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Naples, Florida, December 3, 1985
LET IT BE REMEMBERED, that the B~ard of County Com~issionors in
and for the County of Collier and also acting as the Board of Zoning
~peals and as the governing board(s) of such special districts as have
been created according to law and having conducted business herein, met
on this date at 9:00 A.M. in REGULAR SISSIO. in Building -F- of the
Courthouse Complex, East Naples, Florida, with the following ~embers
present:
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CHAIRKANt John A. pistor
VICE CHAIRKANt Anne Goodnight
Frederick J. Voss
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I C. C. -Red- Holland
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ALSO PRESENT: James C. Giles, Fiscal Officer; Maureen Kenyon,
Deputy Clerk; Burt Saunders, County Attorney; Ken cuyler and Bruce
Anderson, Assistant County Attorneys; Donald 8. ~~sk, County Manager;
Neil Dorri11, Assistant County Manager; Pam Brangaccio, Deputy
Assistant County Manager; Vickie Mullins, Community Development
Administrator; David WeekS and Ann MCKim, planners; Tom Kuck, Public
Works Administrator; Tom crandall, Utilities Administrator; Tom Olliff,
Fleet Management Director; Don Norton, public Services Administrator;
Bob Fahey, Solid Waste Director; Dr. Ed proffitt, Natural Resources
Management Director; Dr. po1kowski, Health Director, Sherry Rynders,
Risk Management Director; Nancy Israelson, Administrative ASsistant to
the Board, and, Deputy Curtis Mills, Shariff's Department.
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AGENDA _ APPROVED WITH THE fOLLOWING CHANGE
Co..i..ioner Vo.. ~v.d, ..conde4 by Co..i.sion.r B...· .nd
carri.d unaniaously, th.t th. .g.nda be .pproved with the following
ch.nge'
a. Item 16Bl re Bid 1907 be moved to Item l3C
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1985 _ APPROVlD AS PRESENTED
MINUTES or NOVEMBER 12 AMD 19
..cond.4 by Co..i..ioner B.... an4
.inut.. of Nove.ber 12 .nd 19, 1985, b.
Co..is.ion.r Vo.. ~ved,
carried un.niaou.ly, that th.
.pproved .. pr...nt.d.
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PETITIOM R-8S-1SC, KIVI- J. KILLILEA, :~~~ZSIMTI»G rIRST PLAZA CORP~ -
CONTINUED TO DECEMBER 10 1985
Co..i..ioner Vo.. ~.ed, .econded by Co..i..ion.r Bollan4 an4
carri.d unani.ously, that p.tition R-8S-15C, b. continu.4 to Deceaber
10, 1985.
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PETITIOM R-aS-16C, m GLADIS, I.e. U REZO.IIIG nOM Ml-6 '1'0 PUt) rOR
WINTERPARK KORTH _ CONTINUED TO DECEMBER 17 1985
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Legal n~tice having been published in the Naples Daily News on
November 1, 1985, as evidenced by Affidavit of publication filed with
the Clerk, public hearing was opened to consider Petition R-8S-l6C
filed by Dr. Neno Spagna, representing the Glades, Inc. requesting a
rezone from RMF-6 to PUD known as Winterpark N~rth, for a ma)(imum
number of 96 dwelling units on appro)(imatelY 8 acres for property
located on the south .ide of Davis Blvd. .pproximatelY 600 feet ea.t
Airport Road in Section 12, Township 50 South, Rang. 25 East as
indicated on Zoning Map SO-25-1.
planner McKi. stated that the objective of this petition is to
develop approximately 8 acr.s with a maximum of 96 multi-familY
dwelling units with a density of 12 units per acre. She noted that the
lands to the north, across Davis Blvd. are zoned C-SJ lands to the ea.t
and south aro zoned PUD and lands to the west are zoned C-4. She
reported that to the north are car and motorcycle sales, service and
repair businesses, retail sales businesses, and a professional office,
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to the east is winterpark Blvd. and undeveloped landJ to the south are
multi-familY units and tennis courts which is ~interpark PUD and to tne
west is Scotty's. She indicated that Staff and all County agencies
reviewed this petition and recommended approval subject to amendment of
the PUD document to include Staff's stipulations per th~ staff report
dated November 14, 1985. She noted that the Ccpe held their public
hearing on November 12, 1985, and unanimouslY recommended forwarding
petition R-S5-16C to the Board for approval subject to amendment of the
PUD document per the staff report. She reported that there were three
letters of opposition received with one objecting to the density
proposed, one objecting to havin9 commercial business close to thei r .,
property, and one objecting to both-density and commerical. She
reported that the proposed density of 12 units per acre is consistent
with the existing winterpark PUD, which lie. to the south and east of
the subject property. She stated that this rezone petition does not
include commerical uses, adding that it is strictly proposed as a
residential PUD. She indicated that no one spoke for or against the
petition at the CCFC meeting and the PUD dOcUMent has been revised per
cepC's recommendation.
commissioner pistor stated that ~hen this development is completed
there will be a road that runs into LakewoOd Blvd. which will onlY be
about 400-500 feet south of Davis Blvd. and it could be a dangerous
intersection. Se stated that he would like to have the developer pay
for the widening of Lakewood Blvd., to put an island in so there can be
no direct cross traffic.
Planner McKi. stated that there i. ad amendment proposed at this
time to the Winterpark PUD to allow connection to palm Drive and in
Staff's review of that petition, there has been a lengthy discussion
about this situation. She noted that that petition will be heard by
the Board on December 17, 1985. She stated that the petition being
heard this date does not include that intersection.
Assistant County Attorney cuyler stated that this petition could
be continued until the 17th of December if there are traffic safety
considerations and they could be resolved alon9 with the other petition
that is amending the Winterpark PUD. He noted that the two petitions
are separate and it should be addressed on the 17th of December when
the other petition comes before the Board.
Dr. Neno SpAgna, representing the petitioner, stated that he would-
like to proceed with this petl~ion this date, adding that he has been
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negotiating with the staff regarding Lakewood Blvd. He stated that
this is the last phase of the development and they would like to get
the development co~pleted, adding that they have agreed to all stipula-
tions of staff. He stated that at one time this petiti~, WðS part of
the Winterpa rk PUD an:! .It s1gnated as commercial use, but when the
Comprehensive plan was adopted it frowned on strip zoning and staff
wanted some other use put in there and at that ti~e, the commer1cal
property was taken out and they applied for the multiple residential
use.
Mr. Gary Beyrent, representing the petitioner, stated that he
would like to have this petition postponed until the 17th of December,
adding that the traffic situation on Lakewood Blvd. needs to be worked
out and it should be done in conjunction with this petition.
Col. John Beebe, President of Lakewood Civic Association, stated
that the Lakewood residents have concerns regarding public safety in
possible relation to the proposed PUD. He noted that a fire station
site was donated and the people of Lakewood very much appreciate that,
but there are problems with the location due to the busy intersection
that e~ists there. He indicated that there are various locations that
could be used for the fire stat1on. He stated that there are also
traffic problems on Lakewood Blvd. ånd one way to reduce that problem
would be to close off Northlight Drive from Lakewood Blvd. to avoid
cross traffic hazards, adding that the portion of winterpark that lies
west of Lakewood Blvd. could be exited by Winterpark Blvd. and the
proposed Palm Drive Extension. He stated that on the east aide of
Winterpark there would also be an exit available. He noted that there
is also a chance that there ~y be two exits onto Davis Blvd. He
stated that the bike path should continue and signs could be put up
indicating bike crossings. He noted that this would satisfy the
concerns of the Lakewood residents.
COØl~issioner pistor stated that he has some fine ideas and those
ideas should be relayed to the community Development Division ~~d the
petitioner for consideration.
Co..i..loner Vo.. ~e4, .econ4eð by Co..i.sloner Ba..e an4
carried unani.ously, that Petition R-85-16C, be contlnue4 to Deceabef
17, 1985~
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RZSOLUTIOM 85-254 RE ,ETITIØM AV-85-013, WILSO., MILLER, BARTON, SOLL ,
putt, INC., MOZNT, RZ \?t.CATUIG pORT I 011 or GG-l AIID MM-2 or THE REPLAT
or WYNDEMERE TRACT MAP - ADOPTED
Legal notice having been published in the Naples Daily News on
November 17, 1985, as evidenced by Affidavit of publication filed with
the Clerk, public hearing was opened to consider petition AV-85-013,
filed by Wilson, Miller, Barton, 6011' Peek, Inc., as h;ents
requesting the vacation of portions of Parcels GG-l and MM-2 of the
replat of wyndemere Tract Map, to allow petitioner to replat.
