t have b..n raised by the
petitioner and pres.nt it to the Comm18sioners when it is reheard.
Com.ia.ioner Holland stated that this petition is aom.thin, that
needs to Come back to the BCC and there should be some c'ear r....reh
done on it, so that the Comaission.rs know what liability th.y are
accepting.
Co..i..loner 'Iator ..v.d, .econded by Co..i..lon.r Bolland, that
action be def.rr.d on thl. it.. for two ...t. Ufttll th. Itaff ba. bad
tt.. to r....rcb tb. ..tt.r thoroDgbly and Lely ~"own.r. Aaaoclatloa
baa b.d tb. cb.nc. to atudy tb. ..tter.
Commis.ioner H.... .tated that h. would like to have the County
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the property Is utilized.
COII.i.sloner Vo.. stated that in the caSe of a PUD, it is a
contract between the County and the Developer and any time lillit CQuld
be put in, adding that it ha. not been done but should be done. He
noted that he has asked Staff to give him a list of all the properties
that ðre rezoned in this County currently and whether or not anything
has been done on them, whether there has been any building, how long
ago the property was rezoned, and if there has been any action on that
property with regard to the new zoninq of the PUD. He stated that he
will have that in the near future.
Upon c.l1 for tb. que.tlon, tb. ~tlon carried uaanl~..ly.
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PUD or other ordinance can last before
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PU8DTA'I'IO. BY 'AnI BYLAarDS RI TRAILIR PlRlCI'!' IX'I'. - .0 ACTION 'l'un
Mrs. Patti Hyland. of N.E. lOth Avenue, Golden Gate Estates, read
a letter which had been sent to the Commissioners regardinq her request
for a trailer permit extension. She indlcated thðt she had final
clorinq on her home that she solò on the east coast on August 7, 1984;
had a building permit to build a home in Golden Gate Estates on August
l, purchased a trailer and received a trailer permit on August a, 1984,
contacted Florlda Power' Light for temporary power on August 10, 1984
and was told that 1t would take J months to hook up temporary power but
before they could do that she had to have a slab, rough plumbing,
@@~t1c t~nk And w-.ll, Sh~ indlcat~d that she was laid ~ff from her jOb
due to back problems, lost $85,000 1n plants, lost a member of her
family, survived fires; had her property flooded out which now has fish
and cottonmouths on it; had to pay vet bills due tu snake bites, cannot
receive alternate flnancing to flnlsh the house; fill dirt from the
canals that she thought belonged to her is beinq removed from her
property, and now she has no alternative but to remain in the trailer
on her property. She referred to the Supreme Court rulinq in the
Cottonqim case, adding that it wa. determined that all that fill dirt
belonqed to the property owners. She stated that she has to appeal to
the County to let her stay on her own property.
Comml.sloner Hasse stated that the trailer permit has been issued
for one year and the ti.e limit is now up. He questioned when she
could complete her home?
Mr.. Hylands stated that she could complete it when she recovers
financially and finds a job.
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Co..is.loner v~.. questioned who owns the fill on the spoil bank,
to which Public Works Administrator Kuck stated that the County and GAC
enter.d into an .tjr....nt years atjo that indicated that the property i.
GAC's and they had five y.ars to remove it from the .ites.
County Attorn., Saunders stated that it i. the County'. position
that GAC/~vatar i. the owner of that and an agreem.nt has been entered
into for a .plit of monie. from the sale of the spoil material.. He
noted that there was a lawsuit filed by Mr. Cottonqim questioninq
owner.hip in a particular ca.. which Hr. Cottonqim won, but it was
.1IIply for that piece of property b.cause of the circum.tanc.. Involved
in that particular ca.e and not for all the spoil banks. He stated
that at the moment GAC/Avatar is not removing anymore fill from the
spoil banks.
Mrs. Hylands stated that she plans on selling the fill that i.
sitting on her prop.rty and Commissloner Vo.s indicated that this fill
cannot be sold as there are ordinances aqainst it.
In answer to Commis.loner Has.e, Mrs. Hylands stated that she i.
looking for alt.rnat. financing and a job.
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Commission.r Hasse stated that he would like for Hr.. Hyland. to
be given a three month ext.nsion if she can qet construction started
aqaln.
Mrs. Hylands stated that she dld not know wh.n she could get a job
or g.t her construction started agaln.
County Attorney Saunders stated that there is not a petition
pending for an ext.nsion rlght now, adjing that she is aSking the Board
for relief and in ord.r to do anythlnq she would have to apply for an
extension and she has already be.n given her final ext.nsion.
Community Development Administrator Mullins stated that since the
Board placed a moratorium on trailer permits on June 4, 1985, no
further application~ can be accepted. She stat.d that with other ca...
people are being told to remove the trail.r and if they do not in a
certain 420unt of time, it is turn.d over to the State Attorn.y's
office for prosecution.
Comlli..ioner Voss stated that the full one y.ar extension ha.
expired, addinq that she has had unfortunate problem., but the law i.
the law.
Com.is.ioner Masse .tated that he feels that circumstances in each
of these ca.e. .hould be handled by themaelve. and he would like the
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p.per. to grant an addition.l three
Attorney to ..ke up the n.c...ary
80nths to Hrs. Hyland..
County Attorney Saunder. .t.ted th.t in individual o..e. where a
per.on'. trailer permit had .xpir.d and the house wa. not complet.d,
Staff had gone to the St.t. Attorney'. office and had those individual.
pro..cut.d and after court d.te. h.d been set, the 80ard reviewed tho.e
individual c.... .nd d.t.rmin.d that becau.. th.y had substantially
completed their hou.e, that the State Attorney and the Criminal Court.
would be a.ked not to continue with the prosecution. He .tated that
there had be.n .ome .xception. because at the end of the on.-y..r
period the house was substantially compl.ted. H. not.d that th.re has
been no additional 3 month or 6 month period add.d to the permit. He
noted that there i. no provision in the ordinance for qranting anything
other than the 6 month and two 3 month extensions. He indicated that
Staff could b. directed not to prosecute a par~icular individual if the
BCC could e.tablish that the individual is clo.e to completing the
house.
Community Development Administrator Mullins stated that the
bulding þermit is due to expire October 30, 1985, and Mrs. Hyland. ha.
had three inspections aside from the well and septic tank. She stated
th.t all she has is the slab and the temporary pole. She stated that
the actions that have been taken in the past have to bo considered and
tho.e people that have not removed their trailers are beinq pro..cut.d.
She indicated that the system is being followed and the integrity of
the .ystem n.eds to be malntained.
Commissioner Hasse stated that the case sh~uld be reviewed after
the State Attorney makes his recommendation.
County Attorney Saunders questioned if Commissioner Hasse .eans
th.t Staff ahould process this as any normal violation if Mrs. Hyl.nd.
does not remove the trailer and once the charges have been brought and
the State Attorney begins the proce.s of the prosecution, then the BCC
will take a look at the facte as they exist at that time?
Community C.velopment Administrator Mullins stated that this could
take anywh.re from 60 days to four months.
Commissioner Hasse stated that he agrees with County Attorney
Saund.r.' stat.m.nt and f..ls that this is the way it .hould be
handled, and therefore, no action should be taken.
Co..issioner Voss .tated that the ace has decided to take no
.ction on the request and the State Attorney will continue the proc....
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Community Development Administrator M1'll1ns stated that Mr..
Hylands will be n~tified, adding that an inspector will be out to tag
the trailer when the permit expires, at which time the proce.. will
start.
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STAPP AUTIIORUKD TO FORWARD ft. MDI1MDT8 TO '1'BI FUTURa LAlfD USI AltD
TRAIISPORTA'1'IOII EL.....n OF TBE CON.RIBI.SIYI .LAII TO TBI FLORIDA
DE'ARTNDT OP COfUIU.In AlPPAIRI AltD ftl 80UT8lflIT FLORIDA RIGIOIIAL
'LAMMING COU.CIL POR TBIIR ~IVIIW
Planner Cacchione stated that Chapt~r 163 of the Florida Statute
sets forth the procedure for amending the Comprehensive Plan, adding
that In order to be included as part of the Comprehensive Plan, the
amendments to the Future Land U.e Element and the Transportation
Element must follow the same procedure as the original adoption of the
C~mprehensive Plan. She noted that she is recommendinq that the BCC
authorize Staff to determine that the CCPA has held a public hearing on
the amendments with due public notice which were held on May 23, 1985,
and July 11, 1985, and that a copy of the draft amendment. to the
Future Land Use Element and Transportation Element of the Comprehensive
Plan be trðnsmi tted to the Departmei't of Communlty Af fairs and the
Southwest Florlda Reglonal Planning Council be transmltted for their
formal 60 day review period.
Co..I..ioaer .i.tor ~ved, seconded by Co..i..loner Ba... and
carrl.d unanl.ously, tbat Staff b. authorized to forward the a..nd..nt.
to the future laad uae el..ent and transportation ele.ent of th.
Co.preb.n.lv. ,lan to tbe Florida Depart.ent of Co..unity Affair. and
tbe Southwe.t Plorida Regional 'lannin, Council for their re.iew.
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RaaOLUTIOII 15-172 A.D AGRE"'DT AUftORIZING JOI FIXIL TO Act 011 ftl
COUWTY'S BEHALF AS COU.SIL FOR &MIKIMT DOMAIN PROCIEDINGS _ ADOPTED.
Public Works Administrator Kuck stated that the Collier County
Transportation Department will be acquiring rights-of-way for road
improvement projects based on either immedIate or long term plans,
adding that the County may have to condemn certain properties in order
to acquire all the rights-of-way needed for the road projects. He
stated that this will occur only after neqotiations are exhausted and
as a last resort. He reported that it is anticipated that legal
counsel with expertise in condemnation proceedinqs will be needed to
assist Collier County in completinq riq;.ts-of-way acquisition projects.
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ø. noted that Jo. Fix.l i. an attorney who .p.cializ.. in eminent
'do..in proc..dintj. and ha. repr...nt.d Collier County in ..v.ral c....
.nd hi. prof...ion.l ..nn.r, .dvic., and coun.el has re.ulted in
Colli.r County being abl. to .inimiz. oond.mnation .xp.n.... He .tat.d
that he i. a.kinq th.t a r..olution and aqr....nt be approved
authorizing Jo. Fix.l to act in the County's behalf as coun..l in
e.in.nt domain proc.edings.
County Attorney Saunders stat.d that h. would recommend that the
County continu. the r.lationship with Mr. Pix.l.
Commi.sioner Holland que.tioned how much money is left in the
budtj.t for this fi.cal year for out. ide legal coun..l, to which County
Attorney Saunders replied approxi.ately $60-70,000. County Attorn.y
Saunders stat.d that the cost for the eminent domain couns.l and the
n.xt it.m coming up would not come out of the County Attorney's sp.cial
counsel budget.
Com~issioner Hasse qu.stioned if any of the three attorney'. could
handle this, ~o ~hich County Attorney Saunder. .tat.ð that he ha. tried
to handl. as .uch of the eminent domain work as possible which ke.ps
the f.es down, but there i8 a need to have someone who sp.ci.lize. in
.min.nt domain work.
Co_I..loa.r: Pi.tor: aoved, ..cond.d by Co_i..loaer Yo.. .nd
aarried 3/2, Ceo.al..lon.r:. Be... .nd Bolland oppo..d) th.t R.solutlon
15-172 be adopted aad th. .'r....nt .utborlala, Jo. rlx.l to act oa th.
Couaty'. bebalf a. couns.l for e.in.nt do..in proc..dln,. be .ppro..d.
Commissioner Holland stated that he is tired of voting for out.ide
l.gal counsel for every issue th.t comes up, to which Commission.r
Ra.s. concurred.