Public works Administrator Kuc~ stated that the objective is to
approve the above vacation which will allow the petitioner to replat.
He indicated that the proposed petition is a companion iteœ to Iteœ
lOBi. He stated that -Letters of No Objection- have been received froœ
all the pertinent utility companies and the WKA9 has approved the
petition administratively. He noted that Engineering and Community
Development Departments have no objection to the petition. He stated
that the zoning for this property is PUD and it consists of 11 acres
that the petitioner is requesting to be vacated and combined into a neW
plat. He c~nc1uded by noting that the recom~endatlon is for approval
of the vacation of the plat and the authorization of the execution of
the resolution.
co..i..ioner Vo.. ~.e4, .econ4eð by Co..i..ioner Goodnigbt .n4
carried unanl.ously, that the public be.ring be clo.e4.
Co..i.sioner Voss .o.e4, .econ4e4 by Coaal..ioner Goodnight and
carried unani.ously, that Resolution 85-254 re petition AV-85-013,
wilson, Miller, Barton, Soll , Peek, Inc~; Agent., re vacating pórtion.
of GG-l and MM-2 of the replat of wynðe.ere Tract Map be adopted.
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rINAL PLAT OF WATER
December 3, 1985
_ APPROVED SUBJECT TO STIPULATIONS
Public works Ad8inistrator ~uck stated that this is the companion
petition to Item 6C1, which was previouslY approved. He noted that the
objective is to approve the final plat of Water Oaks at wyndemere. He
said that Engineering Department has completed their review of the
construction drawings, specifications and final plat for Water Oaks at
wyndemere. He noted that these documents are in compliance with the
County Subdivision Regulations and Florida State Statute No. 177. He
stated that he is asking for final ~lat approval for Kater Oaks at
Wyndemere with the stipulation that the final plat not be recorded
until the required improvements have been constructed and accepted or
until approved security is received.
Co..ission.r VO.. .0.e4, .econd.4 by Co..i..loner ø...· and
c.rried unani.ously, th.t th. fin.l pl.t of wat.r O.ts at wynde..r. be
.ppro.e4 .ubject to the abo..-t.ference4 .tipulation.
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ORDIXAMCI 85-69 RIPZALIMG ORD. 83-18 A¥D ORD. 84-20 WHICH REGULATED
PRIVATELY-OWNED WATER , SEWER SYSTEMS , ESTABLISHED CCURRB - ADOPTED
Legal notice having been published in the Naples Daily NeWS on
November 13, 1985, as evidenced by Affidavit of publication filed with
the Clerk, public hearing was opened to consider a proposed ordinance
repealing ordinances 83-18 and 84-20 which regulated privately-owned
water and sewer systems and established the Collier County Utility Rate
, Regulation Board.
Assistant County Attorney Anderson stated that on October 30,
1985, the Boar~ directed Staff to prepare an ordinance repealing the
ordinance which established the CCURRB, adding that the powers that
were once exercised by the Rate Board have been transferr.d to the
Florida Public Service Commission. He stated that this is simply a
housekeeping measure to remove an obsolete and ineffective ordinance
from the books.
Co..is.ioner Bolland ao.e4, ..con4.4 by Co..i..ion.r Vo.. an4
c.rried un.ni.ou.ly, th.t the public he.ring b. clo..4.
Co..i.sioner Ba..e ~y.4, .econ4e4 by Co..i..loner øo11an4 an4
carried unani.ously, that the Ordinance .. nu.bered an4 entltl.d b.low
be adopted and entered Into Ordin.nc. Book No. 221
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ORDIlIIMlCE 85-69
~ ORDlKA»CE REPEALI»G ORDIMAMCI MO. 83-18 AWD ORDINMlCE MO.
84-20 WHICH RELATED TO T8E REGULATION OF PRIVATELy-OWNED
WATER AID SEWER UTILITY SYSTEMS AND ESTABLISHED THE COLLIER
COUNTY UTILITY RATE MID REGULATION BOARD; PROVIDING FOR
CONFLICT AHD SEVERABILITY' PROVIDING AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
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ORDIMA»CI RELATIWG TO LICElSI»G AØD RZGULATIOH OF MOTOR VEHICLES rOR
HIRE MID REPEALING ORD. 83-50 - CONTINUED TO ~ANUARY 21 1986
Legal notice having been published in the Naples Daily NewS on
November 13, 1985, as evidenced by Affidavit of publication filed with
the Clerk, public hearing WfS opened to consider an ordinance relating
to licensing and regulation of motor vehicle. for hire and .repealing
Ordinance 83-50.
Fleet Management Director Olliff stated that on June 17, 1985, he
ca~e to the Board with a request to revise the ordinance that is in
existence to regulate the vehicles for hire. Be stated that he now has
a proposed new ordinance which relates to the same, adding that the
reason that the request was øade on June 17, 19S5, was due to some
possiblY incurred liabilities on the part of the County through some
inspection procedures that the County is not equipped or staffed to
handle and through some operator permits issued through occupational
licensing. He stated that as a result of that, he had a ~eeting with
the Southwest Florida Regional Ground Tran.iPortation Association and
the County Attorney and a new ordinance has been drafted which is what
he is asking to be adopted. He stated that the ordinance eliminates
the two areas of inspections and of actual operators permits, but it
does include some new 1anguague which s~ould take care of itself by a
self-policing basis. He noted that the new ordinance establishes a
public vehicle advisory committee which will review all applications
for certificates to operate vehicles for hire within Collier County and
the advisory committee will then report all findings to the Public
Vehicle Board. He stated that the information provided on the
application is the financial status, the number of vehicles, color
insignias, and other related items. He stated that some of the
insurance coverages have been increased and they are outlined in the
proposed ordinance. He stated that there have been concerns raised
about the insurance coverage and it is being recommended that the bus
trolley insurance requirements be changed to reflect that of the
Florida Department of Revenue. He reported that there is action
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pending by the Florida DepartDent of Revenue to pass new insurance
requirements for buses and aulti-passenger vehicles for hire that would
become effectiV1r. January 1, 1986. 80 stated that he would like to make
the proposed ordinance reflect those changes so that they would be in
compliance with State Statute..
Commissioner HaSse questioned if this ordinance is less stringent
with regards to the lIIechani~al condition of the vehicles, to which Mr.
Olliff stated that the organization is very good at policing themselves
and the County will have a representative that acts as liaison between
the Board and the Advisory Committee and any situations that arise will
be investigated by the County and then a recolIIlDendation will be brought ,'-
back as to whether to issue warnings or revoke the certificate that was
issued.
Mr. Olliff stated that the insurance issue is up in the air, and
he is not sure if $3,000,000 worth of insurance as recolDmended by the
Risk Manager is possible to obtain, adding that it looks like the
Department of ~evenue may raise it to $5,000,000 on January 1, 1986.
Risk Manager Rynders stated that it is hard for buses to get large
amounts of coverage for a reasonable premium, adding that a lot of thelll
would not be able to obtain insurance at $5,000,000 coverage and still
be able to operate.
CommiSsioner pistor stated that he is concerned that if there is
an accident and it goes to court and a decision is given that the
vehicle owner was responsible, then the insurance company will only pay
$50,000 per person as a maxi~um and the vehicle owner would be liable
for the rest. He stated that he i~ also concerned that .ome of these
companies do not even issue that type of insurance for that amount.
Commissioner Holland stated that the Commission took action a
while ago to send a person to Tallahassee if needed and he thinks that
there is going to þe a lIIandate handed down by Mr. Gunther (State
Insurance Commissioner). Hø stated that a company may have to go out
of business because they cannot get liability insurance because most
companies will not issue that type of insurance.
The following people spoke against the ordinance only with regards
to the insurance issue, citing the facts that only $1,000,000 coverage
is needed and not $5,000,000, that it will put a lot of vehicles for
hire out of business, that it will hurt tourism, it will hurt the
elderly people, the travel agents, the hotels, the restaurants; that
the County should wait and see what the State is going to do, that the
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proposed ordinance should be changed on page 2, paragraph A4 to delete
the words -the route of which originates- so that this would cover any
bus that comes in or 90es out of collier County,
Pamela Kelliher Jeanie Toepfer
C:;a ry Mastro Oc:i Richardarson
Raylllond GallMrk Richard cervd1i
Commissioner Voss stated that paragraph A4 could be changed,
adding that the proposed ordinance se.ms to be fine with the exception
of the insurance issue.
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to have to co~ply with
insurance paragraph
with the State's
Mr. Olliff stated that the County
whatever the State sets up. He stated
could be changed to read that it would
requirements.