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!'~~u..ua.I, rLORIDA, AIID ICon I,nwu, WAlIIIIG'I"O., D. C. A!' All
IUlIIDl'I'UR. .. '1"0 Us,ooo PLUS nPI.SIB '1"0 PR..ARI A Cc:..'LftI DI". or
RIQULA'1'IOMS AIR QUALIfY CO.S'1'RUCTIOM 'IRMI!' A"LICA!'I~ - AP'ROVED
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Assi.tant County Manaqer Dorrill .tated that this item include.
two firms who are Hopping, 80yd, Green' Sams of Tallahasse., Florida,
and Scott Spiewak of Washlngton, D. C., adding that this is of a highly
technical permit nature and these firms specialize sol.ly in the work
that is being proposed. He stated that this is for an air quality
permit associated with the resource recovery project. He stated that
he i. proposing that these firms be on ð retainer of the County in the
amounts of $10,000 and $S,OOO respectlvely for the servic.s of Hopping,
Boyd, Green, Sams of Tallahassee and Scott Spiewak of Washington,
D. C. He stated that the reason for this is that the County i. under a
tight timeframe with respect to making a decision on resource recovery.
He noted that the project has been fast-tracked, but a decision
regarding a vendor will n~t be made ~ntil sornetlme in September, adding
that the proposed ch3nqes In federal tax law may severly curtail
whether or not the County is going to consider lhis project at all and
because of the time that it takes to negotiate aqr&ements with the
electrlc companies and to try and get air quality permits, he is trying
to do four or flve different types of things concurrently l.adinq up to
the decision that will be made sometime in September. He stated that
his recommendation is that the BCC authorize the retainaqe that was
mentioned and maximum dxpehditures on a time and material basis not to
.xceed $65,000 for the alr quality permit and an additlonal $10,000 for
the successful negQtlation of an electrlcity sales purchase agreement
with Florida Power & Light. He noted that the next item is an
accompanied budget amendment to accomplish this if it i. approved.
In answer to Commissioner Hasse, County Attorney Saunders stated
that in a situation like this where a firm is attempting to get an air
quality permit rapidly, it makes sense to deal with a Tallahas... firm.
He stated that he is famillar with the Hoppinq, Boyd, Green and Sams
firm as he has done work with them in the past and they are v.ry qood.
He noted th~t as far as the type of work that is involved, h. would
recommend that the County Commission approve hirlng the firm to handle
the air quality permit because of the shortness of tim.. He .tated
that he concurs wlth .taff recommendation reqardinq the negotiations
for the sale of electricity. _
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Commissioner Holland questioned if the Commission has mad. a firm
~ecision on exactly how Solid Waste Disposal is going to proceed, to
which Assistant County Manager Dorrill replied neqatively, adding that
.uch a decision will not be ..de until the last part of September.
Assistant County Manager Dorrill stated that attorneys would be
retained in the amounts of $lO,OOO and $5,000 to begin work that
obviously is not going to be completed by the time the Commission has.
chance to llake final decision. He .tated that if the County decides
not to proceed with any type of resource recovery work, then all actl-
vities will cease. He stated that to wait until the end of September
and then to expect Staff in the course of 60 days to negotiate con-
tracts to accomplish air quality permitting and the sale of electricity
to the utility and a delivery and service agreement with whomever might
be a successful vendor and beat the December 31, 1985, deadline cannot
be accomplished.
Commissioner Holland stated it seems that the County i. not
concerned about the tax dollars that are being spent, but the County is
concerned with the private vendor that mayor may not decide that they
want to come into the County to do a service that has not been
determined yet which way it is going to be done, addinq that this is
definitely putting the ·cart before the hor..·.
County Attorney Saunders stat.d that if the project i. financed
under existing tax laws so that interest is tax exempt, it means that
the private vendor profits benefits from that but it also mean. that
the user. will pay a lower fee because of a lower cost to the vendor.
Commissioner Holland questloned what type of permlts these people
are going to be seeking and what research is going to be done if the
Commission has not made a decision on which route is going to b4 taken?
Commissioner Voss stated that If the Commission decides to qo with
resource recovery because of the problems at the landfill, it will have
to be done by the end of the year before the tax laws change. He noted
that if the tax laws chanqe, private vehdors will not come in to
dispose of the solid waste for the prices that are now beinq
considered, adding that Staff is obligated to search out mean. of
holding cost down. H. stated that t.he.e firms are being set up on a
retainer so that in the .vent that the Commi.sion make. the decision to
go in the resource recovery direction, th.s. firms are already retained
and ready to go. He stated that the Commission cannot wait until the
last minutes, adding that he would like to congratulate Staff in having
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the foresight to g.t somethlnq started on it.
Co.mi.sion.r Pistor qu..tioned if the $65,000 plus expenses is
r.alistic for getting this permit?
Mr. Dorrill atated that some of the filing fe.s for certain type.
of permits can be as high as $25,000. He stat.d that Staff i.
convinc.d that the neg~tiat.d price is v.ry r.a.~nable.
Commi..ion.r Pi.tor qu..tioned if the $25,000 for a permit i.
included within the $6~,OOO, to which Mr. Dorrlll stated that the
$65,000 is a lump .um nQt to .xce.d, addinq that the $25,000 is not an
e xp.n...
Commis.lon.r Holland stated that the Executlv. Summary stat.s
$65,000 plus .xp.n....
Mr. Dorrill stated that he Is lead to believe that these are
r.imbur..abl. for Qut-of-pocket .xpen....
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Commissioner Holland stated he fedls th4t the Attorney should have
.ome input intQ something that com.s before the Commis.iQner with
reterenc. tQ attQrney fee. of about $100,000.
Mr. Dorrill stat.d that he is not proposing to sp.nd SlOO,OOO,
adding that h. is propo.ing that the.. flrms b. retained in the total
~mount of $15,000. He stated that it i. well within his discr.tion to
propose these types of thlngs tQ the Commisslon in order that this
project be accompli.hed by the .nd of the calendar year.
County Attorney Saunders stated that he reads the mat.rial to
indicate that it is e.tlmated that the fees for the .nqin..rs and
attorn.ys would not excðed $65,000 plus their Qut-of-pockets exp.n....
H. noted that tne attorneys will be charging an hourly rat. and the
engin.era bills will not exc.ed $65,000, adding that he would read the
lelter as probably not Including filing f.es.
Mr. Dorrill stated that he does not know what the actual filing
fe.. for the air quality permit ar., adding that if the Commission
int.nded to qo oth.r routes than the one mentioned, it involves the
power plant .itinq permitting process which is a on.-time lump sum te.
of $25,000. He .tated that the letter indicat.. that expen.e. that are
not includ.d in the $65,000 are travol, xerox, telephone, printing, and
application charge. and that h. could report back to the Board with
r.f.rence tø what the application charg.. would b., adding that he is
not recomm.nding that the Commi.alon hold off on this item.
Coe.I..loaer PI.tor aoved, ..conded by Co..a..loner Goodnl,bt,
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that the ace autborl.. aft .xpendltur. up to "5;000 plus e.pen..s, to
retal. ü. .."I.... .f üe law fir. of Ioppl"" lIoyd~ Qreen; aDd S...
of ~allaba...., rlorlda, and Ioott apl..._ of w.ablatton, D. c. to
preper. a ooapleta Depert..at of Re,ulatloa.' Air OUallt~ Coa.tractlon
"ra1t application.
In answer to Com.is.ioner Hasse regardinq the cost of the expense.
at the landfill, Public Works Admini.trator Kuck .tated that the
.sti.ated cost over the next five to seven year. for the landfill to
provide the cell to meet the D!R requirement will be $6-7 million. He
stated that if the resource recovery process i. used this money will
still have to be spent for the landfill site, but the expenditure of
money to .eet the DER require.ent with a resource recovery proce..
~uld last about 4 times as long which would mean that the $6-7 million
would last for a period of approximately 25 years instead of 6 or 7
years.
Commissioner Voss stated that in order to-keep t~e options open,
the Com.is.ion should go ahead with this at this time, otherwise, the
chance to do it haß been precluded.
Upon call for the vote, the .otion carrled 4/1, (Co..i..ioner
Mollaad ~ppo..d).
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BUDan AlUllDlIII'I' I'OR '1'111 SOLID WAB'I'I DIPAR'l'Narr Drl'BRPRISI ACCOUIn' I.
'1'81 ANOu.r or '75,000 - APPROVID
Co..i..loner Pi.tor .oved, .econded by eo..t..ioner Goodnl,bt and
carri.d 4/1, (Co..i.sioner Bolland opppoaed) that the badt.t a..nd..nt
for th. Solid Wa.te De~rt.eftt Int.rprla. Account in tb. a.ount of
.75,000 be approved.
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'.LIC Il&ARIIIG 8ft POR AUGUST 27, 1185, RI PURCIlA8I or LILY 8DfAGI
TRIA'I'NKM'I' P~T - AP'ROYID
County Manager Lusk stated that six or seven months aqo the County
Com.ission instructed him to enter into neqotiations to purchase the
Lely Sewage Treatment Plant. He stated that he has a contract and he
~uld like to proceed with the legal requirements and part of that
requirement is a public hearinq which i& to be held on August 27, 1985.
He atated that the contract was drawn up by the County Manaqer's
office, the County Attorney'. office and Lely.
Fiscal Officer Giles said, regardlnq the purchase, he wanted it
clarified for public record regarding the new require.ent of appraisal.
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for re.l property costing more than $500,000 and qu..tioned if the 30
day pUblic notice requirement applies?
County Attorney Saund.r. at.t.d that under the .gr....nt that will
b. submitted to the Co.mi..ioner. for consi~eration, there 1. no r.al
prop.rty b.ing purchas.d, It i. the faclliti.s, ther.for., the County
would not fall und.r that provision. H. stated that the provisions of
S.ction l25.340l would b. followed which require. a public h.arinq and
certain findinq. to be made by the Commission which is scheduled for
Augu.t 27, 1985.
In an.wer to Fiscal Offic.r Giles reqarding when the Lely
apprai.al would be presented for public record, County Attorney
Saunders stat.d that the Statute doe. not require an apprai.al, .dding
that an evaluatlon by an Enqineering firm was don..
Fiscal Officer Gile. questloned if this .valuation would b.come
part of the public record, as it wa. paid for as part of the
Engineering? Mr. Dorrill stated that it will be part of the record at
the time of the public hearinq.
Fiscal Offic.r Giles stated that under Chapter 119 it i. required
to b. s'Jbmitted at a Board meeting to become part of the public r.cord.
He stated that if there i. some sort of notice requirements or
additional appraisals, he would not want the SOard to move forward on
it at this point.
County Attorney Saunders stat~d that he has determined that the
provision. in Section 125.3401 apply and all of the information
requir.d in the 9 paragraphs of that section will be submitt.d to the
Board, will be open for publlc inspection and commented on by Staff and
the public h.arinq will be on August 27, 1985. He report.d that
nothing in that list of items requlres an appraisal. He not.d that the
.valuation that was done wlll b.come part of the information that i.
pre.ent.d to the Board and, althouqh it is not legally required, it
will be available. He noted that the Board can have the hearing and
deteL~in. that the purchase i. In the public interest at that h.aring
and then can approve the contract at the same time.
Fiscal Officer Gile. .tated that this mu.t account for the It..
reqarding the underwriters for $40 million which would include the Lely
purchase also.
County Attorne1 Saund.rs stat.d that Lely is listed as a proj.ct
und.r that bond i.su., but und.r the propo.ed agree.ent that proj.ct
would b. financed basically by the develop.r and the County would pay a
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certain amount each year for three or four y.ars and it would not b. a
part of the bond issue. H. noted that it is listed as a project in the
event that the County needs to look at a bond issue for Lely.
Co-.d..lon.r 'i.tor .oved, .ecoaded by Co..l..loaer Goodnlgbt and
carried uaanl~u.ly, tbat the public b.arln, re,ardlng the purcha.. of
tbe Lely Se.a,. Treat.eat Plant be beld on Au,ust 27, 1"5.