Commissioner Holland stated that the ordinance doeS not indicate
whether a limousine can be considered a taxicab or vice-versa. He
noted that he would like to see the proposed ordinance continued until
something is determined at the State level.
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Commissioner Holland stated that he is asking that on next week's
agenda a resolution be adopted to be .ent to Senator Mann and
Representative Hawkins aSking that they ask commi~sioner Gunther why
there is a problem in trying to get the type of insurance coverage that
is needed and to get some help for Collier County. He stated that if
the State can mandate that a company insure a drunken driver, then the
State can also mandate that a legitimate business be insured. He
stated that this would have a definite bearing on this ordinance.
Coaai.sione, vo.. ~Yea, .econde4 by Co..i.sloner Basse an4
carried unaniaously, that the ordinance relatin9 to l1cen.ln9 an4
re9ulatlon of aotor yehicle. for blre an4 repealin9 Ordinance 83-50 be
continued to January 21, 19a6~
Commissioner Rolland requested that the above-referenced
resolution be put on next week'S agenda, to which Commissioner pistor
directed same.
Commissioner Holland questioned if these people could be allowed
to charge a reasonable increase in the interim, to which Commissioner
pistor stated that a rate sched'.Ile could be arranged and brought back
next week.
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only be changed by an amendment of an ordinance which would have to be
done by declaring an emergency.
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RESOLUTtOM 85-255 RE PZTITIaI pu-aS-lac, REYMOLDS ALUMINUM RECYCLING
co. RE PROVISIOMAL USE -8- or THE -1- %OMIMG DISTRICT rOR RECYCLING or
ALUMIMUM ON ENTERPRISE AVENUE EAST or AIRPORT ROAD - ADOPTED
Planner McKim stated that the objective of this petition is to
con.truct a can flattening plant for the recycling of aluminum. She
indicated that the .urrounding lands are zoned Indu.trial and to the
north is a vehicle and boat .torage yard, to the ea.t are miscellaneous
fabrication and repair busine....' to the south i. suncoast Steel
Corporation, and to the west is a vehicle storage lot. She stated that
this property i. on Enterprise Aven~e, 1/3 ~ile east of Airport Road
and consists of five acres. She noted that the can flattening plant
will actually be located on a portion of this lot through a lease
agreement between the property owner and Reynolds Aluminun, addin~ that
this portion of the lot does not meet the requirements of the zoning.
ordinance. She reported that should Reynold. Aluminlø ever purchase
the property, it must meet the minimun standards, such a. lot size and
width, as required by the Zoning Ordinance. She indicated that Staff
and all agencies reviewed the petition and recommended approval subject
to the stipulations found in the Executive Summary. She indicated that
there were objections voiced at the cepc meeting which indicated that
this plant would devalue the surrounding property. She noted that
correspondence was received indicating objections, no objections, and
requesting additional infor~ation.
Mr. A. Nevin Isenberg, representing Reynold. Aluminum, stated that
they have been coming to Naple. from Miami for several years one day a
week and almost two year. ago a permanent location was established to
see if they could make a go of it here on the volume of aluminum to be
recycled. H. '.tat.d that they found it is a viable location and the
reason that they would like to flatten the cans is because it reduces
the transportation cost tremendously. He stated that there will be two
trailers at the location and the cans are blown into the trailer by a
mechanized system and the only noise is that from the inside of the
trailer.
planner McKim stated that the main objection was that provisional
use -b- in the ordinanc. lists other types of uses and if Reynolds left
the property another use may be able to go in there, adding that this
is not the case a. the provisional use is onlY for this specific
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co..i..ioner VO.. ao¥.d, .econ4.4 by Co..i..ion.r H...· .n4
carried un.ni.ous1y, that Re.olution 85-255 r. p.tition PU-85-18C,
Reynold. Alu.inua Recycling Co. r. provl.ional u.. -b- of the -I-
zoning di.trict for recycling of aluainua on Ent.rpri.. Avenu. east of
Airport Ro.d be .dopt.4 .ubject to the Finding of r.ct and th.
.tipulation. a. contain.4 in th. Petitioner'. Agr....nt.
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SUPpLP\PlTAL AGRZEMØT rOR PRorZSSIOMAL SERVICES WITH TBE JOINT VENTURE
or BOLE, MOMTES AND ASSOC. AND WILSOØ, MILLER, BARTON, SOLL · PEEK,
IIIC. rOR TB& PIME RIDGE IMDUSTRIAL PARK AREA IMPROVEMENT ASSr.SSMENT
DISTRICT - APPROVED
Public Works Administrator Kuck stated that the objective of this
petition is to approve the negotiated consultant fee to prepare the
final design for the proposed improvements in the pine Ridge Industrial
park Assessment District and to a execute supplemental agreement and
approve financing for sa~e. He stated that the consultant has agreed
to perform the required services for the final design phase, bidding or
negotiating phase and construction ~hase within 270 calendar day. for a
lump sum of $300,000; and the consultant has also agreed to provide
easement, right-of-way and topographic surveys and prepare descriptions
for easements and rights-of-way as may be required by the owner for an
estimated fee of $55,000. He reported that the cost of the preliminary
engineering report prepared under the original agreement was financed
through ad valorem taxes in Fund 132, pine Ridge Industrial Park MSTU,
adding that subject to audit, the remaining balance in Fund 132 is
$145,500. He noted that. upon approval herewith, a budget amendment
will be processed to establish a fund for the pine Ridge Industrial
Park Improvement ASsessment District into which the remaining balance
in FunJ 132 will be transferred. He stated that it is recommended that
the Finance Department be authorized to secure a loan to provide the
remaining funds required to fulfill the proposed contractual payments
as outlined in the Executive Summary dated December 3, 1985. He noted
that the loan would be repaid through the assessment method. He
concluded by stating that he is requesting that the Board approve the
negotiated consultant fee of $355,000, execute the supplemental
agreement with, the consultant and authorize the Finance Department to
secure a loan in the amount of $245,000 to fund the required services.
Fiscal Officer Giles stated that he is recommending that the
consultant work be funded as it has been funded in the past from ad
valorem taxes from this fund and provide a schedule of past engineering
work for this. He stated that traditionallY, engineering services are
paid for through an ad valorem tax rather than special assessment. He
noted that of the $6.3 million to be funded, over half involves water
and sewer projects and an analysis from the Attorney is needed as to
whether he would have to go through the Ta)( Collector's office for
process of collection of this, adding that because of these complica-
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tions security for the loan should be the ad valorem taxes as in the
past rather than complicating it with the special assessment.
commissioner voss questioned if it would b. repaid from the
special assessment, to which Fiscal Officer Giles stated that it should
be from the ad valorem tax because th.r. is not an adopted assessment
roll and all past consultant work has been from ad valorem tax.
Commissioner pistor stated that the pine Ridge Industrial park
Assessment District has been approved and questioned why the money
cannot be collected throuqh that Di.trict?
FIu~al Officer Giles stated that he did not know if the roll had
been formallY adopted, adding that he brought this up in MaY, 1985,
that being $6.3 million, the County should look into the ad valorem
method of collection because there is difficulty in securing the
financing if the traditional route is used as far as looking to
inðividual foreclosures to collect on delinquent accounts.
Commissioner pistor stated that a special MSTU would have to be
set up for ad valorem taxes.
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Fiscal Officer Giles stated that the specia~ MSTU has been set up
since 1981 and this practice should b. continued as it is the best
security for the loan. He stated that if the Board prefers to go with
the special assessment route, the Attorney will have to draw uv the
securIty. He stated that it is ad valorem .trictly for that district.
He said that over half the project is water and sewer and he would like
to know whether that forces the County under the provisions of the
water and sewer statute that mandates that the County go through the
Appraiser and Tax collector's offic. to collect the special assess-
ments, adding that there are a number of big projects coming up. He
stated that the consulting work could continue and he is requesting
that the ad valorem tax be pledged agfinst the loan that he obtains.
He stated that there is $145,000 available to start the project.
Commissioner pistor stated that Fiscal Offic.r Giles could figure
out the mechanics that he wants the Board to go along with.
coami..ion.r Vo.. aoved, .econded by Co.-l..loner Bas.. and
carri.4 unaniaou.ly, that th. .uppl...ntal agr....nt for pròf...ional
.ervic.. with the joint venture of Hol., Mont.. and Assoclat.. and
wil.on, Miller, aarton, Soll 5 Peek, Inc. for the pine Rldg. In4ustrial
park Ar.a I.prov..ent As......nt District be approved.