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RDOIrI' c:. SIECCJm) DISTRICT COURT OF APPEAL DacISIOII I. u.&T IllAPLU WAUIt
SY8T1KI ~ITltU8T CA81 . 85-234 THAT COUNTY WATIR-SIWIR DISTRICT IS
IXIMFT FROM FLORIDA AMTITRUST ACT - NO ACTION TAKIN~
County Attorney &aunders stated that hs has decided that whenever
there ~ a m~Jor RSU~ r~solved In any of the litiqation involved in
the East Naples Water Systems, Inc. he would present a report to the
Board. He indicated that he distributed a memorandum from Assistant
County Attorney Anderson concernin9 two cases that were filed in State
Court and in both of those cases there WdS a c~unt in the complaint for
damaqes for alleged violations of the Florida Antitrust Act. He stated
that he hðd argued in the Circuit Court cas~ in both of those matters
that the County Commissioners, the County, and the County Water-Sewer
District ùre exempt from damag~ awards under the Florida Antitrust Act
because of provisions in Chapter 153, which Is the Chapter that autho-
rizes the County tQ ~et up County water-sewer dlstrlcts and to requlate
utilities. He noted that the Circuit Court granted the motion to
dismiss which was appealed by the East Naples Water Systems, Inc. to
the District Court of Appeal and they gave a decision affirminq the
dismissal with prejudice of the Antitrust count in one of the com-
plaints. He indicated that the Eðst Naples Water Systems, Inc., in the
second case which was also on appeal, took a voluntary dismissal In
that case, recognizing that the District Court would affirm the dis-
missal of that case as they did in the other case. He reported that
the effect of this is that the Individual Commlssioners named as
defendants in the Antltrust action are no longer subject to any damages
or actions or alleged violatlons of the Florida Antitrust Law, addinq
that it is his opinion because of recent amendments to the Federal
Antitrust Law there will not and could not be any action aqainst the
Commissioners for violatlon of Federal Antitrust Laws. He noted that
there are still actions pending for damages against the County for
alleged wrongful regulation of the East Naples Wat.r Systems, Inc. and
there is still the civil riqhts action in Federal Court in Miami, but
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there is no need to worry anymore abQut Antitrust claim..
In answer tQ Com.i..ion.r H.ss., County Attorney Saunders .tat.d
that under the Antitrust Law. if th.r. is a violation, .o..on. provin9
the violation i. .ntitled to attorney f.e. a. wvll as triple damag..,
adding that this was a aub.tantial conc.rn to him and hø was v.ry
pl.a..d that the cases w.r. dismiss.d.
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ROUTI.I BILLS - APPROVID rOR PAYM"T
Pur.uant to Resolution 81-150 the fOllowing checks were issu.d
through Friday, August 9, 1985, 1n payment of routine billsl
CHECK DESCRIPTION CHECK NOS. AMOUNT
Vendor
131808 - 132084
17564 - 18154
$291,251. 01
251,702.94
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BUDOIT AMI.DMI.TB 85-378, 85-380 AMD '5-382/384 - ADOPTED
Co..is.ion.r Pt.tor .oved, ._Qonded by Co..iaaton.r ..... an~
cacried unaniaou.ly, that Budget "-.nd..nta 85-37', 85-380 and
85-382/384 be adopted.
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STArr TO LOOK I.TO ~HI ISSUI or DOUBLI CHARGING or UTILITY IMPACT 'IBS
Commis.ioner Piator stat.d, wlth r.ference to impact f..., .ome
p.opl. are being charged t~ice, ~nc. by the County and again by the
D.v.lop.r, adding that he think. that the matt.r shQuld be corrected.
He noted that the person connecting up to water and .ewer should only
pay one., not twice.
County Manaq.r Lusk stated that if the purchase of the Lely S.wag.
Treatm.nt Plant i. approv.d the double impact fee. will be eliminat.d
.. this i. the last area where th.r. ar. double impact f....
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Utilitie. Administrator Crandall stated that if the Board doe.
purchas. Lely, the County will be the only one coll.cting impact f....
H. .tated that there is about $400,000 being collect.d this year as a
r.sult of the double impact f.., adding that it i. ð considerable
amount of lIoney.
Commission.r Pi.tor
$400,000 th.n the people
stated that if the County is collecting
that are Äeing a....sed ar. paying $800,000
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which ia a ..tter that ahould be im.ediately corrected. Øe noted that
'he would que.tion the legality of it, adding that either the County
cOllect. or the developer collect..
County Manager LUsk stated that part of the problem Is what the
-oney 1. bein9 U.ed for, notin9 that the Impact fee that the developer
Collect. Is to expand the plant that he i. operating and the Impact fee
that the County collects i. to build a regional plant. He stated that
the impact fees are ~eing used for two different things and the
solution is to eliminate the developer which is what will be done if
the Lely plant is purchased.
Commissioner Pistor stated that the situation should be looked at
and the problem avoided.
Utili tie. Administrator Crandall stated that an ordinance could
not be written that would preclude charging Someone that may be charged
by another entity, adding that when the ordlnanëe is written It stmply
say. that a fee is due the County. He stated that what ~~me~ne else is
charginq is not something that the County can requlate.
Assistant C~unty Manager Dorrl11 stated that the Florida Public
Service Commission requires private utilities under their juri.diction
to charge for th~ depreciation and expansion of their plant and they
are obligated to include that in their rate baae.
Commissioner Pi.tor stated that he wants it looked into even
though the Lely plant may be purchased.
Commissioner Voss stated that this is something that Staff should
take a good look at, addlng that people should not have to pay double
illpact fees.
Utilitle. Administrator Crandall stated that if he looks at this
lIatter, it will probably affect the bondlng capabilities as it will be
Income that the County do.. not havd.
County Manager Lusk stated that h. hopes the day will Come when a
developer will be able to hook up to a central system of the County and
not have to build a package plant, adding that this should be the
ul Umate goa 1.
Utilities Administrator Crandall stated that he would be qlad to
review the matter with the Attorney's office.
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JIAJtCO IBLAIID CIlUlBIR or COfIIKIRCI RlQUIS'l FOR A DOIIA'lIOII 'lO 'lBI rLORIIa
BUDDLI IN JANUARY, 198& I. AN .\MOUN'l or $10,000 - A~~ROVID
Mr. Robert Stakich, Presldent of Marco lslan~ Chamber of Commerce,
stated that the Marco Island Chamber of Commerce in conjunction with
the Naples Chamber of Commerce is qoinq to have the Florida HUddle, an
international trade show, in Collier County in January, 1986. He noted
that the Florida Huddle is nine yuars old and he is very pleased that
Collier County could get these people to come to the area. He .tated
that they will come to Marco Island and stay at the Marriott Hotel,
adding that they will have their trade .xn~bits and will write approxi-
mately $80 milllon worth of business for Florida, and the business
people will beneflt greatly from it. He noted that last year this
huddle was in Hollywood and the year b~fore in Orlando. He stated that
he does not have the dollars to expend to welcome these people, addinq
that the M.1rrIott Hotel has commItted a $20,000 budget for special
events for the entertaInment of these people, the Marco Beach Hilton
has committed to $20,000, the Port of the Islands has given $20,000,
and Lee County's TDC has given $17,000 in order to obtain their
business and make them welcome. He stated that the area needs to be
shown properly but the Marco Island Chamber of Commerce is short of
funds. He noted that, jointly, the Naples and Marco Island Chamber's
of Commerce are asking the Commission to help cover expenses and gIve a
.eafood luncheon for th9se people. He stated that they would like the
funds In this fiscal year because the dollðrs are needed now because
the event is January 10, 11, and 12 and all funds will be fully
committed by then. He stated that h~ Is asking for a donation of
$lO,OOO to be used for the seafood luncheon. He stated that he
understands the budget problems the County has, but feels that this is
important and proper for the County to hold such an event.
Mr. Bill McGowan of the Naples Chamber of Commerce stated that he
would lIke to reiterate his support for the Florida HUddle, adding that
he has attended six of the huddles and every hostinq communlty gene-
rates immediate response from the vIsitation. He stated that it i. a
great opportunIty to show what Collier County has. He noted that he is
proposing that Naples hold a Naples Night at the Old MarIne Marketp\ace
for these people. He noted that in addition to the dollars beIng
raised privately fro. the local communities to support it, the input
from the County would be extremely helpful.
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Co..is.loner H.... Itated that tho.e that benefit the most should
be the ones to pay for this type of event.
Mr. McGowan stated that the.e people are from allover the world
and their trip i. completely paid for due to the purch&sing power that
th... p.ople have. He .tated that the.e people develop clientele
anywhere from 100,000 to over 1 ml1lion. He noted that .ome of the
major tour broker. in Germany and England will be here for the event,
addin9 that some of these people are 100kinq to e.tabli.h new bu.ine..
in Florida. He .tated that they are constantly looking for new m.rket
areas and with the excellent area that Southwest Florida has, this i.
the best vehicle that could be u.ed to show off the area.
Mr.. Bettie Gulacsik stated that she has listened to all the
budqet concerns and If this County i. h~vinq that many problems, she
does not like the idea of her tax money belnq used for this purpose.
She stated that the member. of the Chambers should be payinq for this.
In aswer to Commissioner Hasse, Mr. Stakich stated that the
$10,000 is the total expense for tLe .eafood luncheon. He noted that
if the type of buslness i. generated with the exposure that is in this
County, that amount of money will be returned to this County many times
over. He stated that the impact on this community will last at least
three years. He noted that there would be about 800 people at the
luncheon which is why $10,000 is n~eded.
Commi..ioner Voss stated that this i. approximately $l2.00 a head
for lunch which 18 not expensive.
ComlD1ssioner Goodniqht stated that Collier County's economy is
ba.ed on two things, agriculture and tourlsm, adding ~hat this money
could be spent for other items but you have to spend money to make
money and this is a worthwhile cause and the Huddle has been successful
in other communities.
Co..i..ioner GOodnight 8Oved, .econded by Co..i..ioner Pi.tor and
carri.~ unani.ously, that the Marco Iel.nd Ch..ber of Co..erce reqU.st
for a donation to th. Plorid. Huddle ln J.nuary, lie" in the .~unt of
$10,000 be .pproved.
Commissioner Hasse stated that he would like to make .ure that it
i. noted that Collier County is ho.ting this luncheon.
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RUOLU'I'1œ 15-173 AUTIIORIII.a A UFIRDDUM FIBRUARY _.!t. 11:;' U GOLDa
GA'1'. FlU COII'I'ROL AIID RUCUI DISTRIC'1' - ADOP'I'ID. CQllTIIIO UPOIt
a-=-lY111G .11,000 BY OC'I'OBD 15, 1115, FROM TO DII"fRIC"I' '1'0 DURAY C08'I'
OF "fHI ILIC"fIO..
Commissioner Pistor questioned why this resolution has to be
p....d this date if the election is not until February 4, 19861 He
.tat.d that he would a180 llke t~ have the County .ell s~m. ~f the
property that Avatar has donat~d t~ the County to fund the fire
.tation. He noted that the revenue from the sale of property that
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was donated can be used for the purpose of building fire stations.
SUpervi.or of Elections Morgan .tated that she needs five months
to prepare for an eleçtion, adding that from the time sh. makes a
submission to the Justice Department, th.y have 60 days in which to
acknowledge recelpt and If there 18 something lacking it glves l.ad
time for that material, ordering the ballot cards, contactlng the
polling places and arranginq leas8s for the special date and lininq up
the poll workers. She stated that if this was held at the same time a.
the Naples City Council election, some of the costs would be decreased
but she would still need at least $7,500 to start with as she does not
have any money in her budget to aven order the ballot cards.
Commissioner Voss stated that he feels that there should be about
$10-11,000 up front and If all the money Is not used, it will be
returned to the Oistrict.
Commissioner Hasse qu~stion.d how much of the property that has
been donated i. saleable, to which County Attorney Saunders stat.d that
mo.t of the land has not been accepted because it i. of no value so the
County .taff i. still working with Avatar to make sure that some land
is received that 18 of some value.
Community D.velopment Administrator Mullins stated that a lot of
the property that Avatar wants to qive the County is not acceptable and
would be more of a hinderance than an asset, adding that .ome of the
properties for the first two deeds are in the final staqes of beinq
accepted.
Commissioner Hasse stated that this property could b. u.ed for
good purposes for some of the thinqs that are n.eded.
Comlli.sioner Voss stat.d that the amount of money .hould be
decided upon and the referendum authorlzed, adding that there should b.
at lea.t $10-11,000 up front.