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PERMANENT POSITION ENTITLED MSTU AC UISITIOH AGENT - APPROVED
Public Works Administrator Kuck stated that the objective of this
item is to provide for a staff øember who will acquire necessary
easements for MSTU acquisition projects, adding that the Board has
recentlY granted approval for the commencement of three major MSTU
projects. He stated that the Board authorized the Public works
Division to follow through with different phases of research and design
for each of the assessment districts, which are pine Ridge Industrial
park and will require 300-400 easements, North Naples Road Assessment
District which will require 170-200 easements, and Naples production
Park which will require 150-200 easements. He stated that ,the acqui-
sition of the easements for these and future assessment projects will
be the responsibility of the Real Estate Section under the Public works
Division. He noted that in preparation for the projects, Staff
conducted a workload analysis study and it has been determined that
existing staff will not be able to handle the additional workload from
the MSTU projects. He stated that the initial responsibility of the
MSTU Acquisition Agent will be to learn County policies and procedures
as well as being responsible for setting up a data base management and
inventory program for the assessment district prior to commencement of
the first project. He stated that primary responsibility, once the
projects start, will be project coordination with all property owners
within the districts. He reported that the job description of the
position will be in accordance with the established position of
right-of-way specialist with a salary range of $16,446 to $23,024. He
noted that the position is proposed in the current budget department
Fund 001-113-2310 with all salary expenditures reimbursed from the MSTU
funds. He noted that the Florida State Statutes are requiring that an
inventory of all County property be established and this proposed
position will give a little more ~le)(ibilitY with Staff 80 that the
inventory list can be prepared. He stated that in the previous item,
one of the figure. was for $55,000 for easements and if this position
is approved some of that work CQuld be delegated to this position and
there would be a savings on that $55,000.
Commission.r Holland questioned if there is any possibility of
doing this on contract, to which Mr. Ruck stated that this has been
done in the past and he believes that it could be more cost effective
in-house for this amount of easements.
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COIIII\1ssioner Holland st,ated that with the salary and the fringe
benefits, it may be cheaper by contract.
Mr. Ruck stated that the road projects are being accelerated and
that is requiring a lot lIIore easements to be acquired so this position
does not only involve the ~ssessment districts. He stated that there
are a lot more County departments relying on the Real Estate Department
to do research, land acquisitions, and easementS.
Co~missioner Hasse questioned if another secretary would be
needed, to which Mr. Kuck replied negativelY.
Commissioner Voss stated that there will be I\ore and more projects
as time goes on and it is a full time position. He stated that if it
1s done on a contract basis, it seems that the cost would be more than
if the County used their own employee.
Co..issioner Voss I\oved, .econded by co..issioner Goodnight and
carried 4/1, (Co..issioner Bollan4 opposed) that the perl\anent position
entitled MSTU Acquisition Agent be approved.
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UP~TI or 201 FACILITIES ,LAM roR COLLIER COUNTY 8Y BOLE, MOVTES ,
ASSOCIATES IMC. MOT TO EXCEED $130 000 - AUTHORIZED
Utilities Administrator Crandall stated that this is in accordance
with a meeting that he had in Tallahassee a few months ago, adding that
there will be grant lIIoney available for sewer construction. He stated
that he met with the Secretary of DER and received a good indication
that if the County gets an approved 201 Plan on the 1986 list and then
on the 1987 list, the County would have a good chance of being eligible
for some of the $82 million that is anticipated to be available for
grant funds. He stated that the amount of money that he is asking to
be spent would be more than compensated if the County received a grant.
He noted that he would be asking for participation from the State of
about $32 mi1l'ion in projects. He said that the East Naples area is
one of the major projects that he is looking at.
Commissioner Holland stated that he Is in doubt as to whether
there is a sewer service area designated by the County and approved by
the State. Mr. Crandall stated that there is not an area that has been
approved by the State.
Commissioner Holland questioned if the City has a sewer service
agreement, to which Mr. Crandall stated that they are eligible for
grant money so he assumes that there is an agreement.
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for Pelican BJY as to which area they w~uld like to be in.
Assistant County Attorney Anderson stated that the County Water-
Sewer District law clearly provides that no water or sewer facilities
can be constructed within the w~ter-sewer district unless they have the
approval of the Board. He noted that the development of pelican BaY
and their special district lies ~ntirely within the boundari~s of the
County Water-Sewer District and it is his office's position that the
City of Naples cannot provide water service to pelican Bay except by
consent of the Board of County Commissioners.
Mr. crandall stated that they have met with pu1ican Bay and the
City of Naples, adding that he cannot stop Pelican Bay from negotiating
with the City, but when they are ready to construct facilities, they
will need the County's perDission.
Commissioner Holland stated that he has serious doubts that the
boundaries of the 201 plan exist, adding that he does not think that it
was approved by the c~unty or the state.
Mr. Crandall stated that DER says that the 201 plan is completed,
but it was never approved by the State and it is 7-1/2 years old. ße
stated that if it is not updated, the County will not be eligible, but
if it is updated and approved by the State, collier County will be
eligible.
County Manager Lusk stated that they met with DER in Tallahassee
and their position was that if Collier county ever wanted state or
Federal money, the 201 plan will have to be updated before they approve
it.
Mr. Tom Taylor, Engineer with Hole, Montes and Associates, stated
that the City of Naples got an approved master plan and applied for a
small cities grant which was approved. He stated that the boundarien
were approved and about a year ago there was an agreement with the
County on the boundaries of an interim sewer service area.
Commissioner Voss indicated that the 201 plan has to be done or
the County is going to fall way behind.
Com~is.ioner Holland stated that it is not financially feasiblo to
put a sewer system in Brookside and yet it is one of the areas that is'
the biggest factor in polluting the Bay.
Commissioner VoSS stated that is exactly why this plan should be
updated, and if it is approved the County could receive some grant
money that would make it feasible to put in a sewer system in
Brookside.
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Assistant CQunty Attorney Anderson stated that on November 11,
1984, there was an addendum to the Water-Sewer Service Agreement
between the City of Naples and the CQunty water-Sewer District which
allowed the City to serve Naples Bath' Tennis, Gulf Gate Shopping
Center, certain parts of Park Shore area, poinciana School and Village,
as well as numerous other areas.
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Mr. Irving Berzon stated that the 201 plan should be updated as it
is outdated but his concern is that it was noted in the newspaper that
the originial plan was not and is not a satisfactory plan and waS not
approved by the State. He stated that he has a copy of the original
plan that was reviewed and accepted-by the State and the EPA and to his
knowledge it was adopted. He stated that the main reason that the
County has nQt been in a favored position during the years from EPA or
DER is because of the conflict that existed in 1978 between the city of
Naples and the recommended plan which did not recommend as a first
alternative for effluent disposal deep well injection which the city of
Naples was very strongly committed to at that time. He noted that he
does not believe that it should cost $130,000 to update the 201 plan as
the master plan for the sewer service areas is underway and virtually
complete.
Mr. Crandall stated that he received word from DER officials in
Tallahassee that to their satisfaction, the 201 plan was not an
approved plan.
Mr. Berzon stated that there was never any question in his mind
that the plan that was adopted and submitted to Tallahassee in MaY,
1978, was an approved plan. He stated that if the plan was approved,
it WQuld make a big difference as to the cost of updating it. He
stated that in 1980, the Board authorized the update of Areas "C" and
"D" portion of the plan and that updated report served as the basis for
the adoption of the system development charges that the County is
charging in Areas -C· and -D- today for sewer.
Mr. Crandall stated that the people in Tallahassee gave him
specific guidelines as to what would be needed before they would
consider it to be eligible for grant money.
Mr. Taylor stated that Staff and PRC prepared the estimate, adding
that in the discussion with DER, it was noted that basically all the
technical portions of the report WQuld have to be redone. He stated
that the only thing that was acceptable was the environmental aspects.
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County Manager Lusk stated that the East Naple. plant will cost
about $6 ~illion and the possible grant money would be 50\, adding that
it WQuld cost $130,000 to try and receive about $3 million. He stated
that he feels that it is worth it and if the County ðoes not get the
money, the plant is going to have to be built and the ultimate cost
will end up in the sewer rates, adding that he feels that it is well
worth the time to update the 201 plan. He stated that the Engineers
could provide the County with a ~ore detailed breakdown if necessary.
Co..lssioner B.... .ove4 that this ..tter be continue4 until a
co_plete report i. receive4 fro. the Engineerin9 firm, DIR, an4 Staff.
Motion died for lack of .econ4.
co..i.sioner Vo.. aove4, .econ4e4 by Co..i.sioner Goodnight .n4
carrie4 un.nl.ouslY, tbat tb. update of the 201 racil1tle. ,l.n for
Collier County be autborize4 a. propo.e4 by 801e, Monte. , Associate.,
in en ..ount not to exceed $130,000.
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ROUTIME BILLS - APPROVED rOR PAYMENT
pursuant to Resolution 81-150 the following checks were issued
through Friday, November 29, 1985, in payment of routine bills:
CHECK DESCRIPTION CHECK NOS. AMOUNT
Vendors
BCC payroll
IU.'U
136181 - 136407
22208 - 22788
$606,121.56
$263,693.14
8UDGET MEelDMmS 86-74/75 - ADOPTED
Co..issioner Bolland .oved, .econde4 by Co..i..ioner Vo.. and
carried unani.ously, that BUdget Aaend.ent. 86-74 an4 86-75 be adopte4.
IU. U5
RICIIARD SJ:IDMORZ UAPPOl11TEÐ TO ISLES or CAPRI FIRE CONTROL DISTRICT
ADVISORY COMMITTEE
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Co..iasioner Bas.e ~ve4, .econde4 by Co..i..loner Vo.. an4
carried un6niaous1y, that Richard Skid.ore be reappointe4 to I.les of
Capri rire Control Di.trict Advisory Co..ittee for a two year tera with
an expiration ðate of Deceaber 31, 1987.
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JUNE SINGER REAPPOINTED TO FOOD ISTABLISBKZNT REVIEW BOARD
Co..i.sioner Bolland aoved, .econ4e4 by Co.-issloner VO.. and
carrle4 unani.ously, that June Singer be reappointe4 to the Fo04
I.tabll.haent Review Board for a two year term with an expiration date
of Dece.bar 31, 1987.
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BID '907 AMARDED TO BIGBMAY 3PECIALTY CONTRACTORS, IMC. IN AMOUNT or
$24,470.50 FOR POINCIANA SCBOOL ZONE GUARDRAIL IMPROVEMENTS AND STArr
DIR&CTED TO LOOK llITO S.Al'ETY IMPROVEMØTS rOR CHILDREII AT THE AIRPORT
ROAD AND ESTEY AVENUE CROSSING
Legal notice having been pub1isheð in the Naples Daily News on
October 16, 1985, as evidenced by Affidavit of publication filed with
the Clerk, bids were receh",d for Bid '907 for poinciana School zone
guardrail improvements until 2:'0 P.M. November 6, 1985.
Commissioner Holland stated that he would like to commend Staff
and Mr. Kuck for their work on the project, adding that he has been
interested in it for the past three years. He stated that there are
many areas that are in need of some type of protection for school
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children, adding that there i. one area that has been brought to his
attention in the last several w.eks. He stated that he believes that a
child was hit at the intersection of Estey Avenue and Airport Road and
h. would like the approval of the Commission to look into what improve-
.ents could be made in that area that are affordable by the County for
the safety of the children.
C~i..ioner Bolland ~veð, .econ4e4 by Co.-i.sioner Voss an4
carrie4 unani.ously, that Bid '901 for poinciana School Zone Guardrail
I.prov..ents be awarded to Bi9hvay Specialty Contractors, Inc. in the
aaount of $24,410.50 and that Staff be in.tructed to inve.tigate
.etbod. of i.proving the ..fety for cbildren at the corner of Estey
Avenue an4 Airport Road.
..... Co..i..ioner Voss aove4, ..conde4 by Co.-i.sioner Bolland
and carried unani.ous1Y, that the following it... under
tbe Consent Agenda be approv.4 an4/or adopteds .....
Ite. 118
CONTRACT FOR PROFESSIOKAL LAKD SURVEYING SERVICES rROM BOLE, MONTES, ,
ASSOC. rOR BIGHWAY LIGHT POLE EASEMENTS, PINE RIDGE RD., JCT. U.S. 41
TO JCT. GOODLETTE-FRAN~ ROAD, C.R. 851, IN AMOUNT or $4,000
NJ'l'E: tQCUÐirr Jm RECEIVED IN CLERK 10 BOARD omCE IS OF 12/10/85,
IU. 119
ACCEPTAlCE OF IMFORMATIØI PERTAIMIHG TO THE ACQUISITIOH OF DRAINAGE
EASEMPTS 1M UIIIT MO. 1 MYRTLE COVE ACRES WHICH CONCLUDES EASEMENT
ACQUISITION rOR THIS PROJECT.
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SERVICE AGREZMØTS WITH OCBOPEZ, IMOPLEI, PST MAPLES, AIID BIG
CORKSCREW ISLAND FIRE COMTROL DISTRICTS
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BID '85-911 FOR TEE-SBIRTS FOR PARKS , RECREATIOM AWARDED TO T-SHIRT
EXPRESS IN APPROXIMATI AMOUNT or $3,21a.35.
Legal notice having been published in the Naples Daily News on
November 5, 1985, as evidenced ~y Affidavit 0:1 publication filed with
the Clerk, bids were received for Tee-Shirts for Parks' Recreations
until 2:30 P.M., November 2, 1985.
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BUDGET MØ1)M1JIT ISTABLISBI1IIG THE 1985-86 PRIJlCIPAL AØD IHTERES'1'
PAYMENT OM TB& '1Œ1'.AINOO SEWER AREA -A- BONDS
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ACCEPTAJIC& OF WATER rACILI'1'IES rOR BARCLAY'S CAPRI POIMT PHASE I
PROJECT
O.R. Book
1167
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COMlIRKATIOJI or GOVZIUIOR'S APPOIJI'1'MØ1' or ERNEST M.. rREZMAJI '1'0 '1'BB
COLLIER COUNTY HOUSING AUTHORITY
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CERTIFICATES or CORRECTION TO THE TAX ROLL
1985
)los. 31-60
Dateð 11/7-11/19/85
Tangible per.onal pro~rty
cate4 11/18-11/25/85
)lOS. 1985-47/59
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EXTRA GAIN TIME rOR I)lMATE MO. 32043
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MISCELLANEOUS CORRESPONDEKCE - rILED AND/OR REFERRED
There being no objection, the Chair directed that the following
miscellaneous correspondence be filed and/or referred to the various
departments as indicated below:
1. Letter dated 11/18/85 from Deborah L. White, DER, enclosing
application (File No. 111123279, The Conservancy, Inc.) for a
dredge and fill permit. xc: Vickie MUllins, Dr. proffitt and
filed.
2.
Memorandum dated 11/15/85 from B. J. White, DNR, advising that a
Land Acquisition Selection Committee meeting is scheduled for
11/25/85. xc: Vickie Mullins, Dr. proffitt and filed.
Letter received 11/19/85 from Kalvin Nicholas, M.D., advising of
change of address. xc: Mr. Co1ding, Mr. Carlton and filed.
Notice received 11/20/85 from Land and Water Adjudicatory
Commission re informal conference regarding Development Order 85-4
and Ordinance 85-6, parklands. xc: Pam Brangaccio, Vickie
Mullins and filed.
3.
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s. Minutes from City of Naples - 11/06/85; Minutes from Golden Gate
Community Center - 7/30/85, 08/27/85 and 09/24/85 - Filed.
6. Petition dated 11/11/85 from taxpayers of Collier County opposing
a zoning change from agriculture to PUD on the proposed River
Reach development. xc: Pam 8rangaccio, Vickie Mullins and filed.
7. Public Service Commission 11/21/85 Interim Order Granting Rate
In~rease ref Limited Proceeding Regarding Recovery of Regulatory
A&aessment Fees in Collier County, Florida. xc: Don Lusk, Tom
Crandall, Druce Anderson and filed.
.___. Rec.S.: 11140 A.M. - Reconvened: 1130 P.M. .--.-
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NEGOTIATIOM TEAM DIRECTED TO PROCEED WITS RESOORCE RECOVERY PROJECT AS
DEFINED BY TBI PROPOSAL or SBAWMUT/WESTINGHOUSE
Assistant County Manager Dorril1 stated that several waeks ago, a
Resource Recovery Negotiating Committee was appointed and in addition
to himself, County Attorney Saunders, County Manager Lusk, Financial
Advisor Fischer, and Dr. Stokes who served as Technical Advisor, they
were supported by special counsel Gunster, Yoakly, Criser and Stewart
of Palm Beach as well as various Staff members from the Solid Waste
Department. He said that they met with both of the vendors during the
past month.