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August 13, 1985
Co.i..loner Pi.tor aoge~, ..cond.~ by Co..I..loner B...., tbat
Reeolution 15-173 aathorl.lnt . ref.rendu. r.bruary 4, 19'1, to
.,deter.in. If th. elector.te r..ldlng In the Gold.n Gat. rlr. Coatrol ,
',Re.1Ie DI.tl'1ot ..ata to .pproyea two year .nl.u. tax incr.... of1
'..11 for the purpo.e of fundlnt flx.d ....t. .nd c.pltal I.pro....nt.
wlthla the Di.trlct be adopted; contlng.nt apon r.celvlng $11,000 fro.
the DI.trict to defr.y the co.t of the el.ction~
Supervisor of Elections Morgan atated that she would like to hive
the money by October 1, 1985, in order to order the ballot cards and
would like that included within the motion.
Chief Reev.s stated that he would aak that Ms. Morgan give hi.
until October IS, 1985, to get the money as it i. in a CD and will
mature at that time. He noted that it will be paid for by the Golden
Gate Pirefiqhters Association and their money Ja in a CD, adding that
when it matures on Octobe'( 15, 1985, they will donate it to the
Diatrict and the District will turn it ~ver to the County.
Co.aI.lsoner Pistor ..ended hi. ~tion to "indicate that the
$11,000 be 9iv.n to the Supervisor of Ilection. by October 15, 1"5,
.nd Coa.l..ioner Ba..e a..nded hie ..cond. Upon call for the qu..tion,
tb. aotion carried anani.ously.
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COIUUTI'II R& WA'I'IR . SIWIR Rm.UI REru.DUIQ 8011DS, SIRlES 1985
APPROftD. ca'GUTI'II '1'0 MilT WITH rI.MlCIAL ADVISORS MID RITURJI WITH
RECOMNIIfDATIONS.
Commiasloner Voss stated that he suggested that this committ.e be
composed of the County Manager, Clerk of Courts, and the County
Attorney or their deslqnee and two members of the public. He stat.d
that Commlss1oner H~lland has recommended Mr. Edward C. McDermott from
the First National Bank and Commissloner Goodnight has recommended Bill
Hill from United Telephone Co.
Co..iaaion.r Piator ~Yed, aecond.d by Co..i.aion.r Ha... and
carried unani.ou.ly, that the County Manag.r, Clerk of Courts, and tb.
County Attorney or th.ir d..igne. and Mr. Edward C. AcDer.ott and Mr.
8ill 8111 be apppointed to the Financ. Co..itt.. r. the Wat.r , Sewer
Reveaa. R.fanding Rond., S.ri.. 19a5.
Countj Attornay Saunders stated that the Committee is going to
need some direction as to when the Hequest for Proposals are to be sent
out, when the Investment Bankers are to return the request for pro-
posals, and what firms the commlttee should interview.
Commissioner Voss stated that the last refunding was handled very
well and he would sugg~st that the committee interview the people that
th.y had last time and decide whether or not th~y should solicit bids
from others or stay with the original ones and leave that up to the
Committee to make a recommendatlon to the Board.
Fiscal Offic~r Giles stated that he does not know whether the
financial advisors ~ave advised the County whether to competitively bid
this or have a neqotiated sale, adding that there is a requirement by
the Bureau of Finance that there should be a resolution adopted by the
Board for a neqotiated sale.
Commissioner Voss stated that he ls only suggesting that the
committee review it and come back to the Board with a recommendation.
Commissloner Holland stated that he would like to .ee the
committee interview as many people as necessary and bring the top three
back to the Board with a recommendation but not In any ranked order.
County Attorney Saunders stated that he would recommend that the
Board direct that the Request for Proposals be as outlined by the
Financial Advisors.
Co..i..loner Yo.. .tated that it i. tbe general con..n.u. that the
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nIPARA7IC* or BID SPICIrJCA7IC*S, ADVIR'l'JIIIIO or SMI, MID IVALUA7IOII
or RJ:IPC*sa FOR BALLOT '1'ABULA'1'IOII IQUIPflIII'1' - APPROYlD. rUlfDS
....IbI'I'Ly PROVIDED I. ILKC'l'IOIIS CAPI'1'AL IM.ROVIMD'l' BUDGI'1' '1'0 BI
CARRIID rORWARD 111'1'0 IIIX'1' YIAR'1 BUDGI'1' rOR ABOVE 'URPOSI
August l3, 1985
tb. financial advlaora and co.. back
poa.lbl..
to tb. Board
Commia.ioner Pistor stated that .ince the oriqinal ballot
tabulating equipment was purchas.d, there have been improvements made
if¡ this type of equipment and there 18 a need for the.e improvements.
He not.d that there is a lot of equipment that Is far advanced than
what the County ha., addlng that he would propose thÐt the bids be 1et
for the new tabulating .quipment.
Co..i.aion.r Pi.tor .ov.d, ..cond.d by Co..iaaSon.r Holland and
carried unanlaoualy, th.t the preparation of bid .pecification.,
advertS.lag of ...., and evaluation of r..pon.. for ballot tablulation
equlp.ent b. approv.d and the fund. pr...ntly provld.d In .1.ctlon.
capital I.pro....at budg.t be carried forward Snto n.xt y..r'. budg.t
for .aid purch....
._-.. Co..iu.ion.r Pi.tor .oved, ..cond.d by Co..i..ion.r
Ha... and carri.d unani.oualy, that the followin9 It...
under the Con.ent agenda be approv.d and/or adopt.dt .._..
Ite. 120
'1'RAVEL FOR U'1'ILI'1'IIS DIYISIOII PERSOWHIL A? MI IS'1'IMA'1'ID ,,"OUll'1' or $500
AIID PAYM&IIT OF COIISULTIIIG IIIGINEER SIRVICIS AT AN ,,"OUlf'1' IIOT '1'0 IXCIID
$GOO, FOR A TRIP '1'0 TALLAHASSEE FOR IlIrORIIA'1'IOII '1'0 UPDo\TI THI COASTAL
COLLIER COUNTY 20l FACILITIES PLAN
It.. 121
AGRIDIDIT WIT8 Tal DEVILOPER OF RIDGEPORT PLAZA REGARDIIIG '1'81 IIITIRIM
OM-II'll SEWAGI TRlATMIIIT 'ACILITIES TO BI COIISTRUCTID WIT8I11 THE
PROJIC'1' - SUBJECT TO S~IPULATION
S.. PagllS # J/, - 1-0 £'
1. The a~reement document is found to be leqally sufficient
by the C~unty Attorney for acceptance by the Board.