He stated that the purpose of the meeting this date is for the
committeo to identify a single vendor .s a result of this process which
will hopefully result in the County continuing to move toward the end
of the year in hopes of an escrow financing arrangement and an executed
service delivery contract. He noted that the emphasis on the report is
to identify and compare the contract offers between the two firms, to
spell out the sequence of events with critical dates for the remainder
of calendar year 1985, and to explain the various events that could
affect the calendar for the remainder of this year and finally, to
identify the process for proceeding from this point forward. He stated
that negotiations were opened by requesting that both of the vendors
submit draft contracts and after having done so, the special counsel
reviewed both of the contracts to determine the one that was most
favorable in terms of the structure and organization. He stated that
at that point, it was rewritten by Gunster, Yoakly, Criser and Stewart
in the hope of putting more emphasis on County priorities and perhaps
have a little more leverage in the County's favor.
Mr. Dorri11 noted that the tipping fee analysis that has been
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discussed and is in his report is for the first and fifth years because
it is general consensus that those are probably the most important and
to look any further beyond that is a little difficult. He stat,d that
the tipping fees for the first year are $21.13 for Dravo and $21.85 for
Shawmut/westinghouse and in the fifth year it is $15.64 for Dravo and
$15.84 for Shawmut/Westinghouse. H~ noted that the first year is being
identified as 1989. He indicated that this represents an approximate
increase of about 22\ over the estimated 1989 tipping fee if n~thing
was done other than continue to landfill. He stated that based on 5\
inflation, it is estimated that th, tipping fee at the landfill would
be around $18-20. He stated that added to the resource recovery fee is
an additional $10.00 for on-going solid waste enterprise fund expenses,
which includes both operations and the County's capital commitments if
a resource recovery plant is going to be built, which includes an
accesS road, a waterline, wastewater treatment obligations, and the
installation of the power transmission lines and interconnect with the
plant itself. He stated that if the first year's cost of $21.00 is
added to that the $3.00 for County capital cost and $5-7 for on-going
operational cost, the anticipated fee is about $30-32 in the first year
for either one of the two firms. He noted that to the average resi-
dential customer that currently receives a monthly bill of $8.00 a
month, the expected increase to the monthly residential bill is
estimated to be about $2.50-3.00 for a total of $11.00 a month for the
average residential customer in the greater Naples area. He stbted
that assumption, when discussing any of the tipping fee arrangements,
is critical in terms of understanding what it is that he is talking
about, adding that Exhibit ·8- of his report shows all the various
assumptions. He indicated that the Exhibit -C· shows the various
environmental considerations and the actual guarantees that were
reached with both vendors as a resul~ of the negotiating process, and
that the quarantees for the most part are similar with only minor
exceptions.
Mr. Corril1 noted that whi1e the Committee recognizes that the
vendors cannot predict the future events concerning operating capacity
or performance or what the actual environmental characteristics of the
plant may be, there are a list of general feelings on the part of the
Committee related to environmental and risk-sharing characteristics
which he indicated he would read as part of the record. He noted that
the feelings are that the Committee is of the opinion that neither
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vendor has an existing facility compl.ted alth?ugh both vendors have
executed contracts in the past 12 to lS months; both project
technologies appear sound in terms of today'. Anvironmental and general
performance characteristics that they are aware of, but it is
recognized that the history of refuse drive fuel in this country has
not been as successful as mass burn, both vendors, due to the large
corporate nature of design, construct type entities that they are,
appear to possess the ablity to design, construct and operate their
separate proposed facilities; that the project site is in a very
favorable location with neither space nor proximity concerns for the
surrounding communities and that the construction and start up
schedules appear reasonable and the· approximate lives of the plants
will well meet the 20 year service agreements.
Continuing, Mr. Dorri11 stated that a decision is needed this date
or the project will be impossible to proceed within a timely fashion in
order to meet the tax requirements. He reported that there are a
series of conditions that have to be accomplished in order for the
contract to be valid and escrow funds converted to permanent financing.
He noted that paramount to this process is the completion of a
favorable electricity sales agreement and some other items that have
been identified as full perlllitting requirements having been met, bond
validation, land lease executions, letter of credit considera-
tions, and others. He stated that public sentiment is the most
i~ortant item this date and while it is recognized that over the
course of the last two years there has been no fewer than 20 public
hearings and presentations, ~isconception may still exist. He stated
that the ultimate cost of the facility will be the burden of either the
user or the taxpayers of Collier County. He noted that the need to
continue to s~rive for both a special Act of the legislature for solid
waste flow control and a mandatory collection ordinance will have to be
considered in order that the County can be assured that the guarantees
to the vendor related to flow control and minimum waste tonage can be
met. He indicated that if the project continues, the County will have
on-going responsibilities even though it is a privatization type
venture and the County will at some point need a Project Manager whose
primary responsibility will be to oversee the project from the County's
perspective. He noted that in summary the analysis has been quite
thorough and has involved many hours of work and he would like to thank
everyone that has contributed toward this, adding that the recommenda-
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tion in a majority opinion of the Committee was 3 to 1 with one
abstention that the negotiation team be authorized to proceed with the
project with the proposal that had been identified by the team of
Sh aWlllu t/W. st i nghouse.
County Manager Lusk stated that he would like the Commission to
realize that a contract is not going to be signed this date, adding
that this is to select a vend~r and the contract is still in the
future. He stated that his vote was the -no· when the committee voted
and he would like to explain why. He stated that he is not voting
against res~urce recovery, he simplY has a fear that the Commission
will sign a contract and three years from now a plant will be opened up
with a tipping fee in the $50 range. He stated that he feels that this
would be a mistake because if the County is paying $15.00 a ton n~W and
it goes that high, the C~unty WQuld be better off staying in landfill.
He stated that he has talk.d with different people since he voted
yesterday and he feels that within the next few weeks certain
guarantees can be looked at to be included in the contract. He stated
that it is very important that if a vendor is selected this date, that
the County Att~rney be instructed to look for some of the guarantees to
keep the tipping fee within a reas~nab1e range. He noted that there
are certain variables that can change the tipping fee, adding that the
three variables that need to be lo~ked at is the interest rate thD
project may be financed at, inflation, and also the electrical sales.
He stated that if the tipping fees are not what the County would like
then there should be an option that the County can pullout of the
contract at no cost to the County. He stated that if he knew these
things were going to be put in the contract, he would support the
concept of resource recovery fully.
County Attorney Saunders stated that both Dravo and ShaWlllut/
Westinghouse have exhibited a great interest in doing this project for
Collier County, adding that he thanks both vendors. He stated that it
was difficult to narrow this done to one vendor because of the
willingness of both vendors to cooperate with the County. He reported
that it is his estimation that ~he contract draft that the C~unty has
with Shawmut/Westinghouse is superior to the one that was worked out
with Dravo as far as the County's interest and the Company's interest.
H. stated that there are still some items that need to be resolved like
the ones that were mentioned by C~unty Manager Lusk.
Mr. Dave Fischer, Financial Advisor, stated that he wanted to
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discuss the tipping fees a little because it gives the relationship of
what it is going to cost the County and it gives an idea of how this
project looks against other projects of similar size in the state of
Florida and throughout the Nation. He stated that he would also like
to cov~r privatization, adding that one of the reasons that the project
was accelerated was becau1e of actions in the national level of
legislation which could curtail the advantage of privatization of
resource recovery, adding that this would take place with the loss of
investment tax credit and also the loss of accelerated depreciation.
He indicated that this project would not be as advantageouS for
privatization after December 31, 1985, if the new laws go through. He
stated that he also wants to cover the guarantees and the risks
involved, adding that he wants to show that the vendor is at risk and
there are certain economic factors that could take place where the
vendor may not have a profit at all and could have a sizeable loss and
he assumes those risks. He noted that the tipping fees become
sensitive to interest rates and electric rates, which is why he
prepared a sensitivity chart. He referred to the chart and gave some
different examples. He stated that in the escrow bond issue a variable
rate bond will be used which will be a much lower rate. He stated that
if the County chose to go with a fixed rate coupon, the interest rate
would be higher, adding that he prepared his sensitivity chart bas~d on
an example of 9-1/2'. He indicated that by going with a fixed r~te
coupon the tipping fees would increase between $6.50-$8.75. He noted
that if the payment that the power company makes to the project is a
penny less, which is a sensitivity factor to electric revenues, it
would increase the tipping fee again. He noted that with both these
factors added together, the tipping fees would be approximately $11-13
higher, which would mean instead of the tipping fee running between
$21-$22 in 1989, they would be between $33-$37. He stated that these
figures are indicated to show what might happen and it could happen
with the financing if the type of financing was changed from variable
to fixed rate. He stated that even with the sensitivity figures, these
rates are considered low when compared with other projects. He stated
that if the law changes and the County decided to do nothing for the
time being, and then decided to go with a public facility, it would
cost between $6.50-10.00 a ton difference which would mean that the
tipping fee would be around $43.00 instead of $33.00 which is directly
in line with what the public facility are paying today. He stated that
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this i~dicates that privatization means that in the case of the private
vendor, he pays for 25\ of the project and Collier Cou~ty benefits by
that. He ~oted that whe~ a system is privately owned, it is guara~teed
to perform at basic levels for the life of the project, adding that if
it is a public facility, vendors come in and put in differe~t parts
which are guara~teed fro~ 48 hours to 30 days. He noted that a plant
that is not privatized has a much shorter life on a lot of its parts.
He stated that with reference to the guarantees and risks involved,
there are two things that the vendor risks, one is the operation and
maintenance cost which could lead to a loss if it is over the vendors
projections; the second risk is electrical output. He reported that
the vendor guarantees a certain electrical output and if for some
reason the plant does not run as efficiently as he thought, he will not
generate the revenues that he felt he would and the County do~s not
guarantee that he will. He stated that these two items could run
against the vendors projections and they are his responsibility and not
the County's.
Hr. Bill Montrone of PaineWebber stated that one of the reasons
that the advantages of privatization is being discussed is that tllere
is a tax law pending in Congress that has an effective date of January
1, 1986, that essentially says that if a plant is not placed in service
by that date, all tax benefits associated with facilities like that
would be lost which essentially elminates any be~efit at all from
privatization at least from a cost standpoint not including risks. He
noted that the House Ways and Means Committee has come out with a draft
bill which has some very liberal transition rules on how projects that
are currently underway get grandfathered in under the new law. He
noted that the current proposal is to allow for any project that has a
signed service agreement and goes to financing before the end of the
year can take advantage of all the old tax benefits which are
essentially the investment tax credit and the accelerated depreciation
schedule. He stated that if the County wishes to go with resource
recovery, there is a need for expediency before the end of the year.
He noted the bond sizing which is do~e is based on four components, the
gauranteed capital cost that the vendor bids; the amount of time and
the guarantees that it will take the plant to be built; an assumed
level of interest; and the level of reserves. He stated that in this
partl ~ular case, the guaranteed construction costs are given by both
vendors, they also bid a guarant~ed construction schedule, an assumed
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level of interest is at 6-1/2\ for funding the capitalized interest
fund, and there is a full year's debt service reserve fund.
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~r. M?ntrone stated that with this information a bond sizing is
arrived at, and in this particular case for privatization, the bid
level of equity that would be coming in is subjected from this which
yields a principle amount that has to be amoritized over the life of
the project which is 20 years in this case. He stated that they
assumed a level amortization of principle and interest so that the
payments would be exactly the same each y~ar which then becomes one of
the major expcnse items that the pr~ject has to cover over the 20 year
period. He stated that added to this is the guaranteed operation and
maintenance price that the vendor has bid for the first year which
escalates according to an agreed upon inde)( which means that a level of
inflation has to be assumed over the period of the project to arrive at
what the operation and maintenance cost would be each year. He stated
that subtracted from that is the guaranteed electrical revenuo stream
based upon the amount of tonnage going through the plant and the number
of kilowatt hours per ton that the vendor has guaranteed to produce
from each ton that they process. He stated that the one assumption
that is made is the energy prices. Hg indicated that these are L~e
three major components in terms of putting together a performer
analysis; the basic enconomics of a resource recovery system; the debt
service plus the operation and maintenance; and minus the energy
credit. He stated that he would consider both of the contracts to be
state-of-the-art in terms of the amount of municipal risk that the
County '~uld have to bear. He noted that the way the projects are
structured is that municipalities provide the site, the waste, and
guarantee the ,waste and take the risk on uncontrollable events like
changes in laws, tax laws up to a certain point, and changes in
environmental law. He stated, that in instances, the negotiating team
has been able to negotiate a good deal of sharing of those risk
particularly on the uncontrollable events and indemnifying against tax
law change. He stated that in terms of the long-term technical
guarantees, they are state-of-the-art, adding that they are
guaranteeing that the plant will process so many tons per year,
generate so many kilowatt hours for each ton that it processes, and
that it will comply with existing environmental law. He reported that
if there is a change in the environmental law that requires a more
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stringent type of technical apparatus, there are provisions '~rked ~ut
in the contract for sharing of risk and how that would be divided
between the company and the vendor. He n~ted that the plant has to
comply with current environmental law. He stated that in terms of
overall cost, b~th vendors were competitive and ~n the lower end of the
range on a national level.
Hr. Fischer stated that both vendors are close on the tipping fee,
adding that it is his feeling that Shawmut/weatingh~use is more
sensitive to interest rates than Dravo and they would produce more
electricity than Drav~ and WQuld therefore, be more sensitive t~ the
penny per kilowatt hour. He stated that the penny per kilowatt hour
WQuld work both ways, noting that shawmut/westinghouse is more
sensitive to more revenues as the kilowatt hours cost m?re~ He noted
that on the financial side, the financial strength of these
corporations become important. He noted that the corp~rate guarantees
have to be str~ng and Shawmut/westingh?use versus Dravo would be
stronger, adding that they are a larger company, they have an A-l
rating on their debt which is strong. He stated that Dravo does not
have a rating on their debt and that is because they do not have
long-term debt. He noted that Shawmut/Westingh~use would be the one
with the -deeper poCket-. He noted that Dravo is a large corporation
and has a large network and has been in business a long time, but
Shawmut/Westinghouse is stronger.
Commissioner Voss questioned what would happen with the tipping
fees at the landfill for construction materials, to which Assistant
County Manager Dorril1 stated that the County would continue to have a
tipping fee at the landfill for landclearing material and rubble that
do not have to be placed in a lined cell and are n?t considered
acceptable at the resource recovery plant. He stated that the tipping
fee would be a reduced fee and would ~e kept by the County.
Hr. Bob KrasowkSi, resident of Naples, voiced his concerns
regarding dioxins in the environment.
Mrs. Charlotte Westman, representing the League of Women Voters
indicated that the League's position is that they are in favor of
res?urce recovery to replace landfill, that they favor a method that
will insure the least environmental impact over the 20 year period
planned, recover and reuse a$ many materials as possible, fiave the
potential to virtually elminiate landfill, protect the interest of the
citizens with a financially strong vendor, and the cost should
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commensurate with the benefits obtained. She stated that the
Commission should proceed at once and not wait any longer.
Mr. Jim McGrath of 650 Banyan Circle stated that he w~uld like to
compliment the Commissioners with regards to proceeding with a resource
recovery plant, but his concern is the fact that the vendors want to
reap the profits while the taxpayers assume the risk. He stated that
this should have been done by a referendum to let the taxpayers decide
if they want a resource recovery plant, as this is not something that
should be rushed into.
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Mrs. Kathleen Ennis, ~e~ber of the Solid Waste Advisory Committee,
stated that for 17 months the Solid Waste Advisory Committee has been
meeting and prior to that the Technical Advisory Committee was meeting,
adding that they have proceeded slowly, steadily, and deliberatelY
regarding the evaluation of resource recovery. She stated that the \.
only rush is a financial rush and has nothing to do with the technical
or environmental aspects of the proposal that is being recommended this
date. She stated that if proceedings are de1aved, it will only cost
more money. She reported that her primary interest has always be~n
from an environmental standpoint. She reported that the tipping fees
can be held down by resource recovery because th~re is no need for
extra fees added on because of continuing landfill costs.
Mr. Jim Flagler of 3403 Boca ciega Drive stated that he is excited
about a resource recovery plant, but just because tax laws are going to
change, that is no reason to make an $80 million decision. He noted
that the water and air should be protected at all costs and all Federal
and State emission control standards should be met to the letter,
adding that the C~unty must be sure that the permits can be revoked if
such standards are not met.
Mr. George Keller, president of the Collier County Civic
Federation, stated that the landfill is a bad thing and the County
cannot afford to pollute the water. He stated that he is not at ease
with the 420 ton guarantee as Staff indicates that 240 tons are
generated and the County will be penalized for this.
Assistant County Manager Dorrill stated that currently at the
Naples Landfill alone there are 500 tons a day generated. He stated
that about 20\ of anything that goe8 into the landfill is unacceptable
for the purposes of burning, adding that 20\ of 500 tons leaves about
420 tons a day that is acceptable.