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ACCIPTAllCI OF IIEWLY COIISTRUCTED WATIR FACILITIIS '1'0 SERVICI THI
COURTSIDI COMNOIIS, PHABI I, WYWDEMIRI
OR Book 1150, Pa9.. 1494-1514
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LllA8I AORIIIID"I' lOa lta5 rORD t'1IoftÞO noM TNtIMI roaD TIIUlIIlAt'1D . CAIt
ALLOWMlCI AtLOCATlD III LUU or AlfMUAL LIASI PAY"an rOR U'l'ltln ADMI..
It. 124
lID .0. UI, JACK . 10Rl COM8ftUCTI0II FOR MARCO IStAIID "IDIU
IRRIOATIOII - ANARDID TO J . R CAaLl C0II8TRUCTIO. III AMOUWT or $11.2",
CONTINOnT UPOII ACCIP'l'MlCI BY MARCO IBLAMD BIAU'I'IrICA'1'IOII COMMI'1"1'11
Le9al notice havinq been published in the Naple. Daily News on
July 15, 1985, .s evidenced by Affidavlt of Publication filed with the
Clerk, bids were received for Bid No. 866 for jack and bore
construction for Marco Islend Median Irriqation until 2130 P.M., July
31, 1985.
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RILEASE OF SIDEWALK BONDS FOR LAKIWOOD UNIT ONE
It.. 126
rIMAL SKTTL&MDIT raR RIGBT-Or-WAY COIIDIMNATIOII CASI, '82-0010-CA,
COLLIER COUNn VB. GIORGI W. SHIPARD, JR., IT AL
See PageS f.30· " 3.5"
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RATUICATIOII OF IM&RGINCY PURCBASI or RIPRAP rROM BUIDI CONSTRUCTIOII I.
AMOUNT or .7,528.l9 rOR THE NAPLIS LANDrILL
It. 128
RISOLUTIO. 85-174 AUTHORIZING IXICUTIOII or CONTRACT IlTHln rLORIDA DlR
. COLLIER COUNTY rOR CONTROL or NOXIOUS AQUATIC PLANTS AT LAKI TRAFFORD
S.e Pa,.. 4ofl- ~
It.. 129
IXTRA GAIN TIMI rOR IMMATE NOS. 35329 AND 45854
It.. 130
ADDIMDUM TO AGREE"EMT WITH OPHELIA ALLIN rOR HO"I MAINTENAMCI COURSI
It.. 131 See Page 'fJ/l
Baa'! PROGRM IlAllAGDlDIT MID ROSS/IBRlillDAJI'I'I CONTRACTS RI .JUSTICI
CIMTIR IXPAII8IOII IXTI.DID '1'BROUGR 9/1/85 AT A COST or APPROX. $60,000
It.. 132
CQUIIT'f IlAllAGER TO AnDlD ICMA AIDIUAL COIIrlRDlCI I. PRlLADILPBIA,
OCTOBIR 27-31, 1985 AT A COST or $1,148
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MISCILLAMIOU8 CORRISPOHDIHCI - PILID AND/OR RIPIRRID
August 13, 1985
There being no objection, the Chair directed that the following
oorr.spondence be filed and/or refer rod to the various departments as
indicated bel OWl
1.
Copy of July 15, 1985, Certification of Compllance from
Florida Department of Corrections addressed to William J.
Kysar, Facilities Manaqer, re Collier County Justice Center.
xc: Filed.
2.
Letter dated 7/26/85 from Carlos R. Carrero, Engineer, Bureau
of Coastal Engineering and Regulation, DNR, stating that DNR
is considering a coastal ~onstruction control line permit for
Bruce Green and Associates, Inc. for ~onstruction of a
single-famlly resiðence located at 3860 Gordon Drive. XCI
Mrs. Mullins, Dr. Proffitt, John McCord, City of Naples,
Filed.
3.
Letter dated 7/30/85 from Lonnie L. Syder, Director, Division
of Beaches and Shores, DNR, enclosinq draft report entitled -A
Primer on the Application of Beach and Coast Erosion to
Florida Coastal Engineerinq and Regulation-. xc: Mrs.
Mullins; Dr. Proffitt; Filed.
4.
Memo dated 7/22/85 from Ted Forsgren, Chief, Bureau of State
Lands Management, DNR, enclosing final version of revisions
to the Aquatic Preserves Rule, to become effective on August
9, 1985. xc: Mrs. Mullins, Dr. Proffitt; Filed.
Letter dated 8/01/85 from James H. Siesky, Attorney at Law,
notifylng of intentional interference wlth prospective
economic advantage of E. Naples Water Systems, Inc., The
Glades, Inc. and Hubschman 'A..ociates. XCI Filed.
s.
6.
Memorandum dated 7/24/85 to Donald B. Lusk, County Manaqer
from Fiscal Officer Giles regarding financlal statements for
Fleet Management/Motor Pool for period ended 6/30/85. XCI
Filed.
7.
~morandum dated 7/24/85 to Doug Greenfield, EMS Director,
regardinq financial statements for period ended 6/30/85 fro.
Flscal Officer Gl1es. xc: FlIed.
8.
Letter dated 7/31/85 from Collier County Tax Collector's
office for period of October 1, 1985, through September 30,
1986 the budqet summary by appropriation cateqory. xc: Ms.
Zalka; FlIed.
9.
Petitions received on 8/02/85 and 8/05/85 requesting special
hearings on the redistricting. xc: ~n Lusk, Filed.
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10. Letter dated 7/23/85 frò. Wayne Z. Daltry, swrRPC, requesting
mOdification. to the ·Vineyard.- DRI Development Order, which
was approved by the BCC on Hay 7, 1985. XCI Mr.. MUllin.,
Pall Bran9acclo1 'iled.
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Ther. being no further busine.. for the Good of the County, the
meeting was adjourned by Order of the Chair _ Tim.. 12.01 P.M.
BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS/
BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS/EX
OFFICIO GOVERNING BOARD(S) OF
SPECIAL DISTRICTS UNDER ITS
CONTROL
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by the BCC -:In t:2"<e-r oJ..? l"..Pr..s
or as corrected .
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