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Mr. Keller noted that the public should know that this is not
going to be an inexpensive issue and their monthly bills are going to
be considerably more. He noted that he fee18 that landfill i8 the
worst thing that can be done, adding that he has been very impressed
with what has been done. He stated that he feels that Sha'~ut/
Westinghouse will be very receptive to giving the County a contract
that everyone can live with.
Kr. Glen Thornton, 1261 Trail Terrace Drive, stated that he
believes that this resource recovery is something that is definitely
needed, but he is concerned with the safety of people due to the
explosions during the RDF shredding process.
Mr. John Kescl1, representing organized labor, stated ,that
Shawmut/Westinghouse may have more capital and is larger, but it also
has moro bond obligations, noting that this is not a gOQd reason to
select a company. He stated that the taxpayers are going to pay one
way or the other and he would suggest that the County wait until
Shdwmut/Westinghouse comes up with a feasible tipping fee.
Mr. Tony Licata, representing Dravo, stated that he would like to
thank eVfryone involved for the cooperation and courtesy that Dravo
Corporation has received throughout the entire cycle. He stated that
he is disappointed that they were not recommended as the number one
firm, but he would like to commit to the Commission that the contract
documents that were prepared are still valid until December 31, 1985,
if the County should decide in their favor at a later date. He noted
that if the contract with ShaW1'ut/Westinghouse does not work out in the
future, they will still be pleased to come back and work with the
County.
Commissioner Voss stated that he received a letter from Dr.
Polkowski, the Health Department Director, which indicates that she
contacted several individuals in the EPA and the CBC to inquire about
dioxin emissions associated with waste incineration and was told that
the foll?wing ingredients lead to' a safe operating plant, have a well
designed plant with criteria for what is entering the plant, have a
well trained staff who know what they are doingJ have a good monitoring
system in place with backup procedures. He stated that Dr. Reyna
Kimbro, toxicologist at the Center for Diseaue Control indicated to Dr.
Polkowski that there should be no health c?ncerns with a well operated
pl ant.
Mr. George Varnadoe, Attorney representing Shawmut/Westinghouse,
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stated that with reference to Commissioner Holland and County Manager
Lusk'S concerns, he noted that in the contract, there is a provision
that if the interest rate exceeds 7-1/2\, the County does not have to
bring thv bonds out of escrow. He noted that there will be a closing
prior to December 31, 1985, to put the bonds into escrow and then there
is another closing at a later date to bring the bonds out of escrow.
He noted that before the second closing there will be an electric sales
contract in place. Be stated that there is a general protection in the
contract as to the electric sales price and they would be willing to
have a cap on that as far as it going down, and if it goes beyond a.
certain level, they would agree that the County would not have to bring ~.
the bonds out of escrow which thus would guarantee as to a tipping fee.
Commissioner Holland questioned when these concerns would be
answered, to which County Manager Lusk stated that he feels that the
contract that the Commission will be asked to sign in the next few
weeks should address those concerns. He noted that the guarantees need
to be in the contract.
Commissioner Holland questioned what the difference would be after
January 1, 1986, if the law is changed as proposed, to which Mr.
Fischer stated that if the laws change after January 1, 1986, and it is
no longer advantageouS to have a private facility, the increase in the
tipping fee could range anywhere between 22-30\ upward, adding that
would mean $7-10 a ton more.
Commissioner Holland questioned if Mr. Fischer had any problems
with the guarantees that County Kanager Lusk was concerned about, to
which Mr. Fischer stated that he does not have any problem with the
guarantees, but this is something that will be negotiated, adding that
they are negotiating all the time to get the best deal possible and he
will certainly take this into consideration when negotiating.
Commissioner Holland questioned who would pay for the fees up to
this point, if for some reason this contract did not go through?
Mr. Fischer stated that ~s far as people involved in the bond
issue, issuance cost, there would be very little in the way of fees,
adding that everybodY waived their fees until the point that the bonds
actually come out of escrow and there actually is a deal. He stated
that this would be when all the permits are in line and the validation
of the bonds, and if this does not happen within 6 or 9 months from noW
and there is no deal, the bond people do not get paid. He noted that
there are costs like the HDR feasibility study and some attorneys that
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worked with the contract negotiations.
County Attorney Saunders stated that as far as the risk of the
cost of issuance, Westinghouse has agreed to assume the cost of
issuance for those costs that cannot be deferred, like the cost of
printing, marketing, etc. if the project did not go forward. He noted
that as far as the contract is written at this point, there are certain
conditions precedent to the County proceeding, adding that one is that
there be an electric sales agreement and another is a 7-1/2\ cap on
interest rates. He stated that another is a maximum tipping fee,
adding that if on the date, that the County is ready to break escrow
and those conditions precedent are met, then escrow will be broken and
the project will go forward. He stated that he needs to work with
westinghouse to work in some caps on those three potential escalators.
Mr. Dave Gayser of Shawmut/Westinghouse stated that he would be
happy to work with the County to put those items together in a way that
the protection that can indeed be afforded the County in these areas is
in fact provided in those contracts. He stated that there are ways
that he can provide for an interest rate swap that would allow for a
cap to be put on even low floaterS which are not fixed rate coupon
bonds at 9\, in fact, they would be much closer to the rates that are
being quoted for the low floaters. He noted that this is one of the
areas that can be within the contract. He noted that he will work with
the negotiating committee to get these items in place without an
exhorbitant tipping fee.
Commissioner Hasse questioned what type of protection the County
has if the plant fails, to which Mr. Gayser stated that the best
assurance is that there is a plant in Baltimore that is operating doing
the exact thing at appro)(imatelY the same rate and has been for ten
years and that plant and the people that operate it are part of the
team. He stated that the assurance that he has in making the
guarantees with respect to performance 1s that he has personally been
to these plants and seen them operate. He stated, with respect to the
County's protection, westinghouse will be contractually obligated to
perform certain things and if they cannot perform those things, they
are fixed or liquidated damages which are provided for, whereby the
County is not left holding a pl~nt that does not operate. He stated
that he is providing guarantees that say when Shawmut/Westinqhouse is
through, the plant wii. .ork, and guarantees that say if there is more
waste diverted or more ash produced than what is guaranteed in tha
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contract, shawmut/Westingh~use will pay the c~unty for that so that in
all of the instances ~f perfor~ance including that of scheduling
performance and the actual technical performance of completion of the
plant, they are warranting it to the County and standing behind it to
the full extent of the indebtedness.
In answer to Commissioner Hasse, Mr. Gayser stated that the time
period is 24 months from the time of permit until the time of
commencement or operation.
Commissioner Voss questioned what happens to the RDF if the plant
is down for scheduled maintenance, to which Mr. Gayser stated that
there are two trains of boilers, so· they would continue to burn in one
train of that, adding that in terms of the municipal solid waste coming
in, they have provided the capability to pelletize that and they would
continue to keep taking the municipal solid waste even if both of the
boiler trains are down, pelletizing it and storing it for fuel for
later use.
Commissioner Voss stated that various people in this county have
done a fine job, and he concurs with their recommendation.
Commissioner Goodnight stated that she would like to thank
everyone that has been involved, adding that she feels very adequate in
making the decision that she has to make this date. She stated that
the information that has been presented has really helped her in ~aking
her decision.
Commissioner pistor stated that he feels that it is unfortunate
that there are some people that think there is a possibility of
contaminates being created, adding that the amount of contaminates
under the contract that are expected to be emitted from this plant are
insignificant., lid stated that in making a do!dsion this date will not
in anyway be harmful to the people of Collier County, adding that it
will be beneficial in many ways. He stated that this is possibly a
momentus occasion in the life of Collier County.
In answer to Commissioner Hasse, County Attorney Saunders stated
that after the County Commission and the selected vendor execute a
contract and the escrow closing has taken place, there are certain
conditions precedent that must be accomplished prior to actually
breaking ground on the project. Hø stated that those are not the types
of conditions precedent which one can simply say that they do not want
to do resource recovery, so the electric sales agreement will not be
negotiated or the environmental permit will not be obtained. He noted
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that the County will be under an obligation to use its best efforts to
successfUllY accomplish all conditions precedent and if the County
attempts to use them as an eXCuse, the County would be subject to
liability and breach of contract. He stated that the real point of
commitment is when the service agreement is executed and'the escrow
closing has taken place this year.
Coamlssioner Goodn19ht .oved, seconded by Commissioner Voss and
carried unani.ously, that the We90tiatlon '1'ea. be directed to procee4
with the Resource Recovery project a. 4efined by tr.e proposal of
shawaut-we.tinghouse.
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There being no further business for the Good o( the County, the
meeting was adjourned by Order of the Chair - Time: 3:30 P.M.
